Rebel News Podcast - March 22, 2023


SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Trudeau pumps the brakes on his latest gun grab


Episode Stats

Length

36 minutes

Words per Minute

170.97966

Word Count

6,290

Sentence Count

378

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary

Sheila Gunn-Reed has been a pistol shooter in the U.S. Olympic team for the past four years, and she s the only American woman to have won a Gold medal in Pistol Shooting at the Olympics. She s also the president of the National Firearms Association and a leading gun rights advocate in the pro-Second Amendment movement.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The liberals have briefly capitulated to pushback from the firearms community on their latest gun grab.
00:00:06.680 How long is this going to last?
00:00:08.180 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gun Show.
00:00:10.660 I had a few questions about Olympic participation.
00:00:40.660 So how many go to the Olympics with you when you go?
00:00:48.920 So the last two Olympics, I was the only pistol shooter.
00:00:51.580 So the last two years, I was the only pistol shooter.
00:01:09.580 Previous to that in 2012, there was only one pistol shooter as well.
00:01:13.480 I think that we've had a pistol shooter in the Olympics.
00:01:16.220 Every Summer Olympics, I'm going to say since at least probably the early 80s when they kind of split off men and women's events.
00:01:28.260 They've definitely had women in every event, I think, since 1984.
00:01:32.160 There was even a gold medal at the 1984 Olympics in women's pistol shooting.
00:01:35.960 There's also been a long history of male pistol shooters as well.
00:01:40.840 We have, since they changed the rules for how we qualify, there's been smaller shooting teams.
00:01:45.980 I think, since 1996, based on how qualifications work.
00:01:52.060 But prior to that, there was significant shooting teams across the rifle, the pistol, and the shotgun disciplines that are available within the shooting sports.
00:02:01.060 And I think I could be wrong, but we've been participating as Canada in shooting sports since the early 1900s for sure.
00:02:09.800 The numbers I got were 16 in pistol shooting and 84 with long guns.
00:02:18.800 So we're not talking about a lot of people here, but there is an exemption for elite Olympic shooters like yourself, is there not?
00:02:25.700 Sure there is, but how do you become an elite pistol shooter without training?
00:02:30.320 How do you become an elite pistol shooter?
00:02:32.300 Do you just come off the street and say, you know what, I think I'm going to be an Olympic volleyball player today?
00:02:38.060 It takes years of training.
00:02:39.400 It takes years of work and effort to put into it.
00:02:42.920 There's the rule of about 10,000 hours to become an expert in anything.
00:02:46.640 And yet, we're going to limit the people who are allowed to have an exemption to people who are already champions, who are already winning, who are already Olympians.
00:02:53.800 That means that you get rid of the entire sport.
00:02:55.940 How do you prove that you want to become a professional or Olympian in something before you actually can prove that you are?
00:03:02.420 But what we're talking about is 16 people in the entire country.
00:03:07.740 And right now, it's just you.
00:03:10.880 You're talking about 16 people who have become an Olympians.
00:03:13.460 Do you understand how many other people who have been competing against them?
00:03:16.640 There's a huge amount of people competing against them.
00:03:18.760 We have teams.
00:03:19.860 I have teammates that I train with all the time who have not made the Olympic level yet, but yet you're going to restrict their equipment to say that they can never achieve?
00:03:28.320 That makes no sense.
00:03:30.460 It's like telling soccer players that you want to be a soccer player, but you have to be an Olympic soccer player before you can actually have a ball.
00:03:38.980 That's what you're saying.
00:03:39.560 It's not.
00:03:40.120 I mean, gun rangers are still allowed to import, buy and sell, import and buy pistols as well.
00:03:48.800 But I mean, I.
00:03:52.300 Well, you just saw there is a clip from a SECU hearing.
00:03:56.460 So SECU is shorthand for the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security.
00:04:04.180 And that was an Olympic sports shooter telling the liberals that your ban on handguns is going to destroy the sport for me, but basically outlaw the sport for any prospective Canadian going forward.
00:04:19.100 Because how do they practice their sport?
00:04:21.220 How do you even get into the sport?
00:04:23.060 If the tool you need to do the sport no longer exists.
00:04:26.740 And that was a liberal, Pam Danoff, having absolutely no idea how to respond to that because she hadn't even thought of that.
00:04:33.900 Because I'm not sure she has even really thought about this issue at all beyond standard liberal talking points that say fewer guns means safer people.
00:04:44.480 And we know that it's just not true because when the liberals say fewer guns, they don't really mean fewer guns.
00:04:50.360 They mean fewer guns in the hands of the law abiding.
00:04:52.200 They don't really seem to be all that focused on getting them out of the hands of the bad guys.
