SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Justin Trudeau's brother has ideas about how to avoid the tyranny imposed by the Liberals
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Kyle Kemper is the half-brother of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, and he wants to rethink the way Canadians are doing politics. He wants to unseat the existing power structures, and as an Albertan who is sick of Confederation, I'm all ears.
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Oh, hey, Rebels. It's me, Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're listening to a free audio-only recording
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of my weekly Wednesday night show, The Gunn Show. However, this is the internet, and the beauty of
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that is that you can listen or watch whenever is convenient for you. Now, tonight my guest
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is Kyle Kemper. Kyle is the half-brother of Justin Trudeau, and he's a little different
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than his brother. He's pretty freedom-oriented, freedom-minded, and he wants to rethink the way
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Canadians are doing politics, and he wants to undo the existing power structures, and
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as an Albertan who is pretty sick of Confederation, I'm all ears. Now, we're talking about a few
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On today's show, Kyle Kemper discusses his ideas for giving people back their power, for
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holding the government accountable, and for unshackling our finances from the big banks, which
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are easily controllable by the government. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching
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Do you know the name Kyle Kemper? I think you just might. You see, Kyle Kemper is Justin Trudeau's
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half-brother, but I do not think that should define who Kyle is or the ideas that he has.
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However, it is undeniably interesting that Kyle is so diametrically opposed to his brother
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on issues of free speech, direct democracy, and of course, monetary policy. I'm definitely
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not defined by my siblings. I don't think Kyle should be defined by his either. I don't
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think anybody should. Kyle was the executive director of the Blockchain Association of Canada,
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and at least it's my impression that he sees this moment in time with people rising up against
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government control with the truckers' convoy and with governments reacting in the most
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authoritarian of ways to that peaceful populist uprising as a perfect opportunity for a power
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grab, but away from the government, an opportunity to decentralize. And the way Kyle sees this
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happening is through something he describes as a decentralized autonomous organization, something
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that exists outside of government and financial institutions, which makes it insulated from
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cancel culture and government control. So Kyle joins me today from San Diego in an interview we recorded
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yesterday morning to explain his plan for a new way forward.
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Joining me now is Kyle Kemper from San Diego. Now, some of you may know Kyle as Justin Trudeau's
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half-brother, but that's not why I want to talk to Kyle. I want to talk to Kyle because he has
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written, I guess, a booklet about decentralized autonomous systems and direct democracy. And I think there
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has never been a more opportune time to talk about this, and I think society is open to decentralizing. And as an
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Albertan, this has been the drum I've been banging for a long time. The centralized Canadian government system has
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never been good for us out here in Alberta. And Kyle, I think you tell me you were sort of inspired by the convoy and the
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government's reaction to the convoy to sort of put your thoughts to paper.
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Absolutely. Thanks for having me on the show, Sheila. Yeah, I mean, the great Canadian freedom convoy, as I like to
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call it, was just such an unbelievable, inspiring showcase of love and unity and inclusion and self-expression
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mixed with this idea of civic engagement. People were participating because they really felt like,
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you know, they had to do something, they had to stand up. And, you know, it was entirely non-violent
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and so beautiful. And, you know, while the images from the conclusion of it, you know, will kind of last
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in everybody's memories, you know, the 17 days that took place in Ottawa of this kind of incredible
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experience, I think, is something that we can all, everyone can return as heroes from that,
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you know, and tell the tales of what actually happened there. Because, you know, your organization
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was one of the only ones to actually showcase what was happening as opposed to just these radical
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smears. But out of all of it, you know, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people through Ottawa
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over 17 days, and they couldn't even get an audience, like, you know, with, with, you know,
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policymakers, you had doctors, nurses, scientists, coming together, making the case saying, look,
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let's have an audience. And, you know, that type of energy, and like, it was not a fringe minority,
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it was people from all different backgrounds, and people coming out, like to support those who
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couldn't be there. And, you know, we've seen rallies all across the country, too. But no
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engagement. And, you know, we just saw Randy Hillier, like, you know, declare that he's not
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seeking re-election, and he's not. And he made a very clear statement that the political system is
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broken. Like, it has become a system where the parties vote for themselves. They vote for the parties,
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and they vote for the party interests. They do not represent the people. And we look at, and when we look
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at our kind of system of governance, this Westminster kind of British, you know, system, it was,
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it made sense when there was Canada as a super large nation, when, you know, we had people all
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over, and we didn't have telephones, or even electricity, and you needed people to come
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together to kind of represent their various regions. That makes sense. But, you know, the thing about
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centralized systems over time is they just become more secretive and corrupt. And I think
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we're at the pinnacle of that right now. And we are in the age of the internet and exponential
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technologies, and we have decentralized currencies and ledgers that present amazing opportunities for
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innovation. And yet, we're using this Westminster system of governance, which is like using Morse code
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in the time of the internet. It's broken. And so, you know, I posit that, you know, it's time for us to
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start looking at new models of doing things. And, you know, one of my favorite quotes from Buckminster
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Fuller, and it says, you can't fix the system by fighting it. To change something, build a new model
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that makes the existing system obsolete. So, I suggest that that is the point that we're at right now.
