SEE the hate propaganda I got in the mail — from the House of Commons
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I found a piece of hate mail in my mailbox from Carolyn Bennett, the MP for St. Paul's, New Brunswick, Canada, and it calls everybody in the writing a racist. And there's no answer to her multiple choice questions that doesn't call you a racist of some sort.
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Hello, my rebels. Today, I read something that I found in my mailbox. Maybe I'm overreacting.
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But it was a household letter from Carolyn Bennett, my member of parliament here in Toronto.
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And I think she's gone mad. Or more likely, I think she just handed over the writing of
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her household mailer to Justin Trudeau's campaign. It basically calls everybody in the writing a
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racist. And I mean everybody, because there's no answer to her type of multiple choice questions
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that doesn't call you a racist of some sort. Anyways, before I get out of the way, can you
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Tonight, hate mail in my mailbox here in Toronto in 2019. It's June 18th and this is the Ezra
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my
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I came home and found this in my mailbox. It's a piece of hate mail. It's extremist
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literature. It divides us by race and other grounds that are illegal under the Human Rights
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Act. It blames, it stereotypes. It was really shocking. I thought it was gross. And I think
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it truly is hate propaganda. And I don't think you'll be surprised to know that it's an official
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publication from the House of Commons, a propaganda leaflet paid for by your tax dollars. It's the
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liberal newsletter from Carolyn Bennett, the MP for St. Paul's writing, who's literally the whitest
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minister of Aboriginal affairs that's genetically possible. I don't just mean that genetically. I
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mean that culturally. I can't think of anyone less in touch with Aboriginal people than her.
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It would be like appointing a minister of fisheries from Saskatchewan. I mean, what did Aboriginal
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people do to Trudeau to cause him to hate them? So is it some weird punishment for the whole Jody
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Wilson-Raybould thing? I'll never know why he inflicted this doddering fool on anyone. Maybe
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to keep an eye on Seamus O'Regan, who's also in that department too. Anyway, but back to the hate
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propaganda that she put in my mailbox. So what do you think is important in Canada right now? We're
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heading into an election. What are some things that are important to you? I mean, just tell me,
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is it jobs? Taxes probably? Carbon tax? Maybe free trade with the U.S.? Is there a recession coming?
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Some people say there is. If you're in Toronto, St. Paul's, maybe high housing costs, extremely
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expensive. Crazy bad traffic. Crime, of course. Lots of homelessness these days. Lots of drugs
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in the streets made worse by the publicly sanctioned drug shooting galleries. And of course,
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dump in 50,000 bogus refugees who just walked in across that U.S. border. And of course, Quebec
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didn't want them. So they were all bussed over here from Quebec and then dumped in Toronto. Some
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of them are put up in hotels, but most of them just filling up the hostels and filling up the food
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banks. Hey, there's a lot of problems in Toronto. And I didn't even mention schools or hospitals. But
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the only thing in Carolyn Bennett's mailer was about how racist Canadians are. That's the title.
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Speaking out against racism. What? Is that a problem? In a majority minority city like Toronto,
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we got a black police chief. The greatest public heroes these days are the almost all black sports
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team, the Raptors, whose champion is a black Jewish musician named Drake. And you're saying the number
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one issue is racism. And you're whitesplaining this as a privileged, liberal, rich woman. Yeah,
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that's exactly what she said, because she cited a poll done by a liberal named Frank Graves. But on
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this poll, he is actually accurate. He says that 40% of Canadians think we have enough immigration
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right now. Thank you very much. According to Angus Reid, 49% of Canadians say that. But Graves just says,
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if you're against unlimited immigration, you're racist. And Bennett agrees. I'll read you proof in
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a moment. But there's a delicious part. If you're against immigration, you're a racist. I mean,
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obviously. But if you're for immigration, this is what's amazing with this hate literature.
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If you're an immigrant yourself, or if you're a descendant of immigrants, you are a settler.
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And so you're racist, because you're a colonialist oppressor against Aboriginal people. I swear to God.
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This piece of hate mail that came into my mailbox, at my expense, calls everyone in a riding a racist.
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You're either an anti-immigrant racist, because those are apparently the only people who oppose
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open borders. I'm guessing Aboriginal folks who don't like settlers are therefore racist.
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Or if you're pro-immigrant, you're a conquering colonial settler racist.
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No. I think I know who the racist is. The doddering old white woman who looks at people
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and only sees their race. Let me read some of this crud to you, lest you think I'm exaggerating.
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Like I say, this is the very first thing in her district-wide mailing. It's almost the only thing,
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the racism part. She's obsessed. Or maybe it's Trudeau who has commanded all of this
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his MPs to smear all of their citizens in the same way. I only know the hate mail that was
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delivered into my mail. So here's what it said. It said,
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Last month, it was quite alarming to learn in an ECOS poll that about 40% of Canadians feel there
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are too many immigrants coming to Canada, in this huge country, with almost 90% of Canadians living
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within 100 miles of the American border and all-time labor shortages. It seems remarkable that anyone
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could believe we will not need a robust immigration system to increase our country's productivity
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and prosperity. I'm serious. She wrote that. Or someone in Trudeau's office did, probably.
