SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ David Menzies on the Transgender rugby saga in Fergus Ontario
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Summary
In this episode of The Gunn Show, my friend and colleague, David Menzies, and I talk about a recent incident involving a trans woman and a male athlete on the Stony Creek Highlanders Rugby Team in Fergus, Ontario.
Transcript
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or the men who keep stealing our opportunities?
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I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
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What about the human rights of biological women
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As a mother, why would you expose your kids to a misogynist?
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Well, sometimes we all ask ourselves that, right?
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I think that is some of the most important journalism work
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trying to get to the bottom of what's going on in Fergus, Ontario.
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On the Highlanders rugby team, you see there's a male athlete
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named Ash Davis, or who calls himself Ash Davis,
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who has decided that he is deep down in his soul a woman.
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You see, he says he has a woman's soul, despite his very male body.
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And he has gone from being the hardest hitter on the male senior team
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to, I guess, obviously the hardest hitter on the female senior team.
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The women who are forced to compete against him are being put at risk.
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And the women who feel morally obligated to speak out
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are being bullied into silence by men telling them to sit down
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Joining me tonight to talk about all of this and more
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Last weekend, three, yes, three women's rugby players
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had to be removed from a game and treated for injuries
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Notice the reaction that he gets from the other teammates of Ash.
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Desperately trying to protect Ash from having to face the public.
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And the second one is why are these women defending him?
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I really wish that the female players who are upset about this
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okay, the fathers that are okay with their daughters competing against men,
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and that video very clearly shows that the men in attendance
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Yeah, they're going to equity and tolerance our mothers,
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daughters, and sisters right into a bunch of wheelchairs
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I understand Mr. Davis was the hardest-hitting player
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How is he being allowed to play against biological females?
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I think the idea is that you're not being tolerant of other people's beliefs.
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You think everyone has to believe what you believe.
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Ladies, what do you think about Mr. Davis injuring biological females?
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Ash, is it true that you were voted the hardest hitter on the male team
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Including a male player injuring female players.
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This guy, Ash Davis, he, three women on the Stony Creek Camel Team
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You were voted the hardest hitter on the male team last year.
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Doesn't that make things even more lethal for the biological females
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Oh, I see these ladies telling you not to talk.
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You're taking orders from these rugby players, sir.
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Do you agree with a biological male playing against biological females?
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It's technically harassment of the Ontario penal code.
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So joining me now is my friend and colleague, David Menzies,
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who has become one of the greatest advocates in this country
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Uh, he's been on the trail of the trans-identified, non-binary, biological male rugby player from
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Fergus, Ontario, who plays on the Fergus Highlanders.
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And like I said, uh, shocking, but not all that shocking because you're a man who cares deeply
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And I think you kind of like us women, but you, you are, uh, I think one of the strongest
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advocates for women in sport in this entire country.
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I mean, the very fact that David the Menzoid Menzies would be Canada's foremost feminist
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Especially when you have like Archie Bunker vibes.
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I'll take that as a, uh, as a compliment, Sheila.
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Uh, you are referring to, I guess it's a viral video, isn't it?
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Of what happened in Fergus on July 22nd when Ace Cameraman and super producer Efren and
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I went to Fergus to see firsthand what was almost unbelievable, which was a male.
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And I'm, you know, don't get any illusions, folks.
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I know when it comes to trans and non-binary, some guys like to give it the good old college
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try of trying to come across as a male, I think of Busty Lemieux at the Halton District
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School Board, you know, with the Zed Cup fake breasts.
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Well, he claims they're real, but that's another story.
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Uh, the blonde wig, the, um, the skin tight cycling shorts, but Ash Davis, Sheila, as you
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He's, it looks like he's suffering from the onset of male pattern baldness, got a little
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bulge where a woman shouldn't have a little bulge.
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Um, and then of course there's the impossible to ignore thigh muscles and arm muscles.
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And he is literally, Sheila, I would say a bio weapon.
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He is a biological male playing against biological females and his team mates, as you know, they
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They have been so brainwashed via indoctrination.
