Rebel News Podcast - June 12, 2024


SHEILA GUNN REID | The extreme green agenda to replace beautiful neighbourhoods with 15-minute cities


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Summary

Canadian municipalities have ambitious rezoning plans to make communities more green and dense. What does that mean for older communities? We ll talk to Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science and Sheila Gunn-Reed from The Gunn Show to find out.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Canadian municipalities have ambitious rezoning plans to make communities more green and more
00:00:21.880 dense. What does that mean for older communities? I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:00:30.000 Hey there. So let's talk about fourplexes. For decades, Canadians pretty much only saw either
00:00:52.540 single-family homes or big apartment or condo buildings going up. That's because local laws
00:00:58.460 were written in a way that only allowed for those types of buildings. Midsize buildings,
00:01:03.420 like fourplexes, just didn't get built as much. Well that's changing. We're making it
00:01:08.560 so you can now build four units on the same plot of land that used to be just for one
00:01:13.640 unit. That's called four units as of right. We've signed deals with all the big cities
00:01:19.280 across Canada. Now we're going even bigger. We've put money down for provinces and territories.
00:01:25.460 Five billion dollars to build the roads, public transit and water infrastructure they need
00:01:30.700 with a catch. To get the money, they're going to have to change the way they do things,
00:01:35.220 including, you guessed it, by legalizing four units as of right. Because we need to change
00:01:40.680 the way homes are built across this country. Justin Trudeau's federal government has
00:01:45.380 a sweeping and expensive tree planting scheme. A plan to plant billions of trees across this country.
00:02:00.340 Although the majority of trees in this country are planted by the forestry industry and not the federal
00:02:07.060 government. Because as you know, industry can do things a lot cheaper and more efficiently than the
00:02:12.820 federal government because they actually have a bottom line to worry about. Like the federal government
00:02:18.340 that can just reach into your pocket and take out more money every time one of their plans goes over budget.
00:02:24.740 But if the federal government wants to plant trees everywhere, including on arable farmland,
00:02:32.740 why are they promoting municipal policies that will result in the destruction of mature trees
00:02:46.020 in older neighborhoods in favor of erecting high density housing? Well, we'll discuss that and more
00:02:53.460 with my friend Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science up after the break.
00:02:57.380 Michelle, I wanted to talk to you about something that we hear constantly and it's been pushed for,
00:03:05.540 I don't know, the better part of five years, the tree planting scheme of the federal liberals.
00:03:10.580 And it has bled down to the municipal level. You guys had a really great video that just came out the
00:03:15.300 other day. Tell us what we need to know about the tree planting. I'm going to call it a scam. I'm not
00:03:21.940 sure you're going to call it that, but it is maybe a scheme. Oh, well, I think it must be called a scam
00:03:28.420 by now because as most people know, there's this housing transition accelerator fund that requires
00:03:34.900 blanket rezoning of any city if you accept money from it. And blanket rezoning means that in many
00:03:41.620 places where there are beautiful mature trees, they'll just be ripped out and a larger facility will
00:03:48.580 be placed there, four plex, eight plex, 16 plex. So the thing is that your municipality and you people
00:03:56.500 who live on that property or near it have paid thousands of dollars over the years for planting
00:04:03.700 and urban canopy maintenance by city crews, right? So you've paid for these very nice mature trees,
00:04:14.420 which are now being torn down because of the housing accelerator fund and the blanket rezoning.
00:04:21.060 But never fear because there's a new tree planting program with the Federation of Canadian
00:04:26.340 Municipalities just announced. I think it was May 15th by Jonathan Wilkinson, the minister for this
00:04:34.820 wonderful initiative. And they're going to give money to the Federation of Canadian Municipalities.
00:04:41.940 They're going to create, I believe it's 2000 jobs and they're going to plant 1.2 million trees.