00:04:56.600 Now, joining me today is Rick Igersich.
00:05:00.000 He's the president of the National Firearms Association.
00:05:02.740 And his team has been pushing back on this issue.
00:05:06.060 Well, since always, it's why they exist.
00:05:08.020 But really leading the charge at SECU.
00:05:09.880 So let's hear from Rick.
00:05:14.480 So joining me now is good friend of the show, Rick Igersich.
00:05:22.040 He's the president of the National Firearms Association.
00:05:24.840 And it's to my great embarrassment that it's been a while since Rick's been on the show.
00:05:28.980 And I wanted to have him back on because things are changing with firearms legislation and firearms rights.
00:05:34.120 It seems as though we had a bit of a win back in January as the public pushed back against the liberals' latest attempts to ban your lawfully obtained property.
00:05:44.480 But again, the liberals, not ones to be deterred from their own bad ideas.
00:05:51.300 They are still pushing headlong into the latest gun grab.
00:05:54.740 Rick, thanks for coming on the show.
00:05:57.360 Tell us what changed in January and now sort of what's happening in gun control legislation here in Canada.
00:06:05.160 Thanks for having me on again, Sheila.
00:06:06.960 Well, there's, you know, we haven't done anything together for a while, but we've been both pretty busy.
00:06:12.740 There's a lot of stuff going on in the gun world right now.
00:06:15.920 The big thing right now is Bill C-71.
00:06:18.560 Bill C-71, as most people know, it all started with the first reading of C-71, then finally it's in sec here right now.
00:06:29.560 But Bill C-71, as most people know, is the complete ban on the movement of handguns in Canada.
00:06:35.940 And that includes you can't air, you can't give away, you can't sell, you can't do anything with your handguns.
00:06:40.800 Basically, it's yours till you pass away, then it goes back to the government for destruction.
00:06:46.260 But with that bill, there's all kinds of other stuff going on.
00:06:50.280 As the Liberals have been pushing, the big thing, I guess, we'll just cut to the chase.
00:06:56.220 At the 11th hour, they decided to add a couple amendments to the bill.
00:07:00.380 The first was G-4, which is what they call their evergreen amendment, which describes a so-called assault weapon basically by how it looks.
00:07:15.880 Nothing short of ridiculous.
00:07:17.240 There's a definition for assault rifles, military assault rifles.
00:07:21.920 And the ones that Trudeau's Liberals have listed are not military assault rifles.
00:07:27.220 And they're not even close to the same.
00:07:29.640 But anyway, that was the first part.
00:07:32.600 That was the G-4 part of the amendment.
00:07:36.180 And then, like I say, this all happened in the 11th hour.
00:07:39.680 The G-46 amendment, and this was a piece of work.
00:07:43.560 Number one, it added 400 types of basically hunting rifles and shotguns.
00:07:50.220 But with that, you know, that was that number was the actual base copies of these rifles.
00:08:02.320 There was several hundred variants that were attached.
00:08:05.480 The word that the Liberals just love when it comes to firearms is variant.
00:08:09.740 Basically, if it has a muzzle and a stock, it's a variant of something.
00:08:13.060 It's a variant of an assault rifle.
00:08:14.860 Everything is a variant of an AR to these people.
00:08:17.620 Yeah, yeah.
00:08:18.700 So anyway, with that, they added these 400 hunting shotguns and rifles.
00:08:25.240 And firearms, like with a lot of people that are familiar with, is a Ruger number one.
00:08:30.500 A single shot hunting rifle that you have to open the breach, put one cartridge at a time, close the breach and fire.
00:08:37.900 That was on the list.
00:08:39.140 They added a bunch of shotguns that were, Benelli was a real good example.
00:08:45.760 Because it was a gas-operated semi-automatic shotgun, they added a bunch of other shotguns that were gas-operated and semi-automatic.
00:08:54.300 It was just ludicrous.
00:08:55.200 The whole thing was ludicrous.
00:08:56.320 But then it got better.
00:08:57.800 They decided to attach the original order and counsel to G-46.
00:09:02.640 Now, I believe the reason they did that, because when they first did the order and counsel, they were always talking about this buyout or buyback or compensation for your firearms.
00:09:16.840 But I think in a real, they really tried to deceive us by attaching this to G-46, because when they did attach the original order of counsel, there was no mention of any sort of buyback or compensation.
00:09:32.100 So it was a devious move on their part.
00:09:34.560 Luckily, they were getting a lot of pressure from lobby groups like ours, indigenous people, hunters, hunters.
00:09:47.640 A lot of pressure was coming in from hunters.
00:09:50.500 And even some of the liberals in the liberal writings were getting immense pressure from gun owners in their writings.
