SHEILA GUNN REID | All parties in Saskatchewan want control over gun laws
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Tracy Wilson of the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights (CCFR) joins me on The Gun Show to talk about the gun grab by Justin Trudeau's federal Liberals, and why we should all be glad it s not snowing in Saskatchewan.
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all the political parties in Saskatchewan are standing up to Justin Trudeau's federal
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gun grab I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gun Show
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Saskatchewan remains one of the sanest most pragmatic places in all of North America and I
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say this as an Albertan you know we sort of have a bit of a friendly sibling rivalry on a lot of
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issues we like to think that we're cooler and more conservative here in Alberta but most of our
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good ideas are stolen from our very wise down-to-earth friends in Saskatchewan and I hope
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we steal this next really good idea that came out of the Saskatchewan legislature last week let me show
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you this tweet from Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe one of the sanest politicians in the country
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he says last week in the legislature a motion was passed unanimously calling on the federal
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government to devolve all parts of the Firearms Act to the province of Saskatchewan in order to
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allow the province to administer and regulate legal firearms possession our government remains
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committed to protecting the rights of law-abiding firearms owners and will continue to stand up
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against Bill C-21 that's Justin Trudeau's gun grab while supporting initiatives aimed at the legal use
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of firearms in our province a motion from Carrot River Valley MLA Fred Bradshaw calls on the federal
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government to devolve or pass on responsibility for all parts of the federal Firearms Act to the
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province so it can administer and regulate gun possession itself and this motion was passed with a rare
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unanimous yes vote in the Saskatchewan legislature that means all parties agreed including the Saskatchewan
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NDP in fairness the Saskatchewan NDP seem a little less radical than their federal counterparts or even their
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counterparts here in Alberta and this speaks to the culture of Western Canada that we are remarkably different
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from some of the other parts of this country even when it comes down to our progressive parties
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they understand sometimes sometimes what their voters are asking them for now joining me now to talk about
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this very happy development out of Saskatchewan and a bunch of other things on the gun control agenda of
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the federal Liberals is my friend Tracy Wilson from the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights
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so joining me now is my friend Tracy Wilson from the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights and she is in my beautiful
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province however the weather is not cooperating today uh Tracy thanks so much for coming on the show
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there's a bunch of stuff I want to talk to you about but let's talk about why you're in Alberta because
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the reason you're in Alberta is a reason to join the CCFR so tell us a little bit about what you're
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doing here despite the horrific spring snowstorm weather yeah I know I was a little devastated to wake
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up this morning and see the snow but you know whatever I'm just happy to be out here in the land of
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the free in Alberta but Rod and I both flew in last night and we are here in beautiful Calgary
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to take our friend Jeremy Johnson he was the winner of our best day ever contest we're taking him out
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we're going to head over to the Calgary Shooting Centre this morning we're going to go shoot some guns
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play with some full auto he's got a five thousand dollar shopping spree to buy whatever he wants guns
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gear gadgets whatever it is then we're going to head over to the shooting edge we're going to do it all again
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more guns more shooting there's axe throwing there which is really fun I'm going to kick all the boys
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butts and then he gets another oh yeah I love it and then he gets another five thousand dollars uh
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shopping spree over there and then we'll debrief tonight over an awesome steak dinner and just talk
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about what was his best day ever so this was he was the winner of a contest you know we've got a it takes
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money to fight these people and we did a fundraising contest and this is the uh the grand prize so
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I feel kind of lucky because I get to join him and watch him uh just have the most amazing day
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he's a great young lad from Moose Jaw Saskatchewan so yeah pretty fun it does sound like the best day ever
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yeah right 10 grand on on whatever you want steak dinner to wrap it up hanging out with Tracy and Rod
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um this shooting guns shooting guns sounds great um yeah now I want one of the other reasons I wanted
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to have you on the show is that we just got news that the gun grab has been uh once again delayed
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until 2025 and you and I frequently joke you know the guns were so dangerous that they had to be left
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in the hands of law-abiding Canadians for five years from the date of their ban that's right guns so
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dangerous that you're forced to keep them for five and a half years minimum right so and it's funny that
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they've kind of extended this out towards the next mandated federal election so you know it kind of gives
