Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ The Annual UN Climate Change prom is upon us once again

00:00:00.000 Hang on to your wallets, my fellow Canadians.

00:00:02.040 It's time again for the United Nations Climate Change Conference.

00:00:05.200 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:24.380 You know, when the weather turns cold and you need a break,

00:00:27.920 well, if you're an activist, bureaucrat, or politician,

00:00:31.960 November through to the beginning of December,

00:00:34.760 it's the best time of year for you.

00:00:36.740 It's Christmas come early, honestly,

00:00:38.660 because you get to go to the United Nations Annual Climate Change Conference.

00:00:43.480 You get to hop on a jet and fly halfway around the world

00:00:48.940 and enjoy a little party for a couple of weeks in a city you may never get to.

00:00:57.420 In the before times, in your other life,

00:01:00.240 before you turn to scolding normal people about using fossil fuels to stay alive.

00:01:05.680 That's what these UN Climate Change Conferences are all about.

00:01:09.520 I've been to a few of them myself.

00:01:11.200 I'm not going to this one this year, held in the United Arab Emirates,

00:01:16.600 one of the most expensive, exotic, and energy-intensive cities on the entire face of the earth

00:01:23.920 because of their onerous reporting restrictions.

00:01:27.960 I'm not allowed inside the conference because a few years ago,

00:01:32.320 I asked a prickly question to a Canadian delegate when the conference was held in Morocco

00:01:37.440 and I got, well, the entire company banned from the conferences in perpetuity.

00:01:44.740 And that ban came at the request of the Canadian delegation.

00:01:48.900 Yeah, they're censoring me in other countries now.

00:01:52.580 But because I'm not going to the conference,

00:01:55.180 I thought I would call in an expert on climate economics and policies.

00:01:59.900 And so joining me today in an interview I recorded earlier is Robert Lyman.

00:02:04.020 He's a contributor to the International Climate Science Coalition

00:02:07.240 and he's also a contributor at Friends of Science.

00:02:11.240 And he is a careful watcher of these sorts of things.

00:02:15.700 And he is able to break down just how much these bad ideas from these globalists

00:02:22.680 are going to cost your family.

00:02:25.200 Take a listen.

00:02:33.760 So joining me now is someone that I've never actually interviewed,

00:02:37.320 but I follow his work very closely through his roles with Friends of Science

00:02:41.680 and the International Climate Science Coalition.

00:02:44.260 So joining me now is Robert Lyman, also frequently published in the Financial Post.

00:02:50.820 Robert, thanks for joining me.

00:02:52.900 Usually around this time of the year, I check in with my fellow travelers

00:02:57.480 in this climate skeptic movement as we approach the UN Climate Change Summit.

00:03:04.220 Robert, how would you describe yourself?

00:03:08.580 Because, you know, as I was saying before we started rolling,

00:03:11.860 some of your greatest critics are people who watched Greta Thunberg

00:03:14.580 and decided the world was going to end.

00:03:16.660 But you actually have, I would say, a generation's worth of knowledge

00:03:21.180 on the issue of climate and economics.

00:03:24.620 So tell us a little bit about who and what you are.

00:03:28.780 Well, I'm a retired energy economist

00:03:30.720 and I'm also the chief economic advisor

00:03:34.880 for the International Climate Science Coalition Canada.

00:03:38.860 Over a 27-year career in the federal government,

00:03:45.880 I provided a great deal of analysis and policy advice to ministers

00:03:52.500 regarding climate issues and other energy and environmental issues.

00:03:58.000 I'm someone who cares deeply about the need for a fair and open public dialogue

00:04:09.460 on climate issues in Canada.

00:04:12.100 You know, and that really is the problem in all of this,

00:04:15.640 is that there's just this approved homogeneity of opinions

00:04:20.600 on issues around climate change, climate science.

00:04:24.200 Do taxes change the weather?

00:04:25.900 Are my emissions in my comfortable SUV going to kill all life on Earth as we know it?

00:04:32.260 It seems to be that hyperbole on issues of climate change,

00:04:37.360 as in, you know, we're on a doomsday clock,

00:04:39.980 those are the only accepted viewpoints.

00:04:43.680 And, you know, people like yourself,

00:04:45.860 people like my friend Tom Harris from the International Climate Science Coalition,

00:04:49.740 people like my friend Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science,

00:04:54.300 you are trying to take the hyperbole and hysteria out of the conversation

00:04:59.240 and being treated like heretics for it.

00:05:02.540 Well, that's right.

00:05:03.580 And my particular niche in that regard is the information and analysis

00:05:09.360 that I offer on climate policy,

00:05:12.680 that is how the government of Canada makes its decisions on climate,

00:05:15.740 and on the economics of climate.

00:05:20.300 That includes following the international developments,

00:05:25.100 such as those that are about to take place in Dubai,

00:05:29.660 of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.

00:05:34.300 So it's really all about bringing some facts and analysis to bear

00:05:40.760 on what is a highly politicized subject.

00:05:42.880 You know, and I'm so glad that you do,

00:05:46.020 because, yeah, there's just so much hysteria and feelings.

00:05:50.140 But, you know, the energy companies, you know, the natural gas company,

00:05:55.140 they don't take hysteria in the form of payment these days.

00:06:00.000 Now, you just wrote an article,

00:06:02.820 it was published this morning in the Financial Post,

00:06:06.360 breaking down the big numbers of what's called COP28,

00:06:09.940 that's government and global summit parlance for the annual meeting of the UN,

00:06:19.000 wherein they talk about their plans to control your life through climate policy.

00:06:24.900 Tell us a little bit about what we can find in your article.

00:06:29.200 I don't want to give too much away,

00:06:31.100 but you really tried to put into context

00:06:34.540 the scope of the dollars and cents of some of the bad ideas

00:06:38.020 that come out of the United Nations.

00:06:41.060 Well, my article was, in a sense,

00:06:44.640 a glimpse at one of the key issues that will be dealt with

00:06:48.140 during this climate conference,

00:06:50.440 which will start tomorrow

00:06:53.220 and will go till the 12th of December.

00:06:55.860 In trying to portray to people what's actually going on there,

00:07:01.980 I frequently find that people get confused by large numbers.

00:07:07.080 You know, they don't know what's the,

00:07:09.320 basically, what's the difference between a million, a billion, and a trillion.

00:07:14.220 And yet, understanding those differences are particularly important

00:07:18.160 to understand what this conference will talk about

00:07:21.160 in terms of the funding that is being asked by the developing countries

00:07:26.660 of the developed countries like Canada

00:07:29.440 to pay for their climate measures in the period from 2025 to 2030.

00:07:36.740 In short summary,

00:07:41.900 the developing countries are asking for $2 trillion per year

00:07:46.260 from the OECD countries.

00:07:50.300 And if you break that down in terms of the percentages

00:07:53.320 that would probably be asked from Canada,

00:07:56.760 that's about $78 billion a year

00:08:01.340 that Canada would be required to pay.

00:08:04.240 And that works out to just under $5,000 per Canadian household

00:08:10.880 that would be asked of us.

00:08:13.160 Now, and I thought getting the big numbers down

00:08:17.240 to a single number like that,

00:08:18.740 that a Canadian can grasp, was important.

