Rebel News Podcast - July 30, 2020


Reporting, commentary, activism？ Letters to the Editor


Episode Stats

Length

35 minutes

Words per Minute

169.95605

Word Count

6,071

Sentence Count

495

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

Why are we involved in so many legal battles at Rebel News? Why do we have to fight them? Why should others go to jail when you're the biggest carbon consumer in the world and you won't give them an answer?


Transcript

00:00:00.520 Hello, my Rebels. Today, well, I spend a monologue answering a question I got from a viewer.
00:00:07.520 Why are we spending so much time fighting legal battles?
00:00:11.900 Well, it's a good question. I'll do my best to answer it.
00:00:14.960 Hey, by the way, before I do, can I invite you to become a premium subscriber of Rebel News?
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00:00:39.040 All right, here's the podcast.
00:00:44.740 You're listening to a Rebel News podcast.
00:00:47.060 Tonight, why are we involved in so many lawsuits at Rebel News?
00:00:59.740 It's July 29th, and this is the Ezra LeVance Show.
00:01:04.780 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:08.260 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:12.600 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:23.580 Yesterday was such a busy day, I was hunkered down with two different law firms, one of them in Alberta.
00:01:30.280 We were fighting to get access to the Alberta Legislative Press Gallery.
00:01:36.360 That is, the right to go into the legislature building, ask questions of the premier and of the opposition parties there.
00:01:43.520 The premier in Alberta, Jason Kenney, has taken questions from Rebel News reporters before,
00:01:48.060 and he's quite open to it, unlike Rachel Notley when she was the NDP premier, banning Sheila Gunn-Reed, sending the sheriff.
00:01:54.580 So the problem was not that Jason Kenney or the UCP, United Conservative Party government, was banning us.
00:02:01.460 The problem was that rival journalists who run the Parliamentary Press Gallery, well, they banned us.
00:02:08.880 So we had a two-pronged approach.
00:02:11.260 Our Alberta lawyers was dealing with the government, with the Speaker of the House, with the Minister of Infrastructure, trying to get in.
00:02:18.780 And our Toronto lawyers filed what I thought was a very creative legal threat, I suppose you could say,
00:02:25.360 against the news media company that was involved in censoring us.
00:02:29.580 Tyler Dawson, the post-media journalist who runs the Alberta Legislative Press Gallery.
00:02:35.940 Well, we reminded him in a sharp letter to him and his law firm that they're violating the Competition Act,
00:02:42.520 which is of concern to any cartel.
00:02:44.580 But it should be doubly concerning to post-media, which made explicit promises to the Competition Bureau
00:02:50.920 when they bought out their competitors five years ago, that they would not engage in anti-competitive practices.
00:02:58.100 So that's what took up so much of my day yesterday, and it was the subject for our show last night.
00:03:05.680 And we did a video today, and emails.
00:03:08.680 It really consumed, I mean, dealing with two different law firms, checking the letters, da-da-da.
00:03:13.220 Well, the day went by in a flash.
00:03:15.540 I think we got a good show out of it, but I want to read you a letter I received.
00:03:20.220 And it made me think.
00:03:21.300 Here's a letter.
00:03:22.660 It was from Steve.
00:03:24.600 And Steve said,
00:03:25.560 Ezra, what's up with your content lately?
00:03:28.760 Your network appears more interested in legal battles and fighting fines than reporting on the news.
00:03:35.080 The biggest story in the country is we, and there is barely a peep from your network.
00:03:39.640 Yet last week you devoted two shows to your activism and bragging about legal battles.
00:03:45.640 Stick to what you're good at.
00:03:47.120 Reporting news and calling out the liberals' corruption and hypocrisy.
00:03:51.060 Thanks.
00:03:51.960 Steve, a loyal subscriber from the beginning.
00:03:54.760 Well, I know that Steve is a loyal subscriber.
00:03:58.660 Anyone who is a subscriber and pays eight bucks a month is a friend of mine.
00:04:02.860 Because you keep us going, and you don't have to because there's so much free stuff out there.
00:04:07.120 For you to pay eight dollars a month, I know you're a supporter.
00:04:09.120 I know that.
00:04:10.160 And those are real questions, too.
00:04:12.620 Here's the letter that I wrote back directly to Steve, and then I'd like to amplify that a little bit.
00:04:17.800 And the reason I'm doing this today is we're going to have a slightly shorter show today because the Independent Press Gallery, created by Candace Malcolm, is hosting a debate tonight for the Conservative Party Leadership Campaign.
00:04:32.560 So we're going to send our team down there, and I'm going to be here.
00:04:35.100 We're going to have a show starting at 6.30 p.m. Eastern, so it's before this actually goes to air.
00:04:40.600 And we'll be on from 7 till 9 Eastern.
00:04:42.920 You'll be able to watch it on YouTube.
00:04:44.100 So we've got a lot of cooking today, and we'll put that all up on the website, too.
00:04:47.980 But anyways, here's what I wrote back to Steve last night.
00:04:51.240 I said, hi, Steve.
