Looking back at 2022 and predicting what 2023 will bring us with key Freedom Convoy participant Tom Maratzo. Sheila Gunn-Reed looks back at the year and the events of the year, and takes a look ahead to what she believes will happen in the next decade.
00:00:00.000Looking back at 2022 and predicting what 2023 will bring us with key Freedom Convoy participant Tom Maratzo.
00:00:08.020I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:00:10.020Today's show is a bit of a long one, so I'm going to cut my usual preamble short.
00:00:31.940Now, for those of you who don't know, the Freedom Convoy was a movement of, well, it grew from truckers once the federal government decided to impose a cross-border vaccine mandate on them after they were able to cross the border freely to keep the economy going without a vaccination for two years.
00:00:48.900That one act of tyranny that didn't make sense to so many people sparked a nationwide movement of people who had just, frankly, had enough, vaccinated and unvaccinated alike.
00:01:02.960People who were tired of being told what to do, what to put in their body, how to treat their neighbors, were sick and tired of seeing their friends and family demonized, not being able to travel, not being able to work because of a conscientious medical choice.
00:01:18.060And so many people said, I'm not against vaccinations.
00:01:20.460I just want to take a wait and see approach to this one.
00:01:23.880And so many of them were thrown out of their jobs.
00:01:27.300And so the Freedom Convoy rose out of that.
00:01:30.140It went to our nation's capital, Ottawa.
00:01:33.140It was there for nearly four weeks, completely peacefully.
00:01:36.980Thousands of people were there in the streets playing hockey, holding concerts, enjoying their hot tubs, having barbecues, feeding the homeless.
00:01:48.380All this was a bridge too far for the boring people who live in downtown Ottawa.
00:01:53.360And because of the international embarrassment that these working class people were causing to our pompous and frivolous Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, he invoked a wartime law, the Emergencies Act, to put an end to the protests and suspend the civil liberties of all Canadians, seize bank accounts and arrest the convoy leadership who had never done anything really all that wrong.
00:02:17.600They were arrested under mischief charges, which is definitely not sedition, although if you got all your news from the mainstream media, you would think that it was some kind of January 6th plot.
00:02:30.220Tom, who is joining me on the show today, was a key participant in the convoy.
00:02:37.080And he was one of the people who worked very hard to alleviate some of the pressures on Ottawa's downtown core as part of a deal struck between the city of Ottawa and the truckers to show that they were working together in good faith.
00:02:55.220And that was just before the federal government decided that they needed to get involved and mess everything up.
00:03:01.480So Tom's got lots of opinions and Tom has paid a high cost for his moral and ethical stance against forced vaccination, but against the treatment of his fellow Canadians.
00:03:15.100And he was also one of the key analysts that we brought in during the Trucker Commission, the Public Order Emergency Commission, which was the official examination of the government's actions in invoking that civil liberties suspending wartime law, the Emergencies Act on peaceful truckers in the nation's capital, doing the old full Venezuela that Justin Trudeau did.
00:03:40.240So joining me tonight is Tom, and hopefully he can bring in some of his analysis to discuss just the things that have really happened to us in 2022 and what he thinks 2023 will bring us.
00:03:51.680I know I promised you a short preamble, but I am still talking, so I'll shut up.
00:04:11.720And I think the biggest story of the year that started the year, but also finished the year, the trucker convoy and then the examination of the government's euthanization of the trucker convoy.
00:04:24.360And then maybe we'll move on to free speech issues and the state of Canada, but also probably the state of the world.
00:04:32.280I know you're not home right now, so I appreciate you taking the time to do this interview.
00:04:36.060Let's start off with the trucker convoy, because you were one of the key participants in it, as much as you like to downplay your role in it.
00:04:48.540We've talked about this before, but what was the impetus for you to get involved with a bunch of strangers and go to Ottawa?
00:04:55.320Well, you know, the reality of the whole thing was, for two years leading up to the convoy, for your viewers that are ex-military, they'll know the saying.
