Ontario doctors threatened with professional discipline if they dare to question pandemic policies
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Ontario doctors are being threatened with professional discipline if they dare to question pandemic policies. That's a police state, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show. Why should others go to jail when you won't give them an answer?
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Hello, my Rebels. Today I take you through a statement by Ontario's College of Physicians
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and Surgeons saying anyone who speaks out against the lockdowns, not just against masks or social
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distancing or vaccines, but against the lockdowns could be investigated for political or professional
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misconduct. It's crazy. I'll take you through this statement. You're not going to believe this was
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Tonight, Ontario doctors are threatened with professional discipline if they dare to question
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pandemic policies. That's a police state. It's May 7th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my
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You've heard the age-old motto of physicians, do no harm. Sounds pretty basic, almost too basic to
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even say. But of course, medical mistakes are a major cause of death. I don't just mean a botched
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surgery, but diagnosing something wrong or missing a diagnosis. And of course, anyone who knows a bit
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about the history of medicine, I mean, knows about practices like leeches or bloodletting.
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Here's a painting of a doctor applying leeches in the 18th century. I'm going to guess that did
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more harm than good. So do no harm is actually a pretty good motto for doctors, I think.
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But what is harm to an individual patient? Each patient is different. A doctor and his patient
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can together come up with an understanding of what the real problem is and what the best solution is
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for a patient that might be completely different than for another patient. That's what happens when
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a doctor's loyalty and attention are towards a patient individually rather than an aggregated mass of
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people. And there you have the difference between a doctor who actually has to solve a particular
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patient's problems, taking into account everything about that patient, between that real practicing
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doctor and those doctors who call themselves doctors but are actually non-practicing doctors
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who may have never practiced, may have never had a patient, certainly not practiced in many years,
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who are really politicians or bureaucrats with an MD, or quite often not even an MD, but rather a degree
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in public health, whatever that is. And that brings us to the Teresa Tams of the world, because
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no doctor who put his or her patient first would ever talk like this.
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I think the public has to know this is one of the worst case scenarios in terms of an infectious
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disease outbreak in that their cooperation is sought. If there are people who are non-compliant,
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there are definitely laws and public health powers that can quarantine people in mandatory settings.
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It's potential you could track people, put bracelets on their arms, have police and other setups to
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I think many doctors are conservative. I don't just mean that politically. I mean that in terms of
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do no harm. That's why doctors are skeptical of quacks and quackery. That's why medical doctors
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don't like pretend doctors or rival health ideologies like naturopathy. There's some snobbery
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that comes with that, but it is true that medical doctors do have a knowledge base that is beyond
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merely the common sense of the common man, even when augmented by the internet. Many doctors are
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conservative, but I have never heard of a public health official. I don't even want to call them
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doctors any more than Dr. Seuss with a doctor or that Jill Biden is a doctor. Sure, she's a doctor
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of education from the University of Delaware. Folks, if it's an emergency on an airplane and someone says
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there's a heart attack, is there a doctor on the plane? And you can't say, yeah, I'm coming to help.
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You probably shouldn't go around calling yourself a doctor all the time. So public health doctors
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are simply bureaucrats who use their medical degrees or their PhDs as appeals to authority.
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They make economic decisions or political decisions or these days police decisions
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completely outside the scope of medicine, but they insist you call them doctor because they're
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trading on the expert reputation of practicing medical doctors as if their advice on closing parks
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or banning kids or having police pull over cars or banning kids hockey tournaments while permitting
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NHL hockey tournaments, a baldly political decision as if that is a medically sound decision.
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And to criticize medicine as opposed to what it is. This is a political and lobbying decision.
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I'm getting a bit sick of these self-important doctators, to be honest.
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I like regular doctors. I think most people trust their own doctor. You can see a few brave ones who
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speak out. Calvin Decor in Ontario, very brave. Our friend Dr. Roger Hodkinson in Alberta. They get
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pounced on by their leftist authoritarian rivals. And that hasn't stopped the ones I've just mentioned
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yet. But look at this published by the largest regulator of doctors in Canada just a week ago.
