SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Meet Lewis Brackpool, Rebel's UK Reporter
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Our UK based contributor Lewis Brackpool joins me on The Gunn Show to talk about how he got his start at Rebel, why he came to us, and what he plans to focus on next. We also talk about why he thinks vaccines should be legalized in the UK, and why we should all be vaccinated.
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Oh hey Rebels, it's me, Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're listening to a free audio-only recording
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of my weekly Wednesday night show, The Gunn Show. However, and I say this every week,
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this is the internet, so just listen or watch, preferably whenever you feel like
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that's the beauty of being on the internet and not terrestrial radio or TV. Now tonight my guest
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is my UK colleague, Louis Brackpool, and we're digging a little bit into what he did before he
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came to us and why he came to us and what he plans to focus on next. It's very interesting,
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Today on the show, we're getting to know our Rebel News UK contributor,
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Louis Brackpool, just a little bit better. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
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We're going around asking people their opinion on vaccine passports. Did you have an opinion
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No? You think people like Mark Drakeford should practice what they preach? Do you not think
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the passport might segregate society between the jabbed and unjabbed?
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It's quite easy to work out why Rebel News is not allowed to attend this conference. We are
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the organisation that asks the difficult questions and points out the hypocrisies of these world
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leaders and the mainstream media. But regardless of me not being allowed to attend, I'm going to
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still point out these hypocrisies, even if it means standing just outside the venue.
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There's a lot of people staring at me now. I've only been here about five minutes, and there's
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blokes in high vises just looking at me and seeing what I'm up to.
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Behind me, as you can see, I'm at the dockyard, where just above that is the English Channel,
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and just further beyond that is Calais of France. Now, the reason why I'm here today is
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Dover has consistently made headlines over the last year because the number of migrants illegally
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crossing from France has risen dramatically. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.
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That is the sound of the British public wanting their freedoms back.
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Anyways, that, friends, is our UK contributor, Lewis Brackpool. And when he started with our
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company, he really just learned how to run before he even learned how to walk. And that
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was completely necessary because the UK is experiencing so much of the same COVID tyranny and government
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overreach that we are here in Canada. Lockdowns, business closures, vaccination passports, all
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the while illegal migrants are just wandering right into the country unchecked. It sounds very
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familiar, doesn't it? But since Lewis joined the company, I haven't really had the opportunity to
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sit down and properly introduce him to all of you at home. He's been too busy working, which is,
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you know, kind of exactly what we hired him to do. So today we're catching up. And as it turns out,
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I learned a little something about Lewis at the same time as you do. So here's the interview.
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I recorded Lewis first thing this morning. Take a listen.
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Joining me now is our UK based contributor, Lewis Brackpool. Lewis, normally when people join the
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company, one of the first things that we do, one of the first sort of things of business that we do
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is we, or at least I like to, have our new contributors on the show to sort of introduce
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them to our viewers, particularly our subscribers behind the payroll. But you hit the ground running.
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So I didn't really have the opportunity to sort of slow you down, stop you and do that formal
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introduction. So I guess now that we've gone through the holidays, and now that you have a
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backspass in the UK, and we sort of know where you're fighting, I guess, welcome to the show.
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Thank you. No, I really appreciate that, Sheila. Cheers.
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Now, I wanted to ask you, because I don't really know this, and I'm the managing editor,
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but where did you come from? And how did you end up with us?
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Well, I was originally, believe it or not, a flight attendant before this job. And I was with a
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company for two years, just handing out chicken and beef, you know, as they do. And I was doing
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that for a while. Coronavirus hit and was made redundant. And I had a choice. I sort of sat there
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and thought, am I just going to wimp around doing nine to five, or am I going to get up and do what my
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passion is on the side? And that's politics. And I started on YouTube, was uploading about once,
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maybe twice every two weeks, and for a year. And I saw that there was an opportunity at Rebel,
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and I went for it a year later. And here I am, your colleague.
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That's crazy. I'm sort of interested by your experience as a flight attendant when the coronavirus
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struck. What was your initial impression of the coronavirus? I even know, like, I look back
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at myself over the past two years. And initially, I was sort of victim to that Chinese psyop when we
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saw all these leaked images of people just falling over dead in the grocery store. And my initial
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reaction is, China's awful. They're definitely lying to us. This is way worse than what they're telling
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us. Look at these leaked images. And so I was, I thought it was a lot worse than obviously what
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it is. What was your experience as a flight attendant? So do you know what's strange? Obviously,
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it's very clear what my view is now on the entire subject. But back then, I didn't know what to expect.
