Rebel News Podcast - April 30, 2025


SHEILA GUNN REID | Mark Carney Elected—Fitch Issues Credit Rating Warning, PCO Predicts Hunger Games Canada by 2040


Episode Stats

Length

38 minutes

Words per Minute

160.88124

Word Count

6,229

Sentence Count

565

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

Chris Sims of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation joins me to talk about what the election means going forward for the Canadian taxpayer and what we all need to do next. She also gives us her take on the new Prime Minister, Mark Carney.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Carnie one, what now? I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:00:21.460 Thanks to the systemic and historic inequities of Confederation, the Prime Minister of Canada was
00:00:28.500 chosen for us long before Westerners were even done at the ballot box. Do we freak out? Do we
00:00:36.320 languish in morose and malaise? Or do we get up and figure out what to do next? I am of the latter
00:00:46.600 mindset rather than the former. And I think my guest today is the very same way. In fact,
00:00:53.100 even on election day, she told me to stop being such a doomer. And I wish I had listened to her
00:00:59.160 because it's not over. I think the fight for something better begins now. And so my guest
00:01:09.820 from last week, Chris Sims, to last week, she joined the show to break down what the different
00:01:19.500 economic platforms meant from each party while she joins me now to talk about what the election
00:01:27.480 means going forward for the Canadian taxpayer and what we all need to do next. So joining me now is
00:01:36.220 my friend, Chris Sims, in an interview I recorded earlier today. Take a listen.
00:01:41.080 So joining me now is my good friend, good friend of freedom and good friend to the taxpayers,
00:01:54.160 Chris Sims of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. Now, Chris was on the show last week pre-election
00:01:59.300 to break down the economic platforms of both parties. Now we know the election outcome,
00:02:07.820 despite our best efforts out here in the West. We will have Mark Carney as the minority prime
00:02:14.460 minister of Canada. And I want to know what that means now for my and your family's bottom line.
00:02:21.780 Chris, thanks for coming on the show. Do I have to get real good at strangling geese in a public park?
00:02:29.380 What comes next?
00:02:30.580 Of course, what she's talking about is this study that the Privy Council, which is basically the
00:02:40.740 permanent bureaucracy of the prime minister's office, they came out with a study saying, yeah,
00:02:46.120 things are going to get really grim in the future, not too far in the future, where people will have
00:02:50.920 to forage for food in public parks. And I love how you said strangle geese, Sheila, because of course,
00:02:57.520 Mark Carney wants to take all of our guns. Right. So we won't be able to hunt for our elk anymore,
00:03:03.780 or moose or whatever. Even pheasant, I guess, will be off the menu because they're harder to catch.
00:03:08.760 We're going to have to go to the slow moving geese and just choke them out. Yeah. So
00:03:13.480 in all seriousness, for the finances, yeah, we're probably in for a bit of trouble with Carney.
00:03:25.420 But I wanted to give people a pep talk first. Okay. This is a very slim minority. Okay. It is not
00:03:34.060 nearly as strong a minority that Trudeau had with Singh. Okay. Yes, I'm looking at the seat math,
00:03:42.040 as I call it. It doesn't look awesome, because it looks as if the NDP will be able to support the
00:03:49.880 liberals, at least on a vote by vote basis. And they don't deserve that. They do not deserve that.
00:03:55.800 They completely collapsed. And they're the reason Mark Carney got the seats that he did.
00:04:01.000 They don't deserve now to continue to hold the balance of power, which is at the end of the day,
00:04:06.380 holding the electorate hostage. Yeah. And that's what's going to happen for a while, at least.
00:04:11.640 Um, and as of right now, the NDP doesn't have a leader. So I would say for the foreseeable future,
00:04:18.360 that's what's going to happen is they'll just kind of vote, vote along to get along with him,
00:04:22.680 with Carney. So that's a thing. But to the points that people have been sharing around the last couple
00:04:30.460 of days, the conservative vote, if that's what you were going for, okay, the conservative vote,
00:04:37.480 vote, uh, was so high. Like when Stephen Harper won his majority, I think he got about 39.6% of the
00:04:45.900 vote, maybe a little less, but it was 39. Uh, Pierre Polyev, I think it was close to 42 or 43%.
