Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Cory Morgan on Calgary's $87B climate plan and the CPC leadership race

00:00:00.000 City of Calgary's new climate scheme is going to cost over 80 billion dollars and Justin Trudeau

00:00:06.180 had a whistle-stop tour of the Calgary Stampede and if you got all your news from the mainstream

00:00:11.200 media it went well. It did not. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:30.000 Calgary remains one of the most conservative places in the entire country but you would never

00:00:38.300 know it if you paid careful attention to municipal politics there. The new mayor, a far left-wing

00:00:45.700 I guess I might call her a bit of an extremist as far as her politics go, G.O.D. Gondick

00:00:52.180 has recently signed on to a climate scheme that's in excess of 80 billion dollars. They're really

00:01:02.380 giving the city of Ottawa a run for their money there but do the people really want to pay for

00:01:08.480 this nonsensical virtue signaling? And then Justin Trudeau, he was recently in Calgary for the Stampede

00:01:15.100 as politicians tend to do. They go to pancake breakfast and they glad hand and they politic

00:01:20.920 and they campaigned there and the mainstream media said that it was just a love-in for Justin Trudeau.

00:01:28.280 He was beloved by the public and the people but the lie detector test determined that was not true.

00:01:34.960 There's so much to talk about in Calgary and with regard to the Conservative Party leadership race

00:01:42.000 and then the race to replace Premier Jason Kenney here in Alberta as the leader of the United Conservative

00:01:48.180 Party. And so I thought I would call a bit of an expert on Calgary politics and politics in general.

00:01:54.460 So joining me tonight in an interview we recorded earlier in the day is my friend Corey Morgan.

00:02:00.600 He's a columnist at Western Standard Online and the host of Triggered. Take a listen.

00:02:05.680 Joining me from the Western Standard offices in Calgary is my friend Corey Morgan. Corey thanks for

00:02:19.920 agreeing to come on the show. I know you're a very busy guy. Before we get into you know the the

00:02:26.620 politics of well everything right now it's just nothing but leadership races. I wanted to talk a

00:02:33.460 little bit about the Western Standard Federal Conservative debate. I think it was great in

00:02:40.560 spite of itself and I don't mean that you know critically. I mean you know it was cancelled because

00:02:47.560 he didn't have Pierre Polyev coming and then Lesley Lewis didn't come and then Patrick Brown was

00:02:53.880 sneaky Patrick and he was unceremoniously booted from the race. But I think in spite of all of that

00:03:00.540 with Derek pivoting to a fireside chat I think it went off great and I learned things about Jean

00:03:07.480 Charest's position that left me saying well you know what he's a red Tory but he's right on that.

00:03:14.500 What was the feedback that Western Standard got on the debate? Yeah that was sort of a lot of it. It

00:03:19.320 was hard for the people who'd signed up because we were constantly changing the format but when you're

00:03:23.640 working with something fluid you know what can you do? It was a brilliant idea initially you know we

00:03:28.520 know they're all going to be in Calgary for Stampede. Heck we can get them all in one spot and do a

00:03:32.380 debate but then when Polyev was unavailable we moved it by a day and that made it yeah as you said

00:03:38.120 Lesley couldn't make it and then with Brown being dumped we had to change it because the debate with

00:03:43.680 just three out of five candidates would have been pretty dull. So it was that was changed basically

00:03:49.440 that morning into a fireside chat. We had no idea how well received it would be but as you said I think

00:03:55.900 being able to get some extended answers unpressured from three of those candidates was good and people

00:04:02.100 also like the the informal nature of it you know there was only a couple of hundred people in the

00:04:06.220 room you could actually join them for cocktails afterwards it was a different sort of event so as

00:04:11.760 you said it was successful despite itself and we learned a lot. Well and I liked the fact that it was

00:04:18.080 Western focused so often even when these things are held in Edmonton or Calgary it feels like a space

00:04:24.540 alien is asking the questions and I guess in you know in the case of Edmonton that may or may not

00:04:30.600 be true but these were questions that I think Westerners cared about and we don't often get

