Rebel Roundup： Sheila Gunn Reid and Keean Bexte
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Sheila Gunn-Reed and Kian Bextie join host David Menzies to discuss the latest in the ongoing case against a New Brunswick cop who pepper-sprayed Walter Matheson after he recorded an interaction in a parking lot of a Tim Hortons.
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Tonight, my guests are Sheila Gunn-Reed and Kian Bextie.
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Welcome to Rebel Roundup, ladies and gentlemen, and the rest of you,
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in which we look back at some of the very best commentaries of the week by your favourite rebels.
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Say, remember our Fight the Fines case regarding Walter Matheson of Hampton, New Brunswick?
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He's the senior who was issued a Wuhan virus ticket by a policeman for sitting alone in his car in the parking lot of a Timmy's?
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It turns out the cop's feelings were hurt by our video,
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so Officer Snowflake, well, he sicked his lawyers on us.
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Just will you hear what Sheila Gunn-Reed has to report?
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And it turns out that Kian Bextie was way ahead of the curve when it came to predicting that the Justin Trudeau Liberals would charge forward
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with virtual citizenship hearings during this global pandemic.
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Kian correctly predicted this would be the case about a month ago,
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and now the Liberals have made it official, but only to select media outlets, of course.
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And finally, letters. We get your letters. We get your letters every minute of every day.
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And I'll share some of your responses regarding my recent visit to an Antifa protest outside the U.S. Consulate in Toronto.
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And once again, I left the demonstration wondering why it is that those on the far left
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are so completely unable to articulate their positions.
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But wow, they sure love the dish out profanity.
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Those are your rebels. Now let's round them up.
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Here's your ticket. Leave the park right now, sir. Let's get another one.
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You're lucky. You're the first. You're the first out.
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However, Walter brilliantly recorded the interaction and then he gave it to us.
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Now, I hate being part of this story. I really do.
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Because we've now received a legal threat letter on behalf of the cop who ticketed Walter.
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And I'll stop as I'm reading to point things that I notice out to you if that's okay.
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Because I am almost 100% certain this lawyer did not watch the video or read the accompanying website article before firing off this bullying and threatening letter to us at Rebel News.
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Now, I just want to point out that she got the address wrong.
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Please be advised we represent Constable Thompson with respect to the above cited matter.
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We understand one of your reporters named Sheila Gunn-Reed published an article, Aggressive Bullying by Police.
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The grammar here, it's not great for a legal letter.
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There are extra commas just hanging around all over the place.
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We understand your reporter recorded a conversation without the knowledge of Constable Thompson.
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No, no, you definitely don't understand that because I didn't do that.
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Next time, watch the video before sending off a letter about how bad that video is.
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I say repeatedly in the video that the recording of the interaction came to us by way of Walter Matheson.
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He recorded his own interaction with a cop and then sent it to us.
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I definitely wasn't on the other side of the country sitting in a Tim Hortons parking lot with a man I absolutely didn't know at the time recording an interaction with a cop.
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Remember that 1998 movie, There's Something About Mary?
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I think we should give serious consideration toward making a flick entitled, There's Something About Hampton, New Brunswick.
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First, we encounter an inexplicably angry and foul-mouthed cop giving a senior a ticket for having the utter temerity to sit alone inside his car at a Timmy's parking lot
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as he consumes a muffin and coffee, which is apparently a hot button when it comes to spreading the Wuhan virus.
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And then this same officer gets triggered by our Fight the Fines video about the incident to such a degree that he sicks the local law firm on us to demand,
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well, demand what exactly? That we cease and desist the practice of journalism?
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Yeah, there's something about Hampton, New Brunswick, all right.
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And with more on this tale of maritime madness is the recipient of that legal letter, Sheila Gunn-Reed.
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Hey, David. It's so great to be back in studio.
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Well, you know, Sheila, it's great to see you in person.
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And I have to tell you, the clip ended with that lawyer suggesting that the recording of the conversation was illegal.
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Secondly, even if you had, we have in Canada basically one-party consent.
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In other words, if you were to phone me and record our conversation, that's completely legal.
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If somebody else, a third party, recorded our conversation and neither knew it, that's illegal.
