SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ The Prairies get a Rebel to call their own
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Summary
In this episode of The Gunn Show, my friend Kelly Lamb joins me from her home north of Prince Albert, Saskatchewan to talk about how she became a Rebel contributor, how she got her start on the team, and how she ended up in politics.
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Oh, hey Rebels, it's me, Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're listening to a free audio-only
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Tonight my guest is someone that is new to the Rebel team, but she's definitely not new
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It's Kelly Lamb, our newest Rebel News contributor.
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She's based just outside of Prince Albert, Saskatchewan, so maybe, possibly more in the
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We've got a brand new Rebel on the team, and you get to meet her today.
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I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
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Some of you may already be well acquainted with our newest Rebel from some of her prior
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You might also know her from, I guess, being the resident Rebel News songstress.
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We actually flew her to the UK to sing at a rally for Tommy Robinson.
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It's Kelly Day, and she's a small-town Saskatchewan girl with a big love and big passion for free
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speech, personal liberty, and hearing both sides of the story, which is a dangerous thing
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And Kelly's on the show today to refresh your memories about her if you already know who
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And for those of you who are new, you get to meet her for the very first time.
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So here's Kelly Day in an interview we recorded yesterday morning.
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So joining me now from her home north of Prince Albert, Saskatchewan, is my friend Kelly Lamb
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I think you could be a bit of a new face to some people, but I think to long-time Rebel
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But why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself and sort of how you came to, I guess,
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Not in particular how you came to be working with us at Rebel News, but just sort of how
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you ended up in this place in your life and on the internets.
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Brevity has never been my strength, so no promises.
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Basically, I started getting interested in politics when I was young, but I was a bit
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of a lefty, full disclosure, and dealing with health issues and seeing a lot of poverty
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You always want to be compassionate and believing that narrative.
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And I started having a big personal shift in sort of the 2017 to 2019 region, started a
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And then from there, ended up running for politics for the PPC, People's Party of Canada
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And from there, just continued to delve into this idea of sort of monologuing on political
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And Sheila and I were talking a bit off screen about, you know, how great it is to do something
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for a living that you actually just, you're ranting at home about the news anyway.
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You might as well do it on camera and have a little more structure to it.
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So I just started making a YouTube channel, which was small, but it grew and did a bit
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with the Rebel, a little bit of musical gigging here and there, and took some time off for
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health and wasn't sure where it was going to go.
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And I had a surgery, and now I'm back and sort of was just trying to decide how my life
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So that's the best short, that's probably the best short summary I've ever done.
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You know, and I kind of like that you come from the left, because I think right in the
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left, we care about different, or we care about a lot of the same things, but we, our
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A lot of the people on the left, they say they care about the poor.
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And for a lot of people on the left, they think that just taking other people's money and
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throwing it at the problem is the way to be compassionate.
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Um, because those poor people, they just can't figure it out for themselves, you see.
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And for me coming at it from the right and having lived that experience, I say, no, we
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And so bigotry of soft expectations, I find is a big thing, as well as just the approach
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to government, believing the government has the answer, bigger government, more policy.
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The government I am learning does not do a very good job.
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So either they have terrible intentions or they have good intentions, but they just suck
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So if you hand it over to the government, chances are they're not going to do as good of a job
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as a smaller charity or a grassroots group of people or regular citizens.
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So it really started to dawn on me how much I was being duped by flowery language and essentially
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I think it's even in my Twitter bio, just really warning people to stop.
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Canadians are very easily duped by nice language.
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I don't know what it is with us, but we are just so, oh, well, that sounded real compassionate.
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But there's little, there's very little empowerment in these types of policies.
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And that's really what got me awakened to just, I guess I'm a classical liberal, but ultimately
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I'm a conservative now because everything's moved so far to the left that none of the traditional
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But I'd like to think I'm at least just common sense.
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And, you know, that's not a common thing anymore, unfortunately.
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So, yeah, yeah, it's, I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that Canadians have made
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being nice or we think being nice, like, or being perceived as nice by the rest of the world.
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And for a lot of people, being nice means giving other people other people's money and then patting
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And I feel like there's a lot of passive aggression in our niceness.
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That's what I'm really learning with this whole pandemic stuff is there's a lot of, a lot of
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passive aggression and sort of this gentle, we're going to say sort of nice things, but
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you can tell that we're going to judge you really hard underneath it all.
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So I'm starting to question the nice narrative, but that's a whole other discussion altogether.
