SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Selene Galas is covering Pastor Art in a Calgary court for Rebel News
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Summary
As Pastor Art Poloski faces yet another trial, we get the analysis from someone who joined me in the courtroom, one of our newest rebels, Celine Gallus. Celine started off as an intern with us and ended up chasing a convoy to Ottawa chasing the convoy. And then, after she was finished covering the convoy, she went straight to the border blockade at Cootes and started working there.
Transcript
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What's happening in the courtroom as Pastor Art Poloski faces yet another trial, we get the
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analysis from someone who joined me in the courtroom, one of our newest rebels, Celine Gallus.
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I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
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If you were following along with my Twitter feed yesterday, you would know that I was
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in the courtroom as Pastor Art Poloski of Calgary is in another trial for feeding the
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And it is a bizarre persecution of the pastor given that public protests at the time when
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he received the ticket were recently deemed to be not covered under the Chief Medical
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So now the Crown is trying to say that Art's open-air Christmas festival slash soup kitchen
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was somehow a private gathering exclusively relegated to just Christians when people's faith in
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Christ was never quizzed before Art fed them steak and gave them Christmas presents and showed
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them a little dignity and joy and love and kindness during the Christmas season of 2020.
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Now joining me in the courtroom is someone who started off as an intern, Celine Gallus.
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Literally her first day with us, we stuck her in a rental car with Mocha Bezergin and sent
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And then after she was finished covering the convoy in Ottawa, instead of going home, she went
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straight to the border blockade at Cootes and started working there.
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You might say we tried to break her, but we really didn't.
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There's just so much news to cover and we have great expectations for the young people
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And now Celine is learning how to court report.
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And just last week, she chased Prime Minister Justin Trudeau unsuccessfully, however, on the
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So I thought, since I'm in court, since I'm in Calgary, and since Celine's got an interesting
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career trajectory, that we would sit down and talk in the workspace in Calgary.
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So this is the conversation we had yesterday when we were on lunch from court, which we did
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not eat lunch because we had to film this and then get back to court.
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I'm here in the workspace in Calgary with someone who started off as an intern, Celine Gallus.
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But Celine, I want to have you on the show because I'm in Calgary this week covering the
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But I also want to talk to you about the pathway to becoming a rebel because you started off
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as an intern with us and we threw you like right, right into the fire.
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We, your first day with us, you jumped in a rental car with Mocha Bezergen and went all
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I guess my question is, why didn't we break you?
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Um, I'm a big believer of trial by fire in general.
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I'm an individual that really likes to push myself and I'm always aiming to strive towards
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betterment and anywhere that there is an obstacle.
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I mean, working for Rebel in general is an obstacle.
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It's a, it's a, it's, um, it's a lifestyle is what I like to tell people when they ask me
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like what they can do to work for Rebel News or, you know, what does it take?
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And I tell them, I'm like, well, it's not a job.
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You eat, breathe, sleep, and you live this because this is a passion.
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And one of the things that I'm really proud of that we do at Rebel News is you might start
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For example, just hanging a camera out the window as Mocha drives across the country,
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We get you, you know, working in other parts of the company to see what fits.
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Um, I was definitely able to discover a lot of the different passions that I have for,
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So it did start with just me hanging myself out of the window and capturing the convoy.
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And then being on the streets of Ottawa too, that was really just super intense at all times.
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But then having the opportunity to report or even having a hand in creating the media
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that we send out on a day-to-day basis for daily content or, um, you know, social media
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just in general, it's been great to be able to explore, uh, those different, uh, avenues
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So let's talk about the trip to Ottawa because your trip to Ottawa didn't actually end with
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Uh, you went from Ottawa straight to Coots to cover the border blockade there.
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Because I think Rebel got the story right and everybody else with the exception, I think
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of True North and a couple of other places, they got it wrong.
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Um, just the atmosphere in general, like when, when you approach Milk River, it's, it's a
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It's very desolate, you know, as opposed to being in the middle of Ottawa where, you know,
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it's already a hustle and bustle type of city, but just approaching Milk River, there
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was this tangible feeling in the air, just like this tension all around and driving up this
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long road in the, in the prairies, you could just see the convoy just stopped just, and
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then this entire streamline of, of police cars with their, their sirens and their lights
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And when we pulled into, um, it was that bar, I don't recall the names.
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Like they, it felt like a war zone, to be honest with you.
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Um, there, there wasn't, despite, you know, some of the times where like people were laughing
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and trying to be very lighthearted about the situation.