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So I guess what I'm leading up to is it's almost as though this partner at this law firm doesn't even understand the basics of the law.
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You know, I think she does understand the basics of the law.
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She doesn't understand the basics of Rebel News, nor does she understand the basics of Sheila Gunn-Reed.
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I suspect her and this cop go around, and this is pure speculation, but just how my name was filled in in between two commas that didn't need to be there.
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It looks like this was a form letter that they dish out to a lot of other people they'd like to shut up around town.
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Small town cop, small town lawyer looking to bully people.
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I'm not a big city girl, but I'm not about to be bullied by lawyers, by cops.
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From eating the muffin to making the recording, Walter didn't do anything wrong.
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And it was pretty clear the cop didn't even do, or the lawyer didn't even do the most basic level of intel on us,
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or even read the website article or watch the video before she fired off this legal demand letter,
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which culminated with a demand for me, a journalist, to turn over my recording over to the Hampton RCMP.
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Well, you know, what you said, this makes it even worse, I think, Sheila, in that she knows full well what the law says,
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She's thinking we'll be too stupid or too intimidated to stand up for our rights.
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And also, you know, folks, I've got to tell you, you have to see the original video,
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because this is a self-infected wound by the officer.
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Sheila, if I recall, I'm going by memory, he tells Walter Matheson to get out of the parking lot.
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Then the officer gets in front of him to prevent him from complying and then gives him a ticket for not complying.
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But in terms of the form letter, let's get back to that.
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Some form letter, because as you adroitly point out, it's full of typos and spelling errors and commas just hanging around.
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Yeah, she got even the address wrong, so I'm kind of shocked that it even got to us.
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But yeah, I mean, I'm not even clear if they're accusing me of defaming the officer involved,
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because it didn't say this is a notice of defamation or libel.
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Well, it just sort of stuffed in the middle that publishing this police officer's words defamed him.
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Well, if there's defamation happening, then he certainly defamed himself,
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because we didn't add or take away any of his words there.
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We took out a lot of dead airspace in the middle, but we didn't reduce what he had said.
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He's the one who swore at Walter Matheson, called him an a-hole,
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because all Walter really said that was even remotely confrontational,
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and you can hear the recording, Walter's not, is that he said this is still a free country.
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You know, that's what the cop took real offense to, which is crazy.
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And, you know, maybe I need Walter to remind this police officer again that it is indeed a free country,
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and you can't just confiscate journalistic materials because a cop doesn't like what he said in a recording
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that was given to a journalist. It's absolutely crazy.
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But Shelley, getting back to your first point, the letter itself is completely confusing.
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It is, are you suing us for defamation? Is this a letter of intent to sue unless we modify our behavior?
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What is this letter? I mean, I can't believe this was written up by a professional law firm in the first place.
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Apparently, it is a professional law firm. Apparently, the lawyer involved was a candidate for the,
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you guessed it, Liberal Party of New Brunswick. Failed candidate.
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Apparently, she got her clocked clean by the local conservative.
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So, I wonder if she knows a little something about us.
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However, she doesn't know all that much because had she watched the video that I initially did with Walter,
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she would have known that we have a high-powered legal team that involves Sam Goldstein,
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who's a bencher with the Law Society of Ontario.
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So, these are not pro bono lawyers that we're working with.
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I think it's our second largest expense here at Rebel News is legals.
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It's making sure we get things right, making sure we don't run afoul of defamation and libel laws.
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In the case of Fight the Fines, this is basically Canadian Civil Liberties Association work.
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They're just obsessed with getting criminals out of jail during this pandemic, and that seems to be it.
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So, had this lawyer actually watched the video she found to be so unacceptable, she would know.
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If we were defaming a cop at some point, surely one of the, I don't know, five, six lawyers we work with on a day-to-day basis
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But it isn't, it wasn't, and we're not backing down.
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And there was a clip later in the video, folks, and please watch Sheila's entire video, as well as the original report in Fight the Fines,
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where our commander, Ezra, phones the law firm, is put on hold, and then is told by the secretary,
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I mean, that the partner didn't even have the courage to come to the phone, right, Sheila, and say she won't be talking to you.
