SCOOP： Trudeau’s best friend Gerald Butts is in the centre of another ethics scandal, involving hundreds of thousands of your tax dollars
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Sheila Gunn-Reed has a new scoop, and it's a big one. She's scooped Trudeau's best friend Gerald Butts, and he's just having a tantrum about it. Today's episode of the Ezra Levant Show is brought to you by Rebel Media slash Showcase, where Ezra LeVant and David Menzi talk about the latest ethics scandal involving hundreds of thousands of dollars in tax dollars.
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Hello, my Rebels. Today, we talk about a big scoop from Sheila Gunn-Reed. Oh, she nailed it this week.
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And the scoop scooped Gerald Butts up, and he don't like it much. He's just having a little
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tantrum. He's having a tantrum. The story's moved on since then. Actually, there's new chapters
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in the story. Kian Bextie was down in New York chasing the story down a bit. We'll show you that.
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Tonight, Trudeau's best friend, Gerald Butts, is the center of another ethics scandal involving
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hundreds of thousands of your tax dollars. It's August 29th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
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Hey, did you see Sheila Gunn-Reed's huge scoop the other day? Turns out that Justin Trudeau sent
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a huge soul-sourced contract. That means a contract that no other companies were even
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allowed to bid on. Trudeau sent it to the Eurasia Group. Who's that? Well, what a coincidence.
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That just happens to be the New York City lobby group that gave Gerald Butts, Trudeau's disgraced
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advisor and best friend, a soft landing after he was forced to resign in disgrace after the
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SNC-Lavalin fiasco this year. Here, let me play a few minutes of Sheila's exclusive video for you.
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It's her story, so I'll let her tell it. But stick around, because since she broke the news
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a couple days ago in this video, a whole bunch of other very interesting things happened. So
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this video from Sheila is just part one of the story. Watch this.
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Breaking news. Gerald Butts' new company just received a soul-source contract from the federal
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government totaling nearly $200,000 Canadian. And only the rebel is bringing you all the details.
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So we don't think that, we think that the oil sands have been expanded too rapidly
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without a serious plan for environmental remediation in the first place.
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So that's why we don't think it's up to us to decide whether there should be another
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route for a pipeline. Because the real alternative is not an alternative route. It's an alternative
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That video, of course, is Justin Trudeau's best friend, former chief advisor, and now current
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campaign worker, Gerald Butts. Way back when he was with the World Wildlife Fund in a rare moment of
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complete and total honesty about how the Liberals truly feel about Canada's oil and gas sector.
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According to Butts, it just shouldn't exist at all. Which now begs the question,
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why is Gerald Butts' new employer getting a $150,000 US sole-source contract from the Canadian
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government to provide expertise on the energy sector? Let's go back a little though.
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Butts joined the Eurasia Group shortly after he resigned in disgrace amidst the SNC-Lavalin scandal.
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That's the scandal where Justin Trudeau was just found guilty of his second ethics violation while
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in office for putting unlawful pressure on Jody Wilson-Raybould, Canada's first Aboriginal female
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attorney general, to cut a sweetheart deal with the corrupt Quebec-based company for deferred
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prosecution. Butts has since then quietly rejoined the federal liberal campaign. But despite Butts
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being elbows deep in an ethics scandal, and despite Butts also being part of the official liberal war
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room, and despite Butts saying many, many times over that oil and gas should be phased out altogether,
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Gerald Butts' brand new New York-based employer just got a $200,000 Canadian, or $150,000
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US sole-source contract from Natural Resources Canada to give advice on energy markets. Here are
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the full details from the Government of Canada procurement website of the sole-source contract
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we uncovered just this morning. Now Sheila reads some of the document in question. I'll skip that in
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the interest of time. But you can see Sheila's full video elsewhere on our website. But check out this
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part. Why was no one else allowed to be part of the bid process for this contract? Well, it's right
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here under Section 6D. According to the federal government, only one person is capable of performing
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the work. Apparently, the Prime Minister's best friend, former chief advisor, and current campaign
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worker is the only guy for the job. What a happy coincidence. And the total cost of the contract,
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as I said earlier, is here under Section 9. Estimated cost. The estimated maximum value of the contract
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for one year is $149,940 US. Tax is not applicable. And here is how we know it went to Gerald Butts' new
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company, hand-selected by the Liberal government without any competition from anyone else in the
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country. Section 10, name and address of the proposed contractor. Eurasia Group, 149 Fifth Avenue, 15th
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floor, New York, New York, 10010. Now the rest of Sheila's video shows you what an idiot Gerald Butts
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is. I mean, he's very smart IQ-wise, but he's what the scholar Nassim Taleb would call an idiot yet,
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sorry, intellectual yet idiot. That's a funny phrase. I love it. As someone who is book smart,
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but has no clue about how things actually work, because he's never actually done anything,
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Taleb's phrase is no skin in the game. You can tell that by all the kooky schemes Gerald Butts
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supports. I mean, he's the nut who said the answer to what practical route should a pipeline take is,
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no, no, no, no, no. Just ban pipelines altogether and just, you know, just create a whole new economy
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that doesn't need oil. You know, just poof, magic wand. Just do it already, guys.