00:05:07.800I mean, it's a pretty common saying, but I was the gray man for a good two years during all the COVID garbage that was going on.
00:05:14.660Didn't want to draw any attention to myself.
00:05:16.320I just kind of wanted to put all my training and experience to play to protect my family.
00:05:25.300So I didn't want to be drawing any attention because things were just too unpredictable.
00:05:31.800I mean, if you remember what life was like in Canada, let's say 14 months ago,
00:05:36.340the level of fear that non-vaccinated people had in this country was, you know, absolutely off the charts for anything we've ever seen in Canada.
00:05:47.920So, you know, we were, those who are unvaccinated were not able to participate in society.
00:05:54.420I mean, Quebec was talking about excluding people from grocery stores.
00:06:28.280It turns out it's the federal government.
00:06:30.180Um, so when, when the convoy rolled through, I just, something told me that that was my opportunity to come out of being the gray man and to get involved and do something meaningful for this country.
00:06:45.440And, and it was just, you know, I was, I'm privileged with the opportunity that I had.
00:06:55.520And as soon as I was asked to participate, I was gone.
00:06:59.060I was in Ottawa immediately, uh, because I just recognized it for the awesome possibility that it could be, which I think turned out to be, uh, absolutely correct.
00:07:10.100And when, like one of the things that I, well, there's a lot of things I like about you, Tom, I shouldn't phrase it that way, but, um, you paid a high cost for, uh, your ethical stance remain unvaccinated.
00:07:22.500So it's not like you were just somebody who attached themselves to, saw a movement growing and said, ah, I got to get myself involved in that.
00:07:35.620I mean, I, I lost my job teaching, uh, in September, just over a year ago, right around the same week that, uh, Julie Panessi lost her job is when I got fired as well.
00:07:47.020You know, there was a small group of us that I was, uh, at Georgian college or a small group of, uh, other teachers there, and they were all worried as well.
00:07:55.140And, but I kind of thought, no, I, because I have a small army pension, I was a little bit more insulated against economic, uh, hard times than, than the rest of them were.
00:08:06.600So I said, look, I'm willing to stick my neck out and we'll see what happens.
00:08:12.580And if I get my head chopped off, then you guys will learn, you know, it's kind of like when, um, penguins are looking for a new place to swim and they throw one in the water.
00:08:21.680And if it gets eaten by an orca, uh, so unfortunately I got eaten like, uh, by a big giant college level orca and, uh, everybody else kind of said, all right, we need to adjust.
00:08:34.720We need to adjust our plan because clearly, uh, publicly pushing back, isn't going to work.
00:08:39.020So, yeah, I mean, it's been a difficult year.
00:08:41.300I lost my job, um, had to sell, uh, my home and then, uh, you know, just a whole series of different things have happened.
00:08:51.220And I still haven't had a job, uh, since I've, uh, I lost my job teaching, but I've, I've been really busy this year.
00:08:59.040I mean, I, I went to the convoy right after I ran in the Ontario election, uh, with the Ontario party.
00:09:06.200Then right after that, cause I didn't get elected, obviously.
00:09:09.840Then I was helping out James top, uh, with Canada marches.
00:09:13.600And then I had some time in the summer to, uh, figuring out my, for my living arrangement.
00:09:21.320Um, and then I ended up in Ottawa for, for two months for the, uh, public order emergency commission.
00:09:27.940So it's been a very busy year and I feel like every few months I have to reinvent my whole entire life.
00:09:34.120And, uh, now we're heading into Christmas and, and really I got to just get that book written.
00:09:41.100It's delayed because of the, uh, the commission.
00:09:43.820Um, cause at first I didn't want to, I didn't want to write about the commission, but after sitting there for two months, listening to the testimony, I, I, I feel that it's absolutely necessary.
00:09:53.840Now that I have to add in a lot of the context and the backstory that we learned, uh, of what the government was up to during the entire time of the convoy.
00:10:02.620So I think that that's, that's an important part of the story that needs to be told, especially from my point of view, my context.
