Rebel News Podcast - November 09, 2019


Rebel Roundup： David Menzies with Sheila Gunn Reid and Keean Bexte


Episode Stats

Length

40 minutes

Words per Minute

151.9828

Word Count

6,201

Sentence Count

344

Misogynist Sentences

20

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

Well, we fought the law, and guess what? We won. Sheila Gunn-Reed will weigh in on her downright surreal battle with Alberta s Elections Commissioner, who apparently had a problem with her best-selling book even though she had every right to do so. You won t want to miss this story which highlights the latest attack on free speech by a vindictive bureaucrat. And is it hate speech if a child protests the wearing of rainbow-coloured poppies to commemorate Remembrance Day? Well, apparently, one school official in Manitoba thinks so.


Transcript

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00:00:53.360 You're listening to a Rebel News Podcast.
00:00:56.180 Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you,
00:01:07.860 in which we look back at some of the very best commentaries of the week by your favorite Rebels.
00:01:12.620 I'm your host, David Menzies.
00:01:14.940 Well, we fought the law, and guess what?
00:01:18.320 We won.
00:01:19.080 Sheila Gunn-Reed will weigh in on her downright surreal battle with Alberta's elections commissioner,
00:01:27.220 who apparently had a problem with R. Sheila advertising her best-selling book,
00:01:31.560 even though she had every right to do so.
00:01:34.920 You won't want to miss this story, which highlights the latest attack on free speech by a vindictive bureaucrat.
00:01:41.760 And is it hate speech if a child protests the wearing of rainbow-colored poppies to commemorate Remembrance Day?
00:01:50.960 Well, apparently, one school official in Manitoba thinks so.
00:01:54.460 Just will you hear what Kian Bextie found out?
00:01:58.200 And finally, letters. We get your letters. We get your letters every minute of every day,
00:02:02.480 and I'll share some of your responses regarding Gary McHale's attempt to criminally charge Justin Trudeau
00:02:09.120 via a private prosecution regarding the lav scam scandal.
00:02:14.200 Hey, if the Mounties can't be bothered to do so,
00:02:17.400 thankfully there are some concerned citizens in our great dominion
00:02:21.340 who do indeed care about the rule of law.
00:02:25.980 Those are your rebels. Now let's round them up.
00:02:33.380 Friends, I've got some fantastic news to share with you today about my battle with Alberta's elections commissioner.
00:02:40.300 It's been a fight for free speech.
00:02:42.320 But our good news also comes with a pretty ominous insinuation,
00:02:46.760 something I feel is a bit of a threat from the elections commissioner, Lorne Gibson,
00:02:52.780 and we've also got a very heavy financial burden.
00:02:56.220 But first, let's get to the good news.
00:02:59.020 We won. Or at least, we won this battle this time.
00:03:03.360 For those of you who haven't been following my very near prosecution
00:03:07.400 for writing a political book about Rachel Notley's NDP,
00:03:11.560 I'll give you a brief synopsis to bring you up to speed,
00:03:15.100 because there's a lot going on.
00:03:17.020 Now last spring, I wrote a book critical of Alberta's then-socialist NDP government
00:03:22.240 called Stop Notley.
00:03:23.960 It was information I felt the Alberta public needed to know
00:03:26.960 at a time when it was most relevant to them,
00:03:29.840 before the election, before they voted.
00:03:32.340 I used really clever lawn signs as a guerrilla marketing campaign
00:03:36.320 as well as a roadside billboard to promote my book
00:03:39.620 because unlike mainstream media journalists,
00:03:42.540 I'm never going to get any glowing reviews in the Globe and Mail
00:03:46.380 or in McLean's magazine.
00:03:48.700 And my campaign worked.
00:03:50.140 My book became the most popular book on Alberta politics in 2019.
00:03:55.240 It was a success by any measure,
00:03:57.060 and it made all the right people mad,
00:03:59.220 and that made me happy.
00:04:01.100 Now let's talk about the elections commissioner.
00:04:03.840 The year previous,
00:04:05.500 Notley created a new officer in charge of political crimes
00:04:09.080 and monitoring political speech called the elections commissioner.
00:04:13.000 His name is Lorne Gibson.
00:04:15.700 He's a leftist activist who sued conservatives in his personal capacity
00:04:20.600 before he was laughed out of court.
00:04:22.680 He was the perfect fit for this weaponized bureaucracy
00:04:25.800 tasked with censoring Notley's political enemies.
00:04:29.360 So, a premier creates a commissioner
00:04:32.660 whose ostensible role is to go after ideas
00:04:36.400 that the premier and her ilk
00:04:38.920 deemed to be offensive or rude
00:04:42.020 or simply contrary to their ideology.
00:04:46.140 First, it was our billboards
00:04:48.280 that were targeted by the Notley Thought Police.
00:04:52.360 Then it was our lawn signs
00:04:54.140 advertising Sheila Gunn-Reed's best-selling book.
00:04:57.020 It makes you wonder,
00:04:59.100 did this actually occur in the province of Alberta
00:05:02.360 or the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?
00:05:06.720 And joining me now with more on a story
00:05:08.940 that has a happy ending,
00:05:10.860 albeit a bittersweet one,
00:05:13.280 is the host of The Gunn Show,
00:05:15.360 Sheila Gunn-Reed.
00:05:16.220 Welcome to Rebel Roundup, my friend.
00:05:18.540 Hey, David.
00:05:19.060 Thanks for having me on the show.
00:05:20.220 Always, always a pleasure.
00:05:21.420 So, Sheila, before I get into the amount of legal fees
00:05:25.300 this cost us to fight,
00:05:27.960 why was the Notley government
00:05:30.060 acting in such a draconian fashion
00:05:32.660 over some billboards and book signage
00:05:36.840 in the first place?
00:05:37.760 Don't they believe in freedom of expression?
00:05:41.160 Is this a trick question?
00:05:42.720 I mean, you know, Notley,
00:05:46.640 last year, sort of in the lead up
00:05:49.160 to the coming election,
00:05:50.180 she was trying to rig the process in her favour.
00:05:53.420 She created this bureaucracy called the Elections Commissioner,
00:05:57.160 and basically what the Elections Commissioner does
00:05:59.440 is monitor the political speech of non-politicians,
00:06:04.320 so what they call third-party advertisers.
00:06:06.580 But we're not a third-party advertiser,
00:06:09.040 and I think the rules regarding third-party advertisers
00:06:11.800 are too tough anyways,
00:06:13.380 because money in today's day and age
00:06:16.120 really is your free speech.
00:06:17.400 It allows you to get your message out there.
00:06:20.000 So this bureaucracy monitors
00:06:22.680 what is political spending and political speech.
00:06:28.280 That's what they do.
00:06:29.720 And it's...
00:06:30.520 Oh, sorry, Sheila.
