Pastor Art Pawlowski, Whistle Stop Cafe Arrest
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Pastor Arthur Pawlowski describes the brutal takedown by police on a live highway by the Calgary Police Service last Sunday, and the reaction of the rest of the country to it. The Rebel's own Sheila Gunn-Reed has all the details on what is shaping up to be nothing short of yet another lockdown fiasco for Premier Jason Kenney.
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Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you,
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in which we look back at some of the very best commentaries of the week by your favourite Rebels.
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Shocking and disgraceful, those two words pop immediately to mind
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when it comes to describing the brutal takedown of Pastor Arthur Pawlowski
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on a live highway by the Calgary Police Service last Sunday.
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Judging by the footage, you'd think Arthur was public enemy number one
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as opposed to a preacher who likes to help people in need.
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Our man in Calgary, Adam Seuss, shall explain all.
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All Chris Scott wants to do is open his restaurant and serve an appreciative clientele.
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This apparently makes him an enemy of the state,
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as the owner of the Whistle Stop Cafe was actually arrested recently.
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Sheila Gunn-Reed has all the nitty-gritty details
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on what is shaping up to be nothing short of yet another lockdown fiasco
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And letters, we get your letters, we get them every minute of every day.
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And you had plenty to say about a modest anti-lockdown protest
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that took place last Sunday in Vaughan, Ontario.
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But what made this protest interesting was that the York Regional Police
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claimed they were using Section 1 of the Canadian Constitution
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to eradicate the constitutional rights of Canadians.
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You know, silly little rights like, oh, freedom of speech and freedom of assembly.
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Those are your rebels now. Let's round them up.
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I want to thank you so much for being there for us and with us.
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And we're going to have a trial this next Thursday, week from now.
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Well, we're going home. We're going to eat something.
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I mean, I was taken with my brother straight from church.
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So we're looking forward to be reunited with our families.
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And then we will have to start meeting with lawyers.
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Lawyers, thanks to Rebel News, lawyers that are going to advise us what we can
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They want us destroyed behind the bars or killed.
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Yeah, they threw me behind the police like a piece of meat.
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So for an hour, I was almost upside down, sitting on my hands and handcuffs.
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If you've ever been arrested and the way they put the handcuffs on, you know that's extremely,
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Those wannabe Nazis, they know how to hurt you if they want to.
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Well, for over a year, I have been telling people about the overreach, about abuse of
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power, about harassment, intimidation, medical tyranny, because that's what we are witnessing
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Medical tyranny that uses the armed forces of the government and the political power.
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I mean, I'll never imagine that I would be living again in a country where pastors, out
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of all the villains on the planet, pastors, will be arrested in the middle of the highway,
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not for planning terrorist attacks, not for looking to hurt people, but because we opened
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the church and we were singing songs and praying for people.
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Funny that Pastor Pavlowski gets brutally arrested on an active highway, no less, and then gets
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Well, improving the lives of those down on their luck?
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And no, Arthur is most certainly not a terrorist.
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After all, in Justin Trudeau's Canada, we don't rough up terrorists.
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Rather, we give them eight-figure checks for hurting their feelings.
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And joining me now for the latest on the Pastor Pavlowski saga is the man who's been following
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this story closer than anyone else, and that would be Adam Seuss.
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Adam, firstly, I just can't get those images out of my head about that outrageous and downright
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What the hell were the Calgary police thinking that day?
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I honestly don't know what's going through their head.
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Arthur and I have talked about this a few times, and you'd almost think they're campaigning
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and plotting in a strategy room of how to make it look as bad as possible for themselves.
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When the police asked to speak to Arthur, he speaks to them.
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Even I read an article today that they're saying, oh, only six police came the first time they
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He hasn't caused threat or harm to anybody, and it just doesn't make any sense.
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Adam Skelly of Adamson Barbecue in Etobicoke opened his restaurant, and they literally sent
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in all the king's horses and all the king's men.
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They threw him in a slammer in front of all the mainstream media and others who were there.
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And I think that was a message by John Tory and the real mayor of the city, the health
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officer, Cruella de Villa, that if you dare open your shops, if you dare go against the
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lockdown rules, how do you like being on the six o'clock news?
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How do you like being dragged into a police cruiser?
