Rebel News Podcast - June 21, 2023


SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Our latest documentary is finished, and we are taking it on tour


Episode Stats

Length

35 minutes

Words per Minute

165.3183

Word Count

5,817

Sentence Count

332

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Pastors faced an unimaginable trial during the COVID-19 pandemic, their voices silenced by oppressive measures. In the face of adversity, they held on to their beliefs, defending the sacred right to worship. This summer, embark on an unforgettable exploration through Church Under Fire: Canada's War on Christianity, a documentary that will inspire and challenge your perceptions.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 A brand new documentary is finished and we're ready to show the world.
00:00:03.160 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:00:05.360 The Gunn Show
00:00:35.360 was engulfed in fear.
00:00:36.580 COVID-19, which is causing all of the concern right now.
00:00:39.780 Pastors faced an unimaginable trial.
00:00:42.820 They were wrongfully persecuted during the COVID-19 pandemic,
00:00:46.720 their voices silenced by oppressive measures.
00:00:49.560 And we realized something doesn't match up.
00:00:53.400 There's an agenda under the surface here.
00:00:55.520 I cannot abide under their wishes.
00:01:00.040 I cannot just abide this new norm, if you will.
00:01:03.660 In the face of adversity, they held on to their beliefs,
00:01:07.080 defending the sacred right to worship.
00:01:09.080 Out of this property, you Nazis!
00:01:11.800 Out!
00:01:12.520 Join us on an extraordinary voyage across Canada
00:01:15.300 as we shine a light on the untold stories of these pastors
00:01:19.060 who were wrongfully persecuted during COVID-19,
00:01:22.800 witness their courage, their unwavering faith,
00:01:25.620 and their determination to reclaim their voices in the face of adversity.
00:01:29.280 I'm not going to let those who are in Ottawa determine my peace, my joy.
00:01:34.700 You're disobedient to the government or disobedient to God,
00:01:37.340 and take your pick.
00:01:40.840 This summer, embark on an unforgettable exploration
00:01:44.100 through Church Under Fire,
00:01:46.100 Canada's War on Christianity,
00:01:48.320 a documentary that will inspire and challenge your perceptions.
00:01:52.180 Experience their remarkable stories,
00:01:54.280 a testament to the indomitable human spirit and the power of faith.
00:01:58.320 That's the trailer for our brand new documentary,
00:02:23.060 Church Under Fire, Canada's War on Christianity.
00:02:25.280 You can get details and showtimes at savethechristians.com.
00:02:31.880 But I wanted to have my filmmaking partner on that project,
00:02:37.460 our head of documentaries, Kian Simone, on the show with me today
00:02:40.540 to talk about, you know, the finishing touches
00:02:43.100 that we've put on the documentary
00:02:44.640 and how we're trying our best to bring it to a town near you.
00:02:50.560 So joining me now in an interview,
00:02:51.900 well, we just finished recording,
00:02:53.900 is my friend and colleague
00:02:56.520 and documentary partner, Kian Simone.
00:03:01.120 Take a listen.
00:03:09.420 So joining me now is my friend and colleague,
00:03:12.340 chief documentary filmmaker here at Revel News,
00:03:14.460 and my frequent travel partner,
00:03:16.360 Kian Simone,
00:03:17.160 to discuss the finishing touches
00:03:20.420 he's put on our brand new documentary
00:03:22.380 and the launch.
00:03:24.120 So we're taking it on the road
00:03:25.380 and we want everybody out there to join us.
00:03:28.300 Kian, thanks for coming on the show.
00:03:30.340 You recently wrapped up our documentary.
00:03:34.400 Tell us a little bit about,
00:03:35.560 I guess for people who are just finding out
00:03:37.860 about the documentary,
00:03:38.680 and I don't know how you could just be finding out
00:03:40.380 about the documentary,
00:03:41.440 but let's go back a step
00:03:42.640 and tell people about our brand new documentary.
00:03:46.460 Well, thank you for having me on, first off.
00:03:48.980 Second, yeah,
00:03:49.680 so we just wrapped up Church Under Fire,
00:03:51.860 Canada's War on Christianity,
00:03:53.740 which is about,
00:03:55.620 well, I'd like to say it's about
00:03:57.280 the persecution Christians faced
00:03:59.380 during COVID-19,
00:04:02.240 from congregations to the pastors
00:04:04.580 to just the church itself.
00:04:05.880 But really,
00:04:07.320 it's like a 10-year,
00:04:10.260 eight-year
00:04:10.920 comeback to
00:04:13.400 how it started
00:04:15.040 and how it evolved
00:04:16.640 and what it looked like
00:04:18.240 and what it looked like during COVID.
00:04:20.960 And yeah,
00:04:22.080 we really touch on
00:04:23.260 almost everything,
00:04:24.760 almost everything we can.
00:04:26.680 Yeah.
00:04:27.600 Everything we could fit into an hour and a half.
00:04:29.920 That was the thing,
00:04:31.140 is like,
00:04:31.420 how do you fit
00:04:32.400 a decade-long
00:04:34.140 creeping attack
00:04:36.620 on Christian churches?
00:04:39.980 How do you fit that into 90 minutes?
00:04:42.940 But I think we did a pretty good job.
00:04:45.720 And part of,
00:04:47.300 I think,
00:04:47.700 the documentary was
00:04:48.720 pointing out that
00:04:50.120 this didn't just happen
00:04:52.060 in a bubble
00:04:52.740 or in a vacuum.
00:04:54.240 That it started
00:04:55.180 sort of when Justin Trudeau took power.
00:04:57.360 And it was all these little
00:04:58.840 picky things
00:05:00.140 at,
00:05:01.340 you know,
00:05:02.220 fringing on people's
00:05:03.320 religious freedoms
00:05:04.100 to get to where we are
00:05:06.660 chaining up churches
00:05:08.040 and throwing pastors in jail.
00:05:09.540 It didn't just happen overnight.
00:05:11.180 It was a slow burn
00:05:13.000 that I think
00:05:14.180 a lot of Canadians
00:05:15.020 didn't pay attention to.
00:05:16.940 Yeah.
00:05:17.400 When I was
00:05:17.880 editing our intro
00:05:19.100 and we kind of touch on,
00:05:20.660 when you touch on exactly that,
00:05:22.580 I was looking for some China B-roll.
00:05:25.120 B-roll,
00:05:25.840 for what people don't know,
00:05:26.840 it's just kind of the footage
00:05:27.680 you put over top
00:05:28.460 of someone else talking.
00:05:29.280 And I saw these news clips
00:05:32.060 from like 20 years,
00:05:33.120 not even 20 years,
00:05:33.960 like 15 years ago,
00:05:35.180 10 years ago,
00:05:35.800 of police shutting down churches.
00:05:38.260 And you hear the Chinese translator
00:05:40.060 saying,
00:05:40.900 yeah,
00:05:41.760 church is not essential.
00:05:43.420 And your church is now closed.
00:05:45.260 Like you cannot go to church anymore
00:05:46.860 because
00:05:47.380 X,
00:05:48.540 Y,
00:05:48.700 and Z.
00:05:49.020 And it was like the exact same wording
00:05:51.040 that politicians in Canada used.
00:05:53.660 And that was like,
00:05:55.160 I mean,
00:05:55.440 I was already kind of,
00:05:56.540 what do the kids say now,
00:05:57.680 red-billed about the whole thing.
00:05:59.900 But just hearing that again,
00:06:01.420 while being at like the end
00:06:02.960 of the step of the documentary,
00:06:04.160 I was like,
00:06:04.600 oh,
00:06:04.740 wow,
00:06:04.980 this is like,
00:06:06.060 this is real.
00:06:08.040 Yeah.
00:06:08.440 And that's what it was like for me too,
00:06:10.240 because just before COVID lockdowns
00:06:13.440 hit the churches,
00:06:14.240 because COVID never actually hit the churches,
00:06:16.560 COVID lockdowns hit the churches.
00:06:17.900 Just before then,
00:06:19.440 in late 2019,
00:06:21.080 I had just come back from Northern Iraq.
00:06:25.000 And for me,
00:06:26.220 that sort of weaponized my heart
00:06:28.840 against persecution of,
00:06:31.980 not just Christians,
00:06:33.480 but the religious people of faith,
00:06:36.760 because I had seen the end stages of a genocide.
00:06:42.180 And again,
00:06:43.040 it didn't just get there.
00:06:44.060 It started with these little nitpicky rules
00:06:46.040 where you all,
00:06:48.660 after,
00:06:49.880 you know,
00:06:50.200 a decade or so,
00:06:51.440 you end up with ISIS using your church steeple
00:06:54.880 as a sniper's nest.
