Rebel News Podcast - April 24, 2025


SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Carney’s Carbon Tax Carnival： A Fiscal Fantasy Straight from the WEF Playbook


Episode Stats

Length

50 minutes

Words per Minute

167.73505

Word Count

8,539

Sentence Count

684

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

4


Summary

The Liberals and the Conservatives have both announced their economic platforms. This week, I called an expert to help break it down for us. My good friend Chris Sims of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation joins me to break down the platforms of both the Conservatives and the Liberals, and to talk about the chaos that unfolded in the media room at the Federal Leaders Debate.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Liberals and the Conservatives have both announced their economic platforms.
00:00:05.240 This week, I called an expert to help break it down for us.
00:00:08.820 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:00:10.820 Mark Carney is supposed to be the mature statesman banker replacement to Justin Trudeau's flighty nonsense.
00:00:35.960 But based on his recently announced economic platform, he's going to spend more than Justin Trudeau, $100 billion more.
00:00:46.740 Now, that should come as no surprise because he once told a UK journalist that inflation was a sign of a strong economy.
00:00:58.760 Look at this.
00:00:59.260 We will be in a position where inflation returns more firmly and policy will need to be adjusted.
00:01:06.440 And I'd underscore, though, that that is a good scenario because that means that economies are moving forward.
00:01:12.520 Joining me today to break down the economic platforms of both the Conservatives and the Liberals
00:01:19.080 and to talk about a little bit about the mayhem that unfolded in the media room at the Federal Leaders Debate
00:01:25.940 is my friend Chris Sims of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
00:01:30.500 Take a listen.
00:01:38.220 So joining me now is my good friend that I get to share with all of you
00:01:42.780 and good friend to taxpayers everywhere, Chris Sims, the Alberta Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
00:01:50.140 I wanted to have Chris on for a couple of different reasons.
00:01:53.060 One of them is that she's a former journalist and we just saw the absolute worst behavior I've ever seen in journalism.
00:02:02.640 Well, I guess since I've done this for 10 years, I mean, it was just absolutely unhinged behavior at the Debates Commission.
00:02:11.280 But I wanted to have Chris on also to talk about the two platforms of the Conservative Party and the Liberal Party
00:02:20.700 and I guess Mark Carney's continuation of Justin Trudeau's overspending.
00:02:27.340 But it's actually even worse.
00:02:28.880 Tell us about it.
00:02:30.120 Yeah, big time.
00:02:30.760 So, like you said, I've been in the game for a long time, closing in on 30 years now
00:02:35.700 of covering politics and journalism and being in the arena.
00:02:39.180 I was legit surprised that Mark Carney's team put out a platform like that
00:02:44.960 because if I just try to imagine myself as an average person of like, you know,
00:02:49.860 kind of watching the news a little bit, you're going to go do your due diligence and vote,
00:02:53.060 I would say the main contrast between Mark Carney and Justin Trudeau as, you know, people and politicians
00:03:01.340 and managers is that Mark Carney's that banker guy.
00:03:05.100 He's the financial guy and he's going to be smart with our money.
00:03:08.660 That's the general impression I've noticed that a lot of normal people have of him.
00:03:13.220 Swing voter types that aren't obsessed with politics like you and I are, Sheila.
00:03:16.080 And then to take that and say, you know what, hold my beer.
00:03:20.700 I'm going to, I'm going to like pile more money on the debt than Justin Trudeau did.
00:03:28.460 Like I thought the banker was supposed to be good with money, at least better than the drama teacher.
00:03:33.640 But I guess not.
00:03:34.820 And so that was super surprising.
00:03:36.660 And what was also alarming is two things.
00:03:39.980 One, we do now find out how much he's expecting his brand new carbon tariffs.
00:03:46.540 This is a new thing, totally separate from the carbon tax.
00:03:49.980 How much he expects his carbon tariffs to pull in.
00:03:53.360 Answer, around $500 million is going to be taken from Canadians in the form of his brand new carbon tariffs.
00:04:00.600 And the big omission I noticed in his costed platform was the industrial carbon tax.
00:04:06.660 We still don't have a price tag for Mark Carney's huge, new, hidden industrial carbon tax.
00:04:14.580 So he's going to blow the bank, spend way more money, borrow way more money.
00:04:20.140 The main thing here is racking up so much debt because we're already over $1.2 trillion.
00:04:25.120 He's going to do that.
00:04:26.620 And now we also find the smoking gun of his carbon tax tariffs.
00:04:31.100 They call them border adjustments.
00:04:32.920 So for any of the indie journalists that are following this, if you want to go find it, it's in his platform and it's under border adjustments.
00:04:41.400 And it's about $100 million one year and $400 million the next.
00:04:45.460 It ramps up.
00:04:46.840 So around half a billion dollars they're expecting to take from Canadians.
00:04:51.000 So we're seeing a big spending, big borrowing platform coming from current Prime Minister Mark Carney, which is super alarming.
00:04:59.480 Now, explain these carbon tariffs because I think it's purposefully complicated as so many of these things are so that normal people would just throw in the towel and say it's just the way it is.
00:05:11.380 But it's my understanding that if we are importing products from jurisdictions that don't have a carbon tax, i.e. the Americans, we're going to carbon tax them on the way in the door and that will cause prices to go up for Canadians.
00:05:28.900 So let's say you're buying electronic components from Korea or China.
00:05:36.180 Those are coming in and you are going to pay more for them because Mark Carney is going to inflict a carbon tax on nations that don't have them.
00:05:44.800 Nailed it.
00:05:45.780 So you and I use the language like globalist and banker, and I know a lot of our viewers do, too.
00:05:51.400 I prefer bankster.
00:05:52.760 Bankster.
00:05:53.480 Nice.
00:05:53.740 And this, Carney is this, like with no ounce of hyperbole, like folks can go read his book, Values.
00:06:03.860 It literally has planet Earth on the front of it with scaffolding around it.
00:06:08.820 He wrote it while he was the UN envoy for climate change.
00:06:14.180 Okay.
00:06:14.520 He definitely is a globalist.
00:06:16.720 He has said so himself out loud with his face.
00:06:19.240 And he has been a central banker in not just Canada, but also in England.
00:06:25.180 So this is how he views the world.
00:06:28.240 And to exactly explain what you just said, Carney views carbon taxes as a cornerstone to the future.
00:06:37.900 He uses the term cornerstone in his book repeatedly.
00:06:41.660 And he thinks carbon taxes are so important that he will look around the world, and if
00:06:49.720 he finds a country that doesn't have a carbon tax, he gets upset.
00:06:54.420 Like upset.
00:06:55.660 It's like a moral thing for him.