00:10:09.560Yeah. Uh, and the story is not quite over yet. I mean, we won't even know.
00:10:14.600I sat in that commission room, you sat in that commission room, you sort of get a feel for what's happening, but you never really know.
00:10:21.820I've sat in on tons of court cases and thought that they were going one way.
00:10:24.820And then all of a sudden I'm like, what the heck just happened here?
00:10:27.660So we won't even know really how things went in the public order commission until February.
00:10:33.640And that might be delayed the same way the public order commission was, but I want to, I want to talk to you about that next because you were instrumental in executing a good faith deal.
00:10:46.800That was struck between the convoy leadership and the city to put an end to what, you know, the, the worry warts on the other side called the siege of downtown Ottawa.
00:11:00.100You were moving trucks out of downtown Ottawa as a show of good faith, uh, to sort of undo some of the traffic snarl and, uh, the inconvenience felt by the few thousand people who live downtown.
00:11:11.960But, uh, you were doing that and instead of recognizing that in good faith, you were making those efforts, the federal government dropped the hammer and, um, you know, hit the nuclear button on the emergencies act, which is something we've never seen before.
00:11:29.120And that was incredibly frustrating too, because, you know, I realized a couple of things during the actual commission.
00:11:36.040Uh, one, we showed incredible restraint, uh, because very, very easily, very often we could have easily put that entire city in constant, a constant state of, uh, checkmate, you know, but we showed a lot of restraint where we said, no, we're going to do a lot of things, uh, to try to build a working relationship, at least with the law enforcement and hopefully get the goodwill with the government.
00:12:13.020But, you know, when you listen to the testimony during the commission, it was incredibly frustrating.
00:12:18.340And I, I remember saying to Keith and Brendan, uh, you know, our two lawyers that were fighting it out every day.
00:12:25.440Uh, well, Eva and Bathsheba, I mean, the four lawyers.
00:12:29.020And I remember saying to them, listen, the one question I think I, I would like you to ask each of the witnesses, like key witnesses, was, did you ever have the will to go and at least talk to the convoy organizers?
00:12:44.080And, you know, there was a lot of back and forth discussion as to why they weren't going to ask that question to all of the witnesses, but they were asking, they did ask it to specific witnesses.
00:12:55.220But what was striking to me was day after day after day, we sat in that commission and we listened.
00:13:01.020They never from day one, even you heard Justin Trudeau's testimony.
00:13:05.080They were talking about, uh, the emergency act on the 27th of January, the day before the convoy even arrived, that was their go-to default thinking immediately.
00:13:16.460You know, there was never any engagement.
00:13:18.420You saw testimony from the PMO's office where, you know, the, the media was painting a very dark story about the convoy.
00:13:25.980And yet the PMO's office was talking about, no, no, no, make sure that we don't put pressure on the convoy because we want them to keep all their, uh, what they called crazies, uh, keep them in the convoy so that the leadership of the convoy that was traveling across the country wouldn't push them out.
00:13:44.440Like they wanted, they were, they were hopeful that we would show up as a very, um, radical idea.
00:13:53.200I mean, there were already discussions about a possible January 6th scenario here in Canada, in Ottawa, you know, which is ridiculous, uh, given all of the support that the convoy was getting as it traveled across the country, you know, people were waving flags.
00:14:08.300January 6th, I don't even know why that's a comparison.
00:14:11.100It's a comparison because I suppose it's effective at demonize the con, the convoy, but it's not a fair comparison by any stretch.
00:14:19.420That's not what the intended purpose was.
00:14:21.360And yet we saw from day one, the government just wanted to vilify and the media wanted to vilify the convoy.
00:14:29.500And so when we listened to the testimony, it made sense that nobody wanted to talk to us.
00:14:34.120Nobody wanted to engage in any dialogue.
00:14:36.500We believe that they would in the reason being, cause they've done it for pipelines.
00:14:40.080They've done it for indigenous, but for a bunch of Canadians, you know, from every walk of life in this country, why would you want to possibly talk to them?