00:04:36.060 that so I really appreciate the Western standard for bringing forward those Western concerns because

00:04:40.860 you know they pay a lot of lip service the candidates to Western issues but a lot of times

00:04:46.940 it seems surface and talking points and I think Derek did a good job of drilling down on what they

00:04:52.380 really think about those things. Yeah we're unapologetically Western around here and that

00:04:56.620 was the goal I mean if we didn't have that we would be just like any other I guess you know interviewer

00:05:01.960 debate we stick to our what our audience wanted to hear about and it came out well. Now I wanted to

00:05:08.620 ask you about Pierre Polyev skipping the debate but he's been skipping these things he's skipping scrums

00:05:15.540 all over the place and I'm having a difficult time reconciling the fact that he will go and speak

00:05:22.480 to Jordan Peterson about the value of independent media and how he's going to defund the CBC but when

00:05:28.660 he has the opportunity to speak directly to independent media and the people who watch independent

00:05:35.320 media and consume independent media there's just tumbleweeds blowing past where he's normally

00:05:40.160 standing. I get why he's doing it he's the front runner and it's too risky I probably according to

00:05:46.960 his hangers-on but I I want to see where the rubber meets the road and I'm just not seeing it right now.

00:05:54.040 Yeah it's been frustrating and it's definitely strategic you know when you're the perceived

00:05:57.380 front runner then it's sort of like nobody moves nobody gets hurt you know or the rag in the pot

00:06:01.780 try and get to the end is the word you know you won't gain any support by going to these events

00:06:07.280 but you could step on your tongue and lose a bunch of support if you did something wrong.

00:06:11.500 He did sit down with me actually the other day for an interview but and it was good but again it was

00:06:17.380 very canned and cagey it wasn't the pair of Polyev we know from parliament who's throwing out those

00:06:22.040 great one-liners and shots it was all very careful answers and and it's frustrating it's the campaign

00:06:29.780 Polyev I guess you could say and it leaves people wondering what he would be like I guess after the

00:06:36.020 leadership comes in I mean he's still very popular and I think he's still got all that Pierre Polyev in

00:06:41.380 him but he's he's being very restrained in the later part of this campaign. Yeah it's weird because

00:06:46.500 if the concern is that Pierre Polyev is going to step on his tongue I've never seen it happen

00:06:50.720 never once seen it happen so why would it start now I think these are opportunities for him to shine

00:06:56.460 and show people that he's doing things differently but he keeps just doing everything the same.

00:07:01.220 Yeah and and I think it's advice probably from those around him you get the Ottawa staffer crowd

00:07:06.980 on the go and eventually they they knock you down I mean the rhetoric's changing you can tell with

00:07:11.580 the media used to be looking at him as a curiosity but letting him go and of course it's already

00:07:16.220 shifting to the old tried and true well he's clearly a dog whistling to the racists or the extremists or

00:07:22.780 the insurrectionists or whatnot and I guess they're trying to insulate themselves from that but it won't

00:07:28.040 work they're going to attack him with that no matter what you do. Yeah that's the thing that's

00:07:31.480 that's the thing you're never going to turn those enemies into friends and I'm sure his you know his

00:07:36.140 Venezuelan wife will be surprised to find out that he's a white supremacist and probably his little

00:07:41.380 children will be disappointed too yeah. Yeah um now I wanted to talk to you um you know you're in the

00:07:47.120 heart of Stampede uh Trudeau was in town the other day for Stampede and if you got all your news from the

00:07:52.680 mainstream media it was just an absolute love fest I think one of the headlines was that he was mobbed

00:07:59.080 uh throngs of supporters which is an overused phrase you see in the mainstream media but that's

00:08:06.940 fake news why don't you break that down for us? Yeah it was laughable I mean I it's as I said the

00:08:12.660 other day too I I don't knock the liberals for doing it that way look you don't want to have the prime

00:08:16.700 minister show up and be surrounded by a thousand angry screaming Calgarians it just doesn't make for

00:08:21.720 good optics so they snuck him in basically with no warning the only person who knew was their lone

