What's next for Canadian Firearms Owners in 2024? We asked that question today on The Gunn Show with Rick Igersich of Canada's National Firearms Association (CNFAA) and asked Sheila Gunn-Reed to answer it.
00:05:52.500You know, it's the thing is, too, you know, when we were at the Senate and senators were saying that 68 percent of Canadian firearms owners are in favor of this bill,
00:06:02.980which is the biggest piece of misinformation I've ever heard.
00:08:52.720All you can do is fight and fight and fight and fight until—and never give up until government is changed.
00:09:01.760And I think that's what you guys have done.
00:09:04.260Now, I wanted to touch on this last-minute change to C-21, which has really been the legislation of last-minute shoehorned changes, hasn't it?
00:09:14.220But they've decided that the best way to keep Canadians safe is to make something double illegal.
00:09:23.260Well, there's a lot of double illegal stuff in C-21.
00:09:27.580Everybody knows that C-21 is a freezing movement of handguns and stuff.
00:09:31.860And, you know, just before I get into it too deep, they said that they're going to make some adjustments and compromise for Olympic shooters and whatnot.
00:09:41.720But that didn't happen, and that's not going to happen.
00:09:44.020But there was a lot of amendments added to C-21.
00:09:48.300And the biggest one is the magazine capacity.
00:09:52.020What they're saying is that any firearm—and this is that, you know, this is that same old thing, you know, we'll make stuff up after the bill is passed.
00:10:07.080You know, this Firearms Advisory Committee, which, in my opinion, is just a waste of money and time.
00:10:11.060But anyway, they basically—it's open-ended to—they can make any change to the bill they want after the fact, which is absolutely ridiculous.
00:10:21.860But at the end of the day, you know, there's a bunch of things.
00:10:24.380There's a bunch of amendments on C-21.
00:10:25.920And the one that kind of is sitting to the forefront is this magazine capacity thing.
00:10:31.580Now, there is probably—nobody has any idea how many magazines are out there that are legal, five-shot magazines that have been blocked from the factory.
00:10:44.800And the way they're talking—and you know what?
00:10:49.500They don't even know where they're going with this amendment.
00:10:52.280They don't even know what direction they're going in.
00:10:53.700But the way they're talking is any magazine that's readily convertible back to its original capacity is going to be deemed prohibited.
00:11:02.020Now, we get into the little bit of a—
00:11:04.500But it's already—it's already illegal to alter them.
00:11:11.520But, you know, where this gets a little iffy is they want to get rid of these things because now they're saying—they basically changed the law and saying they're illegal because they can be changed back.
00:11:24.200But then we get into, you know, and this is—you're in my pet peeve is the SKSs.
00:11:29.980You know, the SKSs is a 10-shot capacity firearm that has an actual pin welded in the bottom of the attached box magazine that prevents it from holding more than five rounds.
00:11:43.640Now, is that a readily convertible back to original capacity magazine?
00:11:48.520You know, that's the million-dollar question.
00:11:52.000And, you know, but then again, you made a very valid point there, Sheila, that it's already against the law to alter magazines.
00:11:59.760So, why would you make something illegal that has already been changed and made legal?
00:12:06.880But then again, we look back to the Ruger 10-22, the 25-round magazines, which there was thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of them in Canada.
00:12:15.820And they made them illegal overnight because they would fit into some Ruger Challenger pistol, which there's probably maybe, I don't know, a few dozen in Canada.
00:12:25.100But they made that magazine illegal because they considered a high-capacity magazine because it'll work in a pistol.
00:12:33.140So, you know, the laws don't make any sense.
00:12:41.920And the reason it was rushed because the Liberals wanted to get it through before the end of the year.
00:12:47.100And, you know, I'm going back on this and I'm repeating myself, but they're going to use it as an election issue, just like they used firearms in the last election.
00:12:55.440You know, and unfortunately, Aaron O'Toole did a 180 on us and, you know, kind of leaned in their direction, which didn't help anybody at the end of the day.
00:13:06.520But, you know, we're looking at the same thing happening again.
00:13:09.300And I just hope that, I just hope that Paulyev sticks to his guns and keeps going in the direction he's going.
00:13:15.520And it's such a winning issue for conservatives.
00:13:19.460I think it's one of their single largest fundraising issues for the party.
00:13:24.940And look how popular Stephen Harper was for no other reason than euthanizing the gun registry.
00:13:52.880That shows you how radical the Liberals are on this, that you can't even do a little finger gun celebration when voting on an issue of gun rights.
00:14:00.380But Stephen Harper was popular with a whole segment of the Canadian population for no other reason than just getting rid of that.
00:14:08.040And even if you don't care about guns, even if you don't care about property rights, are you tired of the government wasting your money on the wrong thing?
