Rebel News Podcast - April 03, 2021


New poll shows Erin O’Toole falls further behind： Here's some advice!


Episode Stats

Length

41 minutes

Words per Minute

157.37729

Word Count

6,515

Sentence Count

484

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

A new poll shows Aaron O'Toole falling further behind. Instead of being negative, I'll give him the best advice I can. It's April 2nd, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show, where I m trying my very best to give him constructive advice.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Boy, we have a different kind of show today. Instead of grumbling about Aaron
00:00:08.460 O'Toole, the conservative party leader, I thought, you know what? If I was trying my very, very best
00:00:13.980 to give him constructive advice, good advice, helpful advice, practical advice, specific advice,
00:00:19.980 what would it be? If I had like five suggestions or even four or three, what would they be?
00:00:25.600 Well, that's today's show. What do you think? Do you think the ideas I'm about to share with you
00:00:31.620 would help or hurt? Would they get him closer to 24 Sussex Drive or be a disaster? Well,
00:00:39.280 listen, and you tell me later. Let me invite you to become a video subscriber, though,
00:00:45.320 to what we call Rebel News Plus. It's the video version of the podcast. I think it's useful
00:00:49.600 because we always show video clips and charts and graphs. I showed some new polling charts today,
00:00:53.840 which should run a chill down your spine if you're a conservative. Anyways, I'd love it if
00:00:59.580 you subscribe. Go to rebelnews.com, click subscribe, eight bucks a month, because we live on that money.
00:01:04.440 We pay our payroll on that money, and I'd rather do it that way than take the media bailout.
00:01:12.300 All right, here's today's podcast.
00:01:14.260 Tonight, a new poll shows Aaron O'Toole falls further behind. Instead of being negative,
00:01:34.580 I'll give him the best advice I can. It's April 2nd, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:39.360 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:45.100 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:49.160 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
00:01:54.020 right to do so.
00:01:59.780 I'm disappointed in Aaron O'Toole, but really, being disappointed in politicians is the norm,
00:02:04.520 isn't it? It's rare not to be disappointed in a politician. It just usually takes a bit longer.
00:02:10.220 Here's the 60-second version.
00:02:13.040 Canceling Derek Sloan on trumped-up charges of racism.
00:02:16.380 Laughable, given that Sloan's entire family is a visible minority.
00:02:19.800 Demoting Pierre Polly of the party's one star.
00:02:23.600 Banning Pierre from speaking at the party's recent conference.
00:02:26.960 Flip-flopping on 480. He now says he loves it.
00:02:29.760 And of course, just a couple of weeks ago, drawing a line in the sand for his own party members,
00:02:34.640 telling them they have to shut up and buy into the left-wing idea of global warming or else.
00:02:40.240 As we all know, the COVID-19 pandemic has changed the world.
00:02:47.760 Canada has changed.
00:02:50.520 Our party has to change too.
00:02:53.280 There's been a lot of speculation about what I'm going to say about climate change in this speech.
00:02:58.940 To those who are expecting a dramatic moment, I'm afraid you'll be disappointed.
00:03:04.320 But I will say this.
00:03:06.300 From the first days of my campaign to lead our party, I've said two things consistently.
00:03:13.020 One, we all want a green future for our children.
00:03:17.520 We cannot ignore the reality of climate change.
00:03:20.720 The debate is over.
00:03:22.000 Yeah, pretty weird, pretty obscure, niche, left-wing issue.
00:03:26.760 Even Trudeau doesn't bang on about global warming these days.
00:03:30.040 People who care about it are in the single digits, according to Trudeau's own polls.
00:03:34.360 Everyone's talking about the pandemic and the lockdowns and jobs and debt, except Aaron O'Toole.
00:03:39.920 So how's that working out for you?
00:03:41.540 Well, here's a new poll.
00:03:43.380 I grant that it's from Abacus, which has too many connections to the Liberal Party for my liking.
00:03:47.980 But it's the same thing we've seen recently in a Nanos poll and a Leger poll.
00:03:53.640 Instead of getting a bump from O'Toole's recent conservative convention, O'Toole sort of tanked things.
00:04:00.320 Here's the new Abacus data.
00:04:02.380 Let's take a look at it.
00:04:04.940 Liberals open up an eight-point lead over the conservatives as O'Toole's negatives keep rising.
00:04:09.520 Two weeks ago, the Liberals were ahead 33 to 29.
00:04:16.080 Now the Liberals are ahead 38 to 30.
00:04:20.220 38 percent, that's pretty close to majority territory for Trudeau.
00:04:24.640 Here it is by region, which I think is interesting.
00:04:26.560 In Ontario, the Liberals have a 16-point lead, 44 to 28.
00:04:31.880 That's going to be a slaughter.
00:04:33.440 I'm sorry.
00:04:34.240 I mean, B.C. looks pretty tied up, 31, 31, 29 to the NDP.
00:04:38.440 That's interesting.
00:04:39.700 Nine percent for the Greens.
00:04:41.600 That's going to be one to watch.
00:04:43.740 Probably some regional differences between the B.C. interior, Vancouver, Vancouver Island.
00:04:49.040 The Atlantic's going to be a wipeout when the Liberals have 51 percent, almost double the Tories.
00:04:54.820 Obviously, the Tories are still strong in the prairies.
00:04:57.140 But seriously, 25 percent support for the Liberals in Alberta under Trudeau?
00:05:02.880 That's a sign that people aren't exactly enthused with O'Toole.
00:05:05.820 You might even see a few Liberals pop up in Edmonton, I hate to say it.
00:05:09.620 But my point is, the man's going to lose the whole strategy behind shifting to the left
00:05:15.240 and distancing himself from Sloan and Polyev and Kenny and even from us here at Rebel News.
00:05:20.020 The whole point was to ingratiate himself with former Liberal voters in Ontario
00:05:24.160 and, to a lesser extent, B.C. and the Atlantic.
00:05:28.380 I guess Quebec.
00:05:29.680 It's just not happening.
00:05:30.820 Those former Liberal voters look like they will continue to be Liberal voters.
00:05:36.060 In fact, sort of the opposite is happening under O'Toole.
00:05:39.260 I should say, it looks like O'Toole is less popular in Canada than the Conservative Party itself.
00:05:46.280 If I'm understanding these different polls right,
00:05:49.500 this chart shows that 33 percent of Canadians don't like him, whereas 19 percent do like him.
00:05:56.580 So the earlier chart showed us that 30 percent of people say they would vote Conservative,
00:06:02.860 but if only 19 percent said they like the leader,
00:06:05.520 I think it suggests the problems may be with the leader, not the party or its policies.
00:06:10.480 And I get it.
00:06:11.500 Oh, Aaron O'Toole is not well known.
00:06:13.320 He doesn't stand for things, except, bizarrely, global warming.
00:06:16.940 So what should he do?
00:06:17.800 He's wasted more than half a year as leader, longer, actually.
00:06:22.880 And the leadership campaign for Tory leader was an extremely long affair.
00:06:27.860 Andrew Scheer, remember him?
