Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ What happens when our banks become infested with climate hysteria？

00:00:00.100 We've got a bit of a climate change roundup this week with our friend Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science,

00:00:04.500 and then we're discussing her side project, wherein she examines the narrative around Indian residential schools here in Canada.

00:00:13.420 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:30.000 You know, since COVID has receded, we've gone back to the same old emergency, catastrophe.

00:00:40.940 The old thing that they used to use to control your life and where you went and what you could eat and the kind of car you could drive,

00:00:50.200 how far you can get away from your house, that sounds a lot like COVID, doesn't it?

00:00:53.580 And that's climate change.

00:00:54.480 The politicians who were hell-bent on controlling all the comings and goings and your interactions during COVID,

00:01:02.600 well, COVID's gone, and so they have to go back to the old one, climate change.

00:01:08.800 And there are a few different ways that they are using climate change to control your life,

00:01:13.660 and one of those ways is infesting the banking industry with climate hysteria,

00:01:19.100 which will lead, of course, to carbon social credits.

00:01:24.480 And if you think that's just a conspiracy theory, they're already doing this sort of thing to major energy projects.

00:01:30.840 If it doesn't meet climate targets, well, maybe the bank won't finance it.

00:01:35.040 Maybe the insurance companies won't insure it.

00:01:37.620 So it's a bureaucratic prohibition on an already approved project.

00:01:42.080 Neat little thing that they're doing.

00:01:43.260 And then after we discuss that with my friend Michelle Sterling and a whole host of other issues,

00:01:51.800 we're moving into something else that she has been acutely focused on,

00:01:56.060 and that is the facts around Indian residential schools here in Canada.

00:02:02.120 And she's not just a layperson on this issue.

00:02:04.640 She is someone who worked in Alberta history, in particular, for a very, very long time.

00:02:11.800 And so she's got a lot more expertise than the people accusing skeptics of genocide denial

00:02:23.820 on the issue of Indian residential schools.

00:02:26.500 It's a long show today, so I'll just be quiet.

00:02:28.560 Let's go directly into the interview.

00:02:37.800 So joining me now is my friend and good friend of the show, Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science.

00:02:42.500 And there's so much to talk about on the climate front, because now that COVID has receded,

00:02:47.060 we've gone back to the old emergency that's going to kill us all, and that's climate change.

00:02:51.980 Michelle, thanks so much for coming on the show.

00:02:54.420 Now, I wanted to talk to you, before we get into some other things, about you had sort of made a list of things that you wanted to talk about,

00:03:06.160 but there were some things that I wanted to talk about, too.

00:03:08.700 But I noticed this week, and the reason I sort of mentioned COVID is because there is a woman now suing CBC

00:03:17.360 and several levels of government and officers of government because of the propaganda that she fell victim to with COVID.

00:03:27.460 And she ended up with Bell's palsy and severe vaccine injury.

00:03:33.620 But and so there are attempts to hold CBC and the government responsible for their bad, flawed messaging there,

00:03:40.760 or at least their messaging that wasn't entirely honest.

00:03:45.020 And I see that you've done a little bit of deconstructing CBC's, what would we call misinformation,

00:03:54.880 on another front, and that's climate change.

00:03:57.660 So and I watched this as you did it.

00:04:00.280 It was a live show, Deconstructing CBC's Propaganda.

00:04:03.060 Mm-hmm.

00:04:05.040 Yes.

00:04:06.380 Yeah, the Deconstructing CBC's Propaganda, this was about the Fault Lines Report,

00:04:14.040 which also contained a lot of COVID material as well.

00:04:17.760 And basically, the Fault Lines Report was set up by the Canadian Council of Academics

00:04:23.060 or something to that effect, or Canadian Council of Academies.

00:04:27.500 Anyway, a multimillion-dollar organization, basically government-funded.

00:04:31.500 And, you know, we were the only group picked out by name in it.

00:04:36.960 But, you know, when you go through the CBC report,

00:04:40.340 you see that they're trying a new method of indoctrination and propaganda,

00:04:44.800 which is, you know, telling a story narrative.

00:04:48.860 So in a way, I feel bad for Jayla Bernstein,

00:04:52.200 because, you know, the live stream that we did really takes her to task,

00:04:58.620 because she was not reporting on the story.

00:05:02.940 Instead, she was creating this kind of narrative, storyline narrative,

00:05:07.540 to draw people in.

00:05:09.740 And then they put Stephen Lewandowski on screen,

00:05:12.820 and he's a professor of cognitive behavioral psychology.

00:05:18.120 He's the guy who wrote the very famous paper called

00:05:20.760 NASA Fake the Moon Landing, which then he tried to apply to all dissenting climate scientists

00:05:28.720 that they're all conspiracy theorists.

00:05:31.360 So this may be starting to sound a bit familiar to everyone.

00:05:34.600 Anyway, he said almost nothing, but in his interview,

00:05:39.540 and really the Fault Lines Report that Jayla did was not reporting at all.