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We think that the oil sands have been expanded too rapidly without a serious plan for environmental
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remediation in the first place. So that's why we don't think it's up to us to decide whether there
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should be another, another route for a pipeline, because the real alternative is not an alternative
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route. It's an alternative economy. Yeah. Idiot, intellectual yet idiot, as Taleb would say. So
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that was Sheila's blockbuster video this week. I showed you the substance of it, but maybe I told you
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too many details because the headline is really this. Gerald Butts, the disgraced Trudeau staffer and his
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best friend went to a fancy New York consulting firm that just happened to get a sole source 200 grand
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contract. Yeah, I think I've seen this movie before. It's how the liberals do everything, especially Butts
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himself. You will recall that Gerald Butts, when he moved to Ottawa from Toronto, he billed taxpayers six
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figures just to move down the road, just to move down the highway from Toronto to Ottawa. He billed taxpayers six
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figures and then he tried to hide it. And it was only after it was revealed that he grudgingly paid back a small
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portion of it. I'm sorry, that's padding your expenses. That's a fraud thing or embezzlement. That's the firing
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offense in the real world. But in Trudeau land, the only thing they were mad at him for was that he got caught. I remind
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you, Butts personally signed off on Trudeau accepting the illegal gift of a vacation on the Aga Khan's
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billionaire island in the Bahamas. Butts was behind that too. And Butts tried to keep that secret too.
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That was illegal too, according to the ethics commissioner, but Butts wasn't fired for that.
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Of course. You see a pattern here? Yes, you do. But Butts wasn't fired for his key role in the illegal
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misconduct for SNC-Lavalin either. He was never fired for his role in breaking those laws. He resigned to take the
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heat off of Trudeau. But then he slinked back to work for the liberals again. He's working for them now, as you
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know. Anyway, Sheila broke this news the other day, and it went huge online. But only one other media outlet
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followed Sheila's scoop, the post-millennial. And they basically just rewrote Sheila's news, copying it in some
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places, almost word for word, actually. But at least they gave Sheila credit for breaking the story.
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But look, like us, the post-millennial is an alternative media, and it's looked down on by
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the fancy parents at the media party. So the story was, so far, contained from the liberal point of
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view to the right wing. But then, Brett Wilson, the successful financier and former Dragon's Den star,
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well, he was furious about it. He tweeted his outrage. And in fact, he was outraged to the point
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of swearing, which he doesn't often do. Now, that's a fancy guy, Brett Wilson. He's conservative,
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sure, but he's part of the jet set himself, A-list kind of guy. He's someone that Gerald Butts
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obviously respects, or at least fears a little bit. So Butts just finally lost it. He went nuts a little
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bit. He said, it's a lie. This is a lie. You can see he's responding directly to Brett. It's a lie.
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And the lying lie was told by liars. And we're all liars. It's a right wing echo chamber. Consider
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this public notice, Brett. Now, I'm not sure what that last part means. Notice for what, buddy? Do you
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mean like a defamation notice, like a legal document? But what do you mean? Do you deny that the contract
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was given to the Eurasia group? I mean, we showed the document. It came from the government's own
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website. You could find it yourself. You could watch Sheila's video. It's there. And what exactly
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was he threatening? Notice of what, buddy? Butts was so upset. He started making weird threats all
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over the place. Look at this. He's threatening a former ambassador, Vivian Bercovici. It's just all
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like, no, flat out lie. Ah, the rebel. Ah, they told me I haven't retracted. Notice number
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two. Notice, what is this, like an auction? 25, 25, going once, going twice, see $30 bid.
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Going once, going twice. Notice for what? Are you going to sue us for mentioning this? You
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can sue us for mentioning the fact that shortly after you decamped Ottawa in disgrace for the
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Eurasia group, a $200,000 sole source contract was sent over there? You're going to sue us
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for telling people that? Sure you are, buddy. Just like you told Justin Trudeau to threaten
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to sue Andrew Scheer for criticizing you over the SNC-Lavalin scandal. You still haven't followed
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through on that lawsuit because you'd lose and because you'd have to disclose all your internal
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memos and emails and other documents that you are currently hiding. So sue us for reporting on
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the fact that we got from a government website. Oh, please don't throw me into the briar patch.
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Please don't do that. Now, Butts was clearly coordinating his response with his friends at the Eurasia
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Group because we received this email from them. It was written by Irina Oyama, and the subject line
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was correction requested. They said, hello, this is a request to correct the record regarding
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yesterday's article about Gerald Butts, Eurasia Group, and Natural Resources Canada. Natural Resources
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Canada has been a Eurasia Group client since 2017, and Gerald Butts has not been involved in that
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relationship. At any stage, Eurasia Group is an independent, nonpartisan research firm that
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employs senior advisors from across the political spectrum and has worked with global investors,
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multinational corporations, and governments, including Canada, since 1998. In short, the
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basis of this article is inaccurate, and we ask you to please retract it accordingly. Irina Oyama,
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Director of Communications, Eurasia Group, 149 5th Ave, 15th floor, New York.
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Okay, so what was the error that needs correcting? You saw Sheila's video. She said they got a sole
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source contract for about 150 U.S., which is about 200 Canadian. So we have the primary document.
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We have a copy of it, right? Are they saying that's not true? Now, we know it's true. We all know it's true.