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And, you know, by the actions of Justin and his people and the party and the other parties working
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together towards, you know, staying in power and keeping their paychecks, because I don't think they
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want an election right now. They pushed us to innovate and create. And they're like, you know,
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they just keep pushing and they're relentless. It's like, it makes no sense. So, therefore, like,
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let's start looking. Let's criticize by creating. Let's start building.
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Now, I think the reason your thoughts really struck a chord with me is that I have been saying
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that the convoy itself is a reaction to the failure of the institutions around the people.
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During the pandemic, all those things that normally people look to to protect their civil liberties or
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to even make sense, they all completely failed. The Chamber of Commerce wasn't pro-business,
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it was pro-lockdown. The courts, they are not representing the people and they're not
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upholding civil liberties. They're not upholding the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which is the
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thing by which they govern all other things. Didn't happen. So, you look to the politicians,
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it didn't happen. They didn't represent their constituents. You look to the churches, well,
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the churches were closed because they fell in line with the government. So, the people around them
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saw the politicians failed, academia failed, the courts failed, the churches failed. Everything
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failed all along the way. But like good Canadians, they relied on themselves and their neighbors to
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have their voices heard. And I think that's why what you're saying now about, you know, building a new
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system or rethinking ways to do it. I think the convoy itself was probably the event horizon of all of that.
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Yeah. Again, it's like, people got pushed so hard. And like, you know, two years of isolation and
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fear-based propaganda, like, you know, aiming to control them while watching all of our fundamental
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liberties being stripped from us. I mean, those of us who are aware of it and that weren't just
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operating underneath the fear spell, you know, that was so significantly cast. And now we have a very
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divided society. And I know that as well, a bunch of people who are very kind of, you know, very
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critical and very awake, you know, they were, they were also living in a state of a little bit of fear
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regarding like, oh, it was like, are the things I'm saying, like going to come back and get me or
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like, you know, is someone going to knock on my door? It's like, and then they went to Ottawa and
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they're like, wow, like we are, there are so many people like, this is so beautiful. Like, this is the
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side of history that, you know, I'm, I'm proud to stand on because like, you need to stand in our
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truths right now. And, and like, and as very, very well put, all of our systems broke down,
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like the unions. I mean, come on, they represent the people, but they're representing literally
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their investors because they're all invested in like, you know, pharmaceuticals and, and,
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you know, this experimental magnetic goo. Now you, and again, what a great way to put it in,
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in your, uh, in your writing, you said that your brother played the villain in all of this. Um,
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you described the, um, the convoy as freezing man, as opposed to burning man, which I think was a great
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way to put it. Um, but, um, uh, tell me what you think about, um, you know, the actions of the
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government and invoking the emergencies act to deal with, as you say, this freedom festival, freezing
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man. Um, do you think that doing that so easily, uh, means that it will happen easily again, I guess,
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next time that there's an uprising of, of mortals?
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I think that there was their plan all along to enact that at some point, like they wanted to do
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that because they wanted to, to, you know, um, further merge the state with the financial
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institutions and give, you know, greater control or take greater control over free Canadians lives
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and bank accounts. Um, and like, you know, it was so peaceful and so wonderful that they literally
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like had to stage photos and like, just run on that and, you know, like, you know, operate with
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goggles on of just looking towards like, you know, their blue check mark media, uh, as like, you know,
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for telling them the truth of what was happening on the ground and like, you know, just avoiding
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all the reality of what actually was taking place. Um, and so they just like, you know, push that.