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I think a lot of that, like, niceness is cloaked anti-Americanism.
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I know we see that a lot of the left in Canada sees Americans is like brash and rough around
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the edges and they see individualism as selfishness.
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And whereas, you know, a normal person might say, well, wanting what somebody else has worked
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But again, the anti-Americanism part is something that I've definitely noticed since I was younger,
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I remember thinking, why were people so hard on the States?
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I always thought we needed more, a little more of that in our nation.
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And now I've learned a little more nuance and I don't think I've changed my mind on that.
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So, well, and I think too, that sort of distinguishes the West as sort of as, I would say,
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we are a bit of a distinct society, distinct culture from the rest of Canada,
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because I think we are more closely aligned with that rugged individualism of the Americans
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than that, like, collective niceties of the Laurentian overlords in Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa.
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Now, I wanted to, you touched on something there.
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And so by the time that this goes to air, people are going to see your second video.
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And your first two videos, I think, are going to set the stage for, and correct me if I'm wrong,
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the sort of stories that I think you're going to focus on.
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But again, this is Rebel News, and we give our journalists a lot of leeway to talk about
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But you've covered a grassroots uprising of parents and people in Saskatchewan who have said,
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no, you're not going to do these things to our kids and put these rules on our kids
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without our say first, or at least without asking us.
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And a lot of this is being done without even asking the parents if this is a good idea.
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We know that politicians are going to do things to us and, like, pay things lip service,
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but they didn't even bother to pay lip service in Saskatchewan and some of these school boards.
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No, they just push out these policies, and then they use that ever, you know, evergreen
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line of this is what we learn from the experts, and this is what's best for your children,
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and that's what we're going to do moving forward without even considering that perhaps,
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imagine that a parent might know what's best for their kid, whether it comes to vaccines
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And we, again, in Canada, I find it odd that we give so much, just passively give authority
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to the state over very important decisions that can affect our children's lives, right?
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So it's, I found it really interesting, the approach that Nadine took.
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That's one of the reasons I was so interested in the story is just, I love, well, that and
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knowing them a bit personally and wanting to fight for good people because you know that
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their intentions are so good, and you know that these are reasonable people and smart people
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So I really appreciated their approach of, we're going to do the best we can to meet
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them in the middle, play their game, then we'll go to the meeting, we'll, we're not just
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going to, you know, stand with signs and swear and whatever else with big, you know, F Trudeau
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It's, they're going to go and try to actually find some reasonable, like, policy alternative,
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and whether that's going to go anywhere in the long run, or they're just going to say,
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oh, we're, we're restructuring things, we're going to make it better, you know, we'll find
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out, I guess, how much that is an empty promise or whether they fulfill it.
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But at least they're trying to, they're really trying to do this in a peaceful way.
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And what started as just this grassroots parental concern group turned into healthcare workers
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who were concerned and are going to lose their jobs soon from the Saskatchewan Health
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So then that group started and Nadine headed that up.
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And then there were so many people wanting to come in that aren't healthcare workers through
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And now we have Unified Grassroots, which I think is, is almost at 6,000 people now.
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And that's the way more than even since I did the video.
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So it's going from parents to citizens at large, people are really concerned about what's
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And we haven't even seen the downfall of all of these policies from kids to firing people
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for not getting something for a medical choice.
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We have no idea the, the huge effects that that is going to, to have.
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And what's nice about a group like Unified Grassroots and what they're doing is they
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really are bringing it back to the very beginning, back to the people, keep it simple.
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And let's go in there and try to bring our ideas to the table and do it in strength in
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numbers with unity and try to give the media, the ferocious mainstream media, less fodder.
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They're going to try to discredit you any way they can.
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We know that, but we're trying to, you know, they're trying to give them less fodder for,
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for fun, I guess, for things that they can just nail you on.
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So it's, it's nice to see people really, they're, they're not meeting the hate with
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They really want to meet the hatred with light, you know, light in the darkness,
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unification, not focusing on, on labeling and division.
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It's whether it's race or, or medical status or whatever else you want to throw in there,
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we just are at each other's throats and they're really trying to, even though sometimes
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it's hard because people have been harsh and cruel, right.
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And wishing death upon people to, to meet that with grace is so difficult.
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And I really commend Nadine Ness and the people that are starting that group because they've
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So, yeah, that's what I really like about Nadine's group.
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Um, and, uh, so the, there's a role for protest, obviously there's a role of speaking truth
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Um, but she's also showing up at school board meetings and talking to the school board.