00:06:57.580 And so he will punish that country with a tariff on their exports into Canada.
00:07:04.660 But the end result is, the stuff you and I have to buy just gets more expensive.
00:07:10.500 And even the liberals are admitting they're going to be half a billion dollars more expensive
00:07:15.920 just over the next few years.
00:07:18.400 So this, again, I have to stress this.
00:07:21.140 This is separate and apart from his industrial carbon tax.
00:07:25.660 He's definitely going to put through an industrial carbon tax.
00:07:28.260 He says so repeatedly.
00:07:29.740 He makes jokes about the idea that we don't use or produce steel, which is totally dumb.
00:07:33.700 We definitely use and produce steel in Canada.
00:07:36.100 But this is separate.
00:07:37.520 The carbon tariff will be over and above the new carbon tax.
00:07:41.980 Well, and let's talk about that heavy emitters industrial carbon tax.
00:07:47.260 We don't know who the heavy emitters are.
00:07:48.980 Is it agriculture?
00:07:50.400 It's definitely oil and gas.
00:07:52.260 It's manufacturing for sure.
00:07:53.780 But if it is agriculture, then food just got more expensive.
00:07:58.820 And, you know, food inflation is driving people to heat or eat poverty.
00:08:03.700 And this is all based on the cockamamie theory that the heavy emitters are just going to eat the increased cost
00:08:13.260 instead of passing it along down to the consumer.
00:08:15.940 Farmers are already price takers, not price setters.
00:08:20.400 We sell into a global market.
00:08:22.100 And so if you add things on the input side, that makes farmers poorer and makes food cost more money.
00:08:29.940 And this guy says he's a global banker, but it seems like he doesn't understand basic economics.
00:08:37.840 Yeah.
00:08:38.200 Yeah.
00:08:38.460 Which is kind of surprising because he went to Harvard and then to Oxford.
00:08:43.140 He's got a PhD.
00:08:44.840 Like, if you look at him just on a resume thing and not look at his policies and what he says repeatedly,
00:08:49.980 you're like, oh, he seems like a pretty smart dude.
00:08:52.280 But unfortunately, you can be super high educated and still have really bad ideas.
00:08:58.680 And in this case, again, this is not something that we're gleaning from like a six second clip somewhere.
00:09:03.920 No.
00:09:04.760 Carney is on the record repeatedly in his book.
00:09:07.120 It's 507 pages long.
00:09:09.460 There's probably eight hours worth of interview going back over the last five years,
00:09:14.980 including on the BBC, long form kind of deep thinky type interviews where he talks about this stuff.
00:09:21.340 And so I'm pleading with people, go talk to your relatives.
00:09:25.980 Okay.
00:09:26.440 The ones who are swing voters.
00:09:28.080 And again, no judgment.
00:09:28.980 I'm a swing voter.
00:09:29.860 Okay.
00:09:30.380 I sit down and I look at all the policies every election and I decide who to vote for personally.
00:09:35.440 Everybody in my family does the same thing.
00:09:37.940 So reach out to your swing voter people and ask them,
00:09:41.880 do you know that Mark Carney is going to ban the sale of gasoline and diesel powered cars?
00:09:48.980 Like starting real soon, like starting next year, I think 20 or 25% of all new,
00:09:55.500 all new vehicles are going to have to be fully electric.
00:09:58.500 This is a huge government mandate that is going to cost you a ton of money.
00:10:02.380 We do not have the infrastructure for this and it's going to affect your right to a private property issue.
00:10:07.900 So Carney wants to do that.
00:10:09.620 Carney wants to keep 80%, 80% of oil and gas in the ground.
00:10:14.620 When you hear him say, I want Canada to be an energy superpower.
00:10:19.160 He does not mean oil and gas.
00:10:22.580 He means wind and solar.
00:10:25.200 How do we know this?
00:10:26.200 Because he says so in his book, he says that 90% of global energy needs should be able to be met by the year 2035,
00:10:35.120 which is real soon, from wind and solar.
00:10:38.320 So you talk to anyone in the energy industry and they go,
00:10:41.640 um, I don't think we have the chemical density for that, for just wind and solar.
00:10:45.980 If you go nuclear, they might.
00:10:48.140 Again, I'm not an energy physicist, okay?
00:10:50.800 But I do talk to them and they always say you have to have both modular and big-scale nuclear into that equation if you're going to go there.
00:10:59.880 And Carney never talks about that.
00:11:01.720 So I would really push the folks who are thinking about, can I afford this?
00:11:06.980 What is my, you know, price point going to be over the next year?
00:11:10.240 He wants to nail fuel refineries with his industrial carbon tax.
00:11:14.680 He wants to hit fertilizer plants with his industrial carbon tax.
00:11:18.300 And this is what jumped out to me, and I know you noticed it too there a few weeks ago, Sheila.
00:11:22.720 He's going to nail things like steel manufacturers so hard that the trade unions are backing the blue team.
00:11:31.860 I have never seen this before in my life, right?
00:11:35.300 And so now we have pipe fitters, my late brothers, Union, the Boilermakers are supporting the blue team.
00:11:42.380 And if these colors were reversed, I'd be saying the same thing.
00:11:45.780 I'm just alerting this to people because I know 50% of Canadians are broke.
00:11:51.480 Like, they're fighting to afford basics.
00:11:53.980 And it is so easy for people who haven't made a mortgage payment in 20 years.
00:11:58.960 They're retired.
00:12:00.080 Their inputs haven't really changed.
00:12:02.160 It's easy for them to not realize how desperate people are getting because it's hard to share that with people.
00:12:07.980 Like, you may not realize that your neighbors or your adult children or their friends are fighting to afford food because it's not something people like to admit, especially working people.
00:12:20.480 So I'm just pleading with people to understand the costs here.
00:12:23.620 And this platform, it was really eye-popping that I saw come from the liberals.
00:12:28.420 Yeah, I mean, there's one thing in there that I did like, and it was that they didn't set aside money for their gun grab.
00:12:37.680 Oh, that's interesting.
00:12:39.900 You know, leave it to the government to be inept and me to cheer for their ineptitude.
00:12:44.960 Because Prime Minister Mark Carney has said that he's going to accelerate the gun grab.
00:12:50.360 You can see that in the candidates that he's choosing, like Natalie Provo from Polly Sissouviant, who was a victim of a mass shooting.
00:12:58.500 But that was, I would, in my assessment, a large-scale honor crime more than anything else.
00:13:05.540 And so we know that he had, and she, by the way, quit Justin Trudeau's gun grab committee when she was a lobbyist and activist because they weren't grabbing the guns fast enough.
00:13:17.060 So she, interesting selection, but there's no money set aside in his campaign financial policy announcement for the gun grab.
