Justin Trudeau's latest piece of censorship legislation outlaws talking favorably about Alberta s oil and gas sector. Sheila Gunn-Reed talks with Robbie Picard of Oil & Gas World Magazine about the implications of Bill C-59.
00:00:00.000Justin Trudeau's latest piece of censorship legislation outlaws talking favorably about
00:00:21.040Alberta's oil and gas sector. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gun Show.
00:00:30.000You know, I really should say you're watching The Gun Show for now because Justin Trudeau might censor my show because a lot of the things I talk about on this show are the wonders of Canadian oil and gas, specifically Alberta's oil and gas.
00:00:56.960But, you know, we love our friends in Saskatchewan and in northern British Columbia.
00:01:01.240And I talk about how wonderful and convenient and life-saving fossil fuels are.
00:01:07.100And yet, Justin Trudeau's latest piece of censorship legislation you might not have heard about, Bill C-59,
00:01:13.720outlaws advocacy for Canada's oil and gas, making it false advertising under the Competition Act.
00:01:24.320And this is not the first time these people have used the Competition Act to shut up their critics.
00:01:30.760Some of you might remember when environmentalist radicals complained to the Competition Bureau about our friends at Friends of Science over a billboard they put up saying that it was false advertising.
00:01:45.360You know what the billboard said? The main driver of climate change might be that burning ball of gas in the sky we call the sun.
00:01:54.600The people on the other side said that's false advertising and dragged our friends at Friends of Science through the process of a complaint.
00:02:05.340Because, as you know, the process is the punishment.
00:02:08.240Now, in Alberta, our Premier, Daniel Smith, has threatened to invoke the Sovereignty Act to fight back against Justin Trudeau's limits on the things that we can say about Canada's oil and gas sector.
00:02:22.200For their part, the industry has somewhat capitulated to this.
00:02:28.040The Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers has scrubbed their internet presence and the Pathways Alliance has taken down their internet presence and put up something new.
00:02:39.480It's a statement saying there will be no more statements thanks to Justin Trudeau's Bill C-59.
00:02:44.680I want to read you an op-ed written by Rebecca Schultz, Alberta's Minister of Environment, about what Alberta plans to do about C-59 and why the Alberta government objects to it so much.
00:02:58.920In February, federal NDP Charlie Angus introduced a bill that threatened fines and jail time for Canada's oil and gas industry if they tried to defend their record on the environment.
00:03:10.380Canadians were immediately outraged and the bill was laughed away as just plain crazy.
00:03:14.340A few months later, through last-minute amendments to C-59, MP Charlie Angus has managed to sneak his bill in through the back door.
00:03:34.020Environmental activists will be able to bring claims against oil and gas companies under so-called anti-greenwashing provisions.
00:03:40.560Companies that wish to defend their environmental record will have to prove that their claims can be substantiated by an internationally recognized methodology.
00:03:49.780A vague and undefined phrase that creates needless uncertainty for businesses.
00:03:54.660Any company not willing to risk millions of dollars in fines and legal fees will be forced to stay silent.
00:03:59.320C-59 is currently in third reading in the House of Commons and may pass as early as this week.
00:04:15.180After that, it will head to the Liberal-dominated Senate, where it will be rubber-stabbed.
00:04:19.960C-59, put plain and simply, is an undemocratic gag order.
00:04:27.020Minister of Environment and Protected Areas, Rebecca Schultz.
00:04:30.800Now, because this bill was so hastily rushed through, a lot of industry advocates, like my friend Robbie Picard from Oil, Sand Strong, and Oil & Gas World magazine, are wondering what will happen to them if they say nice things about the Canadian oil and gas sector that has allowed so many families, including my own, to become members of the embattled middle class.
00:05:00.800Robbie tells me he's willing to go to jail, and he wants to tell that to you, too.
00:05:05.260So, joining me now is my friend Robbie Picard from Oil, Sand Strong, and Oil & Gas World magazine.
00:05:14.300My friend Robbie Picard from Oil, Sand Strong, and Oil & Gas World magazine.
00:05:20.820And we're discussing the implications of the Liberals' censorship bill, C-59, on activists just like him.
00:05:28.720Robbie, this is crazy, because when the first iteration of this censorship was proposed by NDP MP Charlie Angus, everybody said it was crazy, including some Liberals.
