Rebel News Podcast - November 30, 2019


Rebel Roundup: Abagail Hamman and Keean Bexte


Episode Stats

Length

14 minutes

Words per Minute

149.5365

Word Count

2,210

Sentence Count

144

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

This week, Rebel News returns to Hong Kong to cover the Hong Kong protests, and what it's like to be a part of the pro-democracy movement in the former British colony. In place of the usual interviews with your hosts, we re running their standalone video reports on the latest breaking news stories happening all over the world.


Transcript

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00:00:58.060 Welcome to a special edition of Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you.
00:01:06.280 So, what's so special about this edition, you ask?
00:01:09.440 Well, all of your favorite Rebels are currently on assignment, hard at work, the world over.
00:01:15.680 They're digging into some very important breaking news stories,
00:01:19.100 and making some exciting videos in the process.
00:01:21.940 Yes, they are producing the sort of hard-hitting journalism you just won't see anywhere else.
00:01:28.300 So, in place of the usual interviews with yours truly,
00:01:31.960 we're going to run their standalone video reports instead.
00:01:36.120 So, please feel free to grab some popcorn, sit back, and enjoy.
00:01:41.220 We'll see you next time.
00:02:11.220 Rebel News came to Hong Kong trying to uncover the other side of the story,
00:02:29.820 to share with the world the side of the story that Beijing doesn't want the world to hear.
00:02:34.520 We came to Hong Kong just a few days before a massive election was held,
00:02:40.940 and it really was a historic election for Hong Kong.
00:02:44.760 There was a massive sweep for the Democrat Party here.
00:02:48.120 The pro-democracy camp won an overwhelming victory, over 90% of the seats.
00:02:54.040 This is an amazing movement that we're seeing here today,
00:02:57.060 and it's being capped off here tonight in an evening of song.
00:03:00.940 They're singing Glory to Hong Kong and Can You Hear the People Sing.
00:03:06.300 Tonight is a time when they're thinking about the folks that are trapped in PolyU.
00:03:12.380 There's still 20 students in PolyU, and their fate is yet unknown.
00:03:17.060 These folks here held a moment of silence amid their song,
00:03:20.500 and it really was an emotional night.
00:03:23.220 It was something like I've never seen before.
00:03:25.880 When Rebel News came here, we weren't sure what we were going to find.
00:03:29.260 What we did find was millions of Hong Kongers passionate to hold on to the liberty
00:03:36.020 that was left to them at the handover from the British Empire
00:03:40.240 to what they have today with their basic law.
00:03:44.100 We found people willing to stand eye to eye with riot police,
00:03:48.740 to stand up for their fellow protesters who are now locked in PolyU.
00:03:52.620 We found people who will gather in an auditorium like this to sing
00:03:57.020 and remember those that they've lost in these protests.
00:04:01.060 Don't forget, many people have been arrested, thousands.
00:04:04.380 Many people have committed suicide, allegedly,
00:04:07.960 at the hands of what looks like to be the police.
00:04:10.900 We faced off with Regina Ip.
00:04:12.700 She's the head of the New People's Party here in Hong Kong.
00:04:16.700 She's someone who has a direct hand in the police brutality that we've seen here.
00:04:21.500 We've seen people who have been curb stomped by the police,
00:04:24.240 people who have been bowled over with riot shields.
00:04:27.060 These people really have something to fight for,
00:04:29.960 and I know I speak on behalf of Rebel News
00:04:32.480 when we say we stand with the people of Hong Kong.
00:04:36.100 To the world at large, I would like them to keep reporting on Hong Kong.
00:05:00.740 The world needs to know that our government is lying to the world.
00:05:07.040 It sounds like it's just a small number of people
00:05:11.260 who are trying to defy the government, which it's not.
00:05:14.180 A majority of Hong Kong people are fighting against the government.
00:05:18.600 We want five demands to be met.
00:05:30.740 I went to York University in Toronto to ask students
00:05:59.840 what they knew about the violent protests that occurred last week
00:06:03.240 when Israeli soldiers visited campus to discuss the Arab-Israeli conflict
00:06:07.720 after being invited by a Jewish student group.
00:06:11.420 I wanted to hear if students knew about the anti-Semitic statements
00:06:14.740 that were being hurled and the violence that took place
00:06:17.860 on the part of the pro-Palestinian protesters.
00:06:21.000 What I found to be astonishing is that some of the individuals I talked with
00:06:24.860 didn't want to admit that the anti-Semitic slurs were spouted forth,