00:04:52.600 I did my guest segment on WE today on the show.
00:04:57.280 So we didn't.
00:04:58.440 I mean, Keem was on.
00:04:59.240 We talked about it.
00:05:00.280 We played some videos from the parliamentary testimony.
00:05:03.760 And we aren't just covering WE.
00:05:05.440 We're filing legal complaints against them at auditWE.com.
00:05:10.580 If you look through our site, we've probably done 10 WE stories.
00:05:13.200 Our people like activism, too.
00:05:14.700 Tonight's main show, I wrote, isn't a bragging thing.
00:05:18.680 It's a defensive thing.
00:05:20.240 We were banned from the press gallery.
00:05:22.360 We didn't choose that.
00:05:23.760 It was done to us.
00:05:25.420 Fighting back is what we do when attacked.
00:05:28.420 I appreciate your support, but you know we have a mix.
00:05:31.140 One-third reporting, one-third commentary, and one-third activism, more or less.
00:05:35.680 Ezra.
00:05:36.020 P.S., we just hired a new reporter in Vancouver, and we have a prospective new reporter from Ontario
00:05:42.780 trying out with us this week, too.
00:05:45.080 We'll have so much news, you won't have time to do anything else.
00:05:47.760 Cheers.
00:05:48.500 And I think that's true.
00:05:49.720 I've got to be candid.
00:05:51.220 You know, I'm a busy guy.
00:05:53.580 Don't tell anyone, but sometimes I don't have a chance to watch every single video we put up.
00:05:57.320 Because we've got so much stuff.
00:05:59.060 Sometimes we do 10 videos in one day.
00:06:01.920 Who's got the time?
00:06:03.000 But I take Steve's point.
00:06:06.420 What are we here?
00:06:07.720 Are we just about legal fights?
00:06:09.980 Well, I actually had our civil liberties lawyer put together a list of all the legal stuff we have on the go.
00:06:17.440 And I'm not even including internal contracts or what we call pre-publication defamation review.
00:06:24.680 That's what we're about to do, a spicy story.
00:06:26.540 So we have lawyers go through it to fact check to make work.
00:06:28.920 I'm not even talking about that.
00:06:29.980 These are civil liberties type cases we're doing.
00:06:32.880 I want to go through this list fairly quickly.
00:06:34.620 It's a big list.
00:06:36.260 And then I want to explain why we do this.
00:06:38.720 Because I get it.
00:06:39.720 It's probably tiring hearing about all the lawyering.
00:06:42.200 And it's certainly tiring hearing me say, please help, please help, please help.
00:06:46.380 That's the only way we're going to pay for these lawyers.
00:06:49.720 But let me go through it and explain one at a time why we're doing what we're doing.
00:06:53.320 I think I can whip through this in 10 minutes.
00:06:55.080 So I have 13 items on here.
00:06:59.980 The first is the Leaders' Debate Commission.
00:07:03.100 Remember when Justin Trudeau banned Kian Bexte and David Menzies from covering the Leaders' Debate last year, last October?
00:07:08.560 We ran to court for an emergency injunction and we got it.
00:07:12.380 But that wasn't the only thing we went to court for.
00:07:14.520 That was just a quick band-aid.
00:07:16.420 We asked for a full judicial review of them banning us.
00:07:19.580 Not only do we want a permanent fix, we want to know what went on.
00:07:22.600 We didn't have the time to do that in a very short emergency hearing.
00:07:26.920 That battle is still raging.
00:07:29.120 We're still in court with the Trudeau Commission.
00:07:32.620 By the way, Craig Kielberger's on it.
00:07:35.240 And we're still spending money on it because we want to smoke out what really happened and change that Debates Commission forever.
00:07:41.740 They're still in effect and they're still going to send to the next election debate.
00:07:45.200 Number two, an investigation by Canada's election commissioner of the Libranos.
00:07:52.500 Remember that?
00:07:53.300 Remember I had so much fun when those two former RCMP officers grilled me for an hour about my book and then I recorded them.
00:08:02.120 I knew no one else.
00:08:03.260 That's still going on.
00:08:04.680 I don't know if you know that.
00:08:06.000 Their investigation of my book, the Libranos.
00:08:07.920 I mean, I had fun bantering with them and we sent them that silly top secret business plan to make a mockery of them.
00:08:14.800 Yeah, I'm laughing, but they're not laughing.
00:08:17.220 That legal investigation is continuing.
00:08:19.860 We still have that.
00:08:20.980 So, so far you'll notice a theme here.
00:08:23.340 Trudeau's trying to censor us.
00:08:24.680 We're fighting back.
00:08:25.700 I did not choose either of those fights.
00:08:28.680 Number three, you're not even going to believe this.
00:08:31.320 Judicial Review and Constitutional Challenge of Alberta's Election Advertising Laws.
00:08:38.160 I don't know if you remember, but we had billboards in Alberta.
00:08:42.000 Kian Bexley put up a billboard to fire Dave Egan, the horrible education minister.
00:08:46.540 It just said fire Egan.