00:05:44.400But the Liberals took it, and then rolled it into an omnibus bill, stuck it under the Competition Act, and called it anti-greenwashing legislation.
00:05:59.360What does it mean for people like you?
00:06:00.980Because we've already seen what the industry is doing in response to this, turtling.
00:06:05.560What does it mean for somebody like you?
00:06:06.940Well, you know, it has definitely changed the game, because what it has done, and it has done very well, is it forced industry, all of a sudden, to just basically pull all of their data.
00:06:22.020And a lot of the activists use the data.
00:06:24.780For instance, you know, Canada only produces 1.5% of all global emissions.
00:06:32.400These are stats that we've used in making our argument for a very long time.
00:06:35.860But I find the other part that's more scary is if someone challenges you, even if it's a ludicrous claim, they're saying that you're making a claim.
00:06:44.000They've really dampened your freedom of speech to make your case for an argument.
00:06:49.020Like, I mean, I think electric cars are shit.
00:07:07.120But candidly, you know, it's also I'm very, I'll be honest, I'm very disappointed that everybody turtled and didn't put up any of a fight.
00:07:17.020So it's really weird, because it's just a handful of us that are going to stay the course and fight this.
00:07:21.840And I'm going to fight it with everything I have.
00:07:23.720But also, it goes to show you that Justin Trudeau's government is a dictator government.
00:07:31.700And Charlie Angus, who typically would have the zero say, in fact, he's had zero say throughout his whole political career, is in the position of government.
00:07:49.920And it's a it's an absolute attack on our freedom of speech.
00:07:54.820It's it's I'm shocked that this is happening in Canada right now.
00:07:58.080But also, I mean, shocked, but not so shocked that industry has decided to turtle because, you know, you cannot expect the people and the liberals to support you.
00:08:09.280And I think that this is why there's a lot of division within the sort of the pro oil group right now, because I think they were quite surprised that after all of their wonderful ads they placed and were really good in, you know, were really good people.
00:08:23.960The Trudeau government still screwed them and in fact, far worse than anything I've ever seen.
00:08:30.980I mean, you got to hand it to that narcissistic pretty boy, Justin Trudeau.
00:08:35.960I mean, he is definitely more crazy than his father.
00:08:38.740His father had the charter, which we all use.
00:08:41.740And you can you can make some good cases about that.
00:08:43.880Well, Trudeau Jr. is nothing but a narcissist and scary.
00:08:49.340And I'm so happy that I like I pray that he is going to get defeated brutally because it's a fundamental attack of my freedom of speech, your freedom of speech.
00:09:01.000And it shows that they'll do anything to hurt their opponent.
00:09:03.760And which which I find hilarious, because the Trans Mountain Pipeline was actually saving their asses a little bit right now because it's producing tax revenue, which they desperately need.
00:09:14.120And everything this country has is one way because of oil and gas.
00:09:18.080And instead of letting it flourish and working with them to make it better, they just punish them.
00:10:01.300And now, as you rightly point out, they can't they can't even talk about the advancements that they're making because now it's covered under this false advertising legislation.
00:10:12.680And what really astounds me is they can't talk about the tangible, measurable things that they're doing in the oil and gas sector to improve technology.
00:10:24.680But the other side of this can get away with saying such atrocious nonsense as though we have, what was it, 12 years to save the planet?
00:10:35.940They said that back in 2018 and then they revised it to seven or eight years.
00:12:05.640And some summers had rain and we had droughts.
00:12:08.520And other summers, like this is going to be one of the wettest years on record, which we were told that we were going to have forest fire, catastrophic forest fires all year.
00:13:33.700But I think it's time for us to like we don't want to be a bunch of frogs in boiling water that the government keeps screwing us and screwing us.
00:13:43.200And we're going to give up all of our rights like this is insane.
00:13:45.720This is an attack on freedom of speech.
00:13:47.400I'm sure if it was challenged, it would probably be proven wrong.
00:13:52.220But I mean, whether you like Justin Trudeau or hate Justin Trudeau, he's got to go.
00:13:57.420He is by far damaging our brand of our country.
00:14:00.820I mean, you tell me another prime minister who has had more.
00:14:05.500I've never seen a person claim to be a feminist who screwed over more women.
00:14:09.500I mean, look what he did to Joni Rabo.