00:04:54.300 Yeah. By the end of it. So he hit such a high watermark. We haven't seen that big a popular vote
00:05:02.620 for the blue team since the eighties. Like hanging tough was like number one on the charts with new
00:05:08.860 kids. Sorry. I have to work into our hit because it makes me happy. Um, hanging tough was topping
00:05:14.700 the charts back in the day when the last time the conservatives pulled this high. And the reason
00:05:19.180 why I'm pointing that out is because of course, Pierre Polyev was promising to get rid of all carbon
00:05:23.800 taxes. So nuke the carbon tax from orbit. He was promising to reverse all of the gun grab laws,
00:05:29.620 which would have been awesome. He was promising to get rid of all of the censorship laws, which is
00:05:34.120 again, outstanding. And we need that for our free expression. And he was going to defund the media,
00:05:39.400 which is a huge factor here. So this is why I understand the vast majority of our viewers right
00:05:45.420 now will be kind of wondering what's next. So what I think is going to happen next is I believe this is
00:05:52.840 my hunch. I have not talked to them. Um, I believe that Pierre Polyev will have to find a dark blue seat.
00:05:59.620 So he'll have that monkey off of his back. He'll officially have a seat back in the house of
00:06:03.880 commons. And this has happened before. There have been cases where we've had political leaders,
00:06:08.440 obviously who don't have seats in the legislature. Jagmeet Singh didn't. Sure. Exactly. Exactly.
00:06:14.040 Um, Daniel Smith didn't when she became premier. Yes. Jim Prentiss, neither. Yes. So this,
00:06:20.960 this does happen. Was it, um, an, a scorpion sting at the end of the day for him? Yeah,
00:06:27.420 for sure. That would have been really rough to see those numbers. Yeah, but fixable. So what he
00:06:33.040 needs to do is he needs to find now, and this is just structurally, this would happen if it were
00:06:37.100 any party. Right. So in this situation, what the party leader does is they find a loyal soldier to
00:06:43.840 take, you know, fall on the sword and offer up their seat. And then what they need to do is they need to
00:06:49.700 file for their request to have a by-election. And then it is up to the prime minister when a by-election
00:06:56.680 in that riding is called. Typically in tradition, it's within three to six months. Right. So really
00:07:04.460 fast. However, Pierre Polyev is still the official, his majesty's official loyal opposition leader.
00:07:10.620 He'll stay in Stornaway. That's his official residence. None of that changes for him, his wife,
00:07:16.220 and his kids. All that stuff will stay the same right now. But technically, he does obviously
00:07:20.920 want to get a seat back in the House of Commons. As quick as possible. Yes, as quick as possible.
00:07:26.620 Because there's nothing I would enjoy more as a parliament nerd than seeing Pierre Polyev
00:07:32.460 axe murder that robotic prime minister that we have in question period, which is why I think
00:07:39.760 Carney will, and he loves to use hockey analogies, rag the puck on that by-election as long as possible.
00:07:47.760 Because I think the more people get to see his bad performances in the House of Commons,
00:07:53.400 the less people are going to like him.
00:07:56.320 He can try. I think that would upset an awful lot of people, including...
00:08:01.460 I don't think he cares.
00:08:02.420 Yeah, maybe not. But I'm trying to...
00:08:05.200 I know. I'll stop being the doom scroller of this interview. I'll stop.
00:08:12.700 I was texting her on election night. I'm like, cheer up, damn it!
00:08:16.640 I knew.
00:08:17.860 I know. But it was early. It was the Nova Scotia numbers, the initial ones we were seeing. And I
00:08:22.440 was seeing, at the time, a four-seat gain. It turned into not be a four-seat gain in Atlantic
00:08:27.800 Canada for the Conservatives. But anyway, I digress. So, first things first, I believe
00:08:32.400 structurally what they're going to do is find Pierre Polyev a safe seat to run in, get the
00:08:38.760 by-election done. Two, I think the answers are still the same. And the arguments are still
00:08:45.680 the same. It's about affordability. Like, normal people cannot afford basic elements of life
00:08:52.480 here. And so I think the two elements will be affordability and the strangling control of
00:08:59.400 Ottawa. Yeah. And so with affordability, they need to keep on fighting to get rid of the
00:09:04.660 industrial carbon tax, which he is going to roll out any second now. Yeah. And it is going
00:09:09.440 to be mega expensive. We're trying to find out how expensive. Okay. Two, he's going to introduce
00:09:15.800 his brand new carbon tax tariffs, which are separate and apart from the industrial carbon tax.