00:13:29.780 Maybe they just forgot to put it in.
00:13:31.300 I'm sorry to be a bubble burster.
00:13:32.660 Yeah, no, no, he probably, they'll just write it in, of course.
00:13:34.980 Put that in on the back of the napkin.
00:13:37.000 I will say about the gun grab, because I don't call it the buyback program, because I didn't buy my, I didn't buy my gun from the government.
00:13:44.140 Exactly.
00:13:45.340 I will say, you know, I, I was a journalist for a long time, and I've spoken with everybody, from prime ministers to victims of crime.
00:13:52.940 I have nothing but empathy for the people who lived through things like that.
00:13:57.280 That is horrific.
00:13:58.660 My issue, though, is that when you speak to those who are on the front line all the time, like cops, yeah.
00:14:06.520 It's the police associations and the police unions who are largely saying that law-abiding firearms owners who go through all of the bells and whistles, they jump through all of the hoops, you have to get all of your registration, they aren't the problem.
00:14:21.540 Right.
00:14:21.700 Cops say this all the time.
00:14:23.520 They say it's the gangbangers, it's the illegal guns coming across the border, it's the constant recidivism, it's the fact that the bad guys aren't kept in jail, it's the soft on crime stuff that is leading to this kind of gun crime.
00:14:37.600 That is what the police officers say, who, who deal with victims of crime every single day.
00:14:43.540 And so they were really able to kind of aggregate this kind of pain.
00:14:48.500 And so as far as an individual's pain goes, like, I respect that.
00:14:52.860 Sure.
00:14:53.220 I just would respectfully say that it might be misdirected against law-abiding firearms owners who are, like, I know about you, like, all the firearms owners I know are really uptight people.
00:15:07.460 Like, we're big rule followers.
00:15:09.460 We have to be.
00:15:10.040 You have to be.
00:15:11.060 We have to be, or you're going to go to jail.
00:15:12.440 Exactly.
00:15:12.880 And they'll go and melt down your family heirlooms.
00:15:17.220 Yeah.
00:15:18.220 I saw actually this week that several police unions and police associations are backing the Conservatives' tough on crime policies.
00:15:27.560 Now, before I move on to your assessment of what the Conservatives are doing, right, maybe what they're doing wrong as far as their financial policies, I just want to touch on this thing that is just going wild in the independent media.
00:15:41.520 But also the National Post covered it.
00:15:45.560 Joe Warmington asked a question about it to Polyev, and that is the Policy Horizons assessment of what Canada will be like in 2040.
00:15:53.500 And I should be clear that this is the in-house think tank of the Privy Council office.
00:15:58.940 These are not just doomsday people and conspiracy theorists.
00:16:05.480 These are the people who are paid to consider these things and look at what the economic policy will bring to Canada under the current trajectory.
00:16:18.060 And it's pretty doom and gloom.
00:16:20.900 It is people killing animals in the public parks to survive.
00:16:25.520 They use the word land-owning aristocracy.
00:16:30.580 Like, this is dialing back society a thousand years to where there are serfs and aristocrats and you're damned to one or enjoying the other based on how you're born.
00:16:43.500 And these bureaucrats think that that's where Canada is headed in 15 years.
00:16:50.640 But I think based on Carney's spending, it's closer to, I don't know, 10 years because their analysis was based on the data that they had in January of this year when Justin Trudeau's bad policies were the ones leading the way.
00:17:06.480 And now we've got Mark Carney spending $100 billion more than that.
00:17:10.220 Big time.
00:17:10.740 Uh, there's a lot to unpack there.
00:17:13.000 And actually, I just wanted to legit thank the people who wrote the study.
00:17:19.500 Because the people who wrote the study, I don't know them personally.
00:17:23.180 I don't even know their names.
00:17:24.260 Um, but to generalize, they're probably doing okay.
00:17:27.920 They're probably living, you know, generally speaking in the national capital region, most likely.
00:17:32.800 They probably have a house.
00:17:34.320 Like, they may not, but they likely do.
00:17:36.920 Um, they're more typically the ones who won't have to live like this.
00:17:43.260 But credit where it's due.
00:17:45.600 Um, they empathized enough and kind of blue-skied this enough outside of their own little bubble in order to say, hey, what's going to happen if?
00:17:55.100 And so, thank you.
00:17:57.360 Like, credit to them.
00:17:58.780 Yeah.
00:17:58.980 Because this is the reality for a lot of people.
00:18:02.560 And if I can take off my CTF hat for a second and just speak personally.
00:18:07.000 Um, I was raised on hunted meat.
00:18:09.760 Same.
00:18:10.200 I was raised on deer meat.
00:18:11.880 I was raised on moose meat.
00:18:13.640 Um, we lived next to our First Nations neighbors and we bought a lot of food salmon off of them.
00:18:19.400 Um, we had, we had a vegetable garden.
00:18:22.040 Um, for several years there, things were pretty tight when I was a little kid.
00:18:26.980 Now, things got a lot easier, you know, once a bigger job was gotten when I was 10.
00:18:30.840 But there was a span of time there that was largely caused by the first Trudeau's national energy program.
00:18:39.360 Now, we were more fortunate than some because we were in B.C. and we held on to our house and we were okay.
00:18:45.780 I know a lot of folks here in Alberta left the keys on the counter type thing.
00:18:50.260 Yeah.
00:18:50.480 And it was rough.
00:18:51.240 Um, and so I was kind of struck a little bit by the upper government class insight into the reality for a lot of working class blue collar people.
00:19:02.840 And that is when things get tight, you have to make some pretty drastic decisions like going hunting for your food.
00:19:11.340 Um, and so I hope we don't get there.
00:19:14.460 I do know that some people do it, of course, for, you know, um, the pleasure of doing it, for being a good environmental steward, for getting out in the air.
00:19:23.340 Like not everybody has to hunt in order to sustain themselves, but I do know some people do.
00:19:29.280 Um, so some people are already there.
00:19:31.420 So for them to say, um, hello, government policies can lead to things like this, I think is really important.
00:19:37.740 Now to put my CTF hat back on, this is why I put this out on X.
00:19:42.020 It's all of these things that the person, that the authors are describing.
00:19:46.120 So people having to get more grassroots to local government, having to do food sharing co-op programs, having to grow their own food, like a victory garden, um, having to hunt that sort of stuff that can all seem extreme to some people, but for other people, it's just surviving.
00:20:04.560 It's being self-sufficient.
00:20:06.800 Um, our grandparents did it and their grandparents did it.
00:20:09.860 Um, and so I wanted to boil it down to what is causing this.
00:20:15.260 It's money.