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And then ultimately by the end, I mean, I think, you know, I feel like they did a great job and like
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after 17 days, like, okay, like, you know, there was, there was definitely like, okay, this,
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this thing's got to kind of like, you know, break up in some way. And I just wish there had been
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like, you know, cause we've seen a lot of, a lot of like, you know, positive momentum and positive
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changes all across Canada as a result of it. Um, but, you know, it's a real shame that instead of
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like, you know, engaging and asking them to like, you know, peacefully leave that instead we're going
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to like, you know, bring in a bunch of storm troopers and like, you know, cause this kind
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of scene that really just further kind of makes people angry. And it also like painted the whole
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thing as like, you know, a protest that's where they got like their protests. Whereas this is really
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a movement. It was like, you know, a, a freedom movement. And then, you know, combined, but we're
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talking about emergencies that coming after the crowdfunding and like, you know, and it showed
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like how in cahoots they were with GoFundMe to be able to do that. And then as soon as like, okay,
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there's an, there's an outside innovator and give, send, go to like, you know, send their demon
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hackers after that. And then docs, um, you know, all the participants of that basically is
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intimidation. And then with the, you know, with the mainstream media, like, you know, like
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seeking to report, basically intimidate, um, you know, the people, it was, it's full on psychological
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warfare that's coming from this camp, which is definitely, which it does not, I don't not
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believe this reflects kind of, you know, Canadian values and respect for the individual, respect
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for life and liberty and value creation. Um, it's just like, this is, it's like our way or the highway.
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And I think a lot of people are like, yo, your way has been like really messed up the last two
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years. And before that, you know, it wasn't so evident, but like in the last two years, like you
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guys have gone really crazy. And like, you know, how much fear can you be pushing on the people?
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Um, you know, like preaching, like scary, scary, scary coronavirus, stay at home, like, you know,
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drink and keep drinking and order all your food in line and, but don't connect with your other
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people. Let's close down the bars. Let's, let's ravage small businesses of Canada while supporting,
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you know, the Amazons, the Costcos, the Walmarts, et cetera, the, you know, the, the, the, the
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blah, blahs, shoppers, blah, whatever. Um, and then all with like, you know, the pharmaceutical,
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um, you know, industrial complex being the massive beneficiaries of it with zero, uh,
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accountability or transparency into these gargantuan deals. Um, like, you know, the scope
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of which these deals, like when they announced that, like right at the end of this whole,
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at the, like the end of the trucker convoy, they're like, we're going to spend two and a
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half billion dollars on rapid tests. What, what, like, you know, it's like, you want this
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thing to keep going. Although the same time they're talking about banning single use plastics.
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And it's like, this just doesn't make any sense. And I remember like in the beginning,
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all through this, I was wondering, I was like, Justin, why are you talking about, you know,
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vitamin D or exercise or nutrition or like, you know, helping people's immune systems and like,
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you know, encouraging Canadians to improve their immune systems so that they'll be, you know,
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more capable of fighting this, but there's none of that. It's all about fear and then positioning
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hope in the vaccine, which, uh, or whatever you want to call it, this, you know, their experimental
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magnetic goo, experimental gene therapy injection is what Reiner Fulmich and, and what's his name,
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David Martin are calling it, which I think is great. David, I calls it a fake vaccine. I think
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that's also a good one. Um, you know, and, but, and then to be pushing it on all the kids while at the
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same time, like, you know, watching my kids go to school and like, you know, being forced to wear
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masks. I was like, Oh my gosh, like, it's so terrible for a, for a seven-year-old and a four-year-old
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to be forced to wear a mask all day. It's so dehumanizing, demoralizing and like, you know,
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and again, it's like, why did we do any of this? And if we look back to the roots of it, like,
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I think it's important that we study what took place here and really search for accountability
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because at the end of the day, like, you know, it was a concerted effort by, by a few, you know,
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in cahoots with like, you know, global mainstream media to shock in all the world into being so scared
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of a coronavirus that, you know, they, we destroyed small businesses and destroyed the way of life on,
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on, on planet earth. But with that, again, with that, with the darkness comes great lightness.