00:04:48.580 And just so you know, many average tree planters plant about 3000 trees a day. So that seems to be
00:04:56.740 quite a few people to plant that many trees. And also now you get to pay again to plant new trees
00:05:05.620 trees that the same government is causing to have been ripped down. And the thing is, you know, mature
00:05:12.020 trees take decades to grow. So you're really just tearing down these beautiful living investments from
00:05:20.100 your community to build probably not well-made and ugly housing that will ruin your neighborhood. But now
00:05:28.340 the government is granting more money to municipalities to plant more trees and create these new jobs, which
00:05:36.020 undoubtedly will become full-time and pensionable. So of course, now something in particular is
00:05:44.660 happening in Calgary, but it's happening across the province. The federal government has tried
00:05:49.620 to go around to the provincial government to give money to the municipalities to inject these green
00:05:57.620 schemes into their affordable housing plans. And I think this all sort of ties in together where
00:06:03.060 if you have an uncooperative provincial government with the federal government's green agenda,
00:06:09.060 the federal government is doing their best to just go around the provincial governments altogether.
00:06:13.620 And I think people really have to pay closer attention to what happens at the municipal level.
00:06:19.940 As a small c conservative, we all sort of get tied up in like paying attention to what the
00:06:25.860 provincial government's doing and paying attention to what the federal government's doing. But some of
00:06:30.020 these green schemes are the most expensive at the municipal level when it comes to housing,
00:06:36.020 when it comes to these tree programs, when it comes to the multi-billion dollars,
00:06:41.140 tens of billions of dollars in Calgary's green plan. Well, they don't have water right now.
00:06:47.700 I really think the recycling, let's not forget the scam of recycling. I'm all for not throwing
00:06:53.780 out garbage that we don't need to throw out, but you know, storing plastic containers and sea cans
00:06:59.700 somewhere until we figure out what to do with it or shipping it to the developing world doesn't seem
00:07:04.500 like a great idea. What do you think about the federal government going around the provincial
00:07:09.620 government to talk to progressive mayors to make life more expensive for residents?
00:07:16.260 Well, I'd say that they've actually been doing that for quite some time, but people haven't really
00:07:20.340 noticed. Again, because it's always been shrouded in the, you know, sort of halo of this is a green
00:07:26.020 initiative and we're doing something good for mankind. And probably one of the more activist
00:07:30.900 groups would be the Federation of Canadian Municipalities. At one point, they claimed that they had
00:07:36.180 installed 4,000 wind turbines or they'd been responsible for initiatives to install 4,000 wind turbines.
00:07:45.060 One of the professional engineers that we've worked with in the past said that, in Alberta anyway,
00:07:52.820 they anticipate that it costs a million dollars a megawatt to integrate a wind turbine into the system.
00:08:02.100 So, you can imagine how much money that actually costs you and it's not anything that people should
00:08:07.780 be cheering about. So, for instance, this idea of going around the province when Jason Kenney was
00:08:16.100 premier and he announced a very large sum for the Alberta inquiry. I think it was about 30 million dollars
00:08:24.260 originally and it was cut back to 3 million. I'm not too sure on the big figure, but about a week after
00:08:30.340 that, if you check the record, the government, the federal government came up with 44 million dollars,
00:08:38.340 which was split equally between Edmonton and Calgary for eco operations. I think it might have gone to
00:08:45.700 Alberta Ecotrust. I'm not exactly sure who it went to, but that's an example of where the provincial
00:08:53.060 government was trying to protect our industry and our incomes revenues for the province and the federal
00:08:59.940 government immediately upped the ante by funding these NGOs, some of which are also foreign funded,
00:09:08.260 by the way. But, you know, they dropped a big chunk of cash on them, presumably to fight back. So,
00:09:15.940 it's been going on for a long, long time. The thing is, at the municipal level, it's very easy for
00:09:21.940 activists to appear before council to ingratiate themselves to councillors because they know them.
00:09:27.940 They live in the same community. So, you know, maybe they've been in the same Rotary Club for years
00:09:32.980 or gone to the same university. So, it's quite easy to get in, whereas for provincial and federal,
00:09:38.660 you generally have to have some kind of lobby registry and it's a more formal process, more difficult.
00:09:45.780 So, yeah, it's happening a lot. And if you read the blueprint for housing, which was presented by
00:09:56.500 a large group of sort of ENGO and types, and Mark Carney was one of the leads on it. In it,
00:10:04.180 he represented himself as being part of Canada 2020. He's actually associated with Brookfield,
00:10:11.060 and Brookfield has a huge real estate division. But anyway, and a renewables division. But anyway,
00:10:17.620 in that, they were advocating that the federal government should actually expropriate land.