00:08:47.680 That's all it said.
00:08:48.980 The Alberta government started to investigate Kian.
00:08:52.700 That is still ongoing, even though Jason Kenney is the new premier and the NDP has been thrown out.
00:08:59.940 Did you know that?
00:09:01.160 I mean, I haven't talked to you about it, so maybe you don't know it.
00:09:03.720 Again, did I choose that?
00:09:04.800 Well, maybe I was getting a little rough with the billboards, but I didn't choose that legal fight.
00:09:10.040 Number four, Trudeau's daily pandemic briefings.
00:09:13.260 Remember they kicked us out and they actually grabbed Kian by the arm and forced him out of there?
00:09:18.260 We're suing over that.
00:09:19.820 That's still ongoing.
00:09:20.740 I know I haven't talked to you about that in a couple months, but this doesn't mean it's not going on.
00:09:25.380 Okay, fight the fines.
00:09:26.780 We just had our 11th case, Tamara Ugolini, who was arrested and actually put in a jail cell for 90 minutes for daring to walk on an empty beach.
00:09:37.800 Yet we've got 11 cases under fight the fines.
00:09:40.360 Look, I felt that was important.
00:09:42.420 Now, that's something we chose to do.
00:09:44.000 It wasn't something done to us that we were being defensive.
00:09:46.720 And we've had 11 of those cases.
00:09:48.640 And frankly, it's one of the things I'm very proud of this year.
00:09:52.320 We filled the void left by the Canadian Civil Liberties Association.
00:09:55.740 I don't even see anyone else fighting back.
00:09:57.880 So we are absolutely doing that.
00:10:00.520 And I accept that that is a voluntary choice.
00:10:03.020 But don't you think it's...
00:10:03.920 We had our first victory.
00:10:05.520 That pastor in Calgary, Arthur Pavlovsky, who was fined over a thousand bucks for feeding the homeless.
00:10:10.560 The crown dropped the charges because we lawyered up.
00:10:13.180 So I'm not going to be defensive about that one.
00:10:16.660 Number six, freeing the two Michaels, Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor.
00:10:20.880 Okay, again, that's something we chose to do.
00:10:23.360 I confess it.
00:10:24.420 But it was just staring at me.
00:10:26.200 Why isn't anyone doing anything?
00:10:28.220 And what levers do we have as private citizens?
00:10:31.200 Well, Professor David Matus, one of the best respected human rights lawyers in Canada,
00:10:36.080 he said, well, let's file this complaint.
00:10:37.980 I'm proud of doing that.
00:10:39.180 And it cost us low five figures.
00:10:41.740 We still have to go to Geneva.
00:10:44.040 When the flight restrictions are done, we'll go on the cheap.
00:10:47.400 But I think that's important to do.
00:10:49.240 I don't know.
00:10:49.760 I mean, so far, I've read to you six different things.
00:10:53.640 Four of them were defensive and two were our choice.
00:10:56.660 I don't know.
00:10:57.760 Number seven.
00:10:58.800 Well, this really flared up yesterday.
00:11:01.300 Fight for media accreditation with the federal and Alberta press galleries.
00:11:07.100 We lost a round yesterday when Alberta vetoed us.
00:11:09.900 But we're not taking that loss in stride.
00:11:12.500 We're fighting back hard.
00:11:13.640 Number eight.
00:11:16.300 Dispute with Amazon over their banning my book.
00:11:19.820 Again, like the press gallery stuff.
00:11:21.400 I'm not looking to be censored.
00:11:22.680 I'm not looking to be banned.
00:11:24.240 It's the censorious attitude out there.
00:11:26.360 And still, we're quarreling with Amazon.
00:11:28.360 We're back on Amazon for now.
00:11:30.480 But how long will that last?
00:11:31.520 I don't know.
00:11:33.200 Defense of rebel journalists.
00:11:34.640 We still have a David Menzies lawsuit against the York Regional Police who assaulted him
00:11:41.220 to protect Ron McClain, the Judas who knifed Coach Don Cherry in the back.
00:11:49.380 Ron McClain was out at an event.
00:11:50.920 He had a bunch of cops around him.
00:11:52.320 David asked a question.
00:11:53.200 The cops threw David down.
00:11:54.420 We're suing them.
00:11:55.100 We stand up for our reporters.
00:11:57.100 Police complaints regarding assaults by protesters.
00:11:59.900 You might recall that David Menzies went to Kingston, was assaulted by Antifa.
00:12:04.280 We're working with police to make sure charges are pressed.
00:12:06.880 And we've had some success there.
00:12:08.240 Lawsuits against Jonathan Yaniv for attacking both David and Keehan.
00:12:14.000 That's ongoing.
00:12:15.820 We finished up our legal defense for Anna Slats, who was thrown in jail in property by
00:12:20.120 New York City police.
00:12:23.460 And so all of those I'm calling number...
00:12:26.000 So there's four of those items under point nine, defense of rebel journalists.
00:12:29.760 That's one, two, three, four.
00:12:31.400 I can see he's leaving one out, of course.