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And I think it offered a lot of people an opportunity to reflect on their own lives,
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where they live, who they hang out with, why they're doing what they're doing. Um, you know,
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it triggered this massive remote work thing, which is kind of, you know, a little bit, a little bit
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interesting, but you know, that's one of the realities of it. But I think a lot of people kind of,
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you know, woke up to this too. And with this shock, there's been a lot with all the darkness,
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there's been a lot of light and I'd akin it to that we're in this age change. We're like,
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you know, the way things were pre pandemic wasn't like great. Like, you know, there's still a lot of
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issues. And so this chaos is providing us with an opportunity to like, think about new systems and
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new system design and implementing in, and, and creating this. And I mean, I have been in the
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crypto industry for a while and believe that, you know, this tech can be utilized to actually
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create privacy and more abundancy, you know, in society and love and create accountability and
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transparency and responsibility within our public institutions and within organizational decision
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making. And that comes to, you know, the idea of DAOs. Now, it's funny, because during all of this,
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I've seen strange friends and allies forming because resistance to the pandemic is really resistance to
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government control and authoritarianism. I think that's really what it's about. And you're seeing
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people who normally are not on the same side politically, march at the same protests, you've got,
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you know, the, the granola types, you've got the Christian, right, blue collar workers, they're all
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marching at the same protest, because it doesn't break down along party lines anymore. It's people who
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want to be left alone, and the people who just won't leave them alone, alone. And that's sort of where
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politics are these days. And we've seen, as you point out, the merger of the pharmaceutical
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companies, the media, the media, banking with the government. And it's created this sort of
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four-headed hydra of controlling people's lives. But you have a sort of a plan or an idea to
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decentralize and take the power back from these power-hungry beasts that have accumulated it over
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the last 24 months. And one of those is cryptocurrency used to be the executive director of the Blockchain
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Association of Canada. What role does cryptocurrency play in all of this? And do you think the government
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will ever be able to regulate it? Because they, they seem like they want to, or they've hinted that
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they're going to. But then when I hear Christy Freeland talk about it, it's like listening to my
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mother-in-law try to understand how to program her remote control. I don't think she quite gets it.
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Well, and it's important, like, you know, to look at the reactions from, like, you know, some of the,
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you know, small monsters. Like, for example, Mark Carney. Like, I remember watching him,
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like, someone talked about Bitcoin, and instantly I watched him, like, like, oh, like, you could see,
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he was like, oh, no, it was like, he doesn't like it. Like, they don't like it. Because it's a,
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it's a threat to their monopoly on, on money. And, you know, if in a world where we just have,
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like, you know, these central bank issued currencies, that they can create it as much as
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they want ad nauseum, they have all the power. But as people start moving to parallel systems,
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and Bitcoin represents a parallel system, and cryptocurrencies represent a parallel system,
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and where you can create, you know, different tokens to represent, you know, different interests,
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or have different utilities, you know, all of a sudden, these are these new systems that make the
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existing one obsolete. Now, it doesn't make them, like, you know, it doesn't remove them overnight.
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Like, you know, you can still use cash, but it's not as it's not, it's, there's other alternatives,
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we are, we've broken the monopoly of money with, with cryptocurrency. And now they're now like,
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you know, one of their next moves that they're trying to push is the idea of this CBDC, the central
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bank digital currency, which won't be like Bitcoin, it'll be like, be like just basically a digital bank
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account, but you know, you'll need permission in order to participate in it, and it'll probably be
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attached to your identity. And they can, like, you know, like, instead of needing to go to instead
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of needing to go to the bank to say, close down that account, like, they'll be able to, okay, let's
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just shut down that account, or, you know, and, and, like, I get that, like, you know, in this central,
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like, you know, with ever increasing centralization, you'd want that power. And, but there's going to
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be resistance to that, like from our banking industry, for one, because it make them kind
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of obsolete, because, you know, you will just be able to get a bank account, basically, an account