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They, they, you know, they went hysterical when Efren and I approached them chanting trans
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rights, uh, or sorry, uh, trans women are real women and, uh, uh, human rights for all.
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Some of them were cheering up, by the way, in your descriptor of Ash, you forgot one, which
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is lesbian because this woman, uh, in a hysterical state came running up to us and declared that
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So I'm thinking, okay, she's obviously a biological woman because I do see the presence of kids.
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So if she's Ash's wife and Ash is a woman and it's a woman who loves another woman, that's
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Or is there some new category out there, Sheila?
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But I have to tell you, um, we received some feedback, uh, which was, why didn't you ask
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In that case, it was, uh, the woman from Burlington.
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We did, we couldn't get any comments and near the change room.
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We did offer Burlington, uh, ladies to come on camera.
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So when we went the following week, uh, Sheila, on July 29th to Waterloo to see Fergus play
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the Waterloo team, uh, I made it, uh, a special mission to go to the Waterloo woman, Waterloo
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woman directly and say, um, what are your feelings on this?
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Uh, they were, you know, some were saying profanities, um, others were defaulting to,
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And then when I watched the video closely after the fact, I went, holy macro, uh, some of them
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were wearing the, uh, I guess the symbol of the trans community, the pink baby blue and
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And there were others who, well, um, they weren't saying anything at all.
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Now here's where it gets very interesting, Sheila, and it's leading to a follow-up story.
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Why were the women that weren't taking a stance for Ash Davis, why weren't they saying anything?
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Well, Sheila, turns out it was something else because a source who will not, uh, be identified,
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That's the way it is, folks, as you know, um, this person shared with me, uh, an email
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He is the president of the Waterloo County Rugby Club.
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Um, you know, Ash Davis, uh, being, uh, you know, on the field with the other Fergus
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players, this is all about the Canadian charter of human rights and the Ontario human rights
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code and, um, rugby Canada's trans inclusion policy, yada, yada, yada, yada.
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And then he ends it with a two prong threat, Sheila.
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And this absolutely blows me away and completely explains why those ladies who are upset about
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President of the Waterloo Rugby Club, any act or behavior that is deemed to be discriminatory
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and in contravention to these laws and policies will result in immediate expulsion from the
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And then Sheila, here's the other shoe that drops any act or behavior that is deemed to
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be motivated by hate will be immediately reported to police.
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Can you imagine, uh, Sheila, this woke wimp, this censorious thug, a biological male himself,
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although maybe I better ask him to make sure, but that's a moot point.
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He threatened these women with suspension from the team, one, and two, what, uh, a weekend
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in the holding cell at Waterloo Regional Police for hurting the feelings of Ash Davis.
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I don't, I'm no wonder no one will come forward and utter response.
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They're afraid clearly, Sheila, of the repercussions.
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This is a level of hate that I don't think women have seen in a very, very long time.
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Um, we've got a man thinking it's his right to co-opt womanhood just by putting on a blue
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And if it feels it's his right to steal opportunities from women on this team and hurt them because
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he has hurt women, three of them one time in one game.
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And then you have women being bullied into absolute silence with threat of criminal charges
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If they don't agree to allow themselves to be harmed by Ash Davis.
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I was saying to you on the live stream earlier before we, uh, filmed this, that, you know,
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in the olden times, there were periods at which, uh, society deeply hated women and reinforced
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I'm not, I am inclined to believe there were some instances of witchcraft going on, but if
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you were just like a groovy woman who didn't put her bun up tightly enough, maybe showed
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an ankle, maybe was a little bit too friendly with the men folk and knew a little bit too
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Like knowing that willow bark is akin to aspirin as a pain medicine.
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If you knew a little bit too much about that, you might get yourself accused of witchcraft
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And if you survived, they would dunk you again because the devil clearly helped you survive.
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There were times at which women were subject to this sort of stuff, but it, you have to
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appreciate just how truly reviled women are by these men who steal our opportunities.
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Think about the level of hatred you have to have for a woman to castrate yourself in a
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Turn your wiener inside out just so that you could be a better woman than us.