00:10:23.220 They're referencing, I think it was the IRPC. I can't remember the name of that group. They were
00:10:30.580 they were suggesting that the federal government should expropriate land along transit lines and
00:10:37.540 then build dense housing there using climate resilient methods. Now, in Alberta, the provincial
00:10:44.660 government has generally ignored or pushed back on the net zero 2030 building requirements,
00:10:51.140 because it would add a huge burden to the cost of building. And there's no particular benefit in
00:10:57.380 terms of climate or anything. So this is a way of forcing cities to build net zero climate resilient
00:11:06.260 housing without ever having the province agree to do that.
00:11:11.300 The federal government's housing policy, wherein we'll basically all end up in living in cardboard
00:11:17.620 boxes if these people get their way. It sounds like they're handing out a lot of money,
00:11:23.620 but at the end of the day, it's really not. No, I think during the Calgary hearings on the blanket
00:11:30.260 rezoning, somebody said that the city is trying to get about $474 million, I think it was, from the
00:11:40.660 Housing Accelerator Transition Fund. But the city itself provides $5 billion dollars in tax revenue to the
00:11:51.220 feds. And I don't know how they calculated that. I'm assuming that would be from the residents. So,
00:11:57.940 you know, it's really a spit in the bucket and very, very disruptive. Because what this Housing Accelerator
00:12:05.140 funding does not account for is the fact that all the infrastructure will have to be upgraded.
00:12:11.940 And, you know, they're kind of counting on the idea that, oh, if we build a fourplex or a 16plex
00:12:17.620 on one or two property lots that used to be single housing, there's already existing infrastructure
00:12:25.060 there. That's why they're focusing sort of on inner city rather than building greenfield housing, which
00:12:30.100 would be a new suburb. But the problem with that is that that infrastructure was built for a single
00:12:36.740 family neighborhood. And there's a limit to how much additional pressure can be put on those lines,
00:12:42.820 whether it be the sewage, the water mains, the electrical. And one of their theories is that,
00:12:49.300 of course, you know, in your new housing pod, you will have electrified things like electrified heating.
00:12:57.860 And maybe you'll just have an induction stove or hot plate. Maybe you'll just have a little Instapot.
00:13:05.060 Maybe that will be the entire kitchen for you. It'll all be electrified. But then you have to upgrade the
00:13:10.340 electrical distribution grid for that neighborhood a lot. So these costs are astronomical. And I think
00:13:19.620 as we've seen in Calgary just now with the big water main break, you know, that that pipe apparently
00:13:27.700 was about 50 years old. And the lifespan of such a pipe is apparently 50 years. So there's lots of
00:13:36.260 that all over every city in Canada. And there's going to be lots of big fails like that as density
00:13:43.380 is imposed on neighborhoods that are not built for it. And I think actually a lot of the new neighborhoods
00:13:49.060 are built for considerations of like adding additional units like a grandma suite, adding EV chargers, you
00:13:57.540 know, a lot of them are set up with electrical that could accept that in the future. But the old
00:14:04.260 neighborhoods are not, you know, I'm glad you brought up the strain to the electrical grid
00:14:09.300 once we're all using induction stoves and our air fryers to cook our dinners instead of good old
00:14:15.380 reliable natural gas. I just I'm reading from a press release right now from Premier Daniel Smith and
00:14:21.860 the Minister of Environment and Protected Areas, Rebecca Schultz. And it's on the following,
00:14:26.580 it's on Canada's Electricity Advisory Council's final report. The Canada Electricity Advisory Council's
00:14:35.860 latest report echoes Alberta's long standing warning. Ottawa's one size fits all electricity
00:14:42.340 regulations are dangerous, costly, and an unrealistic path to failure. So Justin Trudeau's own Electricity
00:14:50.420 Advisory Council is sounding the alarm saying that they need to call for less ideology and more common
00:14:59.300 sense rejecting rigid mandates that ignore regional realities. So the Federal Advisory Council on Justin
00:15:10.180 Trudeau's rapid transition to electrification of all things is saying that this doesn't take into account
00:15:18.180 the regional dynamics of places like Alberta versus places like BC. Do you think the Feds are going
00:15:24.580 to listen? I mean, this is something we've all been saying for a very long time. But what happens? Brownouts, I guess?