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We got it from the government website. You, dear viewer, can go to the government website and get
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it. And they didn't deny it was true. They didn't say it was like a forgery or something. That would
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be weird. In fact, they told us something that we didn't know that was pretty incredible. They said
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this isn't their first payment from the liberals. They told us, I think by accident, that they'd been
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getting contracts from Trudeau. Did you catch that part? Since 2017. I think that's what's called an
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unforced error. They just sort of blurted that out. They told us more of what they're doing,
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something we didn't know. We didn't know that. At least I didn't. But they literally told us about
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more scandals. That not only did they get a sole source contract about global warming or whatever
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once Butts went to work for them, but they got a contract before when Butts was still working for
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Trudeau. So in 2017, Butts and Trudeau approve a contract to this New York lobby group that hates
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oil. I mean, who knows? We're trying to find out more details about it. I hope they'll tell us.
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It's for 200 grand. Well, actually, the new one was for 200 grand. What was the 2017 one? Hundreds of
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thousands? Millions? Who knows? With these drunken sailors, the way they spend money. So Butts hires
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a Eurasia group back in 2017. They get paid in 2017 from taxpayer money. Then Butts resigns in disgrace
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and gets a soft landing at that same Eurasia group. And then surprise, they get a sole source payment
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from Justin Trudeau after that. Yeah, no wonder Butts is freaking out at Sheila's report. This wasn't
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supposed to come out until after the election. Who released that contract? They're fired.
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But the funny thing, if you read the replies to Butts's tweet, a lot of people, well, they're laughing
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at him because his denial of the facts that we knew and the new ones that they just told us,
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it's so laughable. And we all heard Butts's lies to Parliament just a few months ago regarding the SNC-Lavalin
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scandal. And we all learned from the ethics commissioner about how he corrupted the justice
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system by trying to undermine Jody Wilson-Raybould. So no one believes him anymore. He's known as a liar.
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It's quite something. Now, by chance, our Kean Bexte was in New York City yesterday on a different
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matter. And as I just showed you, that's where the Eurasia group is headquartered. So I said,
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why don't you pop by? Why don't you pop by? So he did. But they wouldn't let him up to the office.
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We just got an email from that Miss Oyama. We just got it. And what better way than just to show up
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and say, hey, I'm here to talk. Thanks. You want to make a correction? What's going on?
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But they claimed she wasn't there. Then they said she couldn't even take a phone call. Really?
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It's a busy workday. You're the communications director for a big company, but no one can find you
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or your deputy. And then they literally stopped answering their phone at all. They would hang
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up, hang up, hang up. It was like they were in panic lockdown mode just because Kean was there.
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And they wouldn't let Kean come up to their office to talk. They have a media relations officer.
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That's who this Arena Oyama is. It's right in their title there. That's all we wanted to do,
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to talk to the person whose job is to talk to us, the person who wrote us a letter saying they had
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something to say to us. Okay, great. We're very interested in what you have to say. But they started
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hiding from us and they even wouldn't even let him up the elevator. Here, just watch a few minutes
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of Kean's video yesterday. So I want to ask a few questions and they're quite obvious. Did Gerald
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Butts have anything to do with those contracts? Was that original contract in 2017 sole sourced
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or not? When was the first time that Eurasia Group dealt with Gerald Butts? Was it after he left
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politics and then they hired him? I kind of doubt it. I imagine it was closer to 2017. We know Gerald
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Butts is the one running the government. He's the brains behind Justin Trudeau. I would be very
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surprised if Eurasia Group had no contact with him prior to when they started dealing with him
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after politics. So I'm here waiting outside of this building. I've called them several times. I've
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called both their New York office and their DC office. Yeah, something fishy is going on here.
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They don't want to answer any questions. Even after they told us to retract our article,
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they're not explaining why. They're not giving us any information. I'm going to go walk in there
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and see if I can go up to their floor and talk to them. Let's see if I can get through.
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Hi. To sign in as a visitor for Eurasia Group. Just on here. You have women today?
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No. I'm a reporter. Let me speak with them in regards to a story we're running.
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No, I guess I'm not surprised. I am, however, disappointed. We're not going to quit digging on
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this file. This story is huge. Even though the liberal elite don't want us reporting on it,
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they put us on public notice. I don't know what that means. Gerald Butts tweeted this earlier this
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week. Just yesterday, actually, I think it was. I don't know what public notice means. I don't know
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if it's a threat for a lawsuit or if this was just a dog whistle to the liberal party's leashed and
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collared mainstream media. We all remember when Telford said that she could get anyone to write
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any helpful office that the prime minister's office needed. Something fishy is going on here
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at the Eurasia Group in New York. We're not sure what extent the relationship goes to with Gerald
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Butts, but we're going to keep digging. We're going to keep filing ATIPS and we're going to get
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to the bottom of this. Holy moly. So what do we know?
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Well, we know that a group of New York consultants are getting rich off Canadian taxpayers. They
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started getting rich off us in 2017 when Gerald Butts was in the PMO. Then Butts went to join them
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for a soft landing when he resigned in disgrace. And the money kept coming. And you know what sole
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source means, right? It means that no one is even allowed to say, oh, hi, we're a company in Canada
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and we can do a better and cheaper job. No, no, no, no, no. This was going to the Eurasia
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So we know they hate our report that Sheila did. We know they're issuing veiled threats.