00:08:27.300 member of parliament out here George Shahal and one or maybe two hand-picked media members who they

00:08:32.800 knew would be friendly were tipped off to show up and cover this thing and then that one from the

00:08:37.240 Canadian press put out that article you know with hey yeah Trudeau mobbed by adoring supporters or

00:08:44.740 whatever it was and the part that was really stomach-turning though was just watching every major

00:08:49.360 news outlet in Canada just cut and paste that story and stick it in there I mean if you even

00:08:53.560 looked at the picture closely you could see that mob outside of that 30 people it was an empty parking

00:08:59.020 lot like this was that staged event as you said it was it was fake news and I just love seeing the

00:09:04.180 the mainstream media embarrass itself keep working on it guys we're here to replace you

00:09:08.440 well that's the thing like they they really don't seem to like you and me the mainstream media

00:09:13.780 but I will never go away if you don't start doing your job they're giving us the the void to fill so

00:09:22.380 so carry on guys yeah I do appreciate the job security um and it's it's funny because the liberals

00:09:29.320 really every time they come into town they just throw everything they've got at old uh George the

00:09:35.620 porch pirate and and it's odd because you think they would be distancing themselves from him but not at

00:09:41.980 no well he's the only one they got they they've got to try and polish that individual and uh

00:09:49.660 you know it's the it's a leak a liberal toehold in Calgary so even if he's got such an embarrassing

00:09:55.600 history and unfortunately voters and news watchers are myopic you don't hear about that anymore this

00:10:00.500 was a a liberal incumbent who got charged you know for stealing mail this is not a minor thing

00:10:06.320 and uh it's been forgotten by most outside of Calgary election meddling that's what it would be

00:10:11.860 if a conservative did it it would be you know they would be questioning the integrity of the

00:10:17.100 electoral process if a conservative looked wrong at a liberal lit drop but this guy could snatch it

00:10:23.280 from somebody's mailbox get caught on a ring video doorbell and they're like you know who knows it happens

00:10:30.300 yeah frustrating but now um i also wanted to ask you um jason kenny did he's doing a very um

00:10:39.680 i don't know i want to say it's smarmy but in a good way i don't know how i don't know what the word

00:10:45.420 is um he's stealing labor day from the unions and i couldn't be happier about it why don't you break

00:10:51.440 that down for us yeah so jason kenny did the big announcement at the premier's stampede breakfast

00:10:57.300 the other day that september 1st will always be alberta day and it's a day to uh celebrate alberta

00:11:03.420 just its greatness and its entrance of into confederation which some people might be mixed

00:11:07.780 on but of course yeah that lands right smack pretty much where labor day is going to be all the time

00:11:12.320 i mean second only to mayday for our local uh socialists to celebrate organized labor and and

00:11:18.180 communism uh so uh yeah i think it was definitely uh on the way out the door a finger in the eye to

00:11:25.320 alberta's left uh you know a little bit of legacy premier kenny can leave behind is this this

00:11:30.840 celebration of alberta on the day when we're all supposed to be singing solidarity forever so uh

00:11:35.300 i think it was a beautiful move on premier kenny's part me too uh i've been a kenny a kenny skeptic and

00:11:41.380 a kenny critic from time to time but this is one of his better better trollings that he's done and i

00:11:47.180 couldn't be happier about it um i wanted to ask you about calgary's climate plan because these you

00:11:55.020 know when people people told me to settle down when calgary declared a climate emergency but these

00:12:01.720 things flow from each other first you call you declare climate emergency and then you introduce

00:12:06.900 the multi-billion dollar climate plan to address it um and this these sort of things are happening

00:12:13.880 in cities all across the country ottawa did the same thing i think ottawa's is 80 billion

00:12:18.380 how are the citizens of ottawa going to come up with 80 billion i guess in the same way that the

00:12:23.280 citizens of calgary are going to come up with a similar number yeah it's ludicrous and again it

00:12:28.420 shows the legacy media dropping the ball this should be making news across the country a civic

00:12:32.760 government a municipal government has come up with a plan that will cost 175 000 a household when you