00:08:23.880 And shocking.

00:08:25.300 I mean, we're in the middle of an inflationary crisis.

00:08:27.500 People can't afford food.

00:08:28.900 More people are using food banks than in recent history.

00:08:33.500 Housing prices are out of control.

00:08:37.600 People are, as my friend Michelle Sterling says,

00:08:40.040 faced in some instances with heat or eat poverty.

00:08:42.780 And the government is expecting us to pay $5,000 per household

00:08:46.820 to meet their arbitrary climate goals.

00:08:49.000 It's outrageous.

00:08:50.480 Well, that's what's being asked by the developing countries.

00:08:53.980 In fact, I think that it's almost impossible to imagine

00:08:59.160 that the governments of the OECD countries would agree to do that.

00:09:03.860 Because if they did, the reaction of their citizens,

00:09:07.660 as in Canada, would be to basically throw out of office

00:09:12.040 those who would agree to that.

00:09:14.800 You know, so that's the ask.

00:09:17.080 And it's an interesting question as to whether,

00:09:22.260 to tell you the truth, they're really serious about it.

00:09:24.940 Because it's so far beyond the pale that it may well be

00:09:30.080 that what they're doing is using that as a negotiating tactic

00:09:33.560 in the hopes that maybe they won't get $2 trillion,

00:09:37.960 but they'll get $1 trillion,

00:09:39.420 or they'll get some other extraordinarily large number.

00:09:41.900 So there's another possibility.

00:09:46.440 And that is that the developing countries

00:09:51.460 are under the terms of the UN agreement,

00:09:53.460 are not required to reduce their emissions

00:09:56.560 unless they get funded by the developed countries.

00:10:00.600 And so if, as is highly likely,

00:10:03.760 the developed countries refuse to provide that funding,

00:10:07.120 then that basically lets them off the hook.

00:10:09.400 They don't have to do any things to reduce emissions.

00:10:12.540 They really didn't want to do anyway.

00:10:15.900 Right, right.

00:10:18.080 Yes.

00:10:18.580 So make the ask so great that nobody's going to pay it.

00:10:21.660 So you just get to keep doing whatever you're doing.

00:10:24.080 And that's fine.

00:10:25.760 Now, I like how your answer presupposes

00:10:28.760 that Justin Trudeau would ask us

00:10:30.500 before he did anything to us.

00:10:33.060 Well, you may be aware that I recently spoke

00:10:38.860 at one of the Friends of Sciences annual conferences

00:10:42.040 in which I spoke on the theme of

00:10:44.420 when will climate policy hit the wall?

00:10:47.520 In other words, when will the costs

00:10:50.680 of the present federal government's climate policies

00:10:54.580 become so onerous

00:10:56.060 that Canadians will simply react against it

00:11:00.180 and vote out of office to whatever government

00:11:02.560 is responsible for that.

00:11:04.600 And that's a very long story.

00:11:06.460 But as I'm sure you're aware,

00:11:08.100 the costs that are being imposed on Canadians

00:11:10.980 are very high indeed.

00:11:14.100 Yeah, and I think we might almost be there.

00:11:17.520 And I think that has to do with,

00:11:19.660 you know, that would explain

00:11:21.000 Justin Trudeau's carve out

00:11:22.560 of home heating oil

00:11:24.060 in Atlantic Canada from the carbon tax.

00:11:26.840 Because I think that was going to be

00:11:29.580 what might break the liberal stronghold

00:11:32.700 on Atlantic Canada,

00:11:33.980 just the cost of living.

00:11:36.240 But getting back to this climate conference

00:11:39.280 in the UAE,

00:11:40.460 I've gone to some of these things.

00:11:42.360 I've run into Tom Harris

00:11:43.600 while I was there a couple of times.

00:11:45.520 This year, I'm unable to go

00:11:47.500 because I'm banned from the UN

00:11:49.040 from reporting inside of their conferences.

00:11:52.820 Thanks to the Canadian government

00:11:54.940 complaining about my prickly,

00:11:56.820 skeptical questions back in Morocco.

00:12:00.800 But, and the UAE has some strong restrictions

00:12:06.200 on reporting,

00:12:08.460 unauthorized reporting inside their country.

00:12:11.240 So I just didn't think it was worth risking

00:12:13.200 an Emirati prison sentence

00:12:15.820 to report on Stephen Gilbeau.

00:12:19.240 However, some interesting developments

00:12:21.380 are coming out of the UAE already.

00:12:22.980 And Alberta is doing something similar.

00:12:26.300 I saw yesterday.

00:12:28.120 They are happy to take

00:12:31.080 the United Nations money

00:12:33.760 and all that goes along with it

00:12:36.100 to host one of these conferences

00:12:37.780 that can bring in up to like

00:12:39.340 100,000 people into a city.

00:12:42.720 But they're also

00:12:44.000 considering making oil and gas deals

00:12:47.180 on the side.

00:12:48.000 Since all the countries are there

00:12:50.320 and all the diplomats are there,

00:12:51.880 why not take advantage of it

00:12:53.020 and pursue some oil and gas deals,

00:12:54.920 including LNG with China?

00:12:56.560 I thought, pretty cheeky

00:12:58.720 what they're up to

00:12:59.980 undermining their own conference.

00:13:03.980 Well, that's right.

00:13:05.320 I mean, I estimate that

00:13:07.460 the cost that will be incurred

00:13:10.160 by all of the 70,000 participants

00:13:13.820 at this conference

00:13:14.960 will be something in the order

00:13:17.200 of $460 million.

00:13:19.480 You know, that's spent

00:13:20.580 on hotels and restaurants

00:13:23.660 and other expenses

00:13:25.740 that they have getting there

00:13:27.700 and so on.

00:13:28.760 So there is a real financial benefit

00:13:31.700 to Dubai

00:13:32.920 and having the conference held there.

00:13:34.520 But the conference organizers

00:13:37.900 are very shrewd people.

00:13:41.200 They know where their economic interest lies.

00:13:45.340 And while they are nominally

00:13:47.740 on the side of phasing out

00:13:51.040 oil production,

00:13:55.160 they have no intention of doing that

00:13:57.740 within the United Arab Emirates.

00:13:59.760 That is one of their most important assets

00:14:03.100 for the future economic development

00:14:04.840 of their people.

00:14:06.180 And they don't plan to give that up.

00:14:09.640 You know, it's nice to see.

00:14:11.100 It's something Poland did,

00:14:14.380 something similarly

00:14:15.380 when they held the conference

00:14:16.460 in Katowice.

00:14:18.600 They put the,

00:14:20.420 I mean, again,

00:14:21.380 you're happy to take the UN's money,

00:14:23.180 take the tourism dollars,

00:14:24.520 but they put the conference

00:14:25.640 right next door

00:14:26.260 to the Coal Miners Museum.

00:14:27.780 And then they opened the conference

00:14:29.400 with the Coal Miners Marching Band.

00:14:30.960 And I thought, you know what?

00:14:32.460 That's some high-level trolling.

00:14:33.960 I kind of admire that.

00:14:35.980 And I know the Alberta government

00:14:37.960 is doing something similar

00:14:39.280 to what the Trump administration did

00:14:42.020 at the Bonn Germany conference.