00:14:46.800You know, it, it, it just baffles the mind to see the level of, um, desire, default thinking to put this protest down, uh, before any discussion of, of actually speaking to us.
00:15:04.340And that's what we heard day after day after day in the commission.
00:15:08.240You know, um, I think maybe some of the people in the convoy, convoy were blindsided by just how sinister the federal government was.
00:15:16.340Um, you guys were thinking, okay, well, they might not like us, uh, they might disagree with us on everything, but like they might engage with us, but they had no intention of doing any of that.
00:15:30.580And the convoy remained peaceful the entire time we found out that actually they had been on the receiving end of violence.
00:15:38.520And I'm not just talking about the government kind, even though government has a monopoly on violence.
00:15:44.060Um, you know, there, there was, um, there were outside actors, um, who threw eggs at the convoy truckers and the truckers never responded in kind.
00:15:54.300And this whole January 6th narrative, anytime somebody raises it as, you know, this was sedition.
00:16:43.440And, you know, we, we, I was reminded during the commission too, um, or I had spoken to our lawyers.
00:16:49.560Cause I, I, it was a really important detail that I hadn't given much thought to since the commission started.
00:16:54.800But, you know, in halfway through the, we were threatened, the truckers were threatened, all the families that brought their children and their dogs.
00:17:02.620They were threatened that if the truckers didn't leave, that they were going to come in and euthanize people's dogs.
00:17:32.220But, you know, this was the issue for us is that we, we showed so much restraint, um, because I can tell you a first year captain in the army could have basically put that whole entire city into gridlock.
00:17:45.220Like we could have easily put them into checkmate anytime we wanted to, we didn't, we deliberately did not do any of that stuff.
00:17:53.380I mean, we, we did some slow rolls through Amazon.
00:17:56.840We did some slow rolls through, um, the airport, but we were just trying to demonstrate that if you want to escalate things, we've got the ability to escalate as well, but we don't want to.
00:18:10.240And I remember saying to the police the day after they raided Coventry because they came in very heavy handed.
00:18:18.800Um, and, and I saw what they had done and I said to the police the next day, I said, look, if you want to do tit for tat, we can easily do this.
00:19:26.740That was the message we were trying to get across to them.
00:19:29.540And, you know, it worked for about two weeks until they came in and they just raided under the emergency act, which, by the way, we all heard during the testimony that was not required.
00:19:40.400Every law enforcement person that testified said, well, we didn't need it.
00:19:43.380We had the power to do what we needed to do under normal criminal code stuff.
00:19:47.220But, you know, Justin Trudeau and all of his psychopathic cabinet ministers were just hellbent on picking our back.
00:19:58.760And, you know, moving tanks, joking or really considering moving tanks in on peaceful protesters, Tiananmen Square style, whether they were joking about that or not.
00:20:10.080OK, first of all, you get to choose what kind of disgusting jerk you are.
00:20:14.500You can be the kind of disgusting jerk who jokes about using tanks on peaceful protesters or you can be the kind of disgusting jerk who actually considers it.
00:20:23.260But it's really dealer's choice. I think you're awful either way.
00:20:26.340And we saw cabinet ministers joking about using tanks on peaceful protesters while simultaneously denying military equipment to the Alberta government, who didn't want anything other than just access to tow trucks if they needed them or heavy haul equipment because they're dealing with tractors at the Coutts border.
00:20:47.040And the Fed said, no, we don't. First of all, we don't have it.
00:20:49.760We don't have it. Then we don't have it to spare.
00:20:52.420And then, sorry, we just can't give it to you.
00:20:55.080And it is my understanding that people from the Alberta government went to CFB Edmonton, laid their eyeballs on the equipment, knew it was there, and that's how they need to ask for it.
00:21:05.240And the feds denied it to them while considering using tanks on peaceful protesters in the nation's capital.
00:21:11.760Yeah. And I found that to be very, very, very strange dynamic because I had actually seen a copy of the order that the chief of defense staff,
00:21:22.420was actually talking to the prime minister's office and saying, hey, if you want to use this, we'll help out.