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There have been isolated incidents of physicians using social media to spread blatant misinformation
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and undermine public health measures meant to protect all of us. In response to the college,
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this is the Ontario College of Physicians and Surgeons, released the statement below. The statement
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is intended to focus on professional behavior and is not intended to stifle a healthy public debate about
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how to best address aspects of the pandemic. Rather, our focus is on addressing those arguments that
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reject scientific evidence and seek to rouse emotions over reason. We continue to recognize
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the important roles physicians can play by advocating for change in a socially accountable manner.
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Okay, I'll read the statement below in a moment, but can you please tell me before I read the next part,
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which is the misinformation here? Saying that a mask works or saying that a mask doesn't work? I'm just
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using that as an example. Do you see my point? The facts have been changing, so say the experts.
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Theresa Thames' favorite line when caught flip-flopping is, the science is evolving. I've got to remember to
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use that excuse myself. Why didn't you take out the garbage desert? Oh, the science is evolving on the
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best time of day to take out. But seriously, the amount of junk science pumped out by official
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sources over the last 14 months is so crazy. Take the vaccines. The drug companies themselves
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say that certain vaccines need a booster shot within a certain short period of time. I don't know if that's
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accurate or not, but that's what the drug companies say, and that's what they've tested. The interval
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between the first dose and the second dose is what they put through their trials. But then,
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because Trudeau has so royally bungled vaccine procurement, the governments of Canada and the
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provinces have extended the interval way, way, way beyond what the drug companies recommended
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or even tested. The drug companies have, in fact, put up press releases saying, you know,
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we can't vouch for what you're doing there. Because Trudeau and the provinces wanted more people to get
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the first dose rather than wait until people got the second dose. Because to follow the prescription,
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as the drug companies have advised, would mean even fewer people in Canada getting their jab. So again,
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which version is the College of Physicians and Surgeons calling misinformation the official
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drug company point of view or Trudeau's point of view? I'm just wondering, okay, here's the official
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statement. The College is aware and concerned about the increase of misinformation circulating on social media
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and other platforms regarding physicians who are publicly contradicting public health orders
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and recommendations. Oh, right. So they're now banned from contradicting politicians and bureaucrats.
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That's what a health order is. It's a political order emanating from the state, not from a doctor,
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affirmed by politicians, enforced with the machinery of the state. Imagine telling doctors,
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and I mean real doctors, not just political foot soldiers, that you cannot contradict politicians
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and their orders and even their recommendations. What's that? As if you have to obey someone's
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recommendation. Wouldn't it be called an order if it was more than a recommendation? Let me read more.
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Physicians hold a unique position of trust within the public and have a professional responsibility to
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not communicate anti-vaccine, anti-masking, anti-distancing, and anti-lockdown statements,
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and or promoting unsupported, unproven treatments for COVID-19. Okay, now what does it mean to be
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anti-vaccine? What if you're against weird and unprescribed uses of the vaccine, like the made-up
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timing that Trudeau is recommending instead of Pfizer and what they say? Well, you know that
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different countries around the world have banned various vaccines at different points in time
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over the past few months, or paused production or recalled them. So there's a diversity of public
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health opinion, even amongst these deep state bureaucrats, politicians. But Ontario's College of
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Physicians and Surgeons is telling its own doctors that they must obey Doug Ford and his public health
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bureaucrats full stop. Anti-masking. Does that mean doctors can't tell kids with asthma not to wear a mask or
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or children for whom masks are inappropriate? Anti-lockdown. Lockdown is not a medical procedure.
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It's a political punishment. It's not medicine to put a lock on the door. And it leads to many medical
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harms. That's not debatable. People can say they'd rather have the mental depression and the suicide and
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substance abuse than other harms. Fine. But to simply say you cannot be against the lockdown,
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I'm sorry, that's not medicine anymore. That's not science anymore. And that's none of the College of
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Physicians damn business. I'll read more. Physicians must not make comments or provide advice that encourages
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the public to act contrary to public health orders and recommendations. Hang on, hang on,
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I said this a moment ago. So now even recommendations must be followed without question. Not just the
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laws, but the recommendations. Recommendations from that renowned fitness and health expert,
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the 300-pound Doug Ford. Got it. I'll read more. Physicians who put the public at risk
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may face an investigation by the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario and disciplinary action when
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warranted. Yeah. You know, there's nothing more gross than doctors in league with a police state.