00:09:21.300 So this, for folks who don't know, Carney, Carney loves carbon taxes so much. He describes them as
00:09:29.560 a cornerstone to his belief system for the world. And that's in his book. Anyone who's not read his
00:09:36.640 book yet, pitter-patter. You must. Yeah. You must. I'm sorry. Borrow it from the library if you don't
00:09:41.120 want to give him money. Get your hands on Mark Carney's book. Read this thing. Yeah. Because he's now the
00:09:45.700 prime minister and he's got a very good chunk of seats in the house of commons. And it looks like
00:09:50.720 it's going to be that way for a while. And he kept the climate radicals, you know. He did. All of them
00:09:55.780 are there. The same old Trudeau climate radicals are going to be in his cabinet too. Guibo is there.
00:10:01.320 All the anti-oil people, all the anti-energy people, all the anti-production people, they're all there.
00:10:06.660 I'm sorry, but they are. Yeah. So the elements we will be focusing on are the industrial carbon tax
00:10:14.180 tax that goes along with carbon tax tariffs, which are going to make stuff in your store cost more
00:10:19.300 because Carney's going to hit them with a tariff. The censorship laws, okay, which he is a huge fan
00:10:27.080 of, okay, we will be fighting those. We'll be fighting to defund the media because obviously
00:10:33.460 people can't be on government payroll and still be a journalist. It's a huge conflict of interest
00:10:39.120 and a big waste of money. And we saw that at play in this election.
00:10:43.360 Mm-hmm. You did. You're going to. I literally did.
00:10:46.900 I know. You literally did. Yeah. I saw, I think, did you have to duck? Maybe I dreamt that part.
00:10:52.360 I was watching your video. People were throwing paper.
00:10:56.260 Goodness gracious. This is like a bad cafeteria scene in a 1980s movie. So the elements we will
00:11:02.220 be fighting are things like the industrial carbon tax, the new carbon tax tariffs that are going to make
00:11:06.980 your life more expensive. We're going to fight the censorship on one side of the vice and the funding of
00:11:12.640 the media on that other side of that vice. We're going to be fighting the gun grab. Okay. Those are
00:11:18.720 all still very strong elements of this fight. And to give people some encouragement here. And again,
00:11:24.920 this is going along with the fact that in this case, the blue team was going to reduce how much
00:11:31.960 they were putting down on the debt. They were going to reduce your taxes more than the red team.
00:11:35.640 They were going to scrap all the carbon taxes. They were going to scrap the gun grab and they
00:11:39.240 were going to cancel the censorship plans. All of those things. If the red team had been pushing
00:11:43.320 for all of those things in earnest all this time, I'd be saying the same thing. So all that
00:11:48.100 understood. Um, did you see the youth vote? No. Yeah. There's a survey that go. Apparently my,
00:11:56.720 my 17 year old told me this. Cause you know, I'm not 17, so I don't follow it. Right.
00:12:00.800 But there's a youth vote survey that happens each time. Yeah. And the conservatives want it. Yeah.
00:12:07.220 I've never seen that in my life. It's always been green or NDP or something. Yeah. But this time
00:12:13.120 it's young people saying, and I can't blame them because they want to afford a house.
00:12:17.440 You know, of course. Uh, and I, I know that I've been a doomer, but I shouldn't, but I shouldn't be
00:12:25.140 because I was thinking about, you know, like we know the boomers in Ontario. And if you were,
00:12:30.720 you didn't vote for the liberals, I'm not talking about you quit writing the emails.
00:12:34.540 Look, I know that the women elected Justin Trudeau. I don't take offense to that because I didn't vote
00:12:42.100 for him. It's not me. I didn't do it. Um, but I know the Eastern boomers, they cared about fighting
00:12:47.960 Trump that that's, if you look at the polling data, that's what they said. And you know, they cared
00:12:54.420 about fighting Trump tariffs, but they are the people least affected by the tariffs. And so
00:13:00.380 here's my, my like bright spot in this mess. The conservatives actually swept the ridings
00:13:08.420 most affected by the tariffs. The conservatives snatched Windsor. Oh, did they keep that one
00:13:15.220 from the hands of the left? That's amazing. That's amazing. Those are auto workers, blue collar
00:13:21.500 unionized jobs, which normally vote NDP. They're voting conservative. Now they see as the conservatives
00:13:29.180 as the best people to fight Trump, regardless of what the insulated retirees in Toronto have to say
00:13:37.920 and endorsed the conservatives. Yes. That's a new one. Like that is a total new one. It's not all
00:13:46.660 that interesting to see like the steel workers in Alberta endorse the conservative. They build
00:13:51.440 pipelines, of course, but they build refineries. That's fine. But when you see unions in Ontario
00:13:57.540 coming out to support the conservatives, that's a new coalition forming that I think is a longer
00:14:04.240 lasting than whatever strange boomer lefty greenie coalition that Mark Carney has cobbled together.