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And so she's approaching this from both sides and utilizing every tool the citizen has to
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advocate for policy change, which I really like, but you did, you, you did point out something,
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um, interesting when you were commenting on that and that I think the old political lines have
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Normally we, we think of healthcare workers as, you know, voting for big government because
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they work for the government and their unions are often supporting the NDP, but they are being
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left out in the dark by their unions and the, the, the party that their union traditionally
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And I think it's not left versus right anymore.
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It's the people who want to be left alone and the people who won't leave them alone.
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And I think the greatest failing of our politicians during this time is that there are a few that
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are willing to get in front of the issue and say, okay, well, those people are a single
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This weird, this weird swath of humanity, people who normally would cross the street so that
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they didn't walk on the same side of the street as each other.
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They're all showing up at the same protest and chanting the same thing.
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A good politician would want to round up all those people and make them potential voters,
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but that's not really happening at least at the provincial level at all.
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And it's so interesting that you bring that up because it kind of ties into my story.
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So part of me getting into sort of the left back in the day was me going into natural health,
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the world of natural health, which is very, that's also what got me into sort of the new
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age, which was what I was going to focus on as well as politics.
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I don't know if the rebel has any space for that, but that kind of ideology, and it is
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It all kind of has a lot of crossover, but natural health is an interesting field because
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it's full of people that are either complete normies and don't give a crap about politics
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And this is where we're with the whole COVID thing and status, medical status, vaccine
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I don't know what word I'm supposed to use on YouTube for all of this at this point, but
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it seems like that's the really the one group that is, you know, showing the same, the same,
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sorry, I was having like weird beefs going on on my computer.
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So in the natural health world, you have people that are either complete normies and
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they're not political at all, or they're very left-leaning.
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And that's where we're finding a lot of commonality on the COVID-19 vaccine, because people don't
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want to take pharmaceuticals in the natural health world that are, you know, they don't
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They go to some natural, some herb or something or homeopathy.
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And in fact, they don't want to just, that bodily autonomy, that's the line for them.
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And they're not political, but anybody that's trying to force something into their body,
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There's nothing that we've been, you know, on Twitter, all of us people on Twitter are
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fighting it out for 18 months about all the politics.
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They just don't want that substance in their veins, period.
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Every possible race, every possible ethnicity, background, occupation, belief didn't matter.
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And like you said, politicians aren't paying attention to that or something else is going
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And I don't know what's happened with Scott Moe.
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They were adamant against this passport, this mandating of vaccines, and they've completely
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I'm not saying that anything weird has happened.
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I know he's been denouncing conspiracy theories of being paid off by Big Pharma.
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I don't know if there's bribery or blackmail or what's going on.
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But these people are doing about faces, and they've become quite tyrannical.
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They must see the negative effects of losing a bunch of skilled workers in every possible
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Surely they know that the dividing society isn't going to make things better, right?
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For a long time in this pandemic, I was grateful to be here.
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And I would say, oh, I'm in the safest part of Canada.
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I'm in the most sane part of Canada, and now here we are.
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We expect the government to screw us over, especially as conservatives, right?
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What I didn't expect was to see people screwing each other over.
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What I didn't expect was seeing so many people go along with it, throw their family and friends
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under the bus for the illusion of the chance of safety.
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When you go to these protests, it is just this.
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You want to talk about a kaleidoscope of humanity.
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You've got, you know, Orthodox Christians, Anabaptists, the crystals cure cancer crowd,
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the New Agers, the conservatives who just want to be left alone, the oil patch workers who
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are like, I don't want to get the jab because I have to go in a work camp.
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And there's not a single politician with the good sense of Ralph Klein, who someone once
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asked him his secret to success, and it was to identify a parade that was already marching
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and then just jump in front of it and lead it, which is actually pretty smart.
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But there's not a single politician willing to do it.
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And, you know, it's sad to see politicians we thought were actual good conservatives who
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cared about these things just now going along to get along because, I don't know, because
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But again, like you said, we expect our politicians to do this.
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It's sadder to see our friends and neighbors so scared of the TV and the things the TV is
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telling them that they're making their relationships with people they know are good people all of
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It's about, you know, going from your whole life, you know certain people, whether it's
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friends, neighbors, family members, people that have good hearts, that care about others,
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And because of this absolute constant fear porn that's been put into people's minds, they're
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willing to dump those people that they know and trust or did trust at one point.
