Quebec is the sanest place in Canada right now
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Summary
In this episode of The Ezra LeVant Show, host Ezra Levenant visits the French-Canadian newspaper the Journal de Montréal and tries to pronounce some French words. He also talks about the burqa ban in public schools, and why he thinks Quebecers are better than the rest of Canada.
Transcript
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Hey Rebels, today I do something a little different.
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I look through some French-Canadian newspapers,
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including the biggest newspaper in all of Quebec.
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and you'll hear me try and pronounce some French words not too well,
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You know, it's a totally different media and political world over there.
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That may sound obvious, but I'll give you some surprising details.
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Tonight, welcome to Quebec, the sanest place in Canada right now.
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It's June 19th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government, the wire publisher,
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The media culture in Quebec is so different from that of English Canada.
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It's hard to believe we're in the same country sometimes.
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but they're not as politically correct over there in regards to a lot of things.
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I suppose it's an expression of their larger political culture.
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Their alternative candidate, I'd call him a nationalist populist,
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Francois Legault, won a dominating majority government over the two legacy parties
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by promising to stand firm against people wearing the Muslim burqa in the public sector,
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You couldn't even say those things in English Canada
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without the entire media party having a fainting spell
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and Wendy Mesley probably calling you the N-word.
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In Quebec, they gave the man an election victory.
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Even Justin Trudeau knows better than to disparage Legault
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You'll notice that when Trudeau rails against burqa bans,
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he almost always does it in English, in English Canada.
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I think it's a larger cultural issue because Quebec is, in many ways,
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I'm not talking about separatism, and I'm not weighing into issues like
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equalization or forced bilingualism or any of the things that irritate
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The culture is in some permanent peril, some existential peril.
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They're a little island of French in a sea of North American English.
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They worry about losing things, about melting away.
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That's why the burqa thing irritates them so much.
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They've thought these things through for a long time.
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They believe that Quebec is more than just a post-a-code or an airport or a place on a map.
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They believe in their land and their history and their people.
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They have words like pure lane, which means pure wool, Quebecers.
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They talk about Québécois de souche, a Quebec tree with roots, like a tree stump with roots.
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That's what they mean, people who are deeply, historically tied to their place.
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You're not allowed to even talk that way in the rest of Canada.
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But they've been thinking and talking about things like this in Quebec
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since the Battle of the Plains of Abraham and ever since.
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So they're not easily blown over by some hyperventilating leftist
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or Wendy Masley calling them names because they know who they are.
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He dips into his Quebec chauvinism when he's comparing himself to Alberta, for example.
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Quebecers are better than the rest of Canada because, you know, we're Quebecers.
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I think that's not really understanding Quebec nationalism.
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And what do I know when I'm an Albertan in Toronto?
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But I don't think Quebec nationalism is about sneering at Alberta.
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Quebecers I know have no beef with Alberta or the West,
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Being a Quebecer is about saving what they have.
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As he told the New York Times in a fawning photo shoot in English,
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Yeah, that's what he says to his fancy globalist friends in New York City.
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Not enough to give him a seat on the globalist UN Security Council, apparently,
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but enough to publish fawning photoshopped images of him in the New York Times.
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But he would never say those things in French in Quebec City.
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Well, it's too long to answer on a license plate,
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so remember when he called this ordinary woman,
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I think this had a huge impact on the Liberal Party's fortunes in Quebec.
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the Quebec media is similar to Quebec political class,
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because there are a lot of nationalists in their media,
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And partly because they reflect the will of the larger community,
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than just latching on to the latest woke fashion.
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by a French-language radio station in Quebec City
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that translates my answers to French in real time.
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They're not really part of the Mean Girls Media Club
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And all of that is a very lengthy preamble to my point today.
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a tweet from an editorial writer at the National Post named Chris Selle.
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is in the midst of one of the most astonishing ever tantrums en masse.
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And he shows some headlines from the newspaper's comment section.
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The Journal de Montréal is actually the largest newspaper
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It's obviously the largest French-language newspaper in North America.
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It reminds me of the Toronto Sun chain of newspapers.
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And they have a bunch of TV stations in Quebec,
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Obviously, I don't read it often because my French is weak,
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And, of course, the man saying they were having
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that had 30 reporters sign a weird snitch letter
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saying he has to shut up because he's a 73-year-old white man.