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They do the most diabolical things. Public health doctors are suspect to begin with, but those who
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say real medical doctors with real patients have to shut up and do as politicians say, do as
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politicians recommend, can't speak out against a police lockdown. Well, those are the worst tyrants.
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I wouldn't compare them to what doctors did under Nazi Germany because that's just too far. That's
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too many degrees worse than where we are. And I don't want to casually compare people to the Nazis,
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but you can see the ultimate destination of when doctors subvert their own judgment and knowledge
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and morality and their patients care to whatever recommendations of the government is. Just so you
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know, any doctor who is investigated or charged by these creeps, go to fightthefines.com and we will
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Hey, welcome back. Well, for months, we've been talking about a looming threat of the liberal
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government regulating the internet. Actually for years, if you look at heritage minister,
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Stephen Gilboa's mandate letter, that's his job description officially handed to him by Trudeau.
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Point number one is for Gilboa to push money out to different news media and cultural organizations.
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We know that, the CBC and the media bailouts. But point number two, literally the second priority
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in Gilboa's job description, his mandate letter, as it's called, is to bring in sharp censorship
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of comments on the internet. I'm talking about Facebook posts, Twitter tweets, YouTube comments.
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In fact, the job description itself prescribes that this takedown has to happen within 24 hours
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and that the penalties should be financially severe. Not a lot of wiggle room there. Well,
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Gilboa has been slow walking this, but here it comes now. First in Bill C-10,
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and a follow-up legislation that has not yet been tabled. Incredibly, there seems to be some
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resistance, not just from the normally timid opposition, but even from professors from the
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media. It's quite incredible. Still, Trudeau and Gilboa seem to be holding the line. They
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want to censor the internet and they know they got to do it before the next election. Joining us now via
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Skype is our friend Andrew Lawton from the Andrew Lawton Show at tnc.news. Great to see you again, Andrew.
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Likewise. Here while we're still unregulated. Yeah. Well, I mean, we're regulated by big
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tech. I thought it was very creepy the other day when Facebook said their Supreme Court,
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I think that was actually the language they used. Facebook's Supreme Court upheld its decision to ban
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Donald Trump for life. I didn't know that Facebook had a Supreme Court and that it's binding law.
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They had their own impeachment process too. Yeah. They've impeached him, convicted him,
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and now he's lost the appeal to the Supreme Court. Amazing that these big tech companies are in so
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many ways operating like pseudo states with the amount of power they have now.
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Yeah. But of course, like say courts in China or North Korea, they may have the simulation of a
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court, but there is only an autocrat who decides. Like if Xi Jinping has an opinion, the Chinese Supreme
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Court will just do it. Mark Zuckerberg will just do what he wants. It really is an autocracy. It's
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funny that they are appropriating the language of the state. They are bigger than many states,
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but let's talk about Canada because Bill C-10, and there's a second bill on its way,
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as you may know, that Gilboa is terrifying in. But let's talk about C-10. Tell me some of the
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battles in Parliament. It's refreshing to see Parliament actually stand up to Trudeau for once.
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Give us an update on that. Yeah. So, I mean, the simplest way to describe it is that we have a
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regulatory body, the Canadian Radio, Television and Telecommunications Commission, that regulates
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TV stations and radio stations. And Minister Gilboa says, well, their whole purpose is not to regulate
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content. No, but it is to regulate who is permitted to operate as a radio station, as a television
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station, and as a telecommunications provider. And the reason for that is based on infrastructure.
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There's only so much bandwidth, so to speak. They call it telecom spectrum. Government has been the
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one that distributes these things to companies. What they want to do now is extend the definition
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of these terrestrial media to include the internet and not just the infrastructure of the internet,
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but the actual content that goes out over the web. And that's why C-10 is so dangerous,
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because it's starting to regulate now who can publish content as though it was just distributing a
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license to occupy a particular series of call letters or a particular frequency on an AM or FM
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dial. And originally, the government put in this exemption that said, this is not going to apply
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to user-generated content, to videos that you post online, to things that I might tweet, to, you know,
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cat memes or something like that. But the reality is that anything that regulates who can be a publisher
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is inherently going to regulate what can be published. And Minister Gilbo has talked in the past
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about the possibility of requiring licenses. He said that news outlets will be exempt from it.