00:12:39.920 break it down i mean i mean it's insane this should be making headlines they should be questioning the

00:12:45.660 mayor they should be questioning council how do you feel we're going to accomplish these crazy proposed

00:12:51.780 changes when we're already hearing the recession word i mean we can't take more pressure right now

00:12:57.720 but the crickets the silence oh look at that they've embraced a climate plan yeah an 87 billion with a b

00:13:05.080 for one city i think it's bigger than the federal plan right now and i mean it's all the people say

00:13:09.720 oh it's spread out over 28 years oh good that's slow death it's that works out to 3 000 per taxpayer

00:13:16.400 every year for 28 years and you know they're going to go beyond the budget yet again it's not making

00:13:21.580 waves it's it's astounding well and it jody gondick your mayor she's acting as a scarecrow for

00:13:29.120 investment the oil patch is just starting to recover you might see some people move into the

00:13:34.380 downtown core you guys are sort of downtown your offices um you know how vacant things are down

00:13:41.120 there landlords are throwing things at you to get you to move into a building and she's not making it

00:13:46.940 any better when you see you know as a oil patch company the opportunity to move to a city where they

00:13:52.700 have this over 80 billion dollar climate policy or you could just go to midland texas where taxes are

00:14:02.760 low and they want you there i i don't know how the downtown ever recovers from her it's not going to

00:14:09.340 and it just got reported the other day we broke a new record of uh vacancy down here i mean the oil's

00:14:15.440 been back for a bit we're up at 34 official vacancy now that's just what is actually open and vacant

00:14:21.700 there's a lot of empty space all over in these buildings it's just in long-term leases so these

00:14:25.620 companies can't get out of it yet but they're not coming back and yeah gondick well you've had almost a

00:14:30.220 year to work on this ninchy you've had years to work on this is 2015 you've poured 100 million

00:14:35.240 into a slush fund with a calgary economic development to try bring in investment and

00:14:40.180 it's failing we've we've got a ghost town and one of the most major uh you know urban centers in north

00:14:45.540 america and uh they're oblivious they're just oblivious if you're going to keep scaring away

00:14:51.120 investment as you said who's going to move there when you've got this 87 billion plan hanging over

00:14:55.240 your head when you've got a city council that plans on punishing businesses and households for

00:14:59.860 for existing and using power i i got a feeling that that 33 percent that we're sitting at right

00:15:04.580 now it's just the tip of the iceberg well yeah and the true uh the true people who will benefit

00:15:12.420 from it are likely places like airdrie and okotoks oh yeah the growth in uh the county you know

00:15:19.040 county of rocky view just outside of calgary has been fantastic uh you know new amazon centers and

00:15:24.520 shopping malls and uh light manufacturing they're sitting up all around the border of the city and it

00:15:29.560 drives gondek bananas it used to when she was a counselor but what do you guys expect you know

00:15:34.040 you can't cork that bottle and likewise for households people are are fleeing outside of the

00:15:39.180 cities into the bedroom communities they're exacerbating the problem they keep saying they

00:15:42.620 want high density they want everybody to live downtown yet they're driving everybody out of it

00:15:46.940 but they just don't get it they won't accept their ideologues so you can't reason with them well and

00:15:52.020 you would think that they people would sort of be over this you know this drive for us to be

00:15:57.000 high density we're one of the most sparsely populated countries on the face of the earth

00:16:03.320 by the way there's a lot of open space around calgary yeah i get the the pressure not to use up

00:16:10.420 arable farmland but that's not what that's not what's motivating these sort of policies they want

00:16:16.380 everybody stacked on top of each other in these 600 square foot coffins and you would think you just

00:16:22.220 came through covid where everybody was locked in their homes maybe you would want to make a home

00:16:28.440 a place that you would have a little bit more room for the next time china tries to kill everybody

00:16:34.660 well yeah and that's part of uh part of what they don't understand or won't understand too and yeah

00:16:40.140 there will probably be a next time there's always a next time yeah people's outlooks have changed they

00:16:45.080 don't there's the other thing with calgary's transit is down uh 40 percent in in return ridership