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I didn't religiously watch the news at the start. So when it hit, when we started hearing about it in
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November the previous year, and then we had our first lockdown in around February, March sort of
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time, when that happened, it was uncertain whether everyone would go back to work. We just thought
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that we were off for a few months or whatever. And then things would just flatten the curve.
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That's it. Yeah, we thought it was just that. And everything will be back to normal after we've
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slowed the spread. But no, I think all of our sort of lives have flipped upside down since and some of
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them are blessing in disguise like myself. So I'm kind of, I'm not grateful that it's happened. That's
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not what I'm trying to say. But, you know, when you're in a bad situation, you have to flip it into
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something positive. That's how you keep going in life. But originally, when the lockdown was first
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implemented, I was actually weirdly for it, because it was something new, brand new, we didn't know what
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was happening. And, wow, I was wrong. And I can, I'm so comfortable in saying that I was wrong for
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that. So yeah, I was pretty pro at the start, because I didn't know anything else. You know,
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I'm really happy to hear that, because there are a lot of people right now, I think that's one of the
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problems with society, people, people are so deeply invested in their first and initial assessment of
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this, that they refuse to reassess and say, you know what, I was wrong, we got it wrong. Clearly,
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after 22 or 23 months of two weeks to flatten the curve, that we overreacted, we did things wrong.
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There's not a lot of that, particularly in the people who are making the decisions to continually
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lock down. There's not a lot of that happening, at least not in Canada. What's your assessment of the
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UK? Yeah. So yeah, you're completely right about the societal issue. People are so afraid to be wrong,
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that, yeah, people bottle it up, don't they? And being wrong is like blasphemy, almost in society.
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So, but I think it's important to address when you're wrong, because that means that you're never
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going to be wrong, because you'll always be right if you correct yourself. That's how I see it.
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My assessment of the UK is pretty sluggish at the minute with all these rules. I think
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things are going to get worse still, but I think things can get better. The only way for things to
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get better is for people to just admit that originally you could have been wrong, put that
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pride aside and start focusing on what's going to happen in the future. I mean, we've got now vaccine
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passports. We've got potential restrictions that could happen. I still believe that we're going
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to go into another lockdown soon. I think they're just delaying it. And yeah, people are worried.
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People are scared about what's happening. And I want to thank my local conspiracy theorists for being
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right. So yeah, it's a scary and weird time. But yeah, you've got to put your pride aside and focus
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and keep on topic. Because that's my biggest criticism, I would say to the movement at the
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minute is they will start talking about vaccine passports and you know, the Great Reset, which is
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fine, not a problem. I think it's a very important subject. But then the movement starts to stray into
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the areas of things like 5G and chemtrails. And if that was my biggest thing, I'd say just drop that
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and focus on the topic at hand. That's that will be my little criticism.
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Yeah, I think for myself in particular, I really don't care about the vaccines, except insofar that
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they really aren't a vaccine, but more of a therapeutic. Because what they were sort of
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billed as at the very beginning, oh, just get this and you will never get coronavirus. And now it's get
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this and maybe you won't end up in the hospital when you actually do get the coronavirus, because
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you're gonna. I really don't care whether or not somebody takes the vaccine, because you know what,
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that's none of my business. I think that's one of the major casualties of the lockdown and the whole
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coronavirus pandemic is nobody minds their own business anymore. Somebody's medical treatment
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should be between them, their doctor, their family, if they so choose. It's got nothing to do
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with me. And it certainly doesn't have anything to do with my bartender. But that's where we are
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these days. And yeah, you are right that there are, you know, people are really focused on the
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conspiracy. And some of those are conspiracy facts around the vaccines, where I'm sort of over here,
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where I want everybody to be left alone. If you want to take the vaccine, take it. If you don't,
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don't. But you shouldn't be punished because you don't.
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Sure. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're spot on. I believe that as well. I believe it's all about
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body autonomy and choice. I think that's that's the main thing. And that's, it's strange that it
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takes the right to really hammer it in to say, look, we fight for this is this is the main thing that we
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we want to focus on individual and civil liberty. And we've been saying it for a long, long time,
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things like freedom of speech, and basic human rights, just as that and now look where we're at.