00:20:16.900 If people don't have enough money, they will have to do things like go hunting for food, go fishing for food, grow their own gardens, um, only buy secondhand, rely on a food co-op, do room sharing.
00:20:32.360 That is what happens when people don't have enough money.
00:20:35.760 And one of the biggest reasons why Canadians do not have enough money right now is because of the government's choices.
00:20:44.560 So that is the carbon tax that they've been nailing us with since 2019.
00:20:49.820 Okay.
00:20:50.300 I added it all up.
00:20:51.620 I went back to 2019.
00:20:52.760 Sheila, the federal government has taken more than $43 billion from Canadians just in the first carbon tax.
00:21:02.240 Okay.
00:21:02.780 Not including the rebates and all that other stuff, but just how, that's how much they took in more than 43 billion.
00:21:08.120 So the carbon tax was a big one.
00:21:09.940 They nailed you for the necessities of life for years.
00:21:13.740 Two, inflation, inflation, inflation, inflation.
00:21:17.440 They printed money like it was going out of style.
00:21:20.460 I think it was between 300 and 400 billion dollars out of thin air.
00:21:26.140 And as any good economist will tell you, when you have too many dollars chasing too few things, you wind up making those things be way too expensive.
00:21:36.540 Okay.
00:21:37.020 So those are two huge elements.
00:21:39.700 And why were they printing money?
00:21:41.480 And before folks start saying, oh, we had a pandemic, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:21:44.460 No, no, no.
00:21:44.900 The Trudeau government in 2018, 2019 spent more money than they did in any year of the Second World War.
00:21:54.500 Adjusted for inflation and population.
00:21:56.760 So they were already blowing the bank way before anything bad happened after 2020.
00:22:02.660 So it's because of government choices like a carbon tax on the necessities of life, money printing, and money wasting, which now has us in this boat.
00:22:12.580 When you add up all levels of government, local, provincial, and federal, almost half of your paycheck is gone.
00:22:21.340 Do this little practice.
00:22:24.060 Kind of close your eyes and imagine if you get your salary every two weeks or whatever automatically showing up in your bank account, picture that amount being double.
00:22:34.000 Double.
00:22:34.940 What could you do with that money?
00:22:36.680 Could you afford more nutritious food?
00:22:38.420 Could you get your car fixed?
00:22:39.900 Could you maybe save up for your kid's education?
00:22:41.880 That's how much money the government takes from you.
00:22:45.540 And so this is why, boy, oh boy, if they seriously keep this Alberta energy capsula, where it's going to blow a $20 billion hole in our economy and lose 40,000 jobs.
00:22:57.620 If they're going to keep 80% of our oil and gas in the ground, if they're going to block pipelines, if they're going to keep on printing money, if they're going to spend money like Carney is saying he's gonna, I'm glad that that group put out that report.
00:23:09.940 Because maybe it'll be kind of a wake-up call and a warning bell for folks in the suburbs saying, I don't really want to go here.
00:23:16.340 We need different government policy.
00:23:18.140 And again, I would say the same thing.
00:23:19.520 If the blue team had screwed it up this bad the last 10 years, I'd be having my hair on fire.
00:23:24.260 But this is a serious moment.
00:23:25.840 Well, and it puts the federal government of Mark Carney, if he is reelected, on a collision course with Alberta, because we have a premier who says that she is going to double production of oil and gas.
00:23:40.580 It does.
00:23:40.880 And he says, no, actually, we're putting a cap on production and you need to leave 80% in the ground.
00:23:46.840 Well, she's not going to do that.
00:23:48.100 And then Danielle Smith said, if you try coming into the buildings where we keep our emissions data, we're going to arrest you for trespassing.
00:23:56.620 Right.
00:23:57.020 So it's getting real.
00:23:58.900 Yeah.
00:23:59.200 So.
00:23:59.580 Yeah, let's rumble.
00:24:02.360 Now, I wanted to ask your assessment of the blue team.
00:24:06.200 Yes.
00:24:06.380 As you say.
00:24:07.500 What's good?
00:24:08.300 What's bad in their economic policy?
00:24:10.920 Let's start with the bad, because I like ending on the good.
00:24:13.980 The bad news is, is they are going to keep spending more than what the Canadian, I know, more than what the Canadian Taxpayers Federation would be comfortable with.
00:24:23.120 Because, of course, we're the sticklers.
00:24:25.100 Okay.
00:24:25.660 We want lower taxes, less waste, and more accountable government.
00:24:29.020 And elements of that are things like balance the budget.
00:24:32.400 Okay.
00:24:33.240 Quit spending so much money.
00:24:34.940 Okay.
00:24:35.500 So we're always going to be the one way over here on this side of the tent peg, yelling at them.
00:24:41.300 We don't care what color jersey they're wearing.
00:24:43.260 Quit spending so much money.
00:24:44.980 So bad first, they're still spending a lot of money.
00:24:48.340 They're still going to run a deficit.
00:24:50.420 I think by year four, they said $14 billion deficit.
00:24:54.680 We would much prefer them to run a balanced budget, at least by the end of a mandate.
00:25:00.840 So by year four, we're being nice here.
00:25:03.800 Trust me, we want it done year one.
00:25:05.380 But if I'm being reasonable, I want it balanced by year four.
00:25:10.740 We think they can do that without being, you know, harsh and draconian and austerity.
00:25:16.100 But politics is politics.
00:25:17.720 And I'm sure they're worried about two things.
00:25:19.900 One, they're worried about scaring normal people and making them think that, you know,
00:25:24.620 there's going to be craziness in the streets.
00:25:26.580 Number one, spoiler alert, there already is craziness in the streets.
00:25:29.200 Number two, big time.
00:25:32.340 And so I also think that they're also bracing themselves because there are so many unknown
00:25:37.180 knowns.
00:25:38.020 They don't know what they don't know.
00:25:39.780 And I think they're kind of bracing themselves for the mess if they formed government that
00:25:44.180 they would be dealing with.
00:25:45.640 So bad news first, we would like them to balance the budget.
00:25:49.000 The good news is they're spending way less than Carney, like way less than Trudeau, way
00:25:54.060 less than Carney.
00:25:54.740 Yes, they're still adding billions of dollars onto the debt, but it is like, I think, half
00:25:59.900 of what Carney is planning on adding.
00:26:02.440 So a huge dramatic improvement on Carney's plan.
00:26:06.800 But as staunch, you know, fiscal small C conservatives, we would like them to balance the budget.
00:26:13.240 The good news is, like I said, they're spending way less, which is great.
00:26:17.300 And two, I'm so happy to hear this.
00:26:20.940 They're actually saying that we need a federal taxpayer protection plan.
00:26:25.200 Yes.
00:26:26.400 I was so delighted.
00:26:27.860 I wasn't even expecting it.
