My plan to keep Rebel News alive — with your help
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Nearly 1 million people have been laid off across Canada in the past week, and Trudeau promises to pay off the rest. Who's right and who's wrong in that situation? I talk to James Dellingpole about that, and tell you about a campaign we're running called Help Rebel News.
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Hello, my rebels. Today, I interview my old friend James Dellingpole from the United Kingdom talking
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about how they're dealing with the coronavirus. I show a very interesting video of how someone on
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the street of London is putting up that police do not cross style tape on the door of a chicken shop
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while the store is still open. He's trying to shut them down. It raises some interesting questions.
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Who's right in that situation? I talked to James about that. And I also tell you about a campaign
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we have called Help Rebel News. And look, we're just trying to get through this economy like everyone
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else. I think our tiny team of 16 people, we've got about five on air talent and 10 people behind the
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scenes. We got to get through this economic slowdown because we've got to hold Trudeau to account.
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And I've got a bit of a plan and it involves your help. So without further ado, here's today's podcast.
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Tonight, hundreds of journalists are being laid off across Canada and Trudeau promises to pay off
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the rest. So what are we going to do here at The Rebel? It's March 25th and this is the Ezra LeVance
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show. Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know? There's 8,500
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customers here and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I have to say to the government
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about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
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Welcome back. It's very interesting news in this country. Very sad news. Very scary news. Nearly 1
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million people have been laid off in the last week. That's a number that's so staggeringly large. It's
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larger even than the 1920 stock market crash. Nothing like this before. The unemployment rate in this
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country literally doubled in a week and we're nowhere near done yet. I see WestJet laying off
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most of its staff here. Canada will do the same. That's just two companies. Imagine everyone else
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in the travel industry, hotels, bars, restaurants, and then the snowball effect. Those people will have
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trouble making their rents or mortgages and that will put landlords in trouble and the banks and
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everything will spiral. One of the reasons why those newspapers laid off 250 people in the Atlantic
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alone is because no one's buying ads. Just think of how big and bad this will get. Justin Trudeau made
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a very strange announcement. He said his top priority, the first industry he's going to bail out,
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not the oil industry, not the airlines, the first industry, he said the media. Take a listen.
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Right now, it's more important than ever that Canadians have access to the latest news and
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information. To ensure that journalists can continue to do this vital work, our government
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is announcing new measures to support them. Now, why would he do that? Well, he needs to shore up the
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media. He's doing a very poor job of fighting this coronavirus. As I showed you earlier, he actually sent
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our entire stockpile of masks and gloves, 16 tons of it. He just sent it to China for free as foreign
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aid just last month. Instead of ordering more for Canada, he gave it away. He refused to seal off the
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borders until the last minute. He's still accepting flights from foreign countries. He's doing a very
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poor job. And as you can see in this CBC article, he's musing about using your own cell phone to track
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your movements, using the GPS in your phone to track where you are. The greatest surveillance state
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since, well, China does it. No wonder Justin Trudeau wants another media bailout. Because if your boss
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takes 5, 10, 20 million dollars from Justin Trudeau to run your newsroom, there's no way you're going
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to criticize him. So where does that leave us here at Rebel News? Well, we face the same economy as
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everyone else, but we would never take a dime from Justin Trudeau. So how are we going to make it through
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this crisis? So far, everyone on our team is healthy and we're doing okay. We managed to cut some
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expenses, but we've decided to have a small campaign to keep us strong because we believe
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that coverage over the next few months could be the most important journalism we do. Without further
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ado, let me show you a video I released earlier today that lays out our plan to deal with the
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coronavirus here in the office. There's been no cases of it yet, but our measures in advance and how
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we're going to make it through without laying off our journalists. We've set up a new website at
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helprebelnews.com. Take a look at the video I released earlier today. How are you doing during
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the coronavirus crisis? And can I share with you my own personal thoughts as a dad and as the boss of
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Rebel News? But first, how are you? I'm guessing you're healthy. Believe it or not, as I record this,
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the number of people in the whole of Canada who are sick is about 2,000. I know that's growing
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quickly, but that's still only about one in 15,000 people with the sickness and 25 people have died.
