Tamara Ugolini joins me on the show to talk about some of the work she's been doing to dig the truth out of the fiction and the conspiracy theories that you may see online about COVID and vaccines and vaccine injury.
00:17:26.460And so they're left with the very thing they were fearful of before, which was being out of money and a way to feed their families or pay for their homes or their cars or whatever.
00:17:37.640And so they got the jab to keep their job, to keep, to stay afloat.
00:17:54.420She got a call from, I guess she has a case manager as of yesterday or today.
00:17:58.220And they're going to give her a call back in four weeks.
00:18:02.800And she's like, in the meantime, I'm in a wheelchair and my husband has to take all this time off to take care of me and take me to my appointments.
00:18:10.140And, you know, just the rigmarole involved with all of this is just such a failure, especially when you, yeah, you coerce people and threaten them with societal contracts to be, to be part of society and take place in their job and their school.
00:18:25.420And now when they did their part and they were injured, they just, you know, oh, well, we'll just push them to the wayside and we'll pretend like we're going to give them all this money.
00:18:35.260But by the time any of it comes to fruition, maybe they'll be long gone.
00:19:03.940A healthy woman my age, so like youngish, a little boy at home, business to run, completely devastated her health and her life and her business.
00:19:15.280She's, you know, she's recovering, thank God, but it's a long road.
00:19:19.020She's on nitroglycerin tablets like she's an 80-year-old man with a heart condition.
00:19:23.960And at the end of the day, because she could only take one dose of the vaccine, the second dose, her doctor told her, don't take it.
00:19:35.140So she was coerced into taking this vaccine to see her mom.
00:19:40.080And at the end of the day, because she can never be fully vaccinated against COVID-19, she can't get on that plane to go see her mom or get on the ferry or take a train.
00:19:53.060And, you know, her story is not all that unusual.
00:19:57.600You and I hear vaccine injury stories all day long.
00:20:01.080The idea that just 400 people have been accepted to this program, I think between you and me, we've easily heard from 400 people with vaccine injuries.
00:20:10.240And the vaccine injuries, they're not always catastrophic like, you know, Diana's and Natalie's.
00:20:17.540They are sometimes just this persistent brain fog that make functioning in your everyday life impossible and makes navigating this vaccine injury reporting system nearly impossible, too.
00:20:33.880You know, it's like the government is getting the benefit of the injury that they force you to get.
00:20:42.860And I mean, just today, I think I finally caught up on the emails that I've received in the last week and a half, just specifically to vaccine injury.
00:20:51.660I had to start directing everything to its own specific folder because the emails that were coming in was just crazy when I put that call out.
00:20:59.680Yeah, I think it was the second week of March.
00:21:02.200And I just today got caught up on all of them.
00:21:06.220And there does seem to be some patterns.
00:21:07.800Like, I mean, I'm not a doctor or a medical professional, but I can, in talking to people, I see that there are some patterns developing.
00:21:14.200But you're right, the brain fog associated with this.
00:21:17.240And I think the very first person I interviewed with an actual vaccine injury, who at the time wasn't documented, was Kevin Street.
00:21:23.880And he couldn't, there was no way he could keep up with the follow through and the advocacy that was needed for him to get any sort of help or assistance with his injury.
00:21:36.080And then his wife had to go back to work because he was out of work.
00:21:38.660And so he no longer had his advocate either.
00:21:41.280And it's just heartbreaking to hear from these people.
00:21:43.780And once again, you know, the government saying, oh, look, we did something.
00:21:48.060But what is it, a fourth, a third of that's going to go to this law firm?
00:21:54.520Why aren't we giving a larger portion of that to the people injured?
00:21:58.380And maybe it's wrong to say or to make note of this.
00:22:02.540But I remember at the beginning, two people were like, well, if the unvaccinated come to the hospital with COVID, we should deny them medical care and cut off their assistance at the hospital and to medicine and to doctors.
00:22:15.600And what if there was people who were that aggressive and that mean on the other side who said, well, these people, they trusted that science and they did, they took the shot.
00:22:24.400So they don't deserve any sort of assistance or help now.
00:22:27.040I mean, just seeing how absolutely gross the thought process is on both sides of that spectrum.
00:22:33.760It's just what devastating societal effects has the government done to people?
00:22:40.140It's just so un-Canadian and disgusting.
