Rebel News Podcast - January 31, 2024


SHEILA GUNN REID | Two-thirds of the vaccine injury support program (VISP) fund went to consultants


Episode Stats

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40 minutes

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146.27422

Word Count

5,942

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321

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

After several years of the federal government telling us that all the COVID vaccines are safe and effective, you would think that you wouldn t need something called the Vaccine Injury Support Program, or VIP, but we have it. However, the VIP program doesn t actually support all that many vaccine injured people. In fact, it seems to support government contractors at a far greater rate than it does support the people who are injured because they had the misfortune of taking a vaccine.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 the vaccine injury support program is a make work project for federal contractors. Joining
00:00:22.120 me today is the journalist who broke the story. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:00:30.000 After several years of the federal government telling us that all the COVID vaccines are
00:00:49.860 quote safe and effective, you would think that you wouldn't need something called the
00:00:55.560 Vaccine Injury Support Program or VISP, but we have it. However, the Vaccine Injury Support Program,
00:01:03.380 well, doesn't actually support all that many vaccine injured people. In fact, it seems to
00:01:08.680 support government contractors at a far greater rate than it does support the people who are
00:01:14.680 injured because they had the misfortune of taking a vaccine. They probably didn't want
00:01:20.100 to prevent unemployment or depression. Now, joining me today is my friend Tamara Ugolini,
00:01:27.540 someone that I repeatedly call Canada's leading medical journalist because she uncovered this
00:01:33.920 absolute boondoggle of the $30 plus million allocated for the Vaccine Injury Support Program. Well,
00:01:43.760 20 million of that has gone to federal contractors to administer the program. It's almost hard to
00:01:51.060 believe, but after nine years of Justin Trudeau in power, is it really all that hard to believe?
00:01:57.800 Here's my conversation I had with my friend and colleague Tamara Ugolini earlier today.
00:02:02.460 Joining me now is my friend and colleague, and I think the person I rely on the most at the company to
00:02:15.800 help me when I am off on other projects, Tamara Ugolini. And from day one, you were a pandemic
00:02:23.340 skeptic. In fact, that's why we hired you. And then once you started seeing what was happening with some of
00:02:29.740 the lockdown adjacent issues like vaccine mandates, you really flew into action, I think, despite what
00:02:38.620 Andre Picard might say, you are Canada's foremost medical journalist in this country. You really
00:02:46.240 have made yourself an expert on these topics. And one of the things that you are really focused like
00:02:51.180 a laser beam on is the Vaccine Injury Support Program. For people who don't know, although I think
00:02:59.380 regular viewers of Rebel News would already know, but tell us what this program is designed to do.
00:03:06.060 Of course. So the Vaccine Injury Support Program, acronymED THIS, was a pandemic-borne support
00:03:13.040 initiative geared toward financially compensating people who have been maimed and or killed by the
00:03:22.080 virus. And they purported to be safe and effective novel COVID-19 injections. The government,
00:03:28.460 federally at least, didn't have any sort of contingency plan in place prior to the rollout
00:03:33.780 of these rushed-to-market products. And so they instituted this VISP program. To my knowledge,
00:03:40.520 the only other place in Canada where this existed previously was in Quebec. And theirs also covered
00:03:47.280 all of the other kind of traditional vaccines, whereas the VISP program is specific to the COVID-19
00:03:54.300 injections. And there's very strict and stringent submission guidelines for people to even be able
00:04:03.300 to start a claim process. For instance, I'll just look at their, pull it directly from their website
00:04:08.680 right now. What constitutes a serious and permanent injury? Well, of course, it must be serious and
00:04:14.880 permanent. It's defined as a severe, life-threatening or life-altering injury that may require in-person