00:09:58.280 So basically, at the end of the day, they withdrew those two amendments.
00:10:03.480 But that's just a false olive branch, because I'm sure those amendments will be back in the next little while.
00:10:11.680 I was talking to our lobbyists today, and all SECU meetings, like I mentioned earlier, SECU meetings are canceled for this week.
00:10:20.280 I think there's a lot of reasons, and I think the biggest one right now is that they don't know where to go.
00:10:27.680 They've been interviewing a ton of witnesses.
00:10:30.180 Our people have been providing a lot of witnesses, and they're basically unchallenged.
00:10:37.100 Callan Langman, great example.
00:10:39.300 You know, peer-reviewed report that's carved in stone.
00:10:43.920 You know, Dr. Callan Langman, you can't challenge that.
00:10:46.580 But the other one that we jumped on at the NFA was Linda Keiko.
00:10:55.600 She gave evidence, and Pam Damoff challenged her on a bunch of points.
00:11:01.380 And she had all the answers.
00:11:03.540 And basically, without exaggerating, had Pam Damoff stuttering because she didn't know how to respond to her.
00:11:11.520 You know, she mentioned Pam Damoff, well, there's only 16 Olympic – it's all about this – I should probably clarify that first.
00:11:18.460 It's all about this clause in the amendment where they would still provide firearms or allow Olympic shooters to obtain firearms.
00:11:26.880 But with that, their argument with that was, well, you know, she asked Linda how many female Olympic shooters are there in Canada.
00:11:34.660 Well, Linda says, well, I'm the only one.
00:11:36.400 She says, well, you know, she thought, well, you know, I got you there.
00:11:40.720 And then, well, she said, well, my research shows that – this is Pam Damoff speaking.
00:11:44.640 I'm quoting Pam Damoff.
00:11:45.800 My research shows that there are 16 Olympic shooters in Canada right now.
00:11:51.240 Then it goes back to Linda, and Linda makes a statement.
00:11:53.440 Well, yeah, there's 16 people.
00:11:56.200 But how do you get there?
00:11:57.480 How do you get these firearms to become an Olympic shooter?
00:12:00.260 How do you find people to train with to get up to that elite level of shooting?
00:12:07.300 There's hundreds, if not thousands, of people involved in just the Olympic side of things.
00:12:11.680 And it's just not Olympic shooting.
00:12:12.840 There's IPSC, IDPA.
00:12:14.380 There's a bunch of other world-sanctioned events that use handguns.
00:12:21.280 So at the end of the day, you know, Pam Damoff didn't really have any sort of rebuttal to that.
00:12:28.240 And, you know, it's small stuff like that, Sheila, that with these meetings that, you know, they bring this stuff to the forefront.
00:12:36.880 And then they ask these questions.
00:12:38.260 Then they get beat up on it.
00:12:40.420 Then they go away for a week and come back with a bunch of new stuff.
00:12:43.140 I'm just sitting here like I have been for the last few months waiting for the next batch to come out.
00:12:48.520 You know, that's the thing.
00:12:49.800 I said to you off camera, it's like people who've never even seen a car, let alone driven a car in their lives, making the rules of the road.
00:12:56.820 And that's what we've got as firearms owners in this country.
00:12:59.940 When we're dealing with the liberals trying to write gun control legislation, they have no idea even what the existing legislation is.
00:13:08.660 I mean, basically, they're saying that this is the last generation of Olympic sports shooters.
00:13:13.820 That's what this law creates.
00:13:15.560 I wanted to ask you, we touched, you mentioned very briefly on the cost of the buyback program.
00:13:22.440 The liberals are saying it's $200 million to buy back, which I think is a bad way to describe them confiscating and compensating the victims of the confiscation because they never owned these things in the first place.
00:13:35.200 The parliamentary budget officer says it's going to be close to $800 million if history repeats itself.
00:13:43.800 And with the liberals, it's prone to.
00:13:45.580 I think it's probably going to be four times that by the time that we're done.
00:13:49.460 But I went looking for that $200 million estimate.
00:13:53.280 I wanted to know where they got it from.
00:13:55.780 And they can't give me it.
00:13:57.380 I asked public safety for any financial analysis whatsoever on any of their gun control measures dating back to January 1st, 2020.
00:14:08.240 I tried to catch something from any of these three successive gun grabs.
00:14:13.040 I got seven pages of heavily redacted nonsense of just bureaucrats talking in between each other, not a single dollar amount in there.
00:14:20.820 So I don't even know where they started with this $200 million amount.
00:14:25.600 Do you guys have a clue?
00:14:27.380 No, my opinion is they just pulled it out of the air.
