Rebel News Podcast - November 15, 2019


PROOF: “The state of journalism in 2019 is worse than you think”


Episode Stats

Length

32 minutes

Words per Minute

151.46056

Word Count

4,848

Sentence Count

372

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

In this episode of The Ezra LeVant Show, host Ezra Levenoran tells the story of a crazy story out of Northwestern University, where a conservative speaker was invited to campus to give a speech, and the left had a problem with it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey Rebels, today I tell you a story out of Illinois, Northwestern University to be precise.
00:00:06.080 It's a crazy story. It's a fun story. It's an American story, but I think it's a Canadian story too.
00:00:13.260 You'll be the judge of that. Before I go, may I invite you to become a premium member of The Rebel.
00:00:19.620 Go to premium.rebelnews.com. It's eight bucks a month, and you get the video version of this podcast,
00:00:25.920 which I think is great. All right, here's today's show.
00:00:30.000 Tonight, I want to show you the state of journalism in 2019. No, it's worse than you think.
00:00:50.680 It's November 14th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:55.520 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:59.040 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:03.380 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:14.040 Do you know the name Jeff Sessions? He used to be a U.S. senator, really one of the first to endorse Donald Trump
00:01:21.680 in the Republican primaries a few years back.
00:01:25.020 That really helped Trump. It was a sign that someone in the establishment took him seriously,
00:01:31.240 and that someone with strong conservative bona fides believed Trump was a conservative.
00:01:36.600 You have to remember, back in 2015 especially, most Republicans took Trump as if not a joke,
00:01:44.600 just a lighthearted, also-ran, maybe some sort of performance art, something unserious.
00:01:50.860 No one could believe that it could happen, especially in those early days.
00:01:55.260 There was, what, more than a dozen candidates.
00:01:57.180 And people thought maybe he was even un-Republican.
00:02:02.640 But Jeff Sessions, in his early endorsement, was a significant counterpoint to that.
00:02:08.760 And Trump rewarded Sessions by appointing him Attorney General, where he served for 18 months.
00:02:16.720 He took a hard line on some issues, very conservative.
00:02:19.980 For example, Jeff Sessions really opposed so-called sanctuary cities, where local politicians just declare
00:02:26.320 they won't enforce immigration laws, even against violent criminals.
00:02:30.700 Anyways, Sessions served.
00:02:33.300 Trump grew tired of him and sacked him.
00:02:35.680 And wouldn't you know it, now Sessions is looking to get back into the Alabama Senate.
00:02:40.760 I sort of like this campaign ad.
00:02:43.140 Jeff Sessions here. I approved this ad.
00:02:45.720 When I left President Trump's cabinet, did I write a tell-all book?
00:02:50.000 No.
00:02:50.780 Did I go on CNN and attack the president?
00:02:53.440 Nope.
00:02:54.440 Have I said a crossword about our president?
00:02:57.160 Not one time.
00:02:58.460 And I'll tell you why.
00:03:00.080 First, that would be dishonorable.
00:03:02.220 I was there to serve his agenda, not mine.
00:03:05.860 Second, the president's doing a great job for America and Alabama.
00:03:10.860 And he has my strong support.
00:03:13.000 Trump is being mean to Sessions, to use a word.
00:03:15.900 But I thought that was a pretty high-minded response by Sessions.
00:03:19.300 I don't know if he'll win.
00:03:21.000 I don't think he's Trump's favorite, but there it is.
00:03:23.840 Anyways, whatever you think of Jeff Sessions, he's a man of consequence.
00:03:28.080 He's former attorney general of his own state, former U.S. attorney.
00:03:32.360 He was a senator in Washington for a decade, then Trump's attorney general.
00:03:35.500 Or maybe you think he's a footnote.
00:03:37.420 But the Republican Student Club at a university in Illinois called Northwestern University,
00:03:44.200 they thought Sessions was interesting enough to invite to campus to give a speech.
00:03:47.600 And if you don't think so, don't go.
00:03:50.560 Or go and protest, whatever.
00:03:52.240 I don't know.
00:03:53.360 Of course, as usual, the left on campus had a freakout.
00:03:57.740 Here are some details about their reaction, as published by the student newspaper called
00:04:02.060 The Daily Northwestern.
00:04:04.260 Over 150 students protested the event, some holding signs and others chanting F.U.C.K. Sessions.