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with the, with the Bank of Canada, but I don't know, they'll, they'll work that, that, that stuff
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out. But ultimately, like, you know, the great thing about crypto is, like, you know, by downloading,
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for example, like Edge Wallet, which is a self-custody wallet, it's like having a Swiss bank in your
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pocket, like the old Swiss banks, not these new woke ones. It's, it's like, you are in full
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control, you have your keys, you can send money, you can receive money, you can swap them, you can
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utilize it for different services. And ultimately, like, you know, that's where identity is going
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to be going to, what we solve, what Bitcoin solved, making, making kind of like, if you
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look, think about your wallet that you might have, like, I don't know, I don't have a wallet
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anymore, but like the ones that we used to have, you'd have your cash slot, then you'd
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have your card slots. And like, Bitcoin solved the cash. And then, like, you know, blockchain
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and digital identity will solve all the different cards within it. And they're all different
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pieces, like, you know, and I think there's a, there's a lot of fear out there with digital
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identity, rightly so, because centralized digital identity solutions are very threatening. If
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Accenture, IBM, Microsoft are the ones acting and the governments are acting as, you know, the masters
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of all of our data, then, you know, the black mirror scenario where like, boom, you've been deleted
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and becomes very possible. If we have decentralized, you know, self-sovereign digital
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identity, where, you know, we hold on to all of our different shards of information. And
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sure, if like the, you know, if the government has, you know, your driver's license, it's
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like one piece of identity that I then hold, you know, within my wallet, as opposed to like
00:25:41.880
a card that I have to go, you know, occasionally get, you know, pay money to have it renewed,
00:25:48.620
et cetera. And then at any point too, like already the government can go and like suspend
00:25:53.700
my license. Like there's nothing stopping them from doing that right now. You know, and
00:25:59.740
then, and then the last thing about this, so we've got like, you know, the, the, the cash
00:26:03.460
and then we've got the cards, but now it's like voting and like voting is, you know, one
00:26:10.240
of the big things because we don't have much transparency into the voting thing. And here
00:26:17.660
in America, I know there's a lot of real questions. Like I was just at General Flynn's
00:26:21.580
like reawaken America tour, man, people got a lot of questions about the integrity of
00:26:28.080
the election system. And I think a bunch of Canadians also have questions about the integrity
00:26:33.520
of the system. And I think people also were, are many Canadians who really cared last election
00:26:41.100
time round. Like, you know, they participated with like, you know, for example, the PPC, it
00:26:45.820
seemed to be the only party that, you know, was talking about lockdowns and, you know,
00:26:51.580
the pharmaceutical agenda and all this, this, these things. And, but they were, they were,
00:26:56.380
you know, they weren't allowed to be participate in, in the election and debates, et cetera.
00:27:01.320
And you weren't even allowed to participate in the debates. And then when you did participate
00:27:05.460
in the debates, they didn't answer your questions. They said, I don't want to answer questions
00:27:09.540
from you guys. Like what? Like, how is that? Is that, is this real? Like, is this, is this real?
00:27:16.900
And so thinking about like utilizing blockchain technology, and this is what I wrote in this
00:27:20.580
book though, which is short, it's only like, you know, 20 pages, just like a primer to say,
00:27:24.180
come on in, come on in, let's explore what we can do when everybody has the ability to vote on
00:27:31.320
things. Like imagine instead of it just being 360 people in Ottawa voting, you could actually vote
00:27:36.880
on all those things they're doing. Like whether or not they're going to snatch some bank accounts.
00:27:42.660
Or enact the, enact an emergencies act or spend two and a half billion dollars on, you know,
00:27:50.540
fake tests. Yeah. Or the media bailout. Or the media bailout. And it's like, you know,
00:27:57.200
and then, and then as well, you can use the technology too. Like think about CBC, for example. Okay.
00:28:01.260
They're funded by the Canadian taxpayers. Well, how about the Canadian taxpayers decide what content
00:28:05.140
goes on CBC? So like, how about we like. Someone would have to watch it first. Who are we going
00:28:11.080
to appoint to watch it? Well, I mean, or, or, or, or the, or the, or the broadcast or like, you know,
00:28:17.260
all the radios, like there's great infrastructure within CBC too. So, you know, if we want to talk
00:28:22.800
about like, you know, how about we leverage that to have like, you know, open, open radio within
00:28:27.300
Canada so that, you know, if people really want it, if enough Canadians are like, let's have
00:28:31.840
Rebel News on, on like utilize the CBC radio infrastructure. Like an actual public broadcaster.
00:28:38.680
Actual public broadcaster. Wow. Indeed. I mean, like, you know, those are the things that,
00:28:44.200
that, that, that we can happen. And I also asked on Twitter the other day, it's like, you know,
00:28:48.880
what are some things that, um, you know, all Canadians might get behind that the politicians
00:28:54.680
will never get behind. It's like income tax, like politicians never touch that one. Canadians,
00:29:02.240
you know, like I swear, it's like 90% of Canadians like, yeah, we don't need that. Especially when
00:29:08.260
presented with a very clear, like, you know, solution to it. And there are plenty of alternatives
00:29:14.840
to this, like, you know, this horrible ball and chain that is income tax. Um, you know, and so,
00:29:22.860
you know, we're utilizing new systems, we can address some of these systemic,
00:29:26.640
like mythical beasts within Canadian society that, you know, need to be like, you know,
00:29:36.100
challenged and, um, you know, and start like removing a lot of, I think we've just lived in a
00:29:43.920
society where there's just so many laws that it's like, you know, we spent our entire life, like,
00:29:49.500
being told what we can't do. Yeah. And well, and there's so many issues to where the political
00:29:54.700
class is completely detached from the normal people. Immigration is a great example of this.