00:06:31.820 And it seems that what they were, you know,
00:06:36.120 basing this witch hunt on
00:06:38.720 was that a sign advertising a book
00:06:43.920 might be, could be construed as an election sign,
00:06:47.720 even though it clearly said, by the book,
00:06:49.960 it wasn't endorsing any candidate
00:06:51.600 or any political party.
00:06:53.640 And for that reason alone,
00:06:56.420 they built a case against Rebel News,
00:06:59.740 and you in particular,
00:07:01.180 because I remember that ex-cop
00:07:03.600 personally phoning you,
00:07:06.400 even though we had lawyered up by that point.
00:07:10.220 Yeah.
00:07:10.700 I mean, and I had already informed him,
00:07:14.000 this is my lawyer,
00:07:14.960 this is who it is,
00:07:16.640 but he kept insisting on talking to me.
00:07:20.800 There's a special exemption in the law
00:07:24.440 that is for books
00:07:26.540 and the promotion of books,
00:07:28.660 and that's exactly what my signs were.
00:07:31.580 It said, buy the book,
00:07:33.260 right across the bottom.
00:07:34.980 I'm sorry if people aren't bright enough
00:07:37.000 to read past Stop Notley
00:07:38.680 and see buy the book,
00:07:40.420 but a week after Notley lost the election
00:07:44.620 in a catastrophic way,
00:07:45.980 we get a letter to the office in Toronto
00:07:50.380 saying that I'm being investigated
00:07:52.120 for breaking elections finance laws,
00:07:55.240 despite this very specific exemption for books.
00:07:59.300 It was really quite petty, really,
00:08:04.840 because what came out of it
00:08:06.740 was over six months of legal fees,
00:08:11.200 back and forths, and threats.
00:08:13.520 If they were investigating the lawn signs,
00:08:16.700 why was this ex-cop making demands
00:08:19.780 to see my planning emails for the book,
00:08:23.580 any sort of planning documents for the book,
00:08:25.880 editorial emails for the book.
00:08:29.120 He wasn't asking about the signs,
00:08:31.020 and these were all things
00:08:32.040 that he shouldn't even have been asking me anyways.
00:08:36.160 These were questions for my publisher,
00:08:38.580 which is Rebel News.
00:08:40.280 He wasn't asking the publisher.
00:08:42.140 He was coming after the author,
00:08:44.120 which, as you rightly point out,
00:08:45.420 is exactly the sort of thing
00:08:46.660 they do in North Korea or China
00:08:48.900 or Venezuela, you know,
00:08:52.080 and we know the NDP have a special place
00:08:54.540 in their heart for Venezuela.
00:08:56.260 And, of course, you had the good fortune
00:08:59.620 to record these phone calls.
00:09:03.720 I mean, that investigator, this ex-cop,
00:09:05.940 and, by the way,
00:09:06.740 if anyone wants to know why he's an ex-cop,
00:09:08.580 you can Google his name,
00:09:10.400 and that'll tell you a somewhat sordid story
00:09:14.880 about this individual.
00:09:15.880 But you recorded these calls,
00:09:18.360 and to me, Sheila,
00:09:19.260 he came across almost as a passive-aggressive bully
00:09:23.720 in his dealings with you.
00:09:26.360 But the thing is,
00:09:27.600 I think the absolute most egregious thing
00:09:30.160 is that by the letter of the law,
00:09:33.140 we were right,
00:09:34.640 they were wrong,
00:09:35.920 but when the elections commissioner
00:09:37.580 filed his final report about this,
00:09:42.180 I'm paraphrasing now,
00:09:43.540 but it was along the lines of,
00:09:45.800 okay, we're going to let you off,
00:09:47.640 but don't you dare do this again.
00:09:50.680 And it was kind of like,
00:09:52.020 we went to court for crossing the street
00:09:54.300 on a green light,
00:09:55.280 which is legal,
00:09:56.280 and the judge saying,
00:09:57.300 okay, we'll let it slide this time,
00:09:58.820 but don't do that in the future.
00:10:00.380 Hey, it's legal.
00:10:01.700 What do you mean don't do it in the future?
00:10:04.180 I want to get your take on that, Sheila.
00:10:05.820 And secondly, do you think,
00:10:07.740 because I don't trust these people,
00:10:09.440 do you think they're going to tinker
00:10:10.780 with the legislation
00:10:12.400 so that they do have a proviso
00:10:14.820 to make what you did
00:10:16.320 indeed illegal in the future?
00:10:18.840 Well, you know,
00:10:19.820 it's funny that you use the analogy
00:10:21.260 about crossing the street
00:10:22.280 because my husband used the analogy of,
00:10:24.800 you know,
00:10:25.040 you've been clocked going 80 on the highway
00:10:27.280 and the speed limit is 100
00:10:29.200 and they still pull you over for speeding
00:10:31.460 and then make you go to court
00:10:33.180 and fight the ticket.
00:10:34.040 And that's exactly what happened.
00:10:36.040 You know,
00:10:36.640 you paraphrased
00:10:37.500 what the elections commissioner
00:10:39.960 said to our lawyers,
00:10:42.220 but I just pulled it up on my computer
00:10:43.660 what exactly it is.
00:10:45.100 He said,
00:10:45.840 I encourage Sheila Gunn-Reed
00:10:48.020 to exercise caution
00:10:49.920 in the manner
00:10:50.800 in which she advertises her books
00:10:52.780 during an election period.
00:10:56.220 Unfortunately,
00:10:57.100 fortunately,
00:10:57.880 I mean,
00:10:58.280 it's so crazy
00:10:58.900 because we're in complete
00:11:00.500 and total compliance with the law.
00:11:02.000 So what do I have to be cautious about?
00:11:05.440 This is the creepy part,
00:11:07.180 though.
00:11:07.340 It says,
00:11:07.900 fortunately for Sheila Gunn-Reed,
00:11:10.100 my office is only able
00:11:11.700 to enforce the legislation
00:11:13.500 as it is currently written.
00:11:16.180 What do you mean fortunately for me?
00:11:18.180 That's how,
00:11:18.760 that's how
00:11:19.780 civilized society works.
00:11:22.440 That the people bound
00:11:23.580 with enforcing the law
00:11:24.880 must enforce the law
00:11:26.520 as it is written
00:11:27.220 and they just can't make it up
00:11:28.600 as they go along.
00:11:29.800 That's a pretty ominous warning
00:11:31.160 and we know
00:11:32.140 our lawyers actually
00:11:33.980 let us know
00:11:34.860 that Lorne Gibson has,
00:11:36.520 that's the elections commissioner,
00:11:38.000 he's made
00:11:38.800 very specific recommendations
00:11:40.960 to Jason Kenney's government
00:11:42.680 to change
00:11:44.700 certain things in the law
00:11:46.040 that look like
00:11:47.800 they're directed
00:11:48.540 at dealing with the rebel.
00:11:51.160 So,
00:11:51.640 I mean,
00:11:52.200 he would love
00:11:52.780 another kick at the can here
00:11:54.160 and he would love
00:11:55.600 to see the law
00:11:56.400 change specifically
00:11:57.900 so that he can carry out
00:11:59.080 this weirdo vendetta
00:12:00.460 against us
00:12:01.380 but it doesn't sound
00:12:03.060 like he's going to get
00:12:04.120 those changes
00:12:04.740 on his wish list
00:12:06.320 that he wants.
00:12:07.260 Well,
00:12:07.380 thank goodness for that,
00:12:08.200 you know,
00:12:08.440 Sheila,
00:12:08.760 and what he said