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nod to the fact that this is purely political um but yeah it you know this is a big crazy idea that
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was born out of the political opportunity of the Nova Scotia shooting they capitalized that on that
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and the grief that Canadians were going through um the problem is they had no idea how to do it
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I've said right from the beginning it's virtually impossible and here we are they still have no clue
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what they're going to do nobody wants to touch it and I'm perfectly happy with that yeah but that
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doesn't stop them from spending money on it oh yeah I think the national post reported they say
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the national post reports it as Ottawa but I'm like that's the federal liberals don't don't blame it on
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the city um but Ottawa has already spent 42 million dollars on their liberal gun buyback and I use big
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scare quotes when I say buyback because you know federal government didn't own these guns in the first
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place so there's they've spent 42 million dollars they haven't taken thankfully this is one of those
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those times where I cheer for government ineptitude they haven't taken a single firearm from the hands
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of law-abiding Canadians and yet you know like they're just blowing money on this thing left right
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and center oh yeah and they've budgeted I think 30.4 million dollars over the next two years on this
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program which you know is a considerable amount of money but it's also a strong indicator that they're
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not actually going to buy any guns because that number would be in the hundreds of millions if not
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billions so it's the it's just the running of the bureaucracy of a program that does not even exist
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is costing taxpayers tens of millions of dollars a year and for what you know that money would be
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better rerouted focusing on stopping the flow of illegal guns across the border but hey call me crazy right
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yeah I was just reading uh this national post article and uh thankfully you know a good friend to the
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firearms owning community senator don plett uh he was the guy behind getting this data
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there are 60 uh public safety department employees working full-time on this just think about the
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difference that 60 extra cops in a city like toronto would make instead we've got pencil pushers uh trying
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to justify their existence in a cubicle in ottawa somewhere yeah and i mean meanwhile um they they
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still have no idea how to do it but you're right think what 60 cops could do out there for public safety
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or 60 more border agents um to uh you know do the um what do you call it like investigations like
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search through cars and rail cars and all the things coming across the border you could not just find
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illegal guns but you could stop drugs you could stop human trafficking like there's all kinds of
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benefits to public safety to focusing your resources and your attention on the things that really matter
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but this government is intent on focusing it on legal gun owners instead and meanwhile there's
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they've had zero success and yeah i also am cheering their incompetence yeah go government
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incompetence for once in my life um we're also finding out a little bit about some of the companies that are
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wanting to become involved in this and some of them that actually have become involved in
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uh the buyback program for example ibm was awarded a 2.27 million dollar contract to develop design
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and implement the program which nobody's done yet so that's okay um shocking but but who else is
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involved in this that we know of well they've tried the liberals have tried really hard to get canada
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post involved and it's sort of been a big hoopla in the media again which is funny because they
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declined two years ago so it's not really news um but it's been dragged back up into the news cycle
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by the anti-gun lobby groups who of course are losing their minds that the doors of gun owners aren't
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being kicked in yet um and canada post is once again saying forget it like they are not equipped for um
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a program of of this caliber you're talking about half a million rifles i like i can't even imagine
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what that looks like right so yeah it would be incredibly unsafe and uh for everybody involved
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and yeah nobody will actually touch it law enforcement has refused the army's refused so
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yeah ibm's happy to of course spend a whole bunch of money developing a program um but nobody's there to
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to carry it through so yay yeah and you know i'm glad you touched on the numbers of firearms that are
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potentially affected by this um i think we we'd have a tough time ever even coming up with an estimate
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i think yours on the high end is probably right the federal government however says that the there will
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be and the numbers like the the distance between their low and high end are like miles apart um that uh
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between 10 000 and 15 000 newly prohibited firearms are in the hands of canadian businesses and anywhere
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between 125 000 and 200 000 are owned by licensed individuals uh but on the other hand how the heck
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would they ever know because many of these firearms moved from uh non-restricted so you were just allowed
