Brad Skatismus from Five Times August joins me on The Gunn Show to discuss the Truckers' Convoy, Cancel Culture, and The Culture War, and his new single This Just In about Justin Trudeau's cowardice and fragility.
00:01:10.780They ever before used Emergencies Act to seize their property, their businesses, their trucks, and their money, and ultimately arrest and hold them for weeks.
00:01:19.100But people who are lucky enough to live outside of the dome of the bought-and-paid-for mainstream media that has descended on this country, well, they had a very different take.
00:01:29.460commenters from the uk australia europe the united states they saw the truckers convoy for what it
00:01:35.540was a peaceful uprising of people who did something for themselves when all the systems they thought
00:01:40.660they could rely on to protect them had failed during the pandemic and all those outside
00:01:46.120commenters well they saw something else too they saw justin chudeau for what he is a soft-handed
00:01:51.460authoritarian thug who doesn't care about human rights at all someone who exists in an ideological
00:01:56.360realm somewhere closer to chairman mao than the magna carta all this is to say that i'm excited to
00:02:03.820have on my show tonight brad skatismus he's an independent musician who has a brand new single
00:02:09.460out it's called this just in and i think it is an incredible depiction of justin chudeau's cowardice
00:02:16.900and fragility so joining me now is brad skatismus in an interview we recorded yesterday morning take a
00:02:23.940listen so joining me now from dallas is brad skatismus you might know him as five times august
00:02:34.000and i wanted to have brad on the show even though he's been on the show before or on the network
00:02:39.120before with andrew chapados um i wanted to have brad on the show um because brad has a brand new
00:02:45.660single out about the convoy but before we get to that in case people are sheila fans and not
00:02:53.860specifically andrew fans and so you might be a new face to some of the people watching the show why
00:02:59.560don't you tell us a little bit about yourself yeah uh my name is brad skatismus i started five times
00:03:06.640august when i was 18 so i've been writing recording releasing music for over 20 years now and um
00:03:13.600just this last year um i started releasing a series of sort of uh acoustic protest songs
00:03:23.320kind of hearkening back to the 60s but in a new way with a new perspective
00:03:27.760and um it sort of changed the trajectory of my career and um it's been interesting to say the least
00:03:35.140yeah your music has a bit of a i don't know i'm not a music expert i sort of exist in 1970s and
00:03:42.620early 80s country um but it has sort of a blowing in the wind kind of vibe a little bit that sort of
00:03:48.260protest um that protest vibe um what was it that prompted you to sort of make the switch
00:03:56.040what was it the one thing that you saw in the world that caused that for you
00:04:00.720um it was kind of just the world in general and and at the end of uh at the end of 2020 and sort of
00:04:09.600looking around wondering you know is no is nobody is are no none of my peers in the music industry
00:04:15.260going to speak up and do i want to look back on this time thinking you know wondering did i say
00:04:21.020anything did i do anything did i and i didn't want my kids to to be left behind in in the world that was
00:04:27.560sort of showing itself and so i felt like i had to do something um and music is my tool so um i i kind of
00:04:35.960chose to jump off the platform and piss off a bunch of fans and uh lose some and then gain a whole bunch
00:04:43.360a whole new crowd of people that i love and appreciate and who get me and i get them and it's
00:04:48.620been a wild ride but it's certainly been worth it yeah i've spoken to a few artists and and people
00:04:55.020along those lines who have said that you know i i felt like i had to do something and i had
00:04:59.600if being authentic means that i lost some friends and some fans but i was right by myself and right
00:05:08.060by god then that was the only thing that i could do yeah and these these songs have really been sort
00:05:14.820of a spiritual partnership too i've i've come to find because the first one i released was called god
00:05:19.440help us all and it was sort of a prayer in a sense of like look what we've become and you know
00:05:26.020what else do we have left but to ask god to help us out at this point now um tell me about your new
00:05:35.000um single because it's called this this just in and it's convoy inspired which i think is fantastic
00:05:43.260tell us about it and what inspired you to make that um so this just in is it's sort of a play on words
00:05:51.980it's um taking aim at justin trudeau and i was following the the ottawa convoy stuff online um
00:05:59.840as it was happening live and i was just i i loved every second of it because this was the way to
00:06:06.860peacefully protest and i felt like um it was it was changing conversation and i was fascinated by the
00:06:14.820idea that like this whole thing was live streamed by everybody who was there um you could see what was
00:06:21.060happening as it was happening and you're seeing the bounce houses and these unifying moments of