00:21:29.100Which is strange. I find that to be very uncharacteristic of the role of the Canadian military.
00:21:35.900Because, you know, I participated in the G8-G20 summit in 2010 in Toronto.
00:21:41.960And the brigadier general that we were all working for, for that, he every day said, look, the Canadian military cannot be perceived as being the lead agency for this entire event.
00:21:53.480This is a law enforcement, a government in Ontario, government in Canada event.
00:22:10.980And so, you know, that was in keeping with everything that I had ever believed about the Canadian military's involvement in a domestic operation.
00:22:18.340You know, typically the military gets a flood, an ice storm, something like that.
00:22:23.660But to put down a peaceful protest, you know, is so offside.
00:22:29.080I mean, I don't know how to describe it.
00:22:30.600But then when you see this current chief of defense staff offering support to Ottawa was ridiculous.
00:22:37.640And I kind of understand why Edmonton didn't want to get involved as well.
00:22:42.020But when you look at the testimony of the Minister of National Defense, I was just thinking, like, how is it that you're in charge of the Canadian military?
00:23:30.700And those are the people that you want in positions of leadership, right?
00:23:35.720Like, those are the people who are, have a strong moral compass.
00:23:39.580They see things in black and white that, you know, they're, they're led by their ethics.
00:23:45.560And those people, if they resisted forced vaccination, they were shown the door.
00:23:50.340And so, while it's bad right now, I think in five years, we're really going to see the extent of the damage to our public institutions done by Justin Trudeau's vaccine mandates.
00:24:03.840Yeah, and I, I absolutely believe that's true.
00:24:06.760When I ran in the Ontario party this, this summer, a small part of me was actually quite worried that we could end up becoming the government of Ontario.
00:24:14.740Well, I'm worried because, you know, my, my thought was, if we formed a government, because of some Hail Mary, we form a government, now we would have been responsible for cleaning up this mess.
00:24:27.520And do you think the voters were ever going to forgive you or distinguish the difference between what, you know, Doug Ford and Justin Trudeau did to Ontario versus a brand new party that has to come in and clean up all the carnage?
00:24:38.700Um, so I was always slightly a little bit worried about that, that, you know, the public, when things were really bad, you know, they set the conditions for it to get to its apex of, of really bad, but the government, you know, you're the government.
00:24:53.640So now you're in charge of, of cleaning it up.
00:24:55.580I don't know if the voters were to ever forgive a brand new party for the mistakes of a previous government.
00:25:01.700And I just didn't want to have to be the one that came into Ontario and cleaned it all up and then got blamed for the mess to begin with.
00:25:07.600Yeah, well, I think Danielle Smith's experiencing a little bit of that here in Alberta, and she's the same party as the guy who caused all the problems.
00:25:17.420But, um, you know, I think at the end of the day, you just have to say what you're going to do and then do what you said, which seems to be what she's doing so far, which, um, I could talk to you about the trucker commission all day, but I want to talk to you about, um, a couple of other things, uh, the things I had on my list were, uh, the state of free speech and the gun grab.
00:25:34.620But since we're talking about Danielle Smith, let's talk about, uh, the gun grab because she's been leading the way in the fight against Justin Trudeau's, um, illegal confiscation of, I guess, Canada's entire hunting gun inventory.
00:25:47.280Um, with the exception of just a few, um, the provincial government in Alberta is working very hard to make this sort of an amnesty zone for law-abiding gun owners where our new premier has advised that our RCMP are not going to enforce this law because they don't know how they could.
00:26:06.500A lot of these guns, well, most of them are moving from unrestricted to now prohib.
00:26:12.040So the government doesn't know where they are.
00:26:13.960They were, they were never registered.
00:26:15.780So the only way that you could possibly find them is to expend stretched RCMP resources to go door to door down the list of registered gun owners or PAL holders and kick in their doors and say, do you have an SKS in here?
00:26:30.980Um, and, um, Danielle Smith has said, that's not going to happen.