00:22:43.780Well, and by not recognizing what it is that caused these medical problems in these people, we're denying them the appropriate treatment.
00:22:52.640When we're sort of skirting around the issue that this COVID vaccine caused this problem in them, we're also denying them the treatment that they need.
00:23:00.560And I'm told that health care in this country is universal, regardless of your race, creed, religion.
00:23:09.920You should have access to the medical system.
00:23:12.660But that's not the case because we're denying a certain subset of people access to the medical treatment they need so that they feel better.
00:23:21.440Because we can't count them as a vaccine injury statistic because it goes against the narrative.
00:23:27.920And on that note, too, I think that there's there's a big divide as well in the medical establishment that they genuinely don't know what to do with them.
00:23:38.160How do we deal with with these people coming to us with these reactions?
00:23:41.940And there there is, like I said, that pattern.
00:23:43.700But they're also very highly individualized.
00:23:47.200And sometimes I wonder if they the doctors and nurses and the establishment even know what they're doing to address this.
00:23:54.440And if they have proper treatment options for people suffering.
00:23:58.460Now, speaking of people suffering, I truly believe that there is also a subset of people in society who are so caught up in the fear of all of this.
00:24:10.940They can't just unwind and see through it.
00:24:13.220And I think that's largely been caused by TV doctors and biostatisticians, which I'm not even sure is a real job.
00:24:22.520And the reason I bring this up is because there's one in your home province of Ontario, Ryan Imgrind.
00:24:31.440He's sort of been the guy who's like the next wave is coming.
00:24:37.880Make sure the kids are all suffering by having to wear a mask seven hours a day at school and all their sports are canceled.
00:24:44.040And they're sitting on the couch and watching Netflix because that's the only safe and healthy thing to do.
00:24:48.920So he's been like a locker downer and he's used his his role as a statistician or his consulting as a statistician to sort of enforce bad government policy.
00:25:02.520He describes himself as a consultant, which means he gets paid to give the government reasons to do things.
00:25:08.700And he's a private sector science advisory board member and also, as it would turn out, a high school teacher.
00:25:16.680And the reason we're talking about him is the other day he did not want a maskless school assembly to happen on Friday.
00:25:50.900Because Randy Hilliard spent a day in jail for, I guess, probably telling people to hold the line.
00:25:58.060Likewise with Pastor Art Poloski, 51 days in jail for giving a sermon to truckers at the border.
00:26:04.860Peaceful protesters were treated like terrorists for not even going anywhere near this sort of thing.
00:26:12.180And this guy is going to get government contracts out the wazoo and he's a public sector employee because he's a high school teacher.
00:26:20.100There are no consequences for this madness.
00:26:22.940And that's the crazy thing is that he's a high school teacher and the lack of consequences on that side, the hysteria generators, the ones who are just crippled.
00:26:33.500I think crippled with hypochondria is a word that I have used before.
00:26:37.560I don't know if they will ever come back from this.
00:26:45.140That is a conspiracy rabbit hole, in my opinion.
00:26:48.660They're so far down this COVID religion that I don't know if they can ever come back from something like this.
00:26:56.560And the fact that he's a high school teacher and who knows if he'll even get so much as a slap on the wrist for making such an outlandish tweet where you have doctors saying, oh, do we really think that the COVID injectables are safe and effective?
00:27:11.340And then they get investigated by the CPSO.
00:27:13.740And yeah, they're like rooted in conspiracy and Russian troll farms and they get their licenses removed and reprimanded by their college and ousted by their colleagues.
00:27:27.120And someone like this can make an actual property destruction question, like posed as a question, thinly veiled and just continues on with his life scot-free.
00:27:38.420Um, that just shows this, the, the two tiered kind of citizenry that's been created here where these people on this pedestal can say what they want at any time without having fear of reprisal.
00:27:52.820And then if you question the narrative, it's like, oh, you're a crazy conspiracy theorist who gets their information from Russian trolls.
00:28:00.500Yeah. I mean, this guy, he's going to, uh, be treated as though, look how much he cares about these kids so deeply about their health that he would question, float the thought bubble that he maybe should burn down their school.
00:28:19.140I mean, as an, I can't even imagine what the parents are feeling if this guy teaches at your kid's school.
