Rebel News Podcast - November 12, 2020


PROOF: Saskatchewan's unnecessary lockdown is “a union shakedown” (Guest: Kelly Lamb)


Episode Stats

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39 minutes

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189.08713

Word Count

7,461

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530

Misogynist Sentences

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Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

Kelly Lamb is a Saskatchewan-based YouTuber, former PPC candidate, and recovering politician. She joins me to talk about the election, the current COVID lockdown, and the potential harm the Trump presidency may do to Saskatchewan.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello Rebels, you're listening to a free audio-only recording of my weekly Wednesday night show
00:00:05.120 The Gun Show. Tonight my guest is Kelly Lamb, however you might know her by her maiden name
00:00:11.340 Kelly Day. She's a Saskatchewan-based YouTuber and recovering politician and we are talking
00:00:17.360 about the Saskatchewan election, the American election, and the COVID lockdown. Now if you
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00:01:11.500 The province of Saskatchewan has plunged three cities into stricter COVID restrictions. Just like
00:01:19.560 BC, the hands-off approach to disease management ended right after their election was over. I'm
00:01:25.440 Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:01:45.280 What the heck is going on in Saskatchewan? The mainstream media is using the word
00:01:50.020 explosion to describe new COVID case counts. The nurses union and not the nurses, I want to be
00:01:57.340 very clear and make that distinction, is saying the health care system is on its knees. There are
00:02:04.160 260 doctors who want an immediate COVID lockdown. But is this all really necessary? Just look at this
00:02:12.740 from the Saskatchewan government website. A total of 44 individuals are hospitalized, including 33
00:02:18.080 inpatient hospitalizations and 11 ICU hospitalizations. 29 Saskatchewan residents with COVID-19 have died.
00:02:27.500 Saskatchewan now has a fatality rate of 0.7%. The nurses union wants me to believe that this is bringing
00:02:34.980 the whole health care system to its knees? No way. This is a shakedown for more money by people who won't
00:02:42.660 lose their jobs in a COVID lockdown. Now, Kelly Lamb, you may know her as Kelly Day, is a Saskatchewan-based
00:02:51.880 YouTuber, former PPC candidate. And you also may recognize her from her cover of the Tommy Robinson
00:02:58.600 song, How They Rule Ya. She joins me tonight to talk about the Saskatchewan election, the potential harm of
00:03:06.500 Biden presidency may do to Saskatchewan. These increased lockdown measures happening in Saskatchewan
00:03:13.660 in larger cities, and how this is all making us hate our fellow man. Our interview does run a little
00:03:21.320 longer than usual, so I'll just zip it. And here is the interview that I recorded with my friend Kelly
00:03:28.920 Lamb yesterday morning. Joining me now from her home outside of Prince Albert, Saskatchewan is Kelly
00:03:50.640 Lamb, although you might know her as Kelly Day. And today we're going to be talking about the
00:03:55.580 Saskatchewan election, Saskatchewan COVID lockdowns. Are they going to have a second lockdown? And what
00:04:02.080 do the current restrictions look like? And how ridiculous are they really? Because I think she's
00:04:08.160 experienced it, and I've seen, or at least spoken to people who've experienced it firsthand. And the
00:04:13.980 American election, the impact that's going to have on Saskatchewan. And I guess what songs we're going to
00:04:19.380 sing on our prison album when we get sent to a gulag because we kind of didn't hate Donald Trump as
00:04:27.220 much as the Democrats in the United States would like us to. Hey, Kelly, thanks for coming on the
00:04:31.460 show. Thanks for having me. Always a joy to be here, Sheila. Yeah, it's been too long. I think since
00:04:38.400 the last time I talked to you, you got married. So congratulations on that. And you relocated a
00:04:43.320 little bit to an undisclosed location. I guess the first thing I want to talk to you about is the
00:04:49.540 Saskatchewan election. Overwhelming majority for Scott Moe's Saskatchewan party. I don't think that
00:04:57.060 was a surprise to anybody. He's very popular. He was, you know, the sort of the conservative
00:05:04.000 torchbearer while Alberta waited to get rid of NDP here. But I think the most surprising
00:05:13.120 thing for me was how well the Buffalo separatist party did in at least four ridings. I think they
00:05:23.700 probably would have done a lot better because I think there is a strong separatist sentiment in
00:05:28.380 Saskatchewan, much like there is here in Alberta. But I think a lot of people were concerned about
00:05:32.640 splitting the vote and the NDP running up the middle. What do you think? Absolutely. There's a
00:05:38.620 healthy fear of the NDP getting any power in parts of the province. There are pockets where they've
00:05:44.500 always maintained some seats. So, you know, there's pockets of support, particularly in more urban areas.
00:05:49.600 But rurally, there's always just been we just we want to make sure we stay conservative. You know,
00:05:53.760 there is people like Moe, absolutely. But they also, even if it wasn't him, the party likely still
00:05:58.800 would have won with a large majority as it did. It's the standard kind of safe conservative party here.