00:04:23.960 hospitalization or a prolongation of existing hospitalization. And, so there's a catch, and
00:04:31.340 results in persistent or significant disability or incapacity or where the outcome is a congenital
00:04:40.360 malformation and, get this, or death. So don't forget that we were PSYOP'd. Essentially, there was a
00:04:49.180 massive psychological operation that went into play late 2020 and early 2021 that coincided with the
00:04:57.380 rollout of these injections that told everybody they were safe and effective. And the idea behind that
00:05:05.380 at the time was, get your shot to protect your community, protect your grandma, be able to gather
00:05:09.940 indoors. There was all of these social stipulations placed on anybody who was deemed a dangerous super
00:05:16.020 spreader, otherwise known as an anti-vaxxer, who said, hold on a minute, I'd like to just wait for maybe
00:05:21.360 the clinical trials to be completed before I decide to go forward with this injection that we really know
00:05:26.520 nothing at that point about. And they were really smeared, slandered, ostracized from society
00:05:33.520 completely. If you remember when the vaccine mandates and the vaccine passports were coming
00:05:37.580 into effect, you couldn't go to the theater with your friends, you couldn't go out for dinner with
00:05:43.460 your spouse, your family. There was even rules and regulations put into place for family gatherings
00:05:49.020 at their homes, Thanksgiving dinner, Christmas dinner, during peak hysteria. And so these shots were really
00:05:55.460 pushed down everybody's throats. And meanwhile, as they're talking out of their mouth that they're
00:06:01.060 so safe and effective, the government is also putting a program in place that compensates people
00:06:06.080 who are injured so severely that they're unable to work, they're unable to keep up with their day-to-day
00:06:12.400 and or they die. And also, we have really been on top of this since the onset, filing access to
00:06:20.100 information requests. And for anybody at home who doesn't know, we have a special portal there
00:06:24.980 called rebelinvestigates.com, where all of our exclusive reports are housed and contained.
00:06:30.720 And what we discovered through those initial access to information requests is that the government had
00:06:35.860 originally planned, and when I say government, I mean specifically Health Canada and the Public Health
00:06:40.540 Agency of Canada, who's responsible for running this program. They originally accounted for or assumed
00:06:49.000 that there would be approximately 400 claims per year. And we discovered that that amount was capped
00:06:54.720 halfway, so six months into the first year of the rule out of this program that came into effect
00:07:01.240 by the summer of 2021. And in those documents, there was a ton of redactions. And something that
00:07:08.960 caught my eye was the difference between where they stated in those response documents that there was
00:07:16.620 ongoing financial support, and so that meant to the victims, versus the cost to administer the program.
00:07:23.800 And there was a massive difference there between what was being allocated to the families versus what
00:07:30.100 was going to the consultancy firm running and administering this program. And so it took almost a
00:07:36.780 year to appeal that and get the redacted documents back uncensored. And what we found was, out of the
00:07:44.900 original $32 million that was allocated the total funding amount to run this program from 2021 until
00:07:53.120 2026, there was approximately 12,000 of that allocated to the actual people suffering from
00:08:00.740 vaccine injury. And the rest, 60%, would end up in the hands of the consultancy firm, Raymond Grant Shabbat
00:08:09.160 Thornton Consultancy Inc., to simply administer the program. And so the vast majority of the funds were not
00:08:15.620 actually reaching the pockets of the victims of this safe and effective marketing scheme, is what I refer to it as,
00:08:22.140 but rather back into the hands of these consultants who also had other conflicts of interest, were pivotal really in
00:08:28.960 supporting the government's institution of the vaccine mandate program for federal workers, et cetera, et cetera.
00:08:34.880 So it's a really twisty, turny program that unfortunately doesn't end up helping the people
00:08:40.800 who are suffering these devastating injuries.
00:08:43.720 So to just clarify the numbers, we've got $32 million for the program in total, which seems actually low.