00:26:29.160 It was like having an extra little bit, like a gift in the morning.
00:26:33.080 So for the first time, I think, I know the Canadian Alliance still talked about referendums,
00:26:37.640 kind of, but not as much.
00:26:38.940 For the first time, really, since the Reform Party, we are hearing at the federal level
00:26:43.840 that we want direct democracy, that if you want to hike taxes or invent new ones, you
00:26:48.720 got to get a say-so from us.
00:26:50.920 You have to have a referendum before you can hike taxes or create new ones.
00:26:55.580 That's huge.
00:26:56.900 That is huge.
00:26:58.000 Because here in Alberta, the Taxpayer Protection Act is what has shielded us all this time from
00:27:03.080 a sales tax.
00:27:03.840 And that saves families millions of dollars every single year.
00:27:08.380 Like, it is a huge thing.
00:27:10.160 And the Premier just finished beefing it up.
00:27:12.880 So you can't invent new taxes or hike existing ones, again, without having a referendum first.
00:27:19.480 So to hear that at the federal level, to put power back into the hands of the people, that
00:27:25.120 was great.
00:27:26.240 So we were super thrilled to hear that.
00:27:28.880 So again, on the other side, we would like them to be balancing the budget.
00:27:32.060 You know what?
00:27:32.760 I think they can.
00:27:33.840 If they get in there and they start making the right changes, I do think that they would
00:27:37.740 be able to have a balanced budget by year four.
00:27:39.780 They just probably don't want to promise that.
00:27:41.640 So I'd like to see that.
00:27:43.060 But the big one is Taxpayer Protection Act.
00:27:45.040 That would be a game changer for people.
00:27:47.340 You know, I saw some mainstream media journalist types, like, clutching their pearls and like,
00:27:52.560 how will they ever be able to raise taxes again?
00:27:54.640 And I'm like, okay.
00:27:55.880 Yeah.
00:27:56.220 That's the point.
00:27:57.320 I accept these terms.
00:27:59.160 Thank you.
00:27:59.480 Welcome.
00:28:00.220 Welcome.
00:28:00.960 You'll catch on.
00:28:01.780 But it's typical, right?
00:28:03.840 I'm so, I'm not surprised at all that the press gallery was acting like that because they
00:28:07.720 think that, A, this is all their environment and it's all up to them.
00:28:10.740 It's their little playground and what they say goes.
00:28:13.040 And two, a lot of them think that wealth is owned by the state.
00:28:17.900 Right.
00:28:18.300 Like, by default, and that we're allowed to have some of it back if we're good little peasants.
00:28:23.360 That's not the way this works.
00:28:25.400 This is our money.
00:28:26.480 And also, you know, a lot of them make their income thanks to subsidies and bailouts from
00:28:33.000 the likes of you and I through the hands of the government.
00:28:35.520 There's one thing that I was excited to see from the conservatives, and that is reiterating
00:28:40.720 that commitment to get rid of the CBC, which will save us $1.5 billion plus all their advertising
00:28:47.780 contracts.
00:28:48.380 I think the advertising contracts are about $600 million a year from the federal government.
00:28:54.440 And I'm happy for that because I don't think that there's any need for a state broadcaster
00:29:01.800 in 2025 Canada.
00:29:03.760 But also, I experienced the hideousness of the CBC during the debates for the federal
00:29:11.960 leaders.
00:29:12.800 We were at CBC Radio Canada's building in Montreal.
00:29:18.220 Ezra's hood, as he put it.
00:29:19.580 I'm in my hood.
00:29:20.740 Yeah, Ezra's hood.
00:29:22.260 We were subjected to two straight days of heckling, jeering, paper-throwing arguments directed at
00:29:30.500 us while we quietly just sat there and took it.
00:29:32.440 Or told the other side, like, hey, calm down.
00:29:35.120 And then the CBC, right outside of where we were sitting, lying about us to the point
00:29:41.100 where they had to issue a retraction.
00:29:43.420 I saw that.
00:29:43.680 And I just want you to take your CTF hat off and then put your former journalist hat back
00:29:48.820 on.
00:29:49.900 Tell me, how are you, how excited are you that the CBC has been promised to be defunded by
00:29:58.080 the conservatives if they win?
00:29:59.380 I can start with the CTF hat on because we want the CBC totally defunded.
00:30:04.420 That would save us around $1.4 billion per year because it's a huge waste of money.
00:30:09.700 Next to nobody is watching it.
00:30:11.040 And also, spoiler, it is a conflict of interest.
00:30:14.760 Yes!
00:30:14.960 Like, journalists should not be paid by the government.
00:30:20.300 Like, having to say that is crazy pants to me.
00:30:23.260 Like, I don't care if, God rest his soul, it were Rex Murphy reading the news and Don
00:30:28.480 Cherry reading the sports.
00:30:30.300 Governments shouldn't be paying their salaries at all.
00:30:32.760 Period.
00:30:33.300 You know what, though?
00:30:33.780 People might watch if it were those two.
00:30:35.180 They would.
00:30:35.680 I know.
00:30:36.040 I mean, I'd watch, but I'd be like, I shouldn't be paying for this.
00:30:38.900 But it's so funny.
00:30:40.220 So we shouldn't be paying for this.
00:30:42.500 And we shouldn't be paying for any media.
00:30:44.520 Right.
00:30:44.620 No media.
00:30:45.800 CBC, CTV, Global, any of the newspapers, any of them.
00:30:49.000 Like, not one nickel should go from the state to a newsroom because then it becomes propaganda.
00:30:56.000 You can't trust it.
00:30:57.300 But even if, bless their hearts, there's a hardworking journalist in there that is only
00:31:01.820 trying to do the W5 journalism, it's the perception of bias that destroys trust.
00:31:08.580 So this is why this is a, you know, this equation doesn't work.
00:31:11.860 So they have to absolutely stop funding all journalists.
00:31:15.020 All of them.
00:31:15.540 Every one of them.
00:31:16.520 Two, taking my hat off and going back to when I was a member of the press gallery, I'm not
00:31:21.280 surprised.
00:31:22.200 No.
00:31:22.600 Like, grown adults throwing paper at you and jeering at you and stuff.
00:31:25.800 I am not surprised whatsoever.
00:31:27.720 I have worked in most of these mainstream newsrooms.
00:31:30.800 Some of the behavior I saw, treating colleagues and coworkers within the same newsroom was shocking
00:31:36.660 to me.
00:31:37.460 It was the most shocking at the CBC.
00:31:39.720 I was only there for six weeks.
00:31:42.460 I wouldn't speak to my worst waitress that way.
00:31:46.820 The way I saw some people behaving in the CBC newsroom.