00:06:26.860singing and song and um at the same time the media still have the gall to turn it on its head and make
00:06:34.360it out to be this evil thing and then the leader of the country bails on these people and doesn't even
00:06:42.360talk to them and and and runs away and says i've got covid or something and then runs away um
00:06:48.600and i just found that fascinating i was really just inspired by um the convoy in general and um i had
00:06:58.460other projects i had been working on at the time at the beginning of the of it all um to show some
00:07:05.420support and by the time the police got involved it it sort of changed the tone and i had to sort of set
00:07:13.020those aside and i came back around and wrote this one which which um it takes aim at justin trudeau but
00:07:20.200at the same time is also a message of support for the canadian freedom fighters and and just to say
00:07:26.160you know keep going and keep standing up for what you you know what you believe in yeah i sort of got
00:07:31.780uh the sense that the title of the song was also a play on just how bad the media was yeah exactly
00:07:39.080yeah and and that too that's what i liked so much about the title was like we're so media driven
00:07:44.420right now that you know this just in is kind of you know it's a common phrase to hear but it paired
00:07:49.200so nicely with uh trudeau that i couldn't pass it up yeah it was really interesting and fascinating to
00:07:55.940see how the media lied about the convoy just so shamelessly even though they knew more people were
00:08:03.640watching the live streams or the work of our journalists here at rebel news live on the ground
00:08:08.500they knew more people were consuming that that bit of news more than people were turning to the
00:08:15.920mainstream media for the truth about the convoy yet they still continued to lie they still continue
00:08:21.560to say that it was this violent misogynistic white supremacist uprising when you're looking around and
00:08:28.860you're saying bouncy council count castles there's shinny hockey there's you know it's far more diverse
00:08:36.020than the mainstream media if you're checking demographic boxes and who does that but the
00:08:41.560mainstream media sure does i mean the crowd was diverse it was peaceful and yet the media were sort
00:08:49.440of behind this push to crack heads and the government was more than happy to oblige
00:08:55.020yeah it's amazing i mean the the most beautiful clip i saw from the whole thing was um it was
00:09:03.080literally people holding hands in a circle from all walks of life singing we are the world
00:09:08.280yeah and i'm like how when do you ever see this in life and and they still made it a bad situation
00:09:14.660and in january i i got the same experience i was in um washington dc for defeat the mandates
00:09:21.200which is a huge rally 35 000 people were there we were on the steps of the lincoln memorial
00:09:26.340it was a beautiful day um we marched peacefully we didn't have any run-ins with with uh police or
00:09:34.040anything um it was one of the most unifying experiences of my life but then you read what
00:09:40.120the media reports about it and you're going i was there yeah like you can see what happened
00:09:46.480and it's just astonishing that they have this this control and the gall to still push a narrative
00:09:54.020no matter how blatantly wrong they are you can see the truth for your own eyes and it's frightening
00:10:00.440that people still even believed it afterwards they have the truth right there in front of them we all
00:10:05.800have the truth in front of us but people will still choose to sort of turn a blind eye they don't
00:10:11.100want to admit that they're wrong yeah it's really something to see the media then complain
00:10:16.000about mean tweets and how people don't respect them and how maybe they might get called fake news
00:10:22.580out in the public and they can't they don't get it they don't get why the normals are saying yeah you
00:10:31.060are liars because i can fact check you in real time with my phone on facebook or twitter or instagram
00:10:39.140live you can literally fact check the mainstream media and they are lying to the public and when the
00:10:44.880public tells them they're liars they get offended about it it's really fascinating to watch yeah
00:10:50.220there's a complete disconnect um it's kind of this idea like we're living in the information age
00:10:56.180right literally in the information age everybody can do the job of a journalist if they really want to
00:11:01.880they can get out in the street they can document what's happening they can put it online
00:11:05.780um and you know y'all are doing the real journalist's work you're doing you're you're you're out there
00:11:14.920you're showing what's true then there's this other side of the journalist i don't mean to say that
00:11:19.200anybody can be a journalist but you know what i mean sure yeah it's it's a thing you do it's not a guild
00:11:24.340you join right and so it's not that you can't walk into it and go like well i have the job so i get to
00:11:32.020say what's true and what's not yeah yeah it's uh it's a weird day and age that we're living in and
