Rebel News Podcast - September 21, 2018


PROOF： Canada is actually trying to destroy the NAFTA negotiations


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

167.13213

Word Count

7,740

Sentence Count

591

Misogynist Sentences

28

Hate Speech Sentences

25


Summary

It s obvious Canada is trying to destroy the NAFTA negotiations. I ll show you my evidence tonight. Ezra Levant: It s September 20th, and you re watching the Ezra Levant Show. Why should others go to jail when you re a biggest carbon consumer?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Tonight, it's obvious. Canada is actually trying to destroy the NAFTA negotiations.
00:00:05.440 I'll show you my evidence. It's September 20th, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:15.460 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:19.280 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:23.000 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
00:00:25.960 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:36.560 I've got some new videotape clips for you today.
00:00:39.780 They're silly clips, childish even.
00:00:42.500 And childish clips on the internet are fun if it's children doing it,
00:00:46.660 but it's a lot less fun when it's grown-ups like our foreign minister, Christia Freeland,
00:00:52.320 back in Washington, D.C., making a fool of herself in the NAFTA negotiations.
00:00:56.900 I'll show you the new vids in a moment, but let me remind you of the trouble we're in.
00:01:02.140 It's been almost a month since the United States and Mexico announced their bilateral trade deal.
00:01:07.120 Bilateral just means two sides, the U.S. and Mexico, as in no more three amigos.
00:01:12.980 Canada was invited to be part of the negotiations,
00:01:15.440 and we were for a while, but Trudeau just wouldn't shut up about weird stuff like feminism in NAFTA
00:01:24.200 and global warming in NAFTA.
00:01:27.100 And even if you don't think that's weird stuff,
00:01:30.380 you've got to acknowledge it's weird stuff to put into a trade deal.
00:01:33.400 Trade deals are about, you know, trade tariffs and taxes and things like that.
00:01:38.080 Why are you banging on about gender this and that?
00:01:41.340 So Mexico and the U.S. just started meeting on their own, 55 times, in fact.
00:01:47.260 That's pretty intimate.
00:01:49.740 I mean, you probably proposed marriage after fewer dates than that in your own personal life, I'm getting.
00:01:56.800 55 dates?
00:01:59.020 So they got hitched.
00:02:00.980 Mexico and the U.S. got the trade deal.
00:02:03.000 And this is the letter that Donald Trump submitted to Congress
00:02:05.820 to let them know for their approval.
00:02:07.740 And right in that letter, Trump said Canada can join if it wants,
00:02:12.320 but pretty much Trump's fine if we don't.
00:02:15.880 As Manny Montenegrino told us, Trump actually wins if NAFTA fails
00:02:20.380 because he can repatriate our auto industry
00:02:23.060 back down to those rust belt states that he needs to win re-election in 2020.
00:02:28.240 Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana, places like that.
00:02:30.500 Anyone who thinks Trump is bluffing
00:02:32.200 seems to have forgotten that no one in Ontario can vote for Trump,
00:02:35.520 but people in those U.S. states can't move the factory there.
00:02:39.300 I mean, why wouldn't he please them by doing that?
00:02:42.840 Canada will start negotiations shortly.
00:02:45.680 I'll be calling the prime minister very soon,
00:02:50.440 and we'll start negotiation.
00:02:52.280 And if they'd like to negotiate fairly, we'll do that.
00:02:55.940 You know, they have tariffs of almost 300% on some of our dairy products,
00:03:00.540 so we can't have that.
00:03:01.580 We're not going to stand for that.
00:03:02.600 I think with Canada, frankly, the easiest thing we can do
00:03:06.400 is to tariff their cars coming in.
00:03:08.800 It's a tremendous amount of money, and it's a very simple negotiation.
00:03:12.240 It could end in one day, and we've taken a lot of money the following day.
00:03:16.700 But I think we'll give them a chance to probably have a separate deal.
00:03:20.440 We could have a separate deal, or we could put it into this deal.
00:03:22.820 So that's the background, and it's been rough going.
00:03:28.540 Trudeau arguing in public with Trump.
00:03:30.720 And that's the thing about Trump.
00:03:31.800 He's all about massive retaliation, isn't he?
00:03:34.760 He's not into tit-for-tat.
00:03:36.700 He's into 10-to-1 tit-for-tat.
00:03:38.980 So he's been bashing and warning Canada all the time on Twitter,
00:03:42.340 not in a mean or personal way, but in a tough way.
00:03:44.820 He actually has only criticized Trudeau by name twice than I can recall.
00:03:49.320 And he's never even mentioned Chrystia Freeland.
00:03:52.140 He's too busy, by the way, with bigger things.
00:03:55.060 It's a particularly Canadian inferiority complex that causes us to obsess.
00:04:00.020 We obsess over Americans who mention us.
00:04:02.740 But instead of getting serious, we've gotten a bit silly on our side.
00:04:07.820 In the last few weeks, as you know, Chrystia Freeland
00:04:09.780 attended that anti-Trump rally in Toronto that labeled Trump a tyrant.
00:04:16.260 That's what they called him.
00:04:17.320 According to media reports today,
00:04:20.520 that insanely poor decision has not gone unnoticed in the White House.
00:04:28.200 Why would you do that?
00:04:30.780 And Freeland just keeps getting weird.
00:04:32.360 She's weird.
00:04:33.920 She appeared in Washington last night wearing a weird homemade T-shirt.
00:04:37.500 On the front it said, Mama isn't chopped liver,
00:04:40.040 as in she's not going to be pushed around.
00:04:41.880 I think that's the meaning of I'm not chopped liver.
00:04:43.420 And in the back says, keep calm and negotiate NAFTA.
00:04:48.760 So I think that means that she won't be pushed around.
00:04:54.020 Or to phrase it another way, she won't make compromises.
00:04:57.720 Either way, why the weirdness?
00:05:00.340 Why the T-shirts with messages on it?
00:05:03.540 Is it even conceivable that her U.S. negotiation counterpart,
00:05:09.380 Robert Lighthizer in the middle there,
00:05:12.300 would wear a goofy T-shirt with messages about NAFTA negotiations?
00:05:16.540 Or the impeccable Jared Kushner, there's Mike Pence there also.
00:05:20.360 I'm not saying that Chrystia Freeland shouldn't be able to wear a T-shirt
00:05:23.700 on a night flight to Washington, D.C.
00:05:25.900 I'm not picking on her fashion sense, though.
00:05:28.400 I really think she should take advice on her fashion.
00:05:31.080 But wearing a shirt, shouting weird, cryptic messages
00:05:36.340 about a NAFTA negotiation,
00:05:38.480 when you're going to the NAFTA negotiation,
00:05:42.180 isn't that a little touched?
00:05:45.240 Like her emoji negotiation weirdness.
00:05:47.760 Remember that?
00:05:48.160 The European Trade Commissioner, Cecilia Malmstrom,
00:05:51.240 and I call each other sisters in trade.
00:05:54.800 We sign our emails, hugs.
00:05:57.460 Really? You actually do that?
00:05:58.760 Yes, we do.
00:05:59.380 We sometimes send each other smiley faces
00:06:01.620 in particularly difficult moments.
00:06:04.160 I'm embarrassed by that.
00:06:05.960 I'm not even kidding about this goofiness.
00:06:08.040 Freeland left the negotiations in Washington
00:06:10.080 for something far more important.
00:06:12.920 A feminist meeting of feminist ministers
00:06:16.020 from around the feminist world.
00:06:17.800 So basically leaving it for a feminist photo op.
00:06:20.440 Feminism power!
00:06:22.000 I mean, if you're a feminist, have at her.
00:06:23.620 But is that really a good reason to leave
00:06:25.560 the negotiations on NAFTA
00:06:27.600 when we're down to the final days?
00:06:30.820 It's not just Trump that's moving on
00:06:33.000 without Canada.
00:06:34.680 U.S. congressional leaders
00:06:35.940 say they're running out of patience, too.
00:06:38.600 They want a deal.
00:06:39.540 They want the Mexican deal.
00:06:40.820 And they're starting to feel like Canada
00:06:42.420 is playing games with them,
00:06:43.740 which, of course, Canada is.
00:06:46.040 Now, the other day I showed you this beautiful moment
00:06:50.060 of how a CBC reporter named Reshmi Nair
00:06:52.460 was rendered temporarily speechless
00:06:54.640 when an American professor dared to say
00:06:56.620 that maybe Christia Freeland isn't as beloved
00:06:59.940 in America as she is in Canada.
00:07:02.220 And they sent down Christia Freeland
00:07:04.980 to negotiate,
00:07:06.360 and she went out of her way
00:07:07.480 to convey her contempt for Trump.
00:07:10.040 And that just struck me as
00:07:11.300 about the stupidest thing you could do.
00:07:13.800 Unless, of course,
00:07:14.640 you would be just as happy
00:07:16.020 to see the whole thing fail.
00:07:19.360 Convey her...
00:07:20.760 Sorry, can you give that to me again?
00:07:22.280 What example do you have
00:07:23.360 of the minister expressing her views
00:07:25.220 on Donald Trump?
00:07:25.940 You don't love her?
00:07:29.900 She was like a deer in the headlights.