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So, as you point out in the video, what if Ezra was there to say, yeah, we surrender, we're going to comply, me a copa.
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They don't even listen to our side of the story.
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No, and that's why I think it was all designed to spook us.
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They were just expecting us to pull down the video and wipe any website copy from the website.
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So, when they got a phone call from Ezra, I'm sure that put the fear of God in that lawyer,
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because now she knew, well, now, welcome to Thunderdome, lady, because you're not going to bully us.
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Oh, and that was the smartest thing she did, not taking Ezra's call, because she would be made men's meat.
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I'm almost feeling sorry for this cop now, Sheila.
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I mean, when I remember the original video, he's so jovial at the beginning, and then he turns on a dime into, you know, it goes from Dr. Jack to Mr. Hyde.
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But the ultimate cherry on this fiasco Sunday, I think, is that which is known as the Barbra Streisand effect.
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In other words, if they hadn't sent this letter out, and you hadn't done that video, I mean, that video's only been up a couple of days.
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I think it might be more views than the original video.
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So, people, in other words, that didn't see the original Fight the Fines Walter Matheson case,
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thousands and thousands of people are now aware of this cop's wretched behavior in that Tim Hortons parking lot,
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Well, and that's the thing. I actually didn't, in that entire video, say the cop's name.
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Not even once. I haven't even said it right now, and I'm doing that on purpose.
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Walter didn't say his name. Sam Goldstein, our lawyer, didn't say his name.
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All we did was we put it on the name key when we were running the audio recording
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so that you could tell when Walter's talking versus when the cop is talking,
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and we knew the cop's name because his name is written on the ticket.
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And it's not a secret. It's a salient part of the story.
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It's part of the who, what, when, where, why of it all.
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So, I mean, there was no reason for us to exclude it.
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But I also didn't think it was, I generally don't have a problem with cops.
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I kind of feel bad for cops being forced to enforce all these horrible COVID-19 regulations.
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So I didn't have a problem with the cop, even though he was kind of poorly behaved.
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I had a problem with the law that gave an elderly man a ticket for eating a muffin.
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But now I do have a problem with this cop because he made it my problem
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because he went to a lawyer to try to confiscate my journalistic materials,
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Well, Sheila, when things get back to normal, whenever that might be,
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And listen, folks, if you live in Hampton, New Brunswick,
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I'm sure there's tons of wonderful people there.
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and one apparently incompetent lawyer in that town.
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And like I said, can't wait until that case goes into the courts in the months ahead.
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More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.
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A source had come to Rebel News from within Immigration Canada.
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We were told that the Trudeau government was creating online citizenship factories.
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Because of his insatiable desire to mass import new voters into this country,
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he couldn't let COVID get in the way of his plans,
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even if it meant opening up the process to fraud.
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we reached out to the department with questions,
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They told us to hold on while they prepared a response.
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They said they would get back to us soonest, whatever that means.
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Now, the reason why we're sharing this story with you now as soon as possible,
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but before they could explicitly confirm that this is happening,
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One, we are very confident in the veracity of our source.
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And B, because the federal government has a bad history of leaking stories like this
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Friendly outlets to Justin Trudeau, like the CBC.
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The government kept responding to my email saying that they needed more time.
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Virtual citizenship ceremonies coming for new Canadians whose dreams were crushed by COVID-19,
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They said that in a statement to CBC, the department, Immigration Refugee Citizenship Canada,
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will then work to implement virtual citizenship ceremonies for other cases as quickly as possible.
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So they told me to wait, to hold on to my story, while they farmed it out to the CBC.
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It's to give wannabe Canadians a sense of security, you see, according to the state broadcaster.
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The state broadcaster goes on to say that Vancouver-based immigration lawyer,
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Zul Suleiman, said that those who have gone through the hoops to become a Canadian
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There could be financial reasons, or purely political or social reasons.
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While the Wuhan virus global pandemic has put the brakes on so many things we used to take for granted,
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this is clearly not the case when it comes to our citizenship quotas.
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After all, there are so many potential future liberal voters that need to get processed.
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And that, my friends, is clearly job one in Ottawa these days.
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Welcome once again to Rebel Roundup, my friend.