00:04:13.540 Protesters also stormed the back entrance to Lutkin and attempted to enter the hall by climbing
00:04:20.780 through windows and opening doors.
00:04:23.900 University police officers followed students into Lutkin, knocking some protesters to the
00:04:29.020 ground and pushing others out.
00:04:30.920 And here's the university's president, Morton Shapiro, as reported in the newspaper.
00:04:38.760 Unlike other colleges, Northwestern University PD prevented the protests from fully disrupting
00:04:44.700 Sessions' speech effectively, Shapiro said.
00:04:47.900 Quote,
00:04:48.700 The police force showed tremendous restraint and professionalism to make sure that people
00:04:52.680 couldn't rush in, he said.
00:04:54.280 I wish it could have gone better.
00:04:55.940 We have a responsibility for a speaker.
00:04:57.720 I'm not a fan of the former attorney general, but he's not going to get hurt at my campus.
00:05:03.480 Although some universities grant amnesty to student protesters, Shapiro emphasized that
00:05:07.800 Northwestern has no such policy.
00:05:09.800 He said NU makes the rules of engagement very clear.
00:05:13.200 You can protest, you can't hurt anybody, and you can't shut down speech.
00:05:18.240 And if you do, you're going to face the consequences.
00:05:20.440 I think that's much more enlightened than many other universities where they cave in to the
00:05:26.100 cancelers and the de-platformers and the violent thugs.
00:05:29.040 I sort of like that guy, just based on what I read here.
00:05:33.240 Now, of course, the student government at Northwestern is as awful as you'd imagine.
00:05:38.300 Hardcore left-wing, of course, grievance mongers.
00:05:42.080 Here's a story in the Northwestern.
00:05:43.460 ASG introduces resolution following Sessions protests to support students of marginalized
00:05:51.080 identities.
00:05:51.740 Let me read this from the student paper.
00:05:55.340 In response to student protests against former U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions' speech
00:05:59.500 at Northwestern, the Associated Student Government introduced an emergency resolution during its
00:06:06.320 November 6th session to provide students with more time and resources.
00:06:10.980 The resolution, which passed 28 to 2, with two abstention votes, called on the university
00:06:15.960 to reconsider attendance policies for students who hold marginalized identities and may have
00:06:22.440 been impacted by the protests, the legislation states.
00:06:26.100 It also seeks to expand comprehensive counseling and the Center for Awareness, Response, and Education.
00:06:34.000 As in, if you're a minority and Jeff Sessions hurt your feelings, you get special grief counselors and more
00:06:43.320 time to do your homework.
00:06:45.320 And I'm up-talking all of those sentences, because I'm sure that's how it was spoken at the university
00:06:51.440 student government, whose graduates will go on to be part of the real student government,
00:06:56.220 real government, grown-up government, soon enough.
00:06:58.540 Where do you think AOC came from?
00:07:00.120 Okay, what flavor of popcorn?
00:07:03.140 Um, this is just normal butter popcorn, but I have a secret.
00:07:10.920 I put ground pepper over my popcorn, and it adds a little, like, savory dimension.
00:07:19.200 It just makes, you know, like pop secret, but gourmet.
00:07:23.020 Anyways, so I didn't mention that Northwestern has what is regarded as one of the United States'
00:07:30.420 leading journalism schools.
00:07:32.640 It's true.
00:07:34.080 Which is why they also have a daily student newspaper.
00:07:36.980 So this isn't just a hobby or an extracurricular, this Northwestern, daily Northwestern paper I've
00:07:43.000 been quoting from.
00:07:43.600 It's training for baby journalists.
00:07:46.300 Here's one of their student reporters covering Jeff Sessions' speech, or more accurately, covering
00:07:50.880 the protests outside.
00:07:53.020 Here's another one.
00:08:01.440 Protesters tried to rush the room where Sessions was speaking.
00:08:05.160 No justice, no peace.
00:08:10.920 No justice, no peace.
00:08:15.200 No justice, no peace.
00:08:19.480 No justice, no peace.
00:08:21.080 Okay, here's the report on the protests in the newspaper.
00:08:24.260 Really nothing about the speech itself.
00:08:26.740 Students protest Jeff Sessions' speech.
00:08:29.840 Police presence.
00:08:30.640 So let me read a little bit, because it's a window into what it's like on campuses these
00:08:34.780 days.
00:08:35.420 And I don't think it's much better up here in Canada.