00:12:33.560 We have a lawsuit against the holiday in Toronto East for attacking David Menzies.
00:12:39.200 I've got a lot of law here.
00:12:40.740 So far, I think only two of these are elective.
00:12:43.760 Dispute with Facebook over false labeling.
00:12:46.440 Facebook is labeling some of our stories false, putting warnings on them, giving us advertising
00:12:51.060 strikes.
00:12:51.800 We're legally fighting with them over that, too.
00:12:54.900 Number...
00:12:55.180 I'm almost done.
00:12:55.900 But that's a lot of law, isn't it?
00:12:57.340 Number 11, stop deplatforming.
00:12:59.260 Remember when I had my Libranos book launch scheduled for Alberta?
00:13:02.560 I was going to have one in Calgary at the Plaza Theatre and one in Edmonton at the Princess
00:13:08.480 Theatre, both owned by the same guy, a good guy named Mike Brar, who I've done business
00:13:12.520 with before.
00:13:13.400 We've done movie launches there before, sold out houses, everything great.
00:13:17.180 Well, this time he was bullied by leftist protesters into ripping up the contract.
00:13:22.280 So we're fighting back by suing the deplatformers under a tort called inducement of breach of
00:13:28.420 contract.
00:13:28.920 That fight is still ongoing.
00:13:30.340 Number 12, providing information for Canadians about what exemptions there are to the mask
00:13:36.580 laws.
00:13:36.960 And we'll have an update on that later this week at maskexemption.ca.
00:13:40.260 And finally, as I mentioned earlier in the show, we have filed formal legal complaints
00:13:49.600 to the Canada Revenue Agency's audit department over WE Charity.
00:13:53.920 No one else has done that.
00:13:55.240 We have a few more to go in that vein.
00:13:57.460 But look, as I say, it's one thing to report the news.
00:14:00.040 We do that.
00:14:01.100 It's another to comment on the news.
00:14:02.680 We do that.
00:14:03.240 But sometimes, don't you want to change the news?
00:14:06.660 I get it, Steve.
00:14:08.360 We talk about lawsuits all the time.
00:14:10.860 And most of the time, it's defensive.
00:14:13.200 Out of all of these cases, and I think all together with the sub cases and the different
00:14:18.480 examples, there's almost 20 here.
00:14:20.760 That's not even including the 11 different fight to fight.
00:14:23.400 There's 25 cases here.
00:14:24.960 Almost all of them are us defending our rights to be journalists.
00:14:31.700 I have to say that if we were in a time 10 years ago or 20 years ago, most of these cases
00:14:39.320 wouldn't exist.
00:14:41.040 The idea of keeping out journalists from a press gallery, keeping out journalists from
00:14:45.460 a press scrum for Trudeau or the leadership debates, or fighting with Amazon for book banning,
00:14:50.720 this would have been unthinkable before the current age of radical deplatforming.
00:14:55.860 So I know I talk to you a lot about lawsuits, and I'm sorry I do.
00:14:59.460 I like to fight, so I guess I'm not that sorry.
00:15:02.080 I just don't want to be pushed around.
00:15:04.280 And I know this, that every single one of these fights, yeah, either my name's on it or
00:15:10.240 one of our reporter's name's on it or it was us being victimized.
00:15:13.500 But I know this, that every win we have is a precedent that will benefit everyone else.
00:15:21.620 As I said last night, when we are suing Post Media to knock down their decision to block
00:15:28.400 us from the Alberta Press Gallery, in our own way, we're doing that for Post Media's
00:15:33.860 benefit too.
00:15:35.100 Because when we fight for freedom of the press for ourselves, we're fighting for everyone.
00:15:39.860 And when we're fighting the fines for those 11 cases in the pandemic, we're fighting for
00:15:45.380 everyone's civil liberties.
00:15:47.280 I think this is part of the rebel.
00:15:48.840 It's sort of who we are.
00:15:50.440 It was even what we did when I was back at Sun News Network.
00:15:53.560 We got our start in, I don't know if you remember, in Nanaimo, where a local town council banned
00:15:59.400 a Christian group from having a little conference in a public meeting room.
00:16:03.260 We hired a lawyer, we went to bat.
00:16:05.220 It's sort of what we do here at the rebel.
00:16:06.780 So maybe what I'm hearing from Steve is that our balance is off a little bit.
00:16:10.420 We got to do a bit more reporting and a bit more commentary and a bit less activism.
00:16:15.620 Well, these things come in waves.
00:16:17.260 And like I say, we're hiring more reporters.
00:16:19.100 So you'll get so much, you won't know what to do with it.
00:16:22.340 But that's my attempt at a defense, or at least an explanation for why we fight.
00:16:27.560 We fight because we have to.
00:16:31.080 We fight because freedom of speech is under attack and we're in the speech business.
00:16:35.060 And at the end of the day, I think we're fighting for you.
00:16:41.080 Stay with us.
00:16:41.940 Speaking of censorship, you won't believe this next story.
00:16:44.560 So we're here because we feel as though the American people have not heard from all the
00:17:04.060 expertise that's out there all across our country.
