Rebel News Podcast - August 31, 2019


New Angus Reid poll shows Canadians don't just dislike Justin Trudeau — they hate him!


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29 minutes

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170.71509

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401

Misogynist Sentences

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7


Summary

A new poll by Angus Reid says Canadians don't like Justin Trudeau. They hate him. Ezra takes you through the numbers and explains why he thinks it's a good idea to jail the Prime Minister. He also explains why the Liberals are going to lose the election.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today, I take you through the latest Angus Reid poll. Very interesting.
00:00:05.860 There's lots of interesting numbers. I'll just share with you very quickly my
00:00:09.120 favorite one. Did you know that 63% of Canadians dislike Justin Trudeau?
00:00:15.920 I bet you probably did know that. Hey, before I move on and get to the show,
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00:00:44.260 Tonight, a new poll by Angus Reid says Canadians don't dislike Justin Trudeau.
00:00:50.080 They hate him. It's August 30th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:56.640 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:00.060 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:04.120 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my
00:01:08.740 bloody right to do so.
00:01:15.180 A new poll out by Angus Reid. Here's his headline.
00:01:20.460 Ahead of September, writ drop liberals claw back into close race with conservatives.
00:01:24.540 That's true enough, and I suppose that's the main thing anyone wants to know in a poll.
00:01:29.260 The conservatives are at 36%. The liberals are at 32%. The NDP are pretty far back at 14%.
00:01:35.980 And the Greens are on track to do their best ever in Canada, 9%. I mean, it sounds like losing,
00:01:41.920 but actually it's really concentrated in a few places. So I hate to say they'll probably punch
00:01:46.800 through in the first place in a few ridings if they keep this up. Remember,
00:01:50.440 they recently won a by-election in Nanaimo on Vancouver Island with an extremely radical
00:01:55.620 candidate. So that's real. It bothers me a bit, to be honest, that this poll doesn't mention
00:02:00.720 Maxime Bernier's People's Party by name. They have the Bloc Québécois there at 4%. It's actually
00:02:05.680 17% in Quebec is what they mean. And then they have other. Well, that's Bernier, right? Why not just
00:02:12.000 say it? Here's the second part of the news, I guess. The trend.
00:02:15.580 In fact, that trend shows that it hasn't been this close since the SNC-Lavalin fiasco dropped
00:02:22.080 in February. Just last month, the lead was 8%. And April, if you can see it, the liberals
00:02:27.080 were behind by, they were down at 25%, which is shocking. The conservatives were at 38%. So that's
00:02:34.840 a 13-point gap. The NDP back then were fairly strong at 18%. Well, the NDP back down to 14.
00:02:41.700 liberals are recovering. The gap is narrowing. It's a trend. They think they can just get away
00:02:46.680 with this SNC-Lavalin thing, just brazen it out. Do you think they're right?
00:02:51.220 Here's another chart. This one asks an interesting question. Who did you vote for in 2015? And would
00:02:57.080 you vote for them again? So 85% of conservatives who voted for Harper say they will vote for Scheer.
00:03:03.260 I'm not surprised. But look at the liberals. Only 64% who voted for Trudeau last time are going
00:03:08.760 to vote for him this time, they say. They're disaffected. The NDP number is just shocking,
00:03:15.000 of course. But that's just Jagmeet Singh's awful political instincts and the fact that Trudeau
00:03:19.560 himself has moved to the left and the Greens. The left is a crowded place in Canadian politics.
00:03:24.940 Look at this. The 36% who are leaving the liberals, they're split pretty evenly between going to the
00:03:31.020 conservatives and going to the NDP. And a big chunk go to the Greens. I'd like to see where that 15%
00:03:36.540 who left the conservatives are going to. I bet they're mainly going to Bernier, but we don't have
00:03:41.780 that data on the Angus Street website. The regional breakdown is what you'd expect. Westerners hate
00:03:48.040 Trudeau. And I mean hate. Look at the prairies in Saskatchewan and Manitoba. You'd have to ask five
00:03:53.800 people. Would you vote for Trudeau? Would you vote for Trudeau? How about you? Or you? That's just four
00:03:59.300 people. You'd have to ask another person, a fifth person. Would you vote for Trudeau? Because his
00:04:03.280 support in the prairies is only 19%, 20% in Alberta. BC shows they've fallen out of love with Trudeau
00:04:10.220 hard. I think it's Jody Wilson-Raybould's revenge. Naturally, the older you are, the more likely you
00:04:16.340 are to vote for conservatives. That's life. You have property. You have family, kids and grandkids.