00:14:44.880 So the Trump administration

00:14:46.080 sent a very pro-oil and gas delegation,

00:14:49.720 set up a pro-oil and gas pavilion

00:14:51.540 at the United Nations Climate Change Conference.

00:14:54.620 This year, it sounds like

00:14:55.480 the Alberta government

00:14:56.260 is doing much the same thing,

00:14:58.520 saying that innovation

00:15:00.100 is the way forward

00:15:01.040 to reduced emissions

00:15:02.140 and through cleaner extraction

00:15:05.860 of oil and gas,

00:15:07.600 through natural gas.

00:15:10.440 And so it sounds like

00:15:11.580 they're sending

00:15:12.060 a 100-person delegation,

00:15:13.540 which frightens me

00:15:14.400 as a fiscal conservative.

00:15:16.340 But if they're going there

00:15:17.600 to promote Alberta oil and gas,

00:15:19.620 I'm not as upset about it

00:15:21.260 as I normally would be.

00:15:22.240 Well, that's right.

00:15:24.340 It's a wise move.

00:15:25.520 I mean, you have to remember

00:15:26.760 that this is supposedly

00:15:29.820 an international conference

00:15:31.580 of diplomats and government leaders

00:15:35.080 that are there to negotiate an agreement.

00:15:39.160 I spent 10 years

00:15:40.440 in the Canadian Foreign Service,

00:15:41.760 and I can tell you

00:15:42.580 that most international conferences

00:15:44.200 do not have 70,000 people

00:15:46.660 involved in them.

00:15:48.020 What is involved here

00:15:49.500 is more theater

00:15:51.420 than international climate conferences.

00:15:55.540 And every one of the literally thousands

00:15:59.580 of organizations that are there

00:16:01.400 is there to put on a show

00:16:04.220 and to tell their own story

00:16:05.980 and how appropriate it is

00:16:08.300 that Alberta is there

00:16:09.520 to tell its story

00:16:10.720 and hopefully get a little bit

00:16:13.160 of media attention as well.

00:16:14.580 I hope they make

00:16:16.980 all kinds of enemies

00:16:18.280 while they're there.

00:16:20.700 Daniel Smith already is,

00:16:22.160 and I just can't get enough of it.

00:16:24.740 Now, as is always the case

00:16:26.740 at these things,

00:16:27.620 there's lots of talk

00:16:28.520 about renewables,

00:16:29.880 which I think makes sense

00:16:31.800 if you live

00:16:32.560 in some equatorial place,

00:16:34.720 but it gets dark

00:16:36.060 where I live before 4 p.m.

00:16:38.600 And yet there's this constant push

00:16:40.260 for renewables

00:16:40.900 coming out of these

00:16:41.760 United Nations

00:16:42.460 climate change conferences.

00:16:43.540 What can we expect

00:16:45.100 from this latest one?

00:16:48.080 Well, the goal of the conference

00:16:50.300 with respect to renewables

00:16:51.640 is to double the share

00:16:55.500 that renewables have

00:16:56.860 of electricity generation

00:16:58.320 in the world.

00:17:00.080 And ideally to triple it.

00:17:06.580 the, and of course,

00:17:10.020 the ways that they want

00:17:10.900 to do that

00:17:11.460 is through increasing

00:17:13.620 yet again

00:17:15.020 the subsidies

00:17:15.900 that the member countries

00:17:17.220 provide for renewable

00:17:18.840 energy production

00:17:19.660 and to ensure

00:17:23.520 that the,

00:17:25.520 all the countries

00:17:26.340 of the world

00:17:27.060 begin through regulatory

00:17:28.880 and taxation measures

00:17:30.100 to reduce the use

00:17:31.440 of coal and natural gas

00:17:32.640 and electricity.

00:17:33.220 So it's a carrot

00:17:34.800 and a stick

00:17:35.340 type of approach

00:17:36.460 that they're adopting.

00:17:39.760 I think that

00:17:40.860 as is so much

00:17:41.940 the case

00:17:42.400 with these sorts

00:17:43.000 of conferences,

00:17:43.560 there will be a lot

00:17:44.340 of lip service

00:17:45.080 paid to that goal.

00:17:46.820 But in the real world,

00:17:51.780 although some $2 trillion

00:17:56.480 has been spent

00:17:58.180 on renewable energy

00:17:59.220 investments

00:17:59.700 over the course

00:18:00.360 of the last eight years

00:18:02.320 in the world,

00:18:03.500 it still only represents

00:18:05.480 about 4% to 5%

00:18:08.380 of the world's

00:18:09.420 energy consumption.

00:18:11.540 So it's not going

00:18:13.480 to replace hydrocarbons.

00:18:16.880 And the countries

00:18:19.500 of the world

00:18:20.260 that are most quickly

00:18:23.260 growing their greenhouse

00:18:24.420 gas emissions

00:18:25.220 are basically

00:18:26.020 the countries

00:18:26.680 of Asia

00:18:27.740 and so on.

00:18:28.700 And they know

00:18:30.940 that their economic

00:18:32.860 development,

00:18:33.640 the welfare

00:18:34.200 and standard

00:18:35.060 of living

00:18:35.500 of their people

00:18:36.580 is dependent

00:18:37.640 upon them

00:18:38.520 having access

00:18:39.280 to cheap,

00:18:40.300 affordable,

00:18:40.900 and secure

00:18:41.480 energy supplies.

00:18:42.860 And that's

00:18:43.560 not renewables.

00:18:45.900 That is a uniform

00:18:47.720 statement.

00:18:48.500 That's an evergreen

00:18:49.320 statement.

00:18:49.760 You can say that

00:18:50.400 about Asia,

00:18:51.160 but you can say

00:18:51.720 that about Canada too.

00:18:53.400 There's also

00:18:54.360 a push for,

00:18:56.760 in your note

00:18:57.400 you sent me,

00:18:58.440 scaling up accountability.

00:18:59.760 That horrifies me

00:19:01.200 because that means

00:19:02.320 that someone

00:19:02.780 is going to be

00:19:03.500 the watchdog

00:19:04.620 making sure

00:19:06.800 that sovereign nations

00:19:08.820 impose these

00:19:09.800 UN targets

00:19:10.500 on their people.

00:19:11.180 Yes,

00:19:12.700 it's that

00:19:13.320 scaling up

00:19:14.940 accountability

00:19:15.400 is code.

00:19:16.400 It's a code

00:19:16.900 for having

00:19:18.420 the United Nations

00:19:19.520 as an organization

00:19:21.080 have a much

00:19:22.900 more intrusive

00:19:24.020 role

00:19:24.480 in its ability

00:19:25.600 to what they

00:19:26.940 call coordinate

00:19:27.740 and regulate

00:19:28.800 the global

00:19:29.680 climate change

00:19:31.100 effort.