00:08:37.920 Students on Tuesday protested Northwestern College Republicans' decision to host former
00:08:44.740 Attorney General Jeff Sessions, chanting outside Lutkin Hall before attempting to interrupt
00:08:50.280 Sessions' talk by climbing through open windows and pushing through doors.
00:08:55.000 Around 150 protesters, some holding signs reading, no concessions, no racism, no KKK, no fascist
00:09:01.960 USA.
00:09:02.400 And Sessions is a traitor, gathered outside the lecture hall before Sessions was scheduled
00:09:07.420 to speak at 7 p.m., booing and yelling as attendees entered the building.
00:09:11.680 Sessions' talk, hosted by NUCR, was titled The Real Meaning of the Trump Agenda.
00:09:17.320 Some protesters chanted, hey, hey, JBS, you got us into this mess.
00:09:22.320 And I-C-E-K-K-K, how many kids have you killed today?
00:09:27.380 While others called attendees clowns and urged them to stop disguising their racism as free
00:09:32.560 speech.
00:09:33.360 Okay.
00:09:34.520 So they're a bit crazy, or maybe more than a little bit crazy.
00:09:37.800 And they're lying, by the way.
00:09:40.600 In fact, I think I mentioned before that Sessions was a prosecutor back in Alabama before he was
00:09:47.080 a senator.
00:09:47.440 He's the one who, almost 40 years ago, filed civil rights charges against the KKK for killing
00:09:55.160 a black man.
00:09:56.860 That bankrupted the KKK in Alabama.
00:09:59.300 So yeah, sort of the opposite of a racist, but that's too much journalism-ing for Northwestern.
00:10:05.620 But look at this.
00:10:06.380 Look at this.
00:10:08.000 A few days after Sessions' visit, look at this editorial in the student newspaper, addressing
00:10:13.120 the Daily's coverage of Sessions' protests.
00:10:16.100 Okay.
00:10:17.440 What do you have to say?
00:10:20.260 Last week, the Daily was not the paper that Northwestern students deserve.
00:10:25.820 Huh?
00:10:27.200 On November 5th, former Attorney General Jeff Sessions spoke on campus at a Northwestern
00:10:31.360 University College Republicans event.
00:10:33.380 The Daily sent a reporter to cover that talk, and another to cover the students protesting
00:10:37.780 his invitation to campus, along with a photographer.
00:10:40.120 We recognized that we contributed to the harm students experienced, and we wanted to apologize
00:10:52.540 for and address the mistakes that we made that night, along with how we plan to move forward.
00:10:58.180 I'm sorry.
00:10:58.720 I just read it.
00:11:00.780 What?
00:11:01.740 You were reporters.
00:11:02.680 You contributed to the harm.
00:11:03.960 You ran a story that was pretty much 100% in support of the protesters and against Sessions,
00:11:08.800 by the way.
00:11:09.260 What on earth do you mean?
00:11:10.180 Well, I'll read some more.
00:11:10.800 One area of our reporting that harmed many students was our photo coverage of the events.
00:11:17.780 Some protesters found the photos posted to reporters' Twitter accounts re-traumatizing
00:11:23.260 and invasive.
00:11:24.700 Those photos have since been taken down.
00:11:26.840 Sorry, guys.
00:11:27.540 On one hand, as the paper of record for Northwestern, we want to ensure students, administrators,
00:11:32.980 and alumni understand the gravity of the events that took place Tuesday night.
00:11:36.600 However, we decided to prioritize the trust and safety of students who were photographed.
00:11:42.360 We feel that covering traumatic events requires a different response than many other stories.
00:11:47.500 While our goal is to document history and spread information, nothing is more important
00:11:51.240 than ensuring that our fellow students feel safe.
00:11:54.460 And in situations like this, that they are benefiting from coverage rather than being
00:11:58.800 harmed actively, actively harmed by it.
00:12:00.800 We failed to do that last week, and we could not be more sorry.
00:12:03.900 Really?
00:12:04.580 You couldn't be more sorry.
00:12:05.960 This is the sorriest you could ever be in the whole world.
00:12:10.680 You know, that whole safe spaces thing, that whole triggering thing, I think that was
00:12:14.540 just supposed to be a meme or like a joke or sarcasm.
00:12:17.620 It's not unsafe to take photos of protesters.
00:12:21.780 That's actually why protesters protest.