00:04:21.180 You're worried about the future. You're worried about crime. You have something to lose now. You pay taxes.
00:04:25.840 You're probably not a socialist anymore. You're probably not impressed by how sexy Trudeau's hair
00:04:30.760 and his socks are. And you're probably worried about marijuana and your kids getting running with
00:04:37.660 the wrong crowd. You're not a kid trying to score some marijuana anymore. I noticed that baby boomer
00:04:43.180 women are the most pro-Trudeau people. Maybe that's just reminiscences about how sexy Pierre Trudeau
00:04:51.060 was. I don't know. Maybe it's just a trip down memory lane, Trudeau, like watching old Woodstock
00:04:55.900 reels. I have no idea. Young women are the big Green Party backers. No surprise. I bet there's a
00:05:00.960 lot of vegetarians in that category, too. You know, white girls with dreadlocks kind of thing.
00:05:06.900 But look at one more thing there. Look at young men aged 18 to 34. They're voting for other. 12% of
00:05:12.640 them are. No, they're not voting for other. That's absolutely Maxime Bernier's base. And again,
00:05:18.400 I complain that Angus Reid doesn't break his party out. Those are young men sick of being
00:05:23.480 told about male privilege and white privilege and heterosexual privilege. Sick of being told
00:05:29.060 to shut up about insanity like trans extremism or insanity like open borders. Sick of being told not
00:05:36.520 to use plastic straws by people who are flying private jets. Sick of being hectored and lectured
00:05:41.840 and banned. That's young populist men. They should be conservatives, but Andrew Scheer is too afraid
00:05:46.520 to stand up for their issues like freedom of speech. So they're for Bernier. But let me show
00:05:52.800 you the stat I find most interesting. And I'll talk with Lauren Gunter about this in a moment.
00:05:56.340 Look at the favorable, unfavorable split for each leader personally. And as you can see,
00:06:02.040 this is the only category where Maxime Bernier is mentioned by name, maybe because he's doing so
00:06:06.480 poorly in this stat. Now, the first thing to see is that none of the leaders has a net positive rating,
00:06:11.660 is in the number of people who like them minus the number of people who dislike them. Elizabeth May
00:06:16.260 is, in a doubt, she breaks even at zero. But all the other leaders are actively disliked. Andrew Scheer
00:06:23.140 and Jagmeet Singh, just over half the people dislike them. Scheer has 38% favorable ratings,
00:06:30.880 which is not surprising since 36% of people say they'll actually vote for him. And look at that,
00:06:36.320 though. 63% of people don't like Justin Trudeau. 63%. That is stunning. You wouldn't know it if
00:06:43.140 your only source of news with the CBC, they love him. I mean, they love him as in go on a date with
00:06:50.480 him, love him. Most Canadians don't want to go on a date with Justin Trudeau. So look at Trudeau,
00:06:57.680 31% favorable, 63% unfavorable. People mock Trump for being at around 8 and 50% in the polls,
00:07:03.460 despite massive media hate. Trudeau is at 31% in the polls, despite massive media love. Imagine if
00:07:10.620 either leader just had straight normal media coverage. Trump would be at 60%. Trudeau would
00:07:15.340 be at 20%. I don't know. So what does this all mean? It means it's a close election in October,
00:07:21.420 and we haven't even seen the left-wing super PAC campaigns yet. But it also means there is a lot
00:07:25.820 of dissatisfaction with all the choices of the status quo, with the entire establishment. People don't
00:07:31.140 trust politicians, and they don't trust the media. Now, I knew that, and you knew that,
00:07:36.500 because we're outsiders, and we talk about this all the time. But those same extreme disapproval
00:07:41.300 numbers, well, you could apply them to everything in this country. Cell phone companies, cable
00:07:46.620 companies, banks, hospital waiting lines, crummy schools, the media, of course, leftist pop stars,
00:07:53.820 professors of gender studies, global warming activists who fly by jet. I look at those disapproval
00:07:59.580 numbers, and I say, our entire country is not being well-served by any of its leaders. Do you agree?