00:08:51.100 And then we've got $12 million is all that went to the people who were vaccine injured. And we know it's
00:09:00.900 thousands and thousands. And that means a full $20 million went to line the pockets of this
00:09:07.820 consultancy firm. One of the things we saw during the National Citizens Inquiry, the citizen-led inquiry into
00:09:19.380 the government's overreaction into the COVID pandemic was just the sheer difficulty for really, truly,
00:09:30.640 genuinely vaccine-injured people to access this VISP program. People who got blood clots. I know
00:09:40.680 one of my dearest, closest friends. She just, for her, it was a matter of mental health. I need to leave
00:09:48.360 my house and do something normal. She took the vaccine and otherwise healthy young woman, blood clot in
00:09:57.020 her bicep, very close to her heart. Another man that I met at the whistle stop, a young man working in the
00:10:08.940 oil field. The next time I saw him, he is walking with a cane with paralysis on one side of his body
00:10:15.900 because he had a stroke. And these are the people who don't qualify for VISP, even though we know 100%
00:10:25.200 they were vaccine injured. If they're even remotely functioning, they seem to be disregarded as not
00:10:33.360 qualifying for this program. And I want to note here, too, that those numbers that I listed, that was the
00:10:38.680 original budget allocation. Right. We know that as of last month, so December 2023, that the government
00:10:47.940 has already paid out $11 million worth of compensation to the families that have been affected by this safe
00:10:55.300 and effective narrative. And so that is already only $1 million off of what they budgeted for until
00:11:03.480 2026. So we're only about halfway, just a little bit over halfway through this program that's supposed
00:11:09.180 to wrap up in 2026. And already they're going to be at least, I would speculate, twice as much over
00:11:16.620 budget as they originally planned for. So there's that. But, you know, even on the Health Canada website,
00:11:23.580 you can see that there has been almost 58,712 total adverse events reported following immunization
00:11:32.840 with this novel injection. Of those, there were 11,702 that were serious. And serious is really an
00:11:42.840 arbitrary definition that also includes death. But regardless, this VISP program has processed and
00:11:51.940 confirmed a very tiny fraction of those. And we know that according to the FDA, only 1% of adverse
00:11:58.980 events ever go to actually being formally documented and reported. So all of this reflects and represents
00:12:06.740 a mere fraction of, and I would even say a fraction of a fraction of those who have actually been
00:12:12.220 affected by this. And we've reported extensively on the vast amount of vaccine reactions. One of the
00:12:19.180 first stories that I reported on actually was in June or July 2021 and following the first injection of
00:12:25.760 the AstraZeneca vaccine, which thereafter came with hefty safety signals due to thrombosis, as you mentioned,
00:12:32.300 Sheila, clotting. And this gentleman, Kevin Street, was experiencing such debilitating, not only physical,
00:12:39.880 but also neurological symptoms, but also neurological symptoms, that he was actually mentally and
00:12:45.620 psychologically unable to sift through the insane amount of bureaucracy and paperwork needed to even
00:12:54.180 navigate this newly released system. And as you mentioned at the National Citizens Inquiry, one particular
00:13:00.700 woman that I interviewed, Meredith Klitsky, same thing. She was so neurologically hampered by whatever
00:13:08.100 symptoms she was experiencing, that she described the stacks of paperwork that she couldn't even get
00:13:13.360 through on a day-to-day basis because her injury was so debilitating and she had to go through all
00:13:19.220 the rigmarole with a doctor, a specialist, to go to all these appointments. And that's if the doctors
00:13:24.520 will even acknowledge and document these adverse events because they've been so terrified by their
00:13:30.520 regulators to do anything that goes against that safe and effective narrative that many times they
00:13:35.480 just disregard these patients. And again, we've reported extensively on this. There was a pair
00:13:41.040 of nurses that I interviewed in December 2021 from Peterborough Regional Health, the hospital,
00:13:47.600 and they reported that anybody who was coming in saying, hey, these symptoms started after I got
00:13:52.700 my vaccine, they were sent over for a psych consult. So they were, you know, oh, you just have anxiety,
00:13:58.780 we're going to give you some anxiety or antidepressants, anti-anxiety meds or antidepressants, and hopefully
00:14:06.440 that will quell whatever you're experiencing. Like, they were completely disregarded. And again, even Patrick
00:14:13.760 Phillips, I believe that was May of 2021, who said and described how the local medical officers of health
00:14:19.900 were really the gatekeepers into this system because any doctors who reported adverse events had to send it off
00:14:26.600 to the health unit to get the go-ahead, get that green check, before it could go into a further
00:14:32.980 filtering system. So there's a multi-leveled bureaucracy at play here. There's a multi-leveled
00:14:39.040 arbitrary filtering system at play here. At the end of the day, there are, I would speculate to say
00:14:45.380 millions of people suffering various degrees and levels of adverse events who are not covered by any of
00:14:51.940 this reporting system or the vaccine injury support program. Yeah, I mean, we know that they
00:14:57.900 vaccinated the entire military with Moderna. And that was prior to Moderna not being advised for,
00:15:08.380 I think it's young men under the age of 35. Well, guess what the entire military is? And that's why
00:15:13.160 they're experiencing vaccine injuries at a rate way higher than the general population, even with the
00:15:19.340 government's own skewed statistics. And this doesn't take into account the long-term problems that we
00:15:26.100 have no idea how those will manifest. I think there's no possible way that this program should wrap up in
00:15:34.040 2026 because, I mean, that's only five years out really of a vaccine rollout. We don't know what the
00:15:40.640 long-term effects are of this. And then, of course, and then the things I'm going to say are probably going
00:15:45.040 to be the reason we cannot publish the free version of this on YouTube. There are vaccine
00:15:52.240 inconveniences. So, as I would describe them, I mean, they really are vaccine injuries. If you took
00:15:58.200 this vaccine because you were lied to by the government that it was safe and effective and you
00:16:04.060 were not catastrophically injured, but you end up with health ramifications. I know people who have
00:16:10.920 developed allergies out of nowhere midlife for no reason. They just are, all of a sudden, certain
00:16:18.220 things that they've been using, they are allergic to. And there are the women with the changes in their
00:16:25.920 menstrual cycles. Now, that we don't know the long-term effects on fertility, but we do know that
00:16:33.160 that is at least an inconvenient change to your reproductive system and maybe something worse.