00:31:49.740 Not all of them, but a couple of them.
00:31:52.300 And so I'm not surprised.
00:31:53.500 I will just say, when we started Sun News Network back in, I think it was 2012, 2011,
00:31:59.880 around there, we have to keep in mind, Sun News Network was born out of the Sun Media
00:32:06.780 newspaper chain that still exists.
00:32:09.420 So Toronto Sun, Calgary Sun, Edmonton Sun, that newspaper chain.
00:32:12.900 So we already had parliamentary press gallery credentials.
00:32:16.580 Like, the Sun chain is old.
00:32:19.100 Very, very old.
00:32:20.240 We were established journalists.
00:32:22.620 And even then, we're part of a cool new TV startup.
00:32:26.320 The mean girling that was happening.
00:32:29.680 Like, I won't name names, but I was out afterwards, just after we launched, just like out with a
00:32:35.320 couple of people, into a mainstream journalist, who I'm sure meant well, came up to me.
00:32:41.540 And she puts her hand on my hand and she leans forward.
00:32:43.860 She's like, are you okay?
00:32:46.080 Like, do you need to go talk?
00:32:47.880 Like, it was as if I'd been kidnapped.
00:32:51.140 And I'm like, yeah, I'm fine.
00:32:53.120 I'm stoked.
00:32:53.920 I'm from rural Western Canada.
00:32:55.600 Like, you know, I, you know, I want smaller government.
00:32:58.480 I want lower taxes.
00:32:59.380 I want to fight for the working guy.
00:33:01.500 Like, you know, all tons of my family members worked in the oil patch.
00:33:04.720 They drove trucks.
00:33:05.540 We own guns.
00:33:06.460 Like, these are my people.
00:33:08.340 But the idea that this was your people and here you are in your dirty boots up here on
00:33:13.580 Parliament Hill, so to speak, doing the whole Garth Brooks routine, um, was shocking to
00:33:18.440 them.
00:33:18.800 And so I'm not, I'm sorry that happened to you.
00:33:21.280 I'm not surprised whatsoever.
00:33:23.160 Um, but I will just say, um, as much as it's good for our audience, for them to know,
00:33:28.760 we're not supposed to be the story.
00:33:32.120 Journalists, you know, just wanted to ask the question.
00:33:34.380 Yep.
00:33:35.060 Yep.
00:33:35.800 Yep.
00:33:36.120 And here we are fighting in the terrarium again.
00:33:38.860 You know, I'll tell you exactly what my question would have been on the second night.
00:33:44.100 If I were allowed to ask it, I was going to ask why the canola tariffs, thanks to, uh,
00:33:50.080 the liberals protectionist policies on electric vehicles from China are not being treated with
00:33:56.220 the same urgency as those auto tariffs are.
00:34:01.180 Great question.
00:34:02.340 We get that all the time because tons of our supporters, of course, are in Western Canada
00:34:05.640 and they are farmers and they are getting brutalized by this.
00:34:09.180 I thought this was a perfect question for me.
00:34:10.920 It is.
00:34:11.600 Because I'm a farmer.
00:34:12.680 I know this.
00:34:13.580 I'm living this.
00:34:14.520 And I'm from Western Canada.
00:34:16.820 I've got one chance to ask a question that matters to the people who matter to me.
00:34:21.760 And that's our viewers and my friends.
00:34:24.200 And I was robbed of that thanks to the unhinged buffoonery of the mainstream media and their
00:34:30.180 enablers at the commission and the CBC.
00:34:31.820 I will say it's gotten worse since I was in the game because, um, back in the, you know,
00:34:37.760 20, 2006, 2008, whenever I was there with CTV, which we did pretty straight up and down
00:34:42.620 journalism.
00:34:43.220 Like I cut those clips myself.
00:34:45.220 Like we chased after it didn't matter if it was a blue politician, red politician.
00:34:49.160 I liked those days.
00:34:50.300 It was in the early and mid two thousands.
00:34:52.460 Um, and I will say that back then the parliamentary press gallery had a lot more humans in it from
00:34:58.140 different, uh, newspapers.
00:34:59.680 And so there was like a long standing, I think it was called the Catholic register, sweet lady,
00:35:05.100 you know, she's always working on her same stuff.
00:35:07.180 God bless her and would ask the same questions every time.
00:35:09.920 And that's fine.
00:35:10.600 And nobody was throwing paper at her.
00:35:13.160 Nobody was like sneering at her.
00:35:15.120 Um, folks who were part of, uh, you'll know the Western producer, which is a huge publication
00:35:20.060 for Western Canada for agriculture.
00:35:22.740 They'd ask those questions.
00:35:24.100 They, they absolutely would have asked canola type questions or supply management type questions
00:35:29.280 or dairy questions.
00:35:30.400 Um, and it was, they did their thing and then the other mainstream media would go ask their
00:35:36.460 thing, but it wasn't like this level of hostility that you're getting now.
00:35:42.020 And there's two reasons for that.
00:35:44.220 I think, well, three, one, people are just getting more polarized.
00:35:47.500 I don't know how I can fix it, but it's just my observation.
00:35:50.420 People are getting more polarized to tons of journalists are on government payroll now.
00:35:55.280 Yep.
00:35:56.300 Outside of the CBC, which is again, to my point, this is the problem, folks.
00:36:01.100 You cannot rely on the state for your blood supply or you're going to wind up like this.
00:36:05.240 And three, the decimation of newsrooms.
00:36:09.340 There's just fewer people in these newsrooms now.
00:36:12.500 And there's fewer experienced people.
00:36:15.820 Um, it's a lot of times it's being run by one or two people nowadays in a local newsroom
00:36:20.040 and they're doing everything.
00:36:21.160 So they don't have time or the experience to sit down and analyze what's going on, to
00:36:26.820 speak truth to power, to say, you know what?
00:36:28.920 I remember 10 years ago when you tried that nonsense answer and I'm nailing you about it
00:36:32.720 now because you have the experience.
00:36:34.800 So it's a combination of those three things.
00:36:36.880 I'm just sorry that it descended into that.
00:36:39.160 I listened to it on the way back home from North Battleford last night and that was embarrassing.
00:36:44.320 Like as, as a journalist and somebody who tries to practice that trade still, that was
00:36:48.980 embarrassing.
00:36:49.500 I, I might've lost my temper in that room, Sheila.
00:36:51.980 I used my, uh, you're late for the school bus voice with a couple of them.
00:36:59.060 I didn't yell.
00:37:00.740 I didn't yell, but I was very frustrated that they were not telling the truth.
00:37:04.780 I said to, uh, someone from the CBC, you saw how we've been treated for two days.