00:08:07.380 Stay with us for more.
00:08:08.340 Hey, welcome back, everybody. And joining us now to talk more about these poll numbers is my friend,
00:08:27.440 Lauren Gunter. Lauren, just before we turn the camera on, you told me that Angus Reid actually
00:08:33.020 used to be a liberal. I didn't even know that. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I was,
00:08:39.140 I used to be too. And back in 1983 and 84, when I worked in Ottawa as chief of staff to a cabinet
00:08:46.880 minister, Angus Reid was the Liberal Party's pollster, and he was Pierre Trudeau's favorite
00:08:52.600 pollster. He was ahead of his time. He used techniques that were only just being developed
00:08:57.880 in polling. He wasn't, you know, just phone and ask basic questions. He did counter questions.
00:09:03.300 He tried to find out whether or not people were aware of what they thought, as opposed to just
00:09:09.240 saying what they think. Because lots of times people will tell pollsters what they think pollsters
00:09:14.140 want to hear. And Angus Reid was trying to develop techniques for weeding that out and getting at what
00:09:19.160 people really thought. And so he was a very, very popular pollster. He was the Liberal Party's
00:09:23.080 pollstered during campaigns and in between campaigns. And so it's interesting, too, now that
00:09:28.680 he is, as you say, he's based outside Ottawa. And he doesn't seem to get caught up in the partisan
00:09:35.540 games. I think a lot of pollsters like the idea that they'll be kind of soft towards one party that
00:09:42.420 might get in power, hoping that they get a whole bunch of government contracts to do polling for the
00:09:48.080 ministry of infrastructure and the foreign affairs department, you know, so that they get to do
00:09:55.020 attitudes about new programs and things that pay a lot of money. Whereas political, a lot of times,
00:10:03.540 voter intention polling doesn't get as much money. They do those as loss leaders in some ways,
00:10:09.040 hoping they're going to get a big government contract.
00:10:10.740 That's a good point. You know, and when you say Angus Reid was Pierre Trudeau's favorite pollster,
00:10:15.460 that does not necessarily mean at all that he was the most partisan. In fact,
00:10:19.400 it probably means the opposite. It probably means he was the most accurate. I mean, I suppose some
00:10:24.900 politicians like to be lied to. But I would imagine that if you're as successful as Pierre Trudeau was,
00:10:31.580 it's because you wanted to occasionally hear the bad news, the real news. And a valuable pollster
00:10:37.980 would seem to me as someone who could get you the truth and not just tell you what you hope the truth
00:10:42.160 was. Yeah, I guess. But Angus, you know, he's been through a couple of iterations since he was
00:10:49.060 Angus Reid pollster back in the 80s. And then there was Ipsus Reid and then Ipsus and Reid had a falling
00:10:57.700 out. And eventually, after the non-competition agreements and things were done, Angus started up
00:11:03.380 again. And I think Angus is still a very solid pollster.
00:11:06.140 Yeah. OK, well, we're talking about him and and you would think that the numbers would speak for
00:11:10.380 themselves. But of course, in this age, everything is a little bit partisan. Everything everyone has
00:11:15.040 their angle. Let's go into the polling numbers. Something I mentioned earlier, which is just
00:11:18.980 striking to me, is the poll is broken down by region. And obviously, the sample size in Saskatchewan
00:11:25.400 and Manitoba is not huge. It's only 190 people. But still, if you ask 190 randomly chosen
00:11:32.740 prairie folks, you're going to get a, you know, as well, that's how accurate it is.
00:11:38.760 He says the Liberal Party is at 19 percent in the prairies. That's even lower than in Alberta.
00:11:48.300 19 percent. I remember a recent Angus Reid poll. It was in the low 20s. And I was shocked by that.
00:11:55.120 And I saw that the male voters, like men in Saskatchewan, it was like only 20 percent. I was
00:12:01.980 shocked by that. This isn't broken out by gender. But if it's 19 percent for both men
00:12:07.040 and women, I bet the number of men in Saskatchewan who vote for Trudeau is like 15 percent.