00:16:40.960 And something else that we haven't touched on is the rates of myocarditis. So, inflammation of the
00:16:47.340 heart and how affected the circulatory system in general seems to be by these mRNA products. Again,
00:16:54.460 on Health Canada's website here, the total number of events specifically, myo-slash-pericarditis,
00:17:01.960 is just over 12,000. And the vast majority of those cases, if you break it down and look at the
00:17:08.540 provincial data, which has a little bit more robust reporting systems in place, you see that the vast
00:17:14.260 majority of those cases are healthy, young males. So, that sort of prime age 12 to 25, kind of in that
00:17:24.160 sweet spot there, are who has been most damaged by these products. And again, that's an age, a crucial age
00:17:31.780 in development when you're a teenager, you're a young man, to get out into the world and have those
00:17:38.320 social interactions. Those young boys were mandated these shots to do things like play hockey with their
00:17:44.480 teammates. If they didn't, then they wouldn't be able to progress athletically and have any
00:17:51.620 opportunities that were associated with that were basically stolen from them if they didn't comply with
00:17:56.300 this injection mandate. And as a result, a vast majority of them now suffer with long-term and
00:18:03.420 potentially life-threatening and irreversible inflammation of their heart. This is just so
00:18:10.740 disturbing what happened to people, how informed consent was completely validated or was informed
00:18:19.480 consent was not upheld. It was intensely and aggressively infringed upon. And nobody was told,
00:18:28.100 because we didn't know, nobody knew, nobody who was asserting the safety and efficacy of these shots
00:18:33.000 knew that these were the potential consequences or the outcomes, because as I mentioned, those clinical
00:18:38.440 trials were not concluded when they ruled these things out. You know, even the circulatory system,
00:18:45.060 the total number of people suffering circulatory system affected adverse events is 1900. Again,
00:18:53.680 safe and effective. And yet we need a vaccine injury support program in place to deal with the
00:18:59.480 repercussions of this safe and effective shot that also worth mentioning doesn't come out of the
00:19:04.820 pockets of big pharma who made billions and perhaps even trillions off of these injections. This comes
00:19:10.880 from the taxpayer's dollar. This is a taxpayer funded government support program and big pharma gets to
00:19:18.780 laugh all the way to the bank. Oh, that's a great point. The big pharma, the people who injured these
00:19:25.020 people with their enablers in big government, they get off scot-free and they're the ones ultimately
00:19:31.180 responsible, along with the politicians who were coercing people and lying to people about the efficacy of
00:19:38.780 these vaccines. You make an excellent point about the young men, so 12 to 25. They're the people, by and large,
00:19:46.680 who suffer the greatest consequences for getting vaccine, getting the vaccination, and yet they were the ones
00:19:55.220 least susceptible to any sort of catastrophic impacts from COVID-19. It would have been just a cough, the chills,
00:20:03.440 and the sniffles, and they would have been just fine. Instead, they're going to deal with lifelong
00:20:09.500 consequences to their cardiovascular system. It's just atrocious. And one of the things you've really
00:20:16.700 pointed out from the very beginning, and we saw this through order paper questions, is that safe and
00:20:21.620 effective is just a marketing campaign akin to finger licking good. It doesn't actually mean safe and
00:20:30.700 effective. In fact, we've seen through order paper questions that safe meant not that it wouldn't
00:20:38.680 harm you. That's not ever what they tested. And they took the word of the vaccine manufacturers
00:20:45.340 that it was effective, like buying the car off Facebook Marketplace and the guy says it parked or it
00:20:52.660 ran when I parked it. But safe meant it didn't contain any toxic substances, like, for example,