00:06:56.660 That doesn't just happen overnight.
00:07:00.020 But for me-
00:07:00.420 Or in Ottawa as a weed store.
00:07:02.660 Or as a weed store.
00:07:03.000 Which is what we saw.
00:07:04.000 Yeah,
00:07:04.320 we recently just go back from Ottawa
00:07:06.520 and we're like,
00:07:07.040 is that a church?
00:07:07.760 No,
00:07:07.880 that's a weed store.
00:07:10.660 But,
00:07:11.280 you know,
00:07:12.420 and for me too,
00:07:14.400 like the faith of the Christians
00:07:15.980 to not just survive the genocide in northern Iraq,
00:07:19.560 but insist on remaining,
00:07:21.480 to not buckle,
00:07:22.840 to know that,
00:07:23.860 you know,
00:07:24.200 there will be the next genocide
00:07:26.060 and the next genocide
00:07:27.000 and the next genocide,
00:07:28.000 because there always is there.
00:07:29.780 But they won't leave.
00:07:30.900 They must stay.
00:07:32.360 That sort of hardened my heart
00:07:35.420 and left me with a certain,
00:07:40.000 I don't want to say disgust,
00:07:41.620 but maybe that is the right word,
00:07:43.600 disdain for Christians here
00:07:45.700 who,
00:07:46.600 we've got a pretty good here.
00:07:47.880 And so many churches
00:07:51.240 were scared of Teresa Tam
00:07:52.840 or Dina Hinshaw
00:07:54.240 or Jason Kenney
00:07:55.420 or Bonnie Henry.
00:07:56.620 And I had just come freshly back
00:07:58.040 from people who had survived ISIS
00:07:59.680 and the Christians here
00:08:01.780 were scared of Dina Hinshaw.
00:08:04.420 And I would,
00:08:05.980 I tried not to have that bleed
00:08:08.660 into the documentary,
00:08:09.760 but it might have just a little bit.
00:08:12.340 Well,
00:08:12.500 I mean,
00:08:12.840 it has to,
00:08:14.360 right?
00:08:14.560 Like you said in the documentary
00:08:16.280 and like you just said before,
00:08:17.220 it is that slow burn.
00:08:18.900 It's that,
00:08:20.020 what's that other analogy?
00:08:21.040 It's the frog in the hot,
00:08:23.020 the hot water.
00:08:24.920 Yeah,
00:08:25.280 it really is.
00:08:26.640 And it's not a overblown statement
00:08:28.500 at all.
00:08:30.100 And like,
00:08:30.820 like I'm not even Christian
00:08:32.400 and I see it so full.
00:08:34.420 Like I see it so clearly.
00:08:36.440 It's,
00:08:37.140 I think other people will see it too
00:08:39.000 when they watch the documentary.
00:08:40.420 You know,
00:08:40.960 you just made a really good point
00:08:42.300 that you're not even Christian.
00:08:43.900 I'm not even the same denomination
00:08:45.760 as any of this,
00:08:47.760 these pastors.
00:08:48.940 I think that's important point to make
00:08:50.420 is that,
00:08:51.220 um,
00:08:51.920 for people who are not religious,
00:08:53.700 um,
00:08:54.440 there's something in this for you
00:08:55.920 because they always come
00:08:57.700 for the churches first.
00:08:58.680 They come for the people
00:08:59.580 who have a loyalty
00:09:01.340 beyond the state
00:09:03.260 and then they get rid
00:09:04.340 of those people.
00:09:05.440 But then they come for you too.
00:09:06.920 Eventually,
00:09:07.280 whatever it is that you are doing
00:09:08.920 that runs afoul of the state,
00:09:10.860 after all the conscientious objectors
00:09:13.000 are gone,
00:09:13.340 they're coming for you too.
00:09:15.300 Um,
00:09:15.520 and so while this is
00:09:17.420 a documentary
00:09:18.580 about people of faith
00:09:20.500 who stood up to the state
00:09:22.200 and paid some pretty severe
00:09:23.920 consequences for it,
00:09:25.040 and,
00:09:27.000 you know,
00:09:27.340 it is framed
00:09:28.400 by my Christian worldview.
00:09:30.020 This is a documentary
00:09:30.860 for anybody
00:09:31.960 who
00:09:33.080 wants to see
00:09:35.100 the history
00:09:36.000 of the tyranny
00:09:36.680 in Canada
00:09:37.200 over the last,
00:09:38.080 well,
00:09:38.400 10 years,
00:09:38.980 but specifically
00:09:39.520 three years
00:09:40.340 that the mainstream media
00:09:42.120 and the politicians
00:09:42.740 want us to forget.
00:09:44.440 That's,
00:09:44.720 and that's exactly
00:09:45.420 how I edited it.
00:09:46.940 Um,
00:09:47.460 it's not about
00:09:48.380 Christian pastors
00:09:49.340 who stood up.
00:09:50.020 It's about people
00:09:50.600 who stood up for you.
00:09:52.340 And you can watch it
00:09:53.980 as a Christian
00:09:54.460 and be horrified
00:09:55.540 by what happened
00:09:56.080 to their church
00:09:56.680 and,
00:09:57.020 or you can watch it
00:09:57.600 as someone like me
00:09:59.260 who could see that
00:09:59.940 and be like,
00:10:00.420 oh,
00:10:00.580 you know,
00:10:00.780 that's,
00:10:01.160 uh,
00:10:01.400 that's really bad,
00:10:02.460 but it's not
00:10:03.060 the worst thing ever.
00:10:03.900 And,
00:10:04.260 and,
00:10:04.760 but you can still see
00:10:05.640 how it's like awful.
00:10:07.540 And you see like
00:10:08.460 these people
00:10:08.960 are standing up
00:10:09.920 for people
00:10:10.340 who are atheists.
00:10:11.160 They're people,
00:10:11.680 they're standing up
00:10:12.340 for Muslims,
00:10:13.420 they're standing up
00:10:13.980 for the Jewish,
00:10:14.600 they're standing up
00:10:15.080 for everybody.
00:10:16.360 Um,
00:10:16.640 and that's kind of
00:10:17.240 what the thing
00:10:17.720 that I wanted to portray
00:10:18.680 of,
00:10:19.540 of,
00:10:20.260 you know,
00:10:20.800 how I edited
00:10:21.780 what they're saying
00:10:22.480 and how they say it.
00:10:23.560 And it's,
00:10:24.600 uh,
00:10:24.940 it works.
00:10:26.580 Yeah.
00:10:27.020 And one of the things
00:10:28.040 that I did
00:10:28.740 when I was asking
00:10:29.440 questions of the pastors
00:10:30.700 and thank you
00:10:31.280 for letting me do that
00:10:32.200 because this is your,
00:10:33.060 like,
00:10:33.480 this is your artistic
00:10:34.580 vision baby.
00:10:36.000 But one thing
00:10:37.000 I asked the pastors,
00:10:38.480 I tried to ask them
00:10:39.260 the same,
00:10:39.780 you know,
00:10:40.060 eight or ten questions
00:10:41.340 because I wanted
00:10:43.740 to point out
00:10:44.560 that they would
00:10:45.460 likely give
00:10:46.360 many different answers.
00:10:48.180 Ultimately,
00:10:48.800 they gave a lot
00:10:49.500 of the same answers.
00:10:51.060 Um,
00:10:51.480 but I wanted to point out
00:10:52.260 Which was also weird.
00:10:53.440 Like it was not
00:10:54.240 weird in a good way.
00:10:55.540 Yeah,
00:10:55.800 it was weird
00:10:56.240 in a good way.
00:10:57.020 But I wanted to point out
00:10:58.280 that they were all
00:10:59.360 different.
00:11:00.020 They were all
00:11:00.440 different denominations,
00:11:01.680 very different styles,
00:11:03.600 all of them.
00:11:04.900 Um,
00:11:05.200 different,
00:11:07.180 different,
00:11:07.860 you know,
00:11:08.260 belief systems sometimes.
00:11:10.560 Um,
00:11:11.780 but none of that
00:11:13.180 mattered when it
00:11:14.240 came to the state.
00:11:15.020 And that was a lot
00:11:15.680 of the criticisms
00:11:16.460 you saw of some
00:11:17.800 of the pastors.
00:11:18.380 They would say,
00:11:19.060 well,
00:11:19.360 Pastor Art,
00:11:19.960 he's too fiery
00:11:21.460 and maybe
00:11:22.720 Pastor Hildebrandt,
00:11:24.360 he's just a little
00:11:25.520 different.