00:12:25.420 It's why people bring signs to protest and have those rhyming chants.
00:12:30.260 They want to spread a message to the public.
00:12:33.020 It's why they're in public.
00:12:35.680 But get this.
00:12:37.760 Some students also voiced concern about the methods that daily staffers used to reach out
00:12:42.920 to them.
00:12:43.160 Oh, okay, this has got to be really bad.
00:12:44.740 Some of our staff members who were covering the event used Northwestern's directory to
00:12:51.740 obtain phone numbers for students beforehand and texted them to ask if they'd be willing
00:12:57.120 to be interviewed.
00:13:00.500 Okay, so where's the bad part?
00:13:03.220 We recognize being contacted like this is an invasion of privacy.
00:13:06.980 And we've spoken with those reporters along with our entire staff about the correct way
00:13:12.380 to reach out to students for stories.
00:13:15.660 So don't use phones or is it don't use phone books?
00:13:22.100 So you're saying journalists politely contacting people whose names are in a public phone directory
00:13:30.500 asking nicely in advance if they would like to be interviewed.
00:13:37.460 That's actually journalism.
00:13:40.140 Now, sometimes the answer to such a journalist inquiry is no or even to say no very rudely.
00:13:47.320 Hell no.
00:13:47.940 Oh, okay.
00:13:49.180 Well, that's part of journalism, too.
00:13:50.320 But to apologize?
00:13:53.220 That's an extremely long and boring op-ed by Northwestern, the Daily Northwestern.
00:13:57.380 And I keep thinking, this is satire, right?
00:13:59.700 This is like The Onion or the Babylon Bee or some joke?
00:14:03.100 No.
00:14:04.360 Unfortunately, the Daily Northwestern, let me read some more.
00:14:07.100 Ultimately, the Daily failed to consider our impact in our reporting surrounding Jeff Sessions.
00:14:13.580 We know we hurt students that night, especially those who identify with marginalized groups.
00:14:20.100 According to the Society of Professional Journalists Code of Ethics,
00:14:23.660 ethical journalism treats sources, subjects, colleagues, and members of the public as human beings deserving of respect.
00:14:31.140 So you're apologizing because by telling people what happened in the world,
00:14:35.940 you have hurt their feelings and they feel disrespected.
00:14:39.780 You know, maybe you did hurt their feelings.
00:14:42.720 Could be.
00:14:44.580 But if you care about that, you are in the wrong profession.
00:14:47.440 You should be in the bubble wrap business or the noise-canceling earphones business or,
00:14:53.220 I don't know, social work or vacation getaways or something where people can avoid bad things.
00:14:58.400 Anything, really.
00:14:59.440 Anything other than journalism.
00:15:01.100 Except that this is journalism by student journalists at one of the leading journalism schools in America,
00:15:09.300 so they say.
00:15:11.220 And these baby reporters are all about to graduate and go work in real newspapers and radio stations and TV stations
00:15:17.640 and websites around America,
00:15:20.440 which is reason 14 million why you can never trust the mainstream media.
00:15:27.660 It's just sad, too.
00:15:31.140 Don't you think?
00:15:32.980 Stay with us for more.
00:15:34.020 Hello, my friends.
00:15:47.440 Ezra Levant here.
00:15:48.460 Let me check what time it is.
00:15:49.900 It's 4.08 p.m.
00:15:53.400 Greenwich Mean Time,
00:15:54.780 which tells you that I'm in London in the United Kingdom.
00:15:57.780 I have just stepped into a vehicle outside the Royal Courts of Justice at which the High Court is located,
00:16:05.320 and I am now driving to Heathrow.
00:16:06.720 Hopefully, I'll make my flight,
00:16:08.380 though with the traffic the way it is in this country, you never know.
00:16:13.060 The reason I was in London is the reason I'm usually in London,
00:16:16.560 which is to cover the latest litigation involving our friend Tommy Robinson.
00:16:21.460 When I was last out here, I was actually in Luton, which is Tommy's hometown,
00:16:27.400 about 45 minutes north of London, an hour north.
00:16:31.420 And that was when the police and prosecution were suing Tommy to ban him from attending any football game in the United Kingdom,
00:16:39.980 or as they call it here, they call it football, what we call in North America, soccer.
00:16:44.280 I thought that was a bizarre case.
00:16:45.800 It was the Crown Prosecution Service.
00:16:49.220 It was the police.