00:21:02.320 schedule one toxins, mercury, lead, asbestos, or I guess single-use plastics, according to Justin
00:21:09.360 Trudeau. But that's what safe meant, not that it wouldn't harm you. To really drive home that there
00:21:14.420 was that marketing scheme at play here with the safe and effective. And again, if people had have been
00:21:19.460 given informed consent that, hey, these are still in clinical trials, they'll wrap up in a few months,
00:21:25.340 and then we'll have the data sometime thereafter. So we'll keep you posted. If anybody, you know,
00:21:29.620 is terrified and thinks this will help them to get back and reintegrate into society, by all means,
00:21:35.100 go for it. But to mandate something like this on the population, and especially for that demographic
00:21:40.740 that wasn't ever, and we knew that very early on, wasn't ever at risk of severe outcomes,
00:21:45.840 was asinine, in my opinion. And the thing to note about the safe and effective slogan also is that's
00:21:53.480 based on, or typically should be based on, a risk-benefit calculation. That is something else
00:22:00.220 that we have been investigating since the spring of 2021. I've reached out repeatedly to Health Canada.
00:22:06.000 What was that risk-benefit calculation used to justify the rollout of this injection? And specifically,
00:22:14.780 at the time, I was asking for youth, so those aged 17 and under. And that access to information
00:22:21.060 request that I subsequently had to file because they wouldn't respond to my media requests on it,
00:22:25.800 has been filibustered since that time. So we're going on almost three years where they can't
00:22:31.540 send me just the basic calculation, the risk of X per population, compared to the benefit of X per
00:22:39.640 population, and what that remaining calculation is. They cannot attest to that. They haven't sent that
00:22:46.320 to me. And I've repeatedly asked, and I've followed up, and I've appealed, and tried to put the pressure
00:22:52.900 on for that access to information request. Still don't have it. So for Health Canada and Federal
00:22:58.940 Minister of Health, Mark Holland, to continue to peddle this safe and efficacious narrative without
00:23:04.820 having conducted that calculation, and if they have, it's apparently top secret and mysterious.
00:23:11.740 That, I think, in and of itself speaks for itself.
00:23:16.500 Yeah. And, you know, I just want to make it clear. I don't begrudge anybody who took that vaccine. I
00:23:21.420 have friends, family who took the vaccine for a multitude of different reasons. Some of them
00:23:25.360 believe the TV doctors because, you know, normally the guy in a white coat, you're supposed to believe
00:23:32.180 them. I think equal parts of people took the vaccine, not because they wanted the vaccine,
00:23:40.100 but because they took it as a vaccination against unemployment. They did what the federal government
00:23:46.020 didn't do and weighed the risk benefit. And for them, the risk, the benefit of being able to feed
00:23:54.360 their family and pay their mortgage, outweighed whatever risk that they felt, I ultimately was
00:24:00.900 there. And I cannot begrudge those people, those choices. They don't have the benefit of working
00:24:06.080 for an employer like ours, who doesn't coerce us into doing anything that we don't want to do or
00:24:12.520 don't believe in. But I think one of the first things that the future conservative government should
00:24:22.360 do, just looking at the polls, it's going to be just an absolute bloodbath for the liberals.
00:24:27.800 But I think a future conservative government should do what the conservatives did when
00:24:35.720 Jean Chrétien left office. And that is a full scale, whole of government inquiry into what exactly
00:24:48.060 went down here, who benefited, who lied. And that is the only way, I think, that as a society,
00:24:55.820 we can heal from this absolute violation we've experienced, whether people feel that way or not.
00:25:03.980 It is true that we experience at the hands of the people whose really only job as a federal government
00:25:10.460 is to keep its people safe.