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Each of those deaths is a tragedy, but at this point, at least that number is fewer than one in
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a million Canadians. I'm not downplaying it. I'm just saying so far, the bulk of the crisis hasn't
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been measured in lost lives. It's been measured in how the rest of us, how the rest of our lives
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have been changed. Last week alone, 929,000 Canadians lost their jobs. Entire industries
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are teetering on bankruptcy. Think of airlines and hotels as an obvious example. Any place where
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people gather together, theaters, bars and restaurants. And now most Canadian schoolchildren
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are at home, but they really can't go on playdates. They can't go to daycare, so families have to stay
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home to take care of them. I'm guessing the chief feeling you have is stress. Are we going to die
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is one stress, but more and more, are we going to be okay to live to pay the rent or mortgage?
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How can we find a job if the whole country is falling into recession? How are we going to get
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through this? Are we going to go crazy, cooped up in our houses, unable to meet friends and family
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and live normally? This is really a form of house arrest, isn't it? I feel the same way personally
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for myself and for my family. I can only imagine the nightmares and stresses that little kids will have
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now that they've learned about some invisible killer virus. It's so weird to hear young children
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talk and use words like pandemics or coronavirus. I bet it's as stressful as the thought of nuclear
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war was to baby boomers growing up. Unemployment, plus the stress and loneliness of quarantines,
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plus the fear of the virus. And try getting tested, by the way, unless you're a celebrity or a politician,
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you can't. They'll turn you away. Talk about stress. I'm sorry to be so dark, but I believe we are
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going to see a spike in depression and worse. I'm sorry to say it. Can I share my thoughts as the
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president of Rebel News? My first thought was the safety of our staff. We have a dozen loyal workers
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who come in each day to our head office here. I've invited any of them who prefer to work from home
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and about half our team in Toronto has chosen to do so, which is easy enough to do since almost
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all of us work from laptop computers. The rest of the staff here at the office can social distance
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in separate offices here if they like. In terms of guests, we now do that by Skype only in guest
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interviews, and we're no longer sending our reporter to exotic locations. We've put our trips to the U.S.
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and the U.K. on hold, and we've cut back on travel within Canada too. To stay in touch with each other
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as a team, both to make sure we're working well together and just to say hi, we now have two daily
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group calls on Skype with everybody. One at 10 a.m. to get the day really going, and one at 5 p.m. to
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see how things went. We chime in about anything, and I limit myself to one dumb joke per meeting.
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So I think we're okay health-wise here. Other than David Menzies, I'm by far the oldest guy in the
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office. So everyone here is pretty much healthy young folks who are at low risk anyways. But how
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are we going to do financially? 929,000 Canadians lost their jobs last week. It's almost a million.
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That's almost one in 10 families in this whole country. Maybe you're one of them. Unemployment
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just doubled from 5% to 10% in one week. I hate to say it, but I think much more is to come.
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I think we're going to have a recession, and I think unemployment is going to hit 20% for sure,
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maybe 30%. That's Great Depression levels. I don't want that to happen, but I think
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we were heading into a recession already, especially with all the railroad blockades and Trudeau
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canceling all the oil sands projects and pipelines. And now this. I can't even believe it. Incredibly,
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just last week, Justin Trudeau made it easier for low-wage foreign workers to come to Canada. He made
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it easier for foreign workers to come and compete for jobs. Why would he do that? I don't understand.
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So I'm worried about the world, and I'm worried about our country, and I'm worried about you because
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I'm human, and because unlike the CBC state broadcaster, we depend on our viewers to keep
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us strong. So if our viewers are hurting, that will affect us directly. Parliament is giving itself
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a raise next week. Did you know that? What, your local Conservative MP didn't tell you? So they'll be
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fine in Parliament, and the CBC will be fine. And frankly, supporting Rebel News, although I think
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it's important to the country, it's obviously not as important as paying your rent and groceries and gas
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money. So I'm afraid there will be many families who make the choice to cut discretionary spending, like us.
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Makes sense, family first. But I also know that what we're doing, providing independent journalism,
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telling the other side of the story, as our motto says, is more important now than ever. And that's what we do.
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Even in the past week, groundbreaking stuff. We've gone to the airports and asked people flying into Canada from China
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and other countries what sort of screening they're getting. And we reported the truth, that they're not being screened
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at all. And in fact, many people from other countries landing in Canada are shocked at how little screening is being
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done. Still, Trudeau's government was lying when they said there was enhanced screening. There still isn't. We proved it.
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Our journalism. And we went back to Roxham Road again and again and again to prove the same thing,
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that illegal migrants were being allowed to walk right in with no health screening.
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In fact, it was only after Kian Bexty recorded this exclusive footage that the RCMP finally closed the border.
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But what about now? I think it's more important than ever.