00:06:29.700 He announced he was quitting in December of 2019.
00:06:34.040 The party leadership vote was in August 2020.
00:06:38.060 It's now April of 2021.
00:06:39.740 That's 16 months.
00:06:41.820 What does Aaron O'Toole stand for?
00:06:43.780 Why should you vote for him?
00:06:45.120 If you don't know him by now, I mean, maybe it's too late.
00:06:47.900 The answer's a week.
00:06:50.140 Scolding Conservatives at your own party who are skeptical of global warming
00:06:52.920 is not a good answer for who you are.
00:06:55.840 It'll make Liberals feel good, but it won't make Liberals vote for Aaron O'Toole.
00:06:59.260 It'll make them feel better about voting Liberal or Green or whatever.
00:07:03.080 Look, I don't have skin in the game.
00:07:05.760 A generation ago, I was involved.
00:07:07.580 I worked for Preston Manning in the Reform Party,
00:07:09.900 then briefly for Stockwell Day in the Canadian Alliance,
00:07:12.240 and then in 2008, I campaigned in Stephen Harper's election headquarters.
00:07:16.100 That was fun.
00:07:17.020 So that's all more than a dozen years ago.
00:07:20.620 Campaigns are different.
00:07:21.520 Social media really wasn't even a thing back then.
00:07:23.860 Twitter, YouTube, Facebook were all very, very new.
00:07:27.000 They didn't shape politics.
00:07:28.560 The media party, they were Liberal,
00:07:30.440 but it wasn't literally on the government payroll.
00:07:33.920 A lot has changed.
00:07:34.940 I get it.
00:07:35.420 But I think I'm pretty attentive to conservatives in Canada and to others
00:07:42.540 and how conservatives win here and there.
00:07:46.200 So if I was trying to be positive,
00:07:48.500 this would be my, I don't know, five-point plan.
00:07:52.340 If someone were to say,
00:07:53.400 Ezra, can you stop criticizing Aaron O'Toole just for a moment?
00:07:56.800 And can you actually give him some useful, constructive, friendly advice?
00:08:01.320 All right, I'll give it a shot.
00:08:02.240 Point one, first, make the decision not to talk
00:08:08.240 to the Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal media party.
00:08:12.660 Just try it out for the next month.
00:08:15.060 Now, I know that sounds crazy.
00:08:16.500 Isn't it bad enough that the media party ignores him?
00:08:20.100 Well, that's the point.
00:08:22.240 See, Aaron O'Toole is obviously addicted to their approval.
00:08:26.180 He craves their attention.
00:08:28.260 But more than that, he wants them to like him.
00:08:30.740 It's why he bends to their every whim.
00:08:34.020 If he were to cut them off like an alcoholic stopping to drink cold turkey,
00:08:38.080 it would force him not to care about what they thought
00:08:41.340 and force him to use other, less pejorative media.
00:08:45.240 Smaller market media, YouTubers.
00:08:47.820 I'm not saying don't talk to voters in Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal.
00:08:52.440 The opposite.
00:08:53.220 Talk to the voters, but don't talk to CBC and the Toronto Star
00:08:56.320 and the Globe and Mail gatekeepers.
00:08:57.740 This isn't just about getting his own stories out to the people.
00:09:01.980 It's about breaking his addiction to the media party's approval.
00:09:07.200 I think it's important.
00:09:08.080 It's a mindset change.
00:09:09.560 Second, choose controversies of his own choosing.
00:09:15.060 The liberals will drop controversies on Aaron O'Toole during the election.
00:09:18.740 They've got them stored up, ready to go, waiting to go.
00:09:21.420 Scandals.
00:09:23.120 Candidates who have said things on social media
00:09:25.540 that they're going to ask O'Toole, will you fire, whatever.
00:09:29.320 So controversies are going to come.
00:09:32.500 Putting O'Toole forward as Mr. Bland, that's not going to do it.
00:09:37.200 Do you know who this is?
00:09:39.880 Probably not.
00:09:41.340 He's no celebrity.
00:09:43.040 Just an ordinary Canadian who served his country.
00:09:46.340 Just a husband and father who stood up for workers.
00:09:51.280 Who works hard with years of experience in business.
00:09:55.680 Just someone who's in it for Canada, not for headlines.
00:10:00.160 Just Aaron.
00:10:01.420 Yeah, that's very nice, but that will not survive a personal attack on him.
00:10:11.280 The only way to fight and win the liberals and the liberal-paid media party
00:10:15.120 is to choose carefully, proactively, what you want the controversies to be about.
00:10:22.480 Because there will be a controversy.
00:10:23.840 So ideally, you want a controversy that the media party will really, really hate.
00:10:30.200 But that ordinary voters will love.
00:10:33.680 Ten years ago, that would have been Omar Khadr.
00:10:36.100 Every Canadian hates that traitor terrorist.
00:10:39.020 Only the liberal party and the media party and lawyers love him.
00:10:41.960 That's a perfect example.
00:10:43.940 What's another issue like that that's current?
00:10:47.640 What are three or four or five issues like that?
00:10:49.660 Put another way, if you don't have a front-page story in mind for yourself,
00:10:54.480 the other side does.
00:10:55.740 Here's an example.
00:10:56.500 I'll call this my third point.
00:10:57.780 Transgenderism in sports.
00:11:02.640 Perfect example.
00:11:04.440 Here's a tweet from Aaron O'Toole.
00:11:06.760 Today, we recommit to making Canada an equitable place for all people to live.
00:11:11.880 I stand with the trans community in Canada and around the world
00:11:14.820 in fighting for equal treatment.
00:11:17.060 Trans Day of Visibility.
00:11:18.340 So he tweeted that.
00:11:19.860 And I read it, but I was thinking, what does that mean?
00:11:22.680 Does it mean, hey, everybody, let's be nice to everyone, no matter what they're like,
00:11:27.840 and let's not be mean to anyone, and let's be kind, and let's not bully anyone?
00:11:33.300 Okay, great.
00:11:34.500 I agree.
00:11:35.960 But does it mean letting people who were born male, but who transition,
00:11:42.220 letting them play against girls in girls' sports leagues?
00:11:44.780 Because that's not about an equitable place for all people to live.
00:11:48.880 That's about destroying sports for girls.
00:11:52.020 That's about as unfeminist as possible, erasing actual women and girls, destroying their dreams.
00:11:58.340 Imagine if O'Toole said he really does want everyone to be nice to each other.
00:12:04.000 Don't be mean to trans people.
00:12:05.180 Don't pick on them.
00:12:06.820 Don't bully them.
00:12:08.060 Say all the nice things.
00:12:11.140 But then said he was going to introduce a rule protecting girls' sports, too,
00:12:15.780 from advantage-takers, from transgender male-to-female trans athletes.
00:12:21.880 And maybe he also mentioned transgender criminals getting to stay at women's prisons.
00:12:29.760 What do you think the public reaction would be if he said,
00:12:32.340 I like trans people, and I don't want them to be harmed,
00:12:35.680 but no more trans in girls' sports, no more trans in women's prisons?
00:12:42.120 What do you think?