00:19:32.480 What they would

00:19:36.060 like to do

00:19:36.600 ideally

00:19:37.100 is to create

00:19:38.280 a situation

00:19:38.960 where,

00:19:40.180 as is done

00:19:41.120 in the case

00:19:41.560 of the International

00:19:42.140 Energy Agency,

00:19:44.280 the countries

00:19:45.960 of the world

00:19:46.600 would be subject

00:19:47.940 to being

00:19:48.820 reviewed

00:19:49.760 every five years

00:19:51.140 as to their

00:19:51.760 performance

00:19:52.460 in attaining

00:19:53.380 the greenhouse

00:19:54.660 gas emissions.

00:19:56.220 The review

00:19:57.540 would be done

00:19:58.300 by a delegation

00:19:59.900 of what they

00:20:01.240 would call

00:20:01.580 energy experts,

00:20:02.700 which are mainly

00:20:04.440 guided by

00:20:05.640 the officials

00:20:08.000 of the United

00:20:08.840 Nations.

00:20:09.900 They produced

00:20:10.760 these reports

00:20:11.400 and they would

00:20:11.800 inevitably,

00:20:13.000 in the case

00:20:13.620 of a country

00:20:14.160 like Canada,

00:20:15.260 be a very

00:20:15.820 damning

00:20:16.360 condemnation

00:20:17.220 of what

00:20:17.620 our efforts

00:20:18.140 are.

00:20:19.020 That would

00:20:19.700 be intended

00:20:20.220 essentially

00:20:20.800 to embarrass

00:20:21.440 the Canadian

00:20:22.060 government

00:20:22.540 and to urge

00:20:23.540 it to do

00:20:23.980 more.

00:20:25.420 Part of what

00:20:26.140 they're also

00:20:26.700 proposing

00:20:27.180 is to have

00:20:27.780 more frequent

00:20:28.800 conferences

00:20:29.780 at the summit

00:20:31.060 level.

00:20:31.480 Now,

00:20:31.600 they already

00:20:31.940 have one a

00:20:32.520 year,

00:20:32.920 as you know,

00:20:34.180 but what people

00:20:34.840 generally don't

00:20:35.840 know is that

00:20:36.960 between those

00:20:38.020 major annual

00:20:39.000 conferences,

00:20:39.560 there are over

00:20:40.380 1,000 other

00:20:41.900 conferences that

00:20:43.140 are held by

00:20:43.740 the United

00:20:44.120 Nations in

00:20:45.160 order to try

00:20:45.780 to generate

00:20:47.920 as much

00:20:48.620 climate-related

00:20:50.240 activity as

00:20:50.960 they can.

00:20:51.660 And they want

00:20:52.060 to do more

00:20:52.540 of that,

00:20:53.640 amazingly.

00:20:55.380 Yeah,

00:20:56.200 if it were

00:20:56.860 possible,

00:20:57.740 just sending

00:20:58.300 bureaucrats all

00:20:59.280 over the world

00:21:00.060 to these opulent

00:21:01.600 climate shindigs.

00:21:02.800 They never hold

00:21:03.240 this stuff in

00:21:03.740 red deer.

00:21:04.220 That's for

00:21:05.860 sure.

00:21:07.920 Well,

00:21:08.360 my son lives

00:21:09.880 in Yellowknife,

00:21:10.620 so I'm kind of

00:21:11.320 encouraging them

00:21:12.240 to go there

00:21:12.760 sometime.

00:21:14.800 Same,

00:21:15.180 same,

00:21:15.620 yeah.

00:21:18.040 And,

00:21:18.540 you know,

00:21:19.220 there's also

00:21:20.200 this,

00:21:20.900 to use the

00:21:21.520 language of the

00:21:22.040 left,

00:21:22.340 and I loathe

00:21:23.140 to do so,

00:21:23.780 but intersectionality

00:21:25.420 of all these

00:21:26.020 other issues

00:21:26.860 that the UN

00:21:28.000 has their

00:21:28.580 tentacles in

00:21:29.400 and linking

00:21:30.800 it back to

00:21:31.340 climate change.

00:21:32.580 One of the

00:21:33.320 key subjects

00:21:35.600 of the

00:21:36.260 most recent

00:21:36.940 biodiversity

00:21:37.520 conference that

00:21:38.760 was held

00:21:39.080 in Quebec,

00:21:40.660 it was all

00:21:41.840 about climate

00:21:42.420 change.

00:21:42.920 You know,

00:21:43.060 you go there

00:21:43.500 to learn about

00:21:44.080 biodiversity

00:21:44.640 and address,

00:21:45.520 you know,

00:21:45.800 dwindling species

00:21:46.580 or habitat

00:21:47.620 preservation,

00:21:48.080 and it's all

00:21:49.180 climate change.

00:21:49.880 That's all they

00:21:50.420 want to talk

00:21:50.920 about.

00:21:51.580 So it's not

00:21:52.680 just the

00:21:53.300 in-between

00:21:53.980 climate change

00:21:55.260 conferences,

00:21:55.700 it's all the

00:21:56.300 other conferences

00:21:57.000 that they make

00:21:57.660 about climate

00:21:58.120 change,

00:21:58.580 too.

00:21:59.180 Yeah,

00:21:59.440 for a number

00:22:00.200 of years,

00:22:00.880 the United

00:22:01.740 Nations has

00:22:02.860 been trying

00:22:03.520 to draw

00:22:04.080 a direct

00:22:04.680 linkage between

00:22:06.160 what they call

00:22:07.520 the biodiversity

00:22:08.220 or the nature

00:22:09.620 issues and

00:22:10.980 those of climate

00:22:11.700 change.

00:22:12.700 And I think

00:22:13.280 the reason for

00:22:14.020 that is that

00:22:14.940 the climate

00:22:16.040 change issue

00:22:16.820 has been

00:22:17.220 remarkably

00:22:17.780 successful in

00:22:19.220 garnering

00:22:20.140 financial support

00:22:21.880 from governments

00:22:22.740 around the world,

00:22:23.700 while the

00:22:24.800 biodiversity issues

00:22:26.080 has basically

00:22:27.620 not been able

00:22:29.240 to raise that

00:22:29.760 much money

00:22:30.180 at all.

00:22:30.920 Once you

00:22:31.560 draw this

00:22:32.180 link between

00:22:33.200 improving

00:22:35.300 or reducing

00:22:37.640 greenhouse gas

00:22:38.300 emissions and

00:22:38.980 improving the

00:22:39.820 quality of the

00:22:42.040 natural environment,

00:22:43.520 you open the

00:22:44.180 door to a much

00:22:44.780 higher level of

00:22:45.620 funding for that.

00:22:47.920 Unfortunately,

00:22:48.620 this really hasn't

00:22:49.300 worked for them

00:22:49.920 all that well in

00:22:50.540 the past,

00:22:51.020 because as you

00:22:51.960 know,

00:22:52.180 for many years,

00:22:52.980 the polar bears

00:22:54.300 were the poster

00:22:55.760 child of climate

00:22:56.920 issues.

00:22:57.520 The problem

00:22:57.820 with the polar

00:22:58.360 bears is their

00:22:59.120 population is

00:22:59.920 constantly growing.

00:23:01.760 And so it's

00:23:03.120 just not

00:23:03.620 working.

00:23:05.480 And it will

00:23:07.960 remain to be

00:23:11.020 seen how far

00:23:12.140 they get in

00:23:12.700 actually getting

00:23:14.100 people to put

00:23:15.060 more funding

00:23:15.640 into biodiversity

00:23:18.020 issues.