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I think that's what Butts is doing. We're not scared. We know our facts. In fact, we want
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more answers to the questions that Kean was asking.
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But that veiled threat? First notice. Second notice. I think that's enough to keep the media
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party away from our story. Do you really think that Rosemary Barton of the CBC, look at the love
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in her face. Do you really think she's going to ask Justin Trudeau about it? I mean, here she is
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taking a photo with her platonic boyfriend. He's just not that into you, Rosemary. I'm sorry to tell
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you. And here he is with Althea Raj, who's also taking a selfie with Trudeau with his tongue out.
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He does that tongue out thing a lot. You know, I've got little kids. They do that too.
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Now, I show you Rosemary Barton and Althea Raj because those two tough, hard-hitting journalists
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are going to be amongst those moderating the leaders' debates. Yeah. They know not to misbehave
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now that Gerald Butts has issued two public notices or they won't get to do fun things like
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moderate the leaders' debates anymore. Bob Fyfe made the mistake of asking tough questions of
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Trudeau about SNC-Levelin. And not only is he banned from moderating the debates, but so is the
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Globe and Mail. Here's what the CBC has chosen to focus on. Instead, I'm not even kidding, as Sheila's
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story was just tearing up the social media. CBC News Alert. I swear to God, look at that.
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It's called a news. It's not just news. Alert, alert. Ga-goo-ga. Ga-goo-ga. Everybody,
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battle stations, we have a news alert. Marriott International, the world's largest hotel chain,
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will eliminate small plastic bottles of shampoo, conditioner, and bath shell from its hotel
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rooms worldwide by December 2020. They'll be replaced with larger bottles or wall-mounted
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dispensers, depending on the hotel. This has been a public service emergency announcement
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from CBC News. Ga-goo-ga. I swear to God, that is not a... We didn't make that up. That's not
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Photoshop. I swear to God. Ga-goo-ga. Give me a big siren.
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Okay. Warning. Warning. Ladies and gentlemen. Like, that's like, you know, on your cell phone
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when you get those amber alerts, like everyone, oh, bam, bam, bam. Marriott Hotels has decided
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that they're replacing little bottles of shampoo with big bottles of shampoo. We now return
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you. That's CBC News, I swear to God. Hey, thanks, CBC News Alerts. I am glad you're alert
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to what a U.S. hotel chain will do next year with their shampoo bottles.
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But I get it. I absolutely, totally get it because they're not going to get in trouble
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with Gerald Butts by reporting on shampoo bottles. Will they? Hey, guys, just don't call yourself
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journalists anymore. You can use that adjective, government journalist, but please never, ever,
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ever, ever, ever call yourself a journalist again, okay? Just be honest.
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Hey, remember what Gerald Butts told Jody Wilson-Raybould? Remember when she said,
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we can't have interference with the law? I'm sorry. I know you love that corrupt company
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that paid bribes to Muammar Gaddafi. And there's a question. I mean, if SNC-Lavalin pays bribes
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everywhere they go, like everywhere, I wonder if they ever paid a bribe to Gerald Butts, because
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he sure likes taking money. I wonder if we'll ever know the answer to that. Anyways, so Jody
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Wilson-Raybould said, no, no, no, I'm sorry, you can't interfere. And he said this, and I'm
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quoting here, this is word for word what he said in reply. He told Jody Wilson-Raybould,
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quote, there is no solution here that doesn't involve some interference, unquote. That's what
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he said to Jody Wilson-Raybould. So the guy who pocketed more than a hundred grand just to move
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down the road, the guy who okayed Trudeau's illegal secret vacation, the guy who quarterbacked the
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illegal SNC-Lavalin campaign, he just happened to land himself at a consulting firm that just
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happened to receive lavish payments from Trudeau's government both before and after he went there.
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He's, he's corrupt. He's a Librano. And we're only starting to ask questions. I guess you could
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say this video, that's my public notice to Gerald Butts. Stay with us for more.
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advertiser's dream come true. I don't know how many people would have seen those say no to mass
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immigration billboards on their own driving by. Maybe tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands,
00:25:45.460
but surely millions saw it in the media brouhaha. But still, it's bad news to have censorship rule the
00:25:53.660
day on such an important topic. But wouldn't you know it, that there is something we need to talk
00:26:00.800
about with mass immigration. It's not just conservative pundits and conservative candidates
00:26:05.840
who think so. It seems some labor unions think so, at least the labor union representing Canada's
00:26:11.720
border police joining us now to talk about this. And a story she's written on the subject is our friend
00:26:17.160
Candace Malcolm, the founder of TNC.news. That's True North. Candace, great to see you again. How you doing?
00:26:24.400
Hi, I'm good, Ezra. Thanks for having me on. Oh, it's a pleasure. I've got your article here in
00:26:27.920
front of me from TNC.news. The headline is, Border Union Raises the Alarm on Lack of Resources to Deal
00:26:36.460
with Bogus Refugee Claims. So that's not some conservative candidate or Maxime Bernier. That's
00:26:42.100
the labor union representing the people whose job it is to stop the bad guys from coming in.