00:15:31.780 Well, it's hard to know if the Feds will listen because they are so ideologically driven. And I suspect
00:15:37.300 that they are driven also by investment considerations. It's my view that many of the pension plans, the big
00:15:43.620 pension plans, especially public service ones, are invested in renewables, heavily invested in them,
00:15:49.300 whether directly or indirectly through mutual funds. And this is why we see this continuous push
00:15:55.860 to incorporate, you know, a so-called clean grid and EVs, all these new things. I think they're deeply
00:16:03.060 invested in them, so they're just trying to prop them up. And as long as the climate scenario,
00:16:09.300 catastrophic scenario reigns in the public mind, they will go along with it. But as people begin
00:16:15.860 to figure it out, like, wait a minute, you know, we're talking about foreign interference at the
00:16:20.580 highest levels of government in Canada, where is the largest producer of EVs and wind and solar panels?
00:16:28.660 Well, it's China, right? So who benefits from the purchase of these products and installation of them?
00:16:36.740 Well, China does. So, you know, you have to look for those conflicts of interest, I think. And
00:16:42.260 practically speaking, I'm sure that all of the utilities companies have made the case to various
00:16:51.220 levels of government that, you know, if you want one of these substations or these types of transformers
00:17:00.020 or these types of devices that integrate wind and solar because they're, you know, one is DC,
00:17:06.100 wind and solar, the other is AC, the main grid, so you have to have something that converts it. These
00:17:12.420 kinds of devices, A, they're highly in demand because lots of places in the world are trying to do that,
00:17:18.900 and B, it takes years to order and get them. Years, like five years, I understand, for some of these
00:17:25.060 transformers and millions, billions of dollars. So, you know, hopefully reality will hit and people
00:17:33.380 will say, come on, let's back off this net zero thing. Because the problem is we will destabilize
00:17:39.620 the grid and we won't be able to fix it because we will not be able to get enough of these supposed
00:17:46.180 big batteries that will save us. They won't save us, but, you know, they would perhaps provide some
00:17:53.620 interim power for a few hours. But they're, you know, all these things are very expensive. They're
00:18:00.020 very hard to get. And as we are rushing ahead, we are simply destabilizing the power grids everywhere
00:18:05.620 in Canada, driving up costs. And at some point, I think it'll be too broken to go back and fix.
00:18:11.700 And a lot of the things that we need and want won't be available because we're not the biggest player
00:18:17.460 in the market. So, you know, if somebody in the States wants those particular transformers,
00:18:23.620 they probably will get them first, bigger customer. For sure. And we've already seen this happen
00:18:31.060 in Alberta in like a very small scale, but it was in one of the coldest parts of the winter
00:18:37.860 when we did not have enough electricity on our grid to deal with the demand. And so what did we
00:18:43.860 have to do? Well, we bought electricity from BC. We bought it from the United States, which is coal
00:18:48.420 fired electricity. So while they got us off coal fired electricity here in Alberta, they didn't really,
00:18:53.940 they got us off coal fired jobs because we end up buying coal fired electricity from the States to keep
00:18:59.700 us going. Right. And the thing is, you know, it's been I think since 2005, a long-standing demand or
00:19:09.300 dream of the Liberal government and the Liberal Party to have an east-west grid. Their ideological vision
00:19:17.300 is that because there's hydro in BC and hydro in the Atlantic provinces and hydro in Quebec, all you have to
00:19:23.060 do is hook it all together and la-dee-da, put up some wind in Alberta, and we can have a renewable grid
00:19:30.740 and everything will be perfect. But it doesn't work that way. And we can see that very clearly right now
00:19:35.380 in BC. They're in a drought period. So, so much for that. You know, we can't really draw the same kind of
00:19:43.620 power from them reliably as we could in times when they had lots of power. Likewise for them.