00:26:34.600And she's sort of having that DeSantis effect where he stood up and said, we're not doing this.
00:26:40.160And then all of a sudden Texas said, yeah, us too.
00:26:47.500And then all of a sudden Saskatchewan and the Yukon and Manitoba are like, yeah, us too, us too, us too.
00:26:52.180Um, what do you think is going to come of the gun ban?
00:26:55.180I think it's just absolutely impossible to enforce.
00:26:58.180And I think this might be the one thing that Justin Trudeau has overplayed his hand with.
00:27:03.580I was just going to say, I think that this is the one issue that Justin Trudeau is not going to be able to get away with.
00:27:12.000And, and this is, you know, really a testament to the moral courage of Danielle Smith and any other provincial government that finally stands up and says, listen, you guys have been so out of control.
00:27:24.340Uh, in Ottawa, that this is, this gun thing is the line that we're not going to let you cross.
00:27:32.300You have backed us up into so many different, uh, walls, but this one here, no, absolutely not.
00:27:39.040And, you know, prior to COVID, I might've been a little bit more like, okay, why do you need a 50 cap?
00:27:44.440You know, why do you need to own something for, cause there's no elephants in Canada that you need to go hunting.
00:27:50.260So why do you need this big, massive Gatman gun?
00:27:52.880Um, and I, I say that jokingly, but, you know, given everything that we've seen and learned, I question everything about the Canada that I once believed I live in.
00:28:05.260I question everything about, uh, this country.
00:28:08.160And I will say this, I think that history has shown that every time a government has disarmed its people, it's always worked out incredibly bad for those people.
00:28:19.900So if the police are willing to give up their gun, then the public could give up their gun.
00:28:25.920But until that happens, I don't think it's reasonable that you can have a government that is armed and can come to your home and commit violence against you when you have no way to defend yourself against your government.
00:28:37.760And so I, I don't think that any Canadian should give up their gun and, and I have to be careful here because I don't want to end up getting charged with an utterance or something stupid like that.
00:28:49.280Um, but what I want to be clear about is I don't think that any government has the right to tell you, you cannot own a firearm.
00:28:57.440And so I think it is one of those rallying issues where ordinary Canadians are going to come up and say, you know what, just like when you froze bank accounts, um, this gun issue is, is a drastic overreach of government, uh, authority.
00:29:12.040And so I think it should be, should be stopped.
00:29:15.080And, and I, I'm very appreciative that Danielle Smith and, and I dare say Scott Moe, because, you know, I, I'm not done with Scott Moe.
00:29:22.740I think, uh, Scott Moe's got to go, uh, sorry about the rhyme, but I think he needs to, to be removed, uh, legally, obviously, but I think the other provinces have to have big changes in leadership.
00:29:34.360And I think they have to start respecting their constituents and, and doing what is right for their provinces and put what is right for the country on the back burner.
00:29:45.220So I'm very, very happy, you know, with the sovereignty act.
00:29:51.640Alberta needs to get rid of the RCMP as well.
00:29:53.960They need to convert them to a provincial police force, uh, or just get city cops.
00:29:58.020But honestly, they need to get rid of the RCMP because you shouldn't have federal police inside your jurisdiction, dictating Ottawa's policy at the provincial level inside your, your jurisdiction.
00:30:10.100So I think I'm, I'm hopeful that Alberta gets rid of the RCMP.
00:30:15.680Um, I just don't think it's a good marriage to be in.
00:30:20.100And because, you know, guns are criminal code stuff.
00:30:25.380So if you've got federal control like that, and you've got a federal police force inside your province, they do technically have the ability to execute search warrants and come into your home and take your guns away from you if you're registered and you have to be registered.
00:30:40.840So I, I really, I'm really happy to hear that at least Alberta is leading the way and saying, you're not coming for the guns.
00:30:51.940Well, and that's the thing that I think is, and I hate to use the word offensive because sometimes you need people say I'm offended.
00:30:58.260It just means to me, you can't control your emotions.