00:12:15.360 This doesn't surprise me in the least. Even ECOS came out with a poll last week that showed
00:12:23.720 the the conservatives ahead in Alberta by 50 points. That doesn't mean they had 50 percent
00:12:29.980 support. They had closer to 70 percent support. They were 50 points ahead of the next party and
00:12:35.200 the number two party was the Liberal. So on the prairies, the Liberals and Trudeau have been written
00:12:41.760 off. I saw numbers like this back in in the early 80s after the National Energy Program. You saw Pierre
00:12:49.580 Trudeau's numbers fall to below 20 percent in the prairie provinces, also in BC in many cases,
00:12:56.860 in the interior in particular. Certainly, I can't speak to the interior BC right now. I know Trudeau is
00:13:04.100 not popular there, but he is as unpopular as his father was after the National Energy Program in the
00:13:11.340 three prairie provinces. And they're now polling below 20 percent, which is considered below their
00:13:17.340 natural floor. So even Liberals aren't happy with the Liberals on the prairies. And that's great.
00:13:26.580 That's wonderful. That means that probably, as happened with the Liberals after Pierre Trudeau,
00:13:31.580 there will not be another Liberal elected in Alberta for two generations. But unfortunately,
00:13:37.580 the numbers are not that bad for the Liberals in the lower mainland of BC, in the greater Toronto area,
00:13:46.460 in the Golden Horseshoe around Toronto, and in Quebec. And so, you know, we could end up with
00:13:52.380 the heavily populated areas of the country foisting another Trudeau government on the rest of us.
00:13:58.460 Yeah. I want to talk about one more region, and that is British Columbia. According to this poll,
00:14:04.060 the Liberals are at 29 percent, which I'm surprised a little bit to see that the Conservatives are at 35
00:14:11.900 percent because the Conservatives lost a lot of seats to the Liberals in the last election.
00:14:17.260 Part of that was because of the focus of those US-funded environmental lobby groups who zeroed in
00:14:25.820 on swing ridings and said, all right, let's get everyone voting strategically. And in most cases,
00:14:30.780 it was the Liberals. So to see the Liberals down under 30 percent, the Conservatives at 35.
00:14:35.580 But it's so obvious what's going on is you can see the Green Party is at 19 percent. And by the way,
00:14:42.940 I was just in Nanaimo about two weeks ago. The Green Party poked through there in a by-election. A lot
00:14:48.300 of people say, oh, it's a by-election. It's a fluke. Yeah. Well, when you've got 19 percent support for
00:14:53.100 the Green Party, and that's probably double that on Vancouver Island, you're going to see some MPs
00:14:59.580 poke through. Yeah. And I think the interesting thing about the BC numbers is that the Greens,
00:15:06.700 everywhere else in the country, all other provinces and territories, where the Greens come up,
00:15:13.420 it's at the expense of the NDP. In BC, though, when the Greens go up, it seems to be at the expense
00:15:20.140 of the Liberals. So the Liberals were supposed to be the Green Party that was also pro-development.
00:15:27.180 And somehow they have blown that image with many BC voters, particularly on the island and to some
00:15:34.380 extent in what you'd call the outer lower mainland, the Chilliwack, Abbotsford, East Surrey areas.
00:15:42.940 And those are populated areas that have lots of seats. So that's an interesting feature of that
00:15:51.820 Angus Reid poll is that everywhere else in the country, the Greens succeed at the NDP's expense.
00:15:58.140 But in the lower mainland of BC, which is really going to be tight in this election, it may very
00:16:04.140 well decide who wins and who loses. The Greens seem to come up at the expense of the Liberals, not the NDP.
00:16:11.580 Well, one of my theories, and I don't think this is a unique observation by me, is that it is the
00:16:18.460 Jody Wilson-Raybould effect. There is someone who was supposed to be the absolute epitome, the
00:16:24.380 personification of the liberal brand, a woman, Aboriginal, smart, lawyer, environmentalist,
00:16:31.980 solid. I mean, just, I mean, in my mind, she was far left, but let's put that aside for a moment,
00:16:37.660 just the persona. And really the political story of the year is Bob Fyfe and Steve Chase of the
00:16:45.580 Globe and Mail and the SNC-Lavalin and her dignity throughout that, by the way. And again, whenever
00:16:51.580 I praise Jody Wilson-Raybould, some people say, oh, she was far left. I know that. But I'm just saying
00:16:56.460 she was a terrible justice minister until the SNC-Lavalin thing came along.