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Like they were stationed right on the border of the, of the U S and, uh, that's not, that's
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not a small feat and it's not for the faint of heart.
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And, um, they were there for a very, very long time.
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And in Ottawa, you know, there's a lot of smiles and stuff like that and, and people celebrating
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I think that's a, that's a good way to describe it.
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Um, but I was really proud of the way that people contain themselves and, and, and kept
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And they were able to just like remain in that the whole time.
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But it was definitely very different from Ottawa and the fact that, um, yeah, you didn't
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It was, it was like desolate, barren, freezing cold, absolutely freezing.
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And, uh, uh, K2 and, uh, Sid, the work that they did down there, that was, that was incredible.
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They really, uh, put themselves on the, on the front lines and they did everything necessary
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to capture the story as altruistic, as altruistically as possible.
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You know, they really did capture, I think the, the feeling of Coutts in their documentary
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And we have new showings that we're working on.
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And we've done two in Calgary and we have new ones coming to other parts of the province
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If you're a subscriber to Rebel News Plus, well, good news, because you can see the movie
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Um, it's included in your Rebel News Plus subscription and boy, what a great time to become a Rebel
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If you're watching the, um, paywall version of the show, well, you already know.
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Um, and if you're watching the free version of the show, now's your chance because there's
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a lot of content behind the paywall that you won't see anywhere else.
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But yeah, it was very tense, I think down there.
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And whereas in Ottawa, there were three weeks of fun and street parties before the tension
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And they really didn't know if the police were going to come from the South or from
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They were cut off from their friends and family.
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So they were in a constant hyper state of tension there.
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But yeah, you went all the way to Ottawa, did that, and then drove all the way back across
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the country in a rental car and went straight to Coutts.
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Yeah, we just we couldn't not like it's I guess it's also just the thrill of like riding
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that train of adrenaline, so to speak, like after coming back from Ottawa, like we honestly
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You know, there's always a part of like journalism where like you get to the point where you're
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We want to be able to show that to the viewers.
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But then, you know, right in our backyard, we had Coutts.
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So driving back, it was a little bit slow paced.
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And we're like, you know, we need to go and offer aid to our fellow rebels and go meet
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So, yeah, we straight from from Ottawa all the way to Coutts, no stopping.
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Now, I think you are a testament to just how actually tolerant we are at Rebel News with
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people who have different lifestyles and different viewpoints.
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I know that for a fact, because you ate some of mine one day.
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And you even were able to ask politicians questions about gun rights.
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So you asked the question about gun rights at the Conservative Party leadership debate in
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Yeah, that was that was a really great experience.
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Keep your keep your hands off our guns dot com.
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If you haven't checked it out, definitely do now.
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I just think it's ridiculous to be able to, you know, really, really crunch down on on
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on people's rights and freedoms in a time where, you know, we're we're trying to facilitate
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a reality where we feel like we have some of those back in our own hands.
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You think, oh, veganism, you know, definitely probably against guns because of the ethics
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I've always been pro gun, even pro hunting to to a certain extent.
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It's really for me, it was it's how the system is abused.
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Even in that way, I don't like seeing different systems that we have kind of working in a state
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of dysfunction, I don't see that there's a purpose to certain things, you know, health
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But definitely, yeah, shooting guns without him was great.
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Conservatives, take your liberal friends to the gun range.
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If you want to convert them to being a friend of the firearms movement, just take them to
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Now, what did it feel like to be able to ask a politician a tough question?
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Because when you ask politicians questions, it can feel intimidating.
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But you have to realize they're actually scared of you and the question you're asking.
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Yeah, actually, I watched my my little video segment back a few times.
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And there's just this slight moment where I kept going back and laughing because his face
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just kind of dropped like the micro expression of what is she about to ask me?
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I just I wasn't afraid in general, to be honest.
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There's something that I realized about politicians and journalists is that we have this way of
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just it's like magnets in a room because we are always going to be reporting on what they're
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doing and they're always going to be worrying about what we're reporting in regards to their
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And every time that, you know, they would shift or say something or do something, I
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really I could notice and I could feel that above anyone else in the crowd, like there
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was the magnetism and there was almost like eye contact or looking or, you know, reactions.
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And when I walked up to the podium and I was the first person to ask that question, I was
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And I'm glad that I that I was able to ask that question about gun rights, because, I
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mean, at the time, we didn't know what Trudeau had in his back pocket or card up his sleeve,
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So it's very interesting to see it play out that way.