00:11:39.460it seems as though the people are early adopters of good ideas and are embracing the new media and
00:11:45.960the new way of disseminating information and the journalists of old they are hanging on um with an
00:11:54.740icy grip to the stranglehold they think they have on the information that the people need to consume
00:12:00.780yeah and it's kind of like i compare it to like an old sitcom or something from
00:12:06.540the 80s or 90s where like if you used to watch saved by the bell and zach morris would tell a lie
00:12:12.580at the beginning of the episode and then he had to keep doubling down on that lie until it crumbled
00:12:17.920on top of him that's what they're in right now it's like they they've cried they craft a narrative
00:12:23.800and then they have to keep doubling down triple down on it and keep it going because they they can't
00:12:29.520go back on the lie until it just crumbles and then they just pretend like they never even said it at
00:12:34.120all which is the most even more fascinating than anything yeah we're seeing that right now with um
00:12:39.740oh with the vaccines so they said oh you know just get a vaccine and it's going to stop the spread
00:12:45.820that's it you get it'll stop the spread you won't get the you won't get coronavirus if you get the
00:12:50.640vaccine and now they're saying oh we totally never said that it just means that you won't get it as bad
00:12:54.480oh yeah that's the conversation i have all the time i've supposedly i've supposed to have died
00:13:00.880like 20 times by now based on the conversations i've had and then when i say well you know i
00:13:05.340actually had uh somebody will say to me online um you know good luck on that ventilator and i'll say
00:13:11.200well i actually had covid and it was two days of a headache and sweats and then i moved on with my
00:13:15.640life and then they backtrack and they'll say well nobody said that you were good you know they do the
00:13:20.360same thing like well it wasn't going to be that bad for most people and it's like well
00:13:23.940choose your lane and stick in stay stay in it that's what i've been saying well you know it's
00:13:30.620it's funny when all of a sudden these people get in an argument and they come around to your way
00:13:35.960of thinking just you know two years later you're like you just called me a liar 10 minutes ago but
00:13:40.760whatever yeah um now i wanted to ask you because you are a musician
00:13:45.960and pop culture is very woke and now the the it sort of seems like the prevailing counterculture i
00:13:56.200was talking to somebody at a protest about this over the weekend you know the renegades and rebels of
00:14:01.980music um they used to be you know literally renegades and rebels and now the renegades and rebels of
00:14:10.740um pop culture they're the traditionalists they're like yeah i'm i don't cheat on my wife i have three
00:14:17.280kids i go to church what's it like for you to exist in that space uh it's bizarre because i always sat on
00:14:25.520the outskirts of the sex drugs and rock and roll lifestyle i i thought from afar and i thought well
00:14:31.960that'll never be me i'm just you know i'm just too clean of a guy that's not my lifestyle i'm
00:14:38.180married i'm a dad who cares about his family and and that's why i'm speaking up now and
00:14:43.420simultaneously i'm being called dangerous and a misinformation spreader and like to be called
00:14:49.660dangerous at this point is is a joke because you know what i've never done anything dangerous in my
00:14:55.740life um and and the it's fascinating because the people going through this particularly in
00:15:02.840entertainment and stuff you have these relationships with people that you've developed over the years
00:15:07.040um that i had friendships that spanned all kinds of different ways of thinking that you know you
00:15:13.920accepted everybody for who they were and i sort of stayed in my middle lane and appreciated everybody
00:15:19.540the moment i started speaking out about what was important to me a whole you know left side of my
00:15:26.400relationships friendships associates had just dropped off i wasn't you know i wasn't part of that group
00:15:32.760anymore um and these are people that are supposed to know who you are and know what your actual values
00:15:40.540are so by the time you you know i was saying these things through my songs i had expected a little bit
00:15:47.200more conversation and back and forth and well why do you feel that way but instead it was just a door
00:15:53.440slammed shut and like i can't believe you've become one of those loonies and um these are this is coming
00:16:00.740from the side that's supposed to be empathetic and understanding so it yeah and that tolerance is
00:16:07.020you know pretty extreme to shut somebody out like that yeah it's very again it's so strange to see
00:16:15.180this side that preaches tolerance not even realizing that actually it's you you've been tolerant the whole
00:16:22.080time because you sort of sat in the middle heard everybody from this side heard everybody from that side
00:16:26.660made up your mind didn't write anybody off but the second that you stepped in one direction or another
00:16:32.620you're just cut right off everything they knew you to be none of it mattered because your politics