00:23:18.940 I doubt that it

00:23:19.720 will be very

00:23:20.180 much at all.

00:23:22.320 Yeah, I've

00:23:22.880 seen them do

00:23:23.400 this too with

00:23:24.100 migration and

00:23:25.280 wars.

00:23:25.980 They say,

00:23:26.460 you know,

00:23:26.720 like these

00:23:27.080 things,

00:23:27.540 the underlying

00:23:27.940 cause of

00:23:28.720 these things

00:23:29.380 is climate

00:23:30.280 change.

00:23:30.700 So give us

00:23:31.220 more money.

00:23:31.620 If you don't

00:23:32.260 want to see

00:23:33.000 children starve

00:23:34.340 to death

00:23:34.940 or, you

00:23:36.440 know,

00:23:36.700 kids in refugee

00:23:37.580 camps,

00:23:38.060 then you have

00:23:38.380 to give us

00:23:38.720 more money

00:23:39.160 to combat

00:23:39.680 climate change.

00:23:40.640 That's always

00:23:41.400 what it comes

00:23:42.060 down to.

00:23:43.260 Robert,

00:23:43.900 is there

00:23:44.500 anything new

00:23:45.620 that is going

00:23:46.420 to come out

00:23:47.000 of this

00:23:47.420 climate change

00:23:48.340 conference?

00:23:48.720 Is it going

00:23:49.000 to be like

00:23:49.400 the Paris

00:23:49.820 Accord

00:23:50.220 where it's

00:23:50.820 this big,

00:23:51.440 you know,

00:23:53.080 agreement that

00:23:53.780 we all sign

00:23:54.280 on to and

00:23:54.820 then all

00:23:55.860 of a sudden

00:23:56.220 I have

00:23:57.380 to have

00:23:58.040 a net

00:23:58.940 zero car

00:23:59.500 by 2035

00:24:00.560 according to

00:24:01.560 Justin Trudeau or

00:24:02.280 is it just

00:24:02.680 going to be

00:24:03.020 more of the

00:24:03.580 same,

00:24:04.180 just an

00:24:04.480 expensive party

00:24:05.360 that bureaucrats

00:24:06.640 and government

00:24:07.260 officials throw

00:24:08.100 for themselves?

00:24:10.440 Well,

00:24:10.940 I think you

00:24:11.360 have to

00:24:11.720 distinguish

00:24:12.140 between what

00:24:12.880 happens at

00:24:14.120 the conference

00:24:14.800 and what

00:24:16.240 happens on

00:24:17.800 the margins

00:24:18.280 of the

00:24:18.660 conference and

00:24:19.560 in the

00:24:20.120 national

00:24:20.980 capitals.

00:24:22.620 I don't

00:24:23.400 think that

00:24:24.080 there will

00:24:24.560 be any

00:24:25.200 dramatic

00:24:26.380 new

00:24:26.700 breakthroughs

00:24:27.380 at the

00:24:27.660 conference.

00:24:28.340 There will

00:24:28.740 be a

00:24:29.780 number of

00:24:30.260 countries

00:24:30.620 that will

00:24:31.300 announce

00:24:32.240 new

00:24:32.500 initiatives,

00:24:33.260 new targets

00:24:34.280 that they

00:24:35.400 will propose

00:24:36.200 to adopt.

00:24:37.140 They've been

00:24:37.540 doing that

00:24:38.080 for years

00:24:38.740 and no

00:24:39.420 country

00:24:40.420 apart from

00:24:41.040 a few

00:24:41.340 in Europe

00:24:41.680 has ever

00:24:42.160 retained

00:24:42.540 the targets.

00:24:43.360 So there's

00:24:43.540 no political

00:24:44.080 downside to

00:24:44.960 announcing

00:24:45.360 new targets.

00:24:48.080 But as

00:24:50.080 I said

00:24:50.480 earlier,

00:24:50.980 this is

00:24:51.600 all

00:24:51.820 theatre and

00:24:52.640 the audience

00:24:54.060 for the

00:24:54.460 theatre is

00:24:55.000 not the

00:24:55.440 people who

00:24:55.880 live in

00:24:56.220 Dubai.

00:24:56.600 The audience

00:24:57.100 for this

00:24:57.500 theatre are

00:24:57.940 the people

00:24:58.320 who live

00:24:58.720 in the

00:24:59.420 OECD

00:25:00.020 countries.

00:25:01.140 So what

00:25:01.880 they basically

00:25:02.980 hope to do

00:25:03.580 is to raise

00:25:04.340 the profile

00:25:05.180 of climate

00:25:06.540 alarmism and

00:25:08.180 to put across

00:25:09.740 the case that

00:25:10.580 you see the

00:25:11.340 whole world is

00:25:12.260 concerned about

00:25:12.900 this and

00:25:13.680 therefore countries

00:25:15.160 like Canada

00:25:15.800 must do

00:25:16.540 more.

00:25:17.480 And it'll

00:25:17.960 support the

00:25:18.600 case that the

00:25:19.540 Trudeau

00:25:19.880 government and

00:25:20.760 many provincial

00:25:21.380 governments are

00:25:22.100 already trying

00:25:22.800 to make

00:25:23.180 that more

00:25:25.380 action is

00:25:25.980 needed, more

00:25:26.500 expenditures are

00:25:27.560 needed.

00:25:29.040 And one

00:25:30.540 particular issue

00:25:31.600 is that

00:25:32.660 with respect

00:25:34.520 to emissions

00:25:37.460 from oil

00:25:38.640 and gas,

00:25:40.300 the conference

00:25:43.040 will try to

00:25:43.720 achieve agreement

00:25:44.560 on the

00:25:45.100 notion that

00:25:45.920 there should

00:25:48.660 be a phasing

00:25:49.380 out of oil

00:25:50.440 and gas.

00:25:51.540 Now,

00:25:51.800 countries like

00:25:52.660 Russia,

00:25:54.720 Saudi Arabia,

00:25:55.760 and others

00:25:56.040 may agree

00:25:57.720 to phase

00:25:58.920 down oil

00:25:59.920 and gas

00:26:00.260 production.

00:26:01.260 But other

00:26:01.640 countries will

00:26:02.240 say, well,

00:26:02.840 no, really,

00:26:03.500 there is a way

00:26:04.160 to go on

00:26:04.700 producing oil

00:26:05.320 and gas

00:26:05.720 while reducing

00:26:06.620 the emissions

00:26:07.260 and things

00:26:08.400 like carbon

00:26:09.160 dioxide capture

00:26:10.000 and storage.

00:26:10.620 The United

00:26:12.540 Nations staff

00:26:13.720 is 100%

00:26:14.840 opposed to

00:26:15.380 that.

00:26:16.040 Then they

00:26:16.400 will do

00:26:16.800 everything that

00:26:17.420 they can to

00:26:18.000 discredit the

00:26:18.840 notion that

00:26:19.780 carbon dioxide

00:26:20.380 capture and

00:26:21.060 storage is a

00:26:21.680 viable way of

00:26:23.040 proceeding with

00:26:23.680 respect to

00:26:24.280 hydrocarbon

00:26:25.140 related emissions.