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Well, it's always good to have you live and in person.
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And, Kian, as you pointed out, when it comes to officially announcing what you unofficially announced a month ago,
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the Liberals can't be bothered with a press conference for all journalists to attend.
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They have to selectively reach out to their trained SEALs, in this case those at the CBC.
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This is all about controlling the narrative, isn't it?
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The Liberals want to make sure that when a story with really bad optics is coming out,
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that a friendly voice is able to frame that conversation.
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But usually not to the extreme where they will actively lie to and mislead reporters so that their story is stopped.
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I mean, if a reporter is about to break a story and they come out with questions,
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they're not just going to mislead you so that you hold on to your story just a little bit longer.
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We're coming to you, Kian, with your answers to your questions.
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And then they push it out the back door to the CBC.
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But with Justin Trudeau, the CBC, and his government bureaucrats.
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Well, you know, Kian, the way I look at it, you don't buy a half-million-dollar Ferrari and leave it in the garage all year.
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And they're putting $1.5 billion into the CBC alone.
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I'm not including the newspaper bailout, the magazines, the McLean's fund, and on and on it goes.
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So, listen, you may as well make use of what you're paying for.
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But what kills me is the CBC not doing what might even resemble journalism.
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Now, maybe you agree with virtual citizenship hearings or not.
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But in a story like that, you should at least raise the question, what about fraud?
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You may remember back in 2015 when Canadians in November, or maybe it was September,
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were upset about a new Canadian, to use the Liberals' term, wearing a face covering during the citizenship ceremony.
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And it was one of the huge things that framed that federal election debate.
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And most Canadians thought that this, well, a lot of Canadians, I shouldn't say,
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because, of course, most Canadians elected Justin Trudeau.
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They thought that it opened up the door to fraud.
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And that was wearing a face veil in a room with a judge present with all of their peers there as well.
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And now anyone can walk into a citizenship ceremony with a face covering and pretend to be whoever they want,
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and say that really sacred oath, swearing allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen, her heirs and successors, and become Canadian.
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So they don't even have to be in Canada to do this.
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You're looking at somebody who went wearing a niqab to vote in the federal election.
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I mean, yes, I had to take out of my purse my identity.
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But that could have been anyone under that mask.
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And, you know, we should look at the bigger picture here, too, Kian, from a political viewpoint.
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And whether it's you don't really care who you're swearing in as citizens,
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or you're not concerned with, you know, irregular migrants, i.e. illegal aliens,
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just flooding into Canada under normal times, of course, at border crossings such as Rockson Road.
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This is really about, I think, changing the demographic base of Canada.
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It is about the Justin Trudeau liberals saying, yeah, come into Canada.
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Just all we ask in terms of quid pro quo is that every four years,
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Justin Trudeau is trying to – Justin Trudeau has done a lot of things throughout his time as prime minister.
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He's silenced the media, he's muzzled them, and he's paid them off so that only the media that is actively supporting him are able to report on stories.
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And two, he's changing the demographics and voter base of Canada so that he will remain in power for a generation.
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These people coming to Canada, and lots of people like Jason Kenney want to act like new immigrants are largely conservatives
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because, you know, they have small businesses and they work hard.
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The numbers don't back that up whatsoever, and it doesn't matter how many times Jason Kenney says that, that's not true.
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Most immigrants who come to Canada will vote liberal.
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Actually, most immigrants will vote for the government that brought them in.
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So while it might have been a little bit more true when Stephen Harper was in power
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and Jason Kenney was the one signing all the immigration certificates, it's not the case now.
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And Justin Trudeau is bringing in way more refugees and immigrants than ever, ever before.
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Now, I want to also talk about something that I didn't quite cover in the video.
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It's not just that it opens it up to fraud in so far as who the person is.
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I mean, at the end of the day, it's tough to spoof who you are forever.
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The problem is that these new immigrants, when they're coming to Canada,
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they have to be in Canada for a long time to show that they actually want to be in this country.
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Major problem is that these folks can leave Canada.
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They can leave the country, and the Canadian government doesn't really keep the best records on who leaves the country.
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They only keep records of who comes into the country.