00:07:31.160 She couldn't believe it.
00:07:32.140 She's a fangirl,
00:07:33.140 just like all those liberals were
00:07:34.620 at the Trump-as-a-tyrant rally.
00:07:36.420 But I think the worst things get for Freeland
00:07:38.300 and for our NAFTA negotiators,
00:07:40.060 the more our palace guard media
00:07:41.800 delude themselves.
00:07:43.440 It's like Baghdad Bob
00:07:44.640 when Iraq was about to fall to the Americans.
00:07:46.700 Oh, we've got the great devil on the run.
00:07:49.180 So here's the new video
00:07:50.440 I wanted to show you today.
00:07:51.500 This is a video of Freeland landing
00:07:53.580 in Washington, D.C.
00:07:55.020 Now, see, before she got on the plane,
00:07:57.480 someone snapped this picture of Freeland.
00:08:00.500 That's her.
00:08:00.920 You can see her white shirt.
00:08:02.640 And Gerald Butts,
00:08:03.440 that's him with the beard.
00:08:04.800 They were in the airport in Ottawa.
00:08:07.580 You can see Freeland in her weird shirt
00:08:09.960 drinking a nice glass of red wine.
00:08:13.320 So that photo got the media super excited
00:08:15.840 about the shirt.
00:08:18.180 So the media,
00:08:19.120 the CBC's camped out in Washington.
00:08:21.480 There's like half a dozen of them.
00:08:22.780 They actually,
00:08:23.380 and other media too,
00:08:24.420 they actually drove to the airport
00:08:26.440 in Washington
00:08:27.180 to meet Chrystia Freeland
00:08:29.940 when she landed at the airport.
00:08:33.040 And watch.
00:08:33.700 Now, watch this movie.
00:08:35.040 It's like the journalists are,
00:08:37.780 you know,
00:08:38.160 teenage girls at an Ariana Grande concert.
00:08:41.500 Take a look.
00:08:41.920 I hear you have a great shirt.
00:08:44.540 Can you see what the back of it is?
00:08:46.580 You can certainly see the back of my shirt.
00:08:48.380 She'll be bailing tomorrow.
00:08:49.760 Okay, that's great.
00:08:51.060 What's the meaning behind your shirt,
00:08:52.280 Minister Fran?
00:08:53.100 The shirt is a Christmas gift
00:08:54.780 my children gave to me.
00:08:56.340 Oh.
00:08:56.900 So they had it made for me, yeah.
00:08:59.580 You think it'll be good luck for tomorrow?
00:09:01.620 I hope so.
00:09:03.220 What are you hoping to come out of tomorrow?
00:09:04.580 Well, we'll be talking to reporters tomorrow.
00:09:07.540 Okay.
00:09:07.940 Oh, we'll see you there.
00:09:11.300 That's not a reporter, is it?
00:09:12.620 That's a fangirl.
00:09:14.100 That's...
00:09:15.400 That actually wasn't the state broadcaster.
00:09:17.360 That was CTV.
00:09:18.380 Let me read to you just a tiny sampling
00:09:20.600 of the Canadian media reaction.
00:09:23.080 Here's Josh Wingrove.
00:09:24.440 He used to be with the Globe and Mail,
00:09:25.780 and now he works for Bloomberg in Ottawa.
00:09:27.280 He tweeted,
00:09:28.460 Classic Freeland.
00:09:30.240 The front of this shirt says,
00:09:32.380 Mama don't equal chopped liver.
00:09:33.960 Her kids had it made for her for Christmas,
00:09:35.660 and she wore it, leaving the G7 too.
00:09:37.740 Oh, that's so classic.
00:09:40.700 She's the best.
00:09:43.020 Here's Rosa Huang of CTV, who says,
00:09:45.760 Our camera was there.
00:09:46.780 We were there, guys.
00:09:47.660 I saw Ariana Grande.
00:09:48.900 Our camera was there
00:09:50.000 when Foreign Affairs Minister
00:09:50.780 Christy Freeland arrived in Washington tonight.
00:09:52.380 We're wearing the following message.
00:09:54.040 Mama don't equal chopped liver.
00:09:56.020 Keep calm and negotiate.
00:09:56.880 Hey, NAFTA, I was there.
00:09:58.540 Hey, everybody, I was,
00:09:59.480 I touched her.
00:10:00.380 I touched her.
00:10:02.380 She said the shirt was a gift from her children.
00:10:05.100 Here's a CTV,
00:10:06.500 which did a whole new story on it,
00:10:08.760 but look at how they described it,
00:10:09.920 and ain't it the truth?
00:10:10.840 Foreign Affairs Minister Christy Freeland
00:10:12.380 is in Washington for more NAFTA negotiations
00:10:14.280 and generated buzz.
00:10:16.780 Hey, guys, it was really buzzy.
00:10:18.360 With a T-shirt that references negotiations.
00:10:21.080 Yeah, I don't, I don't think that's,
00:10:23.200 I don't think a couple of fangirl reporters
00:10:24.840 making fools of themselves
00:10:26.780 I don't think you can call that
00:10:28.320 making buzz in Washington.
00:10:30.120 I think that's just some Canadians
00:10:32.220 just bored out of their minds
00:10:34.160 and maybe they're drinking red wine
00:10:35.680 and I don't, I don't know.
00:10:37.980 But is that really the kind of buzz
00:10:39.800 you want your foreign minister to generate?
00:10:41.220 I don't believe it was buzzy.
00:10:43.520 But is that what you want?
00:10:44.340 She has a weird shirt
00:10:45.660 about ongoing negotiations.
00:10:49.580 Negotiations she pops into
00:10:50.880 and pops out of
00:10:51.880 in between anti-Trump rallies
00:10:53.620 and feminist rallies.
00:10:55.120 But look at the CBC.
00:10:56.460 So I was CTV and I showed you
00:10:57.680 Bloomberg and whatnot,
00:10:59.020 but look at the CBC
00:10:59.660 just in full fangirl mode.
00:11:03.880 Here's a tweet from CBC Power and Politics.
00:11:08.160 Christy Freeland got some encouragement
00:11:09.560 from bike riding Canadians in Washington today.
00:11:12.260 CBC Katie explains.
00:11:14.320 Take a look.
00:11:15.460 Something very funny actually just happened,
00:11:17.540 Vashie.
00:11:18.040 A couple of Canadians on rental bikes
00:11:20.220 just drove, walked by with their bikes
00:11:22.820 and said, go Freeland, go.
00:11:25.580 So they knew exactly what's going on here
00:11:27.980 at the Red Bricks in front of the U.S.
00:11:29.520 Trade Representative's office.
00:11:31.280 And they walked and I said,
00:11:33.120 obviously you're clearly Canadian.
00:11:34.800 They go, yay.
00:11:35.960 And then kept on going.
00:11:39.040 Hey, you lonely hearts out there.
00:11:41.680 You got to find yourself someone
00:11:43.240 who looks at you
00:11:44.200 the way a CBC reporter
00:11:46.540 looks at Christy Freeland.
00:11:48.060 You find someone in love like that,
00:11:49.860 you hold on and you never let go, okay?
00:11:54.120 That was the CBC's Kate Simpson
00:11:55.440 who just stands around down there
00:11:57.640 and watched it.
00:11:58.140 And sometimes she badgers the Americans.
00:11:59.960 Let me show you
00:12:00.720 the American of interest,
00:12:02.820 the American of the day here,
00:12:04.240 Ambassador Lighthizer,
00:12:06.060 the U.S. trade rep,
00:12:07.780 professional trade negotiator.
00:12:09.340 That is all he does.
00:12:11.420 Now, I'm sorry,
00:12:12.100 he's not wearing a ratty old T-shirt.
00:12:13.540 He's not wearing anything goofy
00:12:16.080 or cool or buzzy.
00:12:17.600 He's wearing a nondescript
00:12:19.520 blue business suit.
00:12:21.420 And listen to him rant about Trudeau.
00:12:24.680 And I'm kidding.
00:12:25.840 He doesn't rant.
00:12:26.780 This is how a professional
00:12:28.340 trade negotiator acts
00:12:30.400 when accosted on the street.
00:12:32.300 Is it going to...
00:12:33.060 Can you tell us whether
00:12:33.560 this week is a deadline, sir?
00:12:36.900 Is Canada being cooperative?
00:12:46.360 Are you close to a deal, sir?
00:12:47.920 Yes.
00:12:48.000 Are the Canadians
00:12:59.380 being cooperative, Ambassador?
00:13:02.560 Did the auto tariffs come off
00:13:04.340 if there's an after deal?
00:13:06.340 Now, he wasn't being rude.
00:13:08.080 In case you think he's being rude,
00:13:10.200 don't take that as rudeness.
00:13:12.000 Take that as professionalism
00:13:13.480 because any word he said at all
00:13:16.100 could be interpreted
00:13:18.160 as substantive
00:13:20.100 in the negotiation.
00:13:22.640 When it's all over,
00:13:23.940 I'm sure he'll have a lot to say.
00:13:25.840 But not while he's in
00:13:27.820 a tense negotiation.
00:13:30.100 He's not the kind of guy
00:13:31.120 who blabs
00:13:31.840 or puts messages
00:13:33.580 on his shirt.