00:14:30.920 Number one, you know, with this, you know, going back to the original order and counsel that's up over 1,800 types of firearms, types and variants of firearms right now.
00:14:41.820 Number one, the only ones they have on the record are the AR-15s.
00:14:46.680 They're the only ones that were registered.
00:14:49.740 In my humble opinion, they don't even know how many of these other firearms are out there.
00:14:54.860 So how can you come up with a number when you, number one, you don't know how many of these firearms you're buying.
00:15:01.880 You know, if, if, if everybody, if everybody complies with the law and decides to turn this in, there, there could be hundreds of thousands.
00:15:07.620 If, if tens of thousands of these firearms show up that they, they don't even know that are in the country right now and who's in possession.
00:15:14.800 That's such a good point because these guys are banning the SKS.
00:15:19.540 They have no idea how many of those are in the country.
00:15:22.880 They've moved things from completely just go to the gun store, buy one, go to a gun show, buy one to, you can't own them anymore.
00:15:32.560 How the hell are they ever going to find them?
00:15:35.040 And as you say, they're banning things that they don't even realize they're banning like airsoft guns.
00:15:40.540 So how do you, how are you compensating people for, how are you able to measure the value of the compensation program when you don't even know what you've banned to be compensating people for?
00:15:50.820 Well, you know, and, and, and, and that's a, that's a great point with the SKS.
00:15:54.620 You know, I, you know, we, we, we spoke about this before you and I, and you were, you were under the impression there's about 200,000.
00:16:00.980 And I thought there was a lot more.
00:16:02.420 I think it's close to a million.
00:16:04.020 Yeah.
00:16:05.020 And nobody, nobody knows because back in the day, those things used to come by the crates.
00:16:09.060 And I remember you could, you could go to Canadian tire.
00:16:11.100 If you bought one for $149, you could buy a, if you bought a whole crate of them, you could buy them for $99 a piece.
00:16:17.480 And they were just coming in left, right and center into Canada.
00:16:20.200 So how many is out there?
00:16:21.340 Nobody knows.
00:16:23.260 Airsoft prime example, you know, these, these guys, and I've, I've spoke to a bunch of airsoft people in Ontario here.
00:16:31.840 And they spend more on these airsoft rifles than some of us do on our hunting rifles.
00:16:37.200 It's, it's amazing.
00:16:38.220 The money, these people and the money they put back into the economy is, is, is crazy.
00:16:43.520 And the, if they ban these airsoft rifle, there's no mention of compensation for airsoft anywhere.
00:16:50.200 Actually, like I said earlier with, if they, if they attach the OIC to, to one of their amendments on C21, I realistically believe that they're trying to get around this whole buyback thing.
00:17:02.840 You know, I don't, I don't think they want to pay any compensation.
00:17:05.540 Number one, like you mentioned, they don't even have a clue on how many of these rifles are out there.
00:17:10.740 And, you know, this could lead to the millions and billions of dollars.
00:17:13.860 You know, how do you put an estimate on something like that?
00:17:15.920 Sheila, I have, you know, it just, it's, it's, it's the, it goes back to the same old liberal thing.
00:17:22.800 You know what, we'll, we'll, we'll make up a bunch of numbers.
00:17:25.040 We'll make up a bunch of, well, the bureaucrats and the politicians will make up a bunch of rules and we'll apply them.
00:17:31.720 And, and Canadians, Canadians will go for it just, just because that's what Canadians do.
00:17:37.140 Well, I think they're seeing a little shift in that now, you know, with what's been going on in the last couple of years.
00:17:42.720 You know, it's not just the firearms or the airsoft for that matter.
00:17:47.480 It's the businesses that are being destroyed by this too.
00:17:50.040 You know, Wolverine Arms is a great example of this.
00:17:54.040 You know, they make one variant or a couple of variants and they're both outlawed.
00:17:59.040 So their business is being destroyed.
00:18:01.280 Airsoft is, it's not just the guns.
00:18:05.860 It's the facility.
00:18:07.760 It's the property.
00:18:09.420 I know there's a airsoft place that's just sort of north of where I am.
00:18:13.460 My kids love to go there.
00:18:15.380 And it's an enormous property.
00:18:17.640 So much work has been put into it.
00:18:20.040 And if the liberals get their way, that guy's business is completely destroyed.
00:18:24.940 And he's stuck with property in the middle of nowhere that he can't use now.
00:18:29.780 Exactly.
00:18:30.340 And, you know, we're forgetting one thing also, the logistics on this whole thing.
00:18:34.120 How much money is it going to cost them to go out and start collecting these guns and storing them and allegedly destroying them?
00:18:44.020 How much money is that going to cost?
