SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Daily Wire's Knowles CPAC speech sends the mainstream media into a fake news frenzy
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In the wake of a controversial speech by conservative commentator Michael Knowles, the liberal media is trying to smear him as a "genocidal" hate monger. Kennedy Hall of Life Site joins me to explain why this is nonsense.
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Michael Knowles of The Daily Wire gave a speech over the weekend where he said that
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no matter how much surgery is involved, men cannot be women and women cannot be men.
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And so now the liberal media is accusing him of, I guess, being literally Hitler?
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I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
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The problem with transgenderism is not that it is inappropriate for children under the age of
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nine. The problem with transgenderism is that it is not true. The problem with transgenderism
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is that it puts forward a delusional vision of human nature that denies the reality and
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importance of sexual difference and complementarity. The problem with transgenderism
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is that its acceptance at any level necessarily entails the complete destruction of women's
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bathrooms, women's sports, all of the specific rights and spaces that women currently have for
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themselves. There can be no middle way in dealing with transgenderism. It's all or nothing. If
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transgenderism is true, if men really can become women, then it is true for everybody of all ages.
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If transgenderism is false, as it is, if men and women really are different, as we are,
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then it is false for everybody too. And if it is false, then we should not indulge it,
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especially since that indulgence requires taking away the rights and customs of so many people.
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If it is false, then for the good of society, transgenderism must be eradicated from public life
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entirely. The whole preposterous ideology at every level. Have I made myself clear?
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That is Michael Knowles from his Monday Daily Wire show, reading verbatim from the speech he gave
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at CPAC over the weekend. He calls for compassion for the transgender community, but he also calls for
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a return to objective reality. Now, you might disagree with Knowles' viewpoint, or maybe you do agree with
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his viewpoint, but you don't quite like how he said it, or maybe the fact that he said it out loud.
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But you cannot, in good conscience, say that he said anything genocidal in there. But that didn't
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stop Rolling Stone, Huffington Post, and Yahoo for saying that he called for genocide, that he called
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for the murder of people who identify as transgender. I mean, it's insane to publish a headline like that.
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But they let their articles and their malicious headlines stand until Knowles threatened them
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with libel. You see, these companies have zero self-awareness whatsoever. They missed the irony
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of them critiquing Knowles' desire to return to the truth by lying about him. They lied about him
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while he was saying, you know what we need to do, guys? Go back to the truth. And these media companies
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were so brazen in their lying that they lied about something that was captured on video for the
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world to see so that the world could fact check the lies in real time. Now, one of the few people
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who actually got the story right the first time around and reported on what Knowles said accurately
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was my friend Kennedy Hall from LifeSite. He's not been on my show before, but I've been on his.
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And while I'm annoyed at the lies of the mainstream media, it's a really good opportunity to invite
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Kennedy onto my show to discuss the mainstream media's absolute apoplexy about somebody who
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might disagree with them on the issue of transgenderism. We're also discussing the
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treatment of a Christian pastor in Calgary, Derek Reimer. To learn more about his story,
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go to SavePastorDerek.com. At that website, you can make a donation to offset his legal fees.
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Reimer was just released from jail after the city of Calgary criminalized disagreeing with drag queens
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who read books to small children at the local municipal library. Is there some sort of
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correlation between men in cross-sex burlesque costumes and childhood literacy rates that I am
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just missing somewhere? Can anybody help me with that? Anyway, here's my interview with Kennedy. Take a
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listen. Joining me now is somebody new to, I think, viewers of my show. But if you follow my Twitter
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account, you know that I quite frequently interact with him. It's Kennedy Hall from LifeSite, but he's
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also an author, and we'll get to that at the end of the show. Thanks for agreeing to this interview,
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Kennedy. Well, thanks, Sheila. Back when I had a radio show, you came on as a guest a few times,
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so it was my pleasure to return the favor. That's great. Thank you so much. Now, you write a lot
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about things happening in the culture wars, because I think that's really the battleground
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for humanity. And one of the things that I found really fascinating over the last couple days,
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and I'll get you to give us the backstory, you'll do a better job than I will, but Michael Knowles
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of the Daily Wire was speaking at CPAC. And he gave a very reasonable speech. And he was accused
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very quickly of genocide, literally genocide by the mainstream media. You were one of the few people
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on the entire planet who got the story right the first time around. So I'll shut up. You tell us
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exactly what happened. Sure. So what's the CPAC stand for? Conservative Political Action Coalition,
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I think. At the CPAC conference down in Washington area, Michael Knowles gave one of the speeches on
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Saturday. And actually, I had to report on the thing all day. I was working a Saturday, and I watched a
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bunch of speeches. And I have to say his was the best. It was far and away the best. Just very well
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scripted, very articulate, very packed a lot of punch. Anyway, his speech was essentially
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conservatives, okay? You can't keep shaking hands with the sexual revolution and think you can remain
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conservative. So he started off the speech talking about, you know, he said, it's like conservatives
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are always defending something that liberals were defending 10 years ago. And he said, you know,
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so in the 1970s, it was like, oh, those bra burning feminists saying they don't need a man
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are crazy. And then a few years later, well, that's fine. But they'll tell you that sexual
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revolution stuff. Now that's crazy. And then a few years later, he said, well, that sexual
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revolution stuff, that's, that's okay. But that redefinition of marriage stuff, now that's crazy.