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to own them all the way over to prohibited uh and there's really no record of that firearm so i don't
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know how the government could know how many sks's are out there like they're they're just guessing at this
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point yeah well and they intentionally lowball it because then when if it ever does get off the ground
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when participation is low and they only manage to scrounge up 100 000 guns they can you know claim that
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it was some major success that's exactly what happened in new zealand but there's 97 000 legally
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owned ar-15s in this country alone and that's one of two thousand one yeah uh right models and variants
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that they banned right so i know the csaa did some work using import records because although the majority
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of the firearms that that were banned in 2020 other than the ar-15 were not registered so they're not
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they have no idea who's got them where they are and how many are out there however import records um
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used by the csaa they came up with a number of about 518 000 firearms affected and i think that would
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probably be far more accurate than bill blair lowballing some number to make their failure look
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more like a success right well and i think too besides hiding their failure by lowballing their numbers
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i think it also hides the cost of the program yes because you know when they're saying to the
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canadian public who sometimes in the urban centers they really don't know any better um and that's no
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that's no slight on people in urban centers we have a lot of firearms owners in urban centers
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however you know like it people might see guns as the the crime in that's the guy shooting up the
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playground instead of the sports shooter out plinking ducks in a field on an early morning
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um but it does hide just the sheer cost of this oh yeah when you lowball it and you will only say that
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it's about 20 of the actual cost and so you know i think this is going to be a fiasco akin to the gun
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registry where they said it would cost you know this amount and then it cost this amount yeah and didn't
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stop any crime at all yeah i think this will this will be so monstrous that it will dwarf the
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boondoggle that was the long gun registry so that was um they said it would cost about two million
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dollars and save lives and stop crime it ended up swelling to over two billion dollars
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never solved a single crime never prevented a single crime even the liberals say they don't want to bring
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it back because it was such a miserable failure um yet here they are willing to do something
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that i honestly it would dwarf the um you know the failure of the long gun registry
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by five-fold easily yeah now i wanted to talk to you i mean this news is like a year old but i want to
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i'm sort of headed towards talking more about saskatchewan with the rest of our
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interview and saskatchewan they've gone one step further whereas alberta and saskatchewan have both
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said we will not direct our contracted rcmp resources to kick in the doors of law-abiding canadians
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in our provinces because we are dealing with a spate of crime thanks to justin trudeau's uh
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lax bail uh policies his uh revolving door criminal justice system his uh permissive uh rules around
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drugs and like hard drugs um and so we're dealing with the societal and social fallout of that we
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don't care about about law-abiding firearms owners so saskatchewan and alberta said that nearly right
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away they said we're not we're not having our cops participate in this saskatchewan last year went
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one step further and said look if you are one of those opportunistic businesses maybe like your ibm
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and you want to participate in the gun grab get yourself a healthy government contract you're not
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doing it on our watch if you want to participate in this you have to be licensed by the province
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to do it and uh that you cannot be taking federal funding so um basically it makes it nearly impossible
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for any saskatchewan-based business to participate in the gun grab they'll have to find somebody from
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outside the province if the feds are going to do it there i thought that was great oh yeah i think
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that's great and the other thing with both alberta and saskatchewan requiring them to have a special
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like confiscator license that would only be uh be given by the province it sort of rests with them
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it's like you need a license to do this and you have to get that license from us how many of those
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licenses do you think would be approved i think that's the idea right it's like it's like the uh
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imagined license that you're never going to get so yeah i i think it's wonderful and then very recently
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last week uh saskatchewan government the whole of government and all parties uh agreed to a motion
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wherein they demand the devolution of the firearms act so the federal firearms act they want control of
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administering it um which is a great way of taking this i guess existential power if you're a gun owner
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away from the federal government and it was wonderful to see the ndp in saskatchewan break
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ranks with the federal ndp who are basically just acting as the socialist caucus of the liberals at this