00:26:26.380 that won't

00:26:28.680 play at all

00:26:29.400 in other

00:26:29.860 countries,

00:26:30.380 but it

00:26:30.600 might play

00:26:31.360 well in

00:26:31.880 Canada.

00:26:32.840 And the

00:26:34.160 Trudeau government

00:26:34.960 has still not

00:26:35.760 finalized its

00:26:37.120 taxation regime

00:26:38.520 that applies,

00:26:39.260 the incentives

00:26:39.900 that they had

00:26:40.420 promised they

00:26:41.220 would give

00:26:41.580 for carbon

00:26:42.000 dioxide

00:26:42.340 capture and

00:26:43.020 storage.

00:26:43.940 And depending

00:26:44.340 what comes

00:26:44.820 out of the

00:26:45.160 conference,

00:26:45.700 it may make

00:26:46.300 them move

00:26:47.880 even more

00:26:48.940 slowly or

00:26:49.880 perhaps not

00:26:50.640 proceed that way

00:26:51.580 at all.

00:26:52.220 So that's

00:26:52.580 the thing I'm

00:26:53.120 worried about

00:26:53.660 coming out of

00:26:54.200 the conference.

00:26:56.380 Robert, tell

00:26:58.560 us where

00:26:58.920 people can

00:26:59.520 see some of

00:27:00.280 the very

00:27:00.680 important work

00:27:01.640 you do.

00:27:02.380 If people

00:27:02.860 will go on

00:27:03.620 to the

00:27:04.080 website of

00:27:05.400 the Friends

00:27:06.220 of Science

00:27:06.760 Society and

00:27:08.260 particularly look

00:27:09.040 at their

00:27:09.340 blog, they

00:27:11.060 will be able

00:27:11.720 to find

00:27:12.160 almost 300

00:27:13.300 articles that

00:27:14.300 I've published

00:27:15.280 there over the

00:27:15.980 course of the

00:27:16.640 last five

00:27:17.780 years.

00:27:19.340 And I

00:27:20.540 also have

00:27:22.500 published a

00:27:23.520 number of

00:27:24.480 papers with

00:27:26.220 the Global

00:27:27.020 Warming Policy

00:27:28.120 Foundation in

00:27:28.940 the United

00:27:29.260 Kingdom.

00:27:31.660 They have

00:27:32.440 a special

00:27:34.100 edition that

00:27:35.220 they call

00:27:35.540 Net Zero

00:27:36.120 Watch.

00:27:36.900 And if

00:27:37.940 people look

00:27:38.460 up those

00:27:38.820 terms, Global

00:27:39.400 Warming Policy

00:27:40.140 Foundation or

00:27:40.920 Net Zero

00:27:41.360 Watch, they'll

00:27:42.540 see some of

00:27:43.280 the longer

00:27:43.780 and more

00:27:45.020 analytical

00:27:45.400 pieces that

00:27:46.080 I provide.

00:27:47.900 Yeah, I

00:27:48.720 really do

00:27:49.120 appreciate your

00:27:51.240 work because

00:27:51.940 you arm

00:27:52.720 people with

00:27:53.660 facts that

00:27:54.740 they can take

00:27:55.280 out into the

00:27:55.840 world.

00:27:56.600 People are

00:27:57.420 too busy

00:27:58.000 just trying

00:27:58.680 to pay

00:27:58.940 their bills

00:27:59.480 to become

00:28:00.800 experts in

00:28:02.180 climate

00:28:02.840 economics and

00:28:03.780 you really

00:28:04.560 distill things

00:28:05.260 down to the

00:28:05.680 key points so

00:28:06.640 you can really

00:28:07.080 understand what

00:28:07.840 these bad

00:28:08.700 ideas mean for

00:28:09.540 your family's

00:28:10.080 bottom line.

00:28:11.200 Robert, I

00:28:11.620 really appreciate

00:28:12.320 it.

00:28:12.540 Thanks so much

00:28:13.060 for coming on

00:28:13.600 the show and

00:28:14.260 will you agree

00:28:15.520 to come back

00:28:16.060 on again very

00:28:16.680 soon?

00:28:17.340 I'd be

00:28:17.740 delighted.

00:28:18.760 And thank

00:28:19.200 you.

00:28:19.800 Thanks,

00:28:20.240 Rob.

00:28:20.340 So we've

00:28:27.920 come to the

00:28:28.300 portion of the

00:28:28.720 show where I

00:28:29.320 invite your

00:28:29.860 viewer feedback.

00:28:30.800 I say it

00:28:31.120 every week so

00:28:31.700 I know this

00:28:32.600 is getting old

00:28:33.340 for the regular

00:28:34.000 viewers but we

00:28:34.740 are getting new

00:28:35.540 people watching

00:28:37.040 the show all

00:28:37.580 the time so

00:28:38.100 just bear with

00:28:38.780 me as I

00:28:39.400 say we rely

00:28:41.240 on our

00:28:41.880 viewers because

00:28:42.600 we'll never

00:28:43.060 take a penny

00:28:43.600 from Justin

00:28:44.200 Trudeau and

00:28:45.060 that's why I

00:28:45.980 invite you to

00:28:46.880 let me know

00:28:47.480 what you think

00:28:48.160 about the work

00:28:48.760 that we do

00:28:49.220 here at

00:28:49.560 Rebel News.

00:28:50.480 One of the

00:28:50.840 ways you can

00:28:51.260 do that is

00:28:51.820 to send me

00:28:52.260 an email.

00:28:53.100 It's

00:28:53.200 sheila at

00:28:53.680 rebelnews.com

00:28:54.780 put gun show

00:28:55.420 letters in the

00:28:56.000 subject line so

00:28:57.480 it's easier for

00:28:58.140 me to find I'm

00:28:58.720 not being lazy.

00:28:59.580 I just get a

00:29:00.060 bunch of

00:29:00.320 emails every

00:29:00.880 single day like

00:29:01.740 dozens if not

00:29:04.140 like a hundred

00:29:05.000 or so depending

00:29:06.100 on what sort of

00:29:06.820 controversial thing

00:29:07.600 I've said that

00:29:08.100 day to make the

00:29:08.840 entire internet

00:29:09.480 angry with me.

00:29:11.480 Or you could

00:29:12.680 leave a comment

00:29:14.320 on one of the

00:29:16.080 platforms wherein

00:29:16.940 you are watching

00:29:17.660 us here at

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00:29:18.960 For example

00:29:19.620 if you are

00:29:20.340 watching a free

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00:29:21.880 show and you're

00:29:23.080 willing to sit

00:29:23.540 through a couple

00:29:24.280 of ads I

00:29:24.900 appreciate you

00:29:25.560 for that on

00:29:27.120 YouTube or

00:29:28.480 Rumble leave a

00:29:30.040 comment over

00:29:30.580 there.

00:29:31.180 I frequently go

00:29:32.300 looking over

00:29:32.880 there for your

00:29:34.980 thoughtful and

00:29:36.600 concise commentary

00:29:38.400 on my work

00:29:39.920 here at Rebel

00:29:40.780 News.