00:37:10.800 You've seen the jeering, the heckling, the swearing, the arguments unsolicited, and you've
00:37:16.700 reported none of it.
00:37:18.120 And she's just sort of smirked at me.
00:37:20.760 Um, but I'm sorry.
00:37:22.540 That sucks.
00:37:23.420 You know what?
00:37:23.940 I was thinking about like the olden days of 2015 when Rachel, not me, not Lee threw me
00:37:30.000 out of the legislature.
00:37:30.860 I remember that and journalists who didn't like me were like, Hey, you can't do that.
00:37:36.040 And I thought, you know, in the olden days of 10 short years ago, if what happened to
00:37:42.020 Drea Humphrey had happened in 2015, I think the entire line of journalists might've said,
00:37:48.960 I'm, we're not asking our question until you answer hers.
00:37:53.720 That's right.
00:37:54.240 There would have been some solidarity across, uh, ideological lines that because everybody
00:38:00.720 should care about freedom of the press, but it's just not like that anymore.
00:38:05.220 And so I got two little stories that you'll like to back that up.
00:38:09.280 Um, and I won't name names.
00:38:10.700 So folks who are listening, it's okay.
00:38:13.140 Um, one, I was working for CTV again, major national producer.
00:38:18.140 Like they'd send me ahead of time and I'd get everything going and it was at, uh, a conservative
00:38:22.900 retreat.
00:38:23.660 And so they're having a caucus meeting, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:38:25.580 It was in Prince Edward Island.
00:38:27.200 Um, they tried to block me from the building to go in there and cover it.
00:38:33.240 I'm like, no, no, no.
00:38:34.100 It says right here, open to media.
00:38:35.800 And they tried this.
00:38:36.880 It was a local thing and they, there was cross wires, but you know, politicians want to control
00:38:41.040 the message.
00:38:41.580 And if you're in power, it doesn't matter if it's blue team or red team, they'll try to control
00:38:45.560 the message.
00:38:46.020 So it actually wound up on the front page of the Globe and Mail where I'm standing there
00:38:50.420 on the stairs, arguing with this person on why we should be allowed in.
00:38:54.220 Funny for them, um, the CTV Bureau at the time was physically in that same building in
00:39:00.500 Charlottetown.
00:39:01.340 So I had the keys.
00:39:02.740 So we got in.
00:39:04.300 Um, so that was one thing.
00:39:06.160 Another time, again, to your point, defending another journalist, um, very small statured
00:39:12.220 lady who at the time was working for the Hill Times.
00:39:14.700 This would have been around 2012, 2013.
00:39:18.880 I believe I was with Sun News at the time.
00:39:20.740 And again, it was a conservative event.
00:39:22.900 Now, to be fair, it was more of a private event.
00:39:25.860 Like it was some sort of a dinner cocktail-y thing, some reception.
00:39:29.320 But media were invited.
00:39:31.040 They did get the invite.
00:39:32.100 This Little Hill Times reporter who I'd known for a long time.
00:39:35.000 We probably vote differently most of the time, but that's okay.
00:39:37.880 We're both walk up.
00:39:39.100 We both got our gear.
00:39:40.220 She's got her recorder.
00:39:41.420 I've got my camera.
00:39:42.500 We're walking in there.
00:39:43.520 We both got our accreditation.
00:39:44.860 We're both Parliament Hills, uh, journalists, press gallery.
00:39:47.980 And they tried to say, oh, Chris, you can come in, but you can't, to the Hill Times person.
00:39:55.460 I said, well, did you get an invite?
00:39:57.000 She goes, yeah, I've got it right here on my BlackBerry.
00:39:59.180 I said, well, I said, I'm not going in unless she goes in.
00:40:03.260 And if you don't let me in, there's going to be a thing.
00:40:06.200 Like, I'm going to go back on the air right now.
00:40:08.220 And they let her in because that's how you do those things.
00:40:13.100 And back in the day, they either would have stood there and not asked their question until
00:40:18.580 they answered yours or whoever it was, or they would have asked it verbatim.
00:40:23.200 I saw that in scrums all the time where they would try to ignore one person's question.
00:40:27.360 And then all of a sudden you ask their question verbatim and you drop yours.
00:40:30.960 That was always just kind of the understood code among journalists.
00:40:35.900 And that's clearly gone.
00:40:37.440 And I am sorry.
00:40:38.860 I am sorry because you can't get the news out and you can't get the answer for your canola
00:40:42.340 farmers that you wanted.
00:40:44.960 The, a similar, well, we're rehashing stories.
00:40:48.360 In 2019, Chrystia Freeland and the Foreign Office of the UK hosted a media freedom conference
00:40:56.000 in London.
00:40:57.400 We went, remember, we had to get accredited through the UK Foreign Office because our own
00:41:03.060 government wouldn't accredit us.
00:41:04.360 So we were there and then they're holding a press scrum for Chrystia Freeland and they,
00:41:12.540 her media handler comes out and said, and remember, this is at a media freedom conference.
00:41:18.700 And they come out and they say, okay, we've got 10 journalists here.
00:41:24.340 We only have room for eight.
00:41:25.900 And so Sheila, not you, and Andrew Lawton of True North, not you either.
00:41:33.680 And so to their credit, and I think it's because they are outside of the Mean Girls Cloistered
00:41:38.480 Club and they were the foreign correspondents for Global News and a couple of other outlets,
00:41:44.500 including Al Jazeera of all places, said, yeah, we're, we're not going unless everybody can
00:41:50.700 go and we'll just wait until you find a bigger room.
00:41:53.040 And that's 2019 in London.
00:41:56.380 But back here at home.
00:41:59.040 No, no solidarity whatsoever.
00:42:01.120 This is it.
00:42:01.560 And that should be the way.
00:42:02.940 Okay.
00:42:03.220 People are going to have different approaches.
00:42:05.420 Their readership or their viewership is going to want different product, different information.
00:42:09.100 That's fine.
00:42:10.500 But when it comes to the practice of the trade on the ground and trying to speak truth to
00:42:15.760 power, to hold government officials accountable, that is supposed to be the fundamental tenant
00:42:21.820 of your job.
00:42:23.180 Yep.
00:42:23.560 So, and you need, like, again, this is why the Taxpayers Federation got involved.
00:42:27.760 It wasn't just because it's an enormous waste of money.
00:42:30.240 It's because in order to hold government to account, which is a key issue for us, we need
00:42:38.380 freedom of expression and freedom of the press.
00:42:42.680 Free press is not like a whole bunch of bundled up newspapers given away for free at Times Square.
00:42:48.280 That is not free press.
00:42:49.880 It is free from government interference.
00:42:54.060 That's the point.
00:42:55.540 And if we allow a club who can get their noses out of joint for whatever reason, you may
00:43:00.080 not like Ezra, you know, Ezra may not like them.