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point yes the ndp in saskatchewan and it pains me to say this they are they're more pragmatic than
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the ndp in the rest of the country and uh they know what side of their bread is buttered yeah
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well and i think you know traditionally before the far left style of ndp that we have now the ndp was
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kind of the party of the little guy right the working man the you know the salt of the earth
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type people and that's a really good way of describing what gun owners are um so it is nice
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to see them kind of go back to their roots at least in saskatchewan um but yeah i mean i there's been a lot
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of debate over the last week about this idea of scrapping the federal firearms act devolving it to the
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provinces which would be kind of more of an american style um model where listening yeah
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right where firearm laws vary state by state it would be like that here province by province
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you know and then of course you've got provinces like quebec where gun owners would just be
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hung out to dry right i mean the the quebec government would love nothing more than to can
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continue kicking their law-abiding gun owners right in the teeth so you know there's some i got some
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thoughts on that um but more than anything i think it sends a really clear message to ottawa
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just on how badly they have screwed up this entire file they've lost the faith of the provinces of all
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parties in the provinces and i think in general canadians who are sitting back going what like
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what is even going on because you would have to be absolutely blind to not see that while the liberal
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government and the ndp screw around with legal gun owners you've got crime and violence raging out
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of control in the city streets across this country you know they're telling you to leave your keys by
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the door so so intruders can come and steal your car yeah like put your tv in the trunk yeah we've got
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these soft um soft bail policies right police are screaming for change i mean the whole thing is just a big
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big mess right and it's i think average canadians are really seeing that now like do you feel safer
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canada has never been more violent than it is now and yeah this this whole thing will be just adding
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more fuel to that fire um of people being disgruntled about the way the liberals are handing
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handling the whole public safety files so yeah i got i got feelings either way about devolving it
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could go good or bad depending where you are and of course i'm worried about all my friends across
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the country um but yeah kudos to saskatchewan for consistently standing up for their citizens and
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that is their job government forgets sometimes that they're the servants not the masters and that's
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really nice to see yeah i mean i guess it could become a provincial voting issue then all of a sudden
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and we know how well mobilized firearms owners can be um when it becomes a voting issue i mean it was
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one of the reasons stephen harper won yeah back in the day is because the firearm zoning community
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mobilized and after he said he would scrap the gun registry and we all said okay okay let's do it
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let's do it and so i mean if it becomes a provincial voting issue then uh provincial politicians will
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suddenly become accountable to that highly motivated voting block of the firearm zoning community
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yeah and i think you would also see a really big shift in where people live you know i mean i i don't
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know it would almost be one of those perfect filters where you know you would have kind of gun owners kind
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of a mass exodus out to the prairie provinces and you know screaming anti-gunners maybe they would
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nestle down in quebec and ontario and i don't know maybe that would be okay too you know you know albert is
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calling yeah yeah it sure is now i wanted to talk to you about one of the things that
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the ccfr does that i think is one of those rare things in modern society uh because it uh appeals to
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that awful thing of toxic masculinity uh you've got the gunny girls calendar and you've got a call out
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going yeah that's right so this is a fun project and yes every year i love it i take all kinds of flack
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from you know uh pearl clutching women taking a ride on their fainting couch over it right we do
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a calendar and the idea behind it was when we first started the ccfr i wanted to do a national women's
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program where you know the vision was having range days all across the country and we could take
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thousands of women every day or not every day but every year to gun clubs across the country let
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them try the shooting sports expose them to it and also influence their voting patterns and the
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problem was we had very humble beginnings at the beginning of the ccfr and rod said yeah you guys
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should totally do that but find a way to fund it so we were sitting around the table drinking wine on
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a cottage weekend and thinking well how can we as a bunch of girls get together and raise money for
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our own project and i was looking across the table at some of the most beautiful talented amazing women
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that i've ever met and i was like you know i would love to put you girls with your cool guns