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Well, yeah, we all live within 100 miles of the U.S. because the northern part of our country
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is uninhabitable. It's too cold. It's too cold for people. It's too cold for agriculture. It's too
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far north to be economic. It's too hard to develop. I think all those problems are made worse
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by government policies. But whatever the reason, we live close to the U.S., we just do. Is she suggesting
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that new immigrants would or should or could all move to Iqaluit or Inuvik or Whitehorse? What an
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idiot. Is she suggesting that new immigrants just off the plane from Syria or Somalia or just across
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the border from the U.S., like thousands of Haitians who came up, is she suggesting they're the economic
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backbone we've been waiting for, that they're doctors and engineers and architects? Yeah, no,
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they're not. 90% of the Syrians Trudeau brought over were functionally illiterate and the vast
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majority remain unemployed to this day. Even Trudeau's new plan of a million migrants in the
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next three years, almost half of them under the plan aren't economic. They're either more refugees
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or bogus refugees or they are family reunifications, basically grandparents coming over who don't work
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but will go straight on to pensions and straight into our hospital waiting lines as seniors. So yeah,
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no, we don't need plane loads from Somalia to keep Canada working. I mean, it will depress wages
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to bring in underskilled workers. So yeah, I guess maybe that helps, you know, get cheap later. You
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get the worst of both worlds. Rent's going higher and wages going lower. But please stop calling me
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a racist. And the other 40% of Canadians who think you're out of control, we're not racists.
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Bennett goes on a bit, quoting Frank Graves. He's a longtime anti-conservative bigot who
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is a pollster too. He once counseled the liberals to paint the Conservative Party as bigots
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just to provoke them, just to provoke a culture war for the benefit of the election. I mean,
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the guy is not a real pollster. He's a push pollster, a provocateur, a major Liberal Party
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donor. But get this, get this. This is from Carolyn Benson's memo. Immigration Minister Ahmed Hassan,
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himself a refugee from Somalia, responded to the poll by urging,
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we must remind ourselves that Canada benefits from immigrants regardless of background and that
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when faced with misinformation, we must fight fear with facts. Yeah, no, no, you can't say that
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everyone is racist except for you and that everyone is stupid except for you. So I'm going to fight your
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fear with my facts. Immigrants who do not speak the language, who don't have our skills, who don't
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have our cultural values, they are not working out as well. It's not racism. It's got nothing to do
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with color. I mean, what do you think of this guy? What would happen to a gay couple in Gaza?
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They executed according to Islamic law. Islam doesn't endorse gayism. Islam doesn't endorse
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homosexuality. Okay, so would you like to see Sharia law in Canada replace Canadian law?
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At some point it will. You know, because we have families, we are making babies. You're not.
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Yeah, the problem with that guy is not the particular hue of his skin. It's probably not even
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with his skills. I got to tell you, that guy actually sounds quite articulate and I think
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he sounds educated. It's that he's a crazy, un-Canadian madman who wants to stone gaze to
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death. Oh, and he's a bit of a deceitful, dishonest, law-breaking liar too.
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When I went for my so-called oath, I was silent. I didn't say anything. It was your responsibility to
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make sure you got it out of me. So when I didn't say anything, I'm not liable to any.
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Did you catch what he said there? He boasted that he stayed silent during his citizenship
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ceremony when he was supposed to say the oath of citizenship. He laughed saying,
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ha ha, it's your fault for not making me say it. I didn't say it, nanya. I didn't make the promise.
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So he's a law-breaking liar. But then Bennett's letter pivots. You're a bigot if you don't want
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immigrants by the million of any sort. But if you're cool with open borders, unlimited immigration,
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say if you live in a gated community like she does, send your kids to a fancy private school
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so there's not a lot of Somali gangs or burkas in your school, you're still a racist. I mean,
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that's the title of Bennett's mailing, racism. She writes, we have made many mistakes with respect
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to the settler attitudes of superiority, which create a dark chapter in our history and untold
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image damage to first peoples. We must not make new mistakes by pulling up the drawbridge
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and allowing racism and fear of the unknown to hold our country back. Well, hang on. Are you saying
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that we are settlers? Like we are, but people who come over here now are not settlers? How are we
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settlers but not new waves of unlimited immigrants? Settlers implies that we built the place from
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scratch. New immigrants don't really do that. They just sort of move into an apartment or maybe
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the raddest Toronto East Hotel paid for by taxpayers. I don't know. Okay, let's open the
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brochure up now. It's actually a montage of pictures of, surprise, Carolyn Bennett playing
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the great white savior like the character Daenerys Targaryen from Game of Thrones, this beautiful
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white-haired white woman who will be the queen savior to all the minorities who rely on her to
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white-splain for them. It's sort of pitiful, really. There really aren't any just Canadians in her mind.