00:16:50.100 It was literally the state deciding that Tommy Robinson was the most dangerous person
00:16:57.080 because he goes to those football games, and we better stop that.
00:17:02.320 You got 23,000 jihadis running around this country,
00:17:08.500 according to MI5, MI6, one of those MIs.
00:17:12.600 But Tommy Robinson going to football games was what they were prosecuting for.
00:17:17.340 That's what I was doing in Luton about a month ago.
00:17:19.760 But a couple of days ago, Tommy Robinson called me up and said,
00:17:23.180 as I've got this civil litigation against me at the high court,
00:17:27.280 it's a defamation case where a young Syrian migrant, who's a student,
00:17:33.840 purportedly attacked a British girl at school.
00:17:40.360 Sorry, it's a little bit bumpy, so the camera's jiggling around.
00:17:43.300 So Tommy reported on this, as he says he took the other side of the story.
00:17:48.800 And the kid, his name is Jamal, sued Tommy for a defamation.
00:17:57.980 And that's what we were in court for today.
00:18:02.440 But we weren't here for a substantive hearing.
00:18:07.720 We didn't actually get into the substance of the case.
00:18:13.960 We didn't hear any witnesses.
00:18:15.260 There was no testimony.
00:18:16.340 What it was instead was the lawyers,
00:18:23.240 they talked about one of the issues regarding the witnesses for about 10 minutes.
00:18:27.820 But then for about an hour and a half,
00:18:29.440 the lawyers talked with each other and with the judge about their fees.
00:18:35.780 I've never seen anything like it in my life.
00:18:38.000 I'm a former lawyer myself, and of course I've been involved in litigation,
00:18:42.400 both giving and receiving, in North America and even in other countries.
00:18:49.800 But I have never seen a thing like I saw today.
00:18:54.300 So the litigation is in its early stages.
00:18:58.860 The trial has not happened yet.
00:19:00.060 And yet there were five lawyers in the room,
00:19:03.660 and they were calling for more lawyers.
00:19:06.140 There was a proposal to have seven lawyers on this case.
00:19:10.660 And the lawyers were talking with each other and with a judge called the Master
00:19:14.300 about what their fees would be.
00:19:18.120 And they were haggling.
00:19:20.240 So it was basically Tommy and even Jamal,
00:19:26.520 they really weren't the subject of the conversation today.
00:19:30.060 And it was about the lawyers making sure they got well paid.
00:19:35.580 It was about 10 minutes about the case.
00:19:37.960 So we were all in this little office of this kind of a judge called a Master.
00:19:43.780 And it was very small and very intimate.
00:19:45.600 It was really a big desk.
00:19:48.920 And the senior lawyers were right up against the desk across from the judge.
00:19:52.840 And then there was another row of three more lawyers and Tommy.
00:19:58.380 And then there was me, one other journalist from an alt-left news agency called Press Association,
00:20:06.480 a Tommy supporter, and then a security guy.
00:20:09.120 So it was very, very small in there.
00:20:11.080 It was only less than a dozen people.
00:20:12.740 And for 90 minutes, the lawyers said, well, I want to get paid for this.
00:20:18.080 I want to get paid for that.
00:20:19.120 And he shouldn't be able to bill for this.
00:20:20.760 And he shouldn't be able to bill for that.
00:20:22.480 And they were all gathered for the feast.
00:20:25.600 And it was really three lawyers talking about seven lawyers getting paid.
00:20:30.320 And when I say three lawyers, I am including the Master,
00:20:33.500 because, of course, she's a former lawyer, is a lawyer.
00:20:35.540 It was quite something.
00:20:38.940 And the figures they were coming up with were so staggeringly large.
00:20:43.680 Like I say, I've been involved in litigation in various jurisdictions.
00:20:47.700 I was never happy.
00:20:49.000 But if I, and I'm just, there were so many numbers thrown out.
00:20:52.640 But the final number that the Master approved for the plaintiffs,
00:20:58.980 I don't remember it in pounds.
00:21:02.500 I converted it immediately to Canadian dollars,
00:21:04.700 because that's what I understand.
00:21:06.480 It was 580,000 Canadian dollars.
00:21:09.860 I tweeted it.
00:21:10.560 So forgive me if I'm not 100% accurate here.
00:21:13.100 There were so many numbers thrown out.
00:21:15.160 You can check my Twitter feed,
00:21:17.900 which is twitter.com slash Ezra Levant for the exactitudes.