00:11:26.100 He's different to look at.
00:11:27.260 He talks a little
00:11:28.000 different.
00:11:28.780 Those people might
00:11:29.600 be a little bit weird,
00:11:30.680 you know,
00:11:31.260 on the outside looking in.
00:11:32.280 I don't think that
00:11:33.100 I think they're the nicest
00:11:34.140 people you'll ever meet.
00:11:35.580 But those are the
00:11:36.520 criticisms or,
00:11:37.620 you know,
00:11:37.820 maybe,
00:11:38.420 you know,
00:11:39.120 Pastor Phil,
00:11:40.420 uh,
00:11:40.780 Hutchins,
00:11:41.780 you know,
00:11:42.700 he's,
00:11:44.000 you know,
00:11:44.300 he's,
00:11:44.580 he's just strange.
00:11:46.140 Um,
00:11:47.720 it didn't matter
00:11:48.440 because they were all
00:11:49.220 really different,
00:11:50.060 you know,
00:11:50.300 and we saw that here
00:11:51.160 in Alberta with,
00:11:51.960 uh,
00:11:52.480 Pastor James Coates
00:11:53.340 and Tim Stevens,
00:11:54.560 like the nicest,
00:11:55.940 calmest,
00:11:56.460 kindest,
00:11:57.160 bookish guys
00:11:58.240 you'll ever meet.
00:11:59.260 They were being locked
00:12:00.640 up the same way
00:12:01.380 the firebrand pastors
00:12:02.700 were.
00:12:03.640 And,
00:12:03.840 um,
00:12:04.240 I really wanted to
00:12:05.380 frame my questions
00:12:07.240 to point that out.
00:12:08.800 And I think it comes
00:12:09.420 across in your editing,
00:12:10.340 uh,
00:12:10.940 in talking to the men,
00:12:11.960 different demeanors,
00:12:13.200 different styles,
00:12:14.100 but they gave a lot
00:12:15.840 of the same answers
00:12:16.920 when it came down
00:12:17.780 to being,
00:12:18.840 um,
00:12:20.780 obedient to God
00:12:21.860 above the state.
00:12:22.700 That was really the one
00:12:23.500 theme that went
00:12:24.140 through everything.
00:12:25.500 It's,
00:12:26.180 it was interesting
00:12:26.980 to go back
00:12:27.760 and look at,
00:12:28.340 like,
00:12:28.440 someone like
00:12:29.120 Pastor Art Pawlowski,
00:12:30.760 but the way that
00:12:31.320 it kind of,
00:12:31.860 it evolved for him
00:12:33.060 was,
00:12:33.800 it didn't start off
00:12:34.720 with,
00:12:34.880 like,
00:12:35.520 uh,
00:12:35.800 ripping the mask up.
00:12:36.800 It didn't start
00:12:37.460 with,
00:12:37.760 um,
00:12:38.560 just like the,
00:12:39.360 the metaphorical
00:12:40.660 middle finger
00:12:41.120 to the government.
00:12:41.720 It was like,
00:12:42.360 no,
00:12:42.560 I'm just trying
00:12:42.940 to feed the homeless.
00:12:44.580 That's literally
00:12:45.200 all I'm trying to do.
00:12:46.760 Um,
00:12:47.200 and then it just
00:12:47.820 evolved into them
00:12:48.580 and kept pushing
00:12:49.140 on that.
00:12:49.760 And then you go
00:12:50.380 over to Pastor Tobias
00:12:51.520 who kept his church
00:12:53.420 home for,
00:12:54.240 I think it was
00:12:54.720 like a month.
00:12:55.720 And then,
00:12:56.740 like,
00:12:57.000 they were just like,
00:12:57.540 what,
00:12:57.680 like,
00:12:58.220 and then they
00:12:58.620 didn't,
00:12:59.040 obviously didn't
00:12:59.820 see the people
00:13:00.840 dropping dead
00:13:01.360 or whatever
00:13:01.800 from COVID.
00:13:02.840 So they're like,
00:13:03.380 okay,
00:13:03.540 let's like go back
00:13:04.620 into church slowly.
00:13:06.360 Like,
00:13:06.760 we need to gather.
00:13:07.640 People aren't
00:13:08.840 gathering enough.
00:13:09.780 We need to come
00:13:10.460 together and this
00:13:11.300 is the time
00:13:11.720 that we need
00:13:12.020 to be together.
00:13:12.600 And then his dad
00:13:14.020 passed away.
00:13:14.880 So they had a funeral
00:13:15.780 for his father.
00:13:17.220 And that was
00:13:17.820 when the RCMP
00:13:18.460 first showed up.
00:13:19.620 And like,
00:13:20.080 you can kind of
00:13:20.620 see how that would,
00:13:22.060 I don't want to say
00:13:22.720 radicalize somebody,
00:13:23.860 but like,
00:13:24.660 yeah,
00:13:25.800 radicalize somebody
00:13:26.860 into,
00:13:27.300 into like,
00:13:28.120 into a good,
00:13:29.060 um,
00:13:30.280 weight,
00:13:30.620 into a good
00:13:31.260 frame of mind
00:13:32.120 to actually stand
00:13:33.080 up to something
00:13:33.680 that is wrong.
00:13:34.760 And you can see
00:13:35.540 that none of them
00:13:36.220 did anything terrible.
00:13:37.980 All they did
00:13:38.420 was exactly what
00:13:39.480 their faith calls
00:13:40.440 them to do,
00:13:41.500 which is just
00:13:42.740 church.
00:13:44.540 Yeah.
00:13:44.840 I mean,
00:13:45.220 to use a,
00:13:46.300 some biblical framing,
00:13:47.600 the scales fell
00:13:48.440 away from his eyes
00:13:49.620 when the RCMP
00:13:51.220 showed up at his
00:13:52.120 dad's funeral
00:13:52.820 outdoors.
00:13:54.180 Um,
00:13:54.780 and I would lose
00:13:55.640 my mind.
00:13:56.580 I would too.
00:13:58.040 I would too.
00:13:59.480 Um,
00:13:59.900 there were points
00:14:00.480 at which,
00:14:00.940 uh,
00:14:01.240 during my mother's
00:14:02.020 funeral,
00:14:02.280 I thought I could
00:14:03.060 just do something
00:14:03.680 right now in the
00:14:04.360 RCMP could come.
00:14:05.720 I guess like I had,
00:14:06.700 I had those
00:14:07.500 intrusive thoughts.
00:14:08.780 Um,
00:14:09.500 but,
00:14:10.880 um,
00:14:11.120 you know,
00:14:11.580 you see this also
00:14:12.220 with Pastor Tracy
00:14:13.100 and Rodney,
00:14:14.000 where they did
00:14:14.520 their best
00:14:15.200 to follow the rules
00:14:17.140 until such time
00:14:18.160 as the rules
00:14:18.820 made absolutely
00:14:20.260 no sense.
00:14:21.260 And they did
00:14:22.180 their best
00:14:22.740 to go along
00:14:23.880 with the government
00:14:24.680 while still keeping
00:14:26.220 up those guardrails.
00:14:27.260 Like,
00:14:27.920 yes,
00:14:28.140 you can definitely
00:14:28.760 come and inspect
00:14:29.580 our church,
00:14:30.140 just not while
00:14:31.160 Pastor Rodney
00:14:32.320 is on the pulpit
00:14:33.280 and people are
00:14:34.080 praying and you
00:14:34.760 can't run around
00:14:35.500 like maniacs
00:14:36.460 in the room
00:14:36.960 where the little
00:14:37.420 children are.
00:14:38.300 They were doing
00:14:39.100 their best
00:14:39.860 to comply
00:14:40.340 with the government.
00:14:41.460 The government
00:14:42.140 was not doing
00:14:43.140 the best
00:14:43.980 that the government
00:14:44.740 could do
00:14:45.240 to respect
00:14:45.920 their religious
00:14:46.380 freedoms.
00:14:47.220 I can,
00:14:47.980 uh,
00:14:48.280 share something
00:14:48.860 on that actually
00:14:49.460 too.
00:14:49.920 I was,
00:14:50.380 uh,
00:14:51.020 I was in
00:14:51.760 back and forth
00:14:52.380 with Tracy
00:14:52.960 about,
00:14:53.500 um,
00:14:53.940 just sending me
00:14:54.660 videos of what
00:14:55.340 was happening
00:14:55.940 like at the time
00:14:56.940 just so I can
00:14:58.020 put it over top
00:14:58.900 of when you guys
00:14:59.660 are talking
00:15:00.120 and cut up the
00:15:00.820 clips and stuff
00:15:01.320 like that.