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What civil liberties is Trudeau going to try to crush in the months ahead? Will he try and short circuit
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parliament and take more powers to himself? He's hinting at it. And so is his cabinet.
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Why would your government think it's a good idea to propose a bill to broadly tax and spend without
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parliamentary approval until December 2021? Many opposition members say they can't support this
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overreach. Why would you bring politics into a pandemic?
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We recognize that this pandemic is moving extremely quickly and it is an exceptional situation that
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requires extreme flexibility and rapidity of response by governments to be able to help
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Canadians and react to a situation that we've seen is moving quickly every single day.
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Government journalists from the CBC state broadcaster are practically begging him to put the country under
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Is there a use of the telecom company data to do surveillance of those who should be isolated?
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Are you doing this? And would it be worth violating people's privacy rights in this type of situation?
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Answer? We realize that we are in a situation where the behaviors and the choices that we need to make
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as a government will be different than what we would do in a normal situation, normal times.
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If we here at Rebel News are not reporting the other side of the story, who will?
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Or just reviewing day-to-day decisions of Trudeau, like his bizarre decision to send Canada's stockpile
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of emergency face masks, 16 tons of protective gear. He sent it to China just last month for free.
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Trudeau just sent all our protective equipment to China, so now our own nurses don't have protective gear.
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It makes me want to fight to tell the other side of the story.
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Trudeau has banned us from sending journalists to cover his daily briefings on the virus.
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That's outrageous. A federal court has already told him that's illegal.
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But he's obviously irritated that he can't control us like he controls the CBC.
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But look, we don't need to attend government press conferences to cover the news.
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We go to where the news is, and we're often the only ones doing so.
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David Menzies told me there wasn't a single other reporter at Roxham Road that day he was there.
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So my point is, I want to keep Rebel News strong.
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I want our whole team in the battlefield covering stories, doing reports on the scene where possible,
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But I'm worried that our viewer base, like all of Canada, is going to be decimated by the coronavirus recession.
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We were going to hire a U.S. correspondent to help cover the election down there.
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We've managed to reduce some of our existing monthly costs by about $7,000 a month.
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But there really wasn't a lot of fat to cut in the first place.
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Trouble is, we've also lost important revenue streams.
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For example, our fundraising cruise that was scheduled for this summer, that was canceled, obviously.
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We used to have events across the country that helped make money for us.
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I need to raise at least $70,000 to make sure we can keep our staff going full tilt.
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That's how much I think we're going to lose in terms of revenues from viewers in the next 90 days.
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If your family is in trouble, obviously take care of them first.
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If you have someone you need to support, support them.
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But if you're lucky enough to be in good shape, please consider helping us.
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We've set up a crowdfunding website at helprebelnews.com.
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If you can chip in $5 or $500, I'd sure appreciate it.
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You know, just this afternoon, the biggest media company in Atlantic Canada, it's called Saltwire,
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announced that it's shutting down all of its weekly newspapers, laying off 40% of its staff.
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They're only going to publish four daily newspapers for the whole region.
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What's so gross is that they've received literally millions of dollars from Trudeau's media bailout.
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However, I don't want to lay off 40% of our people like Saltwire just did.
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Everyone on the team, me and our other reporters, all our video editors, our website editors,
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please help me keep our little army of 16 people, 12 here in the office, four around the country,
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Most of our people do behind-the-scenes work that's important.
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But research, access to information requests, editing videos, publishing the website.
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Even though they shut down all their local TV broadcasts this past week,
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All the newspapers are on Trudeau's bailout plan now, too.
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We don't need any more submissive journalists right now.
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We need fighting journalists who care about freedom.
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I hate the fact that Trudeau has banned Kian Bextie and David Menzies from his press conferences,
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but I also know it's because they're the only two journalists he knows he can't control.
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I promise I'll use the money to keep David and Kian and Sheila and our whole behind-the-scenes team going full tilt.
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If you give us the tools, we'll finish the job.
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So when Boris Johnson says something, he means it.
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On the one hand, the government said, lock everything down.
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And he wanted to be a good, law-abiding citizen in this panicky time.
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On the other hand, inside are people making food.
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Some people can't eat at home, don't have food at home.
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And even if it isn't, surely the people in that restaurant, working there, need to earn a living.
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Well, let me read to you from an outstanding column in Breitbart.com from their UK division.
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This contains the control freaks, the authoritarians, the snitches, the panickers, the killjoys,
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the trusty experts, the curtain twitchers, the leftists, and the catastrophists.