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I don't think we've experienced in a very, very long time.
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And when it comes to the definition of hate, what, what would be the benchmark for Mr.
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If one of the Waterloo players said, you know what?
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I stand with world rugby, the international governing body, which stated three years ago,
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fake woman cannot play with real woman, period.
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So Mr. Windsor thinks that saying that will be offensive to the sensibilities of Mr.
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Davis, who identifies as a lesbian and therefore it's hate speech.
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And therefore you're going to the cooler for standing up for your international governing
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I remember Billie Jean King in the early seventies.
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She fought tirelessly to get prize money for female professional tennis players.
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Well, not to the equivalent of men, but at least into the ballpark.
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And where are those feminists today that are advocating for women's sports?
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Or is the, I don't know, are we under the third or the fourth wave of feminism?
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And this is what I fear, that they too subscribe to trans women are real women.
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So we'll stand up for a rounding error of individuals on the planet versus, oh, I don't know, about
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They'll stand up for them and throw the biological females who they are ostensibly supposed to
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I don't know how society has ended up where social conservatives like me have more in
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For example, Martina Navratilova, she's in big trouble right now.
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Excuse me, there's a fly in my studio that I wasn't able to kill.
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And she is in big, big trouble right now from the likes of that horrible little soccer goblin,
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Megan Rapinoe, for saying that women's sports, especially women's tennis, is not for failed
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We see exactly this when you look at Leah Thomas, liar Thomas, as I call him.
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Failed male athlete, puts on a one piece instead of a speedo, and all of a sudden he's cleaning
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the clocks of women who've worked their entire lives to be at the top of their sport.
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And on the flip side, that little Megan Rapinoe, or whatever her name is, the one who makes
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women's soccer almost unwatchable because of the wokeness, plays for USA Soccer, complains
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that nobody watches it and then turns away half the viewers because of her politics.
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She has said, she's an advocate, to her credit though, an advocate for women's sport.
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Except for the fact that she says, well, we shouldn't be excluding trans athletes from women's
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Okay, so you're pushing for the demise of women's sport?
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Like, it's fascinating to see the feminists of today not realizing that they are overseeing
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I mean, if that's her position, and by the way, I have never in my life seen our American
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cousin south of the border cheer on the early exit of a U.S. national team in any sport than
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what happened to the women's soccer team thanks to that cancerous element in it.
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But getting back to the trans issue, we have to ask ourselves, then why bother segregating
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Twas ever thus, Sheila, with the exception of sport shooting, equestrian, and auto racing,
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the gun, the horse, and the automobile being the differentiating factor that makes everyone
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And I can foresee in our lifetime, if we don't nip this nonsense in the bud, if good men and
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good women don't come forward and put their foot down and at least enforce the rules of
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Well, what's going to happen, Sheila, in the decade to come, there'll be the male rugby team
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will get its roster, and then there'll be the female rugby team.
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But with one exception, all the females on the female rugby team are actually biological
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males, i.e. the losers that couldn't make the male biological rugby team.
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So basically, what you're going to have is rugby team, male team one, and team 1A, which
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And we can end this with a logical solution, because if anyone's saying, oh, you just don't
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want trans and non-binary people to have fun on the field.
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No, we advocate what Linda Blade, the Canadian sports coach, has long been advocating, Sheila,
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have an other or open division, whatever you want to call it.
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I really would, Sheila, because that's the way we're going.
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You know, I like to joke that cycling is my primary form of exercise.
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Uh, the reason, uh, I'm not, uh, you know, right now I'm merely fat as opposed to circus
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And I would love, I would dearly love, Sheila, to compete in the Tour de France, but I'm nowhere
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I'm going to write to the Tour de France committee and I'm going to say, you know what?
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I have a motorcycle that identifies as a bicycle and I want to compete in the Tour de France
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And not only should I be welcomed, well, you know what?
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It's good news for you guys too, because I'm going to set world records.