00:43:02.500 Like, that's understandable.
00:43:03.860 That's human beings.
00:43:04.940 But once you're there actually practicing your craft, you have to be able to aim your
00:43:10.320 microphones at the right direction.
00:43:12.280 And that is to the powerful.
00:43:14.160 That is to the government.
00:43:15.500 Because there's millions of people at home that don't have that privilege, that don't
00:43:20.320 have that megaphone, that don't have that microphone, and they're about to lose their
00:43:23.580 farm.
00:43:24.420 They're about to have their truck repossessed.
00:43:26.620 They're wondering how they're going to feed their kids.
00:43:28.520 Like, you need to be able to ask these questions on their behalf.
00:43:32.520 And this is why I would plead with anyone in journalism, okay?
00:43:35.580 I don't care who you vote for.
00:43:36.940 You have to be clear with how you practice your craft, though.
00:43:40.460 And you have to remember where you're sticking the microphone.
00:43:44.160 And it should always be under the mouth of the politician that wants to take your money.
00:43:49.180 Right.
00:43:49.700 Instead, they're turning it on the other journalists these days.
00:43:51.940 This is it.
00:43:52.640 It's weird.
00:43:53.400 Leave that for the bar.
00:43:54.680 Go argue at the bar after.
00:43:55.980 Get your work done.
00:43:56.680 That's what we used to do.
00:43:57.980 Go get your work done.
00:43:58.780 Get your clips.
00:43:59.380 Get your stuff filed.
00:44:00.420 And then go yell at the bar.
00:44:02.700 Right.
00:44:04.500 On your own dime, too.
00:44:05.780 Quit taking it from taxpayers.
00:44:07.060 Yeah.
00:44:07.260 Don't expense your drinks to me.
00:44:08.920 Stop.
00:44:10.180 Okay.
00:44:10.640 This has been so nice.
00:44:11.860 It has been fun.
00:44:13.360 Before I let you go, because I am two minutes late for a meeting, can you please tell us how
00:44:19.960 people can get involved in the CTF and support the work that you do to hold the government
00:44:25.600 to account on behalf of the little guy?
00:44:27.540 Yes.
00:44:27.840 Very quickly.
00:44:28.320 Go to taxpayer.com.
00:44:30.000 Sign up for the petitions.
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00:44:44.020 Chris, thank you so much.
00:44:45.600 We'll talk very soon.
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00:45:49.960 Now, today's comment section comes from YouTube, but not on a clip of the gun show.
00:45:58.160 It's actually on another story that I did.
00:46:00.200 It's on the treatment of Lorraine Brett of the New Westminster Times by Glenn McGregor of, I believe, City TV.
00:46:10.340 He is one of the poorly behaved journalists from the debates media lockup that we had to deal with.
00:46:19.000 And he turned his ire on Lorraine after Lorraine asked a question of conservative leader Pierre Polyev about his drug policy.
00:46:31.580 Lorraine's an expert in this, being an investigative journalist who covers that issue in British Columbia, but also is the mother of a man who's in recovery from drug addiction.
00:46:44.300 And when she asked that question, like I said, Glenn McGregor turned his ire on her, accused her of being a conservative plant instead of just a mother and a journalist, local journalist.
00:46:57.340 By the way, this was an announcement in her community who is expertly qualified to ask the question that she did.
00:47:04.660 They just couldn't believe that someone would ask a reasonable question of the conservatives on their drug policy.
00:47:12.720 So they went after her.
00:47:14.680 So I thought I would want to hear what you all had to think about that story.
00:47:20.600 So I went to YouTube.
00:47:22.200 As I said, here are your comments.
00:47:25.400 Chen Dard MD says the guy is lucky to have a mother that cares so much about him.
00:47:31.260 Yeah.
00:47:32.460 Yeah, he sure is.
00:47:33.600 Tom Moose Cohn says good report, Sheila.
00:47:36.180 Well, thank you.
00:47:37.460 Richard Case Simpson 800 says outstanding.
00:47:41.280 This is what the media should look like.
00:47:42.940 I'm sorry you were disrespected by Jimmy at the debate.
00:47:46.000 You all do such good work there.
00:47:48.880 Look, I don't even care about being disrespected.
00:47:52.220 I can put up with their boohooing and their jeering or whatever.
00:47:57.080 I was denied the ability to ask a question that I think you guys wanted answers to.
00:48:01.460 Well, I got thick skin.
00:48:03.700 I'm used to the mainstream media crybabies crying at me.
00:48:07.800 No big deal.
00:48:08.780 But what they did was they denied you answers and protected the politicians from accountability.
00:48:17.400 And they blamed us for it, which is a special level of gaslighting.
00:48:23.400 Rick Schritt 1616 says this is happening in every community, both big and small across Canada, the drug problem.
00:48:33.320 And it's impacting quite literally millions of Canadians.
00:48:36.220 Thank you to Lorraine for speaking up and sharing your story.
00:48:39.080 No doubt.
00:48:39.560 In British Columbia, it's one of the leading causes of death for young people, if not the leading cause of death for young people.
00:48:49.060 And it's directly correlated to the liberal government federally and the provincial NDP government's drug policies.
00:48:57.180 So, yes, it does beg a few questions, doesn't it?
00:49:00.560 Al McGill, Al McGill, I guess it is, 577.
00:49:05.840 Excellent reporting.
00:49:06.680 Sheila, keep up the great work that you and all the rebel reporters do.
00:49:10.000 Thank you for showing the other side of the story.
00:49:12.240 Well, you're welcome.
00:49:13.820 Donald DeChicko.
00:49:16.800 Notice how the message is not challenged.
00:49:18.880 The messenger is attacked in an effort to diminish the message.
00:49:23.720 Anytime you see that, it should tell you who the genuine one is.
00:49:26.820 Exactly.
00:49:27.340 Like I said, Lorraine is uniquely qualified to ask the question that she did as a mother, a journalist, a local journalist, and an expert in the subject matter.
00:49:40.860 So much an expert that she testified at the health committee back in December of 2024.
00:49:46.380 And maybe before these guys went after her as a conservative plant, they might have Googled her name and seen that.
00:49:54.140 But that would require the most basic level of journalism.
00:49:57.060 And I saw none of that from them during the debates at all.
00:50:03.780 They're just ideologues and ill-behaved children, toddlers, complete toddlers.
00:50:11.540 Anyway, that's the show for today.
00:50:13.660 Thank you so much for tuning in.
00:50:14.800 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.
00:50:17.800 And as always, don't let the government or the media, although there's really no distinction, tell you that you've had too much to think.
00:50:24.480 I'll see everybody back here in the next week.