00:12:42.720 90% of people would support that?
00:12:45.500 Including from a lot of trans and gay people, by the way,
00:12:48.840 and a lot of feminists, by the way, and a lot of women, by the way,
00:12:51.500 and a lot of girls, by the way.
00:12:52.340 And what do you think the reaction from the media party would be?
00:12:56.240 It would be the mere opposite, absolute rage.
00:12:59.120 Front-page coverage, which would be a good thing,
00:13:04.740 given that 90% of the public would support it.
00:13:09.140 In fact, maybe he should say that he wants Omar Khadr charged for treason,
00:13:15.980 and to see if he can claw back the $10.5 million that Trudeau gave him.
00:13:21.420 I mean, it's a little bit of a stale issue,
00:13:23.260 but what would happen, you'd immediately get a bunch of liberal lawyers and law professors
00:13:28.360 outraged, lots of front pages,
00:13:31.600 and what do you think the public would say?
00:13:35.440 Look, if you don't choose your controversies,
00:13:37.140 the other guy's going to choose them for you.
00:13:39.800 Now, transgender sports and Omar Khadr are not the biggest issues on the radar of our country.
00:13:44.640 I'm just giving you examples of something that are real conservative policies
00:13:47.580 the vast majority of ordinary people would agree with,
00:13:51.000 and they would push any fake controversies from the liberals off the front pages,
00:13:55.340 push global warming off the front pages,
00:13:57.400 and it would reveal the media itself as partisan,
00:14:00.020 but the harder the media would rage against O'Toole, the better, right?
00:14:04.620 It would make ordinary Canadians say,
00:14:06.260 I like that guy, oh, I'm with that guy,
00:14:09.300 as opposed to his ads, hi, I'm just Aaron.
00:14:11.640 I think there are other huge winners like that.
00:14:15.320 Roxham Road, the Liberal Party's obsession with bringing in record numbers of migrants,
00:14:20.400 even during a pandemic, even during a deep recession where we have 9.5% unemployment.
00:14:26.580 Did you see what Trudeau did just the other day?
00:14:28.860 He removed the ancient rule that screens out extremely ill people from immigrating here,
00:14:35.560 people with extremely expensive and dangerous medical conditions
00:14:39.380 who would immediately just go straight into our hospital system and be a burden.
00:14:43.460 Every country in the world screens for deep health problems.
00:14:47.620 It's just, why would you say we're going to be the entire world's hospital
00:14:51.200 displacing our own patients?
00:14:53.000 No one does that, but Trudeau just did.
00:14:56.980 He wants all the world's sick people to apply to move here.
00:15:00.040 Why? Why?
00:15:01.780 Now, the media loves that, except for themselves.
00:15:04.740 They'll jump to the front of the line.
00:15:06.300 They probably know someone.
00:15:07.120 But what do you think ordinary people would think of that,
00:15:10.220 including new immigrants, by the way, who had to come here the proper way?
00:15:14.800 You know, pulling back on immigration during a recession,
00:15:17.880 during 9.5% unemployment, when housing prices are absolutely insane in the big cities?
00:15:25.380 Sorry, that's going to resonate with, I don't know, 90% of people,
00:15:29.400 including legal immigrants who are saying,
00:15:31.680 how can I afford rent in Toronto or Vancouver?
00:15:34.860 Don't be mean about it.
00:15:36.960 Don't be rude about it.
00:15:38.620 Be pro-Canadian.
00:15:39.800 Be pro-common sense about it.
00:15:42.480 But refer to my point one above.
00:15:45.000 Just literally don't engage with the media party.
00:15:47.640 They're not real journalists.
00:15:48.740 They're liberals with press credentials.
00:15:50.480 Ignore them.
00:15:51.180 And their hatred for these ideas will give them free publicity.
00:15:56.140 One thing I almost liked from O'Toole's speech the other day
00:15:59.500 was when he said he wanted to reach out to organized labor.
00:16:02.700 I'm not going to sit around and wait for them to get serious.
00:16:06.240 The NDP no longer stand up for working Canadians and their families.
00:16:11.520 Private sector union workers share so many of our values of hard work,
00:16:16.400 family, and community.
00:16:17.920 Like us, they are proud of what we build here in Canada.
00:16:23.220 They should be voting conservative.
00:16:25.660 And if we have the courage to change our approach with organized labor,
00:16:30.520 to open our tent to them, we will win their trust.
00:16:34.480 Well, that was almost right.
00:16:35.720 You don't need to reach out to the organizations themselves.
00:16:39.620 That would be like Jerry Diaz and his pro-liberal uniform super PAC.
00:16:45.040 How about reaching out actually to union workers, not their liberal bosses?
00:16:49.800 How about reaching out to truck drivers, oil and gas workers, steel workers, pipeline workers?
00:16:54.420 Don't be shy about it.
00:16:55.560 That's an economic plan in itself.
00:16:57.200 That's a jobs plan.
00:16:58.520 That's a respect for the working people plan.
00:17:01.200 People who are ignored or attacked by the left these days.
00:17:03.800 And sure, there will be some squawking from that global warming hard left,
00:17:07.840 but nobody cares about that.
00:17:09.620 Go to British Columbia and the far north of Canada to show how important
00:17:13.360 industries like mining and logging and trucking and oil sands are to Aboriginal communities.
00:17:18.140 Put the left on the back foot.
00:17:19.920 Why are you against jobs for the working man?
00:17:21.960 Why are you against jobs for Aboriginal people?
00:17:23.980 But the number one thing Otill needs to do
00:17:25.660 is to talk about the number one thing on Canadians' minds.
00:17:30.400 The pandemic.
00:17:31.760 And more to the point, the lockdowns.
00:17:33.460 As I showed you yesterday, 96% of pandemic victims are over age 60.
00:17:40.720 So for the vast majority of working families in Canada,
00:17:44.420 the problem with the pandemic is not a health problem.
00:17:48.200 It's a lockdown problem.
00:17:50.200 A schools are shut down problem.
00:17:51.780 A jobs problem.
00:17:52.940 A businesses are shut down problem.
00:17:55.060 A travel is shut down problem.
00:17:57.600 How about their voice?
00:17:59.320 How about speaking for them?
00:18:00.800 Not recklessly.
00:18:02.820 But how about say a word about economic freedom?
00:18:05.840 And letting people earn a living?
00:18:07.060 How about letting people choose their own fear level?
00:18:09.880 How about pointing out that American states are moving on with real life?
00:18:13.480 Even the Democrat states.
00:18:15.600 While Canada slouches backwards.
00:18:18.040 You know, like Pierre Polyev did in the House the other day.
00:18:21.540 Well, Madam Speaker, I want to share some good news with the House.
00:18:25.220 The Seattle Mariners will host 9,000 fans.
00:18:29.720 They just got approval from Washington State.
00:18:32.300 A very progressive and woke state south of the border
00:18:36.760 whose ideological inclinations are very similar to this government.
00:18:40.920 And they have signed off on a safe plan, according to that state,
00:18:45.060 to allow 9,000 fans to participate in a major sporting event in Seattle, no less.