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Like I think about Lance Armstrong, if he had just called himself Linda, he could have
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explained away all the testosterone that he was juicing himself with and he would have
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But, you know, I'm old enough to remember when testosterone was a performance enhancing
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substance, but these days it's, we're just supposed to pretend that it doesn't have a
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And also, one of the things that I really find disgusting is the treatment of the women
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who speak out against this, they are accused of being prudes.
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I don't know if you saw this from last week, because you were on assignment most of last
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Riley Gaines, the female swimmer who was forced to compete against Leah Thomas, basically the
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criticism against her after she said, like, we were forced to change with him.
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He's, he's naked in the change room, just swinging around like a helicopter in the change
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And she's like, we don't, it was very uncomfortable and we felt unsafe to see it.
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And the criticism directed at her was that, oh, maybe Riley Gaines hasn't seen enough male
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Like, as though that's Riley Gaines's problem with being forced to change with the man identifying
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And, you know, Sheila, a couple of things about that.
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First of all, when it comes to, you mentioned two other sports, swimming and tennis, at least
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And that's what makes the rugby thing all the worse is that this is not some dude staying
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This is not some guy staying on his side of the court.
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There is full body contact and no protective equipment.
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Uh, I, I can't think of a more, um, deplorable situation for a female athlete to be in other
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If you're competing against men and to show you how society, um, at least those social engineers
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that are making the rules, uh, for us, Sheila are, um, so in with the woke social engineering.
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I always had this dream when it came to Liar Thomas that could you imagine all 10 swimmers
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line up, the starter's gun goes, he jumps into the pool and all nine biological women
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It would be so fun because of course, as, uh, Thomas is swimming, he has no idea.
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Meanwhile, the only guy in the pool and you last summer, I had the pleasure of meeting
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the mother of one of the Penn state female swimmers.
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And I relayed my, my dream to her and she told me, here's why that can't happen.
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She says, you know, it's, it's a wonderful idea, but here's why it can't happen.
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Uh, her daughter, as well as the other female swimmers, they're there on a swimming scholarship.
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And by the way, because of the wokesters on campus, what do you want to bet, Sheila, that
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those biological women are going to be condemned as the haters, right?
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We are in a really dark place right now when it comes to what I call trans sanity, Sheila.
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And it's hard to believe that people of yester decade, I call that, you know, these people
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that say they're trans or non-binary, et cetera.
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I think most of them are mentally ill, quite frankly, Sheila, you can lock me up if you
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But once upon a time, we locked them up for their good and ours.
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Uh, somebody says, I identify as, oh, I don't know, a, uh, black rhino or a hippopotamus or
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And in the meantime, in the name of progressiveness, we are canceling women's sports.
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And we are seeing female casualties on the field, thanks to this nonsense.
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You know, David, from your lips to God's ears, I don't know what will make a change unless
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a female athlete, as you said, is severely hurt or killed participating in a contact sport
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We've seen it happen at least thrice with Ash Davis.
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And then we've seen it happen, um, women who have been forced to fight against Fallon
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Fallon Fox is an MMA fighter who has undergone testosterone puberty and likes to fight women,
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And a few women have been severely injured, um, fighting against Fallon Fox.
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And so, unfortunately, I think you might be right.
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I think we're beyond the point of, if a woman gets severely hurt, will this change?
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I think this won't change until one of us is killed.
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And Sheila, in the meantime, how about doing this?
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That bully, censorious thug, Josh Windsor, the president of the Windsor County, uh, or sorry,
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This is against the law to say anything nasty to Ash Davis.
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Do you mean the law law or do you mean human rights edicts?
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Do you mean human rights tribunals that say this is the way it should be?
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So, I say, uh, any organization that wants to take a righteous stance says, well, we're
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following the guidelines of our international governing body, world rugby.
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And if that player is so upset, let them go to the police.
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Let them go to an Ontario human rights tribunal.
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And really, once that is argued in front of an Ontario human rights tribunal, as woke and
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If you bring up the prime directive of society, Sheila, which is this safety first, right?
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If you make that argument, we don't want biological females to get their legs broken, their ribs
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Um, we have to have that guy go back to the guys team.