00:17:07.000 We do have some experts speaking, but there's lots and lots of experts across the country.
00:17:12.760 So some of us decided to get together.
00:17:14.880 We're America's frontline doctors.
00:17:16.880 We're here only to help American patients and the American nation heal.
00:17:22.620 We have a lot of information to share.
00:17:25.280 Americans are riveted and captured by fear at the moment.
00:17:28.280 We are not held down by the virus as much as we're being held down by the spider web of fear.
00:17:35.660 That spider web is all around us and it's constricting us and it's draining the lifeblood
00:17:40.560 of the American people, American society and American economy.
00:17:43.940 This is not this does not make sense.
00:17:47.040 Well, that is a short excerpt from a fascinating press conference held by real doctors.
00:17:53.460 Often when you see someone wearing a white lab coat like that, it's just for show.
00:17:58.000 These are real doctors talking about a problem.
00:18:01.360 You can hear that is obviously a problem here in Canada, too, in the United Kingdom and many
00:18:06.040 countries in the West.
00:18:08.000 And one of the things they talked about was hydroxychloroquine, which has been a safe drug
00:18:15.320 for use for more than 50 years, generally to combat malaria.
00:18:19.760 And it has been prescribed around the world.
00:18:22.260 In fact, we've shown you before, surveys show that doctors throughout the world prescribe
00:18:27.060 hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, often in combination to combat COVID-19.
00:18:33.960 And it is the number one recommended therapy by frontline doctors, not just in America, but
00:18:40.060 in Europe, and even in China, if you can trust surveys of Chinese doctors.
00:18:46.400 Well, this video was so interesting.
00:18:48.380 It was so contrary to the official narrative that at one moment yesterday, it was the most
00:18:55.120 watched video on the entire Facebook platform.
00:19:00.400 Two billion people in the world have Facebook.
00:19:03.360 And this, in just a short number of hours, racked up 17 million views.
00:19:09.280 It was extremely popular.
00:19:11.100 Donald Trump Jr. retweeted the video and said, hey, take a look at this.
00:19:16.600 But very soon, strange things started to happen.
00:19:18.880 The video was deleted from almost everywhere.
00:19:22.320 Donald Trump's tweet was not only deleted, his entire account was suspended.
00:19:26.860 And Facebook not only deleted the video, but put up contrary information.
00:19:33.000 Here's a tweet.
00:19:34.840 Andy Stone of Facebook said he's not only taking it down, but Facebook was, quote,
00:19:40.800 showing messages in news feed to people who have reacted to, commented on, or shared
00:19:45.920 harmful COVID-19 related misinformation that we have removed.
00:19:51.100 So Facebook was engaging in some remedial therapy of their own, political therapy,
00:19:57.760 for anyone who had dared to watch this video.
00:20:00.680 It's a shocking case of censorship.
00:20:04.140 And it's no surprise that our friend Alam Bokhari was the lead reporter covering the censorship.
00:20:10.360 He joins us now via Skype from Breitbart's Washington studios.
00:20:13.100 First of all, great to see you, Alam.
00:20:15.100 And I should note that this number one world record viewed video was actually posted by you
00:20:21.700 guys at Breitbart.com.
00:20:22.760 Absolutely.
00:20:24.760 It got more than 17 million views on the platform before it was taken down.
00:20:29.800 At one point, we had, I think, over 185,000 concurrent viewers.
00:20:34.360 That was, you know, a record number for us.
00:20:37.900 It's a huge, huge number of people who were clearly interested.
00:20:42.260 You know, one thing I'll point out, you know, we weren't offering any commentary on the event.
00:20:45.660 We were just covering it as a news organization, but Facebook seems to decide what news stories
00:20:52.240 are allowed and what ones aren't these days.
00:20:55.660 Yeah, that's very crazy.
00:20:57.300 I'm curious about all points of view.
00:21:00.160 I watch points of view that I don't agree with.
00:21:02.480 I'd even do it on purpose.
00:21:04.060 I want to know what the other side thinks.
00:21:06.100 One of our mottos here at Rebel News is telling the other side of the story.
00:21:09.620 So I'm interested in both sides of the story.
00:21:11.900 When I see a bunch of doctors standing on Capitol Hill saying, hey, can we give you a
00:21:16.440 second opinion?
00:21:17.080 Well, I sort of like that about doctors having a second opinion.
00:21:20.060 That is a doctor thing to do.
00:21:21.980 These weren't quacks.
00:21:23.460 These weren't people, you know, pawning off potions or salves.
00:21:28.420 These were board-certified physicians with a different point of view.
00:21:31.640 That's all.
00:21:32.140 Am I right?
00:21:34.300 Absolutely.
00:21:34.920 And, you know, I'm not a medical expert.
00:21:36.960 To be honest, I haven't followed the debate over this drug very closely.
00:21:41.520 But if I wanted to get interested in the topic and do my research, I'd want to hear from
00:21:46.400 as many perspectives and viewpoints as possible.
00:21:49.660 You know, scientists don't agree.