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And then a few years later, it was, well, that's fine. But this transgenderism stuff, now that's
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crazy. And he says, now it's, well, trans and kids in grade three is bad, but grade four is fine,
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you know? And this is just something, sadly, we see with conservative leaders, I mean, especially
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ours in Canada, you know? And he said, the thing is about the transgender issue
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is it's really just a matter of reality. You know, I get, you know, you and I are both Catholics and
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okay, we, we believe traditional Catholic beliefs on sexuality, but I understand the
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logic of how, you know, somebody can still be a very traditionally minded person, but
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maybe disagree on certain aspects of how one ought to live in their personal life. I get
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that. But the trans thing, it's medical. Like it's just, you know, you just, you are a guy
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or you're not, you know, it's not very complicated. It's not an ideology. It shouldn't
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be. This is very, it's like, you have two, two legs and two arms. You have certain
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genitalia. You don't, I mean, these are very basic things. And he said, this is the sort
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of battleground where conservatives have to stand firm. And he said, you know, of all
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the things conservatives cave on, the one thing in America they didn't cave on was life
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and they won. And he says, so stop caving on everything. And then he finally said, and
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then this is the line that was the title of our article, because I knew it was going to
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be the one that would get the clicks. But he said, you know, transgenderism must be eradicated
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from public life. Now, clearly, if you watch the speech, he did not say any persons had to
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be eradicated. He was talking about the philosophy of transgenderism. This idea that you can deny
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reality and that you can encourage children do things that harm themselves in a perpetual
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way by having surgeries and so forth. He said, this is insane. Everyone agrees that it's insane
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and it just has to stop. And that's what he was referring to.
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And yeah, it's the likes of Rolling Stone. I think if you search for the Rolling Stone article,
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you'll get their old headline first. But if you click through, it's the we just got threatened
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with a lawsuit headline that actually pops up. And they wrote it up saying CPAC speaker calls for
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transgender people to be eradicated. Now, you can listen to his speech. It's on YouTube. He read
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from his speech on I think it was Tuesday's Michael Knowles show. He just read his speech and he said,
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I choose my words very carefully. I didn't say that. And he, for once, it's nice to see,
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although maybe it's a little more difficult in the United States to threaten people with libel lawsuits.
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Because the bar is so high there. I think, you know, First Amendment country, I get it.
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But he threatened them with a lawsuit. And that's refreshing to see because it follows the theme
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of his speech. Fight back for truth in all aspects of your life, which he did. You know,
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he saw these hit pieces roll in and he said, you know what, you better fix that because this is
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libel. And they very quickly did. But he was written up as some sort of genocidal maniac,
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like the pole pot of the American conservative Christian right. But that's not at all what he said.
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No, it's not. I, I can relate. I released a book about masculinity back in 2020. And I say in it,
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effeminacy, which means being an unvirtuous and soft man, that's what it means, must be eradicated.
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And people said, you called for the eradication of all gay men. And I was like, what? Anyway,
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so I've been through this. I was literally one of the critiques. The left, they don't have any
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arguments. They have to, they have to resort to your literally Hitler. They have nothing else.
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So, but it's interesting that Noel's talking about this idea in his speech. I don't know if you saw,
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he reported on his show about Naib Bukele, the, the president of El Salvador. And there was a,
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a section of a press conference of his that kind of went viral. And he talked about why he was
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throwing all of the, um, criminals in jail, the way he was, which just seemed like they're in jail
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because they're criminals. Um, but he's basically, and I mean, El Salvador was one of the most corrupt
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gang ridden earth, those Mara Salvatruchas and all these sorts of gangs. And, um, they basically
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run the country and he's, I can't believe he hasn't been Epstein'd yet because he took a crusade
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against it. And, um, but he used an analogy. He said, after the Nazis were in charge in Germany,
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the country of Germany cleansed Nazism from the country. And he says they were unrelenting.
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Uh, they literally broke, they, they didn't dig up the graves, but if someone had a tombstone with
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a Nazi symbol on it, they had took down the tombstone and put a new one up. Uh, you know,
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if you, if you spray a swastika on the train station or something, it's like, you're in jail
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for like five years, like not even a chance of a defense, you know, there's just, it might sound
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harsh, but the point is, is that there's just a certain disorder that's so, uh, it's such a disease
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in a culture, uh, that the state exists for a reason. And it's to ensure the common welfare and
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the public and the public good. And this thing has to be eradicated. Um, and he said, gang stuff is
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like that in our country, it's destroying the country. It's destroying families, destroying
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lives. You know, we have to go nuclear on it. There is no other option. And I think Knowles
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was referring to that mentality of, again, people are going to choose to live the way they want in
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their personal life. What he's saying is all, all, you know, all, um, shadows of this must be removed
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from public life because it's actually bad for the human race as a whole.
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Yeah. I, I don't, you know, I'm, I try not to turn the show into Sheila's Catholic catechism hour,
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um, you know, but you shouldn't have invited me on then. Well, but at the same time, I lead with my
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chin. I always tell people, unlike the CBC, I want my bias to be clear to the viewer. And I think
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they're smart too. They can see right through it. Um, so I think even people who are not like me,
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who don't see the world to a very specific worldview, they can believe in objective truth.
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And like, like you said, people can choose to live their lives. However, they see fit
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in their private lives or even in, you know, in their lives, but it is objective truth that no
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matter the amount of medical procedures, uh, man is a man and a woman is a woman. And however,
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we alter the outward appearance, it doesn't change the biological reality of that individual
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and to tell someone otherwise is unkind and cruel.