00:21:20.820 So more than half a million for the plaintiff's lawyers,
00:21:26.560 if this thing goes all the way, and if they win.
00:21:29.900 I can assure you, although I shouldn't say that now,
00:21:33.040 because this is making me question what I thought I knew about the British legal system,
00:21:37.920 that Jamal will not get that amount of money if he wins.
00:21:40.580 And I don't know if he'll win at all.
00:21:42.280 But this is a feast for lawyers.
00:21:45.320 There were five lawyers in the room,
00:21:46.800 and there was a suggestion that there ought to be seven lawyers.
00:21:51.600 At trial.
00:21:53.280 And I guess that's just how it is.
00:21:57.400 What they, the barrister, the one who argues in the court,
00:22:01.100 and the solicitor is the one who does the groundwork.
00:22:03.540 In Canada and the United States, there is no distinction.
00:22:06.980 You're a lawyer, just a lawyer.
00:22:08.380 You do all sorts of work.
00:22:10.040 I can see now why they have that split profession.
00:22:13.560 So they can have more people milking the cow.
00:22:16.640 So they can have more piggies at the trough.
00:22:19.340 And listen, I'm sure all the lawyers in the room were outstanding lawyers.
00:22:22.560 But I have just never in my life seen such insane bills on both sides.
00:22:29.020 And I've never seen the money being sorted out as the first issue.
00:22:36.480 And then the legal case itself comes later.
00:22:38.800 I mean, in Canada, which I'm most familiar with,
00:22:41.480 is that once a case is all done,
00:22:45.020 the lawyers can then say to the judge,
00:22:46.900 well, here's how it went.
00:22:47.660 We won a little bit for this, and we won a little bit for that.
00:22:49.600 And typically, even the winning side gets just a fraction of what they spent.
00:22:54.220 Unless the behavior by the other side was so egregious,
00:22:58.500 you just get partial fees.
00:23:01.120 But here, the amount of money they were getting approved in advance
00:23:05.320 was staggering.
00:23:08.420 I've just never seen anything like it.
00:23:12.160 And the fact that the lawyers were all discussing this
00:23:16.660 and pleading their own cases to a judge,
00:23:20.540 they weren't pleading Jamal's case or Tommy's case.
00:23:23.800 The lawyers were pleading their own case,
00:23:26.480 the case of how much they should get paid.
00:23:28.020 I have to tell you, I'm slightly demoralized by the whole thing
00:23:31.260 and more than slightly grossed out.
00:23:35.460 And I guess that goes to what this lawsuit's really about.
00:23:38.300 The process is the punishment.
00:23:41.280 This defamation case is not about a young Syrian migrant
00:23:44.860 whose reputation was harmed.
00:23:46.700 I don't believe that's what this case is about.
00:23:48.760 I believe it's about throwing anything at Tommy
00:23:52.360 and seeing what'll stick.
00:23:53.780 I mean, Tommy's not a threat to the football games either,
00:23:56.260 but they're prosecuting him there.
00:23:57.840 They'll throw literally anything they can at him.
00:24:00.760 And when I say they, I mean the establishment
00:24:02.500 or this plaintiff's law firm.
00:24:06.960 It's just incredible.
00:24:07.800 So it was about just slightly less than a two-hour hearing today.
00:24:11.760 There was a 10 or 15-minute break where the master went through things.
00:24:15.540 The final result was her coming up with those dollar figures.
00:24:22.260 But like I say, we didn't even get into any of the substance.
00:24:25.960 We didn't get into Tommy's main objection,
00:24:29.940 which is he doesn't want to turn over the identity of his witnesses
00:24:33.580 to the plaintiffs because he's worried they'll be abused, threatened, etc.
00:24:37.340 So Tommy told me, and I think this video should be up at TommyTrial.com,
00:24:46.900 if not already, it should be up shortly.
00:24:48.880 I talked to Tommy before the case,
00:24:50.820 and he said he's got students ready to testify,
00:24:58.360 a teacher ready to testify.
00:24:59.900 He says he's got internal records from the school
00:25:03.140 that all show that this kid was indeed a bully.
00:25:06.760 He's not a saint.
00:25:08.100 That's Tommy's contention.
00:25:09.820 He's pleading truth as his defense.
00:25:15.640 So we didn't get into any of that today.