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It's everyone in their little ethnic grievance group. She just doesn't see a Canadian.
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Just this grievance and that grievance. Let me read from her letters section, which you absolutely
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can bank on are from real people, I'm sure. Here's a letter that she says,
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she says in the letter, she says, I urge you to establish a national strategy to counter online
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hate. It is now widely known that the perpetrator of the heinous attack on Pittsburgh's Tree of
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Life synagogue was active in promoting anti-Semitism on social media. Similarly,
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the recent atrocity that took place at two mosques in Christchurch should remind us of the dangers
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posed by those who use the internet to promote mass violence. Well, hang on. What's the problem?
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Is it hate, a natural human emotion, or is it violence? Because so far, this household mailer is,
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well, it's full of hate. I think it's helpful for Carolyn Bennett to blur hate and violence,
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isn't it? Because you can call anyone you disagree with hateful. Her first sentence says that 40% of her own
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voters are haters or racists, that she hates them or whatever. But then she just conflated it with
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violence, actual murder. And I know why she did it, because who could be against stopping murder?
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So she blurs the two. So she can use heavy laws to shut up mere political disagreement. She said
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this, let me read some more. She said, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism, hatred and violence are not welcome
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anywhere. And they are certainly not welcome in Canada. We must stand together in the face of hatred
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and discrimination and denounce it wherever we find it. But hang on. David Menzies founded that
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Al-Quds Day protest in Toronto, I showed you, not far from Bennett's writing. There were hundreds and hundreds
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of crazy racist haters right there, and not a word against them. No banning them, no arresting them,
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no demonizing them, no mentioning them at all. They're clearly racist. But plans to bring in so, so many more
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migrants, because who wouldn't want more bright lights like that guy who said he tricked his way
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through his citizenship oath as bringing in more folks like him? The last page, the last page has a
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few events in the district, and it wraps up with this note. She says, we need to call out racism in
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all its forms. We need to have the courage to correct misinformation. Social media is a powerful tool,
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and we need to use it to promote inclusion, tolerance, and evidence. I say again, liberals actually don't call out
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extremism in immigrant communities because they're vote-shopping there, especially for excitable
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types, like that Pakistani fellow at the Al-Quds rally who wants to stone gaze to death. But look
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at the premonition. Social media. We need to correct misinformation on it. Hey, hang on. Hey, hey.
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I thought you were talking about stopping violence, which I'm all for. Then she talked about hate. She
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hates me. This is a hateful letter. Hates in the eye of the beholder. Hates a human emotion. But hang on.
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Now, now, now she's saying that she's going to correct misinformation? I mean, she's a purveyor
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of misinformation. She just called 40% of Canadians racist for not wanting unlimited open borders
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immigration. That's not misinformation for her to smear you, apparently. But if you push back
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at that smear or her smear view of some imperialistic settler, well, that's misinformation. We've got to
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stop that on social media. By the way, I don't think Carolyn Bennett wrote a word of this. I think
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she's perpetually distracted and a bit clueless and out of it and maybe is past her prime. Here's
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our friend, Kian Bextie, asking her a question the other day. And her answer is just to stammer
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a bit and run away to a safe place. Take a look. Minister Bennett, Minister Bennett, would you be
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able to tell me what you spent $300 an hour on in consultants for the Missing and Murdered
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Aboriginal Women Commission? You're way too close. You don't have an answer?
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Yeah, no, I think this brochure was written by the 2019 Justin Trudeau campaign team. I call
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it hate speech, but Trudeau calls it his campaign talking points. Get ready for a brutal five
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months, you racists. Welcome back. Well, one of the things we talk a lot about on this show is
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deplatforming, particularly in the new public square, which more often than not is social media,
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digital deplatforming, having your Facebook account, your Twitter account, your YouTube
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account shut down. It's bad enough when you're a person with a normal account, but imagine
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being a political spokesman, being a company like us with 1.2 million YouTube subscribers. Well,
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with a flick of a button, that can be ended. It's also deplatforming takes place in physical venues
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too. We ourselves had a cruise canceled when George Soros funded activists complained to the
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cruise company. But what about just plain old shunning, a denormalization of even saying you
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support, let's say, Donald Trump, the personal vilification and demonization that comes at you,
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not even from strangers, but sometimes from your own family and friends. Well, joining us now
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to talk about this troubling phenomenon is our friend Joel Pollack, the senior editor at large
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at Breitbart.com. He's got a new article called conservatives face the great shunning over
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Trump. Great to see you again, Joel. Good to be with you. You know, you are in a city that is
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Democrats, as most big cities in the United States are. There are some parts though, especially in
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California and New York, where even just saying you might be amongst the 60 plus million people who
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voted for Trump, you're treated like, in the olden days, they would have said like a leper.