00:14:13.540 We're seeing young people, young people, like young, young people, the next generation of voters are
00:14:19.580 conservative, blue collar people, families, business people, and indigenous people are voting
00:14:27.660 conservative. Chief Billy Morin swept his seat. Uh, Ellis Ross swept his seat. Uh, this is a new
00:14:35.660 development. We like, again, indigenous people in Alberta, of course they, they vote conservative.
00:14:40.940 Why? Because there is no more an indigenous industry than the oil and gas sector provides
00:14:47.120 good jobs in indigenous communities where you get to stay in your community and, and break from
00:14:52.780 generational poverty. But to see that happening in British Columbia is a little bit something
00:14:56.700 different. And so it gives me hope for a longer lasting, uh, movement to be built upon.
00:15:03.160 Yeah. Uh, Ellis Ross was for folks who don't know him. Um, I don't know him well, but being from BC,
00:15:09.040 I kind of picked up a bit more what he was saying. Um, he was, he was a chief, he was a government
00:15:14.020 leader in his regional area before he became provincial. Yeah. Yeah. Before he got into provincial
00:15:19.900 politics. Um, he ran for the leadership of the BC liberals. They were foolish to not put him forward.
00:15:27.440 Um, because he, he's, I would describe him as very fair minded. Like he's not, he's not a, doesn't have
00:15:35.420 a mean bone in his body, but he fights for his people, for his territory and for workers. And so
00:15:42.140 having him come along to the federal, think of this, he was a bit more, I would describe him as
00:15:47.700 progressive. Centrist. Yeah. Yeah. Centrist. Centrist. Right. And now he's come along to the federal
00:15:54.440 conservatives. And so, and he's fighting against things like, uh, pipeline bans and he's against
00:16:00.500 things like energy caps and he's against things like carbon taxes. So because he knows that those
00:16:06.960 big government policies just impoverish working people. Yeah. The same thing as tariffs, tariffs
00:16:12.600 only hurt working people with both their job losses and making stuff at our stores cost more.
00:16:19.640 Rich people don't notice that stuff because they don't know how much milk costs. They don't know how
00:16:23.460 much vegetables cost. Like when Carney said, I don't do the grocery shopping. I believe him.
00:16:28.300 He has the help go do that. So this is the big difference here. And so I wanted to encourage
00:16:33.860 people that we've been doing this fight in particular with things like carbon taxes, pipeline
00:16:39.340 bans, energy caps, censorship, those kinds of gun grabs, those elements of the fight. We've been doing
00:16:45.640 this now for years, so they're not changing. So we know how those feel in our hands. We know how to
00:16:52.040 mobilize. We know how to push back on them. And they reduced the minority right down to like this
00:16:58.580 big. Yeah. So, and what I was interested in, I don't know if those numbers stood up.
00:17:04.100 Correct me if I'm wrong. Did the conservatives get a million more votes than Ontario Premier
00:17:09.720 Doug Ford did in Ontario? Yes. Yes. That's big. Doug Ford, in spite of his sabotage,
00:17:17.280 him and his cronies, this is me saying this, not you, Chris. Doug Ford and his cronies with their
00:17:24.100 aspirations on the prime minister's chair, willing to sabotage the conservatives and sell the rest of
00:17:30.240 us out in the West in the middle of an election campaign, saying the conservatives, the federal party
00:17:35.920 doesn't know how to campaign. Well, they smoked Doug Ford's numbers in his own province. And what a
00:17:43.460 wild thing to say, especially after all those people who volunteered to get Doug Ford elected
00:17:52.180 were part of the federal campaign. What? Like you're shooting inside the house, Doug Ford.
00:17:58.600 That was strange. I know. I'll give you a really concrete example of my puzzlement over what is
00:18:03.640 going on in Queens Park. Oh, I'm not puzzled. I know. I figured it out. But anyway, I'll be quiet.
00:18:09.740 I'm trying to be dainty. I know. So you're like, and I see what you're doing. So with I'll give you
00:18:16.620 Hamilton, for example. So back going back to the industrial carbon tax, going back to the trade
00:18:21.840 unions endorsing the federal conservatives, the pipe workers, the pipe workers of Hamilton who work
00:18:28.720 in the steel industry came out with their face and in print saying, we endorse the conservatives,
00:18:35.980 the blue team this time around, because they're promising to get rid of the industrial carbon tax.