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in a really classy calendar it's not your you know it's not a beach babe calendar there's no bathing
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suits these are you know classy beautiful photos of really cool women with amazing firearms in some of the
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most beautiful locations across the country and every girl in it is just your average gun owner
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you know i mean i'd like to think we're above average but these are average girls who just
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show up for the weekend with a bag full of stuff we have these big sleepover parties at cottages
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and we go out into the wild and take these photos and you know it comes together and it looks like
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this professional product so much so that i get accused of using models and i'm like
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no literally these are just the girls at the club you know um but yeah so every year we do a call
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out for that you can find that stuff on my social media and yeah we just ask send a couple of
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pictures and a little bit about yourself um we've had girls anywhere from 18 up to 60 uh every color
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shape and size and you know it just sort of to me it highlights the amazing women in our community
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coast to coast and then yeah i end up with about you know 40 to 50 thousand dollars a year
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that i can spend on range days to influence more women to come into our sport so it's just this
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perpetual adoration of each other and women lifting up women and yeah i do take flack for
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it but i let that roll right off my back because to me it's probably one of the most meaningful things
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i've done and yeah i think they i think they are all supermodels in their own right and i love to promote
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them yeah i mean it's for women by women yeah men get to buy it if they want uh but it showcases just the
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the severe normalcy of the women in the firearms owning community we're not fringe radicals despite
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what justin joe might say we're moms we're business owners uh we're sports shooters we're outdoorsy
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sometimes we're not even outdoorsy sometimes we just want to go to the comfortable indoor range um
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you know like we're not weirdos we're just like everybody else in the community and that's what i love
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about the uh the calendar is it really showcases who and what we are and it's really fun for the
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women too like we've had some women who have tried out i i remember one uh girl in alberta actually
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sitting out in her car at the airbnb and i'm waiting for her to come in finally i went out to
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see if she was okay and she was crying and she was really nervous about coming in and she had a really
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crappy ex who had told her you know you're never going to make it into that calendar you don't belong in
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it and i have to say her pictures turned out to be some of my favorite and she is a far cry from the
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from the woman who was sitting in her car crying that day now she's just you know kicked the door
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open on a new life and yeah we're all we all remain friends after and we do events and we just have this
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big tribe now of these really powerful women and i love it i love it and yeah if the uh radical feminists
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want to get mad at you great i'm sure you care as little as i do uh yeah tracy tracy uh tell us how
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people can get involved with the canadian coalition for firearms rights you're doing great things there
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you're fighting with the government oh yeah i'm bringing you're bringing legal challenges against
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the federal government all the time uh you're not just uh a lobby group you really are a vehicle for
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change yeah so you can find um us and all the cool things we're doing at ccfr.ca um there's a
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little button there that says why join and it's a running live list of everything we've done it's
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really long so there's a button that even says skip to after the gun ban because you know that's kind of
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the more juicy recent stuff um yeah you can find all the the stuff about us there um propertyjustice.ca is
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sort of our sister website where you can find all the legal action the court challenges the charter
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challenges all the work that we've done in the courts to fight this government and their their
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unholy attack on uh legal gun owners and of course we've got a huge youtube channel lots of resources
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on there a bi-weekly podcast and a national tv show on wild tv called ccfr radio on the air and of
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course follow my twitter because it it's always spicy yeah it is it's fun yeah and you guys have one of
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the best merch stores uh for your cause in canada and even in north america i think it's just cheeky
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and fun and uh really great products there yeah thanks i take a lot of pride in that our team just
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kind of figures those things out on our own we've got a small group um we're always looking for more
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volunteers you can send an email to volunteer at ccfr.ca and come and join the team and help us out and
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yeah we're we're uh we've grown a lot in the last eight years and we are a big national powerful
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group and it we're going to do some really great things and strike fear in the hearts of the liberals
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which i love so much tracy thanks so much for coming on the show i shouldn't keep you any longer
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because you have the best day ever ahead of you yeah i'm gonna go to the range right now go shoot