00:25:19.220 For maybe 10 minutes, they talked about the fact that,
00:25:21.900 therefore, Tommy wants his witnesses to be kept confidential
00:25:24.980 from the plaintiffs, not from the judge.
00:25:28.880 The judge will obviously be able to know who they are, etc.
00:25:31.140 But he wants them kept confidential from the public
00:25:34.220 and also from the plaintiffs' lawyers.
00:25:36.980 And the reason for that we didn't get into today,
00:25:39.300 but I know why, having talked to Tommy and seen his videos and whatnot,
00:25:44.900 the lawyers involved sent an insane Antifa street thug
00:25:49.540 to serve papers on Tommy at his family home,
00:25:52.480 and they live-streamed it, thus revealing his home location.
00:25:56.580 So this wasn't that Jamal Syrian kid anymore.
00:25:59.360 It was the law firm that's against Tommy.
00:26:03.240 The law firm, instead of sending what's called a process server
00:26:06.220 or a private detective or even a courier or a messenger
00:26:09.460 to serve the lawsuit on Tommy,
00:26:11.120 the law firm hired a madman.
00:26:15.640 You can see it on my other video at TommyTrial.com.
00:26:18.260 Some wild guy who threatened Tommy,
00:26:21.560 threatened Tommy's wife and kids,
00:26:23.140 and live-streamed the visit to Tommy's confidential home location.
00:26:27.560 So Tommy, you can see why Tommy doesn't want
00:26:30.460 to give the identity of these child witnesses
00:26:34.040 to the law firm itself because of their abuse of conduct so far.
00:26:38.660 And I understand that the law society
00:26:40.460 or the benchers or whatever they call it over here
00:26:43.200 in the UK is looking into this law firm.
00:26:49.580 I stuck around longer than I should
00:26:52.220 because I was told the whole thing
00:26:54.140 would only go for 90 minutes,
00:26:56.140 and I should have been able to make my flight,
00:26:59.080 but it went 45 minutes actually later.
00:27:01.640 Then I think the whole thing went for 2 hours
00:27:04.300 and 15 minutes instead of 90 minutes,
00:27:06.460 and hopefully we can make up time on the road.
00:27:08.580 So I've already checked in and whatnot.
00:27:11.520 So, oh, and I see, just as we're here,
00:27:14.140 Tommy just sent me a voice message,
00:27:15.900 which I obviously can't listen to
00:27:17.600 on the same phone as I'm doing this live stream.
00:27:22.460 I talked to Tommy a bit about it.
00:27:23.780 I won't get into the confidential nature of our discussions,
00:27:27.580 but he obviously agrees that this is the law fair,
00:27:30.720 the process is the punishment,
00:27:31.980 and they're just throwing anything at him,
00:27:33.900 including the kitchen sink, seeing what'll stick.
00:27:35.860 As I say, there was only one other reporter in the room,
00:27:40.720 a reporter for an extremist news agency
00:27:43.520 called Press Association.
00:27:45.100 They probably wouldn't call themselves extremists.
00:27:48.540 They'd probably call themselves mainstream,
00:27:50.360 and maybe they are on some issues,
00:27:51.800 but I've seen their misconduct on Tommy reported,
00:27:54.620 so frankly, I don't believe a word they say.
00:27:57.620 I mean, it was a pretty bland and boring hearing.
00:28:00.140 It wasn't even a hearing today.
00:28:01.020 It was a meeting, really,
00:28:02.680 so I'm not even sure how it could be mischaracterized,
00:28:04.860 mischaracterized, but if they can find a way,
00:28:07.240 I'm sure they will.
00:28:08.280 Anyways, that's my report.
00:28:09.720 I think I'll sign off,
00:28:10.820 because I'm going to check to see
00:28:11.700 what that message from Tommy was.
00:28:13.940 It might just be him saying goodbye,
00:28:16.400 because I did have to leave hastily.
00:28:19.480 If there's something really newsworthy,
00:28:21.820 I'll strike up another live stream and tell you,
00:28:24.600 but otherwise, let me conclude my report
00:28:26.820 by saying I'm very disappointed,
00:28:28.540 not in the substance of this case,
00:28:31.280 which was not move forward one inch today.
00:28:33.100 I'm very disappointed in the truth
00:28:36.380 about the British legal system,
00:28:37.940 where the lawyers come first,
00:28:41.220 the lawyers get paid first,
00:28:42.900 the most important thing to the lawyers
00:28:44.600 is getting paid, and lawyers on both sides.