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So yeah, it's a bit worrying. Yeah, I'm under the same impression. Personally, I think it's pretty out
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there, you can you can find, you know, what my my wholehearted view is, is on it. I personally
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do not want to take it. That's my own personal choice. And I'm quite comfortable and open to
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that. And but at the same time, I wouldn't go around asking people, right? That's very important. You
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know, you don't ask, you don't go around asking people for other for their other health issues.
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So why should this be any different? You know, and there are facts around the vaccination and COVID in
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itself that that really needs to address that I'm sure we can't really speak about right now.
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But we will find the time. So I think it's very important just to be a be an individual and,
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you know, not listen or cower to people that are forcing you to talk about it unnecessarily.
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Well, and there are people who do fully believe in every conspiracy they hear about the vaccine.
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And I'll defend their right to feel that way about it all day long. They can think that it's
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the mark of the beast and I'll defend their right to feel that way, even if I disagree with them,
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depending on the day. But, you know, somebody asked me on Twitter, which is outrageous, by the way,
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that someone would even think that it was appropriate. They asked me how many people at
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Rebel News were vaccinated. And I said, first of all, even though I'm the boss of some of you,
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it's none of my damn business. But if it's none of my business, it's certainly not a stranger random
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on the Internet's business because I don't work for the Canadian government. So I don't care what
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our staff and employees do with their medical treatment. I'm not we don't have a vax pass.
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We're fighting the vaccination passport. And the reason one of the big reasons is because you're
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entitled to your privacy. And again, that's been one of the big casualties that some random guy on
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the Internet thinks that it's his business to ask how many of your staff are vaccinated and thinks that
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I should divulge that we're in 20 months, 22 months. This is where we're at in society. It's
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very strange. Yeah, it is very strange. And how personal as well. It's so weird. I would never
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go on the Internet and start asking people about their their personal. Have you had a vasectomy?
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When was the last time you had a colonoscopy? Like it's nobody's business. It's so gross and weird,
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right? It is so weird. And, you know, I don't I have zero problem if someone if someone wants to take
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the vaccine. People conflate this, though, because they see me now as this anti-vaxxer kind of guy.
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And they see me just just because I believe in individual liberties. That must mean that I agree
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with all the horrible things in society, especially when it comes to free speech.
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Now, I think the problem is it's not the unvaccinated versus the vaccinated. That's that's a media
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sigh. I believe that's just one big operation to try and make people just be divisive against each
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other to bully other people, to coerce people into taking something they might not want. And that's
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none of anyone's damn business, you know. And I think on top of that, the biggest problem that both
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the vaccinated and the unvaccinated should just put aside and come together about is the children.
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I think that's the biggest issue now is children are being coerced and in some areas forced to take
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this vaccine. And it's not only breaking up families. It's just it's sickening, really. You can't expect a
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child to be fully, fully aware and fully know all the facts and figures on this vaccination because we're
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still in trial. This is what people don't understand. We're still in the trial phase still.
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You know, we haven't got the long term data yet. And you want to do that to your child.
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Like, seriously, I mean, I'm not the one to come on and tell you what you should do with your
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the JCVI in in Britain, the Britain's vaccination and immunization body have turned around to the
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government previously and said, do not do this. Do not give this or administer this to children
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because there is more harm than good that will come out of it. And they ignored it and decided to
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plow on ahead anyway. And I think that's extremely wrong. And it's the children we should be looking out
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for. Now, do you have in the UK, excuse me, the concept of a mature minor? So in Canada,
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apparently, well, I know this because I have a 15 year old daughter who's like,
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I need a second piercing in my ear. And I'm like, not till you're 18 and you take yourself
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to the piercing place. So kids in Canada, they can't get a tattoo, they can't vote, they can't get a
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piercing. But they can make a decision outside of their parents knowledge. If a professional
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vaccinator, which, which is so often not a trained medical professional, they're just
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somebody who sticks a needle in your arm and says next. If a child basically convinces
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this person who's obviously pro vaccine, that they are a mature minor, they can get the vaccine.
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And I don't know, do you have that concept in the UK?