00:31:00.900There's something quite defensive about a federal government creating a special class of criminal out of the law abiding while on the other side of the equation, reducing the mandatory minimum sentences for a whole host of gang related gun crimes.
00:31:19.340So if you are involved in gun trafficking and committing crimes with guns, armed robbery with guns, your mandatory minimum sentences are disappearing.
00:31:29.660But over here, somebody who's got a gun in the gun cabinet didn't, it's their grandpa's, in my case, and all of a sudden, it's, it's illegal, and I'm a criminal.
00:31:42.080But that guy gets a lower sentence for committing a crime with a gun and mind just minding its own business waiting for duck season.
00:31:49.020Yeah, and I, you know, there are days in this country where I look and see what the governments are doing, and I, the worst pessimist inside of me comes to the conclusion that it's almost a deliberate dismantling of the foundation of a society.
00:32:08.140And I think, you know, we look at the Royal Canadian Legion, as an example, you know, all out on the East Coast, they were denying James Topp access to their legions to rent them.
00:32:19.840He's a five time deployed, and of the five times he's deployed, four of those were combat missions.
00:32:25.640Okay, he served 27 years in the regular force.
00:32:29.040He walked across Canada, peacefully protested, raising awareness for the government overreach.
00:32:34.160And yet, they denied him access, but they're hosting drag queen shows all over the place.
00:32:41.400And it's like, you're hosting a drag queen show where you're right on the pamphlets, it's saying, bring your children.
00:32:47.660I mean, we're talking about men dressed up as women, women in doing sex shows.
00:32:52.060Okay, this is fundamentally upside down.
00:32:55.660And you look at it, and you say, what is the point of this, if you, if for no other reason than to just completely disrupt any moral, ethical standards that we have in our society?
00:33:06.960Like, yeah, overnight, grandpa can now become a criminal because of the hunting rifle he has.
00:33:12.500But a rapist has a lower sentence and is back on the street.
00:33:16.620And it's like, they're deliberately trying to dismantle the very foundation of our society.
00:33:22.740And you just, you know, and then you get into this other legislation, the free speech, this is Bill C-11.
00:33:29.800You know, now it's they want to control the internet, because they don't want conversations like this, that you and I are having right now to ever be seen by Canadians.
00:33:37.640They want to be able to control the dialogue that you and I have, because God forbid Canadians think anything else than what the government propaganda machine wants you to think.
00:33:48.420You know, this is really, we're getting into Ministry of Truth territory here.
00:33:52.200And it's obvious, and they don't care.
00:34:15.740Yeah, and there's a third part in that unholy trinity there.
00:34:19.560You said the Liberals, the NDP, but there's also the mainstream media, who you would, in normal times in a different country, they would be squawking about the crackdown on free speech and the free press in this country.
00:34:34.220But it doesn't matter to them, because they are, I think, denied the rightful market correction that they need for their lies and their constant support of the Liberals, because all they do is get handouts from the Liberals.
00:34:48.480So while, you know, independent media, we've got to hustle, we've got to sort of, you know, if we get something wrong, we hear about it right away from our donors, because we're connected to them all day long.
00:35:00.740But the mainstream media, they don't have that.
00:35:37.180And then the government, and then the media will look back at the government and say, hey, wow, they're really supporting us in our effort.
00:36:07.000And because they've been getting away with all the lying that they've been doing since COVID, why would they care about their own ethical standards?
00:36:14.380They've just been lying with impunity and getting away with it.
00:36:18.660So they don't have to circle back and actually do a look at their belly button and try to reflect on, what have I been doing to this country in the last couple of years?
00:36:30.220And if there were a lot of ethical journalists out there, you would be seeing more of them acting in terms of a whistleblower capacity or leaving and going to different alternative media outlets.
00:37:21.460Sorry to interrupt you, but this is why they can't understand people like you is because you were willing to lose your job to stand on the moral hill of forced vaccination.
00:37:31.440And so they can't understand people like you because they will say and do anything for a paycheck.
00:37:37.180Yes, and that's why they call them prostitutes, right?