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Something shifted and now they trust pharmaceutical companies and government, people that are making
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health policy, often unelected bureaucratic bureaucrats, you know, thousands of miles away.
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And they're willing to trust that person, but not the person that's really just trying
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It's happening in my family and it's happening in employment.
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We've just split the society into I've I've never seen anything like it, Sheila.
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And seeing it, like I said, seeing it in Saskatchewan with a bunch of people that I thought
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I think Nadine was talking about that a lot at the rally.
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I mean, this is the home of Tommy Douglas, right?
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This is this is the home of United Way breaking records in charity giving.
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It's a it's a harsh environment in Saskatchewan.
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So we've always had, you know, whether people were in 1950s, you know, you had farmers helping
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each other, dig each other out of the snow, helping each other during harvest.
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That's the kind of people that Saskatchewan, you know, that's what we're bred from.
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This is it feels extremely antithetical to everything I've ever known and loved and been
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And I did expect it from government, even Scott Moe.
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I mean, I didn't think he was this bad, but I expected him to go.
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It's I mean, it's a job where they're incentivized to lie.
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I think that's the other part that's bugging me is people know that they they'll all say,
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But when it actually affects their day to day, they're not picking up on it.
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And I'm not suggesting the numbers in the ICU or hospitals or anything are fake.
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I understand that we have lots of hospital overload.
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I'm not questioning that, nor am I being uncompassionate towards that.
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The question is not whether we feel anything at all for these people that are suffering.
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It's whether we believe, like you said, the right way forward.
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I'm a little more mad and would be more tempted to be angry at hospital administration
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or health bureaucrats making policy than I would at my friend or neighbor who decided
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to not be vaccinated for whatever reason, especially being at, what, 80 percent almost now.
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And if you're not on board or you have one criticism, you're a bad person.
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I have to give the mainstream media credit, which I hate to do.
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You've really just managed to create this entire wall of fear.
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So I guess good for them, if that's a compliment they want to hear.
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Way to divide the whole society and ruin families.
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Well, and I also resent the stigmatizing of people who have made a different medical choice
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and other people as responsible for the collapse of the health care system.
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This whole narrative that it is a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
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The pandemic is a pandemic of a failure of politicians who are in charge of the medical system, who had 20 months to ramp up ICU capacity and who did, in fact, the opposite.
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Now you're scapegoating innocent people, sick people for your failure.
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Across the world, when you look at the way that other countries are handling this, many are now saying, okay, this is endemic.
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Like, we can't vaccinate our way out of this, unfortunately.
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We're going to bring up, you know, ICU surge capacity.
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I think back to, say, World War I, for example, or World War II.
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And you have to also be prepared, if whatever you're doing isn't working, to have a plan B.
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I'm not a rocket scientist, but I don't think that that's such a hard concept to understand, that you don't ever put all your eggs in one basket.
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And, unfortunately, socialized medicine in Canada, despite the fact that people touted as the best, is not the best in the world.
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I had to go get surgery in the States in June because of issues with our system.
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And long before this pandemic ever hit, we have had horrible wait times.
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I think some of the highest wait times in the industrialized world for Canadians dealing with health care.
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As far as bad wait times go, you guys are the best.
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And we've allowed at least some private options for MRIs and things like that.
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Also fascinating on the front of universal health care and the positives or negatives,
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the biggest advocates for our health care system, no one left behind.
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It's not a you're all covered except you and you and you.
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It is the foundation of our health care system.
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But we have people saying, well, because of this one medical choice, you don't deserve health care.
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That I've seen that way too many times, not just from random people on Twitter, mainstream media pushing this idea that maybe, you know,
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maybe the people that aren't vaccinated shouldn't get health care or they should have to pay for it.
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Not recognizing, I mean, we literally can't deny somebody who has been convicted with knowingly spreading HIV,
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It would never have been OK to have this discussion about any other group, whether it be addicts or people that drive terribly and are constantly driving drunk.
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You don't get to play God and decide who deserves it.
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But these are the ideas and the questions that we shouldn't even have to...
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We shouldn't be having these ethical discussions.
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It should just be a given that universal health care is universal.
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And if you're arguing for what they're arguing for, you're actually arguing for private care, which, hey, let's have that debate.
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But most of them are hypocrites and they don't want private care.
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They just want to be able to say who deserves it and who doesn't.
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And I'd say fascist wannabe because most of these people aren't that impressive when it comes to how they execute it.