00:19:49.220 We used to provide them with coal fired power at night. So they didn't have to run their reservoirs
00:19:56.820 at the same level. So the reservoir could replenish at night and then the coal power would go back to
00:20:02.740 Alberta for our industrial operations and daily operations. And then at night when we didn't need
00:20:08.340 that excess, we could shift it back to BC and they could store up their reservoir water again. So that
00:20:15.780 doesn't happen now as far as I know. And the thing is, you know, people say, oh, well, coal plants are
00:20:21.780 inefficient because you have to run them all the time. And you do pretty much have to run them all
00:20:26.500 the time. They're not a start stop thing like a natural gas plant can be. But when you have this
00:20:33.460 kind of arrangement, then you're actually maximizing the benefits of the coal plant for everyone. And we
00:20:39.780 have lost a big chunk of our energy security in Alberta because, you know, you have to remember
00:20:45.380 that natural gas is pressurized. So there always has to be pressure in the line and it that's what's
00:20:51.700 feeding the gas plant. But when you have a coal plant, you can have a year supply of coal sitting
00:20:58.420 there in a pile on site. You don't have to worry about it. But if there's a gas plant leak or an
00:21:04.980 interruption in service or a shortage or a huge price spike in natural gas, then you're toast.
00:21:13.060 You know, whereas coal is price stable. It's been price stable for like about a hundred years.
00:21:18.340 Yeah. Unless you slap it with carbon tax and then the carbon tax ends up being
00:21:23.220 more than the value of coal, as my friend Mike continues to show me as he
00:21:28.020 posts his coal bill online because he eats with coal and he's paying more in carbon tax than he is
00:21:35.780 for the coal. I want to ask you about this article that you wrote for the Western Standard about an
00:21:42.580 organization many people probably don't know about. It's called the Canadian Sustainability Standards
00:21:48.740 Board. Why should we be paying attention to these people and what do they plan to do to us all?
00:21:54.580 Well, this is a subset of the International Sustainability Standards Board and it came out
00:22:02.740 of I think COP26. And basically what they want is that every corporation should count every carbon
00:22:09.140 molecule that they use in every way that they use it. And not only what they use in their facility and
00:22:16.260 operation on site, but also what is emitted by their suppliers, both their suppliers of services like
00:22:25.380 electricity, but also downstream meaning, you know, the delivery truck. At this point, they're proposing
00:22:32.340 that this should be voluntary and not mandatory until it is mandatory because they say that the Canadian
00:22:40.340 Securities Administrator will decide when it becomes mandatory. They wanted to have it implemented by
00:22:46.420 January 2024, so that's already a bad sign and they're looking to implement it by 2025. Now the problem is
00:22:53.700 when you go right down to the scope 3, which is really the kind of granular level, first of all,
00:23:01.780 you know, they're trying to count everything that the end user of their product does with it. So I think the
00:23:07.860 potato example is very simple and people can understand it. This means they're trying to determine what
00:23:15.140 what you do with that potato. Do you bake it? Do you fry it? Do you deep fry it? Do you air fry it? You
00:23:21.780 know, so you can imagine how complicated that would be. So the other side of that is that there's a push to
00:23:29.460 also have a personal carbon ration. So you would actually become the verifier of those end user
00:23:37.860 carbon molecules, right? Now that's not the carbon, personal carbon ration is not part of the CSSB,
00:23:47.620 but that would be the end result. But the CSSB is asking people, corporations, to make analysis using
00:23:58.100 climate scenarios that are implausible, and then they also have to make numbers of analysis as to whether or
00:24:04.500 not it's going to be disorderly achievement of net zero, orderly achievement, too little too late,
00:24:14.260 or hot house earth. These are their four transition scenarios. So first of all, like there is no hot
00:24:21.860 house earth. Secondly, not, you know, we've just seen Vaclav Smil's report from the Fraser Institute
00:24:30.100 showing that net zero is impossible, is very unlikely to achieve. We also did a report called
00:24:37.380 Getting to Net Zero, where we looked at the Canada Energy Regulators plans for how we get to net zero,
00:24:44.660 versus a left-leaning organization, the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives, which did a very brutal,
00:24:52.740 factual analysis. So the Canadian energy regulator is claiming that, oh, you know, if heat pumps only
00:25:00.260 dropped 30 percent in price by 2030, and we sold millions of them, then we'd cut our emissions in
00:25:07.780 half. You know, very wild, exaggerated assumptions. One of the assumptions was that we would use direct air
00:25:18.180 capture at a rate that I believe was 5,000 percent of what the world rate is, right? 5,000 times. So, you know,
00:25:29.620 these assumptions are ridiculous. Anyway, the CCPA report is very blunt, and it basically says that
00:25:37.460 to achieve net zero, Canadians have to accept the fact of degrowth and deindustrialization and cutting
00:25:44.500 your personal emissions drastically. So, you know, you can't reach net zero. So the CSSB is asking
00:25:54.500 chartered accountants and companies to come up with a solution or with a plan to meet something that's
00:26:01.860 impossible to meet. And what sort of influence do these people have as far as influence on policy
00:26:10.340 makers? Huge influence, huge influence. It was actually Christy Freeland who invited the CSSB to
00:26:16.980 set up an office or the ISSB to set up an office in Canada, and that it would be under the umbrella of
00:26:23.380 the chartered professional accountants. Now, chartered professional accountants are supposed to be the
00:26:28.340 people who help us make rational decisions about financing and money. And if you look at the list of
00:26:34.980 signatories on the letter that Christy Freeland sent, you know, it's groups like even AIMCO,
00:26:42.020 you know, all the big pension funds, OMERS, they all want to have some kind of standardized reporting.