00:06:04.140 We do have other options. There was the Buffalo party this year. There's the other conservative
00:06:08.660 party that's a bit smaller. They did OK in certain ridings as well, considering how independent and
00:06:13.040 small they are. But yeah, the SAS party is our kind of go to conservative party. And so we certainly
00:06:19.360 expected them to do well no matter what. But when it comes to the Buffalo party, what I found
00:06:24.660 interesting was they did do a lot better than I think most of us expected. I think they probably did
00:06:28.600 better than they even expected, not because the sentiment for separatism isn't high. It is high.
00:06:34.500 But like you said, there's a fear of splitting the vote. There's there's this we have to make a safe
00:06:38.580 choice, much like in Canada. You know, they just want to get Trudeau out. And so you don't want to
00:06:43.660 split the vote. You just want to vote the CPC. Get her done. Get Trudeau out was the idea. Same with
00:06:48.380 with Saskatchewan. So I understand why people were hesitant to go with a smaller, more independent
00:06:54.460 party. I wasn't afraid to throw my vote behind the Buffalo party myself. They didn't
00:06:58.580 do very well in my riding, but they did really well in my hometown riding of Estevan and
00:07:03.760 Weyburn region. So wherever oil and gas is a strong financial driver, they did get some
00:07:10.140 really decent support. So I was really surprised and happy to see my hometown just openly being
00:07:15.000 courageous enough to say, you know what, enough's enough. We want to change. We don't know what
00:07:19.160 to do under this anymore. Why not? Why not try something new? So yeah, I think that was really
00:07:24.560 the surprise in all of it. And I'm not saying that I'm surprised because a separatist party
00:07:32.160 is gaining momentum. I think, of course, the parade is marching. Somebody needs to jump in
00:07:37.500 front of it. But the fact that they were, I mean, probably about 90 days old as a party
00:07:44.900 in the lead up to the election, no money, just fielding candidates in 17 ridings. I think
00:07:53.020 they finished second place in Cypress Hills, Kindersley, Estefan and Cannington. And they
00:07:58.620 did really well in a couple of those, like upwards of 20%, which is, I mean, if they had more
00:08:06.640 political infrastructure, more fundraising, more candidates, I think we would have seen.
00:08:12.540 I think it would not be outrageous to see a Buffalo Party official opposition next time around.
00:08:22.360 I would agree with that. And now that some people have come out and shown, you know what,
00:08:25.720 I'm going to put my support behind this, that in itself will just will grow the support people
00:08:29.800 know about them now. Like you said, they were brand new. A lot of people that are normies,
00:08:34.340 so to speak, that just don't follow along or don't care about politics, which I find so hard to
00:08:38.840 believe, especially at a more local level. You'd think you, I can understand saying, well,
00:08:42.720 if it goes on in Ottawa, you feel distant from it. But for me, it's hard to understand that people
00:08:46.640 don't pay attention to municipal and provincial politics. But there are so many that don't. And so,
00:08:51.680 yeah, I think it's interesting now, it'll be interesting to see where people go with their
00:08:56.300 votes in the future, just now that they're getting more well known, and to see what's going on
00:09:00.860 nationally. Because the more that goes on nationally, there's legislation being pushed
00:09:05.060 constantly that's pushing people into, you know, what was once reluctant separatists like myself
00:09:10.840 are just saying, okay, I got nothing left. So what else do we do? We understand the viability issues.
00:09:17.620 There's a lot to discuss. I don't even know if it's viable in my lifetime, but we have to work
00:09:22.140 towards something useful. And I just don't, a lot of people in Saskatchewan and Alberta, they just don't
00:09:26.800 feel like they're even a part of all of this anymore. It's such a disconnect. And it hurts
00:09:31.540 to give up that sense of patriotism. But what's happening for me, and I'm sure lots of others is
00:09:36.200 my love for Saskatchewan, and my loyalty is growing. And my love for Canada is sadly diminishing. And it's
00:09:41.440 not something I wanted to happen, but it's happening nonetheless. So yeah, it's, it's like people who don't
00:09:47.860 want to divorce, but they know it's sort of the best thing for everybody involved. It's, it's strange
00:09:56.540 because, you know, the, the liberals seem to be doubling down on policies that drive separatism.
00:10:02.720 And those issues that are just so indicative of the cultural divide between Western Canada,
00:10:09.440 and Eastern Canada, Central Canada, Laurentian Canada. For example, they're, they're still hammering
00:10:16.320 on issues of gun control, they're introducing more carbon taxes to new carbon taxes, there's the
00:10:23.800 clean fuel standard, and they're going to, they announced last week that they're going to try to
00:10:28.960 meet their Paris targets, and they are not ruling out more carbon taxes or raising the carbon tax beyond
00:10:34.900 the $50 per ton that they had announced. So, I mean, it's, it's hard to keep people in the game
00:10:43.260 of Canada, when you are making them feel like they have nothing left to lose. And I think that's
00:10:49.940 where a lot of people are. They are, they are, they're realizing more and more every day that
00:10:55.420 they're disconnected. And if I were like an Alex Jonesy conspiracy theorist, you would think that
00:11:01.340 Justin Trudeau is a plant for the separatist movement in Western Canada. Because if I wanted to
00:11:06.700 push a bunch of people who are culturally alienated out of the country, I wouldn't do anything different
00:11:10.660 than what he's doing. He's doing a great job. Really well done. Spectacular work. Alienating
00:11:15.620 an entire form of your population. And it's really unfortunate. I get it. We have smaller numbers.