00:13:35.180 He's a professional.
00:13:37.260 Just a couple more points.
00:13:38.440 The head
00:13:38.980 of a major Canadian union
00:13:40.680 called Unifor
00:13:41.740 is actually part
00:13:42.720 of the Canadian advisory board
00:13:44.040 on these NAFTA negotiations.
00:13:45.900 Okay, fine.
00:13:47.480 You'd think he'd be working hard
00:13:48.680 to protect the auto sector
00:13:49.840 because Unifor
00:13:50.580 represents auto workers.
00:13:51.960 But I haven't seen that yet.
00:13:53.400 I have seen a lot of bluster
00:13:54.800 and shoutiness.
00:13:57.100 I don't know.
00:13:57.660 Maybe that works
00:13:58.180 in union negotiations.
00:13:59.200 I don't know.
00:14:00.540 But I'm not sure
00:14:01.260 if it works on
00:14:01.940 foreign trade deals
00:14:03.120 with that Robert Lighthizer
00:14:04.760 we just saw.
00:14:06.840 Anyways,
00:14:07.280 the head of the Unifor
00:14:09.080 union is in Washington too.
00:14:11.920 And he recorded this rant
00:14:13.480 from the roof
00:14:15.020 of the Canadian embassy.
00:14:16.820 Hi, it's Jerry Dias.
00:14:18.100 I'm at the Canadian embassy.
00:14:19.740 I just left a meeting
00:14:20.780 with representatives
00:14:21.820 from the prime minister's office.
00:14:23.840 Ambassador McNaughton,
00:14:25.460 Minister Chrystia Freeland.
00:14:26.760 We had a good discussion
00:14:27.660 about how things unfolded
00:14:29.020 last night and this morning.
00:14:30.680 The facts are
00:14:31.260 the federal conservatives
00:14:32.160 are not helping at all.
00:14:33.800 When Andrew Scheer
00:14:34.640 makes statements
00:14:35.320 that we should be
00:14:36.400 capitulating basically.
00:14:37.880 This should have been done
00:14:38.500 a long time ago.
00:14:39.500 He really doesn't know
00:14:40.340 what he's talking about.
00:14:41.640 So what does Andrew Scheer
00:14:43.160 suggest we should capitulate on?
00:14:45.260 Should we walk away
00:14:46.220 from supply management?
00:14:47.880 Should we throw the dairy farmers
00:14:49.340 in Ontario and Quebec
00:14:50.260 under the bus?
00:14:51.640 Should we be saying,
00:14:52.600 listen, we don't care
00:14:53.360 about our cultural exemption?
00:14:55.260 We should be saying that
00:14:56.380 to Quebec that we don't care
00:14:57.600 about your culture.
00:14:58.680 I think that's ridiculous.
00:15:00.180 Should we be allowing
00:15:01.260 Fox TV to buy the CBC?
00:15:03.740 Should we be getting rid
00:15:04.640 of Canadian content?
00:15:06.360 And then, of course,
00:15:07.120 there's the whole issue.
00:15:08.120 Does Andrew Scheer believe
00:15:09.420 that all disputes in NAFTA
00:15:11.060 should be handled
00:15:12.000 in U.S. courts?
00:15:13.340 So, Andrew,
00:15:14.100 what exactly do you want us
00:15:15.420 to capitulate on here?
00:15:16.960 You should be ashamed
00:15:17.800 of yourself.
00:15:18.860 So that's Jerry Diaz.
00:15:21.240 Now, maybe he's right.
00:15:24.160 I don't know.
00:15:25.600 But if he is,
00:15:26.440 why is he giving
00:15:26.960 his comments in public?
00:15:28.220 Why is he negotiating
00:15:29.120 in public?
00:15:30.020 Has Robert Lighthizer
00:15:31.100 done that?
00:15:33.040 Why the fuss?
00:15:34.200 Why the noise?
00:15:34.760 Why the bluster?
00:15:35.500 But he's bashing Andrew Scheer
00:15:36.680 for wanting a deal
00:15:37.840 and implying that
00:15:39.140 any concession
00:15:39.880 to get a deal
00:15:40.860 is un-Canadian.
00:15:41.740 So is that the official
00:15:42.900 Canadian negotiating position?
00:15:45.380 If so,
00:15:45.920 why is it a labor union boss
00:15:47.680 saying the position
00:15:48.620 in public?
00:15:49.680 Why is someone
00:15:50.680 on the official team
00:15:51.760 mouthing off?
00:15:52.680 Is this part
00:15:53.320 of the negotiation?
00:15:54.100 Does he speak
00:15:54.600 for the negotiators?
00:15:56.340 Now, I don't know.
00:15:57.220 Either the Canadians
00:15:58.100 are being really bad
00:15:59.240 at negotiating.
00:16:00.140 I mean really bad.
00:16:01.420 Tone deaf.
00:16:02.500 No social grace
00:16:03.600 is kind of bad.
00:16:05.920 Either they have no skill
00:16:06.940 or they have skill
00:16:07.620 but just want this thing
00:16:08.680 to fail.
00:16:09.360 Tough to tell.
00:16:10.280 I think some of them
00:16:11.200 want it to fail
00:16:11.780 and others,
00:16:12.480 especially in our
00:16:13.580 state-run media
00:16:14.380 like the CBC,
00:16:15.100 they just don't have
00:16:15.600 the ability
00:16:16.080 to think outside
00:16:17.000 the official narrative.
00:16:17.900 The fact that anyone
00:16:18.860 could be critical
00:16:20.060 of Chrystia Freeland
00:16:20.960 or Justin Trudeau
00:16:22.000 is just,
00:16:22.700 they haven't been able
00:16:23.560 to think that thought.
00:16:24.340 But Doug Ford,
00:16:26.520 the new conservative
00:16:27.440 premier of Ontario,
00:16:28.540 he's worried
00:16:29.180 as well he should be.
00:16:30.920 Ontario is the province
00:16:31.900 that will be hit the worst
00:16:32.860 by a failure
00:16:34.000 to renew NAFTA.
00:16:34.900 That's where most
00:16:35.620 of the auto industry
00:16:36.320 is in Canada.
00:16:37.020 So Doug Ford
00:16:37.980 is actually heading down
00:16:39.220 to Washington
00:16:41.640 to see if he can help.
00:16:42.580 Now, I haven't seen him
00:16:43.420 rant and rave
00:16:44.400 against Donald Trump
00:16:45.440 or the Americans.
00:16:46.120 I haven't seen him
00:16:46.780 wear an anti-Trump shirt
00:16:48.500 or attend an anti-Trump rally.
00:16:51.360 I just hear he's going
00:16:52.140 to go down
00:16:52.580 to see if he can help
00:16:53.260 in negotiations.
00:16:53.840 And the left-wing media
00:16:55.320 are roaring
00:16:56.100 their disapproval.
00:16:57.580 Here are the government
00:16:58.420 comedians
00:16:59.160 from Trudeau's
00:17:00.020 state broadcaster
00:17:00.780 at the CBC.
00:17:01.520 This is the comedy
00:17:02.200 account called
00:17:02.960 22 Minutes.
00:17:03.860 Doug Ford is heading
00:17:04.740 to Washington
00:17:05.280 for the NAFTA negotiations.
00:17:06.680 Ha ha!
00:17:07.180 How do you think
00:17:07.800 this is going to go?
00:17:08.440 Ha ha!
00:17:09.580 Well, guys,
00:17:10.760 hey,
00:17:12.080 how could it go
00:17:13.040 any worse
00:17:13.620 than it is now?
00:17:16.520 But I think
00:17:17.120 it could go better.
00:17:17.940 I mean,
00:17:18.200 Doug Ford has actually
00:17:19.280 run a business
00:17:20.160 in his life.
00:17:20.700 He's done some
00:17:21.200 real negotiations before.
00:17:22.380 He's done something
00:17:23.500 in real life before
00:17:24.520 other than just
00:17:25.400 giving pious speeches.
00:17:26.740 I think he probably
00:17:27.480 has more of a natural
00:17:28.360 rapport,
00:17:29.240 just guy to guy
00:17:30.200 with Donald Trump
00:17:31.980 than Chrystia Freeland
00:17:33.100 and Justin Trudeau
00:17:34.620 do to politically
00:17:36.100 correct scolds.
00:17:38.100 I saw this story
00:17:39.300 in the Toronto Star
00:17:40.120 Lethwin paper.
00:17:41.740 Doug Ford dines
00:17:42.800 at Trump Hotel
00:17:43.600 on his NAFTA visit
00:17:44.960 to Washington.
00:17:46.220 That was in the paper
00:17:47.040 yesterday.
00:17:48.700 This is written
00:17:49.600 as if it's a scandal.
00:17:52.380 You think so?
00:17:54.820 Don't you think
00:17:55.200 that's actually
00:17:55.680 a small but smart
00:17:57.660 symbolic thing to do?
00:17:59.460 If you're in a negotiation
00:18:00.340 to get a deal,
00:18:01.380 like if that's your goal,
00:18:03.020 you can stay at any hotel
00:18:04.080 you want in Washington, D.C.
00:18:05.580 There's a ton of hotels
00:18:06.380 and they're all
00:18:07.080 pretty expensive,
00:18:07.960 let me tell you.