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They had a two-hour struggle session in their office.
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and told they couldn't talk because they were white,
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even though none of the namers and shamers themselves
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So, yeah, not quite ready to take the accusation
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though I should point out that Chris Selle himself
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What is this so-called tantrum at the Journal de Mont-Royal?
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Well, another leftist activist posted a bigger collage
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of headlines, and I'd like to show it to you here.
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So that's about a half a dozen different columnists
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It's the racial debates we're having across America,
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around the world intensely for the past few weeks,
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This is what our universities teach all the time.
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Of course, there is affirmative action for non-whites.
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Then again, this columnist hasn't dropped the N-word yet.
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The first thing that comes to mind when I see those headlines is,
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But these are people who are speaking candidly and powerfully and with passion.
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I literally haven't gone to read any of these columns yet.
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I'm just looking at the headlines that Chris Selle of the National Post calls an astonishing tantrum.
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I'm still waiting for Chris Selle of the National Post to tell us what he thinks about the two-hour struggle session tantrum at his own newsroom.
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Or maybe he's just too afraid to take on his own mob.
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So he'll chirp at some Quebecers who have never heard of him.
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That's a lot safer than, say, defending Rex Murphy and criticizing how the National Post threw him under the bus.
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So those articles, Enfoncé and the Journal de Montréal, they all sound interesting.
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I think that's sort of the job of an opinion page.
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Look, I already showed you how each of the big English language newspapers in Canada have a full-time racism columnist.
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Sri Paradkar of the Toronto Star, Van Mela Subramania of the National Post,
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Weirdly, all three of them are Indo-Canadian women.
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These are literally the wealthiest ethnic group in Canada, Indo-Canadians.
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Statistically speaking, they're more successful, richer even than the Jews or the Chinese.
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These are the most privileged people in Canada.
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And Van Mela and Sri are so new to our country that they still have their foreign accent.
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But they're paid to trash us as racists every day.
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They can say things like those French headlines, but they say them unironically.
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But you can't have Québécois de souche push back.
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So, say, you know what, there's a couple people that are bad, we'll never root it out,
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but there's no institutionalized systemic racism, certainly not in Quebec.
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My first thought was, well, here is another white guy in power telling us that racism doesn't exist.
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And I don't know, based on what he says it, I just, it made me sad because I wish we moved away from this framing of does racism exist to what are we going to do about it?
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Because I feel like in so many ways, this denial of racism is a denial of basic dignity, particularly of Black and First Nations, MĂ©tis and Inuit people.
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Guys, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that she has never been to Quebec other than perhaps for a wonderful weekend of shopping and fine restaurants in Montréal in which she spoke only English other than the word champagne.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say she doesn't know her Quebec history and really doesn't care.
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She doesn't know Canada's English history either.
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Then again, so did Jagmeet Singh in his own way in Parliament, didn't he?
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They fought for their rights in our Constitution.
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They're not looking to put anyone down, I don't think.
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They're not looking to go to Sri Lanka and call everyone racist, like our Canadian racist
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I don't think most Quebecois are poking at anyone outside the province.
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And I think they're getting a bit tired of being called racist when, in fact, they've taken
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him tens of thousands of Haitians, just for one recent example, as refugees.
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They see the people breaking the law, gaming the system.
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And then they're called racist for complaining about it, like that woman was who badgered Trudeau.
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So, yeah, no, having a dozen columns about race and belonging and laws and customs, that's
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Or if it is, then the entire world is having a tantrum now, especially the National Post's
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little Maoists and their newsroom struggle sessions.
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What I see in the Journal de Montréal, just by those headlines, is possibly Canada's most
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I'm not saying I'd agree with it all, or even any of it.
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I haven't read the stories, but boy, they're actually allowed to have a conversation.
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And it looks like the only guy telling them to shut up is some weirdo in Toronto muttering
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Yeah, no, I sort of like Quebec these days, because on the most important issues, identity,
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culture, society, not taxes or trade, on the most important issues, they have something
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Social conservative issues are policy that affect families, seniors and children, and we
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The Liberals are so radically far to the left in their ideas when it comes to conversion
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therapy and abortion, that we can gain ground on these ideas.
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They don't believe that there are 72 or 102 genders.