00:06:28.740 and they tried to put the blame for the violence on the other side.
00:06:32.640 Last week, some Israeli soldiers came to talk about Israel
00:06:37.200 and about the Arab-Israeli conflict, and there was a protest.
00:06:40.960 So what do you know about the protest?
00:06:42.860 Honestly, I've heard from some friends, which are kind of part of it,
00:06:46.460 and then they're saying how the Palestinians were there
00:06:48.640 and peacefully protesting, and then supposedly the other group started using violence.
00:06:54.060 People just, like, stormed the whole building and were yelling and screaming and chanting.
00:07:00.220 It was pretty upsetting that even in today's day and age,
00:07:04.780 we still have people coming to cause violence on campus
00:07:08.660 for people who just want to express their opinions.
00:07:12.100 It was kind of scary because I easily could have been at that event,
00:07:15.520 and there was an ambulance called, and it's just very upsetting.
00:07:20.540 You heard about the protest, and you said you were there, right?
00:07:23.720 Yes, I was there.
00:07:24.380 Okay, so what do you think about what happened there?
00:07:28.000 So basically, there were a lot of protesters for Palestine
00:07:31.920 against an event for IDF soldiers on campus,
00:07:37.320 and actually, like, what I saw, the protesters were so peaceful.
00:07:43.160 They didn't, like, do anything violent.
00:07:45.480 There was a lot of, like, chaos and violence and stuff going on.
00:07:48.340 And I was screaming. It just didn't look good for the school, to be honest.
00:07:51.300 Like, it wasn't a good look.
00:07:52.360 Was it the protesters who were becoming violent?
00:07:54.920 It looked like that, to be honest. Yeah.
00:07:57.240 The violence, I think that's just unacceptable at any school, right?
00:08:02.540 You can be against or for whatever you want.
00:08:04.960 It's, you know, freedom of speech.
00:08:06.400 But I feel like the whole point of the event was, yeah,
00:08:09.280 go and listen to what they have to say if you want to challenge them.
00:08:11.500 And ask questions, especially, you know, if you have good points
00:08:15.500 and you want to ask them these questions.
00:08:17.460 That's, you know, I don't think that yelling and screaming
00:08:21.860 and starting violence is going to get anyone on your side,
00:08:24.380 no matter what you're standing for, right?
00:08:26.160 In the video, what I've seen, it looked like the protesters were being violent.
00:08:29.820 So you guys reject that, like, you say that it didn't happen.
00:08:33.200 They didn't say these hateful quotes and no violence happened.
00:08:37.240 No, no, no. Not from our side. Not from the protesters.
00:08:40.980 I have videos of them attacking us.
00:08:43.820 There was a guy from the other side.
00:08:46.620 He wore, like, a MAGA hat.
00:08:48.600 He, like, called the protesters, like, bad things.
00:08:53.240 He was so racist and sexist and Islamophobic.
00:08:57.100 Yeah.
00:08:58.320 He was like, go back to your countries.
00:09:00.400 You get our protection from us.
00:09:02.340 And, like, honestly, like, I heard chants, words from them, like, not us at all.
00:09:08.480 What did they chant?
00:09:10.020 They were like, you get your protection from us.
00:09:13.520 Not just this guy.
00:09:15.600 Like, I heard it from multiple, like, persons from their side.
00:09:21.120 Did you hear about the violence that took place?
00:09:23.440 There was punching and, like, scuffling around
00:09:25.560 and also some of the things that were being said, like, go back to the ovens.
00:09:30.320 You heard of those comments?
00:09:31.160 Yeah.
00:09:32.180 Did you, so you haven't heard how, you know, a fight started
00:09:36.840 and about how some really angry statements were said, like,
00:09:40.780 go back to the ovens and from Toronto to Gaza, globalize the Intifada.
00:09:48.040 So these are really anti-Jewish statements, anti-Israel statements.
00:09:51.540 And I've heard a couple people share that they think that the pro-Jewish side is the one who started the fight.
00:09:59.900 But according to the news stories out there, that's not what's being shared.
00:10:03.920 Do you think that there's a missing story in the news?
00:10:06.720 Or do you think other people are sharing another narrative?
00:10:11.100 I feel like, honestly, I feel like it's a missing story.
00:10:13.260 But even though, even if the missing story was missing, like, what happened was not proper in a sense, you know.
00:10:19.760 Did you also hear about the slogans they were saying, like, go back to the ovens?
00:10:23.720 And in the other one that they were saying, from Toronto to Gaza, like, let's start a global Intifada?
00:10:30.720 I did not hear that.
00:10:32.740 In fact, I'm not that educated on the topic.