00:18:45.360 You know, four provinces have already said they're not going to use police resources, police resources to start going around and start confiscating these guns.
00:18:57.320 Unfortunately, Ontario, Doug Ford, Ontario hasn't jumped on board yet.
00:19:00.220 I don't know why, but I've got my ideas.
00:19:03.160 I, you know, it's all about federal funding and stuff, but it just the resources this is going to take.
00:19:09.940 I don't think I don't think they took into account anything more than let's let's let's have another political wedge issue and use firearms.
00:19:19.800 I think I think that's what they jumped into and without thinking anything out, in my opinion.
00:19:25.360 You're telling me the liberals didn't think anything out in advance.
00:19:28.340 Rick, are you crazy?
00:19:31.180 Yeah.
00:19:31.840 You know, it is.
00:19:33.160 I live in one of those provinces where our premier is standing up to the feds on this issue and saying, like, look, we in our communities, we have real problems, opioids, crime that, you know, we can't be wasting strained police resources on going after people.
00:19:49.140 Who weren't criminals yesterday and confiscating their property.
00:19:52.560 And it puts the police, especially in rural communities, in a very, very difficult position because, you know, many of them are sports shooters and hunters just like us.
00:20:04.000 You don't get into policing, I think, by and large to go around hassling the law abiding.
00:20:10.160 You want to put dirt bags behind bars.
00:20:12.040 And I think it's so demoralizing to good cops to have to be faced with with doing these sorts of things to their neighbors.
00:20:21.380 Yeah.
00:20:21.940 You know, and the thing is, you know, you're talking about the West and Saskatchewan and Alberta, the rural areas, you know, sometimes from what I've been hearing from my people is sometimes, you know, you have you have to call the police.
00:20:33.340 So they don't show up for two or three hours or the next day.
00:20:35.600 So they don't even have the resources to go out where there's a real crime being committed.
00:20:40.180 So how are they going to go out and go from, you know, basically it's going to be have to be door to door because unless it's a registered firearm.
00:20:48.060 Right.
00:20:48.380 How do they, how do they know what you have?
00:20:50.300 You know, they're, they're counting on Canadians to, you know, just to bow down and just, and, you know, just give everything back.
00:20:58.720 But even the people that decide to do that, how are they going to, how are they going to, you know, what there's nothing in place that they could go to collect all these firearms.
00:21:09.680 Like, like we talked about earlier about SKS is I'm sure that most rural people in Saskatchewan, Alberta and Manitoba and, and the territories and the Yukon, I'm sure every, I'm sure every second or third household has an SKS.
00:21:26.200 So how do you go out and ban, how do you, how do you go out and seize that?
00:21:29.220 I have, you know, it just, the whole, when you look at it, you know, somebody looking from the outside of the big picture of this, it just, it just, it's a, it's a big mess that nobody,
00:21:38.580 they don't know what direction anything's going to go, but they're just guessing at everything.
00:21:44.100 Well, and, you know, it was really a solution in search of a problem.
00:21:47.980 When you look at the people that the liberals were consulting with versus the people they weren't consulting with on their gun control legislation,
00:21:54.460 they weren't consulting with sports shooters, hunters, Olympians, the trappers, the Fur Institute of Canada, indigenous groups.
00:22:05.840 They didn't really consult with any of them.
00:22:07.500 They were consulting with liberal academics and busybodies, feminist groups, lawyers in urban municipalities,
00:22:17.420 doctors who are very agenda driven.
00:22:21.520 They're the same climate change doctors that are wanting to ban your guns.
00:22:25.040 They were consulting with all of those people.
00:22:27.660 And again, when you have all of those people who have never been in a room with a gun,
00:22:32.280 telling you what the laws are, when they don't know what the laws are,
00:22:35.720 you just end up with this absolute disaster of legislation, what we're seeing before us.
00:22:40.560 Yeah.
00:22:40.800 You know, a real good example, you know,
00:22:42.500 just the people they were consulting with and the public safety minister, Marco Mendocino,
00:22:47.920 you know, when,
00:22:48.300 when all these SECU meetings were going on,
00:22:50.020 decided to go up to the territories to a, to an, I don't know if it was an Inuit village or whatever it was.
00:22:57.980 And basically it was nothing but a big photo op for him.
00:23:01.180 You know, he, they made it look like, oh yeah, you know, he's out in the cold and, you know,
00:23:05.020 he's showing these rifles and everybody was everybody was showing them their rifles and they need these to survive and stuff.
00:23:10.160 But I think what really happened was he walked off the plane,
00:23:13.360 put on a bunch of furs and stuff and stood there for five minutes and talk to a couple of village elders and,
00:23:20.440 you know, ask them what guns they use to,
00:23:23.920 to provide sustenance to their people and basically jumped back on the plane and flew back to Ottawa.