00:18:42.020 They say the carny industrial carbon tax will, quote, decimate, meaning obliterate, decimate
00:18:50.940 the steel industry in and around Hamilton. Hamilton, last I checked, is in the province of Ontario.
00:18:57.780 Yeah. Okay. Big time. Ford likes to put on a hard hat and a high visibility vest the way a lot of
00:19:04.960 politicians like to. Okay. Playing dress up there. What is he doing? Not coming out swinging against
00:19:11.840 carny's industrial carbon tax. Right. In the same way Scott Moe did of like, it's on like Donkey Kong.
00:19:18.640 Daniel Smith, she came out against it, but in more of a stay out of my backyard sort of way,
00:19:23.880 because she wants provincial control over everything. But Moe like full on said, stop it
00:19:29.340 with this industrial carbon tax nonsense. And so, but Ford wasn't there. He didn't show up. So from a,
00:19:36.840 from a working person perspective, which is supposed to be his base, right? Like steelworkers in Hamilton,
00:19:43.060 he needs to keep those folks, but he didn't come out and defend them, which was astonishing.
00:19:49.020 Yeah. And the auto sector in Windsor. You know, you look at what happened during this campaign.
00:19:59.420 John Rustad went out strong for Polyev. Daniel Smith, strong for Polyev. Scott Moe, strong for Polyev.
00:20:07.060 Brad Wall. Brad Wall. He came out of retirement as Canada's most popular premier for 10 years
00:20:12.940 and endorsed Polyev. So you've got four superstars. I mean, the only other person I could think of is
00:20:20.280 a message from beyond the grave, Ralph Klein. And Doug Ford is standing there with Carney.
00:20:28.740 Yeah. Selling out his fellow conservative premiers.
00:20:32.440 So in financially, they, they're not balancing budgets in that province. Like there's a lot of
00:20:38.140 fiscal mess. Oh yeah. So yeah, it's, it's, it's definitely a thing. Um, did you want to quickly
00:20:44.440 touch on what Smith is doing with the, uh, referendum changes? I will. As a last topic,
00:20:51.100 first thing I want to talk to you about is, okay, so Mark Carney promises to spend a hundred billion
00:20:56.100 dollars more than, uh, Justin Trudeau. Apparently he's the calm wise banker. Who's just making it rain
00:21:05.520 with cash. And while the rest of us have to bait in raccoons, uh, down at the playground,
00:21:11.440 um, and almost instantly, uh, Fitch, which is like a credit rating company, Fitch ratings comes out and
00:21:21.800 says, not even 24 hours after Carney's elected, they're saying that Canada is risking it's losing
00:21:29.360 AAA rating. If the liberals actually do what they campaigned on, which is what the rest of us have
00:21:35.660 been saying. We can't afford this. And now the international credit ratings, uh, organizations
00:21:41.040 are saying, yeah, yeah, you can't do that. It's bad because the, you can't foist that debt load
00:21:47.460 upon the taxpayer and not think that there are going to be real implications for your, for your
00:21:53.360 country's finances. Yeah. This is a trying not to be grim, but this part is grim. Um, this is a
00:22:00.400 problem. Uh, I was legitimately surprised. I thought I was misreading it when it came out on that
00:22:05.520 Saturday during the campaign that Carney's going to add more money to the debt than Trudeau was
00:22:10.300 planning to. Right. So I thought that maybe high level, like an average person would have viewed
00:22:16.580 Carney as, Oh, he's a banker. So he'll be fiscally responsible because he's a money guy. Uh, turns out
00:22:21.760 the banker is going to be worse with money than the drama teacher. Yep. I did not expect that, but
00:22:27.780 it's a reality. So this is what he's planning. And you're right that the international credit
00:22:32.340 rating agencies are really on top of this. This is the problem if that happens. So we pay interest
00:22:39.860 on the debt. So right now the debt is about $1.2 trillion. We pay billions and billions and
00:22:46.440 billions of dollars every single year, just in the interest payment on that debt. It in fact,
00:22:52.660 eclipses how much the feds give the provinces for healthcare. So the next time you hear somebody say,
00:22:58.520 what about our vaunted healthcare system? Well, we're paying more just on our credit card interest
00:23:03.740 payment on the stupid debt than we're paying technically for healthcare. Right. If our credit
00:23:09.760 rating diminishes, that goes up in the same way that you can't borrow at a good rate, if you've got
00:23:18.220 bad credit, this would be results basically in the country of Canada having bad credit. So that means
00:23:26.080 that our interest rate is higher. Our borrowing rate becomes higher. So this is why that's really
00:23:33.320 important. And so at this point, I'm hoping that Carney with his PhD from Oxford and economics
00:23:42.520 really does have good connections with smart fiscal minded people around the world. I truly hope this
00:23:51.080 because they need to talk to him and sober him up and say, no, bro, you can't do this. Um, I know what
00:23:58.360 you said during the election or whatever, I don't care what he has to say. Um, he, he can't screw up
00:24:03.680 our credit rating worse than it is right now. He needs to completely pull back on this crazy spending
00:24:09.420 plan and adding to the debt plan. He calls it investing. Countries only have taxpayers' money.