00:21:51.920 You know, as Tucker Carlson said yesterday, that's why it's science.
00:21:54.820 It involves the consensus evolves over time.
00:21:57.120 Scientists disagree with each other.
00:21:58.620 They acquire new evidence.
00:22:01.060 And the consensus changes.
00:22:02.940 You know, at the start of this crisis, I believe the consensus was that masks don't work.
00:22:06.520 Now they're mandatory in most places.
00:22:09.500 Opinions change.
00:22:11.520 So the idea that Facebook has decided it's going to be the arbiter of truth on this very
00:22:17.540 rapidly evolving pandemic, a very new pandemic.
00:22:21.840 It's only been around for less than half a year.
00:22:25.460 But Facebook has decided it knows the absolute truth and it's going to shut down actual front
00:22:30.540 line doctors and shut down just the press conference, not even an endorsement of their views, just
00:22:37.260 coverage of their views.
00:22:38.900 Yeah, that's crazy.
00:22:39.940 I should note, because I think it's relevant, that this press conference featured an elected
00:22:45.820 congressman, Representative Ralph Norman, a Republican from South Carolina.
00:22:49.880 Now, again, he could be a Democrat, he could be a Republican, he could be a mayor.
00:22:54.160 I don't care.
00:22:55.080 But he's an elected official who was having a political moment.
00:22:59.100 The fact that Facebook would think nothing of deleting, like, don't promote it, fine.
00:23:04.200 But to literally delete something that is an official statement from an elected congressman
00:23:10.820 because they don't think it's right, this is very dangerous.
00:23:16.020 This is, and I'm not going to call it a precedent because it's not new.
00:23:19.340 It's just the most dramatic example I've ever heard of it.
00:23:25.020 It's certainly hard to be shocked by these things at this point because Facebook and these
00:23:29.300 other tech platforms have decided for a long time now that they have the ability to censor
00:23:34.800 politicians and decide whose politicians' messages get out and whose don't.
00:23:40.820 Essentially making them the arbiters of democracy.
00:23:43.380 They have entire departments all coincidentally set up after the 2016 election, entire departments
00:23:49.220 dedicated to so-called election integrity.
00:23:51.940 They see themselves as the overseers of democracy, the guarantees of free and fair elections.
00:23:59.100 Obviously, it's the very progressive far-left view of free and fair elections in which only
00:24:02.680 one side gets to speak.
00:24:05.120 And this is the new reality we're living in.
00:24:06.760 These big tech companies have become, I think, the biggest threat to free and fair elections
00:24:14.760 in America and indeed around the world.
00:24:17.140 And it needs to be a number one issue for American citizens who want to keep their political rights
00:24:24.380 and keep their democracy free and fair.
00:24:26.740 You know, the creepiest part of this, I mean, it's outrageous that this video was deleted.
00:24:31.620 I think the creepiest part is that Facebook is coming right out and saying that that's a Facebook
00:24:35.920 executive, Andy Stone, am I right, who said not only are they removing it, but they are force
00:24:43.060 feeding anyone who interacted with it their own political point of view.
00:24:48.540 So that's the tracking that's terrifying.
00:24:51.460 They know what you're watching.
00:24:53.580 If you're watching something they don't agree with, they will correct you.
00:24:59.340 It's like Clockwork Orange, where that character had his eyes held open and he was forced to
00:25:05.480 watch reels of movies he didn't want to see.
00:25:08.780 They are not even hiding it anymore, are they, Alan?
00:25:11.600 Not at all.
00:25:14.400 And, you know, I often think that the definition of being center-right or right-wing today is
00:25:19.860 simply noticing things you're not supposed to, noticing things they don't want you to
00:25:23.920 notice.
00:25:24.960 And this seems to be the entire mission of the left at the moment to control what we're
00:25:28.620 allowed to see, what information we can access.
00:25:32.200 And these tech giants that have accumulated, I think, unprecedented power, unprecedented control
00:25:40.880 over global information flows, more control than, I think, any other entity in history.
00:25:47.020 That's why they're so important for the left, why the left constantly pressures them to
00:25:51.120 censor more and more information, because it's their way of stopping us from noticing things
00:25:56.640 that we're not supposed to.
00:25:57.860 Yeah, it's terrifying.
00:25:59.480 I mean, there's so many.
00:26:00.320 The idea that they would simply suspend the Twitter account of Donald Trump Jr. and get away
00:26:05.900 with it, well, why don't they suspend the account of Donald Trump himself?
00:26:09.060 I mean, really, why not?
00:26:11.080 And they're already deleting the president's tweets that this is just a new normal for
00:26:15.140 them.
00:26:15.700 Yeah.
00:26:16.000 And I know I was shocked.
00:26:17.880 I was shocked when it first happened.
00:26:19.400 But then it happens again and again and again.
00:26:21.660 It becomes almost a daily occurrence.
00:26:23.320 It's how they grant, they do it once and then you're accustomed to it and they do it again
00:26:28.620 and again and again.
00:26:29.920 Yeah.
00:26:30.500 And of course, never to Democratic politicians.
00:26:33.000 That's a great point.