00:16:39.020didn't align with theirs yeah exactly i mean i had fans that were like i'm going to delete your music now
00:16:44.980um um like you don't even want to ask me like you know what my last 20 years of music has been you know
00:16:52.440what my message is you don't even want to talk about it like the doors open i didn't ask you to
00:16:57.300stop listening to my music you're choosing to do that and if you're going to do it with my music do
00:17:02.400it with every music you listen to then from now on see how that works out for you with every movie you
00:17:07.140watch make sure their values align with every little thing you know like why just me because i'm
00:17:14.040more outspoken about it but if i was saying the the irony is if i was saying what they agreed with
00:17:19.220i'd be getting the complete opposite message thanks for speaking up you're doing the right
00:17:23.820thing i'm going to listen to you more now you know yeah yeah it's crazy no it is weird and you know you
00:17:29.660you see these people in the first one to race off to a mark walberg movie and you don't want to remind
00:17:34.460them that he's like a he's a pro-life catholic but you know but they are he's not as outspoken about
00:17:42.080it as you you know he doesn't hide it but he's not as outspoken as you and yeah they don't apply
00:17:47.540that litmus test to the rest of their life and as conservatives or at least people from the right
00:17:52.200side of the political spectrum we can't do that because there would be so few things in pop culture
00:17:58.280that we could really consume if we had a purity test for every little bit of music we listened to
00:18:04.620or every movie that we watched or tv show um there would be nothing for us there were just right you know
00:18:10.600you and travis tritt and a couple other people that are outspoken about this stuff yeah and a lot of my
00:18:17.400heroes i mean if i had if i if all the music i listened to was based on the morality of those
00:18:24.780people i wouldn't i wouldn't be listening any of them i you know but you you i appreciated the music
00:18:30.380it wasn't about their lifestyle it wasn't about their choices and what they were doing and you know
00:18:34.680there is a line at some point where you're like well they're just you know there's this they're a
00:18:39.480scumbag i'm not going to support their work but everybody has challenges you know there and and uh a lot
00:18:46.000of people in the industry have faced addiction and different things like that but you know
00:18:51.340we're still humans at the end of the day right and you don't have to cut somebody off just because
00:18:57.420they're not exactly who you are that's supposed to be the beautiful thing of life in general is that
00:19:03.060we're all different but you don't you don't end a relationship or or try to shove somebody out
00:19:08.860because they are different from you that's that's one of the lines in um uh recent song that i wrote
00:19:15.660called anti-fascist blues which was yeah segregate i mentioned segregate diversity that's the whole
00:19:21.460thing that's their whole thing is they're they're celebrating and and and chopping everybody into
00:19:27.260these little tiny blocks in the name of diversity but at the same time it's separating every single one
00:19:32.980of us into a little classified labeled group and then they they pick it apart to in a way that
00:19:38.640gets us to fight and argue with each other and so it's it's celebrate who you are in diversity but
00:19:45.080also argue with everybody about that yeah i guess the root word of diversity might be division
00:19:51.300at the end of the day and and i think it's so much of this cancel culture um it's so anti-humanity
00:20:02.940in that it does not allow for forgiveness it doesn't allow for redemption it doesn't allow for
00:20:09.300growth growth and it doesn't allow for um the understanding that as humans we're bad at being
00:20:16.640human like we're not good at this like we're not good at being kind to each other um and and getting
00:20:23.620through life it's you're constantly learning and struggling and suffering but with cancel culture
00:20:29.060there's no allotment for what it means to be a human built into the system you just are pure
00:20:36.160and aligned with this side and the second you diverge you're just in the in the trash can
00:20:42.360yeah it's a very black and white way of thinking and there's no middle ground i think that's where a lot
00:20:49.420of this the the same people in this movement right now fall into that middle ground where they
00:20:55.240understand these things that that there should be conversation and dialogue and that we are all
00:21:01.040different and the idea that we need to uh push everybody into one container of thinking is a very
00:21:11.440dangerous uh way of of moving and and they also don't even realize like when we're all making these
00:21:18.140comparisons of of uh past historical events and like that's where we're going that's where we're
00:21:26.940going when you're trying to say everybody over here needs to be look like this act like this talk like
00:21:33.100this can only say these things that's very dangerous but they don't even acknowledge that uh