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But then we also know, you and I personally know this, Ezra, the government right now has a very
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different definition of what a journalist is and what a news outlet is than what a normal person would
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approach that with. So I believe wholeheartedly that Rebel, that True North, that other competitors and
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colleagues we have are going to become regulated by C10, even though the government's trying to claim
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that it's only going after these big players like Facebook and Google.
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Yeah. You know, to say that you're only regulating a platform doesn't really mean anything. YouTube,
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as you can see in the name YouTube, it's user-generated, it's you that are creating the content. So
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there's really nothing to YouTube other than the creative work of millions of different users. So say you're
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regulating YouTube, but not its users, just doesn't make any sense. That's like saying
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I'm regulating the stage at the theater, but there's nothing to regulate without the people.
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And I should say that the Liberals have been playing games. They made amendments,
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and then in reaction to the backlash, they made other amendments. Let me read you a line from the
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National Post's Anya Karadalia, who's actually been pretty good at covering this stuff, I have to admit.
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Um, she reached out to Canada's leading expert on this, Michael Geist. He's a professor at the
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University of Ottawa, who I wouldn't call him left-wing or right-wing. He's just really skeptical
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of censorship. And he says that under the latest amendments by the Liberal MP, Julie DeBruson,
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quote, user-generated content is still considered a program that the CRTC has the authority to
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regulate. So they're treating not just my show and your show that we call shows. Like you say,
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a Twitter tweet, a Facebook. They're calling that a program as if it was like a Howard Stern radio
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interview that they have to crack down on or, you know, some, uh, sex or violence that they have
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to make sure doesn't come on until 8 PM at night. They will literally treat you, me, grandma, grandpa,
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whoever uses the internet as if we're a TV show and regulate us the same way. Obviously it's impossible.
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You have millions of pieces of content, impossible to regulate at all, Andrew. So they'll just regulate
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the things that bug them. They'll just go after the political critics that bother them. That's what
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is so obviously going to happen in my mind. Yeah. And you alluded to this earlier in the
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interview, and I know we're talking about C-10, but I think one of the profound failings in the
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conservatives right now in a lot of the media coverage has been not linking Bill C-10 with this
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other bill that's coming out. And I've called this a one-two punch on censorship. Everyone's focused on
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the one, no one's focused on the two. And that is a bill that minister Gilboa has promised that will
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regulate online so-called hate speech or online so-called harms. Now, people that are old enough
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will remember more than a decade ago when people like you, our friend Mark Stein, staked huge amounts
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of political capital, of money, of time to fight what was then called Bill, uh, sections 13 of the
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Canadian human rights act. This was a section that made it an offense to communicate so-called hateful
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content on the internet. Well, the liberals did a huge, uh, consultation process in which they came
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up with a report that said, we need to bring this back, but bring it back in a way that gives it more
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power and more authority to go after content posted on social media. And the reason why that's relevant to
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C-10 is because what C-10 does is lays the regulatory framework for all of the areas that government can
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crack down on. And then this other bill will sneak in through the middle and start regulating the type
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of content. And all of a sudden the government has made it so that your online posts on Twitter,
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on Facebook, on TikTok, on YouTube, on a cooking blog are all subject to government regulation
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on a definition of hate speech that has still never been defined. Yeah. Um, you know, it's funny
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because at, uh, a Canada 2020, that's the liberal party sort of think tank. So it's, it, it really is
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a creature of the liberals. Um, uh, Gilboa talking to the same reporter, Anya Caridalia said that one of the
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the things he wants to stop is private citizens being able to taunt politicians. Now I, I think
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that taunting like an insult, I think that's what taunting is a kind of insult. Um, you know, we want
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to be polite where appropriate, but it shouldn't be allowed against the law to taunt a politician. In
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fact, if there's anyone you should taunt, it's a politician. That's what we do in, in a democracy.
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We don't take up weapons and arms and revolution. We taunt people, we debate people, we criticize
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people, but that is exactly what Gilboa says he wants to crack down on. He specifically says
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criticism of politicians here. Take a look at this clip from when he said that to Canada 2020.
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We've seen too many examples of public officials retreating from public service due to the hateful
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online content targeted towards themselves or even their families. There he is. I mean,
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I tell you, Andrew, it once upon a time, the media held the government to account. Now the government
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wants to hold the media to account. I think the government has quite enough power already. Thank you.