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It's also like, you know, you and I were talking about this quickly before we came on the air.
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How did this happen so fast? Like, so I, I was a teacher. I was subsequently canceled. I haven't
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actually gone public with the story yet all the way, but I was reprimanded by the Ontario
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college of teachers for my Catholic beliefs. I have it on recording. Uh, and I taught in a
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Catholic school anyway. Um, but, uh, Alexander'd you. Well, it was, yeah, it was like, um, well,
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it's like what Peterson's going through right now with the, um, psychology board. Yeah. I was told my
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Catholic beliefs were abusive to students. That was literally what they said anyway. So, um,
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uh, but I remember teaching this grade 12 class in 2015, 2016, and I loved this class was a great class.
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And it was a religion class. And I, there was that video that went viral. Remember that video
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college kids say the darndest things. It was like one of the first, uh, videos about the transgender
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ideology was from the family policy Institute of Washington or something. Went around to college
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campuses, you know, okay. Can I identify as a man? Sure. Okay. Can I identify as a, as a six or a six,
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but he was a, he was a guy. Can I identify as a woman? Sure. Can I identify as a six foot five woman?
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Well, no, you can't really do that. Can I identify as a six foot five Chinese woman? Well,
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that's too far. And he was trying to get to the point of, okay, what, by what standard? And, um,
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I had this debate with my class. I showed my class. No wonder I got reprimanded. Um,
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they loved it. They had a wonderful debate. And the sentiment in the class was not this crazy
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woke thing you would expect from a 17 or 18 year old now. And this was only eight years ago.
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And, but we watched it as educators filter into the school and be pushed down our throat. And you
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just realize, listen, kids are indoctrinated for better, for worse, you know, propaganda to go back
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to our Catholicism, it literally means a propagation of belief. So propaganda is bad. If what you're
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propagating is bad, propaganda is good. If what you're propagating is true. And the propaganda
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propaganda that's being thrown at these kids is just demonstrably evil. They are doing things to
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harm their bodies. I went to the March for life last year. I saw David Menzies there in Ottawa and
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these poor kids, it was broke my heart. You know, these 16 year old kids and they've cut their breasts
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off and stuff and they're not wearing shirts because they're a guy now and they're just out there. And
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it's like, it's so tragic and you don't get there. It just didn't exist the way it didn't exist 10 years
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ago. It's because it's being taught to the kids. And again, if a person grows up and they make a
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decision to do something that I think is wrong, this is called living in a society. It is what it is,
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but you don't get to teach things to children that harm them forever. And that's the problem.
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Yeah. I had a friend who used to look at kids who suddenly caught this social contagion and she
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would look at them and say, you know, we have to have compassion. These kids are future suicides
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if we don't do something. And really that's what it is because there will come a time where they
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will realize that they've been misled by everybody they trusted. So that just the extreme sense of
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betrayal and the realization of what they've done to their bodies. I don't know how you come back
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from that. And there's the whole other side. You have a daughter, I've got a daughter, a couple of
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daughters. This idea that men are women changes the world they live in for the worse. My daughter is
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an elite level rugby player. The day that she has to square off against a boy in the ruck is the last
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game she ever plays after she's worked her whole life. And that's just my daughter. I mean, this sort
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of thing is robbing opportunity from hardworking girls all over the world. And the feminists are like
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this. Yeah. Yeah. It's, uh, again, you don't have to be religious. It's just about the natural law.
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Yeah. You know, there are just, you know, uh, if you say something's right or you say something's
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wrong, okay, you're appealing to a standard that just is there. You know, it's like the constitution
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of the United States. You know, these truths are self-evident. There's just certain things that
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are self-evident. It is self-evident that men and women are different. It is self-evident that not only
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are they different physiologically, but they have certain predispositions that are feminine and
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certain predispositions that are masculine. They share a lot, but some of them are unique.
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Um, and we can't eradicate these. We can't, you know, ironically, Michael Knowles saying we have to
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eradicate this ideology from society. He's literally just saying the photo negative of what the leftists
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are saying, because they'll say things all the time. You know, we have to destroy, we have to eradicate
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white, white privilege or whatever, right? Pick the thing. And it's like, that's insane.
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You know? So I think Michael knows is correct, but if you're using the same method, you can't be mad at
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the guy for using the same, you know, for using the opposite. And you mentioned these kids that
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are abused or these kids that are future suicides and stuff. This is a sad reality as well. And I taught
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in the high school with a thousand kids and I've taught elementary school. If I think of the dozen or
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so kids that were in the school that sort of gotten into the gender stuff, almost all of them
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were from disordered, broken and abused homes. I can't, I actually think all the ones I'm thinking
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of, I can't think of one kid who came from, you know, a quote unquote, like, you know, white middle
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class home. That was everything was hunky dory intact families. I'm sure there are. I'm just saying,
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I can't think of a single one. Um, it was almost always kids who came from homes where there was
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a fatherhood problem, a drug problem, multiple dads sort of thing, extreme poverty. And
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there has got to be a predatory nature to how these people are going after these kids.
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What's with the great drag queen story hours? Like, can we just, I mean, I know you guys talk about it.
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We talk about a life site. This is nothing new to us, but my goodness, how do we get to the point
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where, you know, I've got five children and we've got a library a hundred meters from our house.