00:11:20.800 You know, people argue, well, that's just how democracy works. And we could get into how the
00:11:24.920 states works and how there's protections for that, that I wish we had here and all of that,
00:11:28.220 but we won't today. Unfortunately, though, it's just, it's, it's a terrible feeling to know that not
00:11:34.040 only do you not have the numbers to represent anything in the House of Commons, you also just will
00:11:37.900 never get then that advantage of having any policy created for your, your population in mind. So for
00:11:44.440 Saskatchewan, we overwhelmingly vote conservative, both provincially and nationally over and over
00:11:50.240 again, and, and completely just get basically ignored. There's no policies that are aimed towards
00:11:55.520 us. It's aimed towards, and it's not just East and West. And I try to be careful because I have so
00:11:59.500 many great friends out in the East that are so supportive of Alberta and Saskatchewan and of our oil and gas
00:12:04.780 industry. But, but it's just, like you said, it's this elitism, often a very urban rural divide.
00:12:10.200 I feel like that's huge. And that's, that's the same in the States as well. So it's just,
00:12:14.480 it's tough when you know that you, you could be doing so much better as a province or all you
00:12:19.280 really want is just some more autonomy. I don't want to change what's happening in Toronto. I don't
00:12:23.540 really care. You guys do you. I just wish we had more autonomy. And that's really what the
00:12:28.500 separatist part is about, you know, okay, great. If we can stay, we'll stay, but we can't stay
00:12:32.640 like this, not with this little power. Um, and, and premiers need to really be standing up too.
00:12:38.420 It's really disappointing when you see conservative type of premiers, um, just folding. And I'm really
00:12:43.760 hoping most days strong. Um, we'll see what happens. I mean, at least we're fighting things
00:12:48.240 like the carbon tax and, and, um, you know, firearms issues and stuff like that. So we're on the ball
00:12:53.340 anyway. Yeah. I I'd like to see more movement from Jason Kenney to seize autonomy because we have a
00:13:00.640 lot to learn from Quebec. Um, I've, I've developed a greater appreciation for Quebec these last few
00:13:09.420 years, not their politicians, but their people and how they have sort of injected sovereignty and
00:13:16.780 separatism into all parts of their culture. It's completely normal to see separatist actors,
00:13:23.620 musicians. It's part of the cultural soup of Quebec. And here we don't have that, even though
00:13:31.900 we do feel those same things that we do feel, I would suggest we are a distinct culture. I, I, I feel
00:13:39.620 we are a distinct culture. When you look at the people in Laurentia, I, uh, good people, a lot of
00:13:46.340 people who are supportive of us, but we are culturally distinct. We care about different things. We,
00:13:51.420 we were settled, we were settled for a different reason by a different kind of people. And that's
00:13:56.760 okay. It's okay to acknowledge that. I don't know when that became verboten to acknowledge that about
00:14:01.200 the West when it's a completely settled issue when it comes to Quebec. Um, I completely forgot where I
00:14:09.300 was going with that, but I'm sure you have something to add. You mentioned you have a new kind of found
00:14:13.280 respect for Quebec. So perhaps that's where you were heading with it, but, but I can certainly agree
00:14:17.460 with what you were saying in that there is a distinct culture. Um, and that's something even,
00:14:21.720 like I said, urban, rural, you know, when you get into different sort of neighborhoods with
00:14:25.480 different political sort of leanings, uh, in Saskatchewan, there is some NDP support in
00:14:30.220 particular, provincially more so. So I was actually living in a fairly NDP riding, uh, although it
00:14:35.100 doesn't make a huge difference in your day-to-day life that you would maybe notice. Um, but it's
00:14:38.700 just a different sort of mindset. So you're around people with certain mindsets. So when you move out to
00:14:42.340 the country and especially in like rural Alberta, rural Saskatchewan, although I've lived rural as
00:14:47.340 well, it's similar either way. Um, there's just an attitude. There's a something about Saskatchewan
00:14:51.980 people are just so hardy. And it is, like you said, we were settled on a different purpose. There's
00:14:57.680 every place in this country. It's such a massive country. We have very vast, uh, geographical
00:15:03.040 differences. So our weather, our climate, how we live day to day, what we need to survive,
00:15:07.860 how we get our food, um, demographics wise, everything is different. There's different
00:15:12.020 religions. There's different Aboriginal people with different languages. There's so many cultural
00:15:16.700 elements that are different in each area that it's, how could we agree on everything? Like you
00:15:20.800 said, it's not controversial to say we're all very different and we can't seem to see eye to eye.