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some guns and help this guy spend some money awesome all right thanks sheila thanks we'll have you
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on again very very soon well this is the portion of the show that is dedicated just to you dear
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viewer because without you there's no rebel news we would never take a penny from justin trudeau to
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do the work that we do here at rebel news which means we rely on your support so i want to know what
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you have to say you know unlike the mainstream media who only seem to care what justin trudeau
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thinks about them we actually worry about you at home and are we giving you the other side of the
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story do you have an opinion to share share it with me send it to me via my email sheila at rebelnews.com
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put gun show letters in the subject line so that i know why you're writing to me because uh
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like i get a fair bit of emails and some of them are cantankerous
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but don't let that be the bar for entry for example if you are watching a free version of
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the show or a clip of the show over on rumble or on youtube and you've sat through an ad before
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the show or the clip i appreciate you for doing that i just want to make sure that the show is available
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and if you have watched us there maybe leave a comment in the comment section
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on rumble or youtube i do go looking over there sometimes and that's actually where today's comments
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come from they're on my show from last week with my friend chris sims from the canadian taxpayers
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federation and we were talking about the catastrophe of the inflationary federal budget
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apparently the budgets don't balance themselves eight years later so anyway the first comment
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comes from canuck one on rumble and he says i'm an average middle class canadian for the last few
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months the total amount i pay for the carbon tax on my gas bill is more than the actual amount of the
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natural gas that i used yep so go tell that effing liar to stick it where the sun don't shine like a
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true psychopath he lies through his teeth which with such conviction that he managed to fool a whole bunch
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of dim-witted canadians devout followers no doubt you're obviously speaking of justin trudeau who tells
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us that if we give him more money for the cost of everything by the way because the carbon tax is added
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on every step of this supply chain but if we give him more money he will cycle it through the hands of
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a thousand bureaucrats who have done nothing to create or build wealth and then suddenly give you back
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more money through the magic of liberalism it's crazy he says that people will get back more than what they
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pay but how can that possibly be when you're paying as our friend here points out more in carbon tax than
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you have on the gas itself however i will take a slight disagreement with you when you say that
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uh the people who justin trudeau fooled with his lies are his devout followers they may have been but i
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think the shine has come off that pricey little bobble and there are many people who are just fleeing
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the liberal party either as members or voters to a more common sense conservative approach
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i think people are finally finally seeing through the lies there are many of us who knew that justin
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trudeau was a a liar and unqualified from the very beginning it just took some people i think in the
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eastern parts of this country a while to learn it but stephen harper's campaign slogan directed at
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justin trudeau was he's just not ready looks like he was not ready and will never be ready after eight
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nearly nine years of learning on the job he still has not learned on the job and i don't think being
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a prime minister is the thing you should actually learn on the job actually let's do one more it's from
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chickadee roses who writes always remember we must always remember that we must take everything that he
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says justin trudeau and turn it 180 degrees to get the real truth like when he says he's a feminist but
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he was grabbing journalists and with the old kokanee grope or how he says that he's an anti-racist but
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he's the guy who did blackface how he says he's not divisive but he's the guy who gets up in front of
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journalists and calls six million unvaccinated canadians uh fringe radical white supremacists
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yeah you are right he is a guy who projects what he is his character flaws on other people because he
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thinks we're all just as awful as he is so with that title we should be reading that the carbon tax
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will not impact the people with giant mansions and indoor swimming pools i think most of us already
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know this yes justin trudeau said that uh you won't feel any impact of the carbon tax unless you
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have a giant mansion and a bunch of cars and a bunch of indoor swimming pools again that's how
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he lives that's not how the rest of us live and people with giant mansions and lots of cars and
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indoor swimming pools they can afford the carbon tax it's the rest of us who can't well everybody
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that's the show for tonight thank you so much for tuning in i'll see everybody back here in the same
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time in the same place next week and as always don't let the government tell you that you've had too much