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And luckily we're in a small town. Nothing kind of woke has happened there yet,
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but how are we at the point? Yeah. That I'm like, my wife wants to take kids to the library
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and I'm like, we need to double check if a naked man is going to dress up like a woman with a thong on
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and, and, and with rainbow sunglasses, what is going on? Yeah. You know, it's, it's really is
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crazy. And it all comes from a place of the denial of reality. And of course it's predatorial.
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Otherwise they wouldn't be doing it to kids. Well, that's the thing. You want to read a book
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to kids? Yeah. Read a book to kids. Yeah. Put some clothes on. What do I care? Why do you have to do
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it in sequined ladies underpants? Like, why do you have to do it in a cross sex burlesque costume?
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And one of the questions I get all the time is Sheila, why are parents doing this? Why are they
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taking them there? And you know, for so many parents on the left, they don't see their child
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as, um, you know, I see my kids as I have these three opportunities to make the world a better
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place. So I have to do it right. I have to make sure that they are good, productive people who will
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to use Jordan Peterson's language, bring order out of chaos to do good in the world, not just be good
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good or try to be good, but do good around them. And I think the left sort of sees their children
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as an accessory, like a, like a button on their jean jacket that says like love wins. That's how
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they look at their children. And, you know, to, to, again, I try to avoid turning the show into
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Sheila's catechism hour, but you know what? There were always, there were always parents willing to,
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for whatever reason, put their babies up on the altar of Moloch. And yes, you know,
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well, no, you're right. It looks in different ways in different times,
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you know, if you don't have strong values, even if, even, even if you're whatever different
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denomination of religion, but if you don't have strong foundation in an absolute truth
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that you believe you are beholden to for the sake of the salvation of your soul,
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if that's not something that you're willing to stick by, um, then you're going to fall for things.
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And also too, I mean, we could have an analogy here with all the COVID stuff we went through.
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Um, why did so many people fall for this, for the, for the, the narrative, for the scam,
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for whatever you want to call it, you know, we can believe different things about the virus,
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but why do people fall for that thing, that whole, that whole paradigm? And it's because
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for the longest time we've had this Marxist inspired school mechanism where we are told
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that from a young age that we have, it's funny, they got rid of original sin and they called it
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white privilege. They got rid of it. You know, like we're told that we have a problem that can only
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be fixed by the experts. And this is, this is long before COVID. This is long before drag queen story
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hour. So you get to the point of, well, listen, like I talked to a family member who lives out in
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Vancouver and he went all woke and he's like, well, Kennedy, you know, I got to recognize about
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myself that it's like 2020 and I've got to like embrace the way things are going. Cause like,
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I can't be a bigot. And I'm like, who said you were a bigot? Yeah. Well, the culture said you
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were a bigot. The mechanism said you're a bigot. You were told that your traditional values
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were psychologically disordered. And I think a lot of parents, they're just, they've imbibed this and
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it's like, well, the public education system's good. The public library is good. The prime minister
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is good. They're telling me I should do this. So if I'm going to be good, I have to, I really think
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it's that simple. Yeah. You know, I think you have a wonderful point there. Now sticking with,
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well, not sticking with, but it seems as though a lot of good things are happening over at the
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daily wire lately. Matt Walsh, Catholic like us, he called out Christian leaders for their absolute
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silence by and large, not, not exclusively on the issue of, uh, drag queen story hours and
00:25:15.920
transgenderism and pastors getting arrested, uh, Tucker Carlson, same thing. Where are the
00:25:20.820
professional Christians while pastors are getting arrested? Um, and it happened, it came from my own
00:25:27.320
church, you know, when, when, um, Tim Stevens is going to church for, or going to jail for not turning
00:25:33.520
away a congregant at the door, um, being unable to sign conditions that would force him to turn
00:25:39.560
away congregants. Um, or when James Coates is being incarcerated for, um, five weeks for the very
00:25:46.700
same thing, you could hear a pin drop throughout the Christian movement in this country with, again,
00:25:59.020
Oh man. I mean, I guess from a religious perspective, almost nobody believes in hell
00:26:08.120
anymore. I mean, I'm just being honest, like the idea that you actually have to be like Christ and
00:26:13.700
die that way. And like, you can't just apostatize because the government told you to that's anathema
00:26:19.860
to so many people, even conservatives, even people who are morally conservative, uh, because they've
00:26:27.060
adopted this very modern post-modernist biblical scholars attitude of like, you know, uh, Christianity
00:26:35.680