00:26:50.420 But what are they reporting on? They're not reporting on anything practical. So, you know, this is also
00:26:58.340 a huge trough for all the environmental groups because, you know, these consulting fees are estimated
00:27:05.700 to be, I think Dr. Tammy Nemeth has done a couple of articles on this, one in the Financial Post and
00:27:11.140 one in the Hub. The consulting fees to do this kind of analysis would be, you know, in the $100,000 to $400,000
00:27:17.380 area. Very, very complex mathematics and you have to know how to, you know, make it look right.
00:27:25.220 Right.
00:27:26.020 The mom and pop operations will be crushed by this. They can't do this kind of reporting.
00:27:31.780 Yeah.
00:27:32.500 They're trying to sell cookies or whatever they sell, you know, but ultimately it will come down to them
00:27:41.220 because they're receiving some of the materials from the big corporations who will ultimately be asked,
00:27:46.660 and what are those guys emitting?
00:27:49.860 This is impossible. Yeah.
00:27:52.580 It's absolutely impossible. And as you say, when small businesses are being crushed already by the
00:27:58.900 carbon tax and over regulation, municipal taxes, all sorts of onerous rules and hoops that they have to
00:28:07.940 jump through and abide by, how are they to do this? I mean, it's impossible.
00:28:12.820 Right. So you can see our letter. We posted our letter to the CSSB on our website and, you know,
00:28:19.780 in a kind of a total irony, you know, the recent regulations about not greenwashing regarding fossil
00:28:28.340 fuels and net zero. Well, how would that apply to these guys who are making reports on how they're
00:28:33.940 going to achieve something that's not possible to achieve? Will they all be? That's the other thing
00:28:39.700 that Tammy Nemeth says, you know, that the shareholder liability and the lawfare from ENGOs would just
00:28:48.740 blossom with this kind of legislation.
00:28:51.220 Yeah. Well, and I'm so glad you pointed out the consultant class in this country, because as you
00:28:57.940 know, that's unfolding right now at the federal government with McKinsey getting, I think it's 209
00:29:04.580 million dollars in consulting contracts. Many of them have no proof of work and most of them were rigged
00:29:11.300 to favor McKinsey. And McKinsey's contracting went up, I think, 2,500 percent since 2016. That's the value
00:29:21.940 of their contracts with the federal government. Just imagine all these environmental ENGOs who are
00:29:28.660 already getting favorable tax status in this country through their charitable status, enriching themselves
00:29:36.820 with federal money because they are the consultants in this shakedown racket.
00:29:42.260 Right. And we just saw Mark Carney, who was claiming that he was representing himself as an individual
00:29:50.740 presenting to the Senate. Now, of course, he's the former governor of the Bank of Canada,
00:29:55.540 former governor of the Bank of England. So he brings with him an aura of a lot of rationality.
00:30:02.900 He was pushing for Senator Rosa Galvez Bill S-243. And that bill would install on every board of directors
00:30:15.700 a climate expert. So that would be from this consulting class as well. And it would not allow anyone with
00:30:24.340 actual expertise who has been working in the fossil fuel industry within the past five years to be a board
00:30:31.940 member. So you're actually going to have hyped up ideologues on boards that are dealing with critical
00:30:41.060 infrastructure and supply of services. And Mark Carney thinks that's a good idea, this Bill S-243.
00:30:49.460 Yeah, we wouldn't want any actual experts involved.