00:25:13.580 Yeah. And I mean, also, the National Citizens' Inquiry has really done the breadth of that work
00:25:22.140 already. And I think also looking into why previously well-established pandemic preparedness
00:25:31.260 plans, because we had those. We had documents to source back to. We had actual evidence-based responses
00:25:40.140 that were completely disregarded for this major hysterical reactions that largely came down from
00:25:48.460 the World Health Organization. Lockdowns and mandates were never part of our previously well-established,
00:25:55.980 as I mentioned, pandemic preparedness plans. You can talk to previous medical officers of health in
00:26:02.780 various jurisdictions, provinces and territories. And Colonel Redmond in Alberta, the guy who wrote
00:26:08.140 our pandemic response, he said, basically, at the National Citizens' Inquiry, these are the established
00:26:16.380 protocols. I wrote the plan for Alberta, and ultimately it was thrown in the garbage, and we still don't know why.
00:26:23.260 Exactly. And so I think that really needs to be investigated and how we ensure that those
00:26:28.700 preparedness plans that are based on evidence are upheld. You know, they keep telling us that
00:26:34.220 it's not a matter of if, but a matter of when the next pandemic. And so when, if there is another pandemic,
00:26:40.940 we need to make sure that those well-established evidence-based responses and protocols are upheld.
00:26:46.940 The pillars to informed consent and these sorts of things around therapeutics are upheld.
00:26:52.540 And another thing that when you mentioned about people who had to take the injection to keep
00:26:57.580 their jobs, my family, my husband was up against that kind of financial devastation or get this
00:27:05.020 novel injection where all of the other, the guys on site in his construction industry were already having
00:27:12.380 heart symptoms, other, you know, various illnesses as a result. But this, this program was theoretically
00:27:19.660 put in place for those people who had to take an injection to keep their jobs, but then were unable to
00:27:27.580 work because of the adverse events they were experiencing from taking a job mandated injection.
00:27:34.940 And so the really sad part about that is so many people took the injection to keep their job,
00:27:41.660 then they were maimed and unable to work their job. And they're supposed to have this safety net in
00:27:46.860 place of the VISP program. But because it's so arbitrary and, and, and stringently defined,
00:27:53.900 they're left to their own devices. And so many people in that situation ended up being out of work anyway,
00:28:00.220 and they're not compensated through this taxpayer funded program.
00:28:05.100 And all the while consultants are getting rich. And this is the theme of Justin Trudeau's government.
00:28:12.460 We're seeing it right now in arrive can or arrive scam, as my MP calls it. We're seeing it here.
00:28:18.860 If you are a federal government contractor, a consultant, the world is your oyster and the
00:28:26.700 little guys just trying to pay their bills, get by and do the right thing for their family.
00:28:31.100 You're tossed in the garbage, um, and treated like, well, like some sort of crypto Nazi if you're just
00:28:37.660 skeptical, rightly so, of the men in the white lab coats, either at your doctor's office or at the
00:28:45.260 World Health Organization.
00:28:46.460 And again, big pharma gets to laugh all the way to the bank.
00:28:51.980 Yeah. Yep. A lot of, uh, people are rich on the backs of some very injured blue-collar workers
00:28:58.540 in this country. And it is an absolute disgrace. And, uh, I'm, I'm proud of the work that the
00:29:04.300 National Citizens Inquiry did. Uh, but there are a lot of people in government who should be subpoenaed
00:29:11.820 to testify to their roles in all of this. Um, they should, they should not get away scot-free.
00:29:19.020 There are many of them who know exactly what they did and they know what was wrong
00:29:23.100 and they're hoping we all forget. And I won't until they're held accountable.
00:29:27.980 Yeah, absolutely. Completely agree. And the, despite their best efforts,
00:29:31.420 the NCI didn't have the legal ability to compel various medical officers of health and others
00:29:37.260 who were responsible for these knee-jerk reactions and these, these policy frameworks
00:29:42.940 to come and testify and, and back up what they did and why. And absolutely, there needs to be
00:29:49.020 something more formal put in place to make sure that we get those answers and make sure that this
00:29:53.500 never happens again. Yeah, that's the thing. If we don't hold these two, these people to account,
00:29:58.700 they're just going to do it again. They're just going to grab this power and use it against the
00:30:02.460 citizens of Canada again. Tamara, what are you working on next on this?