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You know, and it's good because you are asking a question that, you know, thousands, tens of
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Actually, I think it's over two million licensed Canadian firearms owners.
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And that's our duty as journalists is to ask questions that the people want answers
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to, not like the CBC at that debate where they just kept asking the same dumb question
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about climate change over and over to each and every politician.
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Yeah, definitely check out the documentary on YouTube as well.
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I got Keane Simone on that as well as Louis Brackpool from the UK.
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We're in court covering the trial of Pastor Art Poloski.
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And this is a three-day trial, and there's no way in heck that they're going to be done
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in three days on the matter of a single, this one, a single public health ticket for illegal
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And the illegal public gathering in question was a Christmas meal that he served to the
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He's on trial right now for serving them steak, which breaks my heart because I can't even
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imagine when was the last time those folks had a steak, and vegetables and potatoes and
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There was mention of gingerbread and hot chocolate.
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I can't even believe the things I'm hearing in court.
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I can't even believe that these things are crimes.
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And giving them Christmas presents, organizing Christmas presents for them.
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And we heard testimony all day this morning, all morning.
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Um, but, uh, just the idea that a pastor in Calgary could be on trial facing fines for
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And Art made a great point to us today that he was feeding the homeless when the homeless
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had been denied services by the city of Calgary because they initially limited the amount of
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I've, I've never, I've actually never been in court before.
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And, uh, it's really different from the movies.
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If you've never been in court before, like it's not, um, there aren't all these very hard
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questions being asked where you're constantly on your, the edge of your seat and you're just,
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you're waiting, you know, if it's going to be testified against or if, you know, there's
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And I literally sat there for the most part with you today, you know, despite that we
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had some good tweets and we were definitely, um, keeping the viewers updated, but most
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of them towards the end were about if the Christmas trees there were real, if, uh, the
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people wearing what we could assume to be Santa hats were in fact, Santa hats.
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They said they were not specifically traditional Santa hats, but they were Christmas specific.
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I feel like it's, uh, you know, we're focusing on the peas and the carrots when we need to
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Like the, you know, the, the hand, uh, the, the very important, uh, thing at matter here
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And the fact that just like you said earlier, like they were denied resources.
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Um, and, um, um, I sent out a tweet and, um, the crown was actually insinuating by asking
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the, the peace officer there that's testifying against, uh, Pastor Arthur, um, you know,
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if there are other resources that exist in Calgary for, uh, the homeless population.
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And, you know, she said, yes, because of course there are, there always have been in the city.
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So does that mean that when someone puts forth the effort, um, to really, you know, show them
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courtesy a little bit more and give them a warm meal and, um, show them love and kindness
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That was one of the, sorry to interrupt you, but that was one of the things that I guess
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the crown found appalling was that Art and his congregation were hugging the homeless and
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shaking their hands and showing them kindness and human dignity and de-stigmatizing them.
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And, you know, we hear that word all the time from the left that there shouldn't be stigma.
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Well, when Art does that in practice, he ends up in court.
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I'm not sure who, you know, could actually be very honest and like, you know, deconstruct
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the entire event, uh, that we're going over today in courts, which is just a gathering
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of people that are literally there to facilitate that warm, loving environment for people that
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probably haven't been shown a lot of that, uh, in their lives, but not in recent times
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There's a lot of fear mongering around being close to the people around you, let alone your
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Like, how do you think that they feel being that they're already on the streets and
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Um, but obviously with the crown, they were more focused on the gingerbread and the color
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And that was another thing that, um, they're using as evidence against art, um, because
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at the time people were only allowed to gather together if they were from the same household.
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And so the peace officer said, you know, these people, they're obviously not from the same
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It's sort of in the implied when you call someone homeless that they don't have a house
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And this was the only place where they could get a hot meal that day and be shown love
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and not treated like, you know, the unmentionables on the street that day.
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And that was another tweet that we focused on being very keen about sending out is just
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that it's, it like, how do you even have that conversation with somebody?
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Like it's so, it can be so simply broken down between us and in this conversation.
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And I'm sure everyone on the other side of this camera is pretty much nodding their heads
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at this point, but it's really hard to, uh, get around like the simplicity of, of actions
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that are just literally from, from kindness and love.
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I think that's where ego comes into play and, and most of the time politics as well, because
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something like this, that is so simple and just literally from the bottom of, uh, of their
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heart, from the organizations that they're a part of, it's, um, I don't understand it.
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This is, yeah, court's a little bit challenging, but, uh, it's good.