00:26:48.300
Yeah, that's right. These are the frontline workers, Ezra, that have to deal with this huge surge of illegal
00:26:53.080
immigration happening in our country every single day, day in and day out. So Jean-Pierre
00:26:57.240
Fortune, who is the union boss over there, he's flat out saying what's going on, which is that
00:27:02.600
when people enter Canada illegally, a lot of the times they simply disappear. And it's the job of
00:27:08.280
the Canadian Border Service Agency, CBSA, to track these people down and deport them. But they simply
00:27:14.460
don't have the resources. $90 million was spent in a single year back in 2015. That was before this
00:27:20.560
huge surge. We don't know what the current spending rate is, Ezra, but it's astronomical. And we just
00:27:27.540
don't have the resources to deal with the tens of thousands of people who are walking into Canada
00:27:31.720
illegally every year. Yeah, one of the startling things that I don't think most Canadians know
00:27:37.100
is that all these fake refugees, all these fake applicants, whose very first act, by the way,
00:27:43.000
is breaking the law by crossing an illegal border crossing where there's a big sign saying it's illegal.
00:27:47.900
I think one of the things that surprises people is while they're waiting for their day in court,
00:27:53.960
the Immigration and Refugee Board, they're allowed to go anywhere. They don't have to check in. They
00:27:58.380
don't have to be wearing an anklet or something. Now, some countries like Australia, if you show up
00:28:03.900
in some migrant vessel, they'll seize you, take you to an island, give you medical care, give you food,
00:28:11.280
you'll be fine. And you will not get to go to Sydney or Melbourne or Canberra. You have to stay
00:28:17.760
on this little island. They got Christmas Island. And if you're found to be a legit refugee,
00:28:23.220
they'll send you to a little country called Nauru that's safe. And they pay Nauru like 50 grand to
00:28:29.560
take you. But you will not get to go to Sydney. And everybody knows that now. You won't be thrown
00:28:35.600
back to some terrible place. Odds are you're a faker. So that's how Australia does it. We sort
00:28:40.840
of take the exact opposite approach, don't we? We let them go straight to Toronto, Montreal,
00:28:44.260
let them go straight to welfare, food banks, hospital lines, whatever, don't we?
00:28:48.140
Exactly. You couldn't have two polar opposite approaches to immigration as we're at Australia.
00:28:52.560
They put out huge posters everywhere saying you will not call Australia home. Do not make the
00:28:57.440
dangerous journey. Don't try to get here illegally. It's unsafe and there's no benefit whatsoever to
00:29:02.720
doing it. And as you just explained, they have a very restrictive protocol to dealing with these
00:29:07.660
folks. Whereas Canada literally has the opposite approach. We have our prime minister tweeting away
00:29:11.900
on social media saying, you know, come to Canada. Welcome to Canada. Canada is your home. And basically
00:29:16.840
encouraging people to take the often dangerous journey. We've had people sadly pass away in the
00:29:23.620
cold winters trying to cross illegally across border fields and ditches in Minnesota and in upstate New
00:29:30.100
York. People, as soon as they cross into the Canadian border, it's like they're home free.
00:29:34.880
They get a free card to stay. They wait in queue for that immigration hearing. Because of the huge
00:29:40.200
surge that we have experienced, thanks to Justin Trudeau on social media, it takes years, Ezra, to get
00:29:46.400
your case heard in front of an immigration judge. And then even if you're rejected, you then still have
00:29:53.600
to wait. There was a CBC report that came out a few months ago that said the majority of people who have
00:29:58.200
their applicants rejected. So these are not refugees. They're fake refugees. They don't
00:30:02.800
leave on their own. They wait for the CBSA to come and deport them. Ezra, only 900 people have
00:30:08.680
been deported in the last three years under Justin Trudeau. So it's such a small number when you compare
00:30:13.300
that to the 150 some thousand people who have come illegally. 900 have been deported. The rest of
00:30:19.240
the people, as the CBSA is declaring now, they disappear. They just, you know, get absorbed. They
00:30:25.440
go to Toronto or Vancouver and, you know, they continue to live with an illegal status.
00:30:30.840
So if I heard you right on the numbers, if you're a fake refugee, even if you're found to be fake,
00:30:36.720
even if you have your day in court years after arriving and lose, there's a 99% chance you'll stick
00:30:45.000
around if you, if I heard you right. Did I hear you right on the numbers there? 150,000, but 900
00:30:51.060
deported. Is that right? Well, so 150,000 have come into the, into Canada since Trudeau has been
00:30:57.360
prime minister. They haven't all had their day in court yet. But of the ones who have had their day
00:31:01.400
in court, only, only about 900 have been deported. So, you know, the, the, the message is really clear,
00:31:07.100
Ezra. If you come to Canada, there's pretty much nothing we can do to get you out of the country.