00:18:52.780 We got simultaneously the news that our Toronto Blue Jays
00:18:57.720 are not going to be able to do anything similar.
00:19:01.280 In fact, they put out a statement in which they said that
00:19:04.280 though we had hoped for improvements in the public health outlook
00:19:08.140 as we neared the 2021 baseball season,
00:19:11.540 with the ongoing Canada-U.S. border closure,
00:19:15.140 we have made the difficult decision to play the first two homestands
00:19:19.400 of the 2021 regular season at TD Ballpark in Florida.
00:19:25.940 That's my favorite conservative leader right there.
00:19:28.580 Alas, he's not the official leader, is he?
00:19:30.480 Boy, I wish O'Toole would talk that way.
00:19:32.800 And yeah, the media party is going to freak out
00:19:36.200 if he does the things I've just listed.
00:19:39.000 As the public health deep state would,
00:19:41.560 and the scolding classes,
00:19:43.180 and the sneering public sector unions
00:19:45.640 who haven't lost a day's pain.
00:19:47.800 But who cares?
00:19:48.500 They are not going to vote for O'Toole no matter what.
00:19:52.640 Why is he so scared of them?
00:19:55.120 Call for a division, as they say in Parliament.
00:19:57.900 Put a strong question out there.
00:19:59.440 Ask people to divide on your question.
00:20:02.540 Not on the liberal questions.
00:20:03.620 A careful, thoughtful challenge to lockdownism
00:20:06.800 and travel bans and school madness
00:20:09.420 would appeal to a lot of people.
00:20:11.920 There's no science backing masks for kids.
00:20:14.300 It's the opposite, actually.
00:20:15.560 How about be skeptical?
00:20:16.600 How about say, you know what?
00:20:17.520 Let's take the masks off kids.
00:20:21.000 And you know what?
00:20:21.940 A lot of people would say,
00:20:23.980 there's a common sense voice for me.
00:20:26.560 And those who would hate it, well,
00:20:29.160 at least they would talk about it
00:20:30.360 instead of some made-up controversy
00:20:32.420 of the liberal war room's planning.
00:20:35.220 They would make those choices by O'Toole
00:20:38.360 the controversies,
00:20:40.800 which would be a win for him.
00:20:43.040 Surely Donald Trump taught us that.
00:20:45.520 Those would be the controversies
00:20:46.560 instead of what the liberal war room has planned.
00:20:49.060 Racism, sexism, whatever they'll say
00:20:52.160 that's only losing for the conservatives.
00:20:54.420 So that's my best advice.
00:20:55.460 It's populist.
00:20:57.180 It's conservative.
00:20:58.380 It recognizes that the media party
00:20:59.940 is partisan and an enemy of O'Toole,
00:21:02.340 even though he's still obviously
00:21:03.860 in love with him.
00:21:04.900 It's an unrequited love, Aaron.
00:21:07.180 And it realizes that being an echo
00:21:09.020 of liberal party policy,
00:21:10.340 it's not working.
00:21:11.660 You can see that in the polls.
00:21:13.000 No one trusts it.
00:21:14.200 Neither conservatives nor liberals.
00:21:17.300 Right now, O'Toole is on track
00:21:18.800 to be crushed in the upcoming election.
00:21:21.900 How about if he's going to lose,
00:21:24.440 at least go down fighting?
00:21:26.940 But really, as Pierre Polyev shows us
00:21:28.900 and as Ron DeSantis,
00:21:30.500 the governor of Florida, shows us,
00:21:32.300 being a strong, fighting conservative,
00:21:34.940 well, he might actually win.
00:21:37.580 Stay with us, Ron.
00:21:39.960 Some governments in Canada
00:21:59.380 are discussing legislation
00:22:00.740 which would make COVID-19 vaccinations mandatory.
00:22:04.240 And the idea of vaccine passports
00:22:05.980 to travel, shop, go to the mall,
00:22:08.100 and go to movies or concerts
00:22:09.300 are being discussed
00:22:10.140 by global governments around the world.
00:22:12.880 Canadians are rightly concerned.
00:22:15.620 A recent poll asked more than 5,600 Canadians
00:22:18.120 if they were in favor of a vaccine passport,
00:22:20.900 and 66% responded they were against the idea.
00:22:24.060 Some provinces are saying
00:22:27.380 they won't make vaccines mandatory,
00:22:29.120 but that there will be consequences
00:22:30.360 for not taking the new COVID shot.
00:22:32.460 Well, there you have it,
00:22:33.140 a new video from our friends
00:22:34.660 at the Justice Center
00:22:35.760 for Constitutional Freedom.
00:22:37.540 That's only a snippet of it.
00:22:38.980 The full version is 18 minutes.
00:22:41.800 And who better to tell us about that video
00:22:43.480 and their latest updates
00:22:44.880 than their boss, John Carpe.
00:22:47.360 He joins us now via Skype.
00:22:48.900 John, great to see you again.
00:22:51.020 Even when I don't see you on our show,
00:22:54.060 I read about you in the news
00:22:56.380 because you are fighting for freedom
00:22:59.060 in many jurisdictions,
00:23:01.320 provincially, federally.
00:23:03.140 You're fighting for individuals.
00:23:04.680 You're fighting for churches.
00:23:06.220 In fact, it was your work
00:23:07.760 with the Justice Center
00:23:08.640 that inspired our own
00:23:10.620 Fight the Fines Civil Liberties program,
00:23:13.240 but you guys are the masters of it.
00:23:16.480 It's great to have you back here.
00:23:17.820 Give us an update.
00:23:20.180 Well, you know,
00:23:21.340 the vaccines is becoming
00:23:23.760 a very scary topic
00:23:24.760 because more and more
00:23:25.820 you hear politicians.
00:23:27.920 We've got clips
00:23:28.900 on our 18-minute video
00:23:31.180 of the Ontario Health Minister
00:23:34.060 talking about,
00:23:35.780 you know,
00:23:35.960 while we're not going to
00:23:36.660 forcibly inject anybody
00:23:38.200 with the vaccine,
00:23:39.580 however,
00:23:40.580 you could be barred
00:23:41.760 from shopping malls
00:23:43.400 and schools
00:23:44.360 and movie theaters.
00:23:46.080 And so this is scary.
00:23:47.740 And then all over the world,
00:23:49.120 we hear people blithely,
00:23:50.900 casually talking about,
00:23:53.440 oh, sure,
00:23:53.920 we'll just all get
00:23:54.560 a vaccine passport
00:23:55.440 and we'll all be safe.
00:23:57.160 And it's just frightening
00:23:59.620 that we're very quickly
00:24:01.160 moving towards a world
00:24:02.600 of kind of two-tiered citizenship.
00:24:05.740 There will be the vaccinated
00:24:06.820 who can travel internationally
00:24:09.880 and get onto airplanes
00:24:11.080 and put their kids in schools
00:24:12.720 and go into any store
00:24:14.320 or business of their choice,
00:24:15.820 go to any, you know,
00:24:17.580 holiday resort,
00:24:18.620 any hotel.