00:15:02.640 And I had this
00:15:03.460 really long,
00:15:04.200 like,
00:15:05.380 I don't know,
00:15:05.920 it was like an
00:15:06.340 eight minute
00:15:06.900 weirdly chopped
00:15:08.260 up clip
00:15:09.140 and it was like
00:15:10.280 from a cell phone
00:15:10.940 like vertical
00:15:11.460 and I was like,
00:15:12.140 oh,
00:15:12.360 Tracy,
00:15:12.820 come on.
00:15:13.680 So,
00:15:13.920 I was like going
00:15:14.360 through it
00:15:14.880 and then,
00:15:15.740 um,
00:15:16.180 I realized that
00:15:16.900 it wasn't
00:15:17.860 Tracy's cell phone
00:15:19.480 footage and I was
00:15:20.400 like,
00:15:20.580 who shot this?
00:15:21.500 And I was like,
00:15:21.920 it's not a
00:15:22.480 congregation,
00:15:22.980 it's not like
00:15:24.220 a protester or
00:15:25.100 it's,
00:15:26.060 this is the health
00:15:27.460 inspector's phone
00:15:28.380 footage.
00:15:28.840 one in my
00:15:30.480 head,
00:15:30.640 I was like,
00:15:30.920 how the hell
00:15:31.240 do I have
00:15:31.620 that?
00:15:31.860 But two,
00:15:33.100 like,
00:15:33.300 how does,
00:15:33.680 how the heck
00:15:34.160 did she have
00:15:34.740 that?
00:15:35.500 Um,
00:15:35.880 two,
00:15:36.240 I was watching
00:15:36.820 through it
00:15:37.340 and it is
00:15:38.400 literally the
00:15:39.380 footage from
00:15:39.920 the health
00:15:40.220 inspector knocking
00:15:41.180 on the church
00:15:41.700 like you can
00:15:42.080 see the phone
00:15:42.680 in the hand
00:15:43.200 and then you
00:15:44.220 see Tracy
00:15:44.660 come out
00:15:45.180 and she's
00:15:45.580 like holding
00:15:46.060 it up as
00:15:46.700 if it's like
00:15:47.160 some,
00:15:47.760 you know,
00:15:48.000 I mean,
00:15:48.260 I guess recording
00:15:49.320 does protect
00:15:49.900 you so you
00:15:50.920 can see why
00:15:51.740 she did that.
00:15:53.340 And then,
00:15:53.700 um,
00:15:55.120 Tracy's like,
00:15:55.640 no,
00:15:55.780 you can't come
00:15:56.260 in right now.
00:15:56.860 Um,
00:15:57.740 like she was
00:15:58.280 in,
00:15:58.520 uh,
00:15:58.740 the health
00:15:59.500 inspector was
00:15:59.920 like 40
00:16:00.360 minutes early
00:16:00.960 when they
00:16:01.880 started at
00:16:02.200 nine,
00:16:02.420 she came
00:16:02.660 at 820
00:16:03.180 and then Tracy's
00:16:04.460 like,
00:16:04.640 no,
00:16:04.800 we actually
00:16:05.100 do start
00:16:05.680 at eight.
00:16:06.180 Like when
00:16:06.600 people start
00:16:07.080 to show up
00:16:07.580 is when we
00:16:08.000 start,
00:16:08.360 um,
00:16:09.140 you know,
00:16:09.720 talking and
00:16:10.480 praying and
00:16:11.280 stuff like
00:16:11.560 that.
00:16:12.340 And so the
00:16:12.980 health inspector
00:16:13.460 is like,
00:16:14.120 okay,
00:16:14.440 next week
00:16:14.900 I'll come
00:16:15.200 at 7am
00:16:15.840 and Tracy
00:16:16.860 just laughs
00:16:17.500 and she's
00:16:18.700 like,
00:16:19.200 you don't
00:16:20.000 know,
00:16:21.060 you don't
00:16:21.740 have to
00:16:22.100 come.
00:16:23.400 And,
00:16:23.540 uh,
00:16:24.140 and then she's
00:16:24.680 like,
00:16:24.840 well,
00:16:24.960 I'll just
00:16:25.240 stand in
00:16:25.640 the back
00:16:26.140 and I'll
00:16:26.860 just take
00:16:27.220 my pictures
00:16:27.680 and I'll
00:16:28.080 do my
00:16:28.700 things.
00:16:29.300 And she's
00:16:29.580 like,
00:16:29.740 no,
00:16:29.960 you won't.
00:16:31.120 Like,
00:16:31.360 you're not
00:16:31.880 going to
00:16:32.760 do that.
00:16:33.500 And then
00:16:33.880 the health
00:16:34.660 inspector is
00:16:35.200 like,
00:16:36.040 so someone
00:16:36.500 showed up
00:16:36.900 late in
00:16:37.300 the video.
00:16:38.420 They're
00:16:38.820 walking in
00:16:39.340 without a
00:16:39.740 mask.
00:16:40.280 And she
00:16:40.800 like calls
00:16:41.200 that out.
00:16:41.660 She's like,
00:16:42.140 aren't they
00:16:42.700 interrupting
00:16:43.440 your service
00:16:43.960 because they're
00:16:44.300 showing up
00:16:44.740 late?
00:16:45.540 And Tracy's
00:16:45.960 like,
00:16:46.320 no,
00:16:46.720 they're part
00:16:47.860 of the
00:16:48.080 church.
00:16:48.380 They can
00:16:48.600 come in
00:16:48.940 whatever time
00:16:49.540 they want.
00:16:50.720 And then the
00:16:51.020 health inspector,
00:16:54.960 doesn't happen
00:16:55.340 at my
00:16:55.640 church.
00:16:55.920 My
00:16:56.060 church
00:16:56.300 wouldn't
00:16:56.480 have a
00:16:56.720 problem
00:16:56.920 with this
00:16:57.340 and then
00:16:57.700 walks away.
00:16:58.560 And then
00:16:58.840 the video
00:16:59.240 ends.
00:17:00.880 It was
00:17:01.500 literally,
00:17:02.260 as a
00:17:02.680 filmmaker
00:17:02.980 and as
00:17:03.560 an editor,
00:17:04.120 it is
00:17:04.760 gold
00:17:05.660 footage.
00:17:07.040 Like,
00:17:07.180 it's likely
00:17:07.780 my favorite
00:17:08.520 part of the
00:17:08.920 documentary.
00:17:09.820 And it's
00:17:10.140 just such a
00:17:10.520 small part
00:17:11.080 of having
00:17:12.260 that footage
00:17:12.800 from the
00:17:13.140 health
00:17:13.300 inspector.
00:17:14.340 I don't
00:17:14.620 know.
00:17:14.900 It's just
00:17:15.220 so cool.
00:17:16.660 Yeah.
00:17:17.020 The health
00:17:17.700 inspector,
00:17:18.360 I was in
00:17:18.840 court and
00:17:19.640 she testified
00:17:20.320 something very
00:17:21.800 similar.
00:17:22.520 She said,
00:17:23.000 well,
00:17:23.160 my church
00:17:23.800 complied.
00:17:24.400 Great.
00:17:25.660 That's why
00:17:26.300 you're that
00:17:26.980 denomination.
00:17:28.140 And that's
00:17:28.400 why Tracy
00:17:28.860 is her
00:17:29.340 denomination.
00:17:30.120 That's the
00:17:30.480 beauty of
00:17:30.980 Christianity.
00:17:31.960 If this
00:17:32.380 one doesn't
00:17:32.780 fit you,
00:17:33.220 you can
00:17:33.500 go to
00:17:33.860 the next
00:17:34.560 one.
00:17:35.420 And we
00:17:35.680 don't all
00:17:36.200 have to
00:17:36.560 believe the
00:17:37.060 same as
00:17:37.920 the health
00:17:38.260 inspector who
00:17:39.220 fancies herself
00:17:39.960 to be some
00:17:40.380 sort of
00:17:40.700 theologian,
00:17:41.600 I suppose.
00:17:43.760 And it was
00:17:44.740 funny to see
00:17:45.500 that sort of
00:17:46.280 attitude brought
00:17:47.200 into court.
00:17:47.900 It was
00:17:48.100 something that
00:17:48.560 you saw
00:17:48.860 happening
00:17:49.280 online.
00:17:49.880 People
00:17:50.080 saying,
00:17:50.640 well,
00:17:50.800 why can't
00:17:51.440 they just
00:17:51.920 comply?
00:17:53.340 You know who
00:17:53.660 I bet she's
00:17:54.060 related to?