00:21:39.060it's wrong it's just right that's the way it has to be yeah all in the name of diversity we all have
00:21:45.580to think the same look the same talk the same use the same pronouns um all in the name of diversity
00:21:51.340um now uh speaking of cancel culture apparently comedy is not allowed on twitter um babylon b has been
00:21:59.440uh kicked off twitter um how long for you and how are you still on youtube by the way
00:22:07.700i don't know how i'm still on youtube several of my videos have been attacked over the last year
00:22:13.380um wikipedia deleted my wikipedia page after oh at least they deleted it usually they just let it
00:22:21.100get polluted with lies right yeah well what happened was i had a fan notify me and said hey it looks like
00:22:28.080wikipedia has marked your page for deletion so um i went over and i personally i was like nobody cares
00:22:34.380about this page i'll update it with all of the most relevant stuff and um they immediately took it down
00:22:40.740or uh took down all the new information that i had posted because apparently i'm not allowed to post
00:22:46.320what's true about me only the people on the back end are and so they they ended up deleting the page
00:22:52.900like i'm taking up valuable real estate on wikipedia of all things some singer songwriter you know like
00:22:59.300yeah it's crazy um but youtube has uh they attacked my video sad little man about anthony fauci
00:23:06.180um for medical misinformation of all right i was gonna say you're not allowed to question the advice
00:23:11.680of a public health officer on youtube it's the bane of my existence because we have to publish
00:23:15.760two versions of the same video one for youtube and one for rumble because of that rule yeah
00:23:20.740yeah and and that happened with um another video of mine the second video i released was called jesus
00:23:26.820what happened to us and essentially the entire video is just raw footage from the last couple of years
00:23:32.680that you can get anywhere it's just compiled and and in a way um but they had that video was up for
00:23:39.380a little bit then they decided to demonetize it then a few months later later they decided to make it
00:23:44.920uh age restricted so you have to be 18 years or older to watch the original edit and it's not even
00:23:50.420it's not even um it's not even a pg sort of experience you know they've just chosen this so i did
00:23:59.120have to re-edit that and i re-edited 11 times until it got through to be monetized again but what was
00:24:06.340happening every time i would edit it because they don't tell you what's wrong with the video yeah just
00:24:11.060say it's wrong and so i would take out a little clip here and replace it and take out a clip here
00:24:17.500and replace and see if it would get through and it would it would just i'd upload it click submit and
00:24:23.020it would already be uh age restricted and demonetized like it like it went through the algorithm
00:24:28.360perfectly on their end and so i had to figure out a way to do that but um you know these are the games
00:24:33.980that they play right now and it's it's part of the part of just the whole experience right now and
00:24:40.040i'm i'm happy to play their game because i think being on those platforms and being loud and obnoxious
00:24:46.140um you know it's it's what they don't want and i was almost gonna i was almost gonna quit um the big
00:24:53.240um social platforms last year um until a lot of my fans were like don't be don't go be more places
00:25:01.640than be you know and and don't go to the echo chambers i'm still on all the all the other
00:25:06.320platforms but like you want to be loud and obnoxious because they're not going to care if i leave
00:25:11.540they'll care if i stay and i and they're at the end of the day they're just social media platforms
00:25:16.420they're not kings so i will say what i want to say until they boot me out and that's what's happened
00:25:21.700with babylon b and and you know it's crazy because what they're doing is they're it's it's art comedy
00:25:28.440entertainment music they're now interpreting art in a way and telling you what you can say as a joke
00:25:36.020what you can say in a song what you can say in a movie um and people don't recognize that they've
00:25:42.960crossed a sub a really important line that we should not never have crossed in our lifetime
00:25:50.080yeah it's um with the stuff with youtube it's almost like self-censorship through onerous terms
00:25:58.720of service where you're just like you know what i cannot comply with these terms of service i don't
00:26:04.560even know what they are anymore so i'm just not even gonna bother that i think is the end goal
00:26:09.860where they can say well i didn't kick you off you just quit uploading yeah because i don't know what's
00:26:15.360okay to upload anymore um but i'm glad you talked about um sort of the the realm of social media and
00:26:24.320pop culture and a conservative or at least a freedom-minded individual's role in all of that
00:26:30.800because i do i do hear that criticism sometimes why are you still on twitter twitter censors
00:26:36.480conservatives and i respond exactly the same way you do because they don't want me there and that's