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Yes, we do. We have something called the Gillick test. I don't know if you've heard of it. But it's
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it's literally exactly what you said. It's a type of test that the child can take to to show whether
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they are mature enough and competent enough. And that's wrong. I personally think that that's really
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wrong. Because a child, I believe, just still hasn't hasn't got that mental capability to make that
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informed kind of choice. That sort of choice. You know, our brains aren't fully developed until
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I've got a 23 year old son, and that seems right on the money.
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Sorry, if you're 23 year old sons watching and heard that, I'm so sorry. But this is the troubling,
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troubling thing. So if you've got a parent who's very, very pro covid vaccine, not other
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vaccines. I'm not anti polio. Right. I'm not anti hepatitis. I don't know where this came from.
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Suddenly now. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm anti polio. And bearing in mind, I was a flight attendant.
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So you had to be jabbed up to the eyeballs to be in that job. So I know about my jab.
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So don't you worry, guys. But in terms of the covid vaccination, that's still on trial.
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And I'm going to keep saying it. It's still on trial.
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Children are vulnerable now and they can develop some really, really nasty health conditions from
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it. So I think it's the parents responsibility to wait.
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I believe I'm not going to tell you what to do, but this is my own recommendation from what I've seen
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from what I've heard to wait and make them have their informed decision when they're at a certain
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age. Well, and we're all of a sudden as a society pretending like cardiac events in otherwise healthy
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minors and young people is completely normal. You see commercials now that are like, oh, you know,
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this is what happens when a young person has a cardiac event. And I'm like, I've never heard of that,
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except for kids who are born with congenital issues, not kids that just suddenly manifest them
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on the soccer field or the rugby pitch. And they're trying to normalize it to the point where there's
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I think doctors and like public health officials, they're struggling to find other excuses for these
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problems that are manifesting. For example, I saw the other day a study that says in youngish men,
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I think that age range was under 40. So being over 40, that's kind of young. So it's, you know,
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maybe the sudden instance of cardiac events is related to cannabis and the recent legalization
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of cannabis in Canada. And so they're like, oh, they legalize cannabis here. And a couple years later,
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everybody's having a heart attack. All the cannabis consumers that age range, it's probably the
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cannabis and definitely not that medicine that has, you know, cardiac events as a side effect.
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Um, are you seeing some of that in the UK where, um, they're just sort of doing their best,
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like scrambling for any, maybe it's climate change that took it from me. I was going to say it. Yeah.
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It's the climate change one that I've seen. Yeah. Due to climate change, people are having
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cardiocarditis. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Um, there's another one that they've done. You can look
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this up. Um, they're gearing up for over 300,000. They, they put this out. I couldn't believe it.
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Over 300,000 people are expected to have heart problems due to post pandemic stress.
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That's their, uh, so it's stress now that's, that's causing all this inflation. Yeah. This inflation
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of the heart is now, is now because of stress 300,000 they're predicting. So I don't know what,
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what can I say to that? Um, if, if a politician can be paid off, then I'm sure a doctor can as
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well now. Sure. And I think that's one of the problems too, is the doctors are not,
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they're not revealing their connections to big pharma. I think we're seeing a replication
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of what happened with the opioid crisis where big pharma was telling doctors here, give this to
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people. It's perfectly safe. Here's, you know, a little bit of money for being the official opioid
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salesman in your community. And then when all is said and done and communities are leveled by opioids,
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they just sort of wash their hands of it and move along. Yeah. And to add, I think more people
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are dying of, of opioids in America than they are from COVID. So I don't know. And that's a big pharma
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issue in itself. Yeah. And exacerbated by the lockdown, the isolation, the despair, the job loss,
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the, um, you know, constant friction with friends and family and easy money that the government seems
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to just keep giving people every time they throw you out of work. Exactly. Exactly. And we're seeing,
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we're seeing something, um, quite similar here. It's not quite opioid crisis, but it's definitely some
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form of cognitive dissonance over here. Now, speaking of over there, um, I don't want to take
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up too, too much of your time because you have a very busy day doing work for us and fighting for
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freedom. Um, what do you see on the horizon for the UK in 2022? Is it more of the same or are people
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finally going to see maybe, you know, maybe the Omicron sniffles are might, you know, make maybe,
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maybe a lockdown over sniffles might be the wake up call. Like, what do you predict for the UK?