00:17:55.240 I think she's
00:17:56.080 related to the
00:17:56.660 cop that
00:17:57.120 arrested Tim
00:17:57.700 Stevens outside
00:17:58.400 his house
00:17:58.840 where he's
00:17:59.200 like,
00:17:59.900 give you
00:18:00.260 Bible quotes
00:18:00.860 to him,
00:18:01.460 render unto
00:18:02.740 what is
00:18:03.060 Caesar's,
00:18:03.440 what is
00:18:03.640 Caesar's.
00:18:04.580 And Tim's
00:18:05.240 like,
00:18:05.580 what the heck
00:18:06.020 are you talking
00:18:06.480 about?
00:18:06.900 Yeah,
00:18:07.940 it's funny how
00:18:09.400 he didn't
00:18:10.060 quote the
00:18:10.800 second part
00:18:11.600 of that
00:18:11.960 quote.
00:18:12.480 And to
00:18:13.060 God,
00:18:13.420 what is
00:18:13.640 God's.
00:18:14.160 Exactly.
00:18:14.820 So it's
00:18:15.080 actually
00:18:15.360 restraining
00:18:15.940 order against
00:18:16.540 Caesar.
00:18:17.120 Like,
00:18:17.380 that's
00:18:17.720 yours.
00:18:18.200 The church
00:18:18.620 is not
00:18:19.220 yours.
00:18:21.060 But people
00:18:21.520 who are
00:18:21.880 unfamiliar
00:18:22.340 with the
00:18:22.920 Bible will
00:18:23.900 use it to
00:18:24.340 their own
00:18:24.640 devices,
00:18:25.080 as we saw
00:18:25.680 over and
00:18:26.180 over and
00:18:26.580 over again
00:18:27.080 during
00:18:27.380 COVID.
00:18:28.720 But the
00:18:29.140 reason I
00:18:29.420 wanted to
00:18:29.700 have you
00:18:30.000 on the
00:18:30.540 show,
00:18:30.920 now that
00:18:31.180 we've
00:18:31.380 had our
00:18:31.780 little
00:18:32.020 chat,
00:18:32.240 is that
00:18:33.580 the
00:18:33.960 documentary
00:18:34.360 is
00:18:34.620 completely
00:18:35.260 finished.
00:18:36.020 It's
00:18:36.420 gorgeous.
00:18:37.300 I think
00:18:37.540 it's one
00:18:37.800 of the
00:18:37.960 greatest
00:18:38.160 things we've
00:18:38.640 ever done.
00:18:39.060 I'm so
00:18:39.300 proud of
00:18:39.760 it.
00:18:40.360 And not
00:18:40.920 just because
00:18:41.340 I'm very
00:18:41.680 passionate on
00:18:42.280 this issue,
00:18:42.820 but I
00:18:43.100 think it
00:18:43.500 is cinematic
00:18:44.320 and beautiful
00:18:45.300 and you
00:18:47.520 took such
00:18:47.980 care and
00:18:49.160 skill in
00:18:49.860 telling the
00:18:50.380 stories of
00:18:50.980 the pastors.
00:18:51.600 And I
00:18:51.740 think it
00:18:51.940 is important
00:18:52.860 work because
00:18:54.040 the other
00:18:55.860 side of
00:18:56.300 this is
00:18:57.140 all of a
00:18:57.620 sudden saying
00:18:58.080 we want
00:18:58.500 an amnesty
00:18:59.240 for what
00:19:00.220 we've done.
00:19:01.460 Maybe you
00:19:02.160 do.
00:19:02.500 Maybe you
00:19:02.900 want that.
00:19:03.500 Maybe you
00:19:03.900 might even
00:19:04.420 get that.
00:19:04.920 Maybe I
00:19:05.320 might even
00:19:05.720 be a good
00:19:06.160 Christian and
00:19:06.680 forget it.
00:19:07.700 But you
00:19:08.020 also need to
00:19:08.800 live with
00:19:09.360 what you've
00:19:09.760 done.
00:19:10.000 You need to
00:19:10.400 see what
00:19:11.660 you've done
00:19:12.320 to these
00:19:12.960 people before
00:19:13.760 I can
00:19:14.300 forgive you
00:19:14.900 for it.
00:19:16.900 And I
00:19:17.300 think that
00:19:17.660 is why
00:19:18.440 this documentary
00:19:20.140 is so
00:19:20.720 important.
00:19:22.040 But it's
00:19:22.860 completely done
00:19:23.460 and we're
00:19:23.800 taking it
00:19:24.180 on a tour,
00:19:25.260 which is
00:19:25.620 something we've
00:19:26.460 never done
00:19:26.780 before.
00:19:27.140 I'm very
00:19:27.400 excited.
00:19:29.700 Yeah,
00:19:30.280 I just want
00:19:30.960 to back up
00:19:31.440 to that point
00:19:31.920 that you
00:19:32.160 made about
00:19:32.600 they have
00:19:33.920 to live
00:19:34.180 with this.
00:19:34.620 It's part
00:19:35.120 of the
00:19:35.320 historical
00:19:35.680 record now.
00:19:37.600 And I
00:19:37.860 did two
00:19:38.220 things with
00:19:39.040 the documentary
00:19:39.880 to kind
00:19:40.440 of physical
00:19:43.260 that.
00:19:43.860 I'm running
00:19:44.300 out of words
00:19:44.740 here.
00:19:45.480 One of them,
00:19:46.140 I took out
00:19:46.480 everything that
00:19:46.980 is timely.
00:19:47.760 So anything
00:19:48.120 that someone
00:19:48.600 who has
00:19:49.180 kept up
00:19:49.960 with this,
00:19:50.760 kept up
00:19:52.260 with the
00:19:52.460 phenomena
00:19:52.760 of the
00:19:53.380 whole thing
00:19:54.120 that happened,
00:19:54.940 I cut out
00:19:55.400 a lot of
00:19:55.740 the stuff
00:19:56.080 that is
00:19:57.320 kind of
00:19:57.620 like insights,
00:19:58.740 like only
00:19:59.160 that those
00:19:59.600 people would
00:20:00.020 know so
00:20:00.860 that now
00:20:01.280 when my
00:20:02.520 kid watches
00:20:03.160 this,
00:20:03.660 he will be
00:20:04.160 able to
00:20:04.500 understand
00:20:05.180 everything that
00:20:05.980 happened.
00:20:07.020 There's nothing
00:20:07.540 that you don't
00:20:09.060 need to Google
00:20:09.500 anything after.
00:20:10.780 It's very to
00:20:11.540 the point and
00:20:12.260 the story is
00:20:14.700 like it's
00:20:15.460 full.
00:20:16.440 And secondly,
00:20:17.120 the way that I
00:20:17.780 colored it,
00:20:19.560 which I love to
00:20:20.700 tell everybody
00:20:21.180 now,
00:20:21.820 is that I did
00:20:23.540 it by accident
00:20:24.300 when I was
00:20:24.840 trying to,
00:20:25.220 I made
00:20:25.620 this beautiful
00:20:26.160 cinematic,
00:20:26.920 like perfect
00:20:27.960 shadow,
00:20:28.540 perfect dark,
00:20:29.260 perfect color,
00:20:30.260 everything was
00:20:30.720 good.
00:20:31.180 And then my
00:20:31.600 fingers slipped
00:20:32.140 and I put
00:20:32.560 this like weird
00:20:33.180 glow onto it,
00:20:34.320 which I've
00:20:35.060 never used
00:20:35.580 before.
00:20:36.160 And then the
00:20:37.220 light,
00:20:38.020 like the
00:20:38.540 software took
00:20:39.080 the light
00:20:39.480 in Pastor
00:20:39.880 Archer's
00:20:40.240 room and
00:20:41.280 like put
00:20:41.720 light rays
00:20:42.220 on them.
00:20:42.860 I was like,
00:20:43.320 whoa,
00:20:44.300 that's like,
00:20:45.180 it just felt
00:20:45.960 like I added
00:20:46.720 some like God
00:20:48.080 to it.
00:20:49.800 And then
00:20:49.980 also put this
00:20:51.280 like halation
00:20:52.520 around him
00:20:53.200 where it felt
00:20:54.560 like it was
00:20:54.940 a dream.
00:20:56.120 But because
00:20:56.660 I already
00:20:56.980 had it all
00:20:57.380 dark,
00:20:58.060 it felt
00:20:58.600 like a bad
00:20:59.100 dream.
00:20:59.620 It was like
00:21:00.020 a nightmare.
00:21:01.640 And I just
00:21:02.560 started applying
00:21:03.080 that to you.