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And remember, Stephen Harper, when he cut funding for foreign abortions, we won a majority
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When Doug Ford campaigned against the sex ed curriculum, we won here in Ontario.
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So we can take principled stances, and we can win.
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Well, that is a clip from last night's English language debate at the Conservative Party of
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It was at a Toronto convention centre, but in an empty room because of the pandemic panic.
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I don't think a lot of minds were changed, but my guess is that people saw Derek Sloan
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that we just showed there and said, that guy's a real conservative.
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That's at least who I thought won the debating, according to the chats, the live chat on our
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But to me, the real news of the night was a little bit more personal.
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As you know, for some reason, the more timid variety of conservative has been afraid to
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be seen in public with the real variety of conservative, us at Rebel News.
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I think Andrew Scheer started that bad behaviour.
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By the way, the words Andrew Scheer were not spoken a single time in the entire two-hour
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Andrew Scheer started the bad behaviour of shunning Rebel News, hoping it would somehow make
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the CBC and other media party groups more sympathetic to him.
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In fact, the CBC literally sued him during the campaign.
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For the last few months, Aaron O'Toole and Peter McKay have followed Andrew Scheer's bizarre
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media strategy, refusing to talk to Rebel News.
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Although we had many excellent conversations with Derek Sloan, Leslie Lewis, and Jim Carajalios,
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But last night, and the night before, Aaron Kean Bextie managed to physically accost both
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And wouldn't you know it, Aaron O'Toole immediately shucked off his bizarre fatwa on Rebel News and
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answered some pretty normal questions in a normal way.
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Here's a clip of Kean having a normal conversation with Aaron O'Toole.
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In the debate, there was a lot of focus on racism, a lot of leftist talking points, really.
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Were you concerned that it was focused too much on that?
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And was there something else you would have rather talk about?
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Well, certainly this is dominating public discourse.
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So I think it's appropriate we're talking about it.
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I do think we meet most of the time the ideals we hold ourselves to.
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But if we ever don't, we have to stamp it out and have a zero tolerance approach.
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And that's how I've always tried to conduct myself.
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Peter McKay said yesterday in the debate that he would give Quebec a veto over pipelines.
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Why do you think he said that in French, not in English?
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And what do you think his motivation was in saying that?
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Well, I did notice tonight he talked about Energy East, right?
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I've talked about a National Strategic Pipelines Act where the federal government works in collaboration with the partnership.
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But the federal government has to articulate why these are in the national interest, in all the national interests.
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And I think we can get to a place where more and more Canadians see the benefit of getting our world price for our resources.
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So Mr. McKay seems to think he can have it both ways.
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Why did the lad, the lad, why did the man evade us?
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Why did Aaron O'Toole evade us for so many months, if that's the conversation he was dreading?
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But someone who was a little bit more timid was Peter McKay.
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And it took two days for Kian to break through Peter McKay's psychological prison.
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Peter, you, you, you, you, yeah, I didn't get an answer to the question.
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Why'd you, why'd you take so many, why'd you take so few questions?
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I want to ask if you'll apologize for calling Jason.
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I took all the questions that were asked of me.
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I'm not sure why you took so few questions compared to everyone else.
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Would you be able to tell me, will you apologize to Jason Kenney?
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Will you apologize to Jason Kenney for calling him angry and dismissing the concerns of Albertans?
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Peter, you dismissed the anger in Alberta by calling Jason Kenney an angry man.
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Will you apologize for calling Jason Kenney an angry man?
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You couldn't get to the previously scheduled media.
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Peter McKay, you sort of look like a coward right now.
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We're not going into the whole f***ing elevator, right?
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Kian just wanted to talk to you about, you know, the news, the campaign.
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Kian trying again with Peter McKay and having a little bit of success.
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Why did you not say that you'd give Quebec a veto in English for pipelines?
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Answer that question if you support free press.
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I get a real Justin Trudeau vibe off of Peter McKay.
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But to me, that was the highlight of the whole thing is that Aaron O'Toole got over his rebel derangement syndrome
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and Peter McKay, well, at least it's in remission.
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And joining us now in studio here at our world headquarters in the greater Toronto area is our friend Kian Bexton.
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You know, we've met, I think we've met probably ten times, maybe more than that.
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And, you know, you've got a certain approach to life.