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You're treated like, as you say in your article, like you just said, oh, I should tell you I'm a
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child molester. Like it's that kind of a shocking, repulsive, friendship-breaking thing to say.
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Right. I was quoting Tom Wolfe, the late, great American author, who said that when he suggested voting
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for George W. Bush, this is, by the way, 15 years ago, long before Trump, he suggested voting for
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Bush. He said, I may have well have said I'm a child molester. You know, it's amazing how the
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tolerant left shows complete intolerance toward political dissent. You often want to ask people,
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what part of a two-party system don't you like? What is it about opposition that really bothers you?
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And when you put it that way, they're a little bit embarrassed, and then they want to
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talk about how they really do care about the ideas from the other side, but it's just the
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extremists that make those ideas unpalatable, or it's the corruption, or it's Trump, or whatever
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it is. But basically, the left in this country has practiced this kind of behavior for a long time.
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They've shut themselves off into an insular bubble, and if you dissent, you are shunned. So we're seeing
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that in Silicon Valley and the tech companies, which are deplatforming people. We're seeing it in social
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behavior. And what I wrote in that article is that actually will have an effect on public opinion,
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that if enough people are conforming in this way, and they're attacking the non-conformists,
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or those who conform insufficiently well, in other words, you're not democratic enough,
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not left-wing enough. You might still have voted for Hillary Clinton. Look what's happened to Alan
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Dershowitz. I mean, he voted for Hillary Clinton. He just said he would vote for Joe Biden,
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possibly. But he's off the reservation as far as Democrats are concerned, because he has defended
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Trump, not because he is a Trump voter or Trump supporter, but because he is a civil libertarian
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and has defended parties, has defended candidates from both parties and presidents from both parties
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against the erosion of their own civil liberties. So Dershowitz has made this case. I remember him
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making it for Bill Clinton in the 1990s. I went to an anti-impeachment rally when I was a student,
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and Dershowitz was there making the same argument. So he's actually consistent. But the Democratic
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Party of today has shifted so far to the left. And of course, if you're not down with the struggle,
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if you're not on board with the program, you can be ostracized. And many people are.
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And very few people have the personal resources or confidence to face their peers and say,
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I actually think about things differently than you do, and here's why.
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Yeah. You know, part of it is it's so ubiquitous to be anti-Trump that people who are very shallow
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in their interest in politics, I mean, I confess I'm not deeply interested in sports. If I would
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avoid the subject, but if I'm pressed on it, I would probably just repeat the last thing I heard
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someone smarter than me say, you know, like my son, for example. So my point is, the way I am about
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sports, a lot of people are about politics. So if all you hear is a shallow message track,
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Trump is racist, I'll make America great again, hat is racist. And you never really think about it.
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But when when the issue comes up, you just say, Oh, I know what to say. And so it's the casual
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ubiquity of it that that becomes the normal way. Yeah, we all know that everybody knows it. And you
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could never press anyone on that because their belief in it is so shallow. They've never tested the
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theory themselves. But they're not in the theory testing business. They're severely normal people
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who don't think about politics more than a few times a year. I think that there comes a point
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when you denormalize something so much, it's like cigarettes. And well, of course, we're against
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cigarettes. Of course, we're against littering. Of course, we're, you know, there's certain things
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that they get past the tipping point. I think that's what your article says. Am I right?
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Right. And this has been a phenomenon in democracy in the United States since the early 19th century. I
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mean, Alexis de Tocqueville talked about the importance of public opinion. He saw it as a
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force of social stability. But he also said it could be a force of conformity. And not only does it
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keep people silent who disagree, but it actually changes their minds. If you are so used to hearing
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things put a certain way, you will begin to look at things differently than you might have looked at
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them otherwise. Many of our opinions come to us from other places. Very few of us sit and
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contemplate. Very few of us have time to contemplate what we actually might think about a particular
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issue. If we did, we'd probably have better political conversations. But people just don't
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have the time and don't have the energy and don't want to engage in these kinds of arguments. And so
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they just find political parties are a neat approximation to what they might think, even if it's not exactly a
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good fit. And therefore, people basically conform to wherever the party is going. Now, that can be
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useful also. Again, as Tocqueville himself said, there is some use to that. I'll give you an example.