00:31:10.580
Once you're here, you're here and you can, you even have access to things that Canadian citizens
00:31:14.600
have access to like appeals. You can appeal the decision. You can, you can get another day in
00:31:19.120
court. You know, it's really just sort of an endless, uh, you know, conveyor belt to the
00:31:23.640
Canadian immigration system that just gives you chance after chance after chance. And then even
00:31:27.440
then you can still give a humanitarian plea saying, look, I've made a family in Canada and I have roots
00:31:32.620
here now. Don't deport me. So the chances of someone ever getting deported are just incredibly slim,
00:31:38.060
given the system that we have. We're such a nation of suckers. And it's because Justin Trudeau
00:31:42.880
wants to virtue signal, but not out of his own pocket, not out of his own bank account, not out
00:31:47.320
of his own house. He wants taxpayers to foot the, to clear the checks at his mouth. Uh, he, he, you
00:31:53.840
know, he writes a check with his mouth and we got to cash it. You know, I learned something from your
00:31:58.540
article that startled me, but I, it shouldn't have. Uh, let me read from your article on TNC.news.
00:32:05.880
It is believed that approximately 400 Mexican cartel members have gained access to the country
00:32:13.520
since prime minister Justin Trudeau lifted visa requirements for Mexico. There's a reason we have
00:32:20.800
a visa requirement from Mexico. It's, you know, because we can learn that millions of Mexicans
00:32:27.300
want to go to Canada, the United States. And if we don't have a visa, they're going to do the same
00:32:31.740
thing to Canada that they did to California. I just didn't know we had 400 cartel members.
00:32:35.720
That's like MS-13. That's like the drug gangs, right? Right. And they're making their way to
00:32:40.420
Canada. There's a huge market for selling narcotics up in Canada. And you know, it makes sense. We used
00:32:45.100
to have protocols. We used to have a system in place. So if you were coming from Mexico to Canada,
00:32:49.360
you had to apply for a visa beforehand. You had to demonstrate that you were only coming to visit
00:32:54.360
Canada, that you weren't going to stay, you weren't going to make an asylum claim and that you
00:32:57.700
weren't inadmissible for criminal reasons. So we would have data sharing with Mexico,
00:33:02.240
we would be able to look at a database and see if a person was a criminal. And Trudeau inexplicably
00:33:07.340
as a scrap that measure for no good reason, other than the fact that he was buddies with the Mexican
00:33:13.640
president down there. And all of a sudden, we had this huge surge, a huge, huge surge of Mexicans
00:33:19.640
doing just that showing up unannounced. We don't know who these folks are making asylum claims. And
00:33:24.920
you know, it's no surprise that amidst the people who are desperately trying to flee,
00:33:29.680
they're trying to escape violence in Mexico, you're also going to have some of the people
00:33:32.840
who are promoting that violence. These drug cartel members that are moving up to Canada,
00:33:36.640
they have, you know, a big audience of people who might be interested in buying drugs up there.
00:33:42.580
And, you know, it's no surprise that these people are nefarious characters are sneaking in.
00:33:47.520
And, you know, these are the worst of the worst people. We don't have the measures in place,
00:33:51.440
unfortunately, anymore to stop that. Yeah, you know, if I was a Mexican and I wanted to flee
00:33:56.420
the country and go to some rich place with lots of health care and education, I'd probably think
00:34:03.100
of California first. There's so many other Mexicans there. Lots of people speak the language. The
00:34:08.220
climate is even similar. But at least they sort of have a border force that's sort of deporting you.
00:34:15.420
Canada is colder. There's not as many Mexicans up here. But I guess what I'm learning from your
00:34:21.060
article is you get here, you're safe and sound. So if you're willing to put up with a little bit
00:34:27.400
of cold winters, basically all of Mexico would come here because, I mean, what's so incredible
00:34:32.160
about your article is that these border security agents, they can't even determine the nationality
00:34:39.980
of these people. It's just chaos and lawlessness. And this isn't a secret. This is how Trudeau wants
00:34:50.480
it to be. Like, this isn't some startling revelation. This isn't some bug. This is what
00:34:55.780
Trudeau considers to be a feature of our system. Like, this isn't an accident. This is the plan.
00:35:02.040
Right. And he's doubled down on it many, many times. You know, the day that he sent out that
00:35:05.920
welcome to Canada tweet, it was right after President Trump had issued his executive order
00:35:10.140
banning people from seven countries that were terrorist havens. And Trudeau virtue signaling
00:35:15.900
said, you know, regardless of who you are, what faith you have, you can come to Canada.