00:15:25.800 Maybe we shouldn't have standard massive government policy to blanket a massive amount of people that
00:15:31.200 are very, very different in every possible way, just on how you make policy to affect everyone's
00:15:36.920 day-to-day life. Uh, and you touched on something that, um, sort of piqued my interest when you said
00:15:42.840 that a lot of this can be traced back to elitism. I do think that there is a class divide, uh, that,
00:15:50.040 you know, the Laurentian elites, uh, they do look down their nose at Western Canada. And I think it has a
00:15:58.080 lot to do with the fact that in this part of the world still, if you are willing to work hard,
00:16:06.420 you can still make a six figure salary with your back and your hands. And we have a lot of over
00:16:13.440 educated, useless people making rules for the rest of us in Laurentia who don't like hard work can put us
00:16:22.120 in their income range in their, um, socioeconomic power sphere. Um, they don't like that. They don't
00:16:30.020 think we belong in there. And I think a lot of that leads to their not caring if we fail, you know,
00:16:37.540 when they say, Oh, you shouldn't have spent all your money on quads and pickup trucks, not realizing
00:16:42.780 we use our quads for farming and our pickup trucks for work, um, because they can take public transit
00:16:48.720 everywhere. They do look down their nose as though we're like the Beverly hillbillies who just suddenly
00:16:53.280 struck it rich. And we're just going to blow all of our money anyway. Like those people who live in
00:16:57.000 a trailer park, who win the lottery, that's how they look at us. And, uh, it's evident in government
00:17:01.880 policy. It truly is. And I mean, that attitude, we all know that exists across the board with a lot
00:17:07.400 of citizens. You take on a lot of comments. Wasn't it just yesterday, you know, you're in,
00:17:11.440 but F Alberta. And I said, well, Saskatchewan, you know, I mean, you, you make a joke out of it
00:17:16.820 because ultimately the redneck car doesn't actually insult me. I'm, I'm quite proudly,
00:17:21.700 you know, a rural Saskatchewan girl. I've got a cowboy hat. It's not a big deal. You know,
00:17:25.520 it's just, I'm proud of these roots that I have because I was raised with, with the idea of hard
00:17:30.640 work. Like you said, it's not about, you have a degree. Great. If you, um, have to go get a
00:17:35.820 substantial amount of education for whatever your training is, a medical doctor, engineer,
00:17:39.660 fantastic. Good for you. I respect it. But this whole, that attitude of, yeah, you don't have the
00:17:44.320 letters behind your name or sort of just the, the hardworking, you know, I don't know. There's a lot
00:17:49.920 of people doing jobs that aren't glamorous, that just don't get any appreciation. And like you said,
00:17:54.820 they might make good money, but they're looked down on by the citizens. But what's, what's really a
00:17:58.440 killer is not when it's obviously other people are going to be snobs or snobs. There's always been
00:18:02.880 snobs. It's never going to end. But when you're, like you said, when policy is being written by those
00:18:07.100 people, when those people now become the leaders and they have authority over everybody. And, and we do have a
00:18:13.100 big government system set up here. We don't have enough autonomy in our individual regions. We have
00:18:18.680 way too much blanket coming out of Ottawa that just simply doesn't work for everybody. So yeah,
00:18:23.660 it starts to get a little bit messy. Um, I don't see how this is all sustainable. Personally, I want
00:18:28.600 Canada to work. Like you said, it is a relationship in many ways. Um, I just don't see how it's going to,
00:18:34.480 just the way we're moving forward. And I don't see us suddenly going more conservative. The path we're on
00:18:39.540 is very quick. Um, and I see a lot of Westerners, uh, diving in and agreeing with it and wanting
00:18:46.440 that for their communities or families, right? Their, their, their jobs. Like you said, these
00:18:49.980 pickup trucks aren't just to whatever, whatever image they have, I can only imagine. But if they
00:18:54.460 want to come here and dig themselves out of the snow with whatever little, you know, eco-friendly
00:18:59.440 vehicle they have, they can, um, come on down, please feel free. But we need tractors here. We need,
00:19:05.380 you know, when you feed the world with farmers, um, there's some things that, that change, uh,
00:19:10.620 that just people in the city don't understand. So I try to welcome it, um, to, to bring people's
00:19:15.920 awareness to the fact that something to offer some wisdom that isn't so, so stupid or backwards,
00:19:22.380 you know? Now you mentioned unsustainable and what could be more unsustainable than these COVID
00:19:28.800 restrictions, both on, on our, um, relationships with other people, but also on our businesses.