00:24:17.420 Investing is spending. Okay. It's the, he cannot separate his operating budget from his capital budget.
00:24:23.700 It's all taxpayers' money. It's all spending. So he needs to actually have a serious sober second
00:24:29.620 thought and look at this line by line, talk to really good financial advisors and figure out how
00:24:36.140 to stay on this side of the black so that we aren't nailed with higher interest costs as taxpayers.
00:24:42.980 But yeah, that is, that's a real possibility. Yeah. And then it becomes a fiscal hole. We just
00:24:49.220 cannot dig ourselves out of, uh, now let's talk about what's happening in Alberta. We're recording
00:24:54.640 this on Wednesday and we'll go to air on Wednesday, late Tuesday afternoon. Didn't even give Carney 24
00:25:00.540 hours. Madam premier Daniel Smith just actually made the citizens initiative act a usable law in this
00:25:12.220 province because before it wasn't, um, she made it so that just 10% of eligible voters in the province.
00:25:24.060 So that may vary depending on population, but 10% of eligible voters could, if within 90 days,
00:25:30.640 sign a petition to petition the province, to allow Albertans to hold a referendum on, uh, separation,
00:25:38.840 independence. I don't know what that looks like, but it actually became something that is
00:25:44.980 surmountable instead of the prior iteration of the law, which was designed to fail. Uh,
00:25:52.320 tell me what you think about that. So the taxpayers federation, we are the Canadian taxpayers
00:25:58.120 federation. So we were national. So we aren't taking a telling people what to think about this,
00:26:05.100 what the question would be on a referendum. However, as far as the mechanisms of direct
00:26:10.580 democracy and having referendums, we're all over that. We love that. Um, we think that we need lower
00:26:17.340 taxes, less waste and accountable government. And often the way to achieve those three things
00:26:22.420 is to have smaller, more local government that is responsive to you. And a great way to hold
00:26:29.600 governments to account, of course, is through referendums. So for folks who are watching outside
00:26:34.900 of Alberta, love you guys, always tune in, share, send this to your friends. Um, in Alberta,
00:26:41.800 we have a lot of direct democracy. Yeah, we can have voter recall at the provincial level
00:26:47.560 and at the municipal level and at the school board level if we really want to. So that's a big deal.
00:26:55.080 We have to have a referendum. I'll put it this way. We have the Taxpayer Protection Act.
00:27:01.180 Right. And if for some reason the government wanted to raise our taxes or introduce new ones,
00:27:07.300 they would need to win a referendum from the people to do that. Right.
00:27:11.480 Which is amazing. Right. So yeah, that's, that's direct democracy. We love that because it gets people
00:27:19.380 engaged. It gives them a voice to be heard. It gives them agency. It keeps politicians in line a lot
00:27:25.880 better than having none of these things. And it saves a lot of money because in this case,
00:27:31.160 we don't have a sales tax that saves families millions and millions and millions of dollars
00:27:36.700 here in Alberta every year by not having a PST. We don't have a PST because the province would need
00:27:43.280 to get a yes vote from the people before doing that. Or they would have to scrap the legislation
00:27:48.600 entirely. And then it would be on like Donkey Kong if they tried something like that.
00:27:52.320 So, seeing Daniel Smith come out and say, I'm not going to presuppose what the question would be.