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The flexibility on trade that the Republican Party is now showing is entirely due to Donald Trump
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basically saying, we need to think about tariffs. The party had been essentially the party of free
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trade. Democrats had been more or less the party of protectionism, although there were sizable
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differences in both of those parties. Certainly the Democratic establishment was for free trade,
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even if many of the Democratic voters were not. But it took a President Trump to impose tariffs on
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China. Part of the reason he did so and was able to do so was that the people most badly hit by these
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tariffs are the farmers, not because the tariffs affect the farmers directly, but because China's
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retaliatory tariffs are striking our agriculture sector. And if Trump hadn't had the support of the
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big farming states, if he hadn't had that depth of conservative support, he would not be able to
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weather the political storm that would have erupted from the imposition of these tariffs and the
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countermeasures by the Chinese. So in a way, it takes some amount of social persuasion to bring
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everybody on board with something that society arguably needs to do to confront the threat of
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Chinese economic dominance. You needed Trump and people around Trump essentially to kind of create
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an environment where it was okay to conform with this because previously it was not.
00:23:15.600
But at the same time, you don't want people to be drowned out who are at odds with the current
00:23:19.520
policy for whatever reason. And what's happened in the United States, again, it's not new, it's been
00:23:24.240
going on for 50, 60 years, but it's especially acute now is that the media, Hollywood, the academy,
00:23:33.840
even elementary schools, communities, people are shunning those with pro-Trump opinions. Again,
00:23:39.100
not because there's anything wrong with those opinions. In many cases, Trump is doing what
00:23:42.380
every other president of both parties has promised to do to get tough on China, to move the embassy
00:23:47.920
to Israel, so forth. He's doing all of those things. People ought to be happy that he's doing them
00:23:53.100
regardless of how they feel about him personally, but they don't even see that he's doing those
00:23:56.660
things because you're not allowed to see Trump in a certain way. The conformity that's being imposed
00:24:01.500
actually changes the way people think about the world. And I do think that's going to have an effect
00:24:05.820
in 2020. Whether it's decisive, I don't know, but it is going to affect things.
00:24:10.360
You know, it's funny, you just made me think that in Saskatchewan, one of the most, I mean,
00:24:15.060
every province is Canadian, but I can't think of a more Canadian place than small town Saskatchewan.
00:24:20.180
There was a story we did a few weeks back of a teacher who made someone wearing a Make
00:24:25.560
American Great Again hat, stand up in class, and be abused by the teacher, and the teacher
00:24:32.580
invited other people to abuse. In Canada, in Saskatchewan, small town Saskatchewan, that is
00:24:38.980
the proof of the reach of this denormalization. But there's another reason why I think it works,
00:24:45.540
because of course both sides of the debate are trying to persuade the other. But there's a
00:24:51.460
difference in tactics and in threat and punishment and pain. If you wear a MAGA hat, a Make America
00:25:02.000
Great Again hat, to school in Saskatchewan or on the streets of Manhattan, people will hurl abuse at
00:25:09.520
you. Maybe they'll even physically abuse you. They might spit at you. They might swear at you.
00:25:13.380
It will be an incredibly personally stressful experience. Whereas if you wore a Hillary Clinton
00:25:19.880
shirt, you might get the odd snicker or heckle, but the intensity of the threats and the energy
00:25:27.180
directed at you, and I'm not just saying that because I'm on the right, I just think it's
00:25:30.480
a fact that one side is far more punitive than the other. The shock tactics of the left,
00:25:38.240
the professional violent paramilitaries of the left, the Antifa thugs in Canada, we have our versions
00:25:43.980
of those. I think that's an important part too, that psychological conditioning. I want to go out in
00:25:49.600
the street and not be abused, so there's no way I'm going to identify as a Trump supporter.
00:25:54.040
No Hillary Clinton supporter ever has to say that.
00:25:57.980
Right. I mean, I have neighbors who wear t-shirts with obscenities on them attacking Trump,
00:26:05.500
and they walk around the neighborhood and nobody stops them and says, hey, there are kids here. Do
00:26:09.340
you think you should be wearing a shirt like that? I saw a guy at the local coffee shop wearing a shirt
00:26:14.320
that said, deport ICE, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency. They wear those shirts without
00:26:20.960
fear of anybody stopping them and asking them about it. And that's fine. You know, people shouldn't be
00:26:25.560
accosted for their political views. People understand these views are out there. Fine.
00:26:29.200
But if I wear a Trump shirt, first of all, not only would I be probably kicked out of places,
00:26:36.140
but also people would stop and tell me I shouldn't do that. And it's happened to me,
00:26:41.160
even though I don't wear political clothing everywhere I go. I mean, I very rarely wear it
00:26:46.800
at all. I prefer other clothing and that's okay too. But, you know, I get stopped by people who
00:26:52.160
know what I do for a living and they attack me or accost me. A few are actually curious and want
00:26:56.760
to have a discussion and that's always welcome. But, um, you just can't have conservative views
00:27:02.520
and be left alone if those views are known. And it's considered socially acceptable for the left
00:27:09.520
to, and for liberals to basically single out those with conservative views and interrogate those
00:27:14.880
views, mock those views. A former neighbor came up to me on the street the other night and said,
00:27:20.200
boy, you guys are getting the short end of the argument lately, aren't you? I had no idea what
00:27:23.280
he meant because in my mind, Trump's doing very well. So he's obviously trapped in a left-wing news
00:27:27.940
bubble where every new story that's anti-Trump is added to the list. And surely this list has to be
00:27:34.360
growing so long that the weight of the list itself, if you put it on paper, it should be
00:27:38.600
enough to sink Trump. Um, why would you presume to, to, first of all, start a conversation that way?