00:30:55.380 Right. So all of these things are converging to really put a choke hold on the energy operations in
00:31:04.580 Canada. And, you know, the public health is at risk without adequate and reliable supply of
00:31:15.540 reliable energy. Then we suffer and many of us die. And it's that simple. There's no two ways about it.
00:31:25.940 So if you're a farmer, you're creating food for us, you need energy to run your tractor to do the
00:31:31.540 harvesting to dry your grain. If you're a manufacturer, you need energy to can that food,
00:31:38.100 to make the things that we need to build houses and all this crazy, you know, carbon dioxide reporting
00:31:46.660 stuff. It's just noise that does nothing. It's not productive in any way. And, you know, we're a
00:31:54.660 country that's now on the ropes in terms of our national economy. The last thing we need is more ridiculous
00:32:02.020 legislation, more layers of rules, more accounting of carbon molecules, you know, when it does nothing
00:32:13.300 for anyone. And it just makes it harder and harder to do business here.
00:32:16.980 Yeah, and it makes a lot of people richer and a lot of other people poorer. Michelle, how do people
00:32:25.300 find the work that you do and support the work that you do at Friends of Science? Because you'll
00:32:30.900 never take a penny from any level of government, how would you hold them to account if you ever did?
00:32:36.420 But you're also up against people who do take a lot of money from the government, as in these
00:32:41.380 environmental NGOs. So you, your videos, by the way, are great, because they take these big,
00:32:49.700 extra confusing, I think purposefully confusing concepts, and you break them down into small bite
00:32:55.460 size pieces that normal people can understand. And that takes time and it takes resources. And I think,
00:33:02.180 you know, every little bit helps. So tell us how people can get involved.
00:33:05.940 Okay. Well, you know, we're a small nonprofit. We're run by volunteers. We do have a handful of
00:33:12.500 contracted suppliers that we have to pay. And we do have to pay for our videos, of course.
00:33:18.180 We have never monetized our videos. Like a lot of people think, oh, you guys have like 53,000 followers.
00:33:24.100 You must make a lot of money on your videos. But we don't. We've never made a penny from our videos.
00:33:29.540 But if people who watched our videos gave us a dollar, that would be very helpful.
00:33:34.500 If you gave us 20, that would be even more helpful. We're in our 22nd year of operations. So
00:33:40.100 you can send e-transfer to contact at friendsofscience.org. And if you want to send us
00:33:47.620 $1 or $20 or $22, that would be great. Or even more, that would be fine. But we're very happy with
00:33:54.500 small sums. You can become a member. It's $40 for one year, $80 for three years. And if you go to our main
00:34:01.460 website, you can see a join or donate button there. And you can share our material. And most of all,
00:34:10.100 you know, we provide the material free to the public. We don't have lobbyists in Ottawa. All the big green
00:34:16.100 groups have dozens of lobbyists in Ottawa. Literally hundreds of people are lobbying the government on
00:34:23.860 behalf of the green groups. We don't have any. We're not a federally registered lobbyist. We give the
00:34:30.020 material to the public and we say, here it is. Do with it as you see fit. So we really rely on you
00:34:38.660 to be our foot soldiers and our supporters. So we're very grateful for our loyal members and supporters
00:34:45.860 over the years. But we do need more help. We need to get our messages out there. It's critical now,
00:34:52.100 because a lot of very dumb ideas are being pushed by very influential people and groups. So if you can
00:35:00.580 help, please do. Yes. And unlike what the federal government would want on these advisory boards,
00:35:08.660 you actually employ experts to do the work that you do. It's not just a bunch of ideologues. These
00:35:16.260 are scientists and professional engineers who are examining these bad ideas for what it will
00:35:23.860 practically mean for the taxpayer in your pocket and in your lifestyle and in your family, which I think
00:35:29.460 is important work that you do. Michelle, thanks so much for coming on the show. Thank you also from the
00:35:35.380 bottom of my heart for being part of our documentary, Made, The Dark Side of Canadian Compassion and
00:35:40.340 telling your family story there. I think you will change hearts and minds there. I so appreciate how
00:35:45.460 raw and honest you were. And I can't wait to see what you guys do next. And I'll have you back on the
00:35:50.900 show very soon. Thank you so much, Sheila. All the best. And thank you for all you guys do. You're amazing
00:35:57.620 rebel out there every day.