00:23:29.800 It's, it was all nothing but a giant photo op that, that, that's all it was.
00:23:34.520 And that's, you know, and that brings up my next point.
00:23:37.160 This is all, this isn't about guns.
00:23:39.560 This isn't about public safety.
00:23:40.780 This is all about trying to get elected in the next election.
00:23:45.200 I think every time we've spoke, Sheila,
00:23:47.340 we've always mentioned that Justin Trudeau gets,
00:23:51.320 gets in some hot water and he goes to the firearms owners as a scapegoat every time without fail.
00:23:57.220 So, but what I've been seeing, and I'm sure this is happening all across the country.
00:24:01.620 I've been talking to my directors.
00:24:03.040 People are starting to finally wake up and say, Hey, you know what?
00:24:07.220 Every time there's election, you try to lay down some ridiculous laws on law abiding,
00:24:14.440 law abiding Canadians, as far as firearms go.
00:24:18.120 We're tired of it.
00:24:19.160 We need to, we need to, we need to speak about the real issues, not,
00:24:23.360 not using the firearms issue as a, as a wedge issue every election.
00:24:27.600 I think, I think that, that in my opinion, this is where all of this is going is towards
00:24:32.080 the next election to try to get himself elected.
00:24:34.640 Yeah.
00:24:35.140 I mean, he's got to get elected through Toronto and Toronto is plagued by gun crime.
00:24:41.760 And it's really easy to go after the law abiding, as opposed to actually deal with what is causing
00:24:47.060 the increase in gang violence in Toronto.
00:24:49.560 And it has a lot to do with Justin Trudeau's open border policies, where guns are, illegal
00:24:54.840 guns are coming back and forth between Canada and the United States.
00:24:58.520 And, you know, crime is just exploding because of it.
00:25:02.200 And then there's all the other things they're not dealing with, like the opioid crisis,
00:25:05.220 which leads to gang violence.
00:25:07.260 This is, it's a larger systemic societal problem that has nothing to do with me or you, Rick,
00:25:14.120 but we're the easy guys to go after.
00:25:16.360 Yeah.
00:25:16.860 You know, and food for thought, if they were to take this money, these, you know, they're
00:25:20.920 talking millions, I'm talking probably over a billion dollars and to, for these gun seizures
00:25:26.740 and, and, you know, put that into, put that into a crime prevention.
00:25:31.800 I think they'd be, I think the country would be a lot better off, you know, focus on the
00:25:36.380 gangs and guns and the organized crime, focus on the, on the, on the smuggled firearms.
00:25:41.800 Don't focus on the ones where you know where they are and, and daily vetted Canadians, you
00:25:48.520 know, focus, put your focus to where it belongs, but somehow they refuse to do that.
00:25:53.320 Somehow they, they seem to think they need to go after people like you and I, Sheila.
00:25:57.640 Well, Rick, I think that's a great place to leave this interview.
00:26:01.120 Although I won't leave it until like four months to let it talk to you again.
00:26:04.980 And I'm very sorry about that, but tell us what you guys are working on at the NFA.
00:26:10.120 I know there's some things sort of that you're working on behind the scenes and want to tip
00:26:13.320 the bad guys off about, but how do people support the work that you're doing and get
00:26:18.960 involved with the NFA?
00:26:20.380 Right now, right now we're really focused in Ottawa.
00:26:22.960 We're, we're lobbying MPs of all colors.
00:26:27.780 The results with our lobbying has been pretty good lately.
00:26:30.620 Uh, there's been some NDPs and some liberals that have been talking to us.
00:26:35.360 Um, you know, our focus, our focus right now is in Ottawa, uh, definitely for SECU.
00:26:39.700 Uh, we have our legal team, uh, we have our legal team working, uh, countless hours coming
00:26:46.100 up with, uh, with, uh, stuff that, uh, that the, the CPC can use to challenge, uh, challenge
00:26:53.000 the other parties at SECU.
00:26:54.260 Uh, right now we're, uh, we're fanning out across the country.
00:26:58.080 We're hitting gun shows.
00:26:59.200 We're hitting, we're hitting basically every event we can to, uh, to talk to people, to
00:27:03.660 get people's concerns.
00:27:04.760 And, you know, and, and, uh, it's a shameless membership drive because we need, we need members
00:27:11.840 to fight this and we need to know who's out there that, that this is affecting.
00:27:15.880 And that's our big thing right now.
00:27:17.180 We're, uh, you know, we're definitely, uh, pushing hard in Ottawa, but we're also, we're
00:27:21.260 also hitting social media hard, uh, we've been, uh, we've been releasing a lot of stuff
00:27:26.500 that's getting a lot of views.