00:27:44.140
But secondly, why would you presume that I agree? I don't see the world the way you do. I don't support
00:27:50.240
the candidates you do. So maybe I would look at things a little differently. Maybe you would be
00:27:55.280
interested in that perspective. The funniest thing about it is that they don't know they're in a
00:27:59.580
bubble. And when the world doesn't work out the way they think it ought to, they're incapable of
00:28:06.160
understanding it. And so they invent conspiracy theories like Russia collusion. I mean, this week
00:28:10.220
and last week, you know, it's all about what Trump said about foreign interference in the election,
00:28:16.300
or actually specifically what he said was what he would do if a foreign government offered him
00:28:21.360
information about his opponent. He said many things in response. One is that he'd listen to it. The other
00:28:26.000
is that he would probably go to the FBI, or he might throw the person out of his office. But it
00:28:30.400
was reported as Trump willing to accept. And all Trump did was basically say what every politician
00:28:35.700
would do. I don't think there's a single politician who would not at least find out what the information
00:28:40.000
was. And we know that Hillary Clinton actively solicited this kind of information. So they're acting
00:28:46.960
like it's a big scandal. But of course, if you ask Hillary Clinton, and if you ask James Comey about
00:28:52.800
what they did about it, when the Clinton campaign went to Christopher Steele and Russia and so forth,
00:28:58.480
you can't ask that that's that's interfering with with the investigation of Trump, we're talking
00:29:02.320
about Trump here, we're not talking about some other prince. So just to kind of round things out,
00:29:08.560
basically, we've accepted and allowed it to become acceptable to challenge conservatives. And I think
00:29:14.880
it goes to something very deeply rooted that isn't even political. And maybe I should have said this in
00:29:18.720
the article, but essentially, we have delegated the responsibilities of governing to conservative
00:29:25.520
parties, conservative leaders, basically, we expect them to be the parents, they are the grownups.
00:29:31.040
And the liberals are entitled to be the teenagers in constant rebellion, the teenagers will point out
00:29:37.840
everything that the parents do that is wrong, that is unfair, or not like what the other kids have,
00:29:43.360
or seems overly punitive, or not helpful enough. And there's this constant argument going on.
00:29:51.440
Essentially, it's like living in a household with an adolescent teenager, basically, or being an
00:29:55.040
adolescent teenager, writing with your parents. But that's the nature of this conversation.
00:29:58.800
The Republicans are the mommy and daddy party, and the Democrats are the bored, angry teenager party.
00:30:04.640
And, you know, sometimes a teenager will bring up flaws that the parents do have. And sometimes
00:30:09.840
teenagers will invent things that are new and interesting that parents wouldn't have thought of,
00:30:13.280
or they'll think of a new way to do something. And it's very valuable. But a lot of the time,
00:30:18.080
it's just infuriating. And, you know, if the parent finally gives in, gives the keys to the car to
00:30:22.560
their angry teenager, well, sometimes the teenager wrecks the car. And yet the rebellion continues. So
00:30:28.160
that that's, that's the kind of dialogue we have right now. And of course, parents in that situation
00:30:32.800
always feel like they're the ones who are, you know, people are allowed to beat up on, you can't tell
00:30:37.440
your teenager to treat you with respect, if you do, they just storm out of the house. It's, it's that kind of
00:30:42.960
dynamic. And I think that we repeated that in our political parties, essentially, the Republicans are
00:30:48.320
the responsible adults, and Democrats, the rebellious teenagers. And, and, hey, you know,
00:30:52.400
our popular culture is all about celebrating that rebellion, rock and roll, rap music, you know,
00:30:56.880
whatever else it is, we enjoy. It's about that, that insurrection. And it's not about the ordinary,
00:31:03.040
boring, plotting business of government, except to a few of the new left intellectuals who are kind of
00:31:07.920
nerdy and into that sort of thing. I'd sort of put Pete Buttigieg in that category. I think one of the
00:31:11.760
the reasons he walks around without a suit jacket is because he's trying to counter that image of
00:31:16.880
himself. He's the, you know, he's the kid who became mayor at a young age. And now he has to
00:31:20.480
remind all of, you know, the left that he's still sort of down with the struggle. He's not really one
00:31:24.000
of them. He's not one of the squares. He takes off his suit jacket. But basically, that's what we've
00:31:28.160
got. We've got the adolescents versus the parents. Well, Joel, you got nothing on us here. We got Justin Trudeau
00:31:33.440
as our prime minister, and you just have no clue. I want to, very interesting things you said.