00:30:06.220 Well, I'm keeping my ear to the ground to get some personal stories of people who have navigated
00:30:13.340 the VIS program. I mean, we've heard from a few, but I know there are dozens, thousands, if not millions,
00:30:21.340 facing the same. And so I'm just keeping my ear to the ground on who has a really compelling story
00:30:29.740 about either being disregarded by this program, not being sufficient. Now, the mainstream media
00:30:35.180 has picked up a little bit. There was, I believe it was CTV in British Columbia, ran a story of two
00:30:41.260 men who were compensated through this program, but it will never adequately replace the employment loss
00:30:49.100 that they've suffered as a result of, again, debilitating and lasting injury. And so, and so keeping my
00:30:55.900 my ear to the ground off that, but also whether or not this program will actually wrap up in 2026.
00:31:02.460 You know, these obviously, again, are debilitating, light, long-lasting injuries. And so what,
00:31:08.860 in 2026, all of a sudden the well dries up and sorry, you're left to your own devices. And maybe
00:31:14.060 that's where some of the reporting that you're currently working on with MAID comes in. And that
00:31:19.580 is just so ghoulish to think that that is a possible outlet for these people that, you know,
00:31:25.900 in some instances have nothing left.
00:31:28.860 Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. Whatever brings people to desperation and death's door,
00:31:36.140 most of what we're hearing is related to government ineptitude, quite frankly, and a health system
00:31:42.460 that is broken, but that unions won't allow innovation within to fix and make it better for
00:31:49.260 the people who actually want to use it. Everybody brags about Canada's world-class
00:31:55.420 free healthcare system. Yeah, it's great until you try to use it. And those are the stories that
00:32:00.700 we're hearing over and over again. Tamara, thanks so much for your work on this topic. As I said,
00:32:06.380 you are Canada's leading medical journalist in this country because you really see this through the
00:32:15.740 eyes of a normal person. You do not work for the government. You're not paid by the government.
00:32:20.140 And you're really trying to tell the stories of the normal people who are harmed by the government.
00:32:24.380 And I think that is a valuable thing. And it's why people really appreciate and admire the work that
00:32:31.260 you do. Well, thanks, Sheila. I say it repeatedly, but it is truly an honor to be in a position to do
00:32:37.100 this work and bring people this kind of information that otherwise you unfortunately don't hear really
00:32:43.100 anywhere else and is seemingly ignored by our mainstream media. This is the portion of the show wherein we
00:32:58.780 invite your viewer feedback. I say it every week and I know it's redundant, but we're getting new people
00:33:03.180 here all the time. So we've got to tell them the rules. Unlike the mainstream media, we actually care
00:33:07.340 about what you think about the work that we do here at Rebel News. In fact, I think by and large,
00:33:11.660 you might actually even like us. So why wouldn't I open up my emails for some compliments or some hate
00:33:18.540 mail, depending on how you're feeling about what I said that day. So I give you my email address
00:33:23.580 right now. It's Sheila at RebelNews.com. Put gun show letters in the subject line. So I know it's
00:33:30.140 about something I said or did relating to the gun show. But if you're watching us on the free version
00:33:37.580 of the show on YouTube or Rumble, thank you for sitting through those ads, by the way. But don't
00:33:43.340 hesitate to leave a question, query, comment, story, idea, anything like that in the comment section over
00:33:49.500 there. I do read those and I do go looking for your clever commentary on our work. Now today's
00:33:57.500 gun show letter doesn't actually come to me about the gun show. So there's that too. If you put gun
00:34:05.180 show letters in the subject line of your email, I just might read it regardless of whether or not it's
00:34:11.580 even remotely related to the work that we do here at Rebel News. But this one I got was kind of
00:34:16.140 interesting and kind of related to the hyperbolic panic attack that we saw from Liberal Party MPs
00:34:29.900 last week when Tucker Carlson came to Canada and our Premier Daniel Smith had the audacity to talk to him.
00:34:38.860 I was in Edmonton. I think this comment relates to what was said in Calgary. But I should tell you,
00:34:47.820 in Edmonton, it was like 10,000 plus people in Rogers Place, which is where the Oilers play.