00:27:58.360 It frankly could be on anything. It could be on having a provincial police force. It could be on
00:28:03.500 a pension. It could be on, I don't know, renaming it provincial park. Anything. Right. Do we want a
00:28:08.920 provincial official dog mascot? Whatever. She came out and said, yeah, we're going to make this usable
00:28:14.680 so that if you get enough people who are signing onto a petition, that will then allow them to put
00:28:20.540 forward a referendum question on whatever. So, that was really good to see just from a direct
00:28:26.200 democracy standpoint. Yeah. It's good to see a government that is putting checks on its own
00:28:31.260 power. It is. It's rare. As hen's teeth, it is rare. Yes. Now, Chris, tell me and tell the rest of
00:28:41.800 the people watching how they can get involved in the good work that the CTF does to advocate for
00:28:47.180 a smaller government and on behalf of taxpayers. So, again, I wanted to reach out to people,
00:28:53.460 especially if the vote didn't go the way you wanted it to. Don't be scared. Just channel that
00:29:00.300 frustration into the fight. Right. So, because this is how we win. Okay. If you take a look at it,
00:29:06.780 really, we made the liberal government have to blink over the carbon tax. They got so freaked out
00:29:14.000 about the carbon tax that they had to climb down on it, at least for now. For now. That is still a
00:29:19.240 victory. Okay. We've had a lot of victories lately. We also made them climb down on the capital gains
00:29:24.260 tax increase. Okay. So, this is what happens when push comes to shove. And governments will come and
00:29:30.980 go, but it's because of advocacy organizations like the Taxpayers Federation, and there are others.
00:29:37.200 We're not the only game in town. But it's because of advocacy organizations that are
00:29:41.560 run by real people, grassroots people, hundreds of thousands of people.
00:29:46.500 Thrift shoppers.
00:29:47.400 Thank you. Thrift shoppers. Thank you. Because if you sign up, go to our website, taxpayer.com,
00:29:54.660 sign one of the petitions that speaks to you. To Sheila's point, I think I've still got one on there
00:29:59.920 that removes the sales tax from thrift shops. Because it's wrong to punish poor people.
00:30:05.380 Right.
00:30:05.820 With taxes. It's disgusting. Especially on a used item that has already been taxed. So,
00:30:11.660 sign a petition that speaks to you. Do you want to cancel all carbon taxes? Do you want to scrap
00:30:16.380 the gun grab? Do you want to defund the media? There are all sorts of things there for folks to
00:30:21.420 sign up for. And then you're part of the Tax Fighter Army. Okay. I usually have a Tax Fighter
00:30:26.300 Army t-shirt, but this one is, this is why we can't have nice things. I love it. I love that one.
00:30:30.580 I like your shirt too. Thank you. So sign those petitions and then you're part of that army
00:30:35.460 and you'll get our email updates of the next time it's time to get out there and mass email a
00:30:42.140 politician, come to a pub night, attend a rally, really speak up for yourself. So go to our website,
00:30:48.700 taxpayer.com, join the Fellowship of Tax Fighters, and that's where you can stand up and be heard.
00:30:53.680 Chris, thanks so much for coming on the show. Two weeks back to back to explain why there is still
00:31:01.820 hope left in this country. Appreciate it. There absolutely is. And I think we all needed this.
00:31:06.740 Anybody can text me or email me anytime.
00:31:15.960 Well, we've come to the portion of the show where I turn it over to you. I give the third
00:31:21.560 segment over to my viewers because without you, there's no Rebel News. So if you have something
00:31:26.720 to say about the show that I recorded today, send me a letter. I'll give you my email address right
00:31:31.660 now. It's Sheila at RebelNews.com. Put gun show letters in the subject line so I know exactly why
00:31:36.840 you're writing to me because I do get a lot of emails in a day. Or even better, if you're finding
00:31:41.360 a clip of the show or if you've shared a clip of the show with your friends, either from YouTube or
00:31:48.240 Rumble, encourage them to leave a comment because they do go looking for those comments. And then
00:31:52.540 we can have a little bit of a symbiotic relationship because those comments push us higher up in the
00:31:58.420 algorithms so that more people see us. The algorithms then serve us up to more people based on the amount
00:32:05.540 of engagement and interaction that we get. So it's good for you. It's good for me. And we spread the
00:32:13.540 good word of conservatism throughout the land. But it's not always comments from clips of the show
00:32:21.500 that I go looking for. I want to know what you guys are saying all the time about our work.
00:32:25.680 It helps me help our journalists here at Rebel News. And so today's viewer feedback actually comes
00:32:33.800 from a clip of our daily live stream that I host. It's called Rebel Roundup and I have like a rotating
00:32:40.660 stable of co-hosts. Lise Merle, my friend from Saskatchewan hosts on Tuesdays and Wednesdays with
00:32:49.860 me. And on Tuesday's show, we looked at a breakdown of the issues for voters in this country.