00:21:03.760 I applied that
00:21:04.240 to Henry Hildebrandt
00:21:05.100 and I just
00:21:05.440 looked at it.
00:21:05.960 I was like,
00:21:06.320 the whole
00:21:06.620 documentary now,
00:21:08.000 it kind of
00:21:08.820 looks like a
00:21:09.840 dream.
00:21:10.820 And that's
00:21:11.600 kind of what
00:21:12.060 I want.
00:21:13.480 In 10 years,
00:21:15.100 5 years,
00:21:15.600 when someone
00:21:15.960 watches this,
00:21:16.740 they'll be able
00:21:17.440 to look at it
00:21:18.020 and just feel
00:21:18.800 that how COVID
00:21:19.740 was a bad
00:21:20.280 dream because
00:21:20.800 no matter where
00:21:21.720 you stood on
00:21:22.180 the issue,
00:21:22.720 it was a bad
00:21:23.540 dream for
00:21:23.860 everybody.
00:21:24.560 And it
00:21:25.700 will be.
00:21:26.420 So yeah.
00:21:27.180 And we're
00:21:27.660 taking it on
00:21:28.060 tour.
00:21:28.460 Sorry to
00:21:28.780 backtrack there.
00:21:30.800 We are going
00:21:31.740 to Calgary
00:21:32.520 twice,
00:21:33.740 Toronto,
00:21:34.360 Ottawa,
00:21:34.980 Regina,
00:21:35.980 Steinbeck,
00:21:36.440 Manitoba,
00:21:38.120 St. John,
00:21:39.760 Edmonton,
00:21:42.080 Edmonton,
00:21:42.860 yeah.
00:21:43.380 And BC
00:21:44.120 in August.
00:21:45.740 Yes.
00:21:45.940 We haven't
00:21:46.340 booked that one
00:21:46.840 yet, but we
00:21:47.360 can share that.
00:21:48.520 Yes.
00:21:49.020 So BC
00:21:49.660 also in August.
00:21:50.740 it's a grueling
00:21:53.080 travel schedule
00:21:54.260 as it tends
00:21:54.940 to be for
00:21:56.320 you and I,
00:21:56.820 but we want
00:21:57.200 to make sure
00:21:57.560 that we bring
00:21:58.120 the documentary
00:21:59.640 as close to
00:22:01.360 the congregations
00:22:02.640 who participated
00:22:03.660 in the documentary
00:22:04.760 because their
00:22:05.880 communities were
00:22:06.520 affected by this
00:22:07.520 and we want
00:22:09.000 to make sure
00:22:09.460 that we're
00:22:11.220 really honoring
00:22:11.880 their contributions
00:22:13.520 not just to
00:22:14.500 our documentary,
00:22:15.300 but to the
00:22:16.260 liberty and
00:22:17.160 freedom of all
00:22:17.800 Canadians.
00:22:18.180 So that's
00:22:20.220 why we're
00:22:20.900 doing it
00:22:21.260 and we've
00:22:21.580 got somebody
00:22:22.460 very interested
00:22:23.080 in helping
00:22:23.520 us show it
00:22:24.420 in BC.
00:22:27.540 We've also
00:22:28.000 had some
00:22:28.320 trouble finding
00:22:30.100 venues because
00:22:31.720 of the subject
00:22:32.260 matters.
00:22:33.020 So I find
00:22:34.100 this fascinating
00:22:35.800 because these
00:22:36.800 are places
00:22:37.880 that will show
00:22:38.640 like gore,
00:22:40.420 depravity,
00:22:41.760 hedonism.
00:22:43.340 You just
00:22:43.980 can't show
00:22:44.360 what the
00:22:44.580 government did
00:22:45.080 to churches.
00:22:46.520 Yeah,
00:22:47.120 they show
00:22:47.860 the movies
00:22:49.960 about that
00:22:51.380 like glorify,
00:22:52.380 not glorify,
00:22:53.080 but talk
00:22:53.780 about slavery
00:22:54.380 and it's
00:22:54.740 just like
00:22:55.400 N-words dropping
00:22:56.260 here and there
00:22:56.800 in a cineplex
00:22:57.520 and I'm like,
00:22:59.180 I know you
00:23:01.840 don't call the
00:23:02.460 director and say
00:23:03.100 like you can't
00:23:03.680 say that in a
00:23:04.260 movie,
00:23:05.140 which like if
00:23:06.300 the movie's
00:23:06.760 about that,
00:23:07.220 like whatever,
00:23:07.680 say it,
00:23:08.040 but like don't
00:23:09.360 come to us
00:23:09.940 and say you
00:23:10.560 know you can't
00:23:11.020 show that here
00:23:11.760 because of its
00:23:12.540 content.
00:23:14.000 Like this
00:23:14.740 doesn't make
00:23:15.840 any sense.
00:23:16.500 but I will
00:23:17.820 say that
00:23:18.940 and I'll
00:23:20.000 totally call
00:23:20.480 them out,
00:23:20.740 I have no
00:23:21.020 problem doing
00:23:21.560 it,
00:23:22.300 Cineplex and
00:23:22.840 Landmark Cinemas
00:23:23.660 both agreed
00:23:25.100 to take on
00:23:26.040 our documentary
00:23:26.740 Cineplex BC
00:23:28.220 and Landmark
00:23:30.160 in all of
00:23:30.680 Ontario and
00:23:32.320 I was like,
00:23:32.680 oh, this is
00:23:33.100 the coolest
00:23:33.460 thing ever,
00:23:34.100 like I'll
00:23:35.060 take that and
00:23:36.200 then they
00:23:36.740 both sent an
00:23:37.460 email and
00:23:38.380 they both
00:23:38.980 said we'll
00:23:39.540 give you the
00:23:39.960 10 a.m.
00:23:40.520 show.
00:23:41.620 I'm like,
00:23:42.440 who goes to
00:23:43.280 the movie at
00:23:43.740 10, not even
00:23:44.380 a child on
00:23:46.160 who's staying
00:23:46.860 home from
00:23:47.260 sick goes to
00:23:47.940 see Super
00:23:48.360 Mario Bro at
00:23:49.020 10 a.m.
00:23:49.920 Nobody goes to
00:23:50.880 a movie then
00:23:51.440 and that was
00:23:52.480 a kind of way
00:23:53.040 of saying like,
00:23:53.680 yeah, we'll
00:23:54.000 respect free
00:23:54.680 speech but
00:23:55.280 we'll limit
00:23:56.440 you to the
00:23:57.480 absolute max.
00:23:59.480 So I'll
00:24:00.220 frame those
00:24:00.660 emails but I
00:24:01.460 won't be
00:24:01.740 showing a
00:24:02.480 movie there.
00:24:04.120 Just wow.
00:24:05.400 That's like
00:24:06.080 the old
00:24:08.200 Twitter, like
00:24:08.800 when they would
00:24:09.180 let you publish
00:24:09.840 things on
00:24:10.280 Twitter but no
00:24:11.300 one could find
00:24:11.860 you.
00:24:13.060 Completely
00:24:13.540 shadow banned
00:24:14.180 you have
00:24:15.220 free speech
00:24:15.800 I guess but
00:24:16.900 I'm yelling
00:24:17.400 into a
00:24:17.860 void.
00:24:19.740 Sort of
00:24:20.580 same thing
00:24:21.180 and we
00:24:22.260 should tell
00:24:22.640 everybody you
00:24:23.140 can get
00:24:24.520 tickets and
00:24:25.640 showtime details
00:24:26.600 and see the
00:24:27.620 incredible trailer
00:24:28.380 at save the
00:24:29.500 christians.com
00:24:30.900 it's all
00:24:31.260 available there
00:24:31.900 and there's
00:24:33.200 also we have
00:24:34.120 some licensing
00:24:34.680 opportunities that
00:24:35.560 we're considering
00:24:36.400 there also.
00:24:37.480 So if you
00:24:37.980 miss our
00:24:38.860 in-person
00:24:39.320 showings there
00:24:39.900 are other
00:24:40.200 ways that you
00:24:40.800 could see it
00:24:42.340 bring it to
00:24:43.160 your own
00:24:43.520 congregation
00:24:43.960 or your
00:24:44.620 own you
00:24:45.160 know civil
00:24:45.860 liberties
00:24:46.180 group
00:24:46.500 whatever
00:24:46.820 we're
00:24:47.160 working on
00:24:47.880 that we're
00:24:48.780 tweaking the
00:24:49.380 fine details
00:24:49.920 but we want
00:24:50.380 to make sure
00:24:50.720 that this
00:24:51.080 gets in front
00:24:51.640 of as many
00:24:52.160 eyeballs as
00:24:52.840 possible because
00:24:53.440 as you say
00:24:53.940 it's part of
00:24:54.540 the historical
00:24:55.400 record.