00:14:17.720There are a whole host of other things that they could do to deal with rising crime in Canada's progressive cities that have nothing to do with hassling law-abiding gun owners.
00:14:26.960Yeah, you know, and, you know, it just, it's guns, it's personal property, it's freedom.
00:14:35.100But, you know, at the end of the day, if you get a bunch of people to put the, if you get, put a group of people together to do a peaceful protest, are they going to seize your bank accounts?
00:14:44.740Are they going to, are they going to, you know, put the, put the, I call it the War Measures Act because I believe it still is, is it, yeah, back into place?
00:14:53.320You know, it just, it's, it's, it's, they're, they've got an agenda and part of their agenda is to scare Canadians and they did a really good job at it in Ottawa, you know, with, with the truckers convoy and stuff.
00:15:05.040And, you know, they, they went way, way beyond their powers.
00:15:09.160But, you know, of course, when, when, when you're, when you're governing yourself or, you know, investigating yourself, of course, you're going to come out on top every time.
00:15:18.640So nothing became of that, but, you know, that's, that, that's where we're at right now with guns.
00:16:17.980I'm going to give it to somebody who does.
00:16:19.940And it is a form of self-censorship when you have so frightened people by what this tyrannical government can do to you for disagreeing with them, that they just want to remain anonymous.
00:16:46.940You know, don't let the, don't let the media, don't let the, don't let the free and, and good media out.
00:16:51.900And, you know, they have their, of course they have their government controlled mainstream media, which, you know, looks like it's not doing too well in the last few days.
00:16:59.080But anyway, just, you know, why not censor, you know, that, that's their idea.
00:17:05.740If, if there's, if, if there's true information coming out there, let's censor it.
00:17:09.820You know, let's, let's, let's put a couple of bills in place to censor information.
00:17:14.600I know even on our, we've been seeing it on our social media platforms.
00:17:18.140We've been getting shadow banned like crazy.
00:17:20.140Uh, we work, we work with rebel, we work with rebel on, in other aspects besides your show, you know, we do a lot of, we do a lot of stuff on the other end of rebel and, uh, it's being, it's being shadow banned.
00:17:30.380It's being censored, you know, before, uh, before, uh, uh, 11, 18, you know, we get, you know, thousands, you know, thousands and thousands of views and stuff.
00:17:39.080And all of a sudden, when those bills came into place, uh, all of a sudden they dropped down to a few hundred, you know, censorship along with everything else, you know, and I'm, I'm going a little bit.
00:17:50.020Out of my alley here, but man, it just, because it, because it's affecting us, it's affecting us directly.
00:17:55.780This, this censorship stuff has got to stop.
00:18:05.520I mean, and that's the thing you exist in a world where you need to be able to speak truth to, to power, uh, in the same way that I do.
00:18:14.920That's part of your job is holding powerful people to account.
00:18:18.340And you can't do that if the very powerful people you're trying to hold to account are the ones that can silence you, that can make sure that nobody ever hears what you have to say.
00:18:46.820Uh, the way it's looking, I'm hoping, uh, I'm hoping, uh, uh, there's going to be an election soon.
00:18:54.860If, uh, if that happens, uh, it's going to put, uh, it's going to put a lot of stuff into play, especially for us.
00:19:00.840Uh, we're going to get the word out there for about every politician.
00:19:04.520I don't care what color they're, they, uh, they wear.
00:19:07.500We'll put, we'll put their platforms out there and, uh, let them, let the people know, uh, what they're about.
00:19:13.100Uh, the NFA doesn't endorse candidates.
00:19:15.820Uh, uh, we're going to, we're going to let people make up their own minds and we'll, we'll go from there.
00:19:20.360But we'll definitely, uh, we'll speak to anybody that wants to speak to us.
00:19:23.960If, uh, if Justin Trudeau wants to come on NFA talk, I'll be more than happy to have them.
00:19:28.680And I would, I would actually love that.
00:19:30.120Uh, but, uh, uh, you know, uh, if anybody wants to come out, if Judd Mead Singh wants to come out and, uh, you know, speak to us and, uh, give us his position on firearms.
00:19:40.020And, uh, of course they won't because their, their, their position isn't friendly to any of our people, but, uh, you know, and, and as far as the CPC, uh, or anybody else, you know, we'll, we're definitely going to put their positions out, uh, during the election.
00:19:53.640We're not going to, we're going to run behind the scenes.
00:19:55.960We're not going to put, we're not going to, we're going to, not going to try to put firearms to the forefront of an election.
00:20:00.980Uh, that's what the, we're not going to give the liberals, uh, you know, ammunition for their cause basically, but, uh, we're going to run behind the scenes.
00:20:08.820And, uh, like I say, we'll get the information out.
00:20:10.920Just, uh, any politician that, you know, wants to get his word out, uh, get ahold of our, uh, get ahold of our, uh, social media guys.