00:30:00.360
I don't think there are very many Canadians who are actually against immigration. What they have
00:30:04.960
a problem with is the immigration levels and allowing immigrants to fully integrate and become
00:30:09.780
successful before you take in a bunch more. And it, that's another thing that breaks down
00:30:14.740
completely across party lines where even NDP voters will say, you know what, once you tell them
00:30:20.940
every, like the yearly immigration target, they will say, I think that's too high. I'm not against
00:30:26.580
immigration, but let's bring that down a little. But that is something where the politicians in
00:30:32.240
Ottawa, it's like a bidding war of who can get more immigrants into the country. Normal people say,
00:30:37.400
you're not setting them up for success when you do that. And you know, again, this goes to your
00:30:42.560
point about income tax. This is something where the politicians are over here and the normal people
00:30:47.780
are way over here and the media are over here enforcing the politicians opinions on it.
00:30:53.280
Yeah. And creating this fake consensus amongst Canadians that this is what people really want,
00:31:04.380
I mean, what CBC is suggesting, what CBC, CTV, Global, Global Mail, like, you know, post media,
00:31:11.660
they're all like just pushing this, this, this twisted version of reality that is like their
00:31:19.500
subjective perspective on how people should be and should act and et cetera. And it's like,
00:31:25.240
you know, I think the vast majority of Canadians do not identify, you know, with that speak.
00:31:30.500
Some people are under hypnosis from, you know, being under it. And like, you know, the more times
00:31:36.760
a lie is told to you, like you eventually believe it. And then like, when you can, like even further,
00:31:43.800
like another six months of that, then you begin defending it. So, you know, all of a sudden,
00:31:48.120
like, you know, we've got a bunch of these hypnotized people out there who are like, you know,
00:31:51.720
defending this. But then, you know, when they're actually challenged, they won't discuss it.
00:31:58.000
Well, and sorry to interrupt you, but I think people are also scared too, to hold a differing
00:32:01.980
opinion. Look what happened to the people who quietly donated to the convoy, 25 bucks to a
00:32:06.280
trucker. And all of a sudden, CBC is calling you to enforce the government's narrative that you are
00:32:12.180
supporting terrorism. So there are a lot of people who are afraid to speak up because they see what
00:32:18.340
happens to everybody else when they speak up. Well, exactly. And I mean, I just started like
00:32:22.120
a Patreon and it was like growing. I was getting a couple of new patrons every day and like whatever
00:32:26.520
that platform is centralized, kind of like, you know, it's only a matter of time, I'd say. But
00:32:30.920
then all of a sudden it was like, no, it was like, you know, again, people, people were afraid.
00:32:35.140
And then also like, you know, we had the Bitcoin fundraiser too, and they came after those people
00:32:39.180
too. And they, you know, they went after them, they came after the walls, they showed up their
00:32:42.900
houses, like shutting down bank accounts. And it's just like, you know, this oppression and what,
00:32:47.620
you know, in the end of the day, what's going to happen, it's going to drive all of like the best
00:32:51.980
innovators out of Canada. And they're already, it's already happened. We've already lost like a lot
00:32:56.760
of the best innovators have left Canada. They're like, I'm not going to deal with it there. Or
00:33:00.740
they've like, you know, they've, they've gone like, you know, off grid, they're going into like,
00:33:04.340
you know, prep or doomer mode. And, you know, but I don't think that's good either. And like,
00:33:09.320
you know, in talking to a bunch of like my colleagues, they're like, you know, we're really
00:33:14.700
like, you know, concerned about the situation here. And, you know, we've definitely considered
00:33:20.800
leaving, it'll cost us a lot of money to leave. But if we leave, it's like, I don't want to leave
00:33:26.740
because this is my home. And this is my community. And this is where I grew up. And I feel like if we
00:33:33.060
leave, like, you know, we're going into an uncertain situation and kind of leaving. So it's like,
00:33:38.080
you know, this is the importance of we must stand and start like, you know, coming together
00:33:46.820
as communities at the local level, at the town hall level to discuss things critically and to start
00:33:56.180
enable, like utilizing tech that gives us our voice back and enables people to submit proposals
00:34:03.780
and, you know, generate or be civically engaged in society because we have been disconnected.