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And by the way, we should point out, he was voted the hardest hitter on the men's Fergus
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rugby team just last year, showed up to the awards banquet wearing a blue dress and brandishing
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Uh, yeah, I know what you're saying, Sheila, the Buffalo Bill character from Silence of the
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He needs to be treated, um, by a psychiatrist as opposed to acquiesced by a rugby league.
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Um, David, what are you doing next on this file?
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Because you've really covered it sort of from the moment that it came into the rebel universe.
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Well, funny you should ask, our beloved colleague, Alexa Lavaugh, will be, uh, making a journey
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to the honeymoon capital of, uh, the world, Niagara Falls, where the Waterloo, where it's
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rather the, uh, Fergus woman with their bio weapon, Ash Davis, will be playing some kind
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of consolation game against, I think they're called the Niagara Wasps.
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And, um, truth be told, it's because I'm committed to the journalism conference coming up this
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Otherwise I'd be there, uh, for a third attempt, but it's a happy accident, Sheila, because
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And I wonder if she will be treated differently.
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I don't suspect so because we see behind the scenes that the people running these clubs in
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the league and, uh, rugby Ontario and rugby Canada, um, are threatening biological woman
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to shut the hell up or else you're off the squad or maybe in a jail cell.
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So I can hardly wait to see, uh, Alexa bring her brand of journalism to Niagara Falls.
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And, um, we'll see if they, uh, treat a, uh, biological female.
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Well, I'm pretty darn sure Alexa Lavaugh is a biological female.
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We'll see if the biological female players treat Alexa any differently.
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And I think there's another follow-up you of all people, Sheila Gunn-Reed tipped me off
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that there was some nonsense going on in Alberta regarding a boy identifying as a girl.
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And somehow, some way, the Alberta rugby people, uh, nipped that in the bud.
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If Alberta can do it, why can't Ontario, right?
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We're under the same laws and rules and regulations and everything else.
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We are following the international governing body of rugby, world rugby, and you go and
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play with the boys, um, then surely Ontario can do it.
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And one last thing, speaking as a male, speaking as someone who considers himself to be a gentleman
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and who believes in chivalry, I can't get into the head of any man that would dare game
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the system this way, especially when it comes to a contact sport like rugby, Sheila.
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Like one of the questions I had for Ash Davis was, how could you, how could you do this?
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I mean, the very idea to be, uh, at the least groping biological females in those scrums and
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at the worst injuring players, you mentioned three times, that was just three times in one
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That was in June, Sheila, against the Stony Creek Camels team.
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Um, how could you, as a man who should be a gentleman, who should be practicing, you know,
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the edicts of chivalry, how could you do this to biological female that through no, me, females
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that through no fault of their own, uh, Sheila are at an inherent disadvantage.
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Married to the same lady, still playing rugby, doesn't look any different.
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He just changed his pronouns and we're all supposed to be like, Oh, magic.
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But with the pronouns are the magic wand that changes them into a woman.
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All of a sudden, David, uh, I'm so proud of the work that you're doing on this file.
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Um, I'm, I'm so proud of your advocacy for women, um, and girls like my daughter who play
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And, um, again, I remain surprised that you are the strong, one of the strongest advocates
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for female sport in this country outside of a handful.
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Um, you know, there's a power lifter and coach Linda, um, and Barbara Kay, and then I guess
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You know what, Sheila, you're a hundred percent.
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Doesn't that speak volumes that of, of how far planet earth has transitioned into clown world
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that somebody like me is considered to be a feminist fighting for the rights of a female
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And I think, uh, modern feminism is probably the murderer.
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I think, uh, David, thanks so much for coming on the show.
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I get lots of emails saying like, Oh, that's so fun.
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When David's on the show, you got to have him on more, but, um, I'm so happy for you,
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Well, friends, we've come to the portion of the show wherein we invite your viewer feedback.
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Unlike the mainstream media, we actually care about what you think about the work that we
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It's the reason we leave our comment section open.