00:24:19.660 And then you have
00:24:20.280 these second-class,
00:24:22.540 non-vaccinated people
00:24:24.020 that are stripped
00:24:25.980 of a whole bunch
00:24:26.600 of rights and freedoms
00:24:27.440 that are available
00:24:28.260 to everybody else.
00:24:29.760 And if I had said this
00:24:31.020 three months ago
00:24:31.660 or six months ago,
00:24:33.180 you could say,
00:24:34.480 that rightfully say
00:24:35.880 that I was being paranoid.
00:24:37.140 But with so many politicians
00:24:39.380 in so many countries
00:24:40.880 talking about this
00:24:41.840 very publicly,
00:24:42.680 very openly,
00:24:43.280 you've got a lot more
00:24:46.540 going on with
00:24:47.180 the Biden administration
00:24:48.420 in the U.S.
00:24:50.240 I'm sure the rebel
00:24:50.960 is covering that
00:24:52.280 and what they're talking about
00:24:53.660 and what they're doing.
00:24:54.940 So this is a very grave,
00:24:57.980 serious threat.
00:24:59.380 And it's not 20 years
00:25:00.680 or 10 years down the road.
00:25:01.820 It could be months
00:25:02.340 down the road.
00:25:03.260 Yeah.
00:25:03.660 Well, in fact,
00:25:04.520 New York State
00:25:05.200 has already rolled out
00:25:06.340 its digital vaccine passport.
00:25:08.900 I note that it's being hosted
00:25:10.200 by IBM,
00:25:11.000 which has done work
00:25:12.900 in the Chinese province
00:25:14.340 of Xinjiang.
00:25:15.740 That's where the Uyghur
00:25:16.680 Muslim minorities are.
00:25:19.320 In,
00:25:20.120 according to Chinese newspapers,
00:25:22.940 IBM's digital work there
00:25:24.440 included public security
00:25:26.620 and public health.
00:25:28.860 That is what,
00:25:29.740 you know,
00:25:30.000 has been called
00:25:30.480 the social credit system
00:25:31.980 of the surveillance state
00:25:33.540 of China.
00:25:34.140 I am absolutely sure
00:25:36.220 that what IBM learned
00:25:38.100 by spying on the Uyghur Muslims
00:25:41.080 in China,
00:25:42.060 it's now deploying
00:25:43.800 against New Yorkers.
00:25:46.080 And it's as plain as day,
00:25:48.180 you're fighting it,
00:25:49.700 we're journalistically fighting it.
00:25:51.520 I don't know if there's
00:25:52.080 a legal fight to be had yet
00:25:53.500 because I don't think
00:25:54.100 it's a fact in Canada yet.
00:25:56.400 But I don't see
00:25:57.680 voices from the
00:25:59.360 civil liberties left.
00:26:00.880 I don't see the
00:26:01.700 Canadian Civil Liberties Association.
00:26:03.260 I don't see
00:26:04.020 disabilities activists.
00:26:06.080 I mean,
00:26:06.620 all the people
00:26:07.540 who would be freaking out
00:26:09.020 if you had some
00:26:10.580 sort of
00:26:11.200 passport needed
00:26:12.780 for,
00:26:13.300 let's say,
00:26:13.740 AIDS.
00:26:14.800 Have you taken
00:26:15.500 the AIDS vaccine?
00:26:17.040 Well, here's,
00:26:17.920 can I interrupt you?
00:26:18.920 Yes.
00:26:19.200 Here's another great irony
00:26:20.880 is that,
00:26:21.840 you know,
00:26:22.520 convicted rapists,
00:26:24.280 convicted
00:26:24.700 pedophiles,
00:26:27.100 people actually found guilty
00:26:28.780 of sexually molesting children,
00:26:30.720 they're all
00:26:31.180 entitled to
00:26:32.660 privacy
00:26:33.520 and you don't have
00:26:34.920 to wear
00:26:35.280 some sort of a badge
00:26:36.460 or a stamp on your forehead.
00:26:37.640 You don't need to produce
00:26:38.500 some kind of a document,
00:26:40.380 right?
00:26:40.640 And this is justified
00:26:41.880 under privacy rights
00:26:43.000 and,
00:26:43.480 you know,
00:26:44.060 arguably that's
00:26:44.980 the right approach.
00:26:46.420 But,
00:26:46.800 you know,
00:26:47.480 this is like,
00:26:48.800 you know,
00:26:49.100 now you
00:26:50.000 haven't had your vaccine
00:26:51.860 so you can't use
00:26:53.400 public transport
00:26:55.140 or you can't get
00:26:56.280 onto an airplane.
00:26:57.420 And I should,
00:26:58.500 I should qualify
00:26:59.260 because it's important.
00:27:00.940 I am not an anti-vaxxer.
00:27:02.900 I had all four of my kids
00:27:04.300 were vaccinated
00:27:05.640 as babies
00:27:06.340 and at other times
00:27:07.840 and I'm glad I got
00:27:08.580 the polio vaccine
00:27:10.060 when I was a baby.
00:27:11.280 So,
00:27:11.800 this is not an anti-vax
00:27:13.300 thing.
00:27:14.100 But when you have
00:27:15.400 a government coercion
00:27:17.080 to inject people
00:27:18.120 with something
00:27:18.640 that is inherently unsafe
00:27:20.160 and I find it appalling
00:27:21.640 and outrageous
00:27:22.240 that you have
00:27:23.340 chief medical officers
00:27:25.300 blithely describing
00:27:27.220 these vaccines
00:27:28.560 as,
00:27:29.980 quote,
00:27:30.460 safe.
00:27:31.540 And here's the problem.
00:27:33.440 You don't know
00:27:34.300 if a vaccine
00:27:34.980 is safe
00:27:35.740 until it can take
00:27:37.820 two years,
00:27:38.420 five years,
00:27:38.940 10,
00:27:39.160 15 years.
00:27:40.060 You have to see
00:27:40.860 the long-term effects.
00:27:42.580 And there are
00:27:43.720 so many examples
00:27:45.040 in medicine
00:27:46.680 of drugs,
00:27:47.880 vaccines,
00:27:48.680 treatments
00:27:48.980 where the negative effects
00:27:50.860 are not known
00:27:51.720 until
00:27:52.560 two,
00:27:53.320 three,
00:27:53.760 four,
00:27:54.220 five years later
00:27:54.960 and then you have
00:27:55.620 a recall
00:27:56.100 and you have
00:27:56.620 all kinds
00:27:56.960 of lawsuits.
00:27:58.540 And you don't need
00:27:59.340 to be a doctor
00:27:59.920 to know
00:28:00.500 that a vaccine
00:28:02.140 that has been
00:28:02.940 subjected to
00:28:03.680 six months
00:28:04.220 of testing,
00:28:05.340 well,
00:28:05.600 it might not
00:28:06.040 be dangerous,
00:28:06.880 I'm not making
00:28:07.360 that claim,
00:28:08.160 but to declare
00:28:08.860 it safe,
00:28:09.680 I think is just
00:28:10.720 negligent
00:28:11.760 on the part
00:28:12.320 of supposed
00:28:13.220 medical
00:28:14.380 professionals
00:28:15.320 telling us
00:28:16.520 that something
00:28:17.020 subjected to
00:28:17.800 six months
00:28:18.320 of testing
00:28:18.840 only
00:28:19.300 is safe.