00:24:58.500 Yeah?
00:24:59.460 Yeah.
00:25:00.200 You just
00:25:00.460 wrapped it all
00:25:01.000 up right there.
00:25:02.500 And I
00:25:03.080 okay go ahead.
00:25:04.860 No I
00:25:05.520 know it's all
00:25:06.320 you.
00:25:06.920 I was just
00:25:07.500 gonna say and
00:25:08.120 we should let
00:25:08.660 everybody know
00:25:09.240 that this is
00:25:10.220 not our last
00:25:10.920 documentary.
00:25:11.440 It might be
00:25:12.920 our best
00:25:13.380 one to
00:25:13.920 date I
00:25:14.640 think but
00:25:15.380 it's not
00:25:15.760 our last
00:25:16.900 documentary we've
00:25:17.540 already started
00:25:18.160 work on the
00:25:19.220 next one.
00:25:19.720 I think we're
00:25:20.100 not quite ready
00:25:21.440 yet to tell
00:25:23.780 everybody what
00:25:24.640 it is but I
00:25:25.960 just want to let
00:25:26.920 everybody know that
00:25:27.500 we're already
00:25:27.960 working hard behind
00:25:29.000 the scenes again
00:25:29.780 on that grueling
00:25:31.180 travel schedule.
00:25:32.720 And that's why
00:25:33.380 it's a grueling
00:25:34.100 traveling schedule
00:25:34.880 because we got to
00:25:35.500 wrap up this
00:25:36.100 documentary in all
00:25:36.840 of July so we
00:25:37.560 can work on the
00:25:38.060 next one all of
00:25:38.740 August.
00:25:39.440 Yeah so the
00:25:39.920 next one starts
00:25:40.600 all of August so
00:25:42.360 we'll be traveling
00:25:43.000 around working on
00:25:44.760 the next documentary
00:25:45.480 and hopefully so
00:25:46.560 we'll launch that
00:25:47.400 one in the fall so
00:25:48.500 everybody at home
00:25:49.720 stay tuned we'll
00:25:50.540 have details and I
00:25:51.460 think we're going to
00:25:51.840 do it much the same
00:25:52.580 way where we'll
00:25:53.340 give out perks for
00:25:54.720 people who want to
00:25:55.380 pitch in so that
00:25:56.740 people can get sort
00:25:57.600 of invested in the
00:25:58.620 work that we are
00:25:59.500 doing because it
00:26:00.500 really is telling
00:26:02.040 the stories of all
00:26:02.940 Canadians.
00:26:04.740 Yeah I think one
00:26:06.580 it still wasn't a
00:26:07.400 mistake but one
00:26:08.040 thing I think I
00:26:08.620 learned from this
00:26:09.240 was I like the
00:26:11.020 fact that we're
00:26:11.520 kind of starting
00:26:12.340 this before we
00:26:13.140 announce it just
00:26:14.340 so when people do
00:26:15.700 or do get
00:26:17.680 interested in the
00:26:18.240 perks that they
00:26:18.800 can actually see
00:26:19.440 something they can
00:26:20.540 see something that
00:26:21.100 we've done so that
00:26:22.000 it's not just our
00:26:24.260 word against which
00:26:25.340 which I mean we're
00:26:27.200 going to do it but
00:26:27.940 it's I think it'd be
00:26:28.880 cool to have
00:26:29.640 something be like
00:26:30.560 this is what we're
00:26:31.680 doing but we also
00:26:32.740 want to keep doing.
00:26:34.620 Yeah yeah we're not
00:26:35.720 just selling a dream
00:26:36.760 we're already
00:26:37.740 exactly that's what I
00:26:38.980 was trying to say
00:26:39.760 yeah that's why I'm
00:26:41.540 the narrator of the
00:26:42.740 documentary.
00:26:44.200 I'm the wordsmith
00:26:45.300 you're the visual
00:26:46.220 guy.
00:26:47.620 Kian I know that
00:26:49.100 you've got work to
00:26:50.220 do today and so do
00:26:51.000 I but I want to
00:26:51.640 thank you so much
00:26:52.260 for coming on the
00:26:52.980 show and for
00:26:54.320 working so hard on
00:26:55.260 this documentary.
00:26:57.700 I think it's your
00:26:58.680 best work to date.
00:27:00.340 Well I appreciate
00:27:01.060 that I think it's
00:27:01.780 our best work to
00:27:02.580 date.
00:27:02.760 nice thank you
00:27:04.800 thanks for coming
00:27:07.460 on the show we'll
00:27:08.140 I'll talk to you
00:27:09.640 later today I mean
00:27:10.420 we work together.
00:27:11.260 Okay yeah I'll
00:27:11.860 talk to you in an
00:27:12.320 hour.
00:27:13.000 Okay bye Kian.
00:27:14.760 Bye.
00:27:22.500 Well we've come to
00:27:23.460 the portion of the
00:27:24.080 show as always where
00:27:25.740 we invite your viewer
00:27:26.980 feedback because
00:27:28.300 without you there is
00:27:29.140 no rebel news so we
00:27:30.140 want to hear from you
00:27:30.960 unlike the mainstream
00:27:31.680 media we don't leave
00:27:33.320 our comment section
00:27:34.420 closed up like Fort
00:27:35.900 Knox we want to
00:27:37.380 have a lively
00:27:38.360 civilized debate in
00:27:40.700 the comment section
00:27:41.520 or you know we want
00:27:43.940 to hear if you like
00:27:45.280 what we're doing or
00:27:46.020 if you hate it.
00:27:46.920 It's one of the
00:27:47.420 reasons why I give
00:27:48.540 out my email address
00:27:49.440 right now it's
00:27:50.200 Sheila at
00:27:50.720 rebelnews.com
00:27:51.860 let me know what
00:27:53.280 you think put gun
00:27:54.280 show letters in the
00:27:54.960 subject line so that
00:27:55.980 it's easier for me to
00:27:56.920 find I do get
00:27:57.660 sometimes upwards of
00:27:58.720 a hundred or
00:27:59.620 hundreds of emails
00:28:01.420 per day so that
00:28:03.020 just helps me sort
00:28:04.260 through them but
00:28:05.220 also don't hesitate
00:28:06.180 to leave a comment
00:28:07.380 on you know
00:28:09.640 whatever platform
00:28:10.300 you're watching the
00:28:11.380 free version of the
00:28:12.380 show on YouTube or
00:28:13.720 Rumble sometimes I go
00:28:14.600 looking over there.
00:28:16.280 Tonight's letter
00:28:17.140 comes to us from a
00:28:18.180 lady named Joanne and
00:28:19.480 it's on last week's
00:28:20.760 show that I did with
00:28:21.640 my friend David
00:28:22.720 Menzies and we were
00:28:24.060 talking about the war
00:28:25.000 on parents that seems
00:28:26.120 to be happening down
00:28:27.420 at school board
00:28:28.560 meetings.
00:28:29.900 Now this is a
00:28:31.160 phenomenon that's
00:28:32.020 happening I think
00:28:33.020 across the civilized
00:28:34.240 western world but it
00:28:36.280 really is focused in
00:28:39.500 Ontario, in Ottawa,
00:28:42.440 you know in Toronto,
00:28:45.440 Halton where there are
00:28:48.980 these attempts to shut
00:28:50.140 parents out of any
00:28:53.660 conversation around what
00:28:54.960 should be taught to
00:28:56.140 their children in
00:28:57.000 school.
00:28:58.200 It seems to be
00:28:59.420 focused around
00:29:00.160 transgender issues and
00:29:02.100 gender theory but I
00:29:05.120 think that's just the
00:29:05.960 flashpoint.
00:29:07.000 I think there has been
00:29:07.860 for quite some time
00:29:09.260 this pervasive problem
00:29:11.260 with teachers and
00:29:13.400 people in the education
00:29:14.340 system thinking that
00:29:15.600 they're co-parents and
00:29:17.040 that even though they
00:29:18.720 are employees of the
00:29:20.640 state paid for by the
00:29:22.840 taxpayer, ultimately the
00:29:24.140 parent, they think that
00:29:25.380 they should have some
00:29:26.240 rights to infect your
00:29:29.520 children with their
00:29:30.820 ideology and you don't
00:29:32.240 get to say in it and
00:29:33.580 that's outrageous.
00:29:35.060 It's happened long
00:29:36.420 before now.