00:19:36.000 And you're in Saskatchewan and Saskatchewan was handling this all pretty well, keeping people
00:19:41.280 pretty free, pretty free for quite some time. Um, and, uh, took a more hands-off approach, which I
00:19:49.440 think we're still sort of doing in Alberta. We've sort of left it on the totalitarians who
00:19:53.440 infest our municipal governments, uh, these days to make the rules for themselves, which I guess is
00:19:59.500 the best of a worst case scenario. Right. Um, but as of November 6th, I just pulled it up on my
00:20:05.740 computer here in Saskatchewan, private indoor gatherings may have a maximum of 10 people in
00:20:11.520 the home or in buildings located on the private property. For example, garages or sheds, they're
00:20:17.540 going to kick out my garage party. If I was in Saskatchewan, the smokers in my family are going to be
00:20:23.320 very upset to hear that because that's where they're relegated. Two meters physical distancing
00:20:28.400 should also be observed when people from outside the extended household are present. Indoor public
00:20:34.200 gatherings and indoor or, and outdoor gatherings may have a maximum of 30 people where there is
00:20:40.080 enough space to maintain two meters between individuals who are not in the same house or
00:20:44.380 extended household. That's crazy. And you sort of experienced this firsthand because you were
00:20:50.600 singing in church and you had to wear a mask while singing in church because you couldn't be a
00:20:55.960 gazillion miles away from the congregation. So I don't have my own pod, therefore, you know, had to
00:21:01.860 wear a mask. So yeah, it's, it's Sheila, it's, it's good timing because this just happened Sunday. So
00:21:07.260 this was as of November 6th, as you said. So everything was pretty standard and pretty stable
00:21:11.700 until then. At the time, up until November 6th, how it worked was in congregations, if the, if the
00:21:17.240 congregation sang, they had to put on a mask and then they could take it off when they were done
00:21:21.000 singing just because of droplet spread and so on. It increases when you sing. Fine. We, you know,
00:21:26.580 we handled that. Worship team was allowed to, to carry forward, except the people in the back who
00:21:31.720 were so close to say my back. So drummer, et cetera. Vocalists didn't have to wear masks, obviously.
00:21:37.000 And the pastor didn't have to wear one either. Now, as of November 6th, the pastor is exempt.
00:21:41.440 So he doesn't have to wear a mask, but all of the musicians and every person has to wear it
00:21:45.220 throughout the whole service period, end of discussion, even if you are a vocalist. So
00:21:49.440 I was a little nervous because I find that it makes me quite dizzy after. I can do it. I can
00:21:54.720 belt it. I can still sing as normal, but I don't feel the same after as I would without it because
00:21:59.480 you're diaphragmatically breathing. You're trying to dig deep down in there. You're not doing that
00:22:03.560 when you speak normally. It's a different type of breathing. Vocalists are trained with breath and
00:22:08.300 everything is about manipulation and control of the breath using your face. So when you have to cover
00:22:12.700 your face, it makes it really tricky. And I know it's a minor thing, but it's just, it's not minor
00:22:18.820 because it's actually doesn't fix anything. I'm not helping anybody not get COVID. I wasn't a risk
00:22:23.540 to anybody. I'm 20 feet away from anyone. I could have been further. There was no need for it. And
00:22:29.240 that's what's bothering me is the nonsensical measures that are being taken. It's not so much
00:22:33.080 just that they exist. It's that they don't actually do anything. And yeah, these measures with private
00:22:38.900 gatherings, thankfully, at least for church, they've allowed the maximum to stay. So I think it was
00:22:42.680 150. That hasn't changed. But for all the other gatherings, they've gotten much more strict. I
00:22:48.140 don't know what the enforcement's been like here yet, but it's fairly new. So I'm, I'm, I just don't
00:22:54.920 even know. I just, I'm so down about, honestly, the direction that this is going. And I hate the way
00:22:59.800 that it has changed society and how we treat each other. I hate going out to get groceries. I hate all
00:23:04.720 of it because we're all just weird now. And I really don't like the dystopia that this has become
00:23:09.900 at all. And I don't feel that it's necessary given where I just don't feel like it's relative
00:23:14.600 to what we need to be doing personally. Yeah. It has changed how we interact with each other.
00:23:20.040 Like when you go into a grocery store, there are people who are maskers and not maskers. And if you
00:23:27.520 are someone who either can't wear a mask or won't wear a mask, you are already emotionally prepared
00:23:34.380 to deal with the people who are going to be angry at you because you don't have a mask on.
00:23:39.520 Oh, if it looks good, kill. Hey, I mean, my goodness. Now in Prince Albert, it's, there's
00:23:44.020 three communities that have that mask law, by the way, it's not everywhere in Saskatchewan.
00:23:47.900 I should clarify. So it's Prince Albert, Saskatoon and Regina, presumably just higher numbers,
00:23:52.200 more cases. So in my town, I don't have to, but here I do. But yeah, it's, it's so now everybody
00:23:58.420 is. But before that I would go in if I wasn't wearing one. And sometimes you wear one just so you
00:24:02.860 don't deal with, I just don't want to deal with the stairs right now. I am not in the mood as you
00:24:06.860 throw the stupid thing on and go in. Right. Yeah. Crazy. It's crazy. It's like there's,
00:24:11.400 they're starting the shaming and the dehumanizing and the media is just pushing it. And it's,
00:24:15.760 it's really unfortunate because they've taken this issue and just ramped it into every possible
00:24:20.580 worst way, worst case scenario for psych health and medical health and hospitals being shut down
00:24:26.960 businesses, the economy, they've just destroyed so much with this. And I, that's where I think the
00:24:32.660 cure has definitely become worse than the disease itself. So. I mean, and it's so nonsensical.