00:28:21.440 I mean,
00:28:21.700 that is reckless
00:28:22.720 and it's outrageous
00:28:23.960 that any doctor
00:28:24.780 would say that.
00:28:25.620 Yeah,
00:28:26.040 I mean,
00:28:26.600 the AstraZeneca
00:28:27.420 vaccine,
00:28:28.180 and I'm not
00:28:29.240 an expert in it,
00:28:30.280 but I can see
00:28:31.140 that it was called
00:28:32.420 safe,
00:28:33.320 then it was called
00:28:33.920 unsafe,
00:28:34.900 then it was called
00:28:35.500 safe for only
00:28:36.260 certain ages,
00:28:36.940 and I think the
00:28:37.560 latest is
00:28:38.500 if you're between
00:28:39.620 the ages of 55
00:28:40.720 and 64,
00:28:41.760 which is a
00:28:42.240 very odd
00:28:43.380 and precise range,
00:28:45.000 it's considered safe,
00:28:46.620 and what about
00:28:47.740 someone who just
00:28:48.600 took it
00:28:49.120 like a few weeks
00:28:50.180 ago?
00:28:51.460 I mean,
00:28:52.060 the science
00:28:53.080 is changing
00:28:53.780 so quickly.
00:28:54.580 Earlier in the show,
00:28:55.400 I read through
00:28:55.940 Pfizer's big
00:28:57.480 announcement yesterday
00:28:58.380 about their first
00:28:59.940 trial on children,
00:29:01.900 which I found
00:29:02.780 terrifying,
00:29:03.460 and children,
00:29:04.380 if you go to
00:29:05.020 Teresa Tam's
00:29:05.740 website,
00:29:06.720 represent 0.0%
00:29:09.340 of COVID deaths.
00:29:11.360 It is like
00:29:12.680 0.02,
00:29:14.440 or like it's
00:29:14.880 such a tiny,
00:29:15.820 tiny number,
00:29:16.460 it shows up
00:29:17.160 as 0.0
00:29:17.960 on a chart.
00:29:19.780 They say
00:29:20.840 that the first
00:29:22.260 round of testing
00:29:23.000 on kids
00:29:23.560 is just fine,
00:29:25.500 but they're
00:29:26.060 going to monitor
00:29:26.580 those kids
00:29:27.220 for the next
00:29:27.680 two years,
00:29:28.420 they say,
00:29:29.460 but they want
00:29:30.940 to use it
00:29:31.540 for school children
00:29:32.360 this fall.
00:29:33.400 So Pfizer
00:29:34.060 is saying
00:29:34.980 they're not
00:29:36.760 going to be
00:29:37.080 done testing
00:29:37.700 this on kids
00:29:38.320 for two more
00:29:38.860 years,
00:29:39.340 but they want
00:29:40.480 it used
00:29:40.960 this school
00:29:42.580 year.
00:29:43.140 How can you
00:29:43.800 reconcile that?
00:29:46.020 There is
00:29:46.800 no COVID
00:29:47.940 poses no threat
00:29:49.320 to children.
00:29:50.380 That is now
00:29:50.860 well established.
00:29:51.920 We are into
00:29:52.760 our 13th month
00:29:53.860 of lockdowns
00:29:55.700 and there's
00:29:57.220 no excuse
00:29:57.680 to have
00:29:58.240 public policies
00:29:59.460 and laws
00:30:00.700 that are based
00:30:01.500 on the fears
00:30:02.180 of March
00:30:03.500 of 2020
00:30:04.180 as opposed
00:30:04.780 to the facts
00:30:05.540 of April
00:30:06.620 2013.
00:30:07.860 There's no
00:30:08.120 excuse for it.
00:30:09.200 Kids are not
00:30:09.720 threatened by this.
00:30:10.920 Kids are not
00:30:11.580 spreaders.
00:30:14.120 The Justice
00:30:14.480 Center is also,
00:30:15.160 we've got a new
00:30:15.660 report coming
00:30:16.260 out in the
00:30:17.940 weeks ahead
00:30:18.540 going through
00:30:19.820 some of this
00:30:20.320 COVID data
00:30:21.520 and a sneak
00:30:24.220 preview on just
00:30:25.140 one small
00:30:25.600 point.
00:30:26.660 The annual
00:30:28.160 flu leaves
00:30:29.860 99.98%
00:30:33.360 of Canadians
00:30:34.520 alive each
00:30:35.740 year.
00:30:36.640 So every year
00:30:37.820 the annual
00:30:38.220 flu takes
00:30:39.740 0.0002
00:30:42.120 of Canada's
00:30:43.280 population.
00:30:44.900 COVID,
00:30:45.940 in slight
00:30:47.360 contrast,
00:30:48.680 leaves alive
00:30:49.360 99.96%
00:30:53.200 of the
00:30:53.880 Canadian
00:30:54.120 population.
00:30:55.420 So COVID
00:30:55.820 is taking
00:30:56.680 0.0004
00:30:58.600 of Canada's
00:31:00.000 population.
00:31:00.940 So you could
00:31:01.480 truthfully say
00:31:02.200 that COVID
00:31:03.480 is twice as
00:31:04.080 deadly as the
00:31:04.580 annual flu.
00:31:05.180 That might be
00:31:05.640 true.
00:31:06.460 But when you
00:31:07.320 really look at
00:31:07.880 it, you're
00:31:08.100 looking at
00:31:08.600 a survival
00:31:09.840 rate of
00:31:10.860 99.96%
00:31:13.780 versus 99.98%.
00:31:16.280 This is the
00:31:17.300 virus that we're
00:31:17.880 dealing with and
00:31:18.520 it does not
00:31:19.020 warrant any
00:31:19.920 measures that
00:31:21.420 are destroying
00:31:22.060 our economy and
00:31:22.820 destroying society.
00:31:24.460 Well, listen,
00:31:25.600 I agree with you
00:31:27.020 on these vaccines.
00:31:27.880 I know you will
00:31:28.560 be keeping a
00:31:29.380 keen eye out
00:31:30.520 for vaccine
00:31:32.180 passports.
00:31:32.640 One thing that
00:31:33.500 would bother me
00:31:34.200 is, so you've
00:31:35.760 got to disclose
00:31:37.160 a personal and
00:31:38.460 private health
00:31:39.500 data point about
00:31:41.080 yourself just to
00:31:41.800 any bouncer,
00:31:42.700 anyone on the
00:31:43.420 street.
00:31:43.660 You've got to
00:31:43.980 tell them an
00:31:45.120 answer to a
00:31:45.720 question that's
00:31:46.280 very personal.
00:31:46.840 By the way,
00:31:47.180 you might have,
00:31:48.020 like in the
00:31:48.460 same Pfizer
00:31:49.160 press release I
00:31:49.980 read today,
00:31:50.580 it said if you
00:31:51.420 are immunocompromised
00:31:52.920 or immunosuppressed
00:31:53.960 and there are
00:31:54.780 people who should
00:31:55.800 not take it,
00:31:56.960 the drug companies
00:31:57.700 say don't take it,
00:31:59.160 so they can't get
00:31:59.960 on a plane now?