00:18:09.340 But if you stay
00:18:10.460 at Trump's Hotel,
00:18:11.440 which is a new hotel
00:18:12.100 I hear it's very nice.
00:18:12.880 I haven't been.
00:18:14.160 If you choose
00:18:15.100 to stay at Trump's Hotel
00:18:16.220 and the word gets out,
00:18:18.380 you let the word
00:18:18.940 get out,
00:18:19.340 you're at Trump's Hotel,
00:18:21.140 even if you just
00:18:21.700 eat a meal there,
00:18:22.480 which I guess
00:18:22.980 is all he did,
00:18:23.440 I don't think
00:18:23.740 he stayed there.
00:18:25.340 Trump will hear
00:18:26.240 that you stayed there
00:18:27.340 or his people
00:18:28.000 will hear that
00:18:28.520 you stayed there
00:18:29.220 and they'll say,
00:18:30.200 oh,
00:18:30.800 this guy isn't
00:18:32.740 a Trump hater.
00:18:34.720 The left will say,
00:18:35.600 oh,
00:18:36.260 Trump is counting
00:18:37.120 his money,
00:18:37.680 he'll like the fact
00:18:38.680 he's getting rich off it.
00:18:39.640 What,
00:18:39.820 did Trump personally
00:18:40.780 make one dollar
00:18:41.560 from that?
00:18:42.220 He's a billionaire,
00:18:42.820 did he make one dollar
00:18:43.460 from that?
00:18:43.660 No,
00:18:44.320 it's a signal
00:18:45.360 that you're not
00:18:46.260 a Trump hater.
00:18:48.260 Do you think
00:18:48.720 Justin Trudeau
00:18:49.500 or Christian Freeland
00:18:50.200 would be caught dead
00:18:51.120 at a Trump hotel?
00:18:53.100 The Toronto Star
00:18:53.760 would mock them about it.
00:18:55.180 But Doug Ford knows
00:18:56.080 you do that.
00:18:56.860 It just sets the table
00:18:58.100 a little bit
00:18:58.580 for your meeting.
00:18:59.340 It sets the mood
00:18:59.880 a little bit.
00:19:00.280 It builds a tiny rapport,
00:19:02.860 a tiny piece of trust
00:19:04.440 or friendship.
00:19:06.640 I mean,
00:19:06.940 let's say
00:19:07.560 if Justin Trudeau
00:19:08.760 had an ounce
00:19:09.480 of entrepreneurial skill
00:19:10.560 in his body
00:19:11.460 and let's say
00:19:11.920 he had a restaurant
00:19:12.800 in Ottawa,
00:19:15.200 Trudeau's,
00:19:16.640 you know,
00:19:17.600 a lot of cheese.
00:19:19.820 Wouldn't every diplomat
00:19:21.280 go to Trudeau's
00:19:23.640 and make sure
00:19:24.860 they were seen
00:19:25.560 to be there
00:19:26.340 just to signal,
00:19:28.260 yeah,
00:19:28.440 I like you,
00:19:28.940 man.
00:19:29.520 When I come
00:19:30.120 and negotiate
00:19:31.140 for something,
00:19:31.920 I'm on here
00:19:32.260 just to curry favor.
00:19:33.600 I'm not,
00:19:34.360 I'm just talking
00:19:35.160 about human nature,
00:19:36.400 common sense.
00:19:37.200 the fact that
00:19:39.120 the left-wing
00:19:39.600 Canadian media
00:19:40.440 ridiculed Doug Ford
00:19:41.560 for even trying
00:19:42.860 to get a deal
00:19:43.380 and for behaving himself
00:19:44.900 and maybe even
00:19:45.520 ingratiating himself
00:19:46.480 by eating lunch
00:19:47.600 at the Trump Hotel,
00:19:48.440 oh my God.
00:19:50.300 Well,
00:19:50.580 I think Doug Ford's
00:19:51.380 probably already
00:19:52.060 doing better
00:19:52.640 than Chrystia Freeland
00:19:53.340 just by having lunch there
00:19:54.620 and not being mean
00:19:55.940 to the other side
00:19:57.100 of the negotiation.
00:19:58.340 But hey,
00:19:59.740 if this whole
00:20:00.560 NAFTA thing fails,
00:20:03.020 at least Chrystia Freeland
00:20:04.260 will have her shirt
00:20:05.300 while 160,000
00:20:08.960 Ontario auto workers
00:20:10.340 lose theirs.
00:20:12.520 Stay with us for more.
00:20:29.640 We need to be able
00:20:30.840 to build resource projects
00:20:32.520 of all different types
00:20:33.660 with the appropriate
00:20:34.840 social license
00:20:35.760 and Canada
00:20:36.460 is doing that
00:20:38.600 in a way
00:20:38.960 that is laying it out
00:20:40.400 in a clear path.
00:20:42.320 This is the way
00:20:42.960 the world is going
00:20:43.780 and if we can
00:20:44.840 demonstrate
00:20:45.780 clarity
00:20:46.980 and certainty
00:20:47.760 for business
00:20:48.420 through the processes
00:20:49.260 through the investors,
00:20:50.440 we will be able
00:20:51.440 to get more built.
00:20:52.440 But it's thinking
00:20:53.080 about
00:20:53.460 the longer term
00:20:56.500 and not just
00:20:58.500 this project
00:20:59.600 right now
00:21:00.340 that has to be
00:21:01.660 front of mind.
00:21:02.440 It's not just
00:21:03.020 this project
00:21:03.660 that matters.
00:21:04.140 It's the future
00:21:05.240 of resource development
00:21:07.060 in Canada
00:21:07.660 that is on my mind.
00:21:10.060 I wonder if Justin Trudeau
00:21:11.620 actually thinks
00:21:12.600 about what he says
00:21:13.520 and actually believes
00:21:15.020 what he says.
00:21:15.700 He says
00:21:16.120 that there's now
00:21:17.040 clarity and certainty
00:21:18.140 in Canada.
00:21:18.960 Has that ever been
00:21:19.720 less true,
00:21:20.880 especially in the wake
00:21:21.700 of the court case
00:21:23.260 smashing the
00:21:24.480 Trans Mountain pipeline
00:21:25.360 expansion?
00:21:26.320 He says
00:21:26.760 that we are building
00:21:28.060 in accord with
00:21:28.980 social license.
00:21:30.940 I can't think of
00:21:31.860 any major project
00:21:32.780 that has been built
00:21:34.400 let alone approved
00:21:35.300 under Trudeau.
00:21:37.800 Now the Northern
00:21:38.620 Gateway Pipeline
00:21:39.220 Trudeau himself killed.
00:21:40.560 Energy East
00:21:41.060 Trudeau himself killed.
00:21:42.180 Kinder Morgan
00:21:42.700 they just panicked
00:21:46.120 and sold
00:21:46.700 to the government.
00:21:47.560 I wonder if he
00:21:50.100 believes that.
00:21:51.440 That video calls to
00:21:52.660 mind an excellent
00:21:53.300 column in the
00:21:53.920 Edmonton Sun
00:21:54.600 and I'd like to
00:21:55.800 now introduce you
00:21:56.960 to the author of
00:21:57.860 that, my friend
00:21:58.560 Lorne Gunter
00:21:59.320 who joins us
00:21:59.780 now via Skype.
00:22:00.360 Lorne, great to
00:22:00.840 see you.
00:22:01.840 Good to see you.
00:22:02.440 I'm just boggled
00:22:03.220 by it.
00:22:03.540 I'm still running
00:22:05.260 through my mind
00:22:06.020 what Trudeau just
00:22:07.040 said there.
00:22:07.460 I'm sorry I'm
00:22:07.980 distracted by how
00:22:09.140 oblivious he is
00:22:11.200 but let me just
00:22:12.000 mention your
00:22:12.600 headline and
00:22:13.720 then I'd like you
00:22:14.200 because you wrote
00:22:14.820 a great column
00:22:15.320 about this.
00:22:15.880 Your column is
00:22:17.540 called Canada is
00:22:18.300 quickly losing
00:22:18.980 its economic
00:22:20.240 advantages and
00:22:22.360 you mentioned that
00:22:23.420 Canada has
00:22:23.900 traditionally had
00:22:24.760 a highly educated
00:22:26.380 workforce, abundant
00:22:28.020 natural resources
00:22:28.900 and access to the
00:22:30.160 U.S. market.
00:22:31.700 Frankly two out of
00:22:32.660 three of those
00:22:33.260 have, one is
00:22:34.740 being killed,
00:22:35.540 the energy
00:22:35.860 industry, NAFTA
00:22:37.280 is about to make
00:22:38.840 our access to the
00:22:39.460 U.S. market
00:22:39.960 tougher and you
00:22:41.340 mentioned that
00:22:41.800 Stephen Harper
00:22:42.340 brought in low
00:22:42.980 taxes and that's
00:22:43.760 being undone too.
00:22:44.460 Tell me, expand on
00:22:46.860 your argument.
00:22:48.440 Well, you know, we
00:22:49.340 have had, as I
00:22:51.100 said, three
00:22:51.540 traditional underpinnings
00:22:54.380 for our economic
00:22:55.240 success.