is about finding the best version of yourself. Uh, and this is our tradition and yes, we're pro-life
00:26:42.080
and pro-marriage because those things are better for you. It's very human centered. Whereas these,
00:26:46.640
these pastors and these priests who were willing to do things underground or, you know, however they
00:26:52.080
chose to do it, but like to say, I'm going to serve my flock, no matter what, um, they have a
00:26:59.180
horror, they have a vertical mindset. They look up to God. They don't look, they don't look horizontal
00:27:04.960
to man, uh, because they understand that we're ordered towards God. So that's just gone in a lot
00:27:12.200
of people, you know, we suffer, we're suffering in the Catholic church because of some of the leadership
00:27:15.940
and it's the same problem as what's happening in the Protestant denominations. And, you know,
00:27:20.500
these few men who stick their heads up, like father Altman down in the States or these canceled
00:27:24.860
priests and stuff, they stick their head up and a bishop wax it down. And, um, and then I guess from
00:27:30.580
a very natural perspective, um, cities or whether it's, um, uh, whether it's, uh, you know, tax breaks
00:27:45.380
or whether it's grants or whatever the thing is, they get financially compensated. They get, um,
00:27:55.400
they get, uh, sustained by government, either programs or funding. And here in Canada,
00:28:01.240
I remember talking to the justice center for free, for constitutional freedoms back in
00:28:06.920
May of 2020. I found this is before they blew up, right? We have, we have life side of you,
00:28:11.260
you got rebel. We've been, we've been, we've been, uh, trumpeting these guys the whole time
00:28:15.320
because they've done such great work, but they were very small then. And, uh, I messaged them
00:28:20.640
on Twitter and I said, why is it that my, my church has to be closed, even though we in theory have
00:28:27.860
freedom of religion. And he said, the difference between us and the States is that property rights
00:28:32.840
are constitutional in the States. In Canada, they're not common law is supposed to be common
00:28:40.500
law works great if the people are saying, so in the spirit of the law would not be to take
00:28:46.900
somebody's church for holding Easter service. But he said, the problem is technically it's not
00:28:52.600
protected by the constitution. So the government can just take your property. And if you have a
00:28:58.920
license, which they have to, because they have public kitchens and things like that,
00:29:02.760
they're literally licensed by the government. It's not a private residence. And he said,
00:29:06.320
that's the issue. So I think from Canada, that's a very practical thing is these pastors knew that
00:29:09.960
they would just get their churches taken away. And then, you know, the ones that did,
00:29:15.240
they continued to minister and actually their churches are growing. I know Tim Stevens,
00:29:19.120
he's looking for a bigger facility, grace life. They're looking for a bigger facility. I think
00:29:23.360
Pastor Art's outgrown his facility. And it's just, it's so disappointing, but also not because,
00:29:32.580
you know, again, Sheila's catechism, our were also told these things would happen. And, and,
00:29:38.760
yes, you know, this is a church that is soaked in the blood of martyrs. And I'm looking at my church
00:29:43.860
saying, why are you scared of Dina Hinshaw? And that happened universally. Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:52.800
Yeah. We just, we just had a men's conference. My chapel put on a men's conference for,
00:29:59.560
it was, it was the Canadian martyrs men's conference. And the reason we chose the martyrs
00:30:03.400
is because, Hey boys, you know, you want to take back your country and have strong families and
00:30:09.020
stuff. Look what those missionaries did who came over. They, they, and again, they love the natives.
00:30:16.020
That's why they were willing to go and get scurvy just to preach them the gospel. You don't do that
00:30:20.580
for somebody you don't like. Um, and they were our heroes, you know, they, they shed their blood
00:30:25.640
for, for, to spread, you know, the gospel of Jesus Christ to Canada. And, uh, we need to recapture
00:30:31.080
that. We need to recapture that spirit. If we're going to beat this woke monster.
00:30:35.180
Um, well, I know we, I said 20 minutes were way over, but I still, okay, perfect. Yeah. I don't have
00:30:42.080
a meeting for another half an hour. So, um, I also wanted to talk to you about how damaging
00:30:47.040
the way the left talks is to the language. For example, going back to the Michael Knowles thing,
00:30:55.540
the use of the word genocide or the use of the word Nazi Nazi now just means anybody I disagree with or
00:31:03.000
any prickly conservative who won't shut up when, when I scold them, that's what it means. The only
00:31:09.660
people that actually helps are real Nazis because you serve to normalize one of the worst evils that's
00:31:15.360
ever walked the face of the earth. Um, I, I, what I found, and I hate to use the word offensive
00:31:20.620
because offensive usually means you can't control your emotions. But what I found so offensive about
00:31:25.180
labeling Michael Knowles speech genocide was that I've actually been to two places where a genocide
00:31:31.740
actually took place. You know, when we, I was in Poland for the climate change conference,
00:31:37.520
my producer and I said, you know what, we're in Poland. When are we going to get this opportunity
00:31:41.220
again? Let's jump on the train. Let's go to Auschwitz. Let's see, just let's ground ourselves
00:31:47.580
and give ourselves that context when we're talking about this or when, when somebody on the left tries
00:31:53.560
to shut us up by calling, uh, calling us Nazis, let's go look and see how damaging that is to the
00:32:00.680
language and reality. But also in 2019, I was in the Nineveh plane, um, where the Christians there
00:32:07.360
survived the ISIS genocide and they've returned. You know, part of the reason I went there was because
00:32:15.020
we were working with, um, Mercury one with the, um, Nazarene fund. And we went there to say to the
00:32:24.220
Christians, look, you've survived a genocide. How do we get you somewhere else that you need to go?
00:32:29.560
How do, how do we get you from here? How do we resettle you? Uh, Mercury one works with churches.
00:32:34.820
Um, how do we help you give you what you need? And they said, we don't want to go. We need electricity.
00:32:40.680
We need services in our town. We need to go back. We need to go back to Batnaya. ISIS will not take
00:32:48.160
our home on the Nineveh plane. I saw where ISIS had defiled the church. They used the spire to,
00:32:57.020
um, as like a sniper's nest. They went to the graveyard and dug up the graves of the Christians,
00:33:04.520
smashed the headstones, turned it to rubble. Um, and it was funny. The local priest said, okay,
00:33:09.320
well, I'm just going to take the rubble from the graveyard and turn it into, um, paving stones in
00:33:15.000
the new, uh, children's, um, Sunday school that he was building. So even, even in that he would not be
00:33:20.600
defeated, but I, I've seen what an actual genocide looks like. You diminish the survivors of a genocide
00:33:29.980
and how evil a genocide is by just saying somebody disagreed with me. You genocided me.