00:32:01.220 I mean, there's
00:32:02.040 so many bizarre
00:32:02.800 things.
00:32:03.520 Let me put that
00:32:04.060 aside for a
00:32:04.580 second though.
00:32:05.180 Can you give our
00:32:05.960 viewers a roundup
00:32:07.280 of some of the,
00:32:08.800 give me the three
00:32:09.880 most interesting
00:32:10.780 cases you're
00:32:12.380 working on?
00:32:12.960 I know there's a
00:32:13.600 ton and folks
00:32:14.220 can go to
00:32:15.280 jccf.ca,
00:32:17.680 that's the
00:32:18.420 Justice Center's
00:32:19.140 website, you can
00:32:20.260 check it out there,
00:32:21.360 they are a CRA
00:32:22.860 compliant charity,
00:32:24.700 so don't be shy
00:32:25.560 about chipping in
00:32:26.520 a few bucks to
00:32:27.160 them if you want
00:32:27.680 to help their
00:32:28.060 good work.
00:32:29.320 John, give me
00:32:29.860 your three most
00:32:31.600 interesting new
00:32:32.540 cases.
00:32:34.300 Okay, the big
00:32:35.160 three.
00:32:35.960 April the
00:32:36.780 14th, we
00:32:37.620 are in
00:32:38.400 federal court
00:32:39.280 challenging
00:32:39.960 Trudeau's
00:32:40.700 prison hotel
00:32:41.480 policy, or
00:32:42.820 hotel prison
00:32:43.380 policy, whichever
00:32:44.140 way.
00:32:45.260 That's going to
00:32:45.940 be very
00:32:46.260 interesting, we're
00:32:46.860 applying for an
00:32:47.460 injunction on
00:32:48.220 April the 14th is
00:32:49.200 when that
00:32:49.760 application will
00:32:50.480 be heard.
00:32:52.360 The week
00:32:53.180 thereafter, we're
00:32:54.020 in court in
00:32:54.820 Manitoba, the
00:32:55.560 last 10 days of
00:32:56.340 April, challenging
00:32:57.520 lockdown policies in
00:32:58.920 Manitoba.
00:32:59.680 We look forward to
00:33:00.500 cross-examining the
00:33:01.640 chief medical
00:33:02.160 officer of
00:33:02.780 Manitoba.
00:33:03.300 Manitoba, and
00:33:04.660 then shortly
00:33:05.760 thereafter, we're
00:33:06.720 in court in
00:33:07.360 Alberta.
00:33:07.840 We look forward to
00:33:08.440 cross-examining
00:33:09.280 Alberta's chief
00:33:10.500 medical officer,
00:33:11.760 Dina Hinshaw, in
00:33:12.980 court at the
00:33:14.060 trial of Pastor
00:33:14.760 James Coates, and
00:33:16.580 it's just exciting
00:33:18.100 that these chief
00:33:18.860 medical officers,
00:33:19.900 after 13 months
00:33:20.960 of getting easy
00:33:22.780 softball media
00:33:23.920 questions tossed
00:33:24.800 at them, they're
00:33:26.200 going to have to
00:33:26.800 be asked, they
00:33:27.860 will be asked some
00:33:28.600 very tough questions
00:33:30.000 in court, and so
00:33:32.060 those are the big
00:33:32.600 three coming up in
00:33:34.040 the next month.
00:33:34.700 That's extremely
00:33:35.480 exciting, you're
00:33:36.940 correct, they have
00:33:38.020 never been asked
00:33:39.260 tough questions, the
00:33:40.380 media are
00:33:40.960 stenographers or
00:33:42.540 cheerleaders, not
00:33:43.780 skeptics and
00:33:44.720 critics.
00:33:46.540 So many of their
00:33:47.540 models have proven
00:33:48.640 false over time, so
00:33:50.720 many of their
00:33:51.100 predictions have been
00:33:51.960 proven false, many
00:33:53.420 of them have
00:33:53.940 confessed that it's
00:33:54.960 not based on science
00:33:56.020 or medicine, but
00:33:56.860 rather just on
00:33:58.040 public opinion.
00:33:58.780 I can hardly wait
00:34:00.240 for those, and I
00:34:01.180 hope that at least
00:34:02.780 part of those will
00:34:03.700 be viewable by the
00:34:05.680 public, because we
00:34:06.500 would certainly like
00:34:07.340 to cover those
00:34:08.340 journalistically.
00:34:09.940 As you know, we've
00:34:11.020 sent reporters every
00:34:12.620 weekend to the
00:34:13.700 Grace Life Church of
00:34:14.780 Pastor Coates, and
00:34:15.680 Sheila Gunnery's done
00:34:16.480 a great job there.
00:34:17.680 Let me ask you one
00:34:18.540 last question, because
00:34:19.560 I know you're
00:34:20.040 representing a few
00:34:20.840 churches.
00:34:21.580 We are too, we
00:34:22.280 got a church in
00:34:23.500 Prince Albert,
00:34:24.120 Saskatchewan, but I
00:34:25.140 think you're really
00:34:25.980 carrying the heaviest
00:34:28.280 load.
00:34:28.780 Let me put this to
00:34:31.160 you.
00:34:31.900 At Grace Life Church,
00:34:33.060 I don't know if you
00:34:33.520 saw Sheila's video, some
00:34:35.800 Alberta health officers
00:34:37.640 and some cops demanded
00:34:39.900 entry to the church on
00:34:41.580 the weekend, and the
00:34:43.120 church elder said, no,
00:34:45.020 you can't disturb us, you
00:34:46.520 don't have a search
00:34:47.100 warrant, you're not
00:34:47.700 welcome, and by the
00:34:48.920 way, the criminal code
00:34:50.360 actually bans disturbing
00:34:52.260 a religious assemblage,
00:34:55.740 you know, a church.
00:34:56.360 You can't disturb or
00:34:57.640 interrupt a church.
00:34:58.580 So those church
00:34:59.480 elders in Grace Life
00:35:00.420 held the line, and I'm
00:35:01.920 really glad they did, and
00:35:03.000 it was a pleasure to
00:35:03.760 see, but there are other
00:35:05.940 churches in Canada,
00:35:07.100 including a Baptist
00:35:07.900 church in Calgary, that
00:35:11.300 either don't know how or
00:35:13.140 don't, or that don't win
00:35:16.100 the staring contest, and I
00:35:18.160 see armed police walking
00:35:21.800 right into churches in the
00:35:24.140 middle of services, guns in
00:35:26.260 their holsters, taking
00:35:28.000 photos, and I'm screaming
00:35:30.040 out, you and what search
00:35:31.420 warrant?
00:35:32.080 And I know section 176.2 of
00:35:34.000 the criminal code, do not
00:35:34.920 interrupt or disturb any
00:35:35.940 religious assemblage, that's
00:35:37.220 a crime.