00:27:28.220 Uh, you know, if, uh, if somebody wants to have a look at our last, uh, one of our last
00:27:32.620 videos with, uh, with, uh, the Keiko video that where she challenged Pam Damoff, it's
00:27:37.340 over 300,000 views.
00:27:38.800 And that's basically unheard of for a gun organization in Canada, but people are starting
00:27:42.580 to take notice.
00:27:43.640 And anyway, the ways you can help number one, uh, if there is an election, get out and vote,
00:27:49.800 don't sit there and, uh, be an armchair quarterback, get out and vote.
00:27:53.480 And number two, join a gun, join a gun lobby like the NFA.
00:27:57.780 Uh, you know, it's not that expensive.
00:28:00.120 All the money goes towards, uh, towards, uh, firearms rights.
00:28:04.120 Uh, you know, follow us on, uh, follow us on our social media, uh, on YouTube where we're,
00:28:10.420 we're putting stuff out all the time.
00:28:12.240 We're informing people all the time.
00:28:14.160 Information is key in this whole, in this whole thing.
00:28:17.340 If we can get people educated and informed, you know, we can stop these liberals in their
00:28:23.160 tracks.
00:28:23.560 And that's, uh, then that's what the, that's the way that's, uh, where the NFA is, uh,
00:28:28.340 there we're working towards that right now.
00:28:30.260 You know, it's, it's true that even if you are not touched by this gun grab yet, you will
00:28:38.580 be.
00:28:39.120 Um, there were a lot of sports shooters and hunters who thought, well, I don't own a handgun.
00:28:44.520 So this doesn't really affect me.
00:28:47.280 I'm fine.
00:28:48.460 Pretty soon the liberals came for them too.
00:28:50.960 So even if you are not one of those people who is directly affected by this gun grab,
00:28:56.200 and I frankly don't know how you couldn't be if you're a firearms owner, um, eventually
00:29:00.500 they will come for you too.
00:29:02.120 Yeah.
00:29:02.220 You know, and that's, that's a whole nother show about this, uh, without, with this handgun
00:29:05.380 freeze, you know, what's going to happen with this stuff.
00:29:08.000 There's nothing in place for that either.
00:29:09.340 You know, there's people, you know, just, just, uh, just a quick, uh, there's, there's,
00:29:13.820 there's people that are passing away every day and these guns are kind of sitting in limbo
00:29:17.360 right now in the States and stuff, you know, there's nothing in, there's nothing in place
00:29:20.740 with this stuff right now.
00:29:21.600 So, you know, that, that's a whole nother, that's a whole nother show though, Sheila,
00:29:25.520 if we can't, there's just not enough time in a day to talk about all this stuff.
00:29:29.560 Well, Rick, we'll make time very soon.
00:29:32.320 Thank you so much for coming on the show.
00:29:34.140 We'll have you back on, like I said, very soon.
00:29:36.360 There's so much to talk about.
00:29:37.800 Yeah.
00:29:38.020 Thank you, Sheila.
00:29:38.720 Thanks for having me again.
00:29:46.900 Well, friends, we've come to the portion of the show where I invite your viewer feedback.
00:29:50.620 I know I say this every week and it's probably getting pretty redundant, but I actually care
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00:30:06.320 Sometimes more people are paying attention to us than the mainstream media, but we want
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00:30:27.920 I'll give you my email address right now.
00:30:29.780 I've got a pen.
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00:30:32.320 Put gun show letters in the subject line so it's easier for me to find, not because I'm
00:30:36.680 lazy, but because I get oh so many emails in a day.
00:30:40.240 But also, you know what?
00:30:41.480 If you're watching us on YouTube in the free version of the show or over on Rumble, just
00:30:49.200 leave a question or a comment there.
00:30:51.640 I go looking over there sometimes, which is exactly where I get today's, I guess it's a
00:30:58.380 comment from, and it's on last week's show.
00:31:02.300 Now, last week's show was with my friend Chris Sims from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
00:31:06.760 We try to be in the same place at the same time sometimes because we often, when we're
00:31:12.000 out in the world, get mistaken for each other.
00:31:14.900 I get mistaken for Chris Sims.
00:31:16.620 Chris Sims gets mistaken for me.
00:31:17.980 I guess tax-hating, small government, female conservatives with dark hair who sometimes
00:31:27.760 wear glasses, we can be a little interchangeable.
00:31:30.400 I get it.
00:31:30.800 I don't take offense.
00:31:31.800 I've been mistaken for worse people.
00:31:33.700 That's for darn sure.