00:20:18.200And, uh, we'll definitely get their word out across our social media.
00:20:21.060We have a pretty extensive reach now and, uh, we'll get the word out.
00:20:24.120We're going to be working hard, uh, as far as the NFA, we're still going to be out there.
00:20:29.380We're going to be out there doing events across Canada.
00:20:31.440Again, we're going to be meeting people from coast to coast.
00:20:34.440Uh, we, uh, we'll be attending other events too.
00:20:37.100A couple of our people attended your event that you had there a few weeks ago.
00:20:41.400And, uh, you know, we, uh, we, we sure we, we love going to those events because, you know, we get to, we get to meet like-minded people.
00:20:47.660And, uh, that's another thing I wanted to say too.
00:20:52.320We have a lot of members that, that don't own firearms, but they're, you know, freedom loving Canadians that, that want to join a group to protect their rights and their freedoms.
00:21:00.660And that's why they join, you know, and when we attend, uh, when we attend rebel news events and stuff, we meet a lot of people that we don't normally meet.
00:22:13.880Um, and a lot, I, I hear every time that you're on the show, Rick, I hear from regular viewers of the show who say, I just joined the NFA.
00:22:24.040I'm not a firearms owner, but I care about freedom.
00:22:26.980And I also care about my fellow Canadians not being scapegoated for the crimes of others.
00:22:31.800There are a lot of people who care about that, that, that we're focusing on the wrong people.
00:22:37.160We need to be worried about the bad guys, not the good guys in our neighborhood.
00:22:40.600And I hear from a ton of regular viewers of the show who are members of the NFA simply because they care about freedom.
00:22:49.280And that for sure, for sure was my experience at Rebel Life, watching the long lineup of people talking to, uh, the folks that you had there.
00:22:59.200I hope you guys continue, I hope you guys continue those events because I know I did, I did the one, uh, uh, uh, the other side of Toronto there, uh, last year, a couple of years ago.
00:23:07.320And it was a great, it was, it was a full house.
00:23:47.040It's a little different, but it must be a wonderful experience to people in places like Toronto and, and,
00:23:57.780in Vancouver, to find people who think like you, when you're in this progressive hotbed of, um, of your politicians and unions and wild eyed school board, uh, school board educators.
00:24:13.360Yeah, but you know what, you know what's really funny though?
00:24:29.420And, and, uh, I think that's, uh, the liberals are hoping that, uh, people forget what happened in Ottawa, what happened with the firearms, what happened in general with everything, with everything they're all about.
00:24:46.580I think, um, I think there were things that people could let slide because Justin Trudeau was, he had nice socks and a fancy face and people liked him.
00:24:56.500So they could, you know, you can get a lot away with a lot of tyranny when, I don't know, some bizarre subset of, uh, middle-aged housewives think that you're attractive.
00:25:05.760But now I, I think when you're, when those same middle-aged housewives are having problems buying groceries because of Justin Trudeau's economic policies, the tides will turn on you pretty quick.
00:25:17.360Uh, Rick, uh, I want to thank, we're recording this on Tuesday right after, um, New Year's Eve.
00:25:24.320So I realized that this is a day off for a lot of people and I don't want to take up too much of, uh, what may or may not be a day off for you, Rick.
00:25:30.440But I want to, uh, invite you to let people know how they can get involved in Canada's National Firearms Association.
00:25:37.720Uh, we're, uh, there's a lot of ways to get involved.
00:25:41.380Uh, the best way is, uh, go to nfa.ca and, uh, you know, have a look at our website and, uh, and become a member.
00:25:48.020Uh, you know, you can follow us on, um, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube.
00:25:52.840Uh, we're out on all the social media platforms, uh, join, become a member.
00:25:58.020Uh, the, uh, the money goes towards the good fight in Ottawa.
00:26:00.840You know, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's a, it's a fight for our rights and freedoms and that, and that, and that's what we do.
00:26:05.660Uh, like I say, uh, you know, follow us.
00:26:08.360And also, you know, uh, like I say, we, we, we work on the other end of Rebel News.
00:26:11.840Follow us on the other end of Rebel News too.
00:26:14.040Reach out, you know, have a look at some of our stuff on there.
00:26:16.500And, uh, and, uh, I hope, I hope, uh, you know, as many Canadians, uh, get into the fight as we, you know, as we can pick up.
00:26:24.440Because there's, there's definitely a big fight out there that everybody needs to join.
00:26:27.940It's getting, uh, you know, I, I don't want to use the word, but I'm going to, I'm going to say the resistance is getting stronger every day.
00:26:33.860And, uh, we're going to, we're going to keep, uh, we're going to keep moving in that direction.
00:26:37.440And like I said, 2024 is going to be a banner year for us, I predict.
00:26:41.900And, uh, we've got a lot of stuff coming.