00:29:41.380 Now today's

00:29:42.160 letter comes to

00:29:43.720 us on last

00:29:45.320 week's show with

00:29:46.420 my friend

00:29:47.200 oil sands

00:29:48.380 activist and

00:29:50.540 the man

00:29:53.200 behind oil

00:29:54.900 and gas

00:29:55.400 world magazine

00:29:56.760 and oil

00:29:57.760 sands strong

00:29:58.700 Robbie

00:29:59.260 Picard and

00:30:01.380 the letter is

00:30:02.880 from Vince who

00:30:03.760 offers a

00:30:04.600 correction and

00:30:05.240 I'm glad he

00:30:06.800 sent this to me

00:30:07.540 because it is a

00:30:08.560 good lesson for

00:30:09.140 me to be a

00:30:09.720 little bit more

00:30:10.440 precise in my

00:30:11.860 language.

00:30:12.300 The outcome

00:30:13.560 is still the

00:30:14.360 same but I

00:30:14.780 should I

00:30:15.280 should frankly

00:30:16.180 be precise in

00:30:17.700 my language and

00:30:18.260 I'm glad that

00:30:19.540 Vince sent this

00:30:20.220 correction because

00:30:21.080 I want to make

00:30:22.500 sure that you

00:30:22.960 are all using

00:30:23.920 the same

00:30:24.620 appropriate

00:30:26.260 facts here.

00:30:29.160 So Vince

00:30:29.620 writes,

00:30:30.340 Hi Sheila,

00:30:30.740 just listened to

00:30:31.220 your excellent

00:30:31.700 show with

00:30:32.160 Robbie Picard and

00:30:34.000 would like to

00:30:34.540 correct you on a

00:30:35.220 few comments

00:30:35.660 you made regarding

00:30:36.300 Saskatchewan's

00:30:36.960 plans for the

00:30:37.500 carbon tax.

00:30:39.300 Vince, thank

00:30:40.360 you for putting

00:30:40.880 the criticism in

00:30:42.160 a compliment

00:30:42.680 sandwich.

00:30:44.780 I see you

00:30:45.620 maybe have

00:30:46.040 worked in

00:30:46.380 HR before.

00:30:48.660 Several times

00:30:49.460 you mentioned

00:30:49.840 that the

00:30:50.180 Saskatchewan

00:30:50.620 government won't

00:30:51.300 remit the

00:30:52.040 carbon tax to

00:30:52.820 Ottawa.

00:30:54.280 What the

00:30:54.860 Saskatchewan

00:30:55.320 government plans

00:30:55.980 to do is not

00:30:56.660 collect the

00:30:57.500 tax on natural

00:30:58.400 gas which will

00:30:59.180 reduce costs for

00:31:00.020 Saskatchewan

00:31:00.500 residents.

00:31:01.380 Thank you,

00:31:02.040 that is right.

00:31:02.920 So Saskatchewan

00:31:03.720 is not collecting

00:31:05.740 the carbon tax on

00:31:07.500 home heating

00:31:08.020 through their

00:31:08.740 crown corporation

00:31:09.680 Sask Power.

00:31:12.160 They're not

00:31:12.440 collecting it

00:31:12.940 which of

00:31:13.280 course is the

00:31:14.500 whole plan.

00:31:15.220 They don't want

00:31:15.500 to collect the

00:31:16.100 carbon tax

00:31:16.700 because to

00:31:17.780 collect it and

00:31:18.320 not remit it

00:31:19.000 doesn't save the

00:31:20.180 consumer any

00:31:20.840 money.

00:31:22.440 I should have

00:31:23.220 been more

00:31:23.620 exacting in my

00:31:24.480 language and I'm

00:31:25.120 happy for the

00:31:26.060 correction.

00:31:27.220 And then he

00:31:27.580 advised me to

00:31:28.120 see the Reuters

00:31:28.700 article titled

00:31:29.940 Saskatchewan vows to

00:31:30.900 stop collecting and

00:31:31.860 submitting the carbon

00:31:32.600 tax on natural

00:31:33.660 gas dated October

00:31:34.560 30th, 2023,

00:31:36.100 among others.

00:31:36.600 Your comments

00:31:38.060 could lead the

00:31:38.520 audience to

00:31:38.980 believe that the

00:31:39.400 government will

00:31:39.880 continue to

00:31:40.440 collect the tax

00:31:41.000 but not remit

00:31:41.640 the funds to

00:31:42.180 Ottawa.

00:31:42.620 Yes, you're

00:31:43.680 right.

00:31:44.220 I take the

00:31:44.780 correction.

00:31:45.240 I'm glad to

00:31:45.720 have it.

00:31:46.100 You see that?

00:31:47.300 Send me a

00:31:48.080 thoughtful correction

00:31:48.880 and I'm happy to

00:31:50.460 set the record

00:31:51.080 straight on air.

00:31:52.920 I get some less

00:31:55.280 than thoughtful

00:31:55.920 corrections sometimes

00:31:56.880 that are actually

00:31:57.540 not corrections at

00:31:58.300 all but just

00:31:58.780 basically people

00:32:00.080 telling me to

00:32:00.600 shut up because

00:32:01.100 they disagree with

00:32:01.820 me.

00:32:02.640 Good argument,

00:32:03.680 guys.

00:32:04.060 Anyway, this was a

00:32:05.720 great correction.

00:32:06.400 I'm happy to

00:32:06.840 read it on air.

00:32:07.700 Let's keep going

00:32:08.680 regarding the

00:32:09.680 plastic issue.

00:32:10.720 As you know, the

00:32:11.660 federal government's

00:32:12.720 ban on single-use

00:32:14.220 plastics was

00:32:15.780 overturned by the

00:32:18.440 federal court.

00:32:19.300 However, Stephen

00:32:20.920 Gilboa, not one to

00:32:21.800 listen to a judge,

00:32:23.560 has decided that he's

00:32:25.300 just going to carry

00:32:26.420 on with it anyway.

00:32:27.300 So Canadians still

00:32:28.460 have to suffer with

00:32:29.460 reusable plastic bags

00:32:31.240 that they constantly

00:32:31.800 forget if you're

00:32:32.620 like me or paper

00:32:34.920 straws.

00:32:35.300 We also have to

00:32:35.960 suffer with those

00:32:36.600 paper straws in

00:32:37.560 our plastic cups.

00:32:39.060 Saving those sea

00:32:40.360 turtles.

00:32:41.360 Anyway, regarding the

00:32:42.640 plastics issue, in my

00:32:43.680 view, the biggest

00:32:44.460 plastic waste is

00:32:46.140 around small single-use

00:32:47.520 water bottles along

00:32:49.120 with the plastic

00:32:50.320 grocery bags.

00:32:51.660 We've made great

00:32:52.580 strides in reducing

00:32:53.380 or even eliminating

00:32:54.240 plastic grocery bags

00:32:55.440 which have now been

00:32:56.080 replaced by reusable

00:32:57.020 bags.

00:32:58.260 Yes, it's a pain

00:32:59.280 when you check out

00:33:00.180 and you forgot the

00:33:02.740 reusable bags in the

00:33:03.580 car, but over time

00:33:04.480 society will change

00:33:05.320 their habits and

00:33:05.860 remember to bring

00:33:06.440 the reusable bags

00:33:07.220 with you into the

00:33:08.580 store.