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But I wouldn't have expected that Peter McKay, a man who has served as foreign minister, who has served as defense minister,
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a man who's been in the public life this whole time, a man who's a lawyer, accomplished,
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just he ran from you as if you were the Incredible Hulk, as if you were the most terrifying, as if you were a rabid dog or had the bubonic plague or something.
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I've never seen a grown man react more like a child to a spider than Peter McKay to you.
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The Conservative Party would get the same thing as they're having with Justin Trudeau.
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He was scared of the questions at the end of the day.
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I mean, he was, I think he didn't want to be seen with you.
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And then they got a little bit more prickly as he ran away.
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But his staff certainly weren't doing him any favors.
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His staff came off as these hyperactive children bouncing around.
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They were trying to get in the way of my microphone so that I wouldn't be able to ask Peter McKay questions.
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But I was happy that near the end of the night when we asked him just the easiest question you could ask a Conservative.
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Even someone who was against free speech would say, I support free speech.
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Then they would just have lots of asterisks and footnotes.
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I've never met a single human who says, even the Soviets used to say they believe in free speech.
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Yeah, and then of course it was, do you support free speech?
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And then I said, well, why won't you answer the real questions?
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Why won't you answer why you said in French one thing and wouldn't repeat it in English?
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And that in particular was that he would let Quebec have a veto over pipelines.
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Yeah, you know, you mentioned his staff and his staff, his communications director was certainly very childish, escalated things, engaged in ridiculous name calling, defamation, physical blocking.
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But at the end of the day, the boss is the boss.
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And at the end of the day, Peter McKay is the principal and everyone else is just an agent or an assistant or a deputy of his.
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So he has to take the ownership for the conduct of those around him or fire them, either own it or disown it.
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He has fired five communications directors in that same position.
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That Chisholm is, the current one, his name is Chisholm.
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In the period of the campaign, he's fired five of them.
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Well, you know what, maybe he's, maybe the problem ain't with the communications directors.
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I mean, listen, I believe you shuffle the deck if something's wrong.
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Donald Trump, memorably and incredibly, switched campaign chairman like just a few months before his 2016 election.
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But it's one of the reasons he won when he put in Steve Bannon.
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But if you're on communications director number six, maybe the problem ain't with the communications directors.
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Well, you remember how the campaign started out.
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First, they stole their campaign logo from a small Albertan company called Maple Money.
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Then the second thing that happened was they were putting out these weird, flashy, epileptic seizure-causing campaign graphics.
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Canadians are proud, Canada's great because Canadians make it great.
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And I agree, they were very weird and childish, to use the word.
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You can have a substantive campaign that is persuasive on the substance, and those little details and doodads don't matter.
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He has a man who says very little, very poorly.
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Yeah, but like you said earlier, Derek Sloan contrasted with Peter McKay very well in the debate.
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I think he stood out the most, the tallest out of all of them.
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He was kind of coming into the debate as the underdog, I'd say, especially coming out of the French debate.
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He did better there than I thought he would, but not great compared to Aaron O'Toole and Peter McKay.
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It was kind of the O'Toole-McKay show last night, the French debate night.
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And Leslyn Lewis did a little bit better than she did in the French debate.
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But I'm not sure if she had the, it wasn't a home run night for her, I'd say.
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And I've seen her improvements since the first day.
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In fact, she launched her campaign here in this very seat you're in right now.
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In fact, our David Menzies put a question over the phone.
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Here, take a quick look at that clip where Leslyn Lewis is asked, would she, how would she treat Rebel News?
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Next question will be from David Menzies at Rebel News.
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My question pertains to freedom of speech and freedom of the press.
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Namely, as the leader of the Conservative Party or even Prime Minister, would you allow all journalists into press conferences?
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And would you also ensure that bureaucratic entities such as the Commissioner of Canada elections would not go after authors who write books critical of the government?
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I think that that is one of the foundations of our democracy is to have free press.
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And I set an example of that because my very first interview was with Rebel Media, and that was for a particular purpose because I know that they had not been very active in interviewing people in the party.
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And so I wanted to just, just to open the door and to let people understand that I believe in free press.
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And, you know, sometimes the press is not always, you know, nice to us, but it is their right.
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It's a part of, it's a part of our freedom of expression, and it's a cornerstone of a free society.
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Now, Kian, a viewer might say, Ezra, you sure are talking about yourself a lot.