00:33:36.780
Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. Um, it's like little children having a tantrum. They don't have
00:33:44.160
many words left. So they just, he scratched me, you know, he, daddy, my, my children do this all
00:33:49.200
the time. Yeah. He, he tried to kill me. It's like, no, he didn't anyway. Um, you know, daddy,
00:33:55.280
he almost drowned me. It's like, you're wrestling in the water and you lost. They didn't try to drown
00:34:00.000
you, you know? And, um, this is what they do. It, it really is sad. Like, you know, again,
00:34:06.680
it doesn't even make sense. Grammatically, you can't genocide transgender because it's not like
00:34:13.440
you couldn't even, I don't even think that would count as genocide because it's not like some sort
00:34:18.180
of identifiable, like race of people. Like, what does it even mean? Like, does that mean,
00:34:24.760
you know, buddy who dress up, but we used to say transvestite. I remember again, you know,
00:34:29.240
this has gone so fast. I remember being at university of Ottawa and I worked in the Starbucks at the
00:34:34.780
chapters there. Oh, so you saw it all. Yeah. But it wasn't that bad then. Like it was,
00:34:39.720
I mean, this was, there was a, uh, a fella. He was a man, uh, but he lived as a woman and he worked
00:34:46.820
at the chapters and no one cared because it was just like what he did. He was very kept to himself,
00:34:56.180
very kind. And, uh, but they called him a transvestite. That's what he was called then.
00:35:01.880
You know, my point here is, is what does it even mean to be transgender? Like with all these things,
00:35:06.680
how could you even say this is an identifiable group? I'm going to genocide. So it doesn't even
00:35:09.600
really fit the definition besides the fact that it cheapens the definition. Um, and it's just a boy
00:35:15.860
who cried wolf. You know, you teach this to your kids. If you keep lying, then when something bad
00:35:19.700
actually happens and no one's going to listen to you. Um, so I don't, I can't, I mean, I can't
00:35:27.280
understand the left's mentality. It must be so exhausting. I mean, you want to be so angry all
00:35:32.340
the time. I can't imagine like, like thinking everybody's like a mass murderer. That'd be such
00:35:38.860
a terrible way to live. Yeah. I mean, how do you have fun? I don't know. It's so weird.
00:35:44.340
Well, yeah. Like how do you have fun? How do you live your life when society is telling you
00:35:48.620
that everybody who looks like you, Kennedy is going to kill you, who wants to eradicate you from
00:35:55.200
the face of the earth? No wonder they all have anxiety disorders on the left.
00:36:00.000
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How do you live? I mean, I, you know, I work, I'm in a similar line of work
00:36:06.620
at LifeSite News. I mean, yeah, there's some days I write some stories and man, it sucks. You know,
00:36:12.380
I'm like, that was a real bad, you know, I wrote a story. Oh, I, I wept at my desk. It was
00:36:18.220
a story about this young man in Toronto who died from the jab and it was confirmed by a,
00:36:23.500
an autopsy. And it was really, really sad. His dad's on Twitter answers for Sean. It's kind
00:36:28.380
of went famous, this story. And I had to listen to the story, like, you know, the, the, the public,
00:36:34.020
the, like the town hall call, he was calling into the meeting and stuff. And, and that was a really
00:36:40.760
bad day for me, you know? And, and so I, what I'm saying is I get it. Like you can be conservative,
00:36:45.860
liberal, and there's, there's reasons why there's bad news, but I can't imagine
00:36:52.880
the leftist mentality of believing that people's immutable characteristics, their race, their
00:37:02.520
gender, their ethnicity, like those things make the person bad. Yeah. I mean, really they're,
00:37:11.020
they're very racist for this case. But we need to understand they're very, very racist. The idea
00:37:16.640
that white privileges can even be a term is insane. It's how on earth does a guy who lives in
00:37:24.980
Slovenia in the 1990s, you know, with the Balkan Wars have privilege? This is, this is ridiculous.
00:37:35.960
How does, how does, you know, my no, no God rest his soul comes over to Canada with my mom and her
00:37:39.960
family in 1967. And he's 40 years old, has to restart his life because Italy was devastated after the wars
00:37:45.640
and the communists are taken over after Mussolini. It's just no one goods in charge. And he's got to
00:37:52.440
work, you know, 70 hours a week. I mean, his privilege was hard work. Yeah. You know, you can't
00:37:58.760
tell me that this guy had some sort of magical white power that, that, that, that got him like he
00:38:04.600
didn't, he just was like everyone else, you know? And, you know, the fact that this is, you know,
00:38:09.640
we even think, how do we even get to the point where we can talk about genocide? Well, I guess
00:38:13.080
it's, it's, it's the steps that got us there. I mean, again, we would be so inundated with these
00:38:21.180
terms like white privilege, but if you really break it down, it's so racist. Like you are saying
00:38:29.540
that a group of people have special powers because of their race. Can you imagine if you said that about
00:38:39.220
anybody else and they won't allow you to anyway, it just, uh, it really is, it really is fascinating.