00:22:55.660 We have a lot of
00:22:56.620 resources, not just
00:22:58.420 oil and gas but we
00:22:59.620 have mining and
00:23:00.500 timber and other
00:23:01.740 sorts of natural
00:23:04.520 abundance and that's
00:23:06.800 always been, you
00:23:07.620 know, for years and
00:23:09.540 years and years the
00:23:10.360 trendy thinkers have
00:23:11.400 said, oh, we don't
00:23:12.180 want to be hewers of
00:23:13.520 wood and drawers of
00:23:14.520 water.
00:23:14.760 Well, actually, there's
00:23:15.620 a lot of money to be
00:23:16.340 made in that and
00:23:17.100 there's some really
00:23:17.560 good jobs in it.
00:23:18.740 It's not easy to do
00:23:20.480 any of that stuff.
00:23:21.440 You need to have
00:23:21.880 very sophisticated
00:23:22.560 workforces with
00:23:24.260 high minds in
00:23:25.320 finance and law and
00:23:27.020 all sorts of other
00:23:28.060 areas.
00:23:28.640 It's not just people
00:23:30.560 with shovels digging
00:23:31.540 rocks.
00:23:32.760 And so that's
00:23:34.340 number one.
00:23:35.220 We have abundant
00:23:35.880 natural resources.
00:23:36.800 We do have the
00:23:37.820 skilled laborers and
00:23:39.280 the mental
00:23:40.540 intellectual
00:23:41.540 intellect to
00:23:42.160 deal with all
00:23:43.860 that very
00:23:44.300 effectively and
00:23:45.720 we've had great
00:23:46.460 access to the U.S.
00:23:47.660 market in one way
00:23:49.160 or another and
00:23:49.740 particularly since the
00:23:50.980 North American free
00:23:51.740 trade agreement or
00:23:52.640 even in 88 the free
00:23:54.280 trade agreement just
00:23:54.940 between Canada and
00:23:55.720 the U.S.
00:23:57.080 Since 88 we've had
00:23:58.740 really good access to
00:24:00.260 the American market
00:24:01.280 and because of a
00:24:03.140 bunch of virtue
00:24:04.340 signaling by the
00:24:05.640 prime minister,
00:24:06.820 we're going to lose
00:24:07.980 all of those.
00:24:09.300 We've lost our
00:24:11.500 abundant, at least
00:24:12.700 the advantage of
00:24:13.940 our abundant natural
00:24:14.800 resources.
00:24:15.460 Thankfully they're all
00:24:16.160 still there in case
00:24:17.140 someone comes along
00:24:17.940 in the future who's
00:24:19.080 a better economic
00:24:19.980 manager than this
00:24:21.080 prime minister in
00:24:21.800 this government.
00:24:22.840 They're still there
00:24:23.880 for us to take
00:24:25.740 advantage of.
00:24:27.500 But on the
00:24:29.280 resource side,
00:24:30.560 they brought in a
00:24:31.600 carbon tax which
00:24:32.300 has scared off a
00:24:33.060 lot of investment.
00:24:33.860 We're looking at
00:24:34.800 according to
00:24:36.300 provincial budget
00:24:38.120 numbers and
00:24:39.240 stats can numbers
00:24:40.360 somewhere in the
00:24:41.300 neighborhood of 60
00:24:42.200 to 100 billion
00:24:43.280 dollars in lost
00:24:44.580 investment.
00:24:45.880 Some of that is of
00:24:46.740 course because of
00:24:47.680 the worldwide price
00:24:49.380 decline in oil.
00:24:50.620 But a lot of it has
00:24:51.820 come back to other
00:24:52.900 countries.
00:24:54.700 Kazakhstan for
00:24:55.540 instance has an oil
00:24:56.740 boom going on.
00:24:57.460 The United States has
00:24:58.320 an oil boom going on.
00:24:59.400 Egypt has an oil
00:25:00.780 boom going on.
00:25:01.560 And despite its
00:25:02.480 location in the world
00:25:03.260 it's not been known
00:25:04.200 as an oil country
00:25:05.440 before.
00:25:06.360 Lots of countries
00:25:07.360 are seeing tens and
00:25:09.100 hundreds of millions
00:25:09.940 of dollars of
00:25:10.840 spending and
00:25:13.160 investment and
00:25:13.880 planned investment.
00:25:15.460 But we are not.
00:25:17.100 There's a company
00:25:17.740 called Woods McKenzie
00:25:18.780 which follows
00:25:19.640 energy investments
00:25:21.840 around the world.
00:25:22.680 It estimates that
00:25:23.320 over the next three
00:25:24.140 to five years there
00:25:25.000 will be in excess
00:25:26.160 of 300 billion
00:25:27.740 dollars of energy
00:25:29.680 investment by major
00:25:31.280 companies around the
00:25:32.040 world.
00:25:32.220 And we're going to
00:25:32.640 get a tiny fraction
00:25:33.900 of that if we get
00:25:35.500 any of it simply
00:25:36.760 because oil
00:25:38.200 companies, energy
00:25:39.220 companies around the
00:25:40.020 world look at the
00:25:41.460 fact that Trudeau
00:25:42.820 the same time he
00:25:43.500 talked about well
00:25:44.140 we're trying to set
00:25:45.160 up a stable market
00:25:46.540 or a stable regime
00:25:48.200 for approving
00:25:49.700 energy projects.
00:25:51.100 He's expanded the
00:25:52.600 amount of time it
00:25:53.280 takes and the
00:25:54.400 huge cost it's
00:25:55.900 going to take to
00:25:57.480 get any kind of
00:25:58.340 market access
00:25:59.720 approved, any kind
00:26:01.240 pipeline, any kind
00:26:02.560 of oil sands
00:26:04.020 project.
00:26:05.600 And very same
00:26:06.840 week he said all
00:26:07.580 of those things.
00:26:08.200 He said, well we
00:26:09.160 have a real problem
00:26:10.220 in our energy
00:26:10.900 sector because we
00:26:13.020 don't have gender
00:26:13.800 equity.
00:26:14.880 Only 23% of the
00:26:16.620 jobs in the energy
00:26:17.740 sector are held
00:26:19.300 by women.
00:26:20.300 What in heaven's
00:26:21.400 name does that have
00:26:22.440 to do with anything?
00:26:23.480 Are there legal
00:26:24.800 barriers to women
00:26:25.900 taking jobs in the
00:26:27.040 energy sector?
00:26:28.200 Our CEOs constantly
00:26:30.400 standing up in front
00:26:31.260 of their tall
00:26:31.800 towers in Calgary
00:26:32.760 and saying, oh
00:26:33.560 women, hey you
00:26:35.120 babes, don't come
00:26:36.180 here, we're not
00:26:36.720 hiring any of you.
00:26:37.860 Maybe young women
00:26:39.860 don't want to go up
00:26:40.880 and work in the
00:26:41.720 boonies in a field
00:26:43.420 camp 20 days on,
00:26:45.820 10 days off.
00:26:46.460 Maybe it's a choice
00:26:47.200 thing, but what's
00:26:48.300 his alternative to
00:26:49.100 buy OPEC conflict
00:26:50.160 oil with 0% women?
00:26:52.280 Exactly.
00:26:52.560 I mean in Iran and
00:26:53.420 Saudi Arabia they
00:26:54.020 don't even allow
00:26:54.640 women out of the
00:26:55.720 house.
00:26:56.080 So he's created
00:26:58.800 all of these
00:26:59.720 barriers to
00:27:01.100 investment, new
00:27:02.960 taxes, new
00:27:04.120 environmental
00:27:04.700 regulations, and
00:27:05.700 most importantly
00:27:06.760 these add-ons that
00:27:09.040 he's put in the
00:27:09.840 way of approval of
00:27:11.360 new projects, add-ons
00:27:12.960 that have very
00:27:13.920 little if anything
00:27:14.780 to do with the
00:27:15.980 environment or with
00:27:17.120 energy, but they're
00:27:18.300 all part of his
00:27:19.280 virtue signaling social
00:27:20.620 agenda.
00:27:21.660 And so companies all
00:27:22.860 around the world
00:27:23.360 are looking at
00:27:23.980 Canada, they used to
00:27:24.860 look and they say,
00:27:25.380 hey, stable
00:27:26.440 government, well
00:27:27.860 trained workforce,
00:27:29.280 smart financial
00:27:30.080 people, great access
00:27:31.920 to the U.S.
00:27:32.660 market, pretty good,
00:27:34.140 you know, fairly
00:27:34.620 competitive taxes
00:27:35.580 compared to a lot of
00:27:36.740 European countries,
00:27:38.160 and hey, let's put
00:27:39.580 some money in there.
00:27:40.880 There's a good chance
00:27:41.760 we'll get our money
00:27:42.300 out.
00:27:42.520 Now they're looking
00:27:43.100 and they're saying,
00:27:43.560 it's just so
00:27:44.460 complicated, and you
00:27:46.040 can't get anything
00:27:46.720 into a pipeline.
00:27:47.680 We had, you know,
00:27:48.320 the major oil sands
00:27:49.740 companies the other
00:27:50.760 couple weeks ago say
00:27:52.080 they're not going to
00:27:53.220 expand after that
00:27:54.480 federal court of
00:27:55.280 appeal decision that
00:27:56.620 killed Trans Mountain.