00:28:23.640Yeah, I think he's a high school teacher, but yes, absolutely. And the thing is, it's been two years. Like, when do you say enough is enough? The masks haven't done anything. I thought the vaccines were the way out and going to save us all.
00:28:39.060And now we have more deaths than, and injuries than we did before we had vaccines. So at what point do you say, okay, where's my rational thought? Where's reality? And have a real look at through, take off those rose colored glasses and say, you know what? This doesn't make sense anymore. It's been two years.
00:29:00.240How much longer can I keep pushing this hysteria before I look like an absolute clown?
00:29:08.120I think it goes back to, they just don't want to publicly admit that they were wrong. That's a very difficult thing for narcissistic people to do. Um, they can't say, well, new information came in and I learned something a little bit different. Um, there, I, I think that's part of it. I think there's some, um, financial incentive to keep this stuff going.
00:29:29.020If you're a consultant that, uh, pushes statistics to enforce government lockdowns and you're getting contracts for that, of course, you're going to continue on with the fear mongering.
00:29:38.900But I also agree with you that a lot of this is a bit of a religion. Their religion is fear. They've replaced fear of God with fear of a disease.
00:29:47.960And there are rituals, ritual, ritual hand-washing and mask wearing and chants and TikTok dances. Um, look, I'm Catholic.
00:29:58.020Yeah, I'm Catholic. So we do the calisthenic thing at church too, where it's like, stand up, sit down, kneel, get up, do this with your hands.
00:30:04.420So it's for me, when I look at this stuff, I'm like, ah, it's very similar to a religion, um, their behavior and they are true believers.
00:30:13.360And like when he, if like with every cult at the end, when the mass catastrophe, sometimes, you know, like when you hear about the mass suicides of a cult, those people are the truest believers.
00:30:27.280Everybody else got off along the way. When the first comet didn't strike the earth and you didn't get taken to heaven in a spaceship, you leave.
00:30:36.400And then the ones at the end are the truest, most radical believers. And I think that's what we're seeing here.
00:30:42.400The people who are the truest believers in the COVID scare, those are the ones that are left.
00:30:47.580And they are radical. The kind that I guess, threatened to burn down schools.
00:30:52.420And walk away from it without even a slap on the wrist.
00:30:55.940Yeah. Yeah. That's, uh, that is exactly it. Uh, you look at how this guy's going to get treated versus how, uh, honkers get treated.
00:31:06.940Uh, he's not even going to get an $81 honking ticket, if you know what I mean.
00:31:10.820Tamara, I know you're very busy today. Uh, thanks for jumping on the call with me.
00:31:15.720Yeah. Um, what are you working on next?
00:31:18.020Oh gosh. Okay. So I have, uh, I have some stories coming out hopefully later this week, maybe over the weekend, early next week, uh, regarding the World Health Organization's pandemic treaty, or they've changed the word now to like a contract, um, the wording.
00:31:35.780And so that's, that's slated for, I believe 2024. And so there's a group, the World Council for Health has formed, and they are calling out to their various countries.
00:31:47.960And specifically my interview will be with a Canadian doctor, um, who's going to discuss the health implications of, uh, a treaty such as this for Canadians and some of the more sovereign nations.
00:32:00.460Um, and then I'm continuing to follow the vaccine reaction reporting. And one of my next reports will be to discuss, uh, adverse events reporting system that was developed by just average everyday Canadians who saw the failures of our formal federal system.
00:32:19.880Um, so we're going to discuss that and how they are vetting and vouching for these reactions and also putting them in touch with professionals who can hopefully assist and at least make these reactions a little bit more manageable for people.
00:32:35.840Yeah, I bet they're doing it without involving a $21 million consulting firm too. So, you know, whatever the government does, the private sector can do much better.
00:32:45.020Tamara, Tamara, thank you for all your hard work on these COVID cases and your advocacy for the people who are not only forgotten by the system, but so often abused and let down by the system. I know, um, Canadians appreciate your hard work on this stuff.
00:33:01.540Well, thanks, Sheila. Yeah. And I love doing this work. So thank you everyone for your support. And of course, uh, to the rebel platform for allowing me to, to go with, with the stories that I see of importance. So thank you.
00:33:15.020Well, everybody, I think I'm going to try something new on the show here. Keep things a little bit exciting. Maybe do something that Ezra does and that David Menzies does. And that is read some of your letters and comments on some of the work that I do in particular, the show from last week.