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This contains the liberty lovers, the libertines, the grand strategists, the rebels, the skeptics,
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the mavericks, the contrarians, the misfits, the deplorables.
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And the author is our friend James Dellingpoyle, who joins us now via Skype from North Hamptonshire.
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It was at one of Tommy Robinson's trials that I saw you last.
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Isn't it weird how much the world has changed since we last saw each other?
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I mean, it feels unreal, this world we used to live in, where you could actually congregate
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in large numbers and wander around the streets without the police watching you and monitoring
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your moves in case you were breaking the new regulations.
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Yeah, and in Canada, and I'm sure it's the case in the UK because you're further down
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the road to the surveillance state than we are, Justin Trudeau is now talking about using
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cell phones to track people's movements, using the GPS on your phones to track you.
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I'm absolutely sure they do that in the UK, but I'm also sure that the UK has not only
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people who willfully choose to defy the government, but masses of ungovernable people, particularly
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I worry very much that the cure for this problem is going to be far worse than the disease.
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I think that at the end of this, we're going to find that we stopped coronavirus, but in
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And I'm so glad that President Trump gets this.
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I mean, imagine if we had a leader of the free world.
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Imagine if we had a Hillary or a Bernie or somebody like some crazed globalist who believes
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At least Trump has got the right instincts that he wants to get back to business, to normal
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I think for too many people, and I suspect that your President Bieber is very much one
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of them, this will be the perfect opportunity to advance bigger government.
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The things that we rely on big government for, maintain the borders, keep out foreign
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forces, including foreign viruses, protect law and order.
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These are the things big government has failed us on.
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And I just saw news from New York City that nearly 3,000 New York City police have called
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Now, some of them might not actually have it, but whether or not they have it, they're calling
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At what point does the government itself cease to be enforcing its own orders?
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I mean, at what point do they cease to protect us from looters or actual real danger?
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I saw that news about the NYPD and it made me scared.
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Yeah, I think we have good reason to be worried about this.
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I mean, look, I don't think any government anywhere in the world is in an enviable position
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right now, because you've given a very good example of what's going on.
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I had the coronavirus last month and it was, you know, unpleasant.
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But on the other hand, it made me feel quite rotten and irritable for a fortnight.
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You know, it definitely reduces your functionality.
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I think in most cases, if you're healthy, it's not going to do much worse than that.
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But we've got government guidelines that if you show, well, I mean, before the complete
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lockdown, if you had symptoms, then you were urged to self-isolate, which seems sensible
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on the one hand, because it stops people going out, spreading the disease.
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At the same time, if people are self-isolating and say you've got two cops, three cops living
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in the same household or a bunch of medics sharing digs together, which is which is highly
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likely, then what you have is if one person has got the illness, everyone else in the
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house gets gets shut out of the out of out of work.
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You have a recipe for a kind of civil emergency over and above what's happening to the in the
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I look at the news out of Italy, which I think is more reliable than the news out of China
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But I see a glimmer of hope that young people are almost completely spared.
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And I see there a possibility to maybe have a twofold strategy, take a very risk averse,
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extreme approach to protect and help senior citizens who are in danger, but let young people
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I note that in Taiwan, they have not canceled school.
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I just have to think that the total shutdown of society that we saw in that little clip
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of a man saying, you've got to shut down this chicken shop, Boris Johnson said, and the
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I can see both sides of that, but you can't shut down everything for a while.
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Yeah, well, already we're starting to see the signs of really dire economic consequences
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One of my Twitter friends, an old university friend, actually, who was at Balliol College,
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Oxford, with Boris Johnson, our prime minister, he lives in Kenya.
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And he pointed out that in Kenya, the people who grow the flowers for the Dutch flower markets
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I understand that the supply chain has been disrupted for all the foods that are grown
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under glass, under plastic in the Netherlands and Spain, which feed Britain.
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It's all very well contracting out these decisions to the so-called medical experts.
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And I don't think there is such a thing as a single medical expert who has access to all
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I mean, there are differing views even among the experts.
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But I also think it's dangerous and irresponsible to give carte blanche to scientists to decide
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how we deal with this pandemic when there are other issues at stake.
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If people are going to die in civil unrest, if people are going to starve, which I think
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is likely particularly in the developing world, then these are deaths and risks we ought to
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consider alongside the issue of how dangerous this disease is and how many people it's going
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At the moment, it seems to me that we are destroying the world in order to save the lives of a few
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people who are probably going to die quite soon anyway because they've got various comorbidities.