00:27:57.620 They're not going to
00:27:58.080 expand their projects
00:27:59.300 because they don't
00:28:00.520 know whether or not
00:28:01.540 they can get what
00:28:02.220 they produce to a
00:28:03.420 market.
00:28:04.260 So these are all the
00:28:06.640 things Trudeau has
00:28:07.400 done.
00:28:07.880 And look at the way
00:28:08.740 he punished, he and
00:28:10.420 Bill Moreno, his
00:28:11.180 finance minister,
00:28:12.280 punished small business
00:28:13.460 owners by increasing
00:28:15.000 the taxes considerably
00:28:16.700 on small business.
00:28:17.940 This is a very
00:28:19.140 anti-business
00:28:21.000 government.
00:28:21.740 You know, you
00:28:22.940 mentioned oil prices.
00:28:24.680 They're artificially low
00:28:26.040 in Canada because of
00:28:27.060 the pipeline restrictions.
00:28:28.880 I saw just the other
00:28:29.560 day Rick Perry, the U.S.
00:28:31.220 energy secretary, talking
00:28:32.820 about a strategic plan to
00:28:35.200 have American oil exports
00:28:37.080 displace conflict oil.
00:28:39.540 I think he was referring
00:28:40.340 in particular to Russian
00:28:42.120 energy.
00:28:42.820 So America isn't just
00:28:44.720 producing more than ever.
00:28:47.040 It's now exporting it,
00:28:48.640 and it's competing with
00:28:50.380 Russia and other
00:28:51.640 conflict oil.
00:28:52.480 That should have been us,
00:28:53.800 Lorne.
00:28:54.260 That should have been us
00:28:55.080 five years ago.
00:28:56.000 That should have been us
00:28:57.000 saying, hey, India, take
00:28:59.260 our oil instead of Iran's.
00:29:00.640 Hey, China, take our oil
00:29:02.040 instead of Iran's and
00:29:03.080 Saudi Arabia's.
00:29:04.820 I want to ask you a
00:29:05.740 question about that clip
00:29:06.440 that we played of Trudeau,
00:29:07.440 which I'm sorry, I was
00:29:09.800 stunned by it.
00:29:11.160 I want to show you an
00:29:12.240 equally stunning clip.
00:29:13.320 It really is.
00:29:14.100 Go ahead.
00:29:15.520 No, no, go ahead.
00:29:16.160 I said it's absolutely
00:29:16.780 shocking.
00:29:17.160 I mean, the complete
00:29:18.540 economic cluelessness that
00:29:20.480 the prime minister had.
00:29:21.480 Well, that's the thing.
00:29:22.080 I feel like he's still
00:29:23.080 using his campaign slogans
00:29:24.660 from 2015, and here we
00:29:26.540 are three years later,
00:29:27.320 and they're not working.
00:29:28.400 And when he said, we're
00:29:29.640 building with social
00:29:30.680 license, he ain't build a
00:29:32.100 thing.
00:29:33.140 And it's like when he
00:29:33.760 says energy and the
00:29:35.620 environment and the
00:29:36.820 economy, you need both.
00:29:38.300 Well, we don't have the
00:29:39.480 economy part.
00:29:40.320 Let me play another clip
00:29:41.260 for you.
00:29:42.040 It's sort of similar, and
00:29:43.360 it goes to obliviousness.
00:29:45.340 Do these guys know that
00:29:48.640 their cliche-o-matic
00:29:50.140 message tracks that maybe
00:29:52.520 worked for a bit in 2015
00:29:54.320 in the election, they sound
00:29:55.940 crazy now.
00:29:57.100 Here's Bill Morneau right
00:29:59.420 after that Trans Mountain
00:30:00.420 Pipeline court case.
00:30:03.640 Well, here, let's just let
00:30:04.820 him do the talking.
00:30:05.460 Take a look.
00:30:05.800 Taken together, today's
00:30:07.740 decisions from the Federal
00:30:08.820 Court of Appeal and from
00:30:10.380 Kinder Morgan shareholders
00:30:11.520 are important next steps in
00:30:14.020 getting this project built in
00:30:15.880 the right way for the benefit
00:30:17.320 of all Canadians.
00:30:19.260 Lorne, that was a scripted
00:30:20.220 comment where he said that
00:30:21.240 this court case stopping the
00:30:23.980 pipeline is an important
00:30:26.920 next step.
00:30:28.860 And by the way, the company
00:30:30.260 that owned that, washing its
00:30:32.540 hands of it, is an important
00:30:34.500 next step in getting it
00:30:36.180 built, Lorne.
00:30:36.700 You know, earlier on you
00:30:38.380 said that Kinder Morgan got
00:30:39.840 spooked and ran off.
00:30:42.000 Kinder Morgan didn't get
00:30:42.960 spooked.
00:30:43.760 They saw the fans coming.
00:30:45.640 They knew what a dog they
00:30:46.880 had.
00:30:47.280 And they said, oh, you'd like
00:30:48.660 to buy a dead dog for a
00:30:49.840 billion dollars over the
00:30:50.820 asking price?
00:30:51.620 Oh, by all means, go ahead.
00:30:53.700 That's an ex-parrot.
00:30:55.000 That parrot is deceased.
00:30:56.060 Yeah, that parrot has ceased
00:30:57.280 to be.
00:30:58.380 Exactly.
00:30:59.380 And, you know, I remember
00:31:01.060 when Donald Trump was fresh
00:31:02.980 in office and scrapping
00:31:05.360 global warming meetings was
00:31:08.260 high on his agenda.
00:31:08.940 I remember after he announced,
00:31:10.280 I remember his saying, he
00:31:11.520 said, I was elected by
00:31:12.260 Pittsburgh, not Paris.
00:31:13.820 I just love that.
00:31:15.620 It was just such a, that
00:31:17.900 exactly summed it up.
00:31:19.100 And I remember watching
00:31:19.820 Catherine McKenna, the
00:31:21.520 environment minister, go on
00:31:22.680 Evan Solomon's show.
00:31:23.880 And I respect Evan.
00:31:24.940 I don't agree with him on
00:31:25.660 everything, but I think he's
00:31:26.940 one of the few reporters in
00:31:27.940 Ottawa that asks firm
00:31:29.060 questions of these liberals.
00:31:31.560 And he said, aren't you
00:31:32.940 worried about getting out of
00:31:34.100 sync with America on energy
00:31:36.820 and carbon taxes?
00:31:37.940 She said, oh, no, the
00:31:39.400 carbon tax train is taking,
00:31:41.160 we're on the train.
00:31:42.660 And even Evan Solomon back
00:31:45.080 then said, are you sure?
00:31:46.460 I mean, Trump's going in this
00:31:47.440 direction, and now you add
00:31:48.740 Trump's tax cuts.
00:31:49.920 I think these folks thought
00:31:53.380 that Hillary Clinton would win
00:31:54.620 and they would harmoniously
00:31:56.300 be global warming, carbon
00:31:58.620 taxing, you know, eco
00:32:01.100 extremists.
00:32:02.180 Instead, they're still on that
00:32:03.880 path as if Hillary Clinton
00:32:05.160 won.
00:32:06.400 And Donald Trump doesn't even
00:32:08.200 have to try.
00:32:09.340 He's just sucking all the money
00:32:10.580 and investment back down to
00:32:12.280 him.
00:32:12.420 And if we're not careful, he's
00:32:13.660 going to take our factories
00:32:14.500 too.
00:32:15.580 Well, and I think it's worse
00:32:18.460 than that, though, with the
00:32:19.600 liberals.
00:32:19.900 And that is that they really
00:32:22.440 it's not as though they're
00:32:24.320 pretending that what they
00:32:26.180 promised in 2015 is still
00:32:29.580 happening, even though they
00:32:30.640 know it's not.
00:32:32.000 They don't know it's not like
00:32:33.340 they they still believe their
00:32:34.880 bump.
00:32:35.320 They still believe their
00:32:36.440 campaign slogans.
00:32:37.580 They still think that there's a
00:32:39.280 magic wand out there that they
00:32:41.300 can wave with provided they use
00:32:43.760 enough taxpayer dollars.
00:32:45.040 And suddenly this carbon free
00:32:47.900 economy will spring into
00:32:49.840 existence and we won't
00:32:51.360 anymore need jobs as welders
00:32:54.020 on pipelines because we'll
00:32:55.640 have great jobs installing
00:32:57.480 solar panels on on all the
00:32:59.940 playground equipment or
00:33:01.260 something.
00:33:01.680 You know, they just have these
00:33:03.560 fanciful ideas because you
00:33:05.020 could see that in Ontario.
00:33:06.200 Right.
00:33:06.340 A lot of the people you and I
00:33:07.500 have talked about this before.
00:33:08.500 A lot of the people who run the
00:33:10.300 federal liberal government now
00:33:11.560 used to run the Ontario
00:33:12.980 provincial government.
00:33:14.200 government, the liberal
00:33:15.060 provincial government, and
00:33:16.680 they ran that economy into
00:33:18.700 the ground.
00:33:19.900 They spent a decade and
00:33:21.160 somewhere close to 60
00:33:22.620 billion dollars trying to
00:33:24.460 force this alternate energy
00:33:26.540 economy into existence.