00:12:09.580 in that written decision,
00:12:10.500 it's almost like
00:12:11.260 a baseball player
00:12:13.040 going down swinging
00:12:14.020 in the ninth inning
00:12:14.860 and that loses the game
00:12:16.500 and then him saying,
00:12:18.100 but you know what,
00:12:18.660 if baseball were
00:12:19.360 ten innings long,
00:12:20.520 we might have been able
00:12:21.620 to come back.
00:12:23.140 You know,
00:12:23.380 could have,
00:12:23.820 might have,
00:12:24.160 should have.
00:12:25.520 You know,
00:12:26.060 it is baffling
00:12:27.940 but Sheila,
00:12:28.800 I said it's a bittersweet
00:12:30.580 ending to this
00:12:31.640 because yes,
00:12:33.120 you won
00:12:33.680 and we won
00:12:35.380 this battle clearly
00:12:36.620 but in terms
00:12:38.460 of the war
00:12:39.180 and I refer to this
00:12:41.120 in the big picture,
00:12:42.760 we spent tens
00:12:44.460 of thousands
00:12:45.180 of dollars
00:12:45.860 in legal fees
00:12:47.060 just to prove
00:12:48.120 that we were
00:12:48.840 in the right,
00:12:49.460 we were following
00:12:50.040 the letter of the law
00:12:51.000 and I mean,
00:12:52.820 to me,
00:12:53.500 there's a little bit
00:12:54.140 of injustice here
00:12:55.220 because of course
00:12:55.900 the other side
00:12:56.660 is just taking
00:12:58.960 their legal fees
00:13:00.400 from that bottomless
00:13:01.520 trough called
00:13:02.340 the taxpayer.
00:13:06.720 Going ahead,
00:13:08.060 is there any way
00:13:09.320 that we might
00:13:10.800 recover these legal,
00:13:12.480 is there any mechanism
00:13:13.460 to get true justice
00:13:14.940 this way?
00:13:16.400 Not really.
00:13:17.180 I mean,
00:13:17.500 that's the real problem
00:13:19.400 with the elections
00:13:20.500 commissioner,
00:13:21.200 I mean,
00:13:21.560 besides the free speech
00:13:23.040 issues.
00:13:23.640 this bureaucracy
00:13:25.720 is set up
00:13:27.800 so that
00:13:28.700 these fines
00:13:30.220 and these findings
00:13:31.360 of guilt
00:13:32.060 can be made
00:13:33.660 without ever having
00:13:35.140 to go before a judge.
00:13:36.980 So,
00:13:37.400 because of that,
00:13:38.320 we didn't get a fine
00:13:39.720 because we lawyered up
00:13:40.640 and we fought it
00:13:41.440 but we are still left
00:13:42.520 with $75,000
00:13:44.260 in legal fees
00:13:46.240 just to keep
00:13:47.140 the government
00:13:48.600 from interrogating
00:13:50.660 me,
00:13:51.120 a journalist,
00:13:51.640 about a book
00:13:52.560 I wrote
00:13:52.960 that was critical
00:13:53.660 of the government
00:13:54.280 of the day.
00:13:55.100 I mean,
00:13:55.320 that should be
00:13:55.800 an outrage
00:13:56.560 to any free-thinking,
00:13:58.840 freedom-minded individual
00:14:00.240 in the Western world.
00:14:01.860 It really should
00:14:02.620 but it's not
00:14:03.620 because a lot
00:14:05.060 of people,
00:14:06.000 their idea
00:14:08.060 of freedom
00:14:08.640 is contingent
00:14:09.580 on who it's
00:14:10.160 being applied to.
00:14:11.580 But this
00:14:12.520 elections commissioner,
00:14:14.520 they are really
00:14:15.560 the cops,
00:14:17.100 the prosecutor,
00:14:18.300 the judge,
00:14:18.820 the jury,
00:14:19.260 and the executioner.
00:14:20.320 I'll use an example
00:14:21.660 of somebody else
00:14:22.600 who's been
00:14:23.020 investigated here.
00:14:25.000 Jeff Calloway,
00:14:26.280 he was a leadership
00:14:28.100 contender
00:14:28.840 for the UCP.
00:14:32.260 He's been accused
00:14:33.260 of having
00:14:33.960 a kamikaze
00:14:35.040 candidacy.
00:14:37.300 So,
00:14:37.840 he's been accused
00:14:39.160 and I don't want
00:14:39.880 to say that
00:14:40.400 he's guilty of that.
00:14:42.240 He's been accused
00:14:43.260 of being
00:14:45.420 sort of
00:14:45.980 the attack vehicle
00:14:47.240 for Jason Kenney
00:14:48.660 to attack
00:14:49.560 Brian Jean
00:14:50.140 so that Jason Kenney
00:14:51.080 could get his hands
00:14:51.860 clean.
00:14:53.920 Jeff Calloway
00:14:54.940 has had nearly
00:14:56.240 a quarter
00:14:57.240 of a million
00:14:58.720 dollars
00:14:59.620 worth of fines
00:15:01.040 levied against him
00:15:02.600 and that doesn't
00:15:03.420 even include
00:15:04.020 his legal fees.
00:15:04.880 So,
00:15:05.080 that's levied
00:15:05.740 against him
00:15:06.260 and people
00:15:06.760 associated
00:15:07.440 with his campaign.
00:15:08.680 Now,
00:15:08.900 rightly or wrongly,
00:15:09.820 whatever you think
00:15:10.620 of Jeff Calloway's
00:15:11.940 guilt or innocence,
00:15:12.940 none of that
00:15:13.620 ever went
00:15:14.080 before a judge.
00:15:15.280 A quarter
00:15:15.960 of a million
00:15:17.180 dollars.
00:15:17.680 That's an utter
00:15:18.240 abomination
00:15:18.900 and that flies
00:15:20.460 in the face
00:15:21.140 of Canadian
00:15:21.860 sense of justice
00:15:23.060 and yet
00:15:24.140 this
00:15:25.060 bureaucracy
00:15:26.640 is just
00:15:27.540 running rampant
00:15:28.820 targeting
00:15:29.620 conservatives
00:15:30.280 and,
00:15:31.320 you know,
00:15:32.040 either you can
00:15:32.560 lawyer up
00:15:33.200 and pay
00:15:33.860 $75,000
00:15:35.500 in legal fees.
00:15:36.500 I can't even
00:15:37.220 imagine what
00:15:37.740 Jeff Calloway's
00:15:38.380 legal fees are
00:15:39.020 or you can just
00:15:40.000 start taking fines
00:15:41.420 because these
00:15:42.540 activist
00:15:43.180 investigators
00:15:44.060 get to decide
00:15:45.760 whether or not
00:15:47.220 they investigate
00:15:47.880 you all the way
00:15:48.960 through to the
00:15:49.460 execution of the
00:15:50.240 fines and it
00:15:50.740 is utterly
00:15:51.380 insane.
00:15:52.340 You know,
00:15:52.900 Sheila,
00:15:53.400 you got my
00:15:53.840 blood boiling
00:15:54.400 because this
00:15:55.540 non-elected
00:15:56.640 unaccountable
00:15:57.560 bureaucracy
00:15:58.080 which has a
00:15:59.400 vendetta,
00:16:00.020 let's face it,
00:16:01.200 against certain
00:16:02.260 people,
00:16:03.440 even when
00:16:05.080 they are wrong
00:16:06.260 and we prove
00:16:06.920 them wrong,
00:16:07.940 it's almost as
00:16:08.720 though,
00:16:09.000 Sheila,
00:16:09.300 going through
00:16:10.360 the process
00:16:10.940 is the penalty.
00:16:12.040 I mean,
00:16:12.280 for example,
00:16:13.080 if,
00:16:13.600 you know,
00:16:13.840 we didn't
00:16:14.300 have Ezra
00:16:15.480 Levant,
00:16:15.980 a free speech
00:16:16.840 champion,
00:16:17.820 willing to
00:16:18.860 go the
00:16:20.120 distance
00:16:20.660 fighting this,
00:16:21.680 if you were,
00:16:22.440 say,
00:16:22.680 a freelancer
00:16:23.600 and you
00:16:25.700 didn't have
00:16:26.600 the resources
00:16:27.460 of the rebel
00:16:29.360 and our
00:16:30.040 generous donors,
00:16:31.580 you would have
00:16:32.680 to bend the
00:16:33.200 knee or
00:16:33.560 basically,
00:16:34.360 you know,
00:16:35.240 mortgage your
00:16:35.780 house.
00:16:36.640 And this
00:16:38.160 is what's
00:16:38.680 infuriating.
00:16:39.860 You can be