00:31:35.260 But anyway, on last week's show, we were talking about how in Alberta we have recently posted
00:31:40.520 a $10.3 billion budgetary surplus and half of it is set for debt repayment and the other
00:31:47.900 half, which I think is brilliant, is restrained so that the government can only spend it on
00:31:53.120 certain things in certain ways.
00:31:54.500 They just can't, you know, spray it in the air.
00:31:58.560 But the NDP here in Alberta, that's what they want to do.
00:32:02.260 So this is important because we are approaching our election in the spring here in Alberta.
00:32:09.160 We're about two months out, not even.
00:32:11.220 I think it's maybe a little more.
00:32:13.000 It's just a little under 70 days before we go to the polls and the NDP are really promising
00:32:20.040 to buy everybody's love with other people's money.
00:32:24.080 And they would have liked to have seen this $10.3 billion surplus just blown, ideally on
00:32:29.540 the public sector and government workers and inefficient government programs, obviously.
00:32:34.740 The NDP, they're socialists, right?
00:32:36.360 Grow government, make it really super expensive, and then just rob Peter to pay Paul at the
00:32:43.000 end of the day.
00:32:44.480 And Son of a Hun, if that is even your real name, left this comment on the Rumble video.
00:32:51.720 And it's not a long comment, but it's something that I want to address because I see this sometimes
00:33:01.120 from conservatives, and I just want to point out how crazy it is, even if it's said in
00:33:07.760 jest.
00:33:08.920 So Son of a Hun writes, arrest all NDPers, toss them down to Cuba, not leave the Nazi.
00:33:14.100 Okay.
00:33:15.340 I just want to get the not leave the Nazi thing out of the way.
00:33:18.220 I really, really, really dislike when people throw around that word just willy-nilly because
00:33:26.240 that's what the left does.
00:33:28.740 Anybody with whom they disagree, they call a Nazi.
00:33:32.600 And when you overuse that word on people you disagree with, even if they have totalitarian
00:33:39.340 tendencies, you take the bite out of that word.
00:33:43.880 You dull the edge of the knife of that word.
00:33:47.380 And make it less.
00:33:51.060 And the Nazis were some of the most evil creatures to ever walk the face of the earth.
00:33:57.860 We should reserve that word for them and not use it to people, not use it on people with
00:34:05.300 whom we disagree.
00:34:06.140 Even if, as I said, they have tyrannical control freak tendencies as the NDP tend to do.
00:34:13.000 So, but with regard to the first part, arresting the NDPers and then deporting them to Cuba.
00:34:18.960 Again, this is probably said in jest, but I do see it more than I would like to see it.
00:34:24.380 Are we really going to arrest our political enemies?
00:34:27.320 Do we really want to be like the Democrats right now in the United States threatening
00:34:31.060 to arrest Donald Trump because he is going to be the presumed nominee of the Republican
00:34:37.700 Party?
00:34:38.120 Do we want to be like the Chinese in Hong Kong arresting the freedom leaders?
00:34:44.000 Do we want to be like Justin Trudeau arresting the leadership of the Freedom Convoy?
00:34:50.480 Or Jason Kenney arresting pastors who stood up to his COVID mandates here in Alberta?
00:34:56.160 Or if these are political ideas that we disagree with, wouldn't we use our free speech to debate
00:35:04.280 these people in the free and liberal exchange of ideas in the public square?
00:35:09.340 Which is democracy, freedom, human rights.
00:35:12.580 Like that's what you do in a civilized society.
00:35:15.720 We don't lock up our political opponents.
00:35:18.260 That's what the left does.
00:35:20.360 And tossing them all to Cuba.
00:35:22.280 I mean, probably, I mean, that's, they would like us to all be Cuba.
00:35:27.080 But we don't deport other Canadians for disagreeing with us.
00:35:31.940 Again, we debate their ideas.
00:35:34.780 We argue our ideas because we know they're better.
00:35:37.460 We don't tell people they're less Canadian than us because they share a different political
00:35:42.880 viewpoint.
00:35:43.420 And I know they probably don't feel this way about me.
00:35:45.540 Um, but I don't care because I don't think someone's human rights are contingent on their
00:35:52.720 political ideology.
00:35:54.600 I just, I try not to be like the other side, or at least I do my best not to be like them.
00:36:00.680 Anyway, that's the show for tonight, guys.
00:36:02.220 Thank you so much for tuning in.
00:36:03.360 Thank you to everybody who works behind the scenes to put the show together so that you
00:36:06.680 have a show to watch because sometimes I send in a hot mess and they salvage it and put
00:36:11.960 it together.
00:36:12.600 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.
00:36:15.280 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.
00:36:45.280 Thank you.
00:36:45.780 Thank you.
00:36:46.280 Thank you.