00:31:42.640
Joel, we're rebranding our company in a few weeks. We're coming out with a slightly different name
00:31:47.200
and a logo and a motto. And I don't want to give it away yet. It's, we'll be announcing it on Canada
00:31:53.440
Day, which is July 1st. But it goes to what you're talking about here. I'm excited about our,
00:31:58.960
our new sound look and feel. Because people have forgotten that there are more than one side to the
00:32:08.320
story. In Canada, we have a position, the loser of our election is called the leader of the opposition,
00:32:16.480
or actually Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition. Which, if you think about that strange and archaic title,
00:32:23.840
it's very meaningful. It means you are paid to oppose. You're paid to criticize. You're paid to
00:32:29.040
differ. But you're loyal to the country and the queen. You're just fighting with the guy who beat
00:32:35.280
you in an election. But you both love Canada. And we've gotten to the point, in Canada even,
00:32:41.200
where any dissent, oh, no, no, no, you're not allowed to oppose. There's only one narrative.
00:32:46.160
Even though the position is called the leader of the opposition. I mean, I know you have similar
00:32:50.720
language in the States, but I think it's very vivid when you call yourself Her Majesty's Loyal
00:32:56.400
Opposition. We're losing that up here too. Well, we've never really had that here. We don't have
00:33:02.640
sort of constitutionally enshrined opposition office. In South Africa, where I worked for several
00:33:08.080
years, the leader of the opposition is actually mentioned in the constitution. So, you know,
00:33:12.880
there's this tradition in the British Commonwealth of enshrining that position of opposition. I think
00:33:17.680
if you read John Stuart Mill, he talks about how opposition is sort of a natural force in democracy
00:33:23.200
that protects liberty in a representative system. We don't really have that. Our constitutional
00:33:29.200
opposition comes from our federal system and the separation of powers, which is a very big part of
00:33:35.200
our constitution, I think more so than in other democratic systems. And that's sort of the inbuilt
00:33:41.840
opposition. But, you know, in our legislative chambers, we have the minority leader,
00:33:46.240
House minority leader, Senate minority leader. They have certain prerogatives. They don't have
00:33:50.720
many. And in both the House and the Senate, the majority wields enormous power. The Senate has the
00:33:57.760
filibuster, which is a break or was a break on the power of the majority. But essentially,
00:34:03.200
the leaders of the parties in their respective chambers exert incredible power. And much of the
00:34:09.280
opposition to whatever the government happens to be doing comes from outside of the institutional
00:34:15.280
structure. That's why you almost always see the response to the State of the Union address in
00:34:18.880
the United States being delivered by a local politician or by somebody outside of a Capitol
00:34:24.960
building or something like that. The opposition comes from outside government. It's not seen as part
00:34:30.240
of the system. You know, it's outside the executive or outside the legislative. It's basically dispersed in
00:34:36.800
a bunch of different places. But I don't know whether that really makes much of a difference. I do think
00:34:42.960
the interesting thing that has happened since Barack Obama was elected, and I saw it for the first time
00:34:49.760
with the Tea Party movement, the left has started to call people with whom it disagrees un-American.
00:34:57.280
And I was struck by that the first time I saw it. The first time I saw it was when the Tea Party
00:35:01.200
movement started in the summer of 2009. Nancy Pelosi calling it un-American, saying that people were
00:35:05.440
showing up with swastikas at town hall meetings, which wasn't happening. They called it un-American to oppose
00:35:10.400
what Obama was doing. Now they call it un-American not to oppose what Trump is doing. They have thrown
00:35:15.040
around this term un-American for a decade. It struck me as interesting because the Democrats, of course,
00:35:22.160
always tell the story of how terrible the McCarthy hearings were in the 1950s and 1960s,
00:35:27.280
the pursuit of communists by the House Un-American, the House Un-American Activities Committee,
00:35:33.200
who act or whatever. But essentially they called communism un-American and they pursued anyone who
00:35:39.360
was a communist or a fellow traveler in what many people today would regard as a form of political
00:35:44.640
persecution. I mean, who really cares? Yes, we had a Cold War enemy, but that attempt to stamp out
00:35:50.320
dissent is a really dark chapter in our country's history. But Democrats have revived the language of
00:35:57.120
that chapter. And they now use terms like un-American with gay abandon, no pun intended.
00:36:03.200
You know, under George W. Bush, they probably marched behind banners like dissent is patriotic.
00:36:09.040
But now if you dissent from their view, you are not a patriot. You are basically treasonous. I get
00:36:13.920
that all the time on social media. You know, how much is Russia paying you to support Trump? You know,
00:36:19.680
those are a few anonymous people. But essentially that's the message of the party, that if you don't
00:36:23.600
oppose Trump, you are somehow un-American or in fact a traitor to the country. So I see Democrats
00:36:31.040
embracing that kind of language in the same way that they have embraced the military as a sort of,
00:36:37.680
not for what it's supposed to do, protect the country from enemies, but as a model for the economy.