00:26:41.180how you get more of me i'm like the kool-aid man you don't want me there i'm gonna kick down the door
00:26:44.980and show up and make a lot of noise um yeah but i see that daily wire has taken a bit of a different
00:26:52.900approach i think it's a hybrid approach where they still are on all the other platforms but they are
00:26:58.380creating this secondary sort of parallel ecosystem for conservatives and it's not just
00:27:05.920a media platform it's not just movies they're you know going into merchandise i think they're
00:27:13.120starting their own razor line um because the one that advertised with them was a little too woke i
00:27:18.320think was harry's um what do you what do you think about that is that sort of the way going forward
00:27:23.760where we have to create our own places to be or do we just sort of shove our way into the other places
00:27:29.740and say you don't want me i'm here anyway i i think it's a balance of both of those i think that's
00:27:35.740perfect you know you say fine you know if if you're not going to you know work with me i'll just keep
00:27:41.720charging through ahead my own way i think that what they did with their razor company is is is hilarious
00:27:47.980like okay harry's razors isn't going to work for us well here's jerry's razors and it's a it's a way
00:27:54.760of mocking the whole system that they're part of and they can't stand that and every time they they try
00:28:00.640to uh suppress you anyway and i just posted this on twitter like an hour ago was like you almost want
00:28:06.600to be canceled at this point because it brings more attention to what it is they're trying to suppress
00:28:12.320and that's been my case every step of the way every time they tried to uh keep my message from
00:28:19.000being heard it got even more attention to the point to where i was on the steps of the lincoln memorial
00:28:26.120at this huge rally you know singing my music to 35 000 people in january for defeat the mandates like
00:28:33.880that would have never have happened had i kept my mouth shut and just behaved and it never would
00:28:39.960have happened had every time i put out a video uh somebody over on youtube or twitter tried to
00:28:46.120shadow ban a link or you know hide me from the search results it just keeps stair stepping forward
00:28:51.260i think what you're going to see is it because entertainment and i don't think it's been utilized
00:28:56.560as much as it should in this movement but music and comedy and um and movies are such an excellent
00:29:06.660tool to change the conversation that you're going to see this uprising of um arts and entertainment
00:29:13.720coming up sort of mocking that other side while they make their point on those on those mainstream
00:29:20.460platforms and every time the platform tries to dock it it's going to get more and more attention
00:29:25.660that's kind of what happened with dr malone's interview on joe rogan you know they tried to remove
00:29:30.660it and then everybody goes well what was that interview about what they say and i've had friends that
00:29:35.500have that work in the medical field who they started this whole pandemic wiping down their groceries
00:29:41.660with lysol you know and they have eventually come around they watched that interview and they their
00:29:47.920whole perspective had changed on everything so that's what you're doing you sort of have to let the
00:29:52.600snake eat its own tail i think yeah i just when my enemies are fighting i just want to stand back
00:29:57.680and let them do their do their thing they don't need my help um yeah and it's it's it's funny because
00:30:05.160you know i've sort of a little bit and i probably shouldn't have checked out of pop culture altogether
00:30:12.440like i said i sort of exist in 1970s to early 80s country um yeah because i can't stand the wokeness
00:30:20.800like i don't want to know what my soft drink company or my mascara manufacturer thinks about
00:30:26.600my politics i don't care i don't and i don't want it shoved down my throat but at the same time
00:30:32.320you make an excellent point how do we change the culture if and fight in the culture war if we're
00:30:40.580not actively engaged in the cultural battlefields of movies of music of tv um so i guess i'm guilty of
00:30:50.340walking off the battlefield in some respect and i know that i shouldn't so i guess what what are
00:30:56.480your words of advice to conservatives who say you know what it's just not worth it i don't feel like
00:31:01.340getting canceled today they're gonna call my work what's your advice to those people um to get them
00:31:07.640re-engaged in the culture war um i think it's just a matter of being headstrong and and prepared for
00:31:15.820battle i mean i kind of walked into this thing um not knowing what was going to happen i knew i was
00:31:21.520going to lose fans i didn't know my i didn't really think my wikipedia page would ever get deleted
00:31:27.860because of it you know um stupid but yeah and and look at it from a humorous vantage point because it's
00:31:34.960all so ridiculous um and and i'm just as guilty of it too i really don't pay attention to what's
00:31:42.200happening on the other end of pop culture until it peaks its way through and you see cardi b i was