00:32:59.260 And it showed that young people voted conservative for change, for affordability, for crime.
00:33:08.920 housing prices and the largest demographic of the Canadian population for boomers. Their number one
00:33:23.160 issue was none of those things. They voted for Mark Carney because they wanted Mark Carney to fight
00:33:33.520 with Trump. And it's kind of funny because today Trump comes out and says, yeah, I really like Mark
00:33:38.500 Carney. He's my guy.
00:33:39.360 Are you interested in rebuilding relations with Canada? And if so, how?
00:33:45.160 No, well, I think we're going to have a great relationship. He called me up yesterday. He said,
00:33:49.040 let's make a deal. He was running for office. They both hated Trump. And it was the one that hated
00:33:55.700 Trump. I think the least of that one. I actually think the conservative hated me much more than the
00:34:01.580 and the so-called liberal. He's a pretty liberal guy. But no, I spoke to him yesterday. He couldn't
00:34:06.640 have been nicer. And I congratulated him. You know, it was a very mixed signal because it's almost even,
00:34:14.440 which makes it very complicated for the country. It's a pretty tight race. But he's a very nice
00:34:20.200 gentleman. And we, uh, he's going to come to the White House very shortly within the next week or
00:34:26.940 less. So you think he's going to think they're going to fight? Or is Carney just going to give
00:34:33.420 Trump everything he wants? Anyway, that was their number one issue. And, uh, I think it worked to
00:34:41.040 the liberals favor, of course, because the liberals are the government again for the fourth term,
00:34:44.800 their corruption and mismanagement has been rewarded by people who are generally not touched
00:34:50.300 by their corruption and mismanagement. And so I went looking at the YouTube comments for what
00:34:56.860 you folks at home had to say. And again, I say this constantly. If you are a boomer and you didn't
00:35:02.280 vote for Carney, this isn't about you. Don't write me that email. Okay. Um, in the same regard that I know
00:35:10.960 women kept voting for Justin Trudeau, I don't take offense to that, even though I'm a woman,
00:35:17.820 because I know it had nothing to do with me. I didn't do it. So if I'm talking about boomers and
00:35:22.120 you're a conservative boomer, this isn't you, you're not the bad guy. You're you voted for your
00:35:28.180 grandchildren. So anyway, these are the comments from that video. And I thought they were pretty
00:35:33.080 darn insightful. Ms. Sparkles and Glitter writes, imagine being more preoccupied by a U.S. president
00:35:40.320 who's been in office for three months than the current governing liberals who have ruled for
00:35:45.500 nearly a decade. Isn't that right? How easily distracted these people are.
00:35:51.640 Kelly Cathcart says, I'm a boomer and I never felt Trump was a concern for me.
00:35:55.860 My grandchildren's future was my concern. Shame on anyone who voted liberal.
00:36:01.100 Our boomers are better than their boomers. It's obvious.
00:36:04.140 Meow on a mission, right? If only they knew Trump was an American. Yeah.
00:36:13.560 Trump didn't give us the crime. Trump didn't give us the inflation.
00:36:18.040 Trump didn't block our pipelines. In fact, he wants our pipelines.
00:36:22.340 Trump didn't do any of the out of control immigration here in Canada.
00:36:26.580 Trump didn't censor our internet or fund our media. Trump didn't do that. The liberals did.
00:36:36.360 And the liberal boomers just voted for more of that.
00:36:41.240 So people voted over Trump. I'm a boomer and have never voted liberal. This is from Kimberly K3928.
00:36:48.980 Kimberly, are you from Alberta? Because our boomers are really great here.
00:36:52.620 My goodness, how dumb. My grandkids need a better government. Yeah.
00:37:00.700 Ensign Redshirt Ricky says, when Carney taxes their home equity, boomers will realize they brought this on themselves.
00:37:13.660 Diplomatic13595 says, so people basically looked at the last 10 years and said, yep, more of the same,
00:37:22.440 please. Yeah, I guess so. And as a Westerner, what can we do?
00:37:31.740 We voted as conservative as we possibly could, but we can't carry this country.
00:37:39.780 It doesn't work that way.
00:37:41.240 And even though the mainstream media was calling the election before our votes were counted here in Alberta, that is actually the way it works.
00:37:51.880 And so something has got to change.
00:37:57.540 I don't know what that is. The people of Alberta will decide for themselves.
00:38:01.200 On that somber note, that's the show for today. Thank you so much for tuning in.
00:38:07.120 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.
00:38:09.920 And as always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.
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