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And it's the reason I give out my email address right now.
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Put gun show letters in the subject line so that I know that the letter you're sending me is about a show
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that I've done as opposed to one of the daily stories or the live stream work that I've done.
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So helps me identify the letter that is for this right now.
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But also don't hesitate to leave a comment on any of the platforms where you might be watching us.
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So if you're watching the free show on Rumble, uh, leave a comment there, maybe on YouTube.
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Also, if you're sitting through a couple ads while the ads are going so that you can watch the free
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show, just leave me a little comment and I'll wander over there and I'll take a look and
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who knows, you might just end up being featured on the show.
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Now today's letter comes to me from Carol and Carol writes me about last week's show with
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my friend and colleague, Kian Simone, my filmmaking partner on the, I'm just going to say it,
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hit documentary, Church Under Fire, Canada's War on Christianity.
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And our documentary details, uh, a few, most of the congregations that stood up to the government
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lockdowns when the COVID lockdowns came to the churches and, uh, the trials that their
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congregations went through and the troubles that the men faced all in the name of religious
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freedom and truly for standing up for all of our rights.
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So Kian and I were talking about how we are launching another tour of the documentary.
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We went, we went like across the country multiple times over the course of, well, I think it was
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11 days all in nine on flights and then two back-to-back showings in Calgary, which involved
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And we came home to popular demand, people who had seen it, told their friends and their
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friends said, oh, you got to bring it to my town.
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And so we have a screening in BC coming up with actually a couple of screenings in BC.
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And then, um, we have more screenings in Alberta.
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We're doing a tour from the bottom of the province all the way to almost the top.
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So Lethbridge to Grand Prairie, uh, towards the end of the month, if you want to see details,
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And please, if you are thinking about buying tickets, I say this all the time, but I am,
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If you're thinking about buying tickets, buy the tickets.
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They're not that expensive, um, because these shows always, always sell out.
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And then I get people emailing me the day of saying, Sheila, can you get me into the
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Well, we put as many people in there as we possibly can.
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We want as many eyeballs on this work as possible, but I cannot change, you know, the municipal
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So, uh, uh, if you are thinking about getting a ticket, pick one up, just pick one up.
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But, uh, don't, uh, miss out is what I'm saying, because if you are thinking about it and you
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definitely will want to watch it, um, it will be too late by the time you figure out that
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So anyway, today's letter comes to me from Carol who watched last week's show.
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And she said, I listened to your show today with Kian regarding the documentary Church
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I was excited to hear that you guys are touring BC.
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What are the possibilities of coming to the interior and more specifically Prince George?
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It's like very, very, very Albertan, very Bible belty.
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Um, I love Merit, uh, the Country Music Hall of Fame is there.
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Um, and, uh, like, it's, it's like rodeo country, ranch country.
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Anyway, there's a large group of freedom-minded people here.
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I'm sure that Fort St. John would do well also.
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Yeah, Fort St. John is a very conservative place.
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Um, also they're only two hours-ish away from Grand Prairie.
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And if you go through Hudson Hope, it's a little more scenic than going through Dawson Creek.
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Uh, thank you for your dedication, hard work, and no BS view on life.
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Well, Carol, if you have ideas about a venue, uh, a date, there is a contact link on churchunderfiremovie.com.
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Um, and Kian and I are doing our best to bring the documentary to as many places as possible.
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And while we could probably sell a DVD to a bunch of people, I, I really appreciate the
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in-person experience and being there so that people can ask Kian and me questions about,
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you know, why we made the documentary, what was the documentary, um, experience like,
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or why certain things are not in the documentary.
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Also, if, if you're not Carol, I'm speaking directly to Carol, but if you're not Carol and
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you are, um, a church group or an organization or a freedom group, or maybe you're just, uh,
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somebody who owns a venue who says, I would love to host a whole, a sold out show of this
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really cool documentary that tells the other side of this story.
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There's a fly in here that is just driving me crazy.
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I'll see everybody back in the same time, in the same place next week.
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And as always, remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.
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I'll see everybody back in the same place next week.