00:34:15.300
The government in this current, like, you know, fascistic, commie kind of structure, it is about,
00:34:22.200
they're trying to create this bilateral relationship between individual Canadians and the government.
00:34:28.000
And it's like, you know, it's like, it's all, there's just this big force that we need to directly deal
00:34:32.580
with. And it's like, you don't recognize that, oh man, all around you, you've got communities.
00:34:36.380
And when we start working together as communities, then we can take our power back. And like,
00:34:41.360
you know, and when it comes back to like the, really at the local level. And I think, you know,
00:34:46.240
a lot of rural Canada, like, you know, many of the cities, they, they have their own challenges,
00:34:52.260
but like, you know, by and large Canadians all around, like, you know, they support each other.
00:34:56.720
They, they, they, they've got each other's backs. And, you know, and from my perspective, it's like,
00:35:03.160
okay, let's explore the tech side of this. Let's call on the builders, because we have some of the
00:35:08.180
greatest, greatest innovators and inventors and developers and creators, you know, in the world.
00:35:13.720
A lot of them have left, but that doesn't mean they don't want to participate. And it also doesn't
00:35:17.300
mean that people like, you know, outside of the world can also help in building this. So it's like,
00:35:22.920
you know, now's the time to understand what do we want the system to look like? What's the ideal
00:35:26.780
outcome for it? What are the covenants within it? How do we make this not a governing system where
00:35:31.780
somebody else is still in control of us, but we as individuals hold on to our power and our like,
00:35:38.420
you know, self-sovereign power, powerful people.
00:35:43.980
Yeah, it's, uh, it's really easy to want to run away off the battlefield when you're bullied by
00:35:49.460
politicians, when you're bullied by the media and your bank account could be seized, but that's
00:35:54.220
exactly what they want, uh, people to do. They want to bully you into, until you are no longer
00:36:01.340
engaged. They want to bully you into compliance. Um, Kyle, what is the best way for people to get
00:36:07.500
their hands on your booklet that I read that stimulated my thoughts so deeply?
00:36:12.260
So it's on Amazon. For now. Um, yeah, I'm probably going to just do like a, do a, do a video reading,
00:36:22.740
but it's called CanadaO. So CanadaO. DAO stands for Decentralized Autonomous Organization. CanadaO.
00:36:29.520
How we return power to the people. Um, yeah, it's like, I don't know, it's a couple dollars on Amazon.
00:36:36.640
Um, if you want to kind of engage, check out Canada, CanadaO.org. Um, and you can join like,
00:36:46.300
you know, this, the beginning of this, what I hope to be an exponential organization. Um,
00:36:51.260
so any way that, you know, you want to be involved and everybody can like, you know,
00:36:55.180
be involved in, you know, whatever capacity they want. That's the beautiful thing about free will,
00:36:59.240
um, and engagement is like, you know, kind of come on, let's build the list. Let's try and get more
00:37:05.820
and more people. Like if we talk about absolutes, like if everybody in Canada, like, you know,
00:37:10.140
was participating in this and we could all vote on everything and be really apparent, like, okay,
00:37:14.260
why do we need the, you know, the queen or the Westminster system of governance anymore? Like,
00:37:18.640
you know, why do we need to be paying these guys all this money and their staffs, all this money
00:37:23.120
to, you know, vote against the interests of Canadians, um, you know, and vote for the interests of,
00:37:29.440
uh, a select few who, you know, or, or corporations. Um, yeah, so, so Canadao.org. And then I've also
00:37:37.900
got a Patreon channel that I mentioned earlier. So it's Patreon front slash Kyle Kemper, um, where
00:37:42.780
kind of for as little as dollar a month, if you want to like support me, I am independent in this.
00:37:47.480
I have no oaths to anybody. Um, I'm, I'm like, you know, unlike others, I have no, I have no oaths
00:37:56.980
that, like, you know, that, that govern, except to my wife, my incredible wife, Britt. Um, and then
00:38:03.500
I'm on Twitter too, you know, as long as that lasts. Um, who knows every day is a borrowed day
00:38:09.720
on Twitter. It's like, I, I, you try to just, but I, I, I feel like with Twitter again, you can,
00:38:15.220
as long as you're just, you, you just gotta be kind of careful with, you know, your words. I say
00:38:20.460
that to everybody in general, like, you know, be impeccable with your words. Um, because like
00:38:25.340
recognize, like, you know, that you can, you can make, you can, you can like, you know,
00:38:30.360
create anger or stoke division or stoke fear with your words. Um, like, or you can cast light,
00:38:36.240
you can cast dark magic or black magic or white magic. Um, yeah. So, and then like, also it's
00:38:45.200
like, you know, there's guys that are trying to get us angry too. So don't let them get you angry.