00:26:33.780 I mean, I myself have had my own book called China Virus censored not once but twice by
00:26:42.340 Amazon.
00:26:42.880 And I don't even purport to offer any medical remedies.
00:26:46.080 I don't I'm not giving medical advice in the book.
00:26:48.640 What's crazy is they've never actually responded to my lawyer's letters, Alan, when I say, what
00:26:55.320 did we do wrong?
00:26:56.420 Because obviously it wasn't a mistake if they did it twice and gave the same excuse twice
00:27:00.340 that we contradicted, quote, official sources.
00:27:02.840 They never told me what official.
00:27:04.320 Was it a World Health Organization official?
00:27:06.920 Was it a Chinese government official?
00:27:09.500 A Trudeau government official?
00:27:10.960 They would never say because really, who's ever going to hold them accountable?
00:27:14.900 I've never seen any group at all hold them accountable.
00:27:19.300 I've never seen the ACLU in the States or a Canadian version.
00:27:22.800 I've never seen any legislator hold them accountable other than maybe just by writing an essay
00:27:28.620 about it.
00:27:29.120 Like I have actually never seen anyone ever hold big tech to account.
00:27:33.160 The possible exception would be in a small scale.
00:27:37.420 The lawyer Harmeet Dillon from San Francisco has actually helped us out from time to time.
00:27:42.540 She has occasional lawsuits against tech companies, but that's such a small scale.
00:27:46.960 There's no systemic reaction to the tightening control of Silicon Valley.
00:27:54.160 Is there like is there any civil liberties movement or any legislature fighting back that
00:27:57.740 you know of, Alan?
00:27:58.540 Well, as you say, Harmeet Dillon has done groundbreaking legal work against these tech companies, and
00:28:05.320 she now has a nonprofit called the Liberty Center that's doing more First Amendment and
00:28:10.620 civil rights cases, the ones that get ignored by, as you say, the mainstream organizations
00:28:14.860 like the ACLU.
00:28:16.640 So that's positive.
00:28:18.280 The real problem, I think, is Republicans, Republican politicians and Republican donors.
00:28:22.020 They don't seem very interested in this issue.
00:28:24.380 And in fact, many Republican politicians still take money from Google and from these tech
00:28:28.080 giants.
00:28:29.600 I think Republican voters need to make their voice heard.
00:28:32.980 Taking money from big tech companies.
00:28:35.520 For a Republican politician, that needs to be seen as unacceptable as taking money from
00:28:40.560 Planned Parenthood.
00:28:42.240 Or on the left, you know, the left doesn't tolerate it when their employees take money from oil companies.
00:28:47.980 That's how it has to be with tech companies on the right, I think.
00:28:52.020 That's a great point.
00:28:52.740 There's just so much cash.
00:28:54.160 I mean, Google, Facebook, these giants are by far the biggest spenders on lobbying in
00:28:58.300 Washington, D.C., and it pays off.
00:29:00.360 I want to mention that you've got a book.
00:29:02.020 We've talked about this last time we had it on the show.
00:29:04.140 You've got a book coming up, and it's just perfectly titled Deleted Big Tech's Battle
00:29:11.480 to Erase the Trump Movement and Steal the Election.
00:29:15.220 Now, that book's coming out in just a few weeks in September, and thank God, because
00:29:19.520 oh my God, that's exactly what's happening here.
00:29:21.820 I want to read that title because it's just so perfect.
00:29:23.920 Deleted Big Tech's Battle to Erase the Trump Movement and Steal the Election.
00:29:29.180 Surely Trump knows this.
00:29:30.860 I mean, his son was just suspended.
00:29:33.300 His allies are being erased one at a time.
00:29:36.540 And yet, other than some tough talk, I see nothing from the president.
00:29:41.340 Am I wrong on that?
00:29:42.240 Is something happening behind the scenes?
00:29:43.940 I don't see anything.
00:29:47.940 Well, the problem Trump has had is that he's had the right instincts on this issue, but
00:29:53.000 as in many other areas, the wall included, he's been hamstrung by this federal bureaucracy,
00:29:59.460 this deep state that doesn't implement his agenda and is, in fact, bitterly opposed to
00:30:06.380 his agenda.
00:30:07.260 Now, he can't avoid responsibility altogether.
00:30:09.740 He should have made more appointments earlier in his administration to clear out the deep
00:30:14.760 state and to bring more pressure to these tech companies.
00:30:18.660 But I think there was so much going on and so much chaos.
00:30:20.800 It was probably very difficult.
00:30:22.280 Now, the executive order is a step in the right direction.
00:30:24.800 There are more good people being appointed to federal positions and positions in the administration.
00:30:30.820 Adam Kandaeb, who's been very good on Section 230 issues, recently appointed the administration
00:30:37.660 to look at some of these tech issues.
00:30:39.380 There are signs of progress in the administration, but I don't think anything will be done by
00:30:44.800 the time of the next election.
00:30:46.500 And that's partly why I wrote this book, Ezra, because over the past four years, it's just
00:30:52.060 been it's been increasingly obvious what the tech companies want to do.