00:16:40.640 right in terms
00:16:42.220 of the letter
00:16:42.720 of the law,
00:16:43.220 but they're
00:16:44.000 going to
00:16:44.260 get you
00:16:44.880 in terms
00:16:45.600 of financial
00:16:46.880 prosecution.
00:16:48.760 Yeah,
00:16:49.380 I mean,
00:16:49.720 at the very
00:16:50.320 beginning of
00:16:51.000 this,
00:16:51.580 the legislation
00:16:52.140 is perfectly
00:16:53.700 crystal clear.
00:16:55.160 It doesn't
00:16:55.740 include books.
00:16:57.020 And yet,
00:16:57.380 they still
00:16:57.980 proceeded with
00:16:58.940 an investigation
00:16:59.580 because they
00:17:00.360 got,
00:17:01.200 I suppose,
00:17:02.320 dozens and
00:17:03.000 dozens of
00:17:03.640 nuisance complaints
00:17:04.560 from NDP
00:17:05.420 activists.
00:17:06.140 That's another
00:17:06.760 thing in all
00:17:07.360 of this.
00:17:07.660 I don't
00:17:08.300 even get
00:17:09.080 to see
00:17:09.840 what the
00:17:10.680 complaints
00:17:11.080 were against
00:17:11.620 me or,
00:17:12.400 for that
00:17:12.720 matter,
00:17:13.220 who is
00:17:13.600 making the
00:17:14.320 complaints
00:17:14.660 against me.
00:17:15.320 So,
00:17:15.780 unlike the
00:17:16.680 rest of the
00:17:17.300 justice system,
00:17:18.200 I don't get
00:17:18.800 to confront
00:17:19.620 my accusers.
00:17:20.320 I don't get
00:17:20.800 to know who
00:17:21.400 my accusers
00:17:22.080 are.
00:17:22.320 I just
00:17:22.600 have to
00:17:23.140 hunker down
00:17:24.040 and take
00:17:24.540 it.
00:17:25.880 But,
00:17:26.440 yeah,
00:17:26.840 without
00:17:27.580 Ezra and
00:17:29.360 his,
00:17:29.620 you know,
00:17:30.600 his unwavering
00:17:31.660 desire to
00:17:32.340 always fight
00:17:33.340 for free
00:17:33.760 speech,
00:17:34.060 and our
00:17:35.140 generous
00:17:35.820 donors who
00:17:37.140 stepped up
00:17:38.080 and helped
00:17:38.620 every step
00:17:39.540 of the way
00:17:39.860 and recognized
00:17:40.620 that this is
00:17:41.200 truly a fight
00:17:42.060 for free
00:17:42.520 speech,
00:17:43.120 I don't know
00:17:43.720 where I would
00:17:44.200 be.
00:17:44.760 I probably
00:17:45.420 would have
00:17:46.340 been left
00:17:47.260 with no
00:17:47.900 choice to
00:17:49.880 just take
00:17:50.640 the first
00:17:51.200 fine they
00:17:51.820 gave me
00:17:52.340 and hand
00:17:52.880 over my
00:17:53.640 notes because
00:17:54.600 this is a
00:17:55.240 burden I
00:17:55.660 could never
00:17:56.200 have asked
00:17:56.720 my family
00:17:57.260 to bear.
00:17:58.360 Unbelievable.
00:17:59.100 Sheila,
00:17:59.320 we'll have
00:17:59.480 to wrap it
00:17:59.880 there.
00:18:00.140 Just one
00:18:00.560 exit question.
00:18:02.020 This was
00:18:02.960 a creature
00:18:03.640 created by
00:18:05.300 Rachel Notley's
00:18:06.360 government years
00:18:07.480 ago.
00:18:08.740 There's been
00:18:09.460 regime change
00:18:10.220 in your
00:18:10.520 province,
00:18:11.080 thankfully,
00:18:11.560 of course.
00:18:12.040 I can't
00:18:12.500 imagine
00:18:12.880 Premier
00:18:13.340 Kenney
00:18:14.020 is a
00:18:15.020 fan of
00:18:15.900 this office
00:18:16.400 and the
00:18:17.040 way it's
00:18:17.620 behaving.
00:18:18.620 Does this
00:18:19.080 mean that
00:18:20.000 this thing
00:18:21.920 can be
00:18:22.800 undone
00:18:23.540 and Alberta
00:18:24.900 can go back
00:18:25.560 to the way
00:18:26.000 things were
00:18:26.560 before there
00:18:27.080 was this
00:18:27.660 egregious
00:18:28.540 elections
00:18:29.020 commissioner?
00:18:30.240 I would
00:18:30.940 love to see
00:18:31.660 that happen,
00:18:32.600 although it
00:18:33.120 doesn't sound
00:18:33.760 that way,
00:18:34.820 especially
00:18:35.460 given the
00:18:36.180 constant
00:18:36.660 investigations
00:18:37.480 going on
00:18:38.160 with the
00:18:38.480 aforementioned
00:18:39.120 Jeff Calloway
00:18:39.980 and his
00:18:40.360 links to
00:18:40.880 Jason Kenney's
00:18:41.560 leadership
00:18:41.940 campaign.
00:18:42.780 It's just
00:18:43.320 a political
00:18:43.820 hot potato
00:18:44.480 for Jason
00:18:45.060 Kenney.
00:18:45.400 He can't
00:18:45.780 be perceived
00:18:46.640 to be
00:18:47.040 squashing
00:18:47.560 this bureaucracy
00:18:48.320 when it's
00:18:49.700 sort of
00:18:50.100 investigating
00:18:50.840 him.
00:18:51.500 It just
00:18:51.840 would be
00:18:52.520 optically
00:18:53.080 terrible.
00:18:54.060 So I
00:18:54.520 suppose it's
00:18:55.460 left up
00:18:56.120 to people
00:18:57.560 like us
00:18:58.140 here at the
00:18:58.560 rebel
00:18:58.780 and some
00:18:59.100 other groups
00:18:59.860 who are
00:19:01.200 interested in
00:19:02.500 a constitutional
00:19:03.320 challenge of
00:19:04.820 the elections
00:19:05.520 commissioner
00:19:06.080 because it
00:19:06.700 seems to be
00:19:07.280 violating a
00:19:08.060 lot of
00:19:08.520 constitutional
00:19:09.160 laws that
00:19:11.360 weren't even
00:19:12.260 considered before
00:19:13.920 its creation,
00:19:14.820 which is
00:19:15.160 unsurprising
00:19:15.980 considering the
00:19:16.920 NDP created
00:19:17.800 it.
00:19:18.520 Well, the
00:19:19.220 Rachel Notley
00:19:20.600 government is
00:19:21.120 gone, but it
00:19:22.140 seems that in
00:19:22.700 some instances,
00:19:24.460 Sheila, their
00:19:25.020 stench remains
00:19:26.560 and maybe
00:19:27.740 for a long
00:19:29.440 time for the
00:19:30.020 reasons you
00:19:30.560 outlined.
00:19:31.520 Sheila, thank
00:19:32.000 you so much
00:19:32.560 and congratulations
00:19:34.020 on this
00:19:35.500 fantastic victory
00:19:37.180 regardless of
00:19:38.360 the cost and
00:19:39.060 time it took
00:19:39.760 to fight this
00:19:40.620 battle.
00:19:41.800 Thanks, David.
00:19:42.680 And if anybody
00:19:43.400 wants to see
00:19:44.200 our communications
00:19:45.720 with the
00:19:46.620 elections
00:19:47.000 commissioner,
00:19:47.640 our legal
00:19:48.000 back and
00:19:48.580 forth, or to
00:19:49.360 see the full
00:19:50.200 story, including
00:19:51.140 listening to
00:19:52.120 some of those
00:19:52.620 recordings I
00:19:53.300 had with that
00:19:53.880 investigator, they
00:19:54.640 can go to
00:19:55.260 SaveSheila.com
00:19:57.440 and have a
00:19:58.160 great weekend,
00:19:58.740 David.
00:19:59.240 Fantastic.
00:20:00.040 And I can
00:20:00.440 think of no
00:20:00.900 other person
00:20:01.860 you'd want to
00:20:02.440 save in this
00:20:02.900 world than
00:20:03.720 Sheila Gunner.
00:20:06.300 Thank you so
00:20:07.040 much, Sheila.
00:20:07.740 And folks, keep
00:20:08.600 it here.
00:20:09.060 More of Rebel
00:20:09.580 Roundup to come
00:20:10.320 right after this.
00:20:16.560 I'm here today
00:20:17.380 at the Stonewall
00:20:18.200 Collegiate School
00:20:19.360 in Stonewall,
00:20:20.080 Manitoba.
00:20:20.700 It's become the
00:20:21.880 center of a
00:20:22.780 poppy-related
00:20:23.920 controversy.
00:20:25.260 where a student
00:20:26.040 ended up getting
00:20:26.860 expelled for
00:20:28.160 posting posters