00:24:39.240 I can't have 10 people. It's all over the place. I can't have 10 people standing in my garage with
00:24:44.100 the garage door open, but let's just crowd everybody into Walmart. Exactly. That was the only place that
00:24:50.040 was open for the longest time. Now talking about churches, I just wanted to get your opinion on this
00:24:54.820 because this is something that I've been pretty seriously interested in. And we should have some news
00:25:02.120 about it shortly, but, um, pastor Vernon temple who runs the, uh, full gospel outreach center in Prince
00:25:13.620 Albert. He was fined $14,000 because they didn't sing with masks on. And then they had a coronavirus
00:25:25.020 outbreak that was allegedly linked back to their church. Although there is some disputing that
00:25:31.420 upon further digging, but it didn't just stop there because an evangelist with the church was also
00:25:37.420 personally fined. I think it was $3,000. This one church that does work in Prince Albert's downtown
00:25:46.460 core. So, you know, the kind of work that they're doing. Yeah. $18,000. And as best as I can tell,
00:25:55.200 there's been, there were no prior attempts to work with the church before they find them. And
00:26:01.880 I've spoken to pastor Vernon. He works with, um, people who live on the streets. How can you expect
00:26:12.720 them to wear masks? They're, they live on the street. They're coming in to warm up, but this is
00:26:18.660 the kind of heavy handed stuff that's happening at the municipal level. And for me, I hope this
00:26:26.180 coronavirus, if one good thing comes from it, it's a wake up call for conservatives who have basically
00:26:31.480 sort of ignored what goes on at the municipal level to get involved again, because these are the
00:26:37.840 ones who are taking our freedom away. It's not Jason Kenney. It's not Scott Moe. It's the municipal
00:26:42.420 politicians. Yes, very true. And people often just, when you get interested in bigger politics,
00:26:48.940 you start looking at national politics, US, you know, crazy shows going on down there. People forget
00:26:53.980 about the importance of civil politics and, and, and we really need to be getting involved, whether it's
00:26:58.840 running or whether it's just supporting and learning and, and getting in there, getting into meetings.
00:27:03.100 Like these are the things that most directly affect our day-to-day life. And like you said,
00:27:08.440 when it comes to the draconian stuff, as much as we dislike Trudeau, a lot of this stuff has come down
00:27:13.240 from both provincial and more regional municipal governments. So it's, it's not just Trudeau,
00:27:18.580 right? There's a lot of people that are enjoying the power trip of this, and we need to be cautious
00:27:23.180 of that and be standing against that wherever we can. Yeah, I'd heard about this story in PA.
00:27:27.880 There's been nothing that I've seen really reported on it since. I think you're one of the few
00:27:31.500 people probably working on any updates on it. So you hear the initial accusation, you hear that
00:27:36.140 they did all these terrible things, something about food, dishing out food, or they broke all
00:27:40.740 these rules supposedly, and then the fine, and then you don't hear really anything else. So you're left
00:27:45.580 with this sort of story of this big, bad church that did all these terrible things. What I thought
00:27:49.860 of when I first heard of it, because of the location, was the rebel story in Calgary. It was a while
00:27:55.380 back when this all started. I can't remember his name, Arthur, does that sound correct?
00:27:58.800 Yes. So he had, of course, been helping the poorest of the poor, often those with mental
00:28:04.200 illness, addictions, and getting fined. And I feel like that's sort of maybe similar here
00:28:09.040 without knowing all the details. You know more than me. But it's disappointing because we have
00:28:14.120 a lot of poverty in PA. There's a lot of crime. There's a lot of people that need some help.
00:28:19.160 And I've seen some of the ministry that goes on downtown, whether it's just street ministry,
00:28:24.160 people setting up tents in the summer, whether it's the churches. They do a lot for people that's
00:28:29.400 not even just Christian related. They're just, they open their doors. And it's disappointing to
00:28:34.000 see this. They do a lot for First Nations people. They do a lot for all of the groups that usually
00:28:38.200 the government is pandering to. And they're still getting nailed for this. And I just think the
00:28:43.260 amounts of money are atrocious. That much money for any church is hard to come up with, let alone
00:28:48.460 probably an, you know, underfunded, under donated to small struggling church. These people aren't
00:28:54.620 these preachers down in the States. This isn't Joel Olsteen and whoever else making, you know,
00:28:59.980 millions of dollars with their private jets. We're talking about good people that make very little
00:29:03.280 cash that are trying to help those least fortunate, whether you like Christians or not is not the
00:29:07.680 point. This is, you know, just, and what astounds me, Sheila, is how quickly people will judge now and
00:29:12.800 say, oh good, I'm so glad that, you know, they're so happy that people are getting punished. They don't even
00:29:17.100 want to hear the other side. That's the weird part. They're just excited about it. And then all the
00:29:22.000 other churches are now powering because they're scared to be called out because now everybody's
00:29:25.820 watching the churches and it's just, it's a mess. Yeah, I'm not feeling good about the direction this
00:29:31.140 is going at all. And I wouldn't be surprised if they close our doors down again, to be honest,
00:29:35.260 just in general, churches in general. Yeah, I think as the case counts continue to go up,
00:29:39.940 as case counts for anything do, when the weather gets cold. When you reopen and the weather gets cold.
