Justin Trudeau's new internet censorship law, Bill C-10, is being rushed through Parliament at breakneck speed in order to silence critics of his climate change policies. Michelle Sterling of Friends of Science joins me to talk about the dangers of the bill, and why she thinks it's a bad idea.
00:30:32.200So, you know, you have to read our report and see what this qualitative analysis does.
00:30:36.440It shows that Pembina Institute is misleading the policymakers and the public in every way on wind and solar,
00:30:44.060and they're taking lots of money from the government.
00:30:47.720So if you're going to get taxpayer money and make policy recommendations,
00:30:52.860should you not be required to be accurate?
00:30:55.800And I did a live stream on that, and I show that they're also getting money from foreign sources.
00:31:00.940In 2018, they got, I think it was about half a million dollars from the Energy Foundation in the U.S. to push clean energy.
00:31:10.740Well, you know, does that organization or parties associated with it have vested interests in the renewables that will be installed in Alberta?
00:31:19.660So, you know, there's lots of very big questions about what these guys are up to.
00:31:24.280And I think our qualitative analysis shows that they are completely wrong.
00:31:30.120Now, that said, we'd be quite happy to engage in any open dialogue.
00:31:35.960We can present all of the modeling that we used, all of the sources that we used, all the data sources.
00:31:54.080Good luck to you to get those people to the table.
00:31:56.360You know, and it's strange to hear that these advocates, again, for social justice, advocating for energy policy that would basically take up vast tracts of arable land, because that's what it would require.
00:32:14.200Sure, we've got lots of sunlight here in Alberta.
00:32:16.600We use it to grow food, to feed the world, you know, or, you know, we have these enormous tracts of boreal forests, which the environmentalists tell me they love.
00:32:27.880But we would have to mow down huge swaths of it to put up toxic solar farms.
00:32:33.300And that's the way of the future, I guess, for them.
00:32:42.660Yeah, well, and the other thing that people don't realize, you know, people who hate pipelines should realize if they are pushing electrification and wind and solar, what's going to have to be built, oh, and EVs as well, is huge, massive transmission lines everywhere you look.
00:33:00.720And in fact, in Matthew Embry's film, Global Warning, which, by the way, has just won a Remy Award at the Houston Film Festival, and also just got selected for the Miami Film Festival.
00:33:14.560And this is one of the Canadian content films that, without Bill C-10, no media covers.
00:33:20.200Anyway, in his film, Catherine Abreu of Canrac is traveling around in Germany, and you see all these wind farms everywhere and transmission lines everywhere, and she's saying, yeah, you know, I hope Canada looks like this.
00:33:34.680This is my vision of Canada, and, you know, people who work on pipelines, they can just switch over and build these things instead.
00:33:40.520Like, you know, there are two different kinds of jobs, and really, would you rather have a pipeline under the ground, where for 50 years you don't even know it's there until some environmental group starts the Tar Sands campaign, or to have massive high-voltage power lines running everywhere, buzzing, and you won't have a say in it, because Bill C-10 and Bill C-12, you'll just have to shut up and grin and bear it.
00:34:09.100Yeah, and, you know, that reminds me of our mutual friend, Morine Poole's documentary, in which he showed how the pursuit of green energy, and in much of his movie, he points out that it's biofuels, as opposed to, you know, just natural gas, fossil fuels.
00:34:29.240It took up so much arable land, farmers quit growing food, because they were living off the subsidies to grow biofuels.
00:34:40.660Yes, and it destroys the land, because it's a monocrop, and, you know, it, as you say, it destroys local agriculture.
00:34:50.600In his film, it's memorable, because he jumps on a tractor and starts driving around the region trying to find a potato farmer, and can't find one.
00:34:58.460And then, he talks with someone who tells him, you know, after the war, a woman came to the rural area looking for potatoes, and had a bag full of very expensive jewelry, and just wanted to trade that for potatoes.