00:16:50.700 since the beginning of the pandemic but that's because they've let it be overrun with with junkies

00:16:54.620 and and garbage uh as well on top of that people's attitudes have changed there's no appetite to get

00:16:59.660 jammed onto a public transit unit squeeze yourself into a packed elevator work yourself up to a big busy

00:17:05.900 bustling office with public you know shared washrooms people have learned that if it's possible to work

00:17:10.960 from home they're going to do it and if they're going to work from home they don't want to be as you said

00:17:15.220 in a 600 square foot coffin they want to be in the suburbs or even a bedroom community where they got a

00:17:19.680 yard and fresh air and a little bit of space and the city council can't accept that but i mean it

00:17:25.400 doesn't matter whether they can accept it or not the city is is bleeding yeah it's like they don't

00:17:29.800 understand human nature whatsoever and they don't understand that they just spent two years telling

00:17:33.980 everybody to stay far apart from each other and then they want you to literally be warehoused

00:17:39.280 in these little like i said 600 square foot coffins now um i wanted to ask you about the ucp

00:17:47.960 leadership race um you guys are watching it really closely we are too over here at rebel news who do

00:17:53.400 you think the front runner is is it gene is it daniel smith i i'm not seeing a lot of polling yet

00:17:59.180 there hasn't been a lot there was one recently and i think it showed daniel with a slight lead and

00:18:03.800 paves farther back and i think that's somewhat accurate i'm just going by field because there

00:18:08.980 hasn't been a lot of polling i don't think brian gene is actually really a strong contender at this

00:18:14.640 point and people sort of hung around him because they disliked kenny so much they wanted gene to

00:18:18.880 help knock him down but now that kenny's stepping aside they're like well we don't really like you

00:18:23.700 that much either there seemed to be other options than at the time there it was just gene and we'll

00:18:29.700 see it's still relatively early in the campaign i mean danielle's hit the ground running i think part

00:18:34.780 of the strategy is because while her biggest handicap of course was her floor crossing and her history

00:18:38.620 there and as long as she's constantly putting out releases and forcing discussion on things such as

00:18:44.920 you know autonomy and and sovereignty acts uh there isn't time to question her on her past things she's

00:18:49.660 leading the news cycle and it's pulling people uh to her and she's standing out uh taves on the other

00:18:55.600 hand for people who do want a feeling of stability uh he's the establishment candidate there's no doubt

00:19:01.020 about it and that's a significant number of people who don't want to rock the boat they just want

00:19:05.100 what they feel to be uh secure steady government so i think it's a race between those two at this

00:19:09.800 point and as much as there's a very broad field of other contenders they're still in an also ran

00:19:14.820 status you're just not hearing anything about them yeah i think the beauty of daniel smith's campaign is

00:19:20.760 she's leading with her chin you know she doesn't do what we see a lot of politicians do when they have

00:19:26.980 a past scandal and they say well i've already addressed that you know i've already answered that

00:19:32.360 question she never says that she takes all these questions about her past and continues to answer

00:19:38.200 them and also apologize she keeps admitting she was wrong and i think she's reading the room well

00:19:44.460 in that she's looking at the things jason that probably cost jason kennedy the leadership probably

00:19:50.300 knocked about 15 off and it that's the civil liberties the the people who care about civil liberties

00:19:55.940 couldn't bring themselves just to uh vote for um to vote to keep them on the job she's looking at that

00:20:03.620 and saying okay that was a major issue for people it's going to be a major issue for me yeah and she's

00:20:10.340 she's i guess you know gathering certain core groups of supporters and very motivated ones like

00:20:15.520 the people with the civil liberties over the pandemic lockdowns as well with people who were uh you know

00:20:20.220 western alienated individuals whether they're looking for full independence or at least just chafing

00:20:25.300 under confederation and i think it's very smart because when it comes to a leader a membership

00:20:29.320 based race these are people who will buy memberships and they will come out to vote which is critical

00:20:33.780 as much as taves is is targeting the people who want steady as she goes those are also people who

00:20:38.640 aren't terribly angry or upset and it's going to be really hard to get them out to take the time