00:38:45.820
And this would go back to the transgender thing because it's a denial of reality. You know, the
00:38:50.560
reason why the left can, can, can advocate for transgenderism is because they have, they have
00:38:55.280
decided that reality will not apply to them. You are a racist because you say white privilege isn't
00:39:00.280
a thing, even though white privilege itself is racist. Therefore you are also a bigot because you
00:39:06.000
don't think children should mutilate themselves, even though that's what we think they should do.
00:39:09.200
It's, it's just, it's, it's, it's like a disease. Yeah. It's a mind virus. It really is. Yeah.
00:39:14.740
Um, Kennedy, how do people find your work and support your work? Um, tell them about your books.
00:39:21.340
Um, sure. Tell everybody everything. Sure. So yeah, uh, I'm a journalist for LifeSite News.
00:39:27.140
I think I tried to wear my company logo here to make my bosses happy. There you go. I love my
00:39:31.100
company. It's a great place to work. Uh, us, True North, you guys, it's about it.
00:39:36.180
You know, holding down the fort here in Canada and, uh, it's a pleasure to be in, uh, colleagues.
00:39:41.480
Um, so LifeSite News, I write there two, three articles a day, Monday to Friday. You can find me
00:39:46.480
there. Some commentary, some straight news. Um, I have YouTube channel called the Kennedy report.
00:39:51.760
I do a bunch of very Catholic themed stuff, uh, there. Um, you can also, uh, I have, uh, two books.
00:40:01.120
Um, one is called, uh, terror of demons, reclaiming traditional Catholic masculinity.
00:40:06.280
And one is called lockdown with the devil. Uh, if you've ever read CS Lewis's screw tape letters,
00:40:11.000
uh, it is that style of book and it follows a family through the lockdown, uh, and what the demons
00:40:17.180
would do to their family. I actually, I think it's a good book. And then I, uh, yeah, that's about it.
00:40:23.360
That's all my stuff. Oh, I didn't know about the second book. I'm very excited. I bought the first
00:40:29.660
book for my friend who recently converted to Catholicism and, um, starting his family and
00:40:34.960
getting married. I'm like, this is the perfect book for you. Cool. Yeah. Uh, and he really enjoyed
00:40:39.340
it. So, uh, Kennedy, thanks so much for coming on the show. Um, I'm so sorry that this is the first
00:40:43.620
time you've been on the show, but hopefully you, we will be able to repeat it very soon.
00:40:56.020
Well, friends, we've come to the portion of the show where I invite your viewer feedback. Unlike
00:41:00.380
the mainstream media, I actually care about what you think about the work that we're doing
00:41:03.520
here at rebel news. It's the reason I give out my email address right now. So if you want it,
00:41:07.940
write it down. Well, it's easy to remember. It's Sheila at rebel news.com put gun show letters in the
00:41:12.820
subject line. So I know that you are sending me a letter directly related to the show because I do
00:41:17.580
get some days, hundreds, no exaggeration, hundreds of emails a day, but also don't hesitate to leave
00:41:25.160
a question or comment wherever you might find the work that we do on rumble or odyssey or the
00:41:31.820
censorship platform of YouTube, even on the Facebook page or on the website, leave a question or comment
00:41:38.560
there too. Sometimes I go looking over there. Now, today's letter actually landed in my email
00:41:43.260
inbox. It comes to me from Wayne and it's about a show I did a couple of weeks ago with my friend,
00:41:51.860
K2, Kian Simone. He's our chief documentary filmmaker here. And if you're watching this on Wednesday
00:41:57.320
night, then as you are watching this, I am currently in the middle of our last live screening of Kian's
00:42:07.340
latest documentary, Trudeau on trial to get details. You can go to Trudeau on trial.com. So even if you
00:42:13.880
aren't able to make it to the in-person screenings, if you are a subscriber to revenues, plus you get
00:42:18.420
early access to any of his documentaries. And it is also available in episodes on our main YouTube
00:42:26.900
channel. So there are a couple of different ways that you can find the documentary, but I think
00:42:31.640
the best way is in person with hundreds of friends you haven't met yet. Anyway, we were talking about
00:42:37.700
what prompted Kian's documentary. It documents his time and all of our time at what we called the
00:42:45.220
Trucker Commission, the Public Order Emergency Inquiry into Justin Trudeau's use of the Emergencies Act
00:42:51.280
on peaceful anti-regime protesters in the nation's capital. He used a wartime law, a counterterrorism law
00:42:58.840
on bouncy castles and hot tub parties and horn honking. I mean, it's just crazy. He apparently,
00:43:08.940
according to Commissioner Paul Rouleau, was justified because those aforementioned bouncy castles
00:43:16.740
amounted to a national security crisis that the government needed extraordinary tools to deal
00:43:23.360
with. And of course, the suspension of civil liberties, the arrests of leaders, the detainment
00:43:28.680
of people without warrant and the warrantless seizures of bank accounts. I mean, just insane.