00:35:38.260 John, I mean, maybe I'm
00:35:39.140 putting you on the spot
00:35:40.100 here, but when I see that
00:35:42.260 I want those officers
00:35:44.720 charged with a crime.
00:35:45.720 If I did that, I'd be
00:35:48.280 charged with a crime.
00:35:50.200 Is there, and maybe I'm
00:35:51.640 putting you on the spot
00:35:52.280 with a surprise question,
00:35:53.420 it just came to my mind.
00:35:55.040 What can we do about cops
00:35:56.560 and health bullies barging
00:35:58.660 into churches, synagogues,
00:36:00.500 mosques, whatever they're
00:36:01.300 doing, and disrupting?
00:36:02.980 I know they're doing this to
00:36:03.780 Jewish synagogues in
00:36:04.640 Montreal, too.
00:36:06.880 Well, as a bare minimum,
00:36:08.280 those churches could file
00:36:09.600 formal police complaints
00:36:11.660 against those officers.
00:36:13.920 That's a bare minimum.
00:36:15.740 I don't have enough criminal
00:36:17.220 law background to be able
00:36:19.620 to answer whether, you
00:36:21.760 know, to what extent, if
00:36:22.840 any, are police in some
00:36:24.660 situations entitled to
00:36:26.360 break the law while they
00:36:28.680 are pursuing law
00:36:30.140 enforcement.
00:36:31.600 An experienced criminal
00:36:33.120 defense lawyer with
00:36:34.020 specialty in that field
00:36:34.980 would know the answer.
00:36:36.120 I mean, certainly police
00:36:38.020 are allowed to break speed
00:36:38.940 limits when necessary for
00:36:40.620 carrying out their duty.
00:36:43.180 You know, would that same
00:36:44.060 principle apply to police
00:36:45.860 disrupting a religious
00:36:47.540 service, which you
00:36:48.200 correctly point out, it is
00:36:49.360 a criminal code offense
00:36:50.760 to disrupt a religious
00:36:52.860 service.
00:36:54.060 And my first thought is,
00:36:55.240 you know, is this
00:36:56.000 necessary for law
00:36:56.960 enforcement?
00:36:57.560 I mean, is it necessary
00:36:58.300 for the police to
00:37:00.000 disrupt a church service
00:37:01.480 by walking in there with
00:37:02.460 their guns?
00:37:03.220 Or could they carry out
00:37:05.020 their law enforcement
00:37:05.900 duties without doing
00:37:08.620 that?
00:37:08.960 And my guess would be
00:37:09.800 that they would be quite
00:37:11.480 capable of, you know,
00:37:13.440 if they really wanted to,
00:37:14.580 issuing tickets to people
00:37:17.420 after they leave the
00:37:19.240 church.
00:37:20.240 So, but the starting
00:37:21.100 point definitely would be
00:37:22.180 to file a formal
00:37:23.480 complaint against the
00:37:24.680 officers that are
00:37:25.860 engaging in that
00:37:27.080 criminal behavior of
00:37:29.200 disrupting a church
00:37:30.060 service.
00:37:30.860 Yeah.
00:37:31.180 You know, I think if I
00:37:33.140 were to try and defend
00:37:34.340 the cops, they probably
00:37:36.260 never in a million years
00:37:38.020 would have imagined they
00:37:39.400 would be dispatched to
00:37:41.220 give a health order to a
00:37:42.660 church.
00:37:43.320 That's not what they
00:37:44.420 learned when they went to
00:37:46.120 the police academy.
00:37:47.400 They thought they were
00:37:48.220 going to fight crime.
00:37:49.640 So they're being asked to
00:37:51.000 do bizarre things.
00:37:53.040 They're following orders and
00:37:55.120 obeying.
00:37:56.180 They're probably in uncharted
00:37:58.160 territory themselves.
00:37:59.780 They probably don't know
00:38:00.620 what they're doing.
00:38:01.820 Their chief is probably
00:38:02.820 under enormous political
00:38:04.520 pressure by authoritarian
00:38:07.240 mayors.
00:38:07.960 So if I were to defend the
00:38:10.320 cops and I don't really
00:38:11.240 want to, I would say they
00:38:12.820 probably have no bloody
00:38:13.940 clue what they're doing and
00:38:15.480 they're probably being
00:38:16.080 ordered to do so for
00:38:17.380 political reasons, which is
00:38:19.200 all the more reason I
00:38:20.520 think that any cop and any
00:38:23.200 health officer who steps
00:38:24.300 into a church or synagogue
00:38:25.440 should be slapped with some
00:38:27.260 sort of action, complaint,
00:38:29.800 private prosecution, because
00:38:31.400 they need to like a splash of
00:38:32.900 cold water to be shaken out
00:38:35.260 of and say, what are you
00:38:36.360 doing?
00:38:37.420 Don't you see what you're
00:38:38.740 doing?
00:38:39.160 And I think only the law
00:38:40.400 will do that.
00:38:41.680 So it's just an idea.
00:38:42.940 And I know we're talking
00:38:44.460 live here and I didn't give
00:38:46.240 you this in background, but
00:38:47.940 I hope it's something you
00:38:49.080 keep in the back of your
00:38:49.820 mind because it burns me up
00:38:51.840 when I see cops with guns
00:38:53.920 walking into churches.
00:38:54.960 And in Calgary, they had
00:38:56.580 some guy go in with a huge
00:38:58.080 backpack that an ex-cop
00:38:59.900 said that's probably a
00:39:02.040 surveillance equipment in the
00:39:03.580 backpack that IDs every
00:39:05.420 cell phone in the church.
00:39:06.780 So they probably went in
00:39:08.040 with this huge electronics
00:39:09.200 backpack to surreptitiously
00:39:11.460 just bam, bam, bam, bam,
00:39:12.680 bam, make a list of all
00:39:13.780 hundred people in the
00:39:14.520 church for later
00:39:15.760 prosecution.
00:39:16.880 I don't know if that's a
00:39:17.800 warrantless search, but
00:39:19.040 there's a lot of creepy
00:39:20.140 things being done to
00:39:21.260 churches by a lot of
00:39:22.880 creepy police chiefs and
00:39:24.700 creepy politicians and
00:39:26.340 creepy public health
00:39:27.460 officers.
00:39:28.160 And you are on the front
00:39:30.060 lines there.
00:39:30.720 So I wish you much
00:39:31.960 strength and good luck.
00:39:34.700 Okay.
00:39:35.660 Good, good speaking with
00:39:36.660 you, Ezra.
00:39:37.740 Thanks for having me on
00:39:38.420 your show.
00:39:38.960 Well, it's a pleasure.
00:39:39.660 Can I just give your
00:39:40.360 website out one more
00:39:41.300 time?
00:39:43.340 JCCF.ca.
00:39:45.200 You got to go there.
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00:39:49.420 John, keep it up.
00:39:51.400 Have a great day.
00:39:52.240 See you, Ezra.
00:39:52.760 There you have it.
00:39:53.340 John Carpe, one of the
00:39:54.220 good guys, that's for
00:39:54.940 sure.
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