00:20:42.680 and and cast that ballot the worry is will that translate into a winnable base of support if she becomes

00:20:50.480 the leader of the party because then the general election is coming and that gives a whole lot of

00:20:55.200 wedges for notley to start attacking and and she will and as much you know you can't underestimate

00:21:00.720 that ndp we certainly learned that lesson so hopefully she doesn't come into a winning the

00:21:06.280 battle and losing the war scenario but we'll see as things unfold yeah i think also taves has uh

00:21:13.100 i guess in some circles the stigma of being one of jason kenney's right-hand men and jason kenney is

00:21:20.900 unlike by a lot of the party membership but also the mainstream media yeah but taves of all the

00:21:28.840 cabinet senior cabinet members he seems to have gathered the least of it i mean he was also one

00:21:32.960 of the ones sitting on the sky palace but nobody remembers that they remember jason nixon they

00:21:37.820 remember you know the the other cabinet but taves always kind of slides under the radar i mean he's a

00:21:42.780 smart guy he's a solid guy he's got no personal scandal attached to him but he's dull as dishwater he's

00:21:48.580 boring but that's an advantage sometimes steven harper spent spent 10 years in government being

00:21:55.720 boring yeah exactly so so i mean you can't call it a full uh disadvantage it depends i mean justin

00:22:01.540 trudeau is a lot of flash and fireworks or he was and look what that got us so uh you know you taves

00:22:08.120 is a it's a serious campaign absolutely and i he's definitely going to be tied to the kenney

00:22:13.520 administration but he's he's i guess of all the senior members of it he was the best place to

00:22:18.920 break free from that yeah yeah yeah he doesn't have the full kenny stink um now cory i know that you

00:22:26.580 you've got to get going and so do i but how do people find the work of the western standard and

00:22:32.100 more importantly uh throw some support behind the western standard to keep independent journalism going

00:22:37.000 uh it's much appreciated yeah we're at westernstandard.news and we're subscribed

00:22:41.640 subscription based just like you guys at rebel um which keeps us accountable to the viewers and

00:22:46.340 readers rather than the government like the other ones so just head out to westernstandard.news check

00:22:50.840 out what we've got and a person can take out a trial subscription and see if we're worth following

00:22:55.700 up on i believe you are thanks cory have a great day we'll talk again very very soon you bet thanks

00:23:03.160 well this is the portion of the show wherein we actually welcome your viewer feedback unlike the

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00:23:43.280 through those comment sections too sometimes for viewer feedback but this week it's from the email

00:23:49.180 and it's from sandy who writes to me hi sheila i wanted to express our tremendous appreciation

00:23:55.080 for all you and the rebel news gang provides in the way of alternate journalism from the mainstream

00:24:01.020 nonsense we've been subjected to as many canadians i was not cognizant of how far the media has swung

00:24:07.120 to misinformation until the events of february 18th to 20th in ottawa especially after having enjoyed

00:24:13.320 the incredible atmosphere with the truckers convoy on february 5th and 12th witnessing the unbelievable

00:24:19.180 actions that occurred and the scandals and hypocrisy from the government and all is nothing short of

00:24:23.600 astonishing and criminal what has happened to canada we are in the midst of moving and very

00:24:27.920 busy but i listened to much of rebel news programming and wanted to let you know to please keep up the

00:24:32.220 great work thank you again sandy and steve cree you know sandy and steve i i don't think you're alone

00:24:40.320 in your sudden epiphany about just how bad the mainstream media really is i think people know that

00:24:46.960 the mainstream media was bad but a lot of people saw it firsthand they saw the lies unfolding around

00:24:55.060 them a lot of people had visited the convoy in ottawa or visited other smaller convoys and demonstrations

00:25:02.380 in their own city and they were able to see for themselves what the media was showing them were lies

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00:25:30.140 pro justin trudeau narrative well everybody that's the show for tonight thank you so much for tuning in

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Rebel News Podcast - July 14, 2022

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Cory Morgan on Calgary's $87B climate plan and the CPC leadership race

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