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If you dare break our rules, how do you like being pulled over in a dangerous fashion on
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a busy highway and being arrested and handcuffed and hogtied and thrown in a cruiser?
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I think it was a message to other would-be lawbreakers, Adam.
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But the thing that really vexes me is the sort of ridiculous double standard that when
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their own MLAs and office staff are caught going on vacation and flying around when that's
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You have various protests, other religious denominations celebrating.
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And again, we're happy that those people are being unfettered as they proceed with their
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But the thing that really doesn't make any sense is why they're directing so much furious
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and vengeful anger towards Christian pastors, specifically in Alberta.
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Pastor Arthur Pawlewski getting constantly inspected.
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Other facilities, you can go on social media and you can see footage of tons of people gathering,
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whether outdoors or indoors, and there doesn't seem to be any response.
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Or when there is a response, it's like obviously disownest.
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And they're saying, oh, well, we checked and there's nothing there.
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You can immediately drive to these places and see that they're in direct violation.
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And again, I'm not going to name them because we don't want to report anybody.
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But why is there such malice directed towards one or two individuals to make a point of them only?
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I want temples, mosques, churches, you name it, to open their doors, to have services at full capacity.
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It is just, it seems to me, to be Christian churches that are being targeted.
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And there's evidence that other religious places of worship are in contravenience of the lockdown order.
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But I think that there is a tendency in society of this mentality of like you can't discriminate towards the majority.
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So I think that there may be this mentality that Artur Pawlowski may be a European immigrant, not a visible minority, and of a Christian denomination that they can probably make an example of him, whereas other groups are more likely to speak back, call out racism, call out other sort of forms of discrimination.
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Artur Pawlowski, James Coates, I don't think they're going down that route.
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So I think they've found someone that they identify as an easy victim.
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But with these Christian pastors, they're setting a strong example.
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They're standing in what they believe is their charter rite and what is in the charter to go and proceed with worship regardless.
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So they're trying to make examples out of these pastors, and they're unintentionally making martyrs.
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We've been told since day one, Adam, all our decisions, and when I say our, I mean governments, bureaucracies, chief medical health officers, by law enforcement officers, all of the decisions are being based on science.
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Sounds like there's some identity politics in there, too.
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But the other thing, the other theory I have, Adam, I want to run it by you, is that we all saw that incredible video that went viral around the world of Arthur yelling at Calgary police officers and that, I think it was an Alberta Health Services official.
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You know the one I'm talking about, get out, get out.
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Do you think they were humiliated to such a degree that they said, you know what, he's going to get his comeuppance.
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Will you see how we're going to arrest this guy?
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Well, the sentiment the whole time has been that they're going to come back and they're going to make an example because of that.
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But I think that might be skirting the actual core of the issue.
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They've been after Pastor Artur Pawlowski for a very long time.
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So this isn't a new emergence because of that video.
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Now, that may very well have been what sort of pushed them over the edge or pushed them to really make an example.
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But if we're going to have that conversation, Pastor James Coates is nothing like that.
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And he has a very different approach to Pastor Artur Pawlowski.
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So if we're going to use the argument that that video triggered it, well, then it would only be Artur Pawlowski being targeted.
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But I do think there's validity to that, that anyone who dares sort of speak up specifically about this.
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We know that AHS investigated Grace Life numerous times and they didn't move in to shut them down and do all this until Pastor James Coates actually criticized Alberta Health Services during a sermon.
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So they reported him, they talked to him a few times, then he had a sermon where he criticized their overreach and their violation of his fundamental God-given rights.
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And then suddenly the whole place is locked up and the pastor's in jail.
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Tell me, Adam, what has been the mainstream media coverage of Arthur in Calgary?
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Can you give us a little Reader's Digest version of what's going on with their narrative?
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I mean, the first, not this last Saturday, but the Saturday prior, a couple hundred people gathered.
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There was praise and worship maybe an hour and a half.
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No noticeable damage to the community, nothing.
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Again, I completely understand outside, loud music, maybe Christian music isn't your thing.
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But the only real media coverage was CTV calling them terrorists and people who terrorized the neighborhood.
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The other thing I noticed this past weekend when CTV did show up to cover the event, there was maybe four or five counter protesters.
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CTV stayed across the street for almost the entire day.
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And the only time they really moved over was to interact with the counter protesters, to get their perspectives and to film them and interact with them.