00:17:00.140 And in an irony, or maybe irony is the wrong word, the most important part about being a
00:17:06.540 justice minister is that you actually support justice and that you support the rule of law,
00:17:10.460 and then you stop the meddling. And on the one thing that really mattered,
00:17:15.180 I think she showed more principle than any politician in 50 years.
00:17:18.460 Yes, she did. Absolutely.
00:17:20.060 And I think the dignity with which she carried herself, and she didn't look like she was a
00:17:25.020 grasping opportunist. In fact, she was too silent for too long in my mind. And I think the respect for
00:17:32.700 her in BC is so high. And everyone who likes her, it's, you know, it's a net sum, a zero sum business,
00:17:42.060 that respect has come at the expense of their disrespect for Trudeau.
00:17:47.020 Because they know she was a woman wronged. And wronged by whom? By Trudeau.
00:17:52.380 I think that shows in the Angus Reid numbers too, in which Trudeau is the most disliked of all of
00:18:00.860 the five major party leaders, followed closely by Maxime Bernier. But Trudeau, 63% of people polled by
00:18:09.980 Angus Reid disliked Trudeau. That is a far cry from 2015.
00:18:15.100 Oh, it's shocking.
00:18:16.380 When his approval rating kept going up and up and up and up through the campaign.
00:18:19.580 And so when you get a, lots of times, it's not necessary to look at how popular a party or a
00:18:27.100 politician is, but how unpopular, because that will tell you what kind of a ceiling they have
00:18:32.140 for taking votes during a campaign. And it would look as though Justin Trudeau doesn't have a lot
00:18:37.580 of room to grow during the campaign. People are starting to write him off. And once you're written
00:18:42.380 off by voters, it's very unusual for a politician to have a renaissance to come back and win again.
00:18:51.340 So I still am predicting the liberals will sneak this election out, probably in a minority. But boy,
00:18:59.900 there are sure a lot of encouraging signs that maybe enough voters will have had enough of this guy,
00:19:07.020 that they'll vote against the Liberal Party.
00:19:08.620 You know, that's a good point you make. You're negative. The people who dislike you,
00:19:14.140 that's the part of the lake you can't fish in, so to speak, for votes. And if Trudeau's
00:19:20.940 disapproval number is 63 percent, and I'm looking at it right here on my computer,
00:19:24.780 the number who favor him is 31 percent. It's no surprise that the number who say they would vote
00:19:29.820 Liberal is almost identical, 32 percent. You know, I don't see it broken out in this particular press
00:19:35.500 release that I'm looking at here, but in an earlier Angus Reid poll, he split up disapproval into
00:19:44.620 slightly disapprove and greatly disapprove. So, and what was interesting about those stats,
00:19:50.300 and I'll see if we can dig up an image of that, if you dislike Justin Trudeau, you dislike him a lot.
00:19:58.220 So you like him, you like him, you like him, and then when that ends, it's a disillusionment.
00:20:05.020 And I think the perfect manifestation of that is his old platonic boyfriend, I'm joking around,
00:20:10.380 obviously they weren't boyfriend, Paul Wells, who for years felt like a Justin Trudeau
00:20:17.260 cheerleader and Trudeau whisperer. He was his press agent at McLean. Yeah. And here's my favorite
00:20:24.780 picture of him posing for a selfie with Trudeau. They were on a first name basis. And then Paul Wells,
00:20:30.780 when you fall out of love, it hurts so bad. You don't just fall out of love a little bit. You,
00:20:36.060 you hit the ground hard and look at this cover in McLean's, the imposter. And that's, go ahead.
00:20:42.860 And it's because, I think it's because Wells, like a lot of Trudeau acolytes from 2015,
00:20:50.380 realized that they had allowed themselves to be duped, that they had wanted so much to like this
00:20:56.140 guy, that they overestimated how wonderful he was. And then rather than say, oh, I was dumb. Yeah.