00:33:09.540 A great step forward.

00:33:11.220 I'm going to push

00:33:11.760 back here.

00:33:14.940 On what planet do the

00:33:19.020 people banning plastic

00:33:20.160 grocery bags think that

00:33:21.180 we don't use them in

00:33:22.400 another form?

00:33:23.120 I now have to go out

00:33:26.960 and buy small garbage

00:33:30.060 bags for my office,

00:33:32.320 for the bathroom,

00:33:33.860 when normally I would

00:33:35.060 just use my single-use

00:33:37.360 plastic bag.

00:33:38.340 I'm not made of money.

00:33:40.360 I don't throw out

00:33:41.340 things unless I have to

00:33:42.580 throw them out and I

00:33:43.600 definitely was not

00:33:44.800 throwing out my plastic

00:33:47.220 grocery bags.

00:33:48.040 I was using them.

00:33:48.900 I was using them to

00:33:49.720 bring my groceries home

00:33:50.740 and then using them

00:33:52.320 in other forms.

00:33:53.020 So, really, the ban

00:33:54.400 on plastic grocery

00:33:55.280 bags has not stopped

00:33:56.960 me from using little

00:33:58.120 tiny plastic bags or

00:33:59.200 at least mid-sized

00:33:59.820 plastic bags.

00:34:00.640 I just now have to go

00:34:01.640 buy them instead of

00:34:03.720 reusing the ones that

00:34:04.860 I just used.

00:34:06.680 So, did we really save

00:34:08.880 anything?

00:34:09.360 Did we really stop

00:34:10.280 plastic?

00:34:11.420 I don't think so.

00:34:12.820 Anyway, let's keep

00:34:13.900 going.

00:34:14.240 But, the single-use

00:34:17.380 smaller water bottles

00:34:18.800 are a huge problem.

00:34:20.160 What should be

00:34:20.480 encouraged or even

00:34:21.180 incentivized are in-home

00:34:22.840 water filtration systems

00:34:24.240 and reusable metal

00:34:25.720 personal water bottles.

00:34:27.540 Let's support the

00:34:28.280 elimination of single-use

00:34:29.740 small water bottles,

00:34:32.300 the 350 milliliters

00:34:34.100 to one liter size,

00:34:35.200 as the next step.

00:34:36.540 Keep up the great work.

00:34:37.320 We're proud to be

00:34:37.780 supporters of Rebel News.

00:34:39.020 You know what?

00:34:40.680 Just recycle your plastic

00:34:42.200 water bottles if you

00:34:43.100 want to.

00:34:44.240 I just, I don't like

00:34:45.360 the idea of a ban.

00:34:46.980 Because sometimes you

00:34:47.800 want to run into the

00:34:48.620 store if you're out on,

00:34:50.440 like, if you work away

00:34:51.440 from home, you forget.

00:34:55.060 And you need to buy a

00:34:56.680 water bottle because

00:34:58.060 you're thirsty and you

00:34:59.000 don't want to put your

00:34:59.560 mouth on a disgusting

00:35:00.640 fountain.

00:35:02.300 Okay.

00:35:04.560 Of course, you know,

00:35:05.620 like, make it easier

00:35:06.340 for people to refill their

00:35:07.340 water bottles when they're

00:35:08.920 out in the world.

00:35:10.900 But I'm just against

00:35:12.360 banning things.

00:35:14.220 for the sake of banning

00:35:15.320 things, especially when

00:35:16.020 they're recyclable.

00:35:17.380 Okay.

00:35:19.020 I was recycling my

00:35:20.240 plastic bags.

00:35:21.360 I, look, I don't, I,

00:35:22.900 I use a soda stream.

00:35:25.580 Like, I don't really buy

00:35:27.580 water bottles.

00:35:28.580 I don't.

00:35:29.240 Um, but there are people

00:35:31.320 who do, and I think they

00:35:32.420 should have that, that

00:35:33.500 right.

00:35:35.320 I don't think plastic is

00:35:36.640 the pollution the left

00:35:37.900 says it is.

00:35:38.580 And as I said with

00:35:39.520 Robbie, we can just

00:35:40.700 incinerate it and make

00:35:41.560 electricity and look at

00:35:42.820 that.

00:35:43.140 We're recycling, right?

00:35:45.860 Anyway, I love letters

00:35:47.480 like this because, um, a,

00:35:49.340 I'm happy for the

00:35:50.240 correction and B, uh, we

00:35:53.560 can, uh, exchange ideas

00:35:55.660 and, uh, that's how

00:35:57.200 things move forward,

00:35:57.920 which, um, which is

00:36:00.820 something the left

00:36:01.440 doesn't want us to do

00:36:02.280 anymore.

00:36:02.860 And even conservatives,

00:36:04.020 we can disagree on

00:36:05.380 plastic and look at us

00:36:06.420 having a conversation

00:36:08.060 instead of just fighting

00:36:09.720 with each other.

00:36:10.660 You know, uh, there's a

00:36:12.860 diversity of viewpoints

00:36:13.760 on all things.

00:36:14.520 I don't think that there

00:36:15.340 is one acceptable way to

00:36:16.880 think about any single

00:36:18.440 issue, which, um, is an

00:36:21.340 attitude I think separates

00:36:22.520 conservatives from the

00:36:23.480 left.

00:36:24.340 And, uh, we can, as

00:36:26.540 Vince says, um, we're

00:36:29.620 agreeing to disagree and

00:36:30.880 he still remains a fan of

00:36:31.960 Rebel News as he signs

00:36:33.140 his letter off.

00:36:34.280 Keep up the great work

00:36:34.980 and we're proud to be

00:36:35.620 supporters of Rebel

00:36:36.260 News.

00:36:36.640 Yeah.

00:36:36.920 So we, I can, I can get

00:36:38.800 something wrong.

00:36:39.660 We can disagree on

00:36:40.440 plastic and we're still

00:36:41.980 friends, which I love

00:36:43.440 about the right.

00:36:44.520 I wish the left were

00:36:45.340 more like that.

00:36:45.960 What a, it's got to be a

00:36:47.080 miserable ideology where

00:36:48.300 you just throw people

00:36:50.500 out of your movement

00:36:51.740 because they disagree

00:36:52.580 with you on one single

00:36:53.540 thing.

00:36:54.500 Well, everybody, that's

00:36:55.460 the show for tonight.

00:36:56.340 Thank you so much for

00:36:57.160 tuning in.

00:36:57.740 I'll see everybody back

00:36:58.580 here in the same time,

00:37:00.320 perhaps in the same place

00:37:01.240 next week.

00:37:01.820 And as always, remember,

00:37:03.960 don't let the government

00:37:04.800 tell you that you've had

00:37:05.640 too much to think.

00:37:14.520 We'll be right back.

00:37:29.800 Don't we?

00:37:30.420 Don't we?

00:37:31.000 We'll be rape.

00:37:31.900 We'll be right back.

00:37:32.460 We'll be right back.

00:37:32.840 We'll be right.

00:37:33.040 We'll be right back.

00:37:33.400 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - November 30, 2023

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