00:33:28.180 Never even came close.
00:33:30.620 Ran up the largest non
00:33:32.340 national debt of any
00:33:34.140 government in the world and
00:33:36.880 did nothing.
00:33:37.720 But this none of this really
00:33:40.000 surprises me with the prime
00:33:41.140 minister.
00:33:41.580 When I take a step back and I
00:33:44.180 think about what he did before
00:33:45.420 he became an MP and for a
00:33:47.220 long time after he became an
00:33:48.500 MP, his job was to be a
00:33:50.500 motivational speaker.
00:33:51.680 Yeah.
00:33:52.140 Yeah.
00:33:52.500 You know, he would jump into
00:33:54.560 usually a public sector
00:33:56.640 union convention, deliver a
00:34:00.040 speech for 10 or 20 or
00:34:01.420 $30,000, you know, telling
00:34:03.920 what marvelous people they were
00:34:05.940 and how essential they were to
00:34:07.340 the kind of Canadian community
00:34:08.920 that we should all be trying to
00:34:10.500 build.
00:34:10.740 It was all very touchy feely,
00:34:12.560 all very amorphous.
00:34:14.960 And then then he would leave.
00:34:17.160 And that's really the depth of
00:34:19.000 his intellect.
00:34:19.620 Yeah.
00:34:20.060 Well, you know, and that's a
00:34:21.380 great observation.
00:34:22.040 And he himself admits it.
00:34:23.480 I think you and I have talked
00:34:24.360 about this before when he was
00:34:25.800 convicted of breaking the
00:34:27.240 conflict of interest law four
00:34:28.420 times.
00:34:29.340 The ethics commissioner in her
00:34:31.000 report called the Trudeau
00:34:32.180 report, if you want to find
00:34:33.040 it, noted that Trudeau's
00:34:36.080 defense for taking this
00:34:37.980 hundred thousand dollar free
00:34:39.100 vacation on this billionaire's
00:34:40.540 island was, oh, sure, he
00:34:42.380 might have that billionaire
00:34:44.360 might have been lobbying for
00:34:45.560 huge government grants at the
00:34:46.920 same time he was giving me a
00:34:47.960 gift.
00:34:48.220 But I didn't know what he was
00:34:49.480 talking about because I never
00:34:50.520 get into the details of any
00:34:52.240 file.
00:34:52.660 I'm just there for relational
00:34:53.840 reasons, back slapping, make
00:34:55.780 sure you OK.
00:34:56.620 Hey, how you doing?
00:34:57.480 You OK?
00:34:58.140 OK, you guys do.
00:34:59.240 He basically his excuse for
00:35:01.600 breaking the law that the
00:35:02.820 commissioner did not accept
00:35:04.140 was, I don't know what
00:35:05.840 anybody's talking about.
00:35:07.200 I just spelt the cliches and
00:35:08.880 then I go do a photo op.
00:35:10.540 I don't even, you know, I'm
00:35:12.900 an unfrozen caveman lawyer.
00:35:14.600 I don't know about what is
00:35:16.460 this cell phone.
00:35:17.220 You know, it's pitiful.
00:35:19.120 But I actually think I've
00:35:20.780 always said he should have
00:35:23.120 been the governor general
00:35:24.580 because he loves the photo
00:35:25.880 ops.
00:35:26.300 He's handsome.
00:35:27.320 He speaks English and
00:35:28.160 French.
00:35:29.820 He actually has in his bones
00:35:31.800 a love for Canada.
00:35:32.920 Let's acknowledge that.
00:35:34.160 Oh, absolutely.
00:35:34.800 He should have been the
00:35:35.780 governor general.
00:35:36.440 He gets all the perks and
00:35:38.060 none of the possibilities.
00:35:38.660 He's taken in different
00:35:40.120 places in Canada than any
00:35:41.460 other individual in our
00:35:42.700 history.
00:35:43.120 So he's the shirtless
00:35:44.720 selfie champion of all of
00:35:47.460 Canadian history.
00:35:48.180 So clearly he loves the
00:35:49.220 country.
00:35:49.720 I don't doubt that for a
00:35:51.200 second.
00:35:51.380 He should have been
00:35:51.920 governor general.
00:35:52.980 And, you know, who's the
00:35:54.460 former astronaut?
00:35:55.280 Mark Garneau should have
00:35:56.380 been the liberal leader.
00:35:57.580 And, you know, he had a
00:35:58.780 little respect for the
00:35:59.540 military.
00:35:59.840 He's a former Air Force
00:36:00.680 man himself, if I'm not
00:36:01.540 mistaken.
00:36:02.320 An astronaut, in fact.
00:36:03.600 Obviously a smart dude.
00:36:06.060 That's how history should
00:36:07.160 unfold, Lorne.
00:36:08.560 But instead, we've got the
00:36:09.520 selfie boy running us into
00:36:11.160 the ground.
00:36:11.480 Last question to you.
00:36:14.700 Sorry, what did you used to
00:36:15.880 call him?
00:36:16.340 The shiny pony?
00:36:17.220 The shiny pony.
00:36:17.880 The shiny pony.
00:36:19.040 The shiny pony.
00:36:21.400 Because he's got that
00:36:22.240 beautiful hair.
00:36:23.000 Hey, Lorne, I got a
00:36:23.840 question for you.
00:36:24.760 One of the things that has
00:36:25.680 depressed me over the last
00:36:27.040 few years was the feeling
00:36:29.220 that I and others like me,
00:36:32.600 and I put you in this
00:36:33.360 category, we're Cassandras.
00:36:34.760 That is someone making an
00:36:36.380 awful prediction about the
00:36:37.380 future, but no one would
00:36:38.340 listen to us.
00:36:39.400 And are we mad?
00:36:41.400 People think we're crazy.
00:36:43.240 Is everyone else crazy and
00:36:44.900 we're saying, like, are we
00:36:46.060 the only people that see
00:36:47.180 this?
00:36:47.940 And I'm starting to detect
00:36:49.240 some chips in the armor
00:36:52.040 that maybe not everyone is
00:36:54.380 going along with this.
00:36:55.360 Doug Ford's election win in
00:36:57.340 Ontario was a major symbol
00:37:00.680 and sign that maybe not
00:37:02.680 everyone's going along with
00:37:03.800 this left-wing gobbledygook.
00:37:05.620 And do you have hope?
00:37:08.540 Is there reason to hope?
00:37:09.900 Because I didn't have a lot
00:37:11.240 of hope until Doug Ford won.
00:37:12.720 I thought we were fighting a
00:37:13.740 retreating battle.
00:37:14.520 What do you think?
00:37:15.380 Yeah, and I still think we
00:37:17.200 are.
00:37:18.980 The latest polling that I
00:37:20.900 saw, in fact, I think it
00:37:21.920 came out in the middle of the
00:37:23.580 night last night from
00:37:24.860 Abacus Data, is that the
00:37:27.000 Liberals are the only party
00:37:28.920 that still has a positive
00:37:31.440 approval rating.
00:37:33.140 And the Prime Minister is the
00:37:34.800 only political leader who has
00:37:36.880 a positive approval rating,
00:37:38.160 meaning more people think he's
00:37:39.600 doing a good job than think
00:37:40.700 he's doing a poor job.
00:37:42.380 So, you know, if you can
00:37:44.300 capture Montreal, Toronto,
00:37:47.660 Ottawa and Vancouver in a
00:37:49.800 federal election, and I think
00:37:50.920 the Liberals will, you are well
00:37:53.920 on your way to a victory.
00:37:55.560 You add in Atlantic Canada,
00:37:57.520 where they're still very, very
00:37:58.600 strong, and you don't need
00:37:59.980 Toronto outside of the GTA,
00:38:03.940 plus the Prairie West.
00:38:06.340 You don't need them, and you'll
00:38:09.200 still win a majority.
00:38:10.440 And so, unfortunately, I'm still
00:38:12.220 very pessimistic about the 2019
00:38:13.800 election.
00:38:14.800 But in the longer term, no, I
00:38:17.520 think we'll see a return to some
00:38:19.460 sanity.
00:38:19.900 Yeah, well, I hope so.
00:38:21.480 I hate to recall the fact that
00:38:23.280 Pierre Trudeau was the Prime
00:38:25.600 Minister for almost 16
00:38:27.600 contiguous years.
00:38:28.780 There was that Joe Clark...
00:38:30.060 Yeah, the son is not as big an
00:38:32.060 acorn as the father, so I think
00:38:34.820 that he will fall more lightly
00:38:36.880 from the tree.
00:38:37.680 He'll be gone sooner.
00:38:39.900 Lauren Gunter, great to talk to
00:38:40.820 you.
00:38:40.940 Thanks for letting me keep you,
00:38:42.100 and thanks for chewing over these
00:38:44.140 crazy subjects with us.
00:38:45.260 Great to see you again.
00:38:46.580 Good to see you.
00:38:47.340 All right, there you have it.
00:38:48.040 Lauren Gunter, his article.
00:38:48.980 By the way, if you haven't read
00:38:50.300 it yet, it's in the Edmonton
00:38:51.240 Sun.
00:38:51.900 It's called Canada is Quickly
00:38:53.440 Losing Its Economic Advantages,
00:38:56.460 and I hate to say it, he's dead
00:38:57.780 right.