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Oh, okay. Right. Let's, um, let's, let's clip this and see if I'm right. Yeah. Okay. So I believe,
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I believe there will be a revolt come to the local elections. I do believe that I think a lot of
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politicians are going to have, have enough, uh, have had enough, sorry, um, from the conservative
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party because they're not conservative anymore. They're watered down liberals. Um, so a lot of
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them are going to say, don't like the direction. And a lot of them are going to defect. I do believe
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that that's going to happen. So that's one great news. Um, I believe that there, there will be more
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restrictions coming in. Um, I couldn't say for certain what, I believe that it will be some
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form of lockdown or they'll paint it as I don't know, like a circuit breaker lockdown that they've used
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before, or, you know, they tried doing that once where they broke it up into different cities and
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towns that didn't work. So maybe they might try round two on that. Who knows? Um, I believe that
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the great awakening is definitely happening. I believe a lot more people are, are, are coming
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to the movement, if you will. And the movement of anti lockdowns, anti mandates, anti COVID, um,
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passports. I believe that's going to expand, um, to a bigger rate. I think, I think they're going to
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roll out the fourth booster, uh, here in the UK or fourth booster, the fourth shot. I do believe
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that that's going to happen by the end of this year. Uh, I don't think they'll reach five yet. I
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think they'll wait at least a year for that. Um, but I think people are going to start to realize,
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hang on a minute, this feels never ending. We're another six months into, into 2022 and nothing's
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changed. What's, what's keeping this going? What's keeping the circulation going? I think more is going
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to come out as well about PCR testing. I think that's going to happen very early on if the fact
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that it, well, we know now that, um, I think the media are going to start reporting on this soon,
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but we know that PCR tests, um, are showing that it, it can pick up just the common cold and, uh,
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and it's being conflated with, um, COVID-19 in general. So a lot of people are going to be
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questioning is COVID still in some form of circulation somewhere. That's the, that's the big
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thing. I'm not sure if I totally believe that, but you know, there is a case for it. Let's put it
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that way. So a lot of predictions, I think, I think there's some good and there's some bad here.
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I think there are going to be a lot of people across the world who are having the experience
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that Jordan Peterson is currently having where he is saying, I took this stupid vaccine because
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the deal was you would leave me alone. Yeah. And now I'm locked down just as though I were
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unvaccinated. And I guess this is the, um, the true, we're all in this together moment because
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the privileged medical class is all of a sudden not so privileged anymore. I think there's going to be a
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lot of people who are saying I did my part. The government is no longer holding up their
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end of the bargain and there's something bigger going on here. I think there's going to be a lot
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of that. And I think that's going to be a global thing. I agree. Completely agree. And God bless
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John Peterson as well. You know, again, like you said off the top of the show, it's difficult to
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admit you're wrong, but it is to see somebody like Jordan Peterson say I was wrong. It makes
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it okay for a lot of the normies to say it too, and to admit it too. Um, one last thing before I let
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you go, um, in a post COVID world, let's say COVID never existed. What would you be doing for us? What
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would you be focusing on in the UK? That's a good question. That's such a good question. Um,
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I think immigration is a big problem as well. I think over 27,000, um, illegal immigrants came over
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into the UK as of 2021 and, uh, Priti Patel has not done anything about this. Um, so I would be
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focusing on that. Uh, usually I think it would be illegal immigration. Um, I believe men's rights as
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well is a big part. Um, men's mental health is a massive thing as well. Um, it's a huge,
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huge thing. So that would be another, another subject, um, that I'd pursue. Uh, there's lots
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and lots of different things and it might be just, um, it might be just election stuff within the UK,
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but those are the two main focuses, um, that I would do if, if COVID wasn't here and then just
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having a general opinion on, uh, on most things like most commentators do.
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Wow. You know, here's to a post COVID world where we can unleash you into the realm of government
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accountability. Lewis, thanks so much for taking the time to come on the show and answer some of my
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questions and tell us a little bit more about us. And I look very much forward to what you
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accomplish next in the UK. Thank you very much, Sheila. And thank you for having me on. I really,
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I truly think Lewis is the right guy for the job and he came along at the right time and he's got
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the right sort of open mind, a willingness to publicly admit that you got something wrong is
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such a rare quality, but I think it speaks to character. Well, everybody, that's the show for
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tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here in the same time in the same
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place next week. And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.