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It is challenging, especially when you're looking at the evidence.
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One of the videos that we were shown today shows Art talking about his Christmas event
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And behind him are hundreds of people skating, literally hundreds of people skating on Olympic
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But Art gathering together to feed the homeless, that wasn't fine.
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That was an illegal public gathering under the rule.
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And as you're sitting there, you're realizing, okay, this is three days long.
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This is on a charge that goes back to December, 2020.
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It's, there's no way they're going to finish because the crown is sucking our life out by
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just entering all these nonsense things into evidence and taking forever.
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Um, but we know that Alberta has an extreme shortage of crown prosecutors to the point
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where real crimes are being thrown out because they're going over the constitutional limit of
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And so rapists are walking free people who abuse their wives and their children or their
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spouses are walking free while the crown wastes resources, three day trial on this ticket,
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instead of just tossing it out and saying it's not in the public interest.
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Um, during the entire pandemic in the winter, um, people were skating all the time.
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Right across the street from where Art got his ticket.
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So as always, it seems to be one law for me, one law for thee, or one law for, yeah.
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So it's, it's always, it's, it's hypocritical that it's steeped in hypocrisy, these things.
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Like it's literally right behind them in the video too.
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And it's like multiples of people and they're just going around.
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Like I'm sure if you zoomed into the clip, you know, there is a lot of people that weren't
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Um, but that's one of the issues that she brought up and that was actually, um, objectified
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is that, um, she asked, uh, the, the crown asked the, the peace officer if, uh, if she
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can recall, uh, the people in the crowd, you know, wearing a mask and, you know, there's
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a lot of, um, there's a lot of wiggle room for these things, especially, you know, fast
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forward to 2022 with masks in particular, like just before it was lifted, you know, you
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could go into a restaurant wearing a mask, but you could, you know, also take it down
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So, you know, if you're going to go to a, if you're going to go to a place where, you
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know, you're expecting to get a meal, a warm meal and, you know, you're outside, it's already
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It's like in the minus, you know, a thousand because it's Canada.
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How do you facilitate evening social distancing to grab your food?
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If we're going by like the meter stick of like six feet, it doesn't even make any
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And when these points get brought up, you know, now, you know, back then it might've
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And, uh, but even then a different, it didn't because at that time you didn't have to wear
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I mean, it doesn't make any sense, but why would the crown even bring it in?
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And when challenged by, by Sarah Miller, arts, long time layer on that issue, she said,
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well, it colors the crowd as in their anti lockdown.
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They aren't, they aren't science believers, um, they're adjacent to the lockdown protests.
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So yeah, no, they, they're, they're being adjacent to the lockdown protests.
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It's a good bet that they are colored with the same brush, but it was trying, you know,
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it was very clear trying to sort of bias the court against art because he's a, an objector.
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They were sort of putting his politics on trial as opposed to his actions that day.
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It's, uh, it doesn't make a lot of sense in regards to, to the science aspect, right?
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Especially if you are just outside, then yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't make a lot of
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That's why I'm here and I didn't wear the masks.
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I want to ask you, what is the outside of the two convoys?
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I can't even believe that I'm saying outside of the two convoys that you covered, the two
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major international stories that you've covered for us.
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Um, what's the, um, most interesting story or the most fun story that you've done outside
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If you asked me that, I'd say they couldn't be beat by the convoy.
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But, uh, I think just recently when, uh, Justin Trudeau snuck into Calgary and, uh, we were
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down at the Fairmont here in, uh, in Calgary and, uh, just the crowds that showed up, like
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We got the tip, me and Sid raced right from our, our second premiering of, uh, or showing
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of the, the new, uh, Coots Trucker documentary.
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And, um, the crowd of people that was waiting there when Justin Trudeau's plane was not set
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to even touch down until 10 PM, we arrived there just after eight and there was already
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like 20, 30 people, you know, using parabolics, running around with flags and it was a good
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The crowd was peaceful, but it was just the dedication alone.
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Um, when you have a prime minister, such as the one that we do in Canada, um, yeah, if
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you've watched, you've watched the videos, yeah, you definitely, you know, you know what's
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It makes sense why there would be a crowd, but like just the determination and.
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Oh, it's what I love about Alberta that Trudeau's not going to come on our turf and just get
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And the FU Trudeau flags, that's all out there in full force.
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He's not just going to roll in under cover of darkness and just roll out of town.
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There was so many different like back alleys and different passageways.
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Like we, we tried to like think like, like logistically, we're like, you know, he's probably
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no matter what, not going to roll through the front door.