00:21:03.180 They're saying, oh yeah, this guy's a phony. He's an imposter. It's his fault that, that we now
00:21:09.820 are no longer able to like him. And, uh, and I think that's, that's happened with a lot of
00:21:15.020 voters. I mean, I think it started with, uh, maybe with a few things in the early years,
00:21:20.380 but particularly with the February, 2018 trip to India. I mean, he looks so farcical at that.
00:21:27.420 The people started to, to, to wonder what in heaven's name they'd gotten themselves into.
00:21:31.420 And, and I think I've used this analogy with you before. I mean, in 2015, a lot of voters were
00:21:36.860 prepared to give up the bland, solid accountant that they had been with for 10 years in favor of
00:21:44.380 the, the sharp looking pool boy who offered a little bit of zing. And now they, and now they've
00:21:51.020 awakened to the fact that the pool boys rutting routing through their purse, looking for money for
00:21:56.380 weed. Yeah. You know, that's a perfect analogy. Oh my God. I, you know what I, please forgive me.
00:22:03.820 I'm going to steal that analogy, Lauren. I'll give you credit, but I did too good.
00:22:07.020 I got to use that. It's exactly what he is. Let me say one more thing about the imposter.
00:22:12.540 It, it's not just a general imposter that he was a sweet talking hustler, like the pool boy you
00:22:17.260 described, but he was a huckster. He said he was a feminist and we've learned so much about how he
00:22:22.940 actually treats women. He said he was for Aboriginal reconciliation, but holy moly.
00:22:28.380 Look at him treat the grassy narrowest protesters. He said he was for democratic reform and cleaner
00:22:33.420 government, but whoa, this SNC. So he actually, it's not just that he's a pickup artist. Whenever
00:22:39.740 I hear, he slips into a voice and he talks like this and Canadians can do better. Like he puts on this
00:22:47.180 voice and I just can't stop thinking about him as one of those, you know, using your pool boy in
00:22:52.060 a metaphor, a pickup artist who teaches other guys how to manipulate women to go out with them.
00:22:57.580 I get this pickup artist vibe from him. It's not just a style. It's a substance too. The guy who said
00:23:04.300 he would have the most clean and transparent and accountable government did none of that.
00:23:07.980 The guy who railed against Harper's partisanship, look at how he stacked the Senate. So it's amazing.
00:23:13.660 But let me ask you the big question. That disapproval number is staggeringly large, 63%.
00:23:20.780 You would almost think that would disqualify a guy from winning mathematically. But I thought
00:23:25.500 I heard you say you think he's going to squeak it out. I do. I do because I think in the areas of
00:23:31.420 the country that have the largest number of votes, at the very last, too many voters are going to say
00:23:39.980 that Andrew Scheer just doesn't impress me. I think the conservatives have a great new slogan.
00:23:46.060 You know, paraphrasing it, it's time you got your share, basically. I think that's great. I think that
00:23:55.020 the message in the ads is clearly laid out and it's smart. I love the ad that he had where
00:24:01.180 he walked through his old neighborhood in Regina. And he said, I know what it's like
00:24:05.260 for people who live in a neighborhood like this, because this is the house I grew up in.
00:24:09.580 And it's a row house in a low income area of Regina. That's great. But when you look at him,
00:24:17.900 I don't know, would you hire him to do the landscaping at your house or would you like
00:24:23.180 him to be the prime minister? You know, he just he just lacks something that I think an awful lot of
00:24:29.580 people. Increasingly, voters don't pay attention to elections until the last 72 hours. And I think
00:24:35.500 when they tune in 72 hours before October 21st, they're going to just say, yeah, I don't like the
00:24:41.980 Trudeau guy, but that cheer guy is not my alternative. So they'll cast a grudging vote for Trudeau.
00:24:48.300 Yeah. Oh, and we have not even begun to see not only the liberal war machine, but the 100
00:24:55.100 third party super PAC groups. We saw a little bit of Maxime Bernier's super PAC action
00:25:00.060 the other day that got a little bit of media buzz. Good for him for stealing some headlines
00:25:04.460 in August. But whoa, in October, you are going to have such deep, sheer bashing. It'll be well,
00:25:12.860 I think it'll be the dirtiest election in Canadian history.