00:20:29.260 around the
00:20:29.840 school, saying
00:20:30.360 that she wants
00:20:31.100 the poppy to
00:20:32.060 remain the
00:20:32.640 poppy, that
00:20:33.320 every Canadian
00:20:33.900 knows and
00:20:34.540 honors.
00:20:35.480 Members of
00:20:35.820 the faculty
00:20:36.200 wanted Natalie
00:20:36.920 and her school
00:20:38.020 friends to
00:20:38.560 don an abridged
00:20:39.440 version of the
00:20:40.060 poppy, an
00:20:40.600 LGBT rainbow
00:20:41.880 version of the
00:20:42.580 poppy, and
00:20:43.000 Natalie simply
00:20:43.700 wasn't having
00:20:44.660 any of it.
00:20:45.780 I caught up
00:20:46.260 with Natalie
00:20:46.640 and her father
00:20:47.540 earlier today.
00:20:48.620 Natalie, would
00:20:49.260 you be able to
00:20:49.700 tell me how
00:20:50.620 this all started?
00:20:51.340 It started
00:20:54.000 when a few
00:20:55.840 teachers and
00:20:56.780 students started
00:20:57.720 to try to
00:20:58.440 force their
00:20:59.260 beliefs and
00:21:00.460 their ways of
00:21:02.400 living onto
00:21:03.160 us by saying
00:21:04.800 that we should
00:21:05.420 wear a
00:21:06.260 multicolored
00:21:06.920 poppy during
00:21:07.800 our Remembrance
00:21:08.620 Day service
00:21:09.380 today at
00:21:10.000 school.
00:21:10.360 school, but I
00:21:13.580 feel strongly
00:21:14.820 against it.
00:21:15.840 My grandparents,
00:21:17.040 they fought in
00:21:17.720 the war.
00:21:18.280 They might not
00:21:18.760 have died, but
00:21:19.680 they still did
00:21:20.920 it, so that
00:21:21.480 has a big
00:21:22.120 impact on my
00:21:23.020 life.
00:21:24.280 And so I
00:21:25.940 decided that I
00:21:26.900 would go to
00:21:27.420 school, type up
00:21:28.220 some papers of
00:21:30.460 my opinions and
00:21:31.880 how I was
00:21:32.620 feeling and my
00:21:33.420 beliefs about
00:21:34.160 it, and I
00:21:35.720 went around and
00:21:36.340 taped them up
00:21:36.900 on the walls of
00:21:37.420 the school, and
00:21:39.100 they instantly got
00:21:39.960 taken down, and
00:21:41.780 the principals
00:21:42.880 pulled me into
00:21:43.800 the office and
00:21:44.840 began to yell
00:21:45.840 at me and
00:21:46.620 accuse me of
00:21:47.420 hate crime and
00:21:48.240 hate speech.
00:21:49.260 Well, I know
00:21:49.680 what you're
00:21:49.920 thinking, folks.
00:21:50.920 That new and
00:21:52.180 not-so-improved
00:21:53.160 poppy is so, so
00:21:55.300 wrong on so, so
00:21:56.860 many levels.
00:21:58.240 First, some
00:21:58.940 presumably woke
00:22:00.020 educrat decides
00:22:01.300 he's going to
00:22:02.060 promote a
00:22:02.680 rainbow-colored
00:22:03.620 poppy, meaning
00:22:05.080 of course it no
00:22:06.060 longer resembles
00:22:06.920 the Legion-approved
00:22:08.780 poppy
00:22:09.300 whatsoever.
00:22:10.680 And then, when a
00:22:11.720 couple of students
00:22:12.340 put up posters
00:22:13.540 decrying this
00:22:14.680 poppy vandalism,
00:22:16.680 they are suspended
00:22:17.600 and get accused
00:22:18.700 of, wait for it,
00:22:20.980 hate speech.
00:22:22.560 But how is
00:22:23.520 taking a
00:22:24.320 principled stance
00:22:25.380 hateful?
00:22:26.640 How is doing the
00:22:27.840 right thing, i.e.
00:22:28.920 standing up for
00:22:29.940 poppy classic,
00:22:31.780 an act of
00:22:32.600 hate speech?
00:22:34.900 Well, joining me
00:22:35.680 now is our roving
00:22:36.780 reporter, Kian
00:22:37.640 Bextie, who went
00:22:38.580 to Manitoba to
00:22:39.500 get to the
00:22:40.100 bottom of this
00:22:41.060 sordid story.
00:22:42.160 Welcome to
00:22:42.760 Rebel Roundup,
00:22:43.420 Kian.
00:22:44.560 Thanks for having
00:22:45.040 me, David.
00:22:45.580 You got it.
00:22:46.080 Always a pleasure,
00:22:46.700 my friend.
00:22:47.200 So, Kian, so
00:22:48.340 many angles, so
00:22:49.400 many head-spinning
00:22:50.640 details pertaining
00:22:51.800 to this awful
00:22:52.880 story, but first
00:22:53.820 things first, just
00:22:55.240 what the heck was
00:22:56.620 the impetus for
00:22:58.080 the school deciding
00:22:59.240 to desecrate the
00:23:00.680 poppy in the
00:23:01.240 first place?
00:23:01.840 I mean, you
00:23:05.960 did a story on
00:23:07.020 this two years
00:23:08.160 ago, I think.
00:23:09.240 You were laughing
00:23:10.080 at the idea of a
00:23:11.160 rainbow poppy, and
00:23:13.740 your story became
00:23:16.360 reality.
00:23:17.300 It didn't take
00:23:17.900 long for fiction to
00:23:19.040 become a fact.
00:23:20.080 I actually couldn't
00:23:20.920 believe it when I
00:23:22.340 heard it, because it
00:23:22.920 wasn't just this
00:23:23.600 school that started
00:23:24.440 talking about it
00:23:26.080 first.
00:23:26.560 There was rumblings
00:23:27.420 throughout social
00:23:28.380 media that this was
00:23:29.460 kind of this cool
00:23:30.320 and poppy, this
00:23:31.600 rainbow-colored
00:23:32.500 poppy that was
00:23:34.680 somehow, you
00:23:36.920 know, was for the
00:23:37.840 LGBT community that
00:23:39.980 was fighting in
00:23:42.260 World War I and
00:23:42.880 World War II.
00:23:44.400 And then the school
00:23:45.840 decided, I guess, it
00:23:46.900 would be a good
00:23:48.300 thing to promote.
00:23:50.240 And then Natalie
00:23:51.560 wasn't having any
00:23:52.800 of it and started
00:23:54.480 putting up posters.
00:23:55.660 And once she put up
00:23:56.800 posters, she was
00:23:58.280 suspended within a
00:24:00.060 few hours.
00:24:00.560 You know, it's
00:24:01.940 amazing, and by
00:24:03.080 the way, just to
00:24:03.660 fill in the gaps
00:24:04.280 there, Kian, yeah,
00:24:05.020 back in 2016, you
00:24:06.660 know, we used to do
00:24:07.140 a little segment
00:24:07.740 called Generation
00:24:08.600 Trudeau on campus,
00:24:09.960 and we went to
00:24:10.720 Ryerson University,
00:24:12.120 probably one of the
00:24:13.160 most progressive
00:24:13.960 woke campuses in
00:24:15.880 Canada.
00:24:16.640 And the idea was
00:24:17.700 that we came up
00:24:18.360 with four new
00:24:19.540 poppies.
00:24:20.220 We were just making
00:24:21.240 things up as
00:24:22.000 outrageous as we
00:24:22.880 could be.
00:24:23.520 And one was a
00:24:24.320 rainbow-colored
00:24:24.980 LGBT poppy.
00:24:27.260 And I have to
00:24:28.560 say, I have to
00:24:29.020 give kudos to the
00:24:29.780 kids on campus for
00:24:30.760 a change.
00:24:31.720 The vast majority
00:24:32.540 said, no, that's
00:24:33.500 not cool.
00:24:34.360 The traditional
00:24:35.000 poppy is the way
00:24:36.600 it should be left.
00:24:37.480 But like you said,
00:24:38.140 three years later,
00:24:39.320 an outrageous goof
00:24:40.740 on my part becomes
00:24:42.320 reality.
00:24:42.880 But here's the
00:24:43.740 thing, Kian.
00:24:44.640 When it comes to
00:24:45.700 this poppy, the
00:24:46.900 classic red and
00:24:48.420 black poppy, by
00:24:50.600 very definition, it
00:24:51.880 is inclusive.
00:24:52.740 This is all about
00:24:53.720 remembering the
00:24:55.080 war dead.