00:28:47.400 And the fact that we spent, really,
00:28:49.800 two hours and 15 minutes today
00:28:51.420 making sure the lawyers got well fed,
00:28:53.920 and I'm serious, there were five lawyers in the room,
00:28:56.640 one, two, three, four, five,
00:28:57.880 and I think there was a proposal
00:29:00.140 to have seven at the case.
00:29:01.940 Like, it's, that makes no sense,
00:29:04.480 other than in the UK,
00:29:05.740 where the laws obviously run
00:29:07.260 for the benefit of the lawyers,
00:29:08.680 not the people, not for Jamal,
00:29:10.560 the plaintiff, even if he wins,
00:29:12.040 let's say if he wins.
00:29:13.980 It really isn't his case, is it?
00:29:15.480 It's his lawyer's case.
00:29:16.340 They're just going to get so rich off it.
00:29:18.000 I'm very frustrated by that,
00:29:19.720 and I'm a little bit disillusioned
00:29:22.420 about justice here,
00:29:23.260 and I conclude with what I said
00:29:25.340 in one of my last tweets today,
00:29:26.800 which is,
00:29:27.880 this is the price you pay in a jurisdiction
00:29:30.120 with no First Amendment,
00:29:33.020 because what Tommy said on his video
00:29:35.660 would absolutely not be
00:29:38.840 something subject to litigation in America,
00:29:42.060 and if someone filed a nuisance suit,
00:29:43.300 it would have been thrown out right away.
00:29:45.200 But in the UK,
00:29:47.020 and to an extent in Canada,
00:29:49.140 there's a free speech tax,
00:29:50.680 and it's only paid by conservatives, by the way.
00:29:52.580 I'm unaware of conservatives suing liberals
00:29:55.560 in nuisance suits to shut them up
00:29:58.560 for political purposes,
00:30:00.220 as I believe is being done to Tommy.
00:30:02.460 It's only the other way.
00:30:04.800 Anyway, so that's my report.
00:30:07.220 You can see all my live tweets
00:30:08.680 at Twitter.com slash Ezra Levant.
00:30:11.640 I did interview Tommy
00:30:12.980 for about five minutes before court.
00:30:14.560 You can find that at TommyTrial.com.
00:30:16.300 I am racing to the airport now,
00:30:17.900 and I sure hope I get there on time.
00:30:19.960 No guarantee, though.
00:30:21.120 So if you want to help cover the cost of my flight,
00:30:24.200 I'd be very grateful if you would.
00:30:25.540 I paid about $1,400 for the flight,
00:30:27.400 plus cab fare each way,
00:30:29.540 and in Toronto also.
00:30:31.400 Altogether, it'll be just under $2,000 a Canadian.
00:30:34.000 It's about 1,200 British pounds.
00:30:36.780 Now that I see what lawyers charge here,
00:30:38.900 I'm obviously in the wrong business.
00:30:41.580 All right, folks.
00:30:42.160 That's it for today from the streets of London.
00:30:44.640 Until next time,
00:30:45.480 on behalf of all of us at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:30:47.700 to you at home and around the world,
00:30:49.840 goodbye, and keep fighting for freedom.
00:30:52.240 What do you think of that crazy story
00:31:03.520 out at Northwestern University?
00:31:05.440 Do you really think it's any different
00:31:07.000 at Canadian universities
00:31:08.500 that reporters are apologizing
00:31:13.440 for causing harm and hurt to people's feelings,
00:31:17.220 and they're deleting things?
00:31:18.860 Of course not.
00:31:20.580 That is actually further gone in Canada.
00:31:23.700 We just deleted Don Cherry
00:31:26.200 because he said,
00:31:27.000 you people,
00:31:27.540 which is his catchphrase.
00:31:29.220 Yeah, it's worse up here
00:31:31.700 because it's not just the student papers.
00:31:33.880 It's the state broadcaster.
00:31:35.420 All right, that's our show for today.
00:31:36.760 Until next time,
00:31:37.460 on behalf of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:31:39.700 good night.
00:31:40.720 Keep fighting for freedom.
00:31:48.860 peedrent.com
00:31:50.300 We'll see you next time.
00:31:52.960 We'll see you next time.
00:31:57.700 We'll be right back after
00:31:58.420 aman attitude.
00:31:59.000 California