00:36:03.300 Well, we've come to the portion of the show wherein we invite your fewer feedback because
00:36:06.980 without you, there would be no rebel news, right? We'll never take a penny from Justin Trudeau.
00:36:10.740 We're just like friends of science in that way. And how could we hold him to account if we did?
00:36:15.300 I'm looking at you mainstream media, but it's the reason I also open up my email to you
00:36:22.020 because you should have your say. If we exist only through your support, then I kind of have to
00:36:28.420 listen to the shareholders, don't I? So if you want to send me an email, it's Sheila at rebelnews.com.
00:36:36.500 Put gun show letters in the subject line so I know why you're emailing me. But don't let that be the
00:36:41.780 bar for entry. If you're watching free clips of the show over on Rumble or YouTube, just leave me a
00:36:48.420 comment there. I go looking over there quite frequently about 50% of the time.
00:36:54.100 Today's gun show letter though does come from the email inbox and it comes from a loyal rebel news
00:37:00.820 viewer, Bruce. Bruce lives in Radway with his cat and he sends me letters from time to time. And it's
00:37:07.460 been a while since I read one of Bruce's letters. And if you would like a lively back and forth the way
00:37:14.260 Bruce and I have, I might suggest you start sending me some emails. Okay. Now Bruce writes to me on
00:37:20.100 last week's show with my friend, Chris Sims from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. And he says,
00:37:26.900 Hi, Sheila. I don't mind at all if you go along with your guests. They're all fascinating. Why
00:37:30.820 people would want shorter shows is beyond me. Chris Sims is especially charming and interesting.
00:37:36.580 Oh, Bruce, I second that motion. Let's keep going. Whenever I hear of all the waste and interest
00:37:41.620 charges, the liberals have foisted on us. I imagine all the good that money could have done for us.
00:37:46.500 Imagine all the hospitals, which could be built. Imagine all the doctors and especially specialists
00:37:50.580 that could be hired. Imagine all the specialty equipment, which could be purchased. Imagine to
00:37:56.500 all the help veterans, seniors and disabled folks could have if that money wasn't squandered on stupid
00:38:00.900 stuff. It angers me whenever I hear of how these pompous ministers and bureaucrats treat our concerns
00:38:06.740 with contempt. Me too. By the way, why is Rebel News taking ads from Timu, a company which has a
00:38:14.340 parent company linked to the Chinese communist? China in focus has done two stories already on Timu.
00:38:20.740 I also wrote to Rebel News about this, but nobody answered. I hate it when companies get too big to
00:38:25.380 answer our mail. Please mention this story in your morning meeting. I'm mentioning it right now,
00:38:30.260 and I will bring it up in the morning meeting. But what I do know about how Google serves up ads to you,
00:38:36.900 has almost nothing to do with us. So what I see as an ad on our website served up to us by Google AdSense
00:38:48.500 is going to be entirely different than what you see. And it's based on your interests and the things
00:38:54.020 you've browsed, much like how if you're on Facebook and you have been searching for something on Facebook
00:38:59.460 marketplace and then all of a sudden you see ads for that same thing served up to you, or maybe it's
00:39:05.860 been eavesdropping on you and all of a sudden you get ads served up for a teardrop trailer.
00:39:12.420 I've been served up and you're like, I never even searched for that you eavesdropping weirdos.
00:39:17.860 That's what happens. So I know that you have an interest in Timu as it pertains to its links to
00:39:24.500 the Chinese Communist Party. So you've probably done some Googling on that or you've watched some stuff
00:39:28.500 on that. And so now the Google algorithm says, oh, he is curious about Timu. Let's serve him up some
00:39:36.180 of those ads. So that's what's happened. So we are not working directly with Timu. Don't think that at
00:39:43.700 all. But that's why you're seeing that. And so what you see will be completely different than mine.
00:39:49.300 And now that I have been talking repeatedly about Timu, guess what I'm going to get next time I log
00:39:56.660 on to rebelnews.com. Probably an ad from Timu, thanks to the dark overlords at Google.
00:40:06.180 So, you know, that's how that works.
00:40:10.100 Well, everybody, that's the show for today. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody
00:40:14.020 back here in the same time in the same place next weekend. As always,
00:40:17.860 don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.