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You know, it's not just coronavirus itself that kills you.
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It's the combination of coronavirus and your underlying health conditions and or your age.
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Yeah, that's what seems to be coming out of Italy.
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One of the reasons their numbers are so much higher is they report when it's coronavirus
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and something else as opposed to just coronavirus on its own.
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I mean, China, we've seen their premier, Li Ka-xing, Li Ka-xing, sorry, basically say
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Earlier today in my daytime show, I showed video of a hospital in Wuhan refusing to admit
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a coronavirus patient so they didn't have to break their record of no new coronavirus patients.
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So they were literally turning away a man so they could claim with a straight face they don't
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So the premier of China is saying we've got to stop lying about this.
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I've seen reports that the number of cell phone subscribers in China has plunged by millions.
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Now, maybe there's another explanation, but people who died don't use cell phones anymore,
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That scares me, but the idea of another Great Depression scares me too.
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I'm having trouble figuring this one out, and I have instincts on both sides of this.
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I don't want foolish people, like we see videos, like here's a video right here of some idiot
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Here's another video of someone licking, with his tongue, licking a pole in a subway.
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So I want to, like those guys are a clear danger, a typhoid Mary, let's say.
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But on the other hand, I don't want to give Justin Trudeau complete control over my life,
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I want to figure this out, and I know a lot of our viewers do too.
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And frankly, sometimes they look to me for some ideas on this, and I'm still looking for
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Well, Ezra, I think actually, and this is why I'm voting for you as my new president,
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you actually came up with a very good suggestion.
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I think that it's, I think we, a sensible solution is to keep vulnerable groups isolated, even
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I mean, you know, my mum, for example, she's in an at-risk category.
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She can't go out and play golf anymore, and golf is her life.
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You know, she's chipped up in her house, and that's miserable for her.
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And at the same time, I think that we cannot let the global economy collapse, as it is collapsing,
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I mean, we're already reaping a whole whirlwind here.
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I can't imagine how much worse it's going to get.
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And I think one of the ways we can do this is by, OK, on the one hand, protecting the
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But number two, by enabling people who've already had the disease, people like me, who've built
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And we need governments to move swiftly to say, if you have got the antibodies, if you've
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got a degree of immunity, I know people say, oh, well, you can get reinfected.
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But if we take that one too seriously, then it is the end of the world.
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I mean, if you get no immunity from having had the disease, then we are in a whole new
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But I think we have to assume that people who've had the coronavirus probably have a
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So I think government's priority should be to get people tested and get them out.
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I do believe that chloroquine is proving effective.
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I know somebody who's been desperate to try and get his his his treatment out.
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It involves zinc, which is a very powerful prophylactic, and it disrupts the the cytokine
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storm, which is what kills you when the the virus tricks your body's immune system into
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attacking healthy tissue and causing you to drown in your own lungs effectively.
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If we can avoid that, if we can protect workers with with with treatments like this as a prophylactic
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and stop people dying, then we are in a completely different situation.
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I think government's ought to be more alive to this rather than the focusing on on the
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vaccine and focusing on the death toll of hospitals.
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You know, I went through the other day statistics again from Italy.
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And the reason I focus on that is because I don't trust Iran.
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And we don't yet have enough data from the UK, Canada or the US in Italy, which has been
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I've had sort of angry lunatics on on Twitter today say.
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Say, you know, if we don't don't stamp on this, it will be like the Spanish flu.
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For one thing, the Spanish flu of 1918 killed predominantly people in their 20s and 30s.
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This is a completely different different kettle of fish.
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I think it would be far worse if it were killing young, productive people.
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Yeah, well, I mean, my point to that is that that allows us instead, I mean, I think the
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I mean, in that little dramatic video I showed at the beginning, there was a guy around 40
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And in reality, probably none of them are in jeopardy, but one of them is clearly in a
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And the guys inside are thinking, am I doing something wrong?
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I thought I was doing the right thing by working for a living.
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So if we could if we could sort things and break this problem down smaller, I say again,
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They ration the masks from the local pharmacies.
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It seems absurd, but that way everyone has a mask.
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If you've had it and you're immune, why shouldn't you be able to go out and about?
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And if we have mass testing, again, sorting, shrinking the problem and focusing on seniors.
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I know what you meant about it would be more devastating if people who are working are
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We still obviously love our parents and grandparents very much.