00:25:14.860 I think you're absolutely right. And I saw the Unifor ads yesterday during U.S. Open tennis,
00:25:23.660 I was watching. And it's a guy, a working class guy who goes to a vending machine and gets ripped
00:25:29.980 off. And, you know, the message is what if we elect sheer, that's what's going to happen to working
00:25:35.820 class Canadians. It's just that the level of vitriol towards sheer is staggering. I could kind of
00:25:43.900 understand it towards Harper because Harper was a tough guy. He was an intellectual and he was
00:25:50.700 ruthless with opponents. Sheer's not a ruthless guy. He's a nice enough guy. And yet the animus
00:25:59.820 towards him is unbelievable. It's worse than it was towards Harper.
00:26:03.420 Huh. From whom, can I ask you? Who's...
00:26:06.060 Well, I think just people you hear in our business, people from the interest groups that
00:26:13.580 that are liberal leaning. I remember, and then sometimes just like our kids have
00:26:20.380 fairly liberal friends. And you hear them say things about Andrew Sheer, you know, are preposterous.
00:26:25.020 Yeah. But they're picking that up, obviously, from social media. I remember after the last election,
00:26:31.180 talking to one of our son's friends in Vancouver and the kid said, oh, thank God we were able to get
00:26:37.900 rid of that dictator Harper. He said, dictator? If he's a dictator, how do you hold a free election?
00:26:43.740 Yeah.
00:26:45.740 Give your head a shake.
00:26:46.780 Yeah.
00:26:47.420 And he said, oh, that's not what I mean. I told him, yeah, exactly what you mean.
00:26:50.620 Yeah.
00:26:50.940 But you hear things worse than that about Sheer will chain all women back in the kitchen and
00:26:57.980 and he will put all LGBTQ people back in the closet. When has he ever said anything? Even if you look
00:27:06.220 back to 2005, which is what the liberals have been doing with their little apparatchiks in the media
00:27:12.620 the last two weeks. You look back to 2005 and the debate on same-sex marriage. Sheer said things that
00:27:19.180 would indicate he was against same-sex marriage. So did a lot of liberals. If you look at Ralph
00:27:25.500 Goodale, who holds the neighboring riding in Regina, he said very much the same thing
00:27:30.460 that Andrew Sheer did. It wasn't outrageous at the time, what he said. It's not outrageous now.
00:27:36.060 It may be wrong. We can argue whether it's right or wrong, but they're talking about it now like,
00:27:41.740 you know, he said, well, I think that all LGBTQ people should be sent off to an island and we
00:27:50.380 should never have to see them again. Nobody's ever said anything like that.
00:27:53.900 Yeah. And yet the animus towards Sheer is, it's tangible.
00:28:00.380 Yeah. Well, that's interesting. If I had to guess, if the election were held today,
00:28:05.740 I would say a conservative minority, but it's not held today. It's going to be held after 50 days
00:28:11.660 of absolute media pounding. And I don't know if Sheer's got it in them to fight back. I predict,
00:28:17.580 and I'm sorry to say it, I predicted Trudeau minority if I had to make a prediction today
00:28:22.300 about what will happen October 21st. Lauren, great to see you again. Thanks for spending time
00:28:25.740 with us. All right. There you have it, our friend Lauren Gunter, senior columnist with the Edmonton Sun.
00:28:30.700 Stay with us. More ahead on The Rebel.
00:28:43.580 Well, that's the show for today. What do you think about the upcoming election? It's going to be here
00:28:49.020 so fast. I mean, you can feel that sort of gurgling away right now, but after Labor Day,
00:28:53.900 holy moly, expect absolute saturation media. The Rebel will be playing and be playing a very
00:29:00.140 important role in that election, I believe. All right. Well, that's the show for today. I hope
00:29:05.020 you have a great weekend, great long weekend. We'll have a special show for you on Monday,
00:29:08.940 I believe it's scheduled for. So we'll be on on Monday, even though most folks will be off.
00:29:14.300 Until then, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.
00:29:20.220 Keep fighting for freedom.