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Can you talk about something that the rest of us care about?
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But I think that Rebel News is a proxy for certain things.
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Are you comfortable with the conservative base, or are you ashamed of them like a crazy ant in the attic?
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So I think it's your acceptance of the spectrum of conservatives.
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And second of all, are you someone who is part of cancel culture or part of the solution to cancel culture?
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You'll capitulate to whatever the CBC or the media party demands of you.
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One of the things it took me a while to learn about Trump, I remember when he criticized John McCain and said something really awful.
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He said, I like my heroes who aren't captured or something.
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Well, you know, John McCain had a lot of things you could criticize.
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But him being shot down over Vietnam, being physically tortured, and choosing to let other POWs go first.
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You know, the rule is let them go in the order, first in, first out.
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And then he got so much flack, and I thought, for sure he's going to bend the knee on this one.
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But he was wrong to criticize the one great thing about John McCain, his heroism as a POW.
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Why are you criticizing that and saying, I prefer my heroes who aren't captured?
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The reason his support went up, in my mind, is because he showed, even when he was wrong, so let alone when he's right, that he would never bow to the media mob.
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And people said, oh, even when he knows he should, he won't.
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And I'm not saying we need to go full Trump, but I would like a conservative leader who, when a media says, do you mean to say this?
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The instinct is not to go, oh, I'm sorry, master, the CBC.
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The instinct is reflexively to say, to heck with you, and double down.
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Well, that's what happened with Derek Sloan last night when the media was actually debating with him.
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The media started actually aggressively fighting with him over his immigration policy because Derek Sloan actually has the most ballsy immigration strategy plan that any serious leadership candidate has had in a long time.
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Right now it's like half a million or something like that.
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It's a bold strategy, and the mainstream media does not like that at all.
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So I forget the name of the CBC reporter that was grilling him on this, but they were fighting about historical policy and his current policy and how it just wouldn't work.
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And it was just a disgrace on the mainstream media's part.
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Well, if you can stand up to the mainstream media, people can tell you're your own man, you will stand by your own beliefs, and you won't be a conformist.
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And in a liberal world with liberal media, having the courage to dissent is actually the most important character trait.
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Thanks for coming to town and doing a great job down there.
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And I think you really smoked out something about Peter McKay's character, too.
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And I'm really glad people had a chance to see that.
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There's a lot of work to do out there, but it's nice to see you here in the big smoke.
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Well, that's Kian Bexty doing a great job down there.
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On our live stream in the conservative leadership debate, Sherry writes,
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It certainly looks like Rebel News has turned the corner.
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I think that candidates, except for one, have realized that the large and growing audience of Rebel News supporters are an informed and engaged group that are capable of influencing political outcomes.
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I mean, I don't know what their rationale was in the first place.
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I think it's they were just so afraid of being criticized by, seriously, Wendy Mesley.
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I know I am picking on her a little bit because she's tried to destroy so many others with false accusations of racism.
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And she was the one who was fired for saying a very bad word.
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I think that it feels like a low energy race for the conservative party.
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I just think it's very odd that people don't talk to the leading conservative media in Canada when they claim to be conservatives.
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I mean, there are a range of media in Canada on the center left, the left, the far left, the very far left.
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And you don't see Jagmeet Singh or Justin Trudeau saying, ooh, you're a little liberal for me.
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I think Aaron O'Toole, of the people we saw, maybe has the best chance.
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But he came in third in the last conservative race.
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I watched the CBC debate tonight, then of course watched the Rebels post-game.
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Ezra and Sheila were getting annoyed with all the systemic racism questions in the Q&A after, and understandably so.
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The political left has almost completely dumped the climate crisis narrative and switched to the racism crisis.
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They now have to write about racism to stay relevant.
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The ideology of white supremacy leads the way towards disposable people and a disposable natural world.
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Yeah, I mean, listen, Greta Thunberg, no one's been hurt worse than her.
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She tried to make the pandemic coronavirus a thing that people listen to her about.
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And I think CNN actually interviewed her as an expert, a kid.
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And, yes, people just suddenly don't care quite as much.
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There's just too many billions of dollars in stake, trillions, really, with all the subsidies and taxes.
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I think we had a great week in so many ways, and I thank you for being a part of it.
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Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night.