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But like, where would he most likely, you know, come in or, you know, if there's like
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a, an access point from the back, there is like 20, 30 ways to get into this building.
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Not to mention the plus 15s, not to mention the underground, um, tunnels that like run through
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So it's, he snuck in, we got confirmation later, um, from the staff that he was already
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in the building and sleeping, despite us, you know, asking them before he got there,
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apparently they, they just said that they had no idea what was going on, which was laughable.
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I'm like, there's just 40 people in front of your establishment for absolutely no reason
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And just, you know, and there's RCMP security all over the place.
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This is, and to see the mainstream media also, again, parked about two blocks, uh, down from
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where the, the Fairmont was and just, you know, capturing something, some angle.
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I don't watch fake news, but, um, yeah, they, they started to be belligerent when the crowd
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started to out them, like I got a little clip of it.
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I was, I was kind of stowed away in a back alley, hoping that that's where he would come
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Um, I got to, to capture it at once the crowd started to realize like, Hey, that ginormous
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camera that that guy is carrying over there and setting up and recording us from like such
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Like these are the people that, you know, they know us personally.
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Like when we do journalism, like we actually go up to people.
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We talk to people, we're in the crowd, we enmesh with them.
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We are not two blocks up the road, sitting in their car, scared to death, being sketchy.
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Um, but as soon as they're outed, you know, the dude started shouting stuff back and I
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was like, Hey, like just cut it, take your camera and, you know, just get on out of here.
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Unfortunately, that was, I'll catch him eventually.
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So now you have to sort of decide what you want to do and the things you want to focus
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So what's sort of on your horizon that way besides court reporting so that I don't have
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Um, yeah, I'll definitely be doing probably, you know, still a little bit of the, the backend
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stuff with social media and whatnot and the court stuff when Sheila cannot be here or Adam
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And it's interesting to see how the sausage gets made a little bit.
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The, the justice system does, does grind and squeak.
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And it's, and it's interesting to be privy to that.
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Um, but journalism as a whole to be a reporter.
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Um, and once they do, I would love to be a traveling international reporter so I can report
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anywhere, uh, around the world and, and be dedicated to providing that other side of
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She's like a, there's like lots of strays in her neighborhood and they all just seem
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So, you know, just grandma, we got a cat grandma.
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Thanks for letting our viewers get to know you a little bit better.
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Now this is the portion of the show where we read your viewer feedback.
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Unlike the mainstream media, we actually leave our comment section open.
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We even invite comments because we want to know what you think about the work that we're
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So one of the best ways to have me read your comments on air, and I do take them from different
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sources, but I do appreciate when they go directly to my email.
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And if you put gun show letters in the subject line, it's really easy for me to find because
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And that's one of the best ways for me to sort through them.
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So anyway, now that that's out of the way, we can get to Kathy's letter.
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And she writes, I just watched K2's Trucker Convoy documentary.
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I followed all rebel reporters throughout the ordeal, but wow, I live in Calgary and on
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the one hand, wish I could have been at the Canyon Meadows Theater to watch it with kindred
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But on the other hand, it made me weep with pride.
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And that would not be a good look to wear in public.
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Thank you to Kian and company for creating this wonderful piece that restores hope in
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And that makes me marvel even still at all the souls involved and the conditions with
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which they dealt in order to help restore some amount of normalcy to our lives.
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While there is still a ways to go to fully have freedom restored, there is hope.
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Well, Kathy, I'm assuming that since you didn't go to the theatrical release at Canyon
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Meadows Cinema, that you are watching the Trucker documentary as part of your subscription
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For those of you who aren't subscribed to Rebel News Plus, there is exclusive content available
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And to become a subscriber, just go to rebelnewsplus.com.
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The movie's called Trucker Rebellion, The Story of the Coots Blockade.
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We did two showings in Calgary at Canyon Meadows Cinema.
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And due to popular demand, we are releasing it to special showings in the Edmonton area.
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And as I'm filming this, I'm proud to say we just booked a very interesting, fun event.
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It is at a restaurant that has hosted events for us before, so we know they're cancel culture
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And so you get a great, all-you-can-eat buffet meal with your non-alcoholic drinks included.
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And then we watch the movie together, and then we're going to have a Q&A session afterwards
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And you must get your tickets fast, because there are only 100 of them.
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Just go to truckerdocumentary.com, and you'll get your tickets there.
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This is going to be a very interesting, fun event with great food, great people, and then
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I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.
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And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.