00:29:37.300 I think this is just the
00:29:38.240 breaking point for a lot
00:29:39.920 of people.
00:29:40.500 Joanne writes,
00:29:41.520 Sheila, I'm a teacher in
00:29:42.760 small town Alberta
00:29:43.580 watching the gun show from
00:29:44.720 a couple of days ago with
00:29:45.920 the legendary David
00:29:46.980 Mendes thinking that you
00:29:48.520 are completely right except
00:29:49.900 I'm waiting for you to
00:29:51.020 mention the approved sex
00:29:52.340 education curriculum that
00:29:53.980 Alberta teachers are
00:29:55.060 required to teach.
00:29:56.820 I've linked it below but
00:29:58.120 anyone can just Google
00:29:59.280 Alberta sex education and
00:30:00.960 you'll get the official
00:30:01.620 site.
00:30:02.420 My principal sent it to all
00:30:03.640 teachers with the lesson
00:30:04.640 plans and resources and
00:30:06.320 the inclusive language we
00:30:07.860 are required to use in the
00:30:09.140 classroom like pregnant
00:30:10.620 person, assigned at birth,
00:30:12.540 etc.
00:30:13.280 Please look at the teacher
00:30:14.560 and parent portals.
00:30:16.160 It's not just Ontario that
00:30:17.300 has a problem with this.
00:30:18.340 Oh, I completely agree with
00:30:20.040 you but I'll preface that
00:30:21.280 at the end of this.
00:30:22.180 And it's not just
00:30:23.160 incompetent woke school
00:30:24.160 board members who are
00:30:25.280 pushing it.
00:30:26.280 Gender ideology
00:30:27.140 indoctrination is here in
00:30:29.040 Alberta created and
00:30:30.000 sanctioned by Alberta
00:30:31.040 Health and idiot teachers
00:30:32.780 that are giddily lapping
00:30:34.840 it up.
00:30:35.240 I also appreciate you
00:30:36.260 immensely.
00:30:36.860 Thank you for the work
00:30:37.460 that you do, Joanne.
00:30:38.860 And then she linked it
00:30:39.680 there and I'll actually link
00:30:40.540 that in the show notes.
00:30:42.420 You know what, Joanne,
00:30:43.780 first of all, I want to
00:30:45.440 thank you because you are a
00:30:47.600 good teacher grinding away
00:30:49.420 in the mechanisms of the
00:30:51.200 machine and the machine
00:30:52.400 is evil and it wants to
00:30:54.100 infect kids with a mind
00:30:55.860 poison and I'm so glad
00:30:58.080 that you are in the
00:30:59.780 system as probably
00:31:01.040 difficult as it is for
00:31:02.240 you because we need
00:31:03.180 people like you
00:31:04.020 protecting children like
00:31:05.660 mine inside the system
00:31:07.280 and resisting it in any
00:31:10.380 way possible while still
00:31:11.920 maintaining your
00:31:13.680 employment.
00:31:14.220 You still have kids to
00:31:15.120 feed to and bills to pay.
00:31:17.660 So let me just say
00:31:18.960 that while you
00:31:19.980 appreciate me, I very
00:31:21.660 much appreciate you.
00:31:22.580 You are an absolute
00:31:24.200 essential part of this
00:31:25.440 and it's got to be very
00:31:26.660 difficult for you to be
00:31:27.720 inside all of that, just
00:31:29.580 seeing the madness
00:31:30.960 swirling around you.
00:31:32.940 Now, I have read the
00:31:34.340 Alberta sex ed curriculum.
00:31:36.460 It's kooky.
00:31:37.940 It's not great.
00:31:41.180 And, you know, it's
00:31:43.340 written by activists
00:31:45.060 very clearly.
00:31:45.820 It uses weird language
00:31:47.380 that erases women,
00:31:48.660 which the feminists
00:31:50.100 seem to be okay about.
00:31:51.680 But I should point out
00:31:53.040 to you.
00:31:53.500 Now, I don't know if
00:31:54.140 this is the same in your
00:31:55.620 school system and it
00:31:58.320 might not be.
00:31:59.200 And thanks to the
00:32:00.420 prickly parents and the
00:32:03.260 very orthodox Catholics
00:32:05.000 in my school system,
00:32:07.460 but while the sex ed
00:32:12.100 curriculum is taught in
00:32:14.000 our schools, we were
00:32:16.280 given the opportunity
00:32:17.060 to opt out entirely.
00:32:19.680 And we were also given
00:32:20.980 the assurances that
00:32:23.060 whatever the province
00:32:25.240 wanted our teachers to
00:32:27.020 teach, it would be
00:32:28.400 taught through a very
00:32:29.180 specific Catholic lens
00:32:31.800 with a focus on
00:32:33.120 abstinence and respecting
00:32:34.520 your body because it is
00:32:36.200 a temple of the Holy
00:32:37.020 Spirit created in the image
00:32:38.660 of the divine and
00:32:40.360 that it would
00:32:40.940 maintain Catholic
00:32:43.080 teaching as the
00:32:45.140 teachers instructed
00:32:46.180 the sex ed curriculum
00:32:47.220 with a strong focus
00:32:48.120 on biology
00:32:48.940 and
00:32:50.700 Catholic doctrine.
00:32:54.100 So, I was given
00:32:55.620 that in my school
00:32:56.680 system.
00:32:57.100 I don't know if
00:32:57.580 that's like that in
00:32:59.000 other school systems
00:32:59.900 and kudos to the
00:33:01.220 teachers inside our
00:33:02.820 school system who
00:33:04.180 advocated for making
00:33:06.280 sure that sex ed was
00:33:07.560 taught through the
00:33:08.820 Catholic lens that we
00:33:10.680 hope it will be because
00:33:11.820 that's why we send our
00:33:12.680 kids to Catholic school
00:33:13.500 and strong thanks to
00:33:15.500 the parents who
00:33:16.440 ensured that that was
00:33:17.520 the case.
00:33:18.600 But without those two
00:33:20.640 groups coming together
00:33:23.420 for the kids, I don't
00:33:26.240 think that would have
00:33:26.780 been the case in my
00:33:27.600 school system.
00:33:28.600 So, I think the moral
00:33:29.240 of the story there is
00:33:30.340 good teachers join hands
00:33:32.200 with good parents to
00:33:33.860 protect the kids from
00:33:35.240 the activists and it
00:33:36.960 can be done.
00:33:37.800 So, I don't want to
00:33:39.000 say which school
00:33:39.720 system my kids go to
00:33:40.680 but I was very glad,
00:33:42.600 very glad that that
00:33:43.320 was the case and I've
00:33:44.680 run up against some
00:33:45.620 activist teachers in
00:33:46.820 that school system.
00:33:47.680 I know they're there
00:33:48.260 too but they seem to
00:33:49.620 be losing because other
00:33:51.640 people are rising up.
00:33:52.780 So, I'm really happy
00:33:53.780 about that and I think
00:33:56.540 that's it.
00:33:57.300 I even read the email
00:33:58.740 actually, I think I
00:33:59.800 read it on the live
00:34:00.580 stream that I received
00:34:01.980 from my daughter's
00:34:04.380 school assuring me
00:34:05.700 that everything would
00:34:07.220 be taught through a
00:34:08.200 Catholic lens.
00:34:08.880 So, it can be done.
00:34:11.600 I guess the moral of
00:34:13.280 the story is it can be
00:34:14.580 done.
00:34:15.140 It's just not often
00:34:16.320 done and it's time for
00:34:18.260 parents to get involved
00:34:19.320 and if there are brave
00:34:21.440 teachers inside the
00:34:22.360 system, grinding it
00:34:24.200 out, thank you.
00:34:25.560 I appreciate you so
00:34:26.860 much.
00:34:27.100 I know it's a terrible
00:34:27.700 job that you have to
00:34:28.460 do.
00:34:29.120 Well, everybody, that's
00:34:30.060 the show for tonight.
00:34:30.740 Thank you so much for
00:34:31.620 tuning in.
00:34:32.100 I'll see everybody
00:34:32.960 back here in the same
00:34:33.760 time, in the same
00:34:35.040 space next week and as
00:34:37.080 always, remember, don't
00:34:38.360 let the government tell
00:34:39.200 you that you've had too
00:34:40.620 much to think.
00:35:02.100 have a great job.
00:35:03.100 I'll see you next week.
00:35:04.100 Bye.
00:35:05.100 Bye.
00:35:06.100 Bye.
00:35:07.100 Bye.
00:35:08.100 Bye.
00:35:09.100 Bye.
00:35:10.100 Bye.
00:35:11.100 Bye.
00:35:11.140 Bye.