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So someone from Beijing, for example, could get out of the country, could say,
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okay, officially, I'm here on January 1st, and then they get on a boat.
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They leave, be it to the United States or elsewhere, and then they Skype into this video conference
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because, of course, we know people want this citizenship, but they don't want to live here.
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This is where they come for a get-out-of-jail-free card for their children,
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for health care for their children, education for their children.
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They want to continue working in Beijing, and this gives them the perfect route to do that.
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The literally smallest amount they need to do to become Canadian, they will do it.
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I think there should be more to being a citizen than just having a convenient country as a safe haven for your wealth
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in case things go sour in the country that you're currently living in.
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What really bothered me was that going back a month ago when you broke this,
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I think you reached out to the proper bureaucrats or spokesthingies in Ottawa,
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and they said they were going to look into it and get back to you.
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I had to follow up with several emails, and they just said,
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And this isn't just this case that this has happened.
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Actually, just before I walked into this room to do this story,
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I got word that Global News had published a story that I was looking into in February,
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I reached out to the RCMP and asked them about a helicopter crash that happened up in the Wet's Wet'n area.
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They flew a drone into their own helicopter, and the helicopter went down.
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So there was this huge story that I was given this tip on, and I reached out to the RCMP.
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They said, Kian, just hold on, just wait a second.
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That's literally what they said, and I'll get back to you.
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And it sort of fell off my plate, and I didn't push as hard as I could have.
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But at the end of the day, they ended up pushing it out to Global News.
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And remember back in October 2015, do you remember Justin Trudeau saying
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this was going to be the most transparent government in Canadian history?
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Well, yeah, it's about as transparent as a block of black marble.
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Keep it here. More of Rebel Roundup to come right after this.
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Hi, ma'am. What brings you out to this protest?
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Did you hear me? I'm sorry. What brings you out to this protest?
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I'm not going to give your trashy rag a talking piece. Fuck off.
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You can message the event page on one of the organizers.
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Why would you want to talk online? We're right here.
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I don't want you near me, and I don't like your organization.
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Why do you use fascist tactics and claim to be Antifa?
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Why are your comrades in the U.S. burning down black mom-pah...
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You're standing in solidarity with your U.S.A. comrades.
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We're in solidarity with people being arrested right now in the States.
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How does burning down mom-pah black businesses...
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I'm asking a question. I'm not making an opinion.
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How do American anti-fascist members burning down mom-pah black businesses...
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What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
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You keep asking me a question as if I'm related to them.
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I have an opinion that fascists like you are the enemy.
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No, I'm just a journalist covering this, actually.
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My grandfather spent five and a half years fighting the Nazis in the Second World War.
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Both of my sides of the family escaped the Nazis.
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They never can quite articulate their opinions.
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And I was just trying to have a civil discussion with that purple-headed woman and it went nowhere.
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Let's just call those Toronto protesters outside the U.S. consulate Antifa-lite.
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Because really, when you organize a protest, yet you are utterly unable to articulate what it is that you're protesting,
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well, that is the hallmark of a lightweight, to be sure, isn't it?
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In any event, here's what some of you had to say about those dazed and confused anti-fascism protesters.
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Oh, I feel your pain, Jason, but thanks to our hysterical overreaction to the Wuhan virus pandemic,
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I truly think we are living in a period of peak craziness.
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I can never remember the world as barking mad as it is now.
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Indeed, DBDB, this was supposed to have been a piss-and-vinegar Antifa protester
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and the organizer gets triggered when I ask Z-zer to respond to some basic questions.
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Thanks kindly, Radix, and it's based on simple observation.
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Antifa dines out on the tactics of fascism, especially violence.
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Menzies, I love your responses to the idiots that can't answer your questions.
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In all honesty, Oddinger, they really do make it easy for me.
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Ricky Balboa, you kind of remind me of those Antifa light members
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that were so unable to articulate their positions.
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Indeed, what makes that particular video fake news?
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I just wandered into a protest and started asking demonstrators questions as to why they were there.
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Look, you might be embarrassed by the performance of your fellow comrades,
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but that ain't the definition of fake news, my friend.
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Well, that wraps up another edition of Rebel Roundup.