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I mean, we're here to tell the other side of the story.
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Mainstream media has clearly just been pushing a narrative.
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The other thing that's absolutely bizarre is the mainstream media, they're clearly getting some sort of notification.
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They always leave like five minutes before all the cops storm the place.
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The mainstream media leaves and then the police show up.
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And the fact that CTV would use the T word terrorist to describe, I guess, Christian music playing outside just shows you how wrong CTV is, Adam.
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I mean, as I said in the preamble, if Arthur was a terrorist, he wouldn't be behind bars.
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He'd be given a eight-figure check by the Justin Trudeau liberals.
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So it just shows you how horribly skewed the narrative is.
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You are bringing the truth about this saga and you're doing an excellent job.
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More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.
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And I want to give you a quick update on the case of Chris Scott.
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Chris Scott is the owner of the Whistle Stop Cafe in Mirror, Alberta.
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That started when he opened his restaurant in defiance of the lockdowns way back in January.
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Now, last Wednesday, his restaurant was chained up by the RCMP at the request of Alberta Health Services,
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cutting the small town of Mirror, Alberta, off from its only gas station and convenience store.
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Thursday, the government, in secret, without telling Chris's lawyer,
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got a restraining order against him and Glenn Carrot of United We Roll and unnamed Jane and John Doe.
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So, that's the rest of us, preventing us from organizing, participating in or promoting
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what the government now calls illegal public gatherings,
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which is peaceful public assembly in protest of the government.
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You see, Alberta has ostensibly banned public disagreement with the government using this restraining order.
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Now, Chris was arrested for breaching the restraining order on Saturday night
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after he held a protest in Mirror attended by 1,500 people.
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And he's been in remand in Red Deer since then.
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And we just received an update from Chris's lawyer, Chad Williamson from Williamson Law.
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And he and his team at Williamson Law are the absolute best in the business.
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They've been fighting hard for Chris as he stares down the government for months now.
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Chad and his team are not only working to get Chris out of jail,
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but they're also working to overturn that restraining order.
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So, here's the update we just received from Chad.
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Now, we've just gotten out of two separate court hearings at the Court of Queen's bench.
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The first, with respect to the procedure that is going to occur for us to make our application
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to the court to set aside the injunctive order that was granted ex parte for AHS last Thursday.
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Now, the court has basically stated that we are going to have a chance on Thursday morning
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to make submissions to go after the validity of that order
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with respect to whether or not it was given properly
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and whether or not full disclosure was provided to the court.
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And if not, whether or not that is sufficient to have that order set aside on procedural grounds.
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We also appeared at a bail hearing at the Court of Queen's bench
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before a different justice to speak to Chris's release,
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which is potentially going to happen this afternoon.
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We are currently going back and forth with opposing counsel
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when he is out pending his upcoming contempt hearing
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So, now we've got kind of a twin shoot that we have to go down
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and there is going to be some rigorous litigation over the upcoming weeks,
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both in respect of the AHS order that was granted ex parte,
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and of course we take the position that that was granted unlawfully,
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but also the contempt hearing that is impending for Chris,
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and we are waiting for disclosure from the Crown
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on their allegations that he is in contempt of that May 6th order.
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Obviously, there's kind of a nexus relationship between these two,
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The good news is that we should be able to get into court this Thursday
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to make preliminary discussions about the injunctive order
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It's obviously a pleasure to give everybody the good news
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that we can hope that Chris will be released from custody today,
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both in this kind of this twin path that we've now found ourselves in.
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that when they gave the Jason Kenney UCPs a majority mandate back in 2019
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that this government would later attack its own base?
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But just check out what is happening in Wild Rose country these days, folks.
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There is a war on the church, there is a war on the rodeo,
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and there is even a war on those restaurateurs such as Chris Scott
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who dare display the temerity to open their eateries
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And the question arises, why is this even happening?
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And joining me now regarding the latest chapter
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is the person who's been covering this story from day one,
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I'm great, David. Thanks for having me on the show.
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But Sheila, before we get into the nitty-gritty
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Surely the majority of Albertans who voted for him
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do not approve of what's going on right now in your province.
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he called on Premier Jason Kenney to resign his position,
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that are becoming increasingly disgruntled with him.
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where the phone call is coming from inside the house.
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is the infringement on the rights of Albertans.