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You know, it's funny because a lot of the same people saying, oh, if you're not vaccinated, you shouldn't be able to get a ventilator if you need one.
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But these are the same people who would advocate for a supervised drug injection site where the government is not only providing the building, the nurses to oversee it, but also the drugs.
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But they would say, well, that's risk mitigation and that's health care.
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But someone who is gravely ill and needs a ventilator or at least an ICU bed to save their life.
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Well, if you're unvaccinated, sorry, it goes to a vaccinated person.
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That's I mean, we just have to look at the treatment of a high profile anti-lockdown activist in Saskatchewan and how the doctors there are treating him on Twitter.
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Yeah, there's some really amazing ethics being displayed by professionals that should know better, put it that way.
00:27:34.140
Now, I'm taking up a lot of your time and I don't want to do that because you've got Rebel News to do.
00:27:40.220
So I wanted to ask you, going forward, what are some of the things that are sort of in your wheelhouse?
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Because we get a lot of freedom here at Rebel News to talk about things that matter to us.
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Well, for now, I mentioned to Ezra, like the lockdown stuff is big, lockdowns, vaccines, COVID mandates.
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And because it's coming down so heavy handed in Saskatchewan and elsewhere, of course, but I think Saskatchewan is more strict on certain policies than in other places, even in the country, let alone the world.
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I want to focus on the real stories of how that's affecting people getting fired, people being isolated, discriminated against in multiple ways.
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There's so many ways in my own personal life and people that I know and love that are being affected and then hearing these horror stories.
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So that's what I really want to focus on is humanizing these terrible, terrible policy decisions and showing what a vaccine mandate actually looks like.
00:28:34.180
Not just this theory of we're keeping people safe, which don't even get me started.
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I don't think it's going to actually change anything as far as numbers in hospitals go.
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We think we're doing something measure and we don't care how much it hurts people as long as we feel like it might do something.
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But but hopefully that won't be something that we're talking about forever.
00:28:53.400
However, I'd like to get into all manners of political and social discussion, same stuff I did on my channel.
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So anything that I feel is is changing or shifting the culture.
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Those are the things I think are the most important, not just the politics, but how our culture is going, because it's all connected.
00:29:10.960
Big I have big interest in things like the transitioning of children, gender dysphoria, that discussion.
00:29:16.380
That's a that's a big one for me, just my own women's health issues.
00:29:20.100
I find it appalling what's happening with sort of the the the pronoun brigade, I guess you could call them.
00:29:28.340
I do like to discuss climate change, environmentalism policy, not because I'm an expert, but because I'm someone who considers herself a conservationist, as many conservatives are.
00:29:37.320
It's a complete lie that we don't care about the environment.
00:29:40.020
Most farmers, for example, their whole life is based on taking care of their environment.
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And everything, their income, their bread and butter is based on knowing the environment and climate intimately.
00:29:50.560
Right. So it's a complete misnomer that we don't care.
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So I like to talk about policies that work versus the ones that don't.
00:29:56.520
And and that really does span across anything politically, because I always try to take the view of someone who can see both sides and trying to talk to people with sensitive hearts, because there's lots of people out there that are just getting mauled by nice words.
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Right. So that's what I want to talk about is all the different ways we see people's empathy being used and abused in this country and elsewhere.
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So, you know, I think that's a great approach, especially, you know, as you were writing, I think it was Andrew Breitbart or as you were talking, I was writing, I think it was Andrew Breitbart who said that politics are downstream of culture.
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And I guess the moral of that is fight the culture war and the politics, the political war will fix itself.
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And I think we're oftentimes we're late to the game.
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But we we were sort of we're late because the culture shifted far earlier.
00:30:53.980
And that's where we should have been waging our war, sort of fighting in the in the first ditch.
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So I think our Rebel News viewers are going to love you as much as I do and just get out there and fight for Saskatchewan.
00:31:15.220
Awesome. Well, thank you for the kind, kind words.
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It's really been a wonderful welcome from all the people across the board.
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Rebel is a great organization and I'm proud to be a part of it.
00:31:33.500
Now, much to my great regret, Saskatchewan has been somewhat neglected by me.
00:31:51.260
There's just so much news here that we need somebody who cares about Saskatchewan to be able to cover it in the way that our flat province to the east of me deserves.
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And I know Kelly's the exact woman for the job.
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Like I told her, I cannot wait to see what she does next.
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I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.
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And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.