00:35:15.460And, you know, that's, I think I've mentioned this on your show before, but Amartya Sen, who's a Nobel Prize winning economist, did a study, and they found that in countries where there was no censorship of the press, even in difficult times, people survived.
00:35:33.800But in countries where there was censorship of the press, famine was rampant in the land, and the greatest famines throughout history happened in countries where the press was censored.
00:35:47.080On that dark note, let's move on to the IPCC.
00:35:52.400They've leaked a report to the friendly media, and you and I were talking off air.
00:35:57.320I think they leaked it to friendly media so that the media downstream from there know exactly the expected narrative for them to craft when they report on the information inside this leaked report that isn't due out for another year.
00:36:11.940But it's interesting how these things go to journalists all the time and not to other scientists.
00:36:17.960It was actually the French Association des Climatorealistes who first issued a press statement, you know, very upset that this report had been leaked to the press and not provided so that others could see it.
00:36:34.860And people might be wondering, well, what does it matter if it's going to come out in a year?
00:36:41.660The principal reason is that in the fall of this year, in November, there will be a COP26, Conference of the Parties.
00:36:50.440So this is all the people who signed up to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change back in the 1990s.
00:36:58.300This is the 26th time that they've met.
00:37:01.800Emissions have been going up every year ever since, even though every year they promise they're going to cut them by a dramatic amount.
00:37:08.580So this is like a run up to COP by claiming that the climate community is saying there's a catastrophe coming.
00:37:17.360So that will help the COP negotiators push their rule book into place.
00:37:23.220Now, up till now, the Paris Agreement that Catherine McKenna signed, and she didn't even know what a COP was at the time.
00:37:30.240The Paris Agreement has been voluntary.
00:37:35.940The only thing countries actually had to do was to report every five years on what they were up to, what their emissions were, what their plans were.
00:37:44.700They didn't actually have to do anything.
00:37:46.460So COP26, they're trying to force into place the Paris rule book and make it mandatory to cut emissions.
00:37:54.560And as Ben Stein pointed out on the show when I talked with him, he said, this is absurd.
00:38:00.920You know, this is giving China the lead in the world.
00:38:06.840This is taking away our ability to be independent, sovereign nations.
00:38:13.100And that's what they're going to try and do at COP26 in November.
00:38:17.440And that's why the leak of this report was so critical, because now the media, as you say, can, you know, hype the catastrophe scenario.
00:38:27.260But no other scientists can look at this report and say, well, actually, you know, they say that might happen on page 12.
00:38:35.080But on page 55, they say, based on 100 years of evidence, it won't happen.
00:38:40.720You know, so and so it's terrible that, you know, it wasn't why didn't they give it to a scientific body like the Association for the Advancement of Sciences in the States or to some science journal and have a number of other qualified experts review it and issue their commentaries as well.
00:39:04.120Why the media? The only thing the media know about climate change is that there are 400 of them are part of Covering Climate Now, which is a Columbia Journalism Review initiative that reaches 2 billion people.
00:39:19.980They publish everything in bright orange and they do nothing but hype climate catastrophe.
00:39:34.120You know, the tagline on my show, it's remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.
00:39:42.280Well, through Bill C-10, the government is literally putting the idea that maybe you might be getting just a little bit too much to think on the Internet into law.
00:39:53.900They're doing this to prevent you from being exposed to new and different ideas, unapproved ideas, I guess.
00:40:01.820Now, am I an oracle? Do I have a crystal ball or a crystal brain, as they say?
00:40:08.220Or do I just know that so often the people on the left, they really believe that they're right, but they don't know that they're right and they don't have the supporting facts.
00:40:18.880So that puts them in a position where they're unable to defend their bad ideas on the merits of the bad idea.
00:40:26.140And when you can't do that, the only thing left to do, to win an argument, is to forcibly shut the other side up.
00:40:34.540Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in.
00:40:38.180I'll see everybody back here at the same time.
00:40:42.340Who knows if it's the same place next week.
00:40:44.360But remember, Bill C-10 or not, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.