00:34:57.180 And it was like a rock show. Like people were on their feet screaming for Tucker Carlson,
00:35:04.220 screaming for Jordan Peterson. And I got to tell you, screaming at the top of their lungs, freaking
00:35:09.580 out excited when our Premier Daniel Smith walked out. And that is something that I think in the
00:35:17.500 darkest recesses of the most liberal parts of this country, our Prime Minister could not do. She was
00:35:23.820 treated like an absolute rock star. Because she kind of is behaving that way, by and large, keeping
00:35:31.900 your word, fighting with the feds, striking back at these stupid plastics bans, asserting provincial
00:35:38.220 autonomy over areas of provincial authority, and caring enough about free speech to not be bullied
00:35:45.980 away from speaking to interesting thought leaders like Tucker Carlson. Like who should Daniel Smith
00:35:53.740 listen to the media, her political enemies in the federal liberal party, or the people who want to
00:36:04.620 hear her have these conversations. So she did. And anyways, the liberals, it was just an absolute cry fest.
00:36:15.420 After her conversation with Tucker, and that's what this email is about, comes to me from Terrence. He says,
00:36:23.100 Hi, Sheila. Just finished watching the panel discussion on YouTube with Jordan Peterson,
00:36:28.060 Conrad Black, Daniel Smith, and Tucker Carlson. That was in Calgary. Wherein Premier Smith asked
00:36:34.140 Tucker to put a target on Stephen Gilboa's back. Our federal environment minister. Contrast these four
00:36:43.100 ultra intelligent, articulate, and ideologically principled individuals with the four liberal cabinet
00:36:48.140 minister boobs. Send out in front of a mainstream media press conference to whine about their being victims
00:36:55.900 of violence advocated against politicians of every stripe. Yeah, that was really embarrassing. There is some
00:37:04.700 sort of crisis in masculinity in this country. If you hold a press conference as one of the power, most powerful
00:37:12.780 men in this country, by the way, like the environment minister, whether we like it or not, those policies
00:37:18.620 control a great deal of our lives. They attack our family's bottom line, the amount of money we have
00:37:25.580 in our pocket. And for these boobs, as you so rightly put it, Terrence, to wander out and blubber,
00:37:33.820 complain and whine that another man said mean things about them. What a disgrace. What's, you know what,
00:37:44.380 those guys should go get their testosterone level checked. Like, how embarrassing. And the media ate it
00:37:51.500 up. It's like the people in the mainstream media have never ever encountered like a random normal man
00:37:58.780 who would just say, yeah, some dude said mean things about me. I don't care. These guys went
00:38:03.580 and complained that it was political violence, that somebody didn't agree with their madness wholeheartedly.
00:38:12.220 How embarrassing. Normal men would be totally embarrassed of that. But Stephen Gilboa, not a
00:38:18.220 normal dude. Neither Pablo Rodriguez, the heritage minister. I think he was doing some of the
00:38:24.140 boo-hoo-hoo in that same press conference. By the way, does anybody else think that he looks like a
00:38:31.660 failed CBC children's folk singer? Pablo Rodriguez. In another life, I imagine that's what he would do.
00:38:39.660 Anyway, let's get back to Terrence's letter. My interpretation of placing a target on someone's
00:38:44.700 back is to single them out for ridicule. No violence intended. They managed to bring this ridicule on
00:38:51.260 themselves just by their childish responses. These liberals are so pathetic. P.S. Love Rebel News.
00:38:58.540 I'm a subscriber and you are my favorite reporter. Well, thank you so much. I appreciate your kind
00:39:06.940 words, but yeah, just totally embarrassing. I just, I don't know what else to do except laugh at these
00:39:14.780 absolute pathetic weeps of what passes for a man over there in the Liberal Party of Canada.
00:39:23.340 If you work in government and you are taking a paycheck on behalf of the taxpayer and you are
00:39:32.620 responsible for policies that people don't like, I'm sorry, stick your feelings in a sack and throw them
00:39:40.060 in the river. Toughen up, be a man, and take your criticism with dignity. Whining to the mainstream
00:39:49.980 media about how another man hurts your feelings. Not just whining, holding a press conference to whine
00:39:57.020 about how another man made fun of you in front of 10,000 plus people. I mean, just come on.
00:40:05.340 You know what? Parents, raise your sons better. Raise them tougher. That was bad. They, you know what,
00:40:14.220 I'm not for medicating the water, but maybe we should be putting some testosterone in the drink
00:40:21.180 box water bottle sort of things, if you know what I mean. Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.
00:40:26.140 Thank you so much as always for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here in the same time,
00:40:30.700 in the same place next week. And as always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.