00:31:48.200just gonna say shizzering somebody on the you know the grammys and you're like that's what's going on
00:31:53.560like loretta lynn would never do that that's yeah that's why i'm over there loretta lynn would never do
00:32:00.240that yeah and i think that there's a trend that's happening where a lot of us that are burnt out on it
00:32:06.640are regressing back to the things that we grew up with in entertainment i don't really watch any
00:32:11.840movies that were made prior to like 2000 and 2000 2000 where i'm at yeah and so i think that
00:32:20.400our generation specifically i think we're going to start pulling back from what's current what's
00:32:27.100modern what's trendy and what's digital for that matter i think that we need to sort of pull back and get
00:32:32.520in and reconnect with what's physical um by your media you know a book or a cd or a vinyl record
00:32:41.360um those things are tangible nation that can't be changed later when they decide that they want to
00:32:49.020change it right um they're orwell safe just because we have the case say that again i said they're
00:32:56.220they're orwell safe like that you can't 1984 hard copy vhs you just can't right exactly and and just
00:33:05.280because like just because we have the ability to live in a digital world doesn't mean we have to
00:33:10.200live in a digital world i think we need to reconnect with what is physical what and um that goes with you
00:33:18.040know money and food and all that stuff we just have to be grounded in reality while the other people
00:33:25.880escape into the metaverse and just let them go because a lot of the people that are angry about
00:33:31.460you know say what i'm saying what you're saying what you're doing they're ultimately going to find
00:33:36.040themselves with a set of in a closet somewhere with a set of goggles doped out of their mind on
00:33:41.140dopamine just focused on the metaverse and we'll be on our merry way yeah and so you know again it's
00:33:47.460kind of like the snake eating its own tail it's like okay you go down that path shame me blame me
00:33:53.240whatever you want but i'm going to stay focused on reality and what's happening and work on a better
00:33:58.420future for my kid yeah yeah these people can have their blue hair and lay on the couch dope straight
00:34:05.440up um on their phone and i'll be tending the garden exactly no um you've been very generous with your
00:34:13.680time and this has been a fun conversation but i'm sure you're a busy guy i know i'm a busy girl
00:34:18.100where can people find uh your work and importantly support the work that you do because you're an
00:34:25.960independent artist and i currently before the um call started here i was putting some merch in my
00:34:32.320basket on your website um especially the i will not be leaving quietly shirt i think that might be
00:34:40.180my favorite um but tell people how they can support you yeah you can visit five times august.com
00:34:46.960it's all spelled out f-i-v-e times august.com for um the videos and links to the music and uh
00:34:54.360merchandise shirts are a great way to support the music um i'm ultimately going to compile all these
00:34:59.500singles into a physical album at some point and we'll have that for sale until then um you can
00:35:04.920support the music through um bandcamp.com five times august.bandcamp um if you want to avoid the
00:35:12.440mainstream outlets although i will say if you love apple or not love apple music but if you like
00:35:17.860apple music amazon spotify um by all means support the music there because when we charge our way
00:35:26.820through these mainstream platforms the latest single this just in that i released on friday
00:35:31.980has topped the singer-songwriter charts on amazon and it's not that i care about the chart position
00:35:37.500itself but it speaks so much about the movement that this is what people want this is how you vote
00:35:42.460with your dollar that this song that is taking aim at a world leader and and uh supporting such a
00:35:50.240important movement that's being suppressed is that is on top with all these other mainstream artists
00:35:57.160that have a machine behind them that's the power that we have um and so you know by all means check
00:36:04.100it out on those platforms apple music and amazon brad i want to thank you so much for taking the time
00:36:09.520to talk to us today and i hope to have you on again um when your next hit single drops well thanks
00:36:16.640for having me today i appreciate it isn't brad just great and he's brave it's brave to take a stand in
00:36:26.120an industry that demands complete homogeneity and i cannot wait to see what brad does next maybe he
00:36:34.880might inspire me to become interested in music from this century anyway if you want to check out brad's
00:36:40.320music maybe buy a little merch i'll make sure that i include the relevant links in the show notes
00:36:45.680tonight so that you can support an artist who actually supports freedom let your dollars do the
00:36:51.680talking well everybody that's the show for tonight thank you so much for tuning in i'll see everybody
00:36:56.280back here in the same time in the same place next week and remember don't let the government tell you