00:10:35.500 I'm not going to lie.
00:10:37.000 So I can't really share too many opinions.
00:10:39.460 I just don't think that schools should have any violence.
00:10:43.220 It's a safe space, right?
00:10:44.640 Yeah, those are all terrible things that I heard when I was in Israel.
00:10:48.160 And there were riots there and people being attacked and stabbed and shot.
00:10:51.700 But same exact words, Intifada, Intifada, is what they shout there.
00:10:55.540 And they were shouting the same thing here on campus.
00:10:58.240 So it's not like we don't have knives here that could be used for the same purposes if they wanted to take it to the next step on their end.
00:11:05.080 So it's really disheartening, really, because I thought in Canada we might be past that.
00:11:11.960 But it looks like we're not.
00:11:13.200 There were chants about the Intifada, but that's it.
00:11:16.800 Like, there were no ovens or sort of that at all.
00:11:20.840 It was like, Viva Palestine and Viva Intifada.
00:11:26.080 I saw signs all over the campus where it said, don't let them in, no Israeli soldiers on campus.
00:11:32.580 And it said, protest, protest.
00:11:34.840 And then I heard that.
00:11:35.320 There was even a picture of an edited photo of an Israeli soldier strangling a child.
00:11:40.800 Right.
00:11:41.300 I heard that was edited.
00:11:42.440 I heard it wasn't real.
00:11:43.460 It was Photoshopped.
00:11:43.840 They had put around campus a flyer which had been modified, but it was of an Israeli soldier strangling a child.
00:11:51.020 It wasn't a real image.
00:11:52.020 They had edited it.
00:11:53.020 Stuff like that's unfortunate that it's taking place, and I feel like we need to be more conscious of everybody that's around us.
00:12:03.020 Did you think there was any violence, or you didn't hear about any slurs that were said or anything?
00:12:07.420 I don't think there was violence on the people protesting for Palestine, but I think the people supporting Israel and everything that ended up coming.
00:12:17.100 I don't blame them for the way they were, because what's happening over there, it's kind of crazy.
00:12:21.700 There's people getting murdered during prayers, stuff like that.
00:12:24.620 That's what you see on the news.
00:12:26.400 That the Israelis are murdering the Palestinians?
00:12:29.840 That's stuff you see on the news.
00:12:31.180 We're not even sure if it's real or not, but I don't blame the Palestinians for reacting the way they did.
00:12:39.380 They punched people and shoved people and stuff like that.
00:12:43.720 Is that okay?
00:12:44.680 They're kind of angry, you know?
00:12:45.700 You didn't see any punching or shoving?
00:12:48.100 I saw punching, but it came first from the other side, because they were trying to rip the flags of the Palestinian flags.
00:12:56.160 Yeah, I missed that too.
00:12:56.740 They were trying to rip it.
00:12:57.480 And the protesters were retaliating against the first attacks from the other side.
00:13:07.440 Other than that, it was peaceful.
00:13:09.580 Even the chants were not anti-Semitic.
00:13:12.200 Do you think the school will punish those who were involved in trying to hurt others, like there was punching and scuffling, or do you think they're going to just let it go?
00:13:22.040 Absolutely not.
00:13:22.840 If you looked at the email that the dean sent, she was intentionally ambiguous when she said there were groups here to cause violence.
00:13:32.500 That could obviously refer to the JDL as well as the pro-BDS protesters.
00:13:40.920 And I think she intentionally left it ambiguous like that, even though the JDL did not come to cause violence.
00:13:46.940 They were there to protect people for a good reason, because there was violence, and they knew there would be.
00:13:50.920 So, by leaving things ambiguous like that, she's leaving one foot out the door to make sure that she doesn't actually have to respond to these allegations.
00:13:59.400 Do you think that the people who became violent, the protesters who became violent, are going to get in trouble for that?
00:14:06.060 Or do you think it's going to slide?
00:14:07.840 I feel like it's going to slide, to be honest.
00:14:10.520 Yeah, probably slide.
00:14:12.920 Do you think that there is any room for violence at a protest?
00:14:17.340 Oh, no, for sure not.
00:14:18.260 Not at all.
00:14:18.920 I think that in a protest, you have to be required to be civil and hear, you know, I'm saying both sides of the story.
00:14:26.000 Regardless of how I'm right, I feel like that violence on both sides definitely shouldn't have been a thing.
00:14:30.560 So, I think it was wrong on both ends, for sure.
00:14:37.520 Well, thanks so much, ladies and gentlemen, for watching yet another edition of Rebel Roundup.
00:14:41.960 And, hey, never forget, without risk, there can be no glory.
00:14:46.320 Good night.