00:38:58.420 It makes me sad.
00:38:59.700 Stay with us.
00:39:00.380 More Ahead on the Rebel.
00:39:12.980 Hey, welcome back.
00:39:13.860 On my monologue yesterday about
00:39:15.200 CBC launching a new propaganda
00:39:17.540 channel at your kids called CBC Kids
00:39:19.500 News, Bill writes, the CBC is the
00:39:22.640 conduit for liberal government
00:39:23.680 funded child exploitation.
00:39:26.420 Now, you know, the world child
00:39:27.980 exploitation implies a sexual
00:39:30.780 molestation, so I'm not going to use
00:39:32.240 that word because I think it has a
00:39:33.600 special meaning.
00:39:35.340 But targeting children for political
00:39:37.900 brainwashing, that is gross, and that
00:39:40.600 is a tactic of the authoritarians in
00:39:45.040 history.
00:39:47.920 You know, many authoritarians, I don't
00:39:50.980 want to misquote Hitler, but he said
00:39:53.200 something like, give me a child at age
00:39:55.460 eight.
00:39:56.300 I mean, there was the Hitlerjugend, the
00:39:58.980 Hitler Youth.
00:39:59.680 In the Soviet Union, they had the young
00:40:01.180 pioneers.
00:40:01.700 I told you about Pavlik Morozov.
00:40:04.380 If you can make a child's first loyalty to
00:40:06.800 the state and turn the child against the
00:40:09.240 parents, you've destroyed the family as an
00:40:11.840 alternative source of power and trust to the
00:40:14.280 state.
00:40:16.020 Forgive my digression for a moment, but I knew
00:40:20.160 some Soviet emigres who came over from the
00:40:22.860 former Soviet Union in the late 70s to Calgary, to
00:40:25.720 many cities in Canada.
00:40:27.460 And one of them told me that he, maybe I told
00:40:30.460 you this story before, but just give me a
00:40:31.560 minute.
00:40:32.020 He told me that he joined the Boy Scouts, which
00:40:35.500 was the young pioneers.
00:40:37.800 And, you know, I joined the Cub Scouts and the
00:40:39.960 Scouts in Canada, and you have your sash and you
00:40:42.040 have your different, you know, pins and
00:40:44.140 badges.
00:40:45.560 And they all wore a little lapel pin, and on
00:40:49.640 the lapel pin was the face of that boy we
00:40:53.880 showed yesterday, Pavlik Morozov, who was
00:40:56.640 given the title informant number one for turning
00:41:00.340 in his parents to Stalin's KGB because they
00:41:05.080 criticized Stalin's forced collectivization of
00:41:07.560 farms.
00:41:07.860 So understand what that does.
00:41:09.960 You tell the child the highest honor, the highest
00:41:14.020 level of service, the highest ideal is to love the
00:41:17.400 Communist Party so much that you'll actually turn in
00:41:20.140 your parents if they speak ill of the party.
00:41:23.660 And could you imagine being a parent and dropping,
00:41:26.060 like dropping your kids off at Girl Guides or Cub
00:41:28.000 Scouts?
00:41:28.360 That's a great pleasure.
00:41:29.380 They're learning things.
00:41:30.140 You're excited.
00:41:30.960 They're learning skills, some outdoorsy stuff.
00:41:32.980 Imagine you're dropping your kids off.
00:41:35.260 And yeah, I bet you the young communist pioneers learn
00:41:38.120 those fun Cub Scout skills too.
00:41:40.240 But the whole thing had a political purpose, drive a
00:41:44.540 wedge between the child and the parent.
00:41:45.920 Now, I'm not saying that CBC Kids News is quite as
00:41:49.100 diabolical or as extreme as that.
00:41:52.860 But when you are having child actors read grown-up propaganda
00:41:57.260 in childlike language designed to speak to children around
00:42:03.380 their parents about extreme issues like marijuana use and
00:42:06.960 six-gender sex ed and criticizing American refugee policies, I'm
00:42:12.580 sorry, that is not news, that's propaganda, and it is in the
00:42:15.820 style of the young pioneers.
00:42:18.120 All right, let me move on.
00:42:19.300 Deb writes, they are so open about this indoctrination, even in
00:42:22.620 our schools.
00:42:23.340 They really want generation after generation of new liberals.
00:42:25.980 How dare they go after our children?
00:42:28.280 Well, yeah, you know, we just did a video.
00:42:29.960 It wasn't on my show, but you can find it elsewhere on the
00:42:32.720 website about Sephora Berman, the hardcore left-wing
00:42:37.000 anti-oil extremist, used to work for Greenpeace, works for a
00:42:40.240 U.S. lobby group called Stand Earth right now.
00:42:43.080 She was invited by the Alberta Teachers Association to speak
00:42:45.780 at a teachers' conference.
00:42:47.680 What are you doing?
00:42:49.020 Well, of course, I know exactly what she's doing.
00:42:51.200 She's trying to turn the teachers of Alberta into anti-oil
00:42:55.380 activists to propagate her message into their classrooms.
00:42:59.400 Not that they need a lot of encouragement, the Alberta
00:43:01.440 Teachers Association is far left-wing.
00:43:03.120 So, yeah, it's the move.
00:43:05.480 On my interview with James O'Keefe about Project Veritas' new
00:43:08.480 videos exposing the deep state in America, Paul writes,
00:43:11.520 this couldn't have come out at a better time.
00:43:13.600 While the Democrats are pushing the deep state to help them
00:43:15.840 influence the election.
00:43:18.340 Yeah, and of course, Donald Trump has ordered the unredacted
00:43:23.100 release of an enormous number of deep state memos on the
00:43:27.360 national security side of things.
00:43:28.940 We're touching the FBI and all those, that whole Russiagate
00:43:31.780 business.
00:43:32.340 It'll be fascinating.
00:43:33.400 It's interesting to me how many liberal journalists are
00:43:36.100 against this, they love getting selective leaks from their CIA
00:43:39.960 or NSA sources.
00:43:41.500 But when Donald Trump says, you know what?
00:43:43.260 Forget the leaks.
00:43:43.980 I'm going to release every single thing.
00:43:45.560 Let the chips fall where they may.
00:43:46.920 They're panicking.
00:43:47.760 Why is that?
00:43:48.740 I've never seen journalists reject more documents and more
00:43:52.320 information before.
00:43:53.280 I wonder why.
00:43:55.260 Peter writes, there is a deep state in Canada too, but it is
00:43:58.720 not called that.
00:43:59.780 Much of the federal bureaucracy is liberal and actively worked
00:44:02.240 against Harper when he was in office.
00:44:03.620 Oh, you are so true.
00:44:05.380 I don't know if you remember, there was a song in the last
00:44:07.760 election by a bunch of civil servants in Ottawa called
00:44:10.460 Harper Man.
00:44:12.180 And it was an anti-Harper song.
00:44:13.940 It was all these civil servants, they're singing Harper Man
00:44:16.300 while going to work for Harper the Man.
00:44:18.580 You know that they were slow walking everything and foiling
00:44:21.480 everything they could.
00:44:22.800 As you know, we put out a shirt called I'm a Harper Man.
00:44:26.060 We said, you know what?
00:44:27.040 I'm a Harper Man.
00:44:27.940 So we turned it into a positive.
00:44:29.300 But absolutely, and the coalition and the coalescence between
00:44:35.020 bureaucrats and diplomats and lawyers and law professors and
00:44:41.160 judges and the media and even pop culture, it's just, it's one
00:44:45.840 big, the Japanese had a word for a karitsu.
00:44:48.460 It's like a, it's an oligarchy.
00:44:50.360 It's a permanent class.
00:44:51.900 Yeah.
00:44:52.280 We got it in Canada bad.
00:44:53.760 Well, folks, that's my show of the day.
00:44:57.080 And you know what?
00:44:57.760 I got, I thought it was an interesting monologue myself and I
00:45:01.540 got some positive feedback about it.
00:45:03.200 People were shocked about that CBC Kids News thing.
00:45:05.520 So we put that monologue on YouTube.
00:45:08.060 The whole thing, we do that, as you know, about once a month or
00:45:10.980 so.
00:45:11.540 We put about a couple of interviews a month on YouTube.
00:45:17.200 And this, we put the CBC Kids News World one on YouTube.
00:45:20.500 I love doing it because I love to get these things watched by
00:45:23.980 tens of thousands more people and just subscribe every month.
00:45:27.120 But I want to keep the good stuff for you, the folks who pay
00:45:30.140 eight bucks a month to be premium members, because it is your
00:45:33.220 payment of that $8 a month that keeps us strong.
00:45:35.760 So I want to keep the good stuff for you.
00:45:37.440 But once a month, we'll put something outside the paywall.
00:45:39.640 And we did that with that one.
00:45:41.560 All right, folks, until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here
00:45:44.480 at Rebel World Headquarters, see you at home.
00:45:46.580 Good night and keep fighting for freedom.
00:45:50.500 Good night.
00:45:52.100 Good night.
00:45:53.140 Good night.
00:46:02.020 Good night.
00:46:05.760 Good night.
00:46:06.340 Good night.
00:46:11.140 Good night.