00:24:55.680 There's no
00:24:56.520 asterisk, there's
00:24:58.020 no caveat saying
00:24:59.600 this is about the
00:25:01.240 straight men and
00:25:02.800 women who gave
00:25:03.780 their lives on the
00:25:04.680 battlefield in
00:25:05.880 World War I, World
00:25:06.840 War II, the
00:25:07.380 Korean conflict, and
00:25:08.400 so forth.
00:25:09.620 It doesn't exclude
00:25:11.600 anybody.
00:25:12.640 So I think an
00:25:13.740 LGBT rainbow-colored
00:25:15.980 poppy is a
00:25:17.740 solution looking for
00:25:19.520 a problem that
00:25:20.600 does not exist.
00:25:23.300 Yeah.
00:25:24.000 I mean, you're
00:25:24.480 absolutely right.
00:25:25.260 everybody bleeds
00:25:26.360 red, and that's
00:25:27.820 what the poem was
00:25:29.180 written for.
00:25:29.880 You know, in
00:25:30.520 Flanders Fields, where
00:25:33.180 the poppies are
00:25:33.760 growing, it's not
00:25:34.900 rainbow poppies that
00:25:36.100 are growing.
00:25:36.780 It's, you know, the
00:25:37.700 red represents the
00:25:39.440 blood that was
00:25:40.000 spilled by our
00:25:40.680 soldiers, and the
00:25:42.140 black represents the
00:25:43.400 widows that were
00:25:43.940 left behind.
00:25:45.360 So, yeah, I think
00:25:48.040 that this rainbow
00:25:49.080 poppy is an
00:25:49.760 affront to everything
00:25:50.920 that we value as a
00:25:53.440 Western country, because
00:25:54.520 it's not just this
00:25:57.080 day, November 11th,
00:25:59.200 right?
00:25:59.380 The whole lead-up to
00:26:00.580 this, our honoring of
00:26:02.060 our former soldiers,
00:26:03.520 they're trying to
00:26:04.360 corrupt this for their
00:26:06.100 own current year
00:26:08.220 political agenda, is
00:26:09.680 what I call it.
00:26:10.260 The current year, you
00:26:11.620 know, whatever the
00:26:12.100 fad is.
00:26:12.760 And right now, it's
00:26:13.480 the LGBT poppy.
00:26:15.320 It's the LGBT
00:26:17.440 community in general.
00:26:18.880 And you know what's
00:26:19.700 interesting, David?
00:26:20.480 I was actually at
00:26:21.660 Stonewall Collegiate
00:26:22.600 yesterday speaking to
00:26:24.420 the students of the
00:26:25.720 school and the
00:26:27.540 principal and the
00:26:28.140 superintendent, and the
00:26:29.320 students of the
00:26:29.980 school were outraged
00:26:31.600 by this.
00:26:32.320 They thought it was
00:26:32.920 despicable that Natalie
00:26:34.280 was suspended, first
00:26:35.800 off, but they also
00:26:36.780 thought that the
00:26:37.360 rainbow-colored poppy
00:26:38.360 was despicable, and
00:26:39.860 this was coming from
00:26:41.300 LGBT students
00:26:42.800 themselves.
00:26:43.740 I interviewed two of
00:26:44.720 them.
00:26:45.320 There were these
00:26:46.280 young ladies.
00:26:47.820 I think they were in
00:26:48.600 grade 11.
00:26:50.060 And they said, you
00:26:51.660 know, even as a
00:26:52.320 member of the
00:26:52.780 community, they
00:26:54.000 thought that this
00:26:54.900 showed just the most
00:26:56.020 disrespect to our
00:26:58.660 fallen veterans.
00:27:00.600 So I think that
00:27:01.760 there's still some
00:27:02.400 faith in the students
00:27:03.520 in Generation Z, the
00:27:05.400 Zoomers that are
00:27:06.000 coming up.
00:27:06.700 I don't think they're
00:27:07.420 the problem.
00:27:08.340 I don't think the
00:27:08.920 LGBT community is the
00:27:10.180 problem here either.
00:27:11.520 The people that are
00:27:12.280 pushing this are all
00:27:13.740 straight, middle-aged,
00:27:15.300 women and some men who
00:27:18.440 have too much time on
00:27:19.480 their hands.
00:27:20.400 That's where this is
00:27:21.040 coming from.
00:27:22.120 So, yeah, I guess I'll...
00:27:25.140 No, I think you're
00:27:26.600 absolutely right, Kean.
00:27:27.480 It's an ongoing trend.
00:27:28.600 I mean, many years ago,
00:27:29.720 I uncovered a memo.
00:27:31.440 It was leaked to me, and
00:27:32.860 it was the Toronto
00:27:33.480 District School Board
00:27:34.500 putting out six reasons
00:27:35.960 why Halloween, of all
00:27:37.640 things, isn't so much
00:27:39.160 fun, and they were
00:27:40.600 outrageous reasons, and
00:27:41.700 when I went to the
00:27:42.300 school board to find
00:27:43.200 out who complained, how
00:27:45.260 many complaints did they
00:27:46.300 get, the answer was
00:27:47.840 zero.
00:27:48.600 So basically, this was a
00:27:49.980 little star chamber at
00:27:51.980 the TDSB dreaming up
00:27:54.800 ideas that might be,
00:27:56.640 could be, perhaps will be
00:27:59.180 offensive to certain
00:28:01.480 individuals or groups that
00:28:02.960 didn't exist.
00:28:03.620 So I totally agree,
00:28:04.900 these are people with
00:28:05.980 too much time on their
00:28:07.120 hands trying to dream up
00:28:08.760 ways to be non-offensive
00:28:10.700 when there's no offense
00:28:11.940 in the first place.
00:28:12.780 But, Kean, what I want
00:28:13.580 to get to you, what I
00:28:15.200 want to get more
00:28:15.740 information about is
00:28:16.640 when Natalie and our
00:28:17.340 friend put up these
00:28:18.120 posters, there was no
00:28:20.320 kind of hateful language
00:28:22.080 I could see in these
00:28:23.180 posters, and yet they're
00:28:24.160 suspended on the
00:28:25.800 principle of hate speech
00:28:28.240 just for standing up for
00:28:29.860 the traditional
00:28:30.420 politics.
00:28:31.220 Kean, to me, that is
00:28:32.860 an outrageous stretch of
00:28:35.160 the definition of hate
00:28:36.580 speech.
00:28:38.160 You're absolutely right
00:28:39.200 about that, David.
00:28:39.980 Section 319 of the
00:28:41.640 Criminal Code, in case
00:28:42.540 any of the viewers want
00:28:43.280 to look it up, it very
00:28:45.660 explicitly defines what
00:28:46.760 hate speech is, and
00:28:47.800 now whether or not you
00:28:48.600 believe hate speech should
00:28:49.720 be regulated in the
00:28:51.060 Criminal Code, it's not
00:28:52.100 the point here.
00:28:53.280 This poster that she put
00:28:55.780 up doesn't even meet the
00:28:57.740 most broad definition of
00:28:59.480 hate speech, perhaps the
00:29:01.080 most edgy thing she said
00:29:02.420 there was keep it in your
00:29:04.000 pants.
00:29:05.200 Is that hate speech in
00:29:06.480 2019, David?
00:29:08.260 I don't think so.
00:29:09.560 And, you know, the other
00:29:10.400 factor here, Kean, is
00:29:12.540 could you imagine the
00:29:14.780 outrage if we reverse
00:29:16.460 things?
00:29:16.760 I'm coming up with another
00:29:17.800 goof here, but it's kind
00:29:20.220 of a scenario that's the
00:29:21.500 reverse of what happened.
00:29:22.600 Say there was a gay pride
00:29:23.760 parade and members of the
00:29:25.040 Canadian Legion went up and
00:29:27.260 down the spectators asking
00:29:29.320 to confiscate their rainbow
00:29:31.080 colored flags and giving
00:29:32.220 them a little flag with a
00:29:33.800 poppy on it.
00:29:35.400 Could you imagine the
00:29:37.740 howls of outrage and