00:29:44.720 When the weather gets cold and people come inside. And so you've got a bunch of people
00:29:48.240 in confined spaces together. Naturally, the bugs go around. That's why flu season is when flu season
00:29:54.500 is. And kids, once they go back to school, always have a runny nose. I mean, it's just,
00:29:59.220 it's accepted knowledge that seems people don't seem to be applying to the coronavirus outbreak. So
00:30:06.520 yeah, I think, I think we are going to see, oh no, case counts are exploding. They love that word
00:30:12.420 exploding. I know. They pick the scariest words. And sometimes that means two or three. You know,
00:30:18.080 the outbreak, you know, in capital letters, it just, it's so, they just, the fear, the fear. And
00:30:23.620 I'm not saying don't have a healthy respect for viruses. At the beginning of this, I made a video
00:30:27.640 saying, I take it seriously. I have, I'm someone who's dealt with health issues from a virus.
00:30:31.540 When I was in high school, I still deal with them now. I understand the devastation, not just deaths
00:30:36.840 that can come from long-term viral effects. But that being said, we're not doing this for any other
00:30:41.200 diseases. There's a lot of things out there that can take you down. And we just do not do this
00:30:44.840 because you recognize that your immune system needs some element of exposure to germs. We're all
00:30:50.020 hand sanitizing now. No one's around each other. I just think this is bad news bears on a lot of
00:30:54.740 fronts. So. Yeah. And I don't like the mandatory nature of it all. And I'm not, I'm not necessarily
00:31:01.820 a libertarian. I'm a conservative. So I think there's like a role for the social order and stuff like
00:31:07.560 that. However, if people know, if you give them all the information and you tell them, okay, this
00:31:13.780 is what we recommend that you do. Great. Back off. Yeah. They'll make, people can make their choices
00:31:19.120 like they do with everything else in society. With everything else. And so many other things
00:31:23.200 that are dangerous too, but we have full control over that, but then zero over this. Yeah. People
00:31:28.880 are getting a little authoritarian and not just the government officials, but citizens just turning on
00:31:33.420 each other. It's, it's weird. People enjoy snarking and ratting people out. It's just bizarre. I don't
00:31:38.920 love what it's doing to our psychology. It's bringing out some very interesting personality
00:31:43.360 traits. I'll leave it there. Yeah. There's a lot of Lord of the flies things happening out there right
00:31:49.300 now. I wanted to ask you, cause I know we're already running over time, but I could probably talk to
00:31:55.920 you all day. Um, yes. Uh, the American election, we should talk about it because that's, I mean,
00:32:03.320 it's sucking up all the oxygen in news media these days and we're recording, we're recording this on
00:32:08.460 Tuesday afternoon. This will go to air Wednesday evening. So things could change between now and
00:32:13.800 then, but so far we, I guess Joe Biden is the presumed president elect. Although I think it's pretty
00:32:21.920 clear that there's been a lot of electoral fraud. Uh, so without, I guess, getting involved in who's,
00:32:30.700 who's going to be what, when, um, what does a potential Biden presidency mean for Saskatchewan?
00:32:40.420 Well, I'm concerned for the States in general. I mean, just for them and the direction that they're
00:32:46.300 going to head to me, they're going to just start becoming more Canadian in many ways. And while I'm
00:32:49.980 love many things about this country and the States isn't perfect, I don't ever want to see them lose
00:32:54.880 their Liberty. I don't want to see them messing around with their constitution. I don't want to
00:32:58.980 see them taking the things that made them, you know, we talk about how something is founded.
00:33:03.180 The intention of the States when they were founded is based on freedom and Liberty and to start messing
00:33:08.860 with that and changing the very path that you took when you started is very dangerous. So I'm
00:33:13.560 concerned for them primarily, but for Saskatchewan, yeah, it's going to affect Saskatchewan. It's going to
00:33:17.160 affect Alberta. It's going to affect anybody in the oil and gas industry because we had a little
00:33:21.180 bit of hope. It sounded like coming forth with Trump there, uh, before the election with, you
00:33:26.420 know, potentially new pipelines and some projects that would help our oil and gas industry. But
00:33:30.760 we are obviously up against a lot of legislation, uh, nationally for, for dealing with anything for,
00:33:37.080 for oil and gas production. And now we don't even have that little glimmer of hope,
00:33:41.540 you know, if, if in fact Biden and it all comes out and he's, he's the winner. Um, cause
00:33:45.800 even with the fraud, I know like Tucker Carlson was saying this morning or whenever he last
00:33:49.620 had a, an episode, you know, admittedly he might still very well win, even if with all
00:33:54.300 of these fraudulent ballots, even if it all comes to light, it could still be a Biden win,
00:33:58.320 but at least it would be done. You know, you'd know it was done fairly, but it, it does
00:34:01.800 concern me, uh, oil and gas industry being the first big one, green new deal. Um, and anything
00:34:07.100 that happens down there, it affects us. So whether it's cost of items, you know, it doesn't really
00:34:11.000 matter whether it's the economy. I'm worried that, um, our leaders will get along. I think
00:34:16.580 that Trudeau and Biden will get along just fine. And ultimately it's going to be Harris. Let's
00:34:20.260 admit it. Harris is going to be in there so fast and they're going to push him out as soon as
00:34:24.600 possible. Um, yeah, it's going to be great. And, you know, there's going to be this great
00:34:28.340 narrative about great progressive Canada, the States with their, their first, um, person of
00:34:33.780 color woman, you know, that that's really what they want is that identity politics. And it's
00:34:37.360 going to be, it's going to look real nice on the outside. Um, really concerns me though,
00:34:41.740 as to what direction it just feels like everything's going to ramp up when it comes to the general
00:34:46.040 direction we're taking, um, towards more of a socialist sort of view of things and more
00:34:50.720 government control. Um, mostly oil and gas. So I have a lot of family in the oil and gas industry
00:34:56.260 and region, and I hate seeing what's happened to my home community. It's just been torn apart and
00:35:01.460 it's not because there's no demand for oil and gas worldwide. There is. Um, but if you'd listen
00:35:06.400 to our politicians and media, you'd think that there's none. Um, so it really, the, the limitations
00:35:10.460 are being placed on us, forced on us by government. So I'm just concerned that's going to get worse.