00:35:20.100
You know, that wasn't an outlier. That wasn't just him, you know, making a mistake and trying
00:35:24.800
to get publicity. They repeated that message over and over and over again. And, you know, as a result,
00:35:30.580
people are coming to Canada. Half the people who arrive in British Columbia to make asylum
00:35:34.420
claims, they're of unknown nationalities. And so that just means that these people don't have
00:35:38.520
any documentation. They don't have passports. They say, oh, I'm from Mexico. But we don't know
00:35:43.120
that. They could be from anywhere. They could be from anywhere in Latin America or anywhere in the
00:35:46.800
world. And it happens over and over again, half the cases. And so, you know, if you were a person who
00:35:52.340
had a red flag on your file, Ezra, if you were a known, wanted criminal, war criminal, terrorist,
00:35:58.580
drug dealer, you know, we've seen all these people come to Canada. You know, you just get rid of your
00:36:02.500
passport on the way. And it's a lot harder for our officials to actually track you down and find
00:36:09.240
out who you are. Maybe give maybe that would give you enough time, a window to get out of the
00:36:14.000
holding center. And then as JP Fortune, the CBSA boss said, disappear because you know that you
00:36:20.600
wouldn't be wanted in Canada. So, you know, it really is just a chaotic mess at our borders right
00:36:25.640
now. It's taxpayers that are putting the bill. It's CBSA frontline officials that are paying the price
00:36:30.520
of having to deal with this chaos. And, you know, Trudeau is riding high, completely oblivious
00:36:35.780
or carefree. He doesn't worry about this kind of stuff. You know, it's the rest of us that have
00:36:40.700
to sit and worry about it. Yeah. You know, almost every day I see news out of the United States that
00:36:44.940
an illegal alien who was supposed to be deported commits a murder or a rape. There's so many down
00:36:50.780
there. In some counties, the majority of rape cases are illegal immigrants. It's a shocking
00:36:57.260
narrative in the United States because of the sheer number. We really haven't had a lot
00:37:02.180
of those cases in Canada yet. There's the case of Marissa Shan in Burnaby, who was allegedly raped
00:37:10.200
by one of Trudeau's Syrians, one of the Syrians who wasn't supposed to be let in. He was a single
00:37:15.200
young male who weren't supposed to be included in his refugee plans. Fortunately, we haven't had a lot
00:37:23.240
of those cases. But I fear that if we're letting in tens of thousands of people and we're not even
00:37:28.800
kicking out the ones who come and obviously lie about, oh, I don't have a passport, we're going to
00:37:34.260
start seeing those crimes, too. I tell you, I mentioned Australia before. If you were to land on a beach
00:37:39.580
in Australia with no passport, the default is send you back. It's not let you in. And they know that in
00:37:44.720
Australia. That's why they don't go there as much. But they also know we're a soft touch. I think that
00:37:49.500
I really don't know what's different between Justin Trudeau's policy and the policy of someone
00:37:55.240
who deliberately was trying to undo Canada. I don't see any difference between the two.
00:38:00.400
Yeah, I tend to agree. I think that this is sort of, you know, there's something deeper and darker
00:38:04.520
here that Trudeau doesn't really respect what it means to be Canadian. He doesn't think there's
00:38:08.420
anything special about Canada or being Canadian. And he just wants to lead this, you know, big,
00:38:13.400
diverse hodgepodge of people. He likes, you know, virtue signaling on the world stage that Canada is so
00:38:19.440
diverse and that there's so many people that live side by side. But, you know, the only reason that
00:38:23.740
works, Ezra, is because we have a social compact and we have that, you know, shared values underneath
00:38:29.020
and that unity. And when Trudeau just, you know, brazenly opens up the door and lets anyone in and
00:38:34.600
doesn't require people to learn English, to live in Canada full time, even, he gives out citizenship
00:38:40.220
very quickly, changed all those rules. You know, he's really breaking down and undermining
00:38:46.880
that Canadian unity and what it means to be Canadian. He doesn't value it. And, you know,
00:38:51.420
sooner or later, there's not going to be that glue that holds our society together when there's just
00:38:55.360
all of these isolated silo groups that don't have anything in common and they don't share a Canadian
00:39:00.140
identity. They don't even share a language. They don't know the history. It really, it's really
00:39:05.340
concerning. And, you know, what is Canada going to look like 30, 40, 50 years down the road when we have
00:39:10.500
this mentality? You know, this guy is going to continue to run our country and do this for another
00:39:15.280
four years. It's really scary to imagine what might happen to Canada.
00:39:19.820
Yeah. You know, I talk sometimes about a high trust society versus a low trust society. I've
00:39:25.660
been to Northern Iraq and I have seen firsthand what a low trust society means. It means you trust no
00:39:30.500
one. In fact, there's a saying, me versus my brother, me and my brother versus my cousin,
00:39:37.140
me, my brother and my cousin against the other family, me and that other family against the other
00:39:42.240
like, it's so you're so distrustful. Everyone's out to get everyone. As Hobbes would say, it's a war
00:39:48.340
of all against all. And that's a low trust society. That's a terrible place. Here in Canada, we're a
00:39:55.160
high trust society. We, we give food away for free because we assume you're not going to take it if
00:40:00.180
you don't, if you're not poor. But so many of our customs, so many of like the fact that we trust
00:40:06.060
that a young woman can go out on the street and ride a bus without being sexually assaulted.
00:40:10.940
That's a high trust society. You trust other people and you bring in enough low trust society
00:40:16.520
people into a high trust society. They're going to raid us clean. They're going to wring us out
00:40:24.300
and we're going to be like Sweden is. Perhaps the highest trust society in the world that has just
00:40:30.080
been overwhelmed by scammers and schemers. I'm so pessimistic, Candace. Let me ask you about the
00:40:35.500
election. Other than Maxime Bernier and his ill-fated billboard, I don't see anyone wanting
00:40:42.320
to talk about these issues. Even Andrew Scheer, the best he'll say is, oh, we should have a more
00:40:46.820
orderly system. He's not talking about any changes to the system.