00:33:39.100And these are hand selected by my producer, Efron. I haven't read them yet. I have not reacted to them yet. So let's do this organically together. If you will be, I suppose, my crash test dummies on this new sort of segment of the show. Let's take a look.
00:33:55.600V.I. Gab sends us a comment saying, I gave up on the CBC and other mainstream news sources. They lost all credibility during the trucker protests. Boy, did they ever.
00:34:07.500I think CBC had to retract two separate stories relating to the convoy, one of which they accused the convoy of being Russian backed, but the supply of Russian spies and foreign meddlers never quite seems to meet the demand over at CBC.
00:34:25.260The Toronto Star, they had a story wherein they alleged that guns were found in the convoy. Testimony at a House of Commons committee indicated that wasn't true.
00:34:38.340And another mainstream media source, it might even have been the CBC, they tried to fact check an American outlet when the American outlet said that the police had guns drawn on protesters.
00:34:49.020They tried to say that that wasn't true when there was video all around the world that came out of the convoy where police had their guns drawn extracting protesters from their trucks and their RVs.
00:35:03.000So, yeah, they did lose all credibility. Unfortunately, they didn't lose all their funding from Justin Trudeau.
00:35:10.220So, I guess that's the bad side is that there will never be a market correction for just how horrible they are because even if the people stop watching, Justin Trudeau keeps giving them more and more and more of your money.
00:36:02.560And I think it has something to do with the industry itself and Hollywood and how it has been sort of the entertainment arm of the Democrat Party.
00:36:13.940Musicians used to be, you know, part of the counterculture.
00:36:17.580It's an industry that is based entirely in free speech and free thought and free expression.
00:36:31.440And yet, so often we see musicians becoming the enforcers of ideological homogeneity, that everybody has to think the same on every single topic and talk the same.
00:36:43.980And they've really been sort of the pop culture police force of the Democrat and progressive movement.
00:36:54.340They're not the counterculture anymore.
00:36:56.180I think a great example of this is Rage Against the Machine.
00:37:00.680Far leftists in complete ideological line with the mainstream.
00:37:07.500Now, I sort of listen to country music and not even new country music, old country music.
00:37:12.180So I'm not the best judge of this stuff.
00:37:14.460As I said, I've checked out of the culture a very long time ago.
00:37:19.040But there's a reason I like older country music.
00:37:24.600And I think those people are still not afraid to be conservative and express different views and sort of be pro-gun and pro-God.
00:37:33.380And I know there are probably some of those people within mainstream pop culture.
00:37:39.180But if you speak out, you get canceled, you don't get invited to the fancy parties, and you don't get that next record deal.
00:37:46.300So there's a lot of financial disincentive to sort of keep your politics to yourself, unless your politics conform with, I guess, Hillary Clinton.
00:37:59.340Anyways, she's the real voice of the youth, isn't she?
00:38:04.220Joyce S. says, thank you for this interview, again, with Brad from Five Times August, and for keeping this whole movement up front and center where it belongs.
00:38:33.720But it also exposed the fragility and the sensitivity and the cowardice of Justin Trudeau.
00:38:40.480He first ran away when the trucker's convoy came, and then they hurt his feelings.
00:38:44.540So then he overreacted and treated them like terrorists with the invocation of the Emergencies Act.
00:38:50.700We can also see how quickly the banks went along with all of this.
00:38:54.980All the systems failed that were meant to protect the public during a time of the pandemic.
00:39:02.180That's when your charter rights are the most important.
00:39:04.760And I think that's why the truckers actually went to Ottawa in the first place.
00:39:08.340They saw all the systems failing them.
00:39:10.060The courts, their politicians, their doctors, judges, everybody who is supposed to step up and be factual and not political during the pandemic didn't happen.
00:39:24.180The business community, likewise, another complete and total failure, just reaching for handouts instead of standing up for small businesses.
00:39:32.580The truckers saw all those institutions fail.
00:39:35.800And so they had to take matters into their own hands.
00:39:38.500So the trucker's convoy not only exposed Justin Trudeau and the media, but they also revealed the power of the people once the people stand up.
00:39:48.900And as Ezra said, just by the convoy going to Ottawa, they succeeded because now the vaccine passport is gone in so many provinces.