00:29:40.020 homophobia, transphobia that
00:29:42.780 would result from that kind
00:29:44.800 of social engineering?
00:29:46.920 Yeah, this kind of thing
00:29:48.000 works one way and not the
00:29:50.100 other.
00:29:50.600 These people who I was
00:29:52.140 saying are just cooking this
00:29:54.540 stuff up just because they
00:29:55.600 have too much time on their
00:29:56.520 hands, that's partly the
00:29:58.460 reason, but I think what
00:30:00.420 motivates them is the
00:30:02.700 outrage that ensues.
00:30:04.280 It's like crack to them.
00:30:06.440 Seeing this story blow up,
00:30:08.880 I'm sure, just made them so
00:30:10.760 happy because they know that
00:30:11.980 they're sticking it to the
00:30:13.420 middle-aged white man, you
00:30:14.800 know, but at the end of the
00:30:16.580 day, they're just in it for
00:30:17.720 the outrage.
00:30:18.540 It's outrage culture.
00:30:19.560 They just get a high from it.
00:30:21.720 Whereas, you know, we don't.
00:30:23.400 We let them go do their own
00:30:24.760 thing.
00:30:25.060 If they want to go march in a
00:30:26.100 private, go ahead.
00:30:27.840 If you want to fly a rainbow
00:30:29.720 flag on your property, go
00:30:31.520 right ahead.
00:30:32.100 We're not going to bother you.
00:30:33.040 But to them, to the leftists,
00:30:36.640 to the straight, middle-aged
00:30:38.740 social justice warriors,
00:30:41.300 anything they can do to
00:30:42.520 outrage the mainstream gets
00:30:45.000 them off.
00:30:45.780 You know, I think you're right
00:30:47.260 about that, Kian, and I think
00:30:49.140 right now they're already in
00:30:50.480 their little war rooms
00:30:51.420 thinking, where else can we
00:30:53.180 push the envelope?
00:30:53.760 Hey, maybe they're going to do
00:30:55.360 a rainbow-colored Santa Claus
00:30:57.540 costume, you know.
00:30:59.280 And again, it would be, you
00:31:00.640 know, Santa Claus.
00:31:01.880 I'm not comparing Santa to
00:31:05.840 Remembrance Day.
00:31:06.940 But, I mean, that's just a
00:31:08.120 make-believe construct.
00:31:09.680 But again, the principle
00:31:11.080 stands.
00:31:12.000 Nothing in the Santa legend
00:31:13.220 says this guy flies around the
00:31:15.280 world on Christmas Eve giving
00:31:16.900 straight kids presents, right?
00:31:19.080 You know, so again, it's trying
00:31:20.760 to create an issue that
00:31:22.780 doesn't exist.
00:31:24.600 You know, Kian, I've got to
00:31:25.780 tell you, your epilogue to the
00:31:27.560 story had my blood boiling.
00:31:30.000 And that was, I believe it was
00:31:31.340 at Global and CTV News were,
00:31:34.020 you know, investigating this as
00:31:36.540 a story, as well as it should,
00:31:38.200 because it's one hell of a
00:31:39.560 story, especially for this time
00:31:41.500 of year with Remembrance Day on
00:31:42.700 Monday.
00:31:43.440 And it looks like they've
00:31:46.000 abandoned it.
00:31:46.780 They're not going forward with
00:31:47.940 it.
00:31:48.840 Why?
00:31:50.860 I mean, did you ever trust an
00:31:52.460 mainstream media to cover a
00:31:53.900 story such as this?
00:31:55.460 I was in the parking lot
00:31:56.740 interviewing Natalie.
00:31:58.180 It was parking lot of a
00:31:58.940 McDonald's in Winnipeg.
00:32:00.860 And immediately after, well,
00:32:03.140 actually, I arrived.
00:32:04.520 And then immediately after,
00:32:05.860 Global News arrived.
00:32:06.800 And I made them wait out in
00:32:07.780 the cold for about 30 minutes
00:32:09.080 while I interviewed Natalie
00:32:10.180 and her father.
00:32:11.240 And that made me feel a
00:32:11.920 little bit good.
00:32:12.980 And then when I wrapped up,
00:32:14.500 the Global News guy came and
00:32:15.840 started conducting his own
00:32:17.020 interview, taking his own
00:32:17.840 pictures.
00:32:18.360 So I know they did it.
00:32:20.120 I know for a fact that they
00:32:21.580 were onto the story.
00:32:22.960 But once the interview didn't
00:32:24.480 turn out the way they wanted,
00:32:26.780 I guess they said, yeah,
00:32:28.580 we're not even going to
00:32:29.360 publish something on it.
00:32:30.520 And now the problem is it
00:32:33.140 makes it makes Natalie feel
00:32:35.760 like maybe she is in the
00:32:37.420 wrong.
00:32:37.740 Maybe she is guilty of speech.
00:32:39.580 She's just a high school girl.
00:32:41.960 And when the mainstream media,
00:32:43.880 Global News and CTV say, yeah,
00:32:46.200 we're not going to cover this
00:32:47.520 story.
00:32:47.980 You're some sort of villain
00:32:49.200 almost.
00:32:51.000 That cuts deep to a young woman.
00:32:55.260 So that's why I am creating a
00:32:57.700 petition.
00:32:58.360 It's called ProtectOurPoppies.ca.
00:33:01.000 It's plural.
00:33:02.300 ProtectOurPoppies.ca.
00:33:03.400 We're signing this letter of
00:33:05.220 support for Natalie.
00:33:07.160 We're signing this letter of
00:33:08.240 support for our original poppy,
00:33:10.680 for the way it was intended to
00:33:12.580 be worn and represented to
00:33:15.020 honor our fallen soldiers.
00:33:18.320 And we're going to send that
00:33:19.740 letter to Natalie so that she
00:33:21.460 knows, A, she's not alone.
00:33:23.460 Canadians are on her side.
00:33:24.680 And actually, even we got a few
00:33:25.860 letters from Scotland.
00:33:27.400 We got some from the United
00:33:29.240 States.
00:33:30.260 People around the world actually
00:33:31.840 support Natalie and her, you
00:33:35.460 know, her standing up for the
00:33:36.780 values of free speech, freedom
00:33:38.340 of expression, and standing up
00:33:39.520 for the poppy story.
00:33:40.340 We're going to send it to
00:33:40.820 Natalie.
00:33:41.440 We're going to also send this
00:33:42.480 petition to the school
00:33:45.040 administration so that they know
00:33:46.480 how off base they are with the
00:33:49.000 rest of the world.
00:33:49.900 This isn't how Canadians operate.
00:33:51.980 Canadians respect their
00:33:52.820 veterans and they respect people
00:33:54.400 who stand up for free speech
00:33:55.560 and free expression.
00:33:56.460 So that's what I want to show
00:33:57.340 Natalie.
00:33:57.640 So I encourage your viewers to
00:33:59.020 go sign that petition at
00:34:00.040 ProtectOurPuppies.
00:34:01.460 You know, I think that's a
00:34:03.800 fantastic initiative on your
00:34:05.280 part because I can tell you,
00:34:06.680 I mean, you and I, we've got
00:34:08.540 pretty tough skin given the kind
00:34:10.780 of stuff we have to deal with
00:34:12.660 on a daily basis.
00:34:13.780 But I remember what it was like
00:34:15.240 in high school.
00:34:16.320 I mean, the high school was your
00:34:17.580 world, your universe, and you
00:34:19.620 were very susceptible to what
00:34:22.060 others thought of you or said
00:34:24.020 about you.
00:34:24.600 I can empathize, you know, with
00:34:27.620 what, you know, Natalie is going
00:34:30.060 through.
00:34:30.400 So I think showing her that the