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Let us focus our intelligence and our wealth and our activities on protecting the vulnerable.
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Get up and guard against power grabs by the Justin Trudeaus and others in this world who
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either want to take money in this panicky time, take power, take away our civil liberties.
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It's interesting that the solution seems to come from Taiwan, which knows the dire threat
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of communist China just a few dozen miles away.
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Yes, I entirely agree with that analysis, Ezra.
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I mean, look, those of us who are sceptical of overweening authority, we still love our parents
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and our elderly relatives as much as anyone on the other side of the argument.
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The difference is that we are not letting that love for our parents blind us to the bigger
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reality, which is that we are destroying Western civilisation for the sake of saving a few people
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It doesn't mean one doesn't regret their deaths.
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It doesn't mean one doesn't get upset by health authorities being temporarily overwhelmed.
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And at the end of it, we want an economy left for us to enjoy and to save more lives.
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I mean, people will die as a result of the resources being misdirected at the moment.
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You know, cancer patients currently can't get treatment in hospitals because all the beds
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You know, there are consequences to this panic.
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I just know that from a mental health point of view, you coop up millions of people in tiny
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urban apartments and condos with no physical exercise, no fresh air, no socialisation.
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You're going to have a whole other series of problems emanating.
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In short order, especially when you add the terror of not being able to pay bills, which
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The fact that you seem to be healthy and recovered is encouraging to me.
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Tell our viewers where they could get more of your content.
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In all modesty, Ezra, I think I probably do just about the best podcast in the world.
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And you can find it on the usual places, on iTunes and on PodBeans.
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I have a site called DellingPollWorld.com, where all my old podcasts are advertised.
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You can read me at Breitbart and The Spectator.
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And I mean, these are interesting times to be a journalist.
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And I'm trying to do my bit to inject a degree of sense into this crazy debate.
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Well, I'm really glad you joined us and shared your views.
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And just looking out your back window there in Northamptonshire, it looks just delightful.
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Hopefully, international travel will resume and I'll be able to pay you a visit in your
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Our friend James Dellingpole, host of the DellingPod podcast.
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And I have to say, I have actually appeared on the podcast one time and I enjoyed the
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On my monologue yesterday, comparing how Trudeau and Trump have handled the Chinese coronavirus
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crisis, Cody writes, our frontline staff, as well as other Canadians, will go without medical
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gear because Trudeau prioritizes China over Canada.
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And to send it to China, that's like someone voluntarily giving their lunch money to a bully.
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You're supposed to give it only reluctantly to the bully or refuse to give it to the bully.
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You don't run to the bully and say, here's my lunch money, especially not when you're starving.
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China has been bullying Canada and that's even too light a word for it.
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Not only have they infected Canada with the virus, but they still hold our two hostages.
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Bruce writes, you're so right about Trudeau not knowing how to deal with the virus as well
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He's never had to change the world in a meaningful way.
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He just gives speeches and selfies and things happen or they don't happen.
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The virus doesn't respond to his sexy voice or his beard or his selfies.
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On my interview with Jim Carahalios, Kevin writes, excellent, excellent interview with
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I just don't understand why the Conservative Party of Canada would do this at all.
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Even if they disagree with Jim Carahalios' point of view.
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I didn't think it was particularly rambunctious.
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Why not just let the party members vote for or against him?
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I like Jim Carahalios, but I don't think he's going to win.
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I just don't think he has the horsepower on the team.
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Aaron O'Toole came in third in the last leadership race.
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Pretty sure one of those two guys is going to win.
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I'm not thrilled about either case, but why would you break the rules, kick out a guy
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It's almost like they didn't even bother to Google who Jim Carahalios was, a guy who
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fought and beat that same shenanigans from the Provincial Party of Ontario.
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Worse than that, though, I think it demoralizes Conservative Party members who say, oh, so there's
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They kicked out a pro-life traditional family candidate named DeCarrie.
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Now they're kicking out an anti-carbon tax, anti-Sharia candidate named Carahalios.
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So the party is deciding that it doesn't want a big coalition, a big tent for the next election.
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And now, of course, they're going to buy themselves a lawsuit and all the bad publicity.
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Just dumb and very depressing because we actually need an opposition party right now.
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And I don't think we're seeing it from the Conservatives.
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We'll report it as both the shenanigans of the Conservatives and the Liberals.
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And, you know, the media party, which is being bought off yet again.
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Until then, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, stay safe and keep fighting for freedom.