00:38:49.460
Like when, when you get angry because of them, it just is giving them your power. So it's just
00:38:54.960
like, stop giving them your power. Be a happy warrior. You angry, be a light worker, like go
00:39:02.720
out there. Like, you know, like they learn from the truckers and freezing man, like, you know,
00:39:08.620
the power of dancing and music and sharing and radical inclusion and discussion and, you know,
00:39:16.620
community effort, um, you know, and civic engagement, like, you know, together, like this
00:39:22.800
is how we, how we can do it, like, you know, create, provide an invitation to connect for
00:39:28.580
others to, you know, connect and accept freedom into their lives. This is an acceptance movement,
00:39:35.700
not a resistance. This is about accepting freedom back into our lives and recognizing, you know,
00:39:43.000
that our jailers, um, you know, in the current government and, you know, are these hierarchical
00:39:50.120
centralized systems that we represent the lowest level of this pyramid, um, they'd not serve our
00:39:57.220
interest. So let's leave the pyramid and let's, let's work together in, uh, you know, in a, in a,
00:40:03.760
in building this new earth, this new Canada, um, that can focus on abundance, um, you know,
00:40:10.560
through participation and collaboration as opposed to division and scarcity. And I know it can feel
00:40:17.500
pretty scarce right now. And that's kind of like, you know, what they're trying to do, um, you know,
00:40:22.460
with this, but as we start coming together and working together, we can recognize that this
00:40:27.140
scarcity is kind of in a, a fear generated illusion and it's gotten pretty far, but just because like
00:40:33.520
we are here doesn't mean it, it's going to limit us from where we can go. And I don't have all the
00:40:39.000
answers. I'm just, I put, made this book as an idea towards taking this. Someone wants to go ahead
00:40:44.680
and just build it, like go for it. Let's build it. If you want to connect, like the future is about
00:40:50.120
cooperation and, and connection. So like, you know, I'm talking about Canadao at like a federal
00:40:55.780
level, but we're going to need Ontario and Quebec and like all in Alberta and then city daos. So
00:41:02.780
like, you know, Calgary, Edmonton, Toronto, and then neighborhood daos, and then other organizations
00:41:07.920
too. Political parties as well should probably be media organizations as well. Like, you know,
00:41:13.620
within, within rebel news, like there's an opportunity for, uh, utilizing DAO memberships
00:41:19.940
to enable like, you know, voting governance, because once you have the power of the community,
00:41:24.680
you'll find there might be a real, real opportunity. You know, people may be donating a little bit every
00:41:29.920
month towards different causes, but if they could really feel empowered to create, wow, like, you know,
00:41:35.980
all of a sudden, Hey, you know, a national network of, of antennas could go up. Um,
00:41:41.680
you're just full of solutions and ideas, Kyle. I want to thank you so much for taking the time.
00:41:51.880
Um, I'm a little disappointed in myself that it took you, it took me so long to have you on the show.
00:41:56.980
Um, and hopefully you'll be generous with your time and we'll have you back on again very, very soon.
00:42:02.000
I'm totally down. I really appreciate everything that you've done and you and Ezra and Avi and the
00:42:09.660
whole team all around. Um, you know, it's, it's doing the work of, you know, angels and actually
00:42:19.160
showcasing what's going on. And, you know, I like, you know, myself, my family, my media family, um,
00:42:26.920
you know, freedom lovers everywhere. Thank you so much, Sheila. Keep up the great work. Keep going
00:42:32.300
forth. Be a great mom, be a great human. You're awesome. Oh, I appreciate that. So I appreciate
00:42:38.800
that so much, Kyle. Thanks so much. I appreciate it. Appreciate you.
00:42:42.220
Well, that sure was fun. It's food for thought. And as I said to Kyle, I think the truckers convoy
00:42:58.780
was a reaction to normal people realizing that all the institutions they trusted have completely
00:43:04.840
failed these past two years. And the people decided to do something for themselves, which is,
00:43:10.980
I think what Kyle is advocating for as well. I'll include the links to his booklet and his social
00:43:16.600
media and his Patreon in the show notes today. Go ahead, check it out for yourself. Well, everybody,
00:43:22.300
that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here in the same
00:43:27.580
time, in the same place next week. And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had