00:34:32.600 vast majority of people out there
00:34:34.340 are on her side will be fantastic,
00:34:37.480 you know, if she's suffering from
00:34:39.980 any stress for this outrageous
00:34:42.420 issue.
00:34:44.160 And the second thing is, Kian, what
00:34:46.740 these educrats don't understand, I
00:34:49.440 think, is that when you talk to
00:34:51.460 people at the Legion, there is a
00:34:53.520 very certain protocol of how a
00:34:56.220 poppy should be worn when you
00:34:58.620 start wearing a poppy, when you
00:35:00.640 take it off.
00:35:01.980 It's all codified.
00:35:03.940 And for them to say, we're going
00:35:05.720 to give this a slick new paint
00:35:07.380 job, you know, Kian, I can only
00:35:09.560 imagine what veterans in the Legion
00:35:12.040 halls across our dominion are
00:35:13.920 thinking about this in the first
00:35:15.960 place.
00:35:16.560 And, you know, I want to get your
00:35:18.040 thoughts on that because I think
00:35:19.440 ultimately what they were, what
00:35:21.400 they've really done in trying to
00:35:23.320 be inclusive when there was no
00:35:25.360 inclusivity issue at play is to
00:35:28.660 outright disrespect the veterans.
00:35:32.560 I think that's an excellent
00:35:33.960 question.
00:35:34.600 And next time I see a veteran, I'll
00:35:36.660 certainly ask them.
00:35:37.700 Maybe on camera, too.
00:35:39.460 Maybe I'll go to the Legion.
00:35:40.840 I have a membership, actually, to
00:35:42.240 the Legion.
00:35:43.000 I encourage everyone to get one
00:35:44.460 because it's a great place to be,
00:35:46.580 eat beer, and you get to hear
00:35:47.700 great stories from great people.
00:35:49.960 So when I do go, I'll maybe have
00:35:52.560 to ask them.
00:35:53.000 Maybe I'll pull up my camera and
00:35:54.080 see what they think.
00:35:55.160 Fantastic.
00:35:55.800 Well, Kian, a fantastic story.
00:35:57.520 I urge all our viewers to go and
00:35:59.560 watch the full report.
00:36:01.600 So thank you so much for that.
00:36:03.980 Thanks, David.
00:36:04.580 And you know what?
00:36:05.180 I'm going to save this episode.
00:36:06.760 And when I see a rainbow Santa in
00:36:08.800 the near future, I'm sure I'm going
00:36:10.340 to blame you.
00:36:12.380 Okay.
00:36:15.400 Well, Kian, as I've always said, this
00:36:17.420 is why Mad Magazine went out of
00:36:18.920 business in August.
00:36:19.960 You can't parody real life anymore.
00:36:22.660 So I'll take the blame for that.
00:36:24.640 So thank you again for a great piece,
00:36:26.360 Kian.
00:36:27.240 All right.
00:36:27.800 Talk to you later.
00:36:28.400 Gotcha.
00:36:28.900 And that was Kian Bexty in Calgary.
00:36:32.020 Keep it here, folks.
00:36:33.020 More of a Rebel Roundup to come right
00:36:34.580 after this.
00:36:40.300 Now, if we can just back this up a
00:36:42.900 second, a lot of people across
00:36:45.040 Canada are probably scratching their
00:36:47.760 heads and wondering, with the
00:36:50.120 preponderance of evidence against
00:36:52.840 Justin Trudeau, where, oh, where is
00:36:56.560 the RCMP in this?
00:36:58.160 Why?
00:36:58.680 I mean, private prosecution is one
00:37:01.280 thing, but why isn't the, why aren't
00:37:04.020 the Mounties involved in this, Gary?
00:37:06.000 Well, what are your thoughts on that?
00:37:07.600 Well, I don't know a single case
00:37:09.180 within my lifetime of the police
00:37:11.560 holding any politicians accountable.
00:37:13.200 We don't seem to do that in this
00:37:14.260 country.
00:37:15.200 It didn't take me too long on the
00:37:17.080 internet to download enough evidence
00:37:19.280 that Justin Trudeau committed
00:37:21.060 obstruction of justice.
00:37:23.260 There's public testimony by the
00:37:25.320 previous attorney general.
00:37:27.860 There's been an investigation by the
00:37:29.940 ethics commissioner.
00:37:31.300 Like, there's a mountain of
00:37:32.560 evidence, both recorded phone calls,
00:37:34.780 so you actually have first-hand
00:37:37.380 evidence of who said what to whom.
00:37:41.140 And so if I, as a private citizen,
00:37:43.020 within a few hours can gather enough
00:37:45.360 evidence to have the charge laid and
00:37:48.040 would be successful in a trial, I can't
00:37:50.820 see how the RCMP takes six months or a
00:37:54.160 year or even longer to do what I can do
00:37:57.500 on the internet just through Google search.
00:37:59.160 It's truly incredible.
00:38:01.280 In the fallout of the SNC-Lavalin
00:38:03.580 scandal, Justin Trudeau was never
00:38:05.520 convicted of anything or, heck, even
00:38:07.920 charged with anything.
00:38:09.760 Rather, he was rewarded with another
00:38:12.160 term in office.
00:38:13.420 But while the Mounties seemed to be
00:38:15.220 asleep at the switch for whatever
00:38:17.080 unspoken reason, that didn't stop Gary
00:38:20.020 McHale from filing a private prosecution
00:38:22.300 against the Prime Minister in provincial
00:38:24.800 court in Ottawa on Monday.
00:38:27.300 Alas, it didn't go anywhere, although
00:38:29.980 McHale plans on filing an appeal.
00:38:33.040 But unlike the cops, at least Gary McHale
00:38:35.760 is trying to get a measure of justice
00:38:37.980 when it comes to lab scam.
00:38:41.540 In any event, here's what some of you had
00:38:43.260 to say about one man's quest to have
00:38:45.260 Justin Trudeau answer for his
00:38:47.700 indiscretions.
00:38:48.660 You know, I agree, Pilot Barbie, and it
00:38:56.640 should be noted that this is not merely
00:38:58.900 a stunt.
00:39:00.380 Gary McHale has successfully used private
00:39:02.780 prosecutions against other institutions
00:39:05.400 in the past.
00:39:06.900 It's just that with this matter, he's
00:39:09.140 going up against the most powerful man
00:39:10.860 in the country, but not even the Prime
00:39:13.260 Minister should be above the law.
00:39:15.500 Well, you know, Pam, I think a growing
00:39:29.560 number of Canadians feel exactly the same
00:39:32.100 way you do.
00:39:33.180 How sad.
00:39:34.660 Decades ago, the Mounties were the gold
00:39:37.200 standard when it came to law enforcement.
00:39:40.080 But perhaps those days are gone.
00:39:41.840 And Aubrey Young writes,
00:39:44.540 It should be obvious to anyone at this
00:39:47.000 point that the Crown and the RCMP are not
00:39:50.360 here to pursue justice and uphold the rule
00:39:52.600 of law.
00:39:53.540 They are here to subjugate the peasants while
00:39:55.880 protecting the ruling class of elites,
00:39:58.740 allowing them to go unchecked while they
00:40:01.380 commit crimes against us.
00:40:04.020 Hey, you know something, Aubrey?
00:40:05.900 Some days, it sure does seem that way,
00:40:08.520 doesn't it?
00:40:08.980 Well, that wraps up another edition of
00:40:11.920 Rebel Roundup.
00:40:12.720 Thanks so much for tuning in.
00:40:14.020 And remember, folks, without risk,
00:40:16.140 there can be no glory.
00:40:17.600 Good night.
00:40:18.060 We'll see you next time.