00:36:44.080
You often start to hear militaristic language. There's a kind of fascism that's creeping in.
00:36:49.040
And I don't think Democrats are aware of it. And again, if they listened to criticism,
00:36:53.200
if they could hear how they sound to other people, they would probably be more reluctant. But they
00:36:58.400
don't step outside that bubble. And it's because the mainstream institutions of education, of media,
00:37:02.880
and of popular culture are all controlled by the left. And that comes back to our original point.
00:37:07.280
This is the great shunning. They basically don't even want to hear from people who have a dissenting
00:37:12.000
view. It disturbs them so much to hear that dissent that they just try to block it.
00:37:16.640
Hmm. Well, Joel, you're very generous with your time, and we love your words of wisdom and great
00:37:20.960
insight. I do, however, enjoy telling you Canadian horror stories for you just to
00:37:27.520
shake your head at. And permit me to close with 30 seconds. I should tell you that this week,
00:37:33.040
a member of Her Majesty's loyal opposition, a duly elected member of parliament, and the word
00:37:38.400
parliament, as you can see, the root of it comes from the French word parley, to speak.
00:37:43.120
Parliamentary privilege, you have, it's your duty, you have these extra powerful rights to speak
00:37:49.600
without limit. Anything said in the parliament is immune to litigation, for example. You can't
00:37:56.000
sue someone for defamation with the same parliament. A member of parliament from St. Albert, Alberta,
00:38:01.280
named Michael Cooper, who quoted the manifesto of the anti-Muslim terrorist in New Zealand to rebut
00:38:09.280
a false accusation about it by a Muslim lobbyist who said he was conservative. Michael Cooper said no,
00:38:15.920
he revered the Chinese Communist Party. Here's the quote. That quote by an elected parliamentarian
00:38:24.320
on the official opposition was deemed so odious by the governing Trudeau party that they not only rebuked
00:38:33.440
him, but they deleted it. They voted to delete what was said in that committee and erase it for all
00:38:42.400
time, throw it down the memory hole because it was, according to one of the government MPs,
00:38:48.560
it made the committee an unsafe space. So even a member of Her Majesty's loyal opposition
00:38:56.240
cannot speak out against the dominant narrative in a parliament. That happened in Canada this week.
00:39:02.640
Amazing. Well, you know, this whole notion of safe spaces is, again, part of the shunning. Your
00:39:09.200
point of view is not just disagreeable to me. It's not just something that makes me upset. It is a
00:39:15.200
physical threat to my health and safety and therefore it must be shut down. That's part of the justification.
00:39:20.880
It's over. Yeah. Well, it's crazy times. You keep up the fight down there, my friend. Thanks for
00:39:25.120
everything. All right. I will. All right. There you have it. Joel Pollack, senior editor at large at
00:39:40.080
Hey, welcome back. What did you think about this mailer that I got from Carolyn Bennett?
00:39:45.280
I think it's crazy. I mean, I live in a very multicultural, multiracial
00:39:49.120
neighborhood and no one talks this way. Nobody. Nobody's calling each other names. Nobody's saying,
00:39:55.360
oh, you're a racist if you want open borders. In fact, I'd put it to you. Most immigrants to Canada
00:39:59.360
think Trudeau's open borders stuff is nuts. I know that to be a fact because according to Angus
00:40:04.800
Reid, only 6% of people want larger immigration numbers. So obviously, a lot of visible minorities
00:40:12.080
and new immigrants hate it too. They're not racist. And no one's calling each other settler. That's just a
00:40:16.320
weird thing. I used to live out West and have a lot more interaction with Indians, including on
00:40:22.800
reserve. I've never heard that. That's a white girl talking, trying to... It's like a super white woman
00:40:29.600
reading the lyrics to a rap song. It's just so unnatural. But I think that this is a premonition
00:40:35.120
of Trudeau's election campaign. Everyone's a racist. And if you're not a racist, you're a settler. And if
00:40:40.080
you're not a settler, you're a sexist. And if you're not a sexist, you're an Islamophobe. And if you're not
00:40:44.240
an Islamophobe, you're a homophobe. And between all those, we've got you covered at least one way.
00:40:48.160
So shut up and let Justin Trudeau censor things. That's what this is. Well, folks, that's the show
00:40:53.040
for today. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
00:40:57.360
good night and keep fighting for freedom while you still can.
00:41:20.400
Of course it is, we're going to try that question.
00:41:24.000
Some people all go for a while, so we're going to come on the right.
00:41:28.160
We're going to give it to you and we're going to stretch them up.
00:41:38.960
But then finally, everyone, as you push for the money,