00:14:22.480And we cannot underestimate him or his narcissism.
00:14:25.940This is this is our version of, you know, kind of like, you know, he's sort of like he's a dictator.
00:14:33.280He's a pretty dictator who wants to have absolute power and attacking our fundamental rights of freedom of speech, allowing Charlie Angus to do that.
00:16:05.700I mean, they shouldn't necessarily be in the advocacy field because, you know, engineers tend to not have that skill set of knowing how to talk to people.
00:16:11.980Hence, maybe why we're in some of this problem.
00:16:14.880But that being said, they're good people that are trying really hard to make the world a better place.
00:16:20.740And it's wrong what Trudeau just did to them.
00:16:23.240They've done far more, like this whole thing with carbon capture and all of this would provide millions and millions and millions of dollars in jobs.
00:16:30.940It helps Canada get the energy where it needs to be.
00:16:56.760And the fact that Stephen Gabal is in that position just blows my mind.
00:17:00.400It's just this wild disconnect that you can't even talk about the jobs that are being created, the Indigenous partnerships, the advancement in technology,
00:17:10.440the benefit to your life that fossil fuels bring you.
00:17:14.220You can't even really talk about now that actually plastics shouldn't be listed as a Schedule 1 toxin because they're not asbestos, lead, and mercury levels of toxic.
00:17:24.980I mean, it's just wild, while the Liberals simultaneously reap the benefits of the oil and gas sector, not just in their personal lives, but economically speaking, as you rightly point out about the Trans Mountain Pipeline.
00:17:36.900But if fossil fuels were so bad, why did they work so hard to get that pipeline built years late and over budget?
00:17:44.780Well, and that's where we're in a weird predicament.
00:18:31.140The fact that you can't get rid of them until their pensions are in because, you know, Jagmeet doesn't want to call an early election because he needs a pension.
00:18:39.140I mean, it's just I'm flabbergasted and tired, right?
00:18:45.940You know, it's been a long eight years with this guy.
00:18:49.760And I think that it's we're in a position now where hopefully, you know, there's some good news out of Toronto.
00:18:57.420You know, there was a by-election that went the conservative way.
00:19:01.840And, you know, and I went from being very nonpartisan, which, you know, I'll go back to.
00:19:05.980I mean, I'm going to give Nemchi a chance, right?
00:19:08.220I'm going to see if he goes in a positive direction towards the industry and promoting oil and gas.
00:19:30.900And pure poly is going to be the only thing that I think will save Canada from being completely destroyed into this country that doesn't have a national identity, that is so woke that we don't even know what we're being woked about.
00:19:43.340Do you know what, I'm just going to disagree with you for a second here.
00:19:47.920I think our national identity used to be freedom.
00:19:50.700Trudeau is doing his best to destroy it.
00:19:52.380Well, I think the only way to get that back where we feel like we have something to be proud of besides a hockey game is to have a leader that represents all of us, that doesn't diminish us and pick and choose and fights for all of our freedoms, even if we disagree.
00:20:08.560You know, like the convoy, like I spent a lot of time with Tamara for the first time when I was at the Rebel Live thing and I interviewed her and it's like, I'm not scared of her.
00:20:23.820You could make comments that she's different, but he devastated her life.
00:20:29.060You know, like regardless, you know, I'm sure she'll get pros and cons from the notoriety of the trucker convoy, but, you know, he devastated her.
00:20:39.340That's like, I mean, where's the restrain in leadership?
00:20:45.560Why didn't he meet with her and say like, look, let's try to find common ground.
00:20:49.180Now, that a true leader is someone that can literally sit down with their opponents and above all respect their, like respect their rights.
00:21:00.660Like he's just, he's just a bad leader and a bad person.
00:21:04.420So, yes, I mean, we haven't, we have an identity, but I don't think we have, we haven't had a leader at the helm for a long time that could speak to both.
00:21:14.120I think we have a leader who actively hates our identity, and I think that is very divisive and it puts Canada in conflict with its leadership constantly.
00:21:24.680The people of Canada and the leadership dislike each other.
00:21:29.200Like you could, I mean, we can go over the list, right?
00:21:34.180Love Canada, hated the West, gave the West the middle finger, but I don't believe Pierre Elliott Trudeau would screw with my right to speak.