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Yeah. And remember that Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Google, whatever you think about these companies,
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they do not want to deal with these pesky regulations in a country that in the grand
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scheme of things is relatively insignificant as far as the user base is concerned. So my concern is
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that I think we've talked about this before. By regulating content, government is basically
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deputizing these companies to be censors. And it's a lot easier for them to just say when they get their
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annual report or their weekly or daily report from government of, you know, here's all the offending
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content to just zap it all instead of going down this process of, ooh, does this really meet the
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criterion? Is this really hateful? Is this harmful? And so on. And one thing that Minister Gilboa did
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say previously, and it was to French media, did not get a lot of pickup in English media,
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was that his definition of hate speech in this bill will be similar to the Watcott Supreme Court
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decision. Now, this is something that I'm assuming by your by your noise there, you're very familiar
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with Ezra and a lot of your listeners may. This is a Supreme Court decision in which the Supreme Court
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found that something can be true and still be hateful, that the truth is not a defense against
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a criticism of hate speech. And this is the basis on which the federal government plans to rest its
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definition of hate in a sweeping bill that will regulate internet speech. That's terrifying. Thank you
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for the reminder of that. And the idea of outsourcing censorship to the private sector. I mean, I'm not
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sure if you saw that, Andrew, but just in the last few days, PayPal without explanation or notice or
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appeal just yanked their credit card processing for us, which is an enormous loss. We don't know who
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complained. We don't know what the complaint was. We don't know what we allegedly did wrong. We don't
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know what the rule we allegedly broke was. There's no transparency, no appeal, no process,
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no rule of law, no basic administrative fairness. Even the worst government regulators, like the
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human rights commissions that I've been before, they at least say, well, here's what someone said
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about you. And do you have a side of the story? And they at least have a pretend judge, even if he's
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not particularly unbiased. So even the worst government regulator is better than the absolute silence of
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PayPal just nuking us. Or what I joked about earlier, Facebook's Supreme Court. And that's what
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worries me, is that Stephen Gilboa and Justin Trudeau have learned something. Don't censor through
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the government because then you have to muck around with that charter of rights. Delegate it to your
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friends in big tech. And by the way, they are all friends. The head of Facebook, senior people in all
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the tech companies did come from the Liberal Party, just like in the states that came from the Democrat
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party. Have your friends in social media just quietly delete your enemies. Don't fuss around
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in the courts. No one will even know what happened. That's, to me, the terrifying future. We had a
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little taste of that with PayPal. Last word to you. Do you think that this is going to go through?
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I mean, it's fun to see the newspapers and this one law professor, Michael Geist, speak out against
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it. That's more than normally happens. But do you think that's enough to stop the Liberal lust for
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censorship? Well, I hope so. And I mean, it's not a confidence motion. The NDP could vote against
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this without risking toppling the government and going into an election the NDP just is not ready
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for. The hate speech bill I'm less confident about not passing because I was in on those committee
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meetings when parliamentarians were grilling witnesses. And I remember just one notable example,
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when Lindsay Shepard, John Robson and Mark Stein were testifying, Randall Garrison,
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who was an NDP member of the committee, went his entire seven minutes that he had for questioning
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without asking a single question. He filibustered because he himself on this committee that was
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assessing speech regulations didn't want to platform people with whom he disagreed. So I don't have faith
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that opposition parties, with the exception of the conservatives, who cannot alone defeat legislation,
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are actually concerned with free speech more broadly. I feel they might on C10. But once it gets into the
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specifics of online hate speech, we've seen where their hands are in the past.
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Yeah. And as we showed the other day, even Alain Reyes, the Conservative Party critic on this file,
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as recently as November, was calling for Gilboa to censor harder. And he was the one who actually
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suggested on YouTube. It was quite shocking. Andrew, great to see you again. Keep up the fight.
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You guys at TNC.News are one of the few independent news organizations, and therefore,
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you're one of the few groups that can stand up against government censorship. You keep at it, my friend.
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Thank you so much. All right. There you have it. Andrew Lawton of The Andrew Lawton Show.
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You gotta support those guys. I mean, seriously, you can count on one hand's fingers the number of
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independent media in this country. And God forbid Andrew's voice is silenced or the other independent
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That I promise you. Well, that's our show for the day and that's it for the week. And
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