00:30:56.860 They don't want a repeat of 2016.
00:30:58.820 All of my sources inside these companies, inside Facebook and Google and all the rest,
00:31:04.280 they all say the same thing, that there was a total panic inside these companies after
00:31:09.240 the 2016 election.
00:31:11.120 They all thought that they hadn't done enough to stop Donald Trump.
00:31:14.960 And all of these departments they set up to tackle fake news and misinformation and all
00:31:19.480 these other terms that conveniently emerged right after the 2016 election, they all became
00:31:25.820 staffed by the most anti-Trump people at these companies.
00:31:29.720 The mission is to suppress Donald Trump's online support.
00:31:34.420 They ban countless prominent Trump supporters, as you know, and ultimately steal the election.
00:31:41.820 Yeah, it's happening in Canada, too.
00:31:43.920 A senior staffer from the Liberal Party's leader's office, Kevin Chan, now runs Facebook in Canada.
00:31:50.220 A senior staffer from Trudeau's personal entourage just went to Amazon.
00:31:53.780 Frankly, a week before we were banned, I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
00:31:58.440 I hope your book is not banned.
00:32:01.240 I live in great fear of this issue because it's less than 100 days to the presidential election.
00:32:06.980 And frankly, I don't know what Trump could even do that would be sticky enough to actually
00:32:13.780 work in the next 100 days.
00:32:15.440 You are going to see a propaganda campaign that Goebbels could only dream of.
00:32:20.100 Last word to you, Alan.
00:32:21.160 I think this has to be an issue that the base takes up.
00:32:26.760 And I really think the first step is taking back the Republican Party, completing the work
00:32:31.480 that Donald Trump started.
00:32:33.460 We've got to expose all the Republican politicians, all the conservative think tanks and institutions
00:32:38.360 that are on the take from these big tech companies.
00:32:41.440 And we've got to stop giving them money.
00:32:43.160 We've got to stop supporting them.
00:32:44.180 And, you know, if necessary, primary them.
00:32:47.620 Yeah.
00:32:48.460 Well, that's that's step one.
00:32:51.860 I wish we were at like step seven, eight or nine already.
00:32:54.960 I am deathly afraid of this issue.
00:32:56.920 It was such a close call in 2016 before the Internet was censored.
00:33:01.220 I mean, we had such an amazing year in 2016 because we were not censored.
00:33:05.600 Like so many websites, we were throttled shortly after his election.
00:33:11.400 If Trump, if it was such a close fought thing in 2016, you throw in five or 10 percent to
00:33:17.480 the Democrats because of this meddling.
00:33:19.020 I am afraid that Trump will lose.
00:33:21.320 Hopefully my pessimism is not well put.
00:33:23.680 Alan, great to see you again.
00:33:24.600 Good luck on the book.
00:33:25.340 Please come back when it's officially out there because we'd love to interview you for that.
00:33:29.700 Thank you, Ezra.
00:33:32.060 Great to be on, as always.
00:33:33.020 All right.
00:33:33.300 There you have it.
00:33:33.700 Alan Bocari, senior tech editor for Breitbart.com.
00:33:37.320 Stay with us.
00:33:37.820 More ahead.
00:33:49.540 I already read Steve's letter as my monologue tonight, but on my monologue last night on
00:33:54.660 the National Post banning our reporters from the Alberta legislature, Mark writes, I stopped
00:33:58.520 reading the National Post because of their blatant censorship and obvious bias towards
00:34:02.720 all things LPC, Liberal Party of Canada.
00:34:05.240 Money bought the media, which means they're no longer unbiased, fair and balanced.
00:34:09.260 Well, listen, the National Post is the least worst.
00:34:13.180 Them and the Toronto Sun I like.
00:34:14.740 Doesn't change the fact that they're on Trudeau's payroll.
00:34:17.680 David writes, I regret that I don't have a National Post subscription to cancel.
00:34:22.320 Yet, what are they doing?
00:34:23.440 What are they even doing?
00:34:25.340 No journalist should be censoring other journalists.
00:34:27.580 Why are they doing that?
00:34:30.260 On my interview with Kian Bextie on the Wee scandal, Elizabeth writes, Craig and Mark
00:34:34.260 Kilberger make the back of my neck prickle every time I see them.
00:34:36.920 Always trust your initial reaction to people.
00:34:38.540 It's usually right.
00:34:40.100 You know, they really remind me of Trudeau in the manner that he speaks in their evasion.
00:34:46.660 And I think that works most of the time.
00:34:49.380 But yesterday was maybe that one in a hundred times when people see right through the Teflon.
00:34:54.000 And I think people see they're scammers.
00:34:56.560 I wonder who's the bigger crime family, the Trudeau's or the Kielberg's?
00:35:00.540 Or frankly, I think they're sort of merged.
00:35:02.760 I wonder if they'll get away with it again.
00:35:05.520 Well, that's our show for today.
00:35:07.200 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
00:35:11.120 good night and keep fighting for freedom.
00:35:13.280 We'll see you next time.