00:43:34.760
But anyway, Wayne writes to me, when you asked K2 last week, what is next after the emergency
00:43:41.260
commission inquiry? I thought he'd spill his guts. But no. Does no one at Rebel News believe that
00:43:47.740
Justin Trudeau will not prorogue Parliament? Or is that topic unmentionable on air? Well,
00:43:52.740
I am currently mentioning it on air. So I don't know what you mean by that. But it's just not
00:43:57.200
something that I think Justin Trudeau will do. Now, for those of you who don't know, proroguing
00:44:01.960
Parliament is basically stopping and suspending Parliament. And it sounds extraordinary, but really,
00:44:09.180
it's not. It happens quite frequently, actually. In fact, it famously happened when the Liberals,
00:44:17.700
the Bloc Québécois, and the NDP tried to form a coalition to stop Stephen Harper from forming a
00:44:28.220
minority government. And so Harper prorogued Parliament, and he subverted their plan to take
00:44:35.220
over Parliament. And so it happens from time to time. But I don't think Justin Trudeau will do
00:44:41.940
that. Because he doesn't need to do that. Because the NDP are propping him up, no matter what. They
00:44:49.520
wouldn't say that even if Justin Trudeau was found unjustified in using the Emergencies Act, that they
00:44:54.700
would break their coalition with him. So why would he prorogue Parliament? He doesn't need to do
00:45:02.500
anything to hang on to power because the NDP are mindless and irrelevant and have given over all
00:45:08.260
their power to the Liberals. As long as the Liberals give them just a little bit of what they need,
00:45:13.620
they'll give the Liberals everything they need to hold on to power. It's quite pathetic, actually.
00:45:18.700
Anyway, let's keep going. Has no one there read the Marxist handbook? I don't know what you mean by
00:45:24.840
the Marxist handbook. So do you mean the Communist Manifesto written by Karl Marx? Yes, I did read it.
00:45:33.460
Or do you mean American Marxism by the incredible Mark Levin? I also did read that. That's sitting
00:45:40.020
in here. Because you want to know how this sort of crypto Marxism ends up in your institutions and
00:45:46.720
what that means in practice in your everyday life when these people are walking through our
00:45:51.120
institutions and changing things while we're too busy working hard and paying the bills. There's also
00:45:56.460
the sage handbook of Marxism because I thought, is there something that I'm missing the Marxist handbook?
00:46:01.800
The sage handbook on Marxism. I dug that one up on the internet and I thought that one was kind
00:46:08.460
of funny because it's a university level textbook, but it costs 400 British pounds to buy, which
00:46:16.360
hardly seems Marxist to me, right? Don't they want everything to be free? Anyway, so yes,
00:46:23.280
I have read it indeed. Wayne goes on to write, there is a tidal wave of criminal culpability
00:46:29.840
for which countless politicians and bureaucrats are answerable to. They would simply not allow
00:46:34.620
that to happen. I don't think they're ever going to be fully accountable. I just don't
00:46:39.860
think so. With the remainder of his mandate, does anyone doubt that the prime minister would
00:46:43.440
not solidify his power base? Again, he already has. And the way the writings are laid out in
00:46:52.020
Canada, it doesn't matter. We continue to vote in the West against Justin Trudeau, almost
00:47:00.900
solidly blue. And it doesn't matter because the power base for the liberals has been solidified
00:47:07.860
and it's been solidified for years. So they don't really need to do any sort of Marxist
00:47:14.680
seizure of power. It's already been done through the distribution of writings to Vancouver and to
00:47:23.960
the GTA and Montreal. You don't need to seize control of this country in some sort of communist
00:47:33.260
revolution. The suburban moms in the GTA are already doing that for Justin Trudeau.
00:47:41.020
Once empowered dictatorship does not accede to the seemingly antiquated suffrage system. Even if
00:47:46.040
Justin Trudeau steps down, his replacement would be just as tyrannical. Oh, I don't doubt that.
00:47:50.780
Look at the talent bench of the liberals. Who would, if Justin Trudeau just said, you know what,
00:47:59.700
this isn't for me, I'm going to go back to surfing and smoking dope. Who would replace him?
00:48:04.680
Chrystia Freeland. She cackled like some sort of goblin when she froze people's bank accounts
00:48:13.340
for the crime of simply disagreeing with Justin Trudeau on vaccine mandates. She cackled. She
00:48:20.680
devastated families and she thought it was funny. So yeah, would his replacement be just as tyrannical?
00:48:27.280
I actually think she would be worse because Justin Trudeau is an idiot. She is slightly less idiotic.
00:48:35.360
I don't think she's an intelligent woman, but she doesn't even pretend to give a down.
00:48:42.240
So I think that's quite sinister. Who in this country would protest the suspension of elections?
00:48:49.160
I don't need to suspend elections. You know you're going to win. Any civil protest would not be met by
00:48:55.760
Mr. Nice Guy next time. They weren't met with Mr. Nice Guy this time either in Ottawa. Can you
00:49:03.260
disabuse me of this mindset? I'm not disabusing you of the mindset that Justin Trudeau is a tyrannical
00:49:08.840
idiot or that his replacement would be probably worse. I'm just saying that the way the Canadian
00:49:16.540
electoral system is broken down and the system in which we exist, he doesn't have to
00:49:29.480
of Vancouver and Toronto and Montreal's voting habits. Unfortunately, that's just the way it is.
00:49:39.040
So I don't know what the solution is to fix that, but that's the system in which we live.
00:49:43.200
And as an Albertan, I'm keenly, keenly aware of the unfairness of it all.
00:49:48.500
Well, that's the show for tonight. Wayne, I hope that answered your question.
00:49:52.580
There's not anything at Rebel News that is unmentionable on air.
00:49:58.140
I can't speak for K2, but I just don't think that Justin Trudeau will prorogue Parliament
00:50:04.100
to indefinitely hang on to power. I just don't think he needs to.
00:50:08.020
Anyways, that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here
00:50:12.620
in the same time, in the same place next week. And as always, don't let the government tell you