00:40:52.080
Well, I like to think that, you know, one, if a conservative, either Bernier or Scheer were elected
00:40:57.840
and stepped into the immigration department and saw the sort of mess that had been created,
00:41:02.000
we know that when Syrian refugees were coming to Canada, the Trudeau government just skipped all
00:41:06.340
kinds of important integration and sort of welcome to Canada workshops that migrants are supposed to
00:41:11.440
go to, refugees are supposed to go to, you know, that kind of stuff. I think that if you had a
00:41:15.900
conservative in there that cared about Canadian values and cared about, you know, the future of
00:41:20.380
our country, they would just need to, you know, rework that and make sure that when people are coming
00:41:25.960
to Canada, they do go through that integration training and that we are more careful of who we let
00:41:30.860
into our country, who we screen, how we screen and how we vet people. Just, you know, because some
00:41:36.940
people come, like you said, these low-trust societies, if you come from a place where everyone
00:41:40.980
cheats, no one follows the rules, no one respects order or the rule of law, and you come to Canada,
00:41:46.160
you know, you can't just expect overnight for them to suddenly respect institutions and the rule of
00:41:50.440
law. You know, as far as the election goes, I think it's an incredibly important election. I think
00:41:54.860
anyone in office would be better than what the Trudeau liberals have done in their approach,
00:41:58.900
especially to citizenship and immigration. So I do believe that any other party, any other
00:42:04.480
government would be a big improvement to what Trudeau is doing here. Well, I hope you're right.
00:42:09.380
I don't see any backbone in Andrew Scheer, but my conservative, listen, I'm conservative in a small
00:42:14.180
C way, and obviously I want Trudeau out of there. I just wish we had a little more courage in our
00:42:18.720
leader of the opposition. I won't ask you that partisan question, though, my friend. Great to see you
00:42:23.480
again, and I recommend this article and I recommend everything at tnc.news. We talked to your colleague
00:42:30.660
Andrew Lawton just earlier today, and we think you're doing great work. So thanks for coming on
00:42:34.240
our show. Great. Thanks so much, Ezra. All right. There you have it. Our friend Candice Malcolm,
00:42:38.140
the founder of tnc.news and a great expert in matters of immigration. Stay with us. More Ahead on the Rebel.
00:42:53.480
Hey, welcome back to my monologue yesterday about Macron and Trudeau attacking Jair Bolsonaro Brazil
00:43:03.060
over the fires in the Amazon. Liz writes, Macron is a kook. He and Justin are trying to make hay
00:43:08.840
out of the Amazon fire season. Awesome that Bolsonaro told them to take care of their own business.
00:43:14.380
Yeah, I mean, it's so easy to be a pundit and criticize someone else's country,
00:43:23.040
that's not just for the fun of it, just for the sport of it. And I suppose some people would say,
00:43:28.660
well, that's what Donald Trump does. I don't think so. Anytime Donald Trump is jabbing or pushing or
00:43:34.280
pulling, you can sort of see he's trying to get something, trying to pursue some American interest,
00:43:39.740
I think. Maybe I'm apologizing for the guy. But if he's jabbing a country, maybe he wants them to
00:43:45.360
change their policy on something. What's the payoff for Trudeau and Macron to jab Brazil? What's the payoff?
00:43:53.420
Do they really think he's not doing everything he can do to put up the fires? So what French
00:43:58.980
interest, what Canadian interest is being pursued? When Trump roughs someone up, if it's an ally,
00:44:05.260
he's trying to get them to spend more on the military or do a trade deal. If it's an enemy,
00:44:09.320
he's trying to put them in their place, as he does with China. He's at least pursuing America's
00:44:14.200
interest. I do not understand what is in the French interest or the Canadian interest of sneering at
00:44:20.960
Brazil, other than, like I say, virtue signaling by those two losers. And he writes,
00:44:27.120
ever since the Yellow Jacket protests and Notre Dame burning on his watch, Macron has reverted to
00:44:31.640
stunts to make himself important on the world stage, like springing the Iranian minister on the G7
00:44:36.880
summit. Yeah, I wouldn't even call that a stunt. I'd call that just pure ideological leftism,
00:44:44.680
third worldism. So yeah, maybe that was a stunt to embarrass Trump. I think that's just who Macron
00:44:50.380
is. And there's a real tradition in France and other European countries of taking bribes from
00:44:55.860
third world countries. It's just a fact. Dan writes, very informative interview with Julia Song.
00:45:03.720
Hey, Dan, I'm glad you think so. I'm glad you think so. She's fairly young, which is good. I mean,
00:45:08.800
everyone's young compared to me. I like her. I mean, she's got a good attitude. She likes freedom.
00:45:14.860
I think she's getting stronger. I thought she might have had some more technical answers,
00:45:20.120
but maybe she was just speaking from the heart. I'm a fan. I'm a fan of hers. I'm glad you liked
00:45:23.740
her. It's good to get feedback. We'll have her on more. I think she could get a better webcam,
00:45:29.080
frankly, a little clearer, but I'll tell her that advice privately. But no, I'm a fan of hers too.
00:45:32.980
I'm glad you are. We'll have to have her on, especially since we care about Brazil more and more,
00:45:36.360
because we like what Jair Bolsonaro is doing. Obrigado. All right. Well, that's the show for
00:45:42.220
today. I dropped a couple of words in Portuguese there, if you didn't notice. Until next time,
00:45:48.080
on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, keep fighting for freedom.