00:35:15.780 I'm also very concerned about the implications for free speech. Um, Justin Trudeau would love to
00:35:21.420 crack down on free speech here in Canada. And one of the things that sort of acted as a protector
00:35:27.080 was that many of these companies, these social media oligarchs, they're located in the United
00:35:33.080 States. And so Donald Trump being a very pro free speech president, you know, at least there was
00:35:39.320 that sort of buffer zone. Um, but now with Biden and Trudeau, internet regulation is coming very fast.
00:35:48.080 I think at all of us, I would agree with that. That's the one part of the constitution. There's
00:35:51.880 so many things that they have. They don't even so many people down there don't realize how blessed
00:35:55.800 they are and why those things were placed into the constitution, like free speech, for example,
00:36:00.340 you know, their amendments, you know, the, their, their gun rights as well. These are things that
00:36:03.640 need to be cherished, but instead people want to abolish them. And free speech being that, that
00:36:07.340 pivotal thing I never used to care about until I got into Jordan Peterson and started looking into,
00:36:12.460 you know, the implications when societies can't speak anymore, you know, where does that go?
00:36:17.300 And it's terrifying. And I wish more people were aware of it and would care about it. Again,
00:36:21.560 normies, they don't even think about how blessed they are to be able to speak and what it would look
00:36:25.380 like if they can't, although I'd argue Canadians are socially censoring a lot. We already feel like
00:36:30.880 we can't speak even if we legally still can. So yeah, I think things will get worse. As far as
00:36:35.980 internet, all kinds of censorship, as well as the support for the UN. That's something that Trump
00:36:41.140 also did was he, he put up a bit of a wall when it came to globalism and saying, no, we don't want
00:36:46.080 a lot of the things the UN is pushing. And I don't think Biden's going to be that guy either. So
00:36:50.520 they're going to be in a similar boat to us if they're not careful.
00:36:54.540 You know, careful what you wish for, because you just might get it. Kelly, I want to give you,
00:36:59.980 I want to thank you, first of all, for being so generous with your time, but I want to give you
00:37:03.280 a chance to let everybody find the work that you do, because you are a YouTuber and you do a lot of
00:37:09.320 social commentary. So why don't you let everybody know?
00:37:13.180 Sure. Well, I've been on a bit of a hiatus, just taking care of some personal stuff, dealing with
00:37:16.860 some health issues. So I haven't been making much content, but please feel free to peruse what I've
00:37:21.000 done. A lot of it's still relevant today. Things just kind of keep happening. So I can be found on
00:37:26.260 YouTube under Kelly Lamb, which is my myriad name. I believe if you type in Kelly Day, you're still
00:37:31.260 going to find a whole bunch of stuff. It's still tagged there. So you can check me out there. I am
00:37:36.040 going to be getting back into more regular content. A lot of it's going to be focusing on politics,
00:37:40.860 but also postmodernism and the new age and infiltration into the church and into society.
00:37:47.140 So that's something that's a big passion of mine. So that'll be a big part of what I do.
00:37:51.300 And also I'm on Twitter. I like to go in there and duke it out once in a while and make the odd
00:37:55.660 posts. So you can certainly find me there. That's at Kelly our day 19 is my handle. So those are the
00:38:01.180 two main places. My email is available. You can always reach out, DM me, whatever you'd like.
00:38:05.180 And I'm always happy to have good conversations. So. Oh, Kelly. Well, it was a real pleasure to have
00:38:11.720 you on the show today. It's been far too long. We'll have you back on again very, very soon.
00:38:16.340 Absolutely. Thank you so much, Sheila. Have yourself a wonderful day. You too.
00:38:26.900 It's Remembrance Day today, and I'm very sad to see the freedoms so many have died for
00:38:31.760 being eroded by a disease that has a 0.7% mortality rate, at least in Saskatchewan.
00:38:39.120 We say lest we forget, but I worry that too many people already have. Well, everyone, that's the
00:38:45.520 show for tonight. Thank you so much, as always, for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here at the
00:38:50.980 same time in the same place next week. And remember, don't let the government tell you that
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