00:05:46.040 So within that live stream, I did sort of like,

00:05:49.940 what if she had been reporting on actual things in the report?

00:05:55.720 So, you know, have a look at it and see what you think.

00:05:58.520 But yeah, CBC is, you know, not informing the public.

00:06:03.780 They're actively misinforming the public on so many things.

00:06:06.740 Now, one of the things that I think should have been all over mainstream media,

00:06:15.600 it happened in May, and I didn't see it anywhere except on the Friends of Science YouTube channel.

00:06:21.660 And that was that wind power in Alberta went to near zero.

00:06:28.760 And this was chilling to me because of the federal push for net zero policies.

00:06:36.000 They don't want even fossil fuel backup when it comes to green energy on the grid.

00:06:42.300 And I didn't see this reported anywhere,

00:06:44.680 that there was a complete and total collapse of wind energy in Alberta in late May,

00:06:50.800 except at Friends of Science.

00:06:52.840 Tell us what that would have meant for us.

00:06:54.340 First of all, tell us what happened and what that would have meant for us

00:06:57.560 if there were no such thing as fossil fuel backup for a grid.

00:07:01.620 Well, it's actually, there was one media report, and that was Brian Zinchuk of Pipeline Online.

00:07:09.080 So he did the first report of it, and then I picked it up and basically read his report as a video message

00:07:16.340 because, you know, it reaches more people and some people don't read.

00:07:19.360 Anyhow, yeah, wind collapsed, and for many hours, I don't have the stats off the top of my head,

00:07:28.600 but what it would mean for us is if we didn't have the natural gas backup,

00:07:34.220 which we do have, and we're building a couple of thousand megawatt more gas generation,

00:07:39.180 and if we didn't have the existing coal, which we do have,

00:07:42.940 if we didn't have the import from Saskatchewan, Montana, and B.C., we would have been toast.

00:07:48.820 And the thing is with wind, wind and solar are typically regional phenomenon.

00:07:55.980 So if there's a drop in wind in Alberta, that would be the same in Saskatchewan.

00:08:00.520 And Saskatchewan is also under tremendous pressure to abandon coal and not use any natural gas

00:08:08.500 and to implement a whole bunch of wind.

00:08:10.680 And, of course, the theory of the clean grid, which the east-west grid,

00:08:15.480 which is a liberal platform, has been for a long time.

00:08:19.160 It's based on probably on the Danny Harvey paper out of University of Toronto,

00:08:25.700 where he proposed, and note, he's a geographer, he's not a power generation expert,

00:08:33.080 and you can tell when you read the paper, because he thinks that an east-west grid

00:08:37.960 hooking up to hydro in the provinces with lots of hydro and nuclear in Ontario,

00:08:45.140 and wind mostly, like 30% of the wind power, I think, was to come from Alberta,

00:08:49.380 that we would have a very cheap, inexpensive power source.

00:08:55.440 And you're hearing this being repeated by the Clean Energy Canada,

00:09:01.140 the Tides Offshoot, by the Climate Institute.

00:09:05.680 And their argument is like, oh, there's so many billions of dollars on the table

00:09:11.040 for the provinces to be subsidized for this, you should just jump in,

00:09:15.780 and then you'll have cheap power.

00:09:17.380 Well, all those billions of dollars of subsidies come from our pockets,

00:09:21.560 so we'll be paying for these subsidies, not to mention,

00:09:25.340 there's not enough power on the grid right now for the EV policy in Canada, period.

00:09:31.160 There isn't enough power.

00:09:33.060 So if you're going to be electrifying houses and trying to hook up an east-west grid,

00:09:38.200 I mean, look what happened in Quebec over the Christmas holidays, right?

00:09:42.180 They got flattened by a big storm,

00:09:44.080 and they have problems there now because they have electrified a lot of homes

00:09:49.200 and they just don't have the capacity anymore.

00:09:53.140 So how can we hope to draw from Quebec's big hydro to Alberta

00:09:57.680 when they don't have enough there?

00:09:59.660 And if the wind goes flat here, we'll all be in blackout.

00:10:03.360 You know, and blackout is not only dangerous for humans,

00:10:06.680 especially in the middle of winter,

00:10:08.000 but it's catastrophically expensive for industry.

00:10:11.880 You know, if you have some manufacturing process,

00:10:14.740 many manufacturing processes have to run 24-7.

00:10:18.180 They are not meant to be stopped.

00:10:20.420 So if you have to stop,

00:10:22.280 then you have millions of dollars of product that's kaput.

00:10:27.500 In hospitals, you know,

00:10:29.240 they do have backup power for probably three or four days maybe.

00:10:33.580 But I think a lot of people in Quebec were out for a week or two, right?

00:10:39.020 So it's deadly.

00:10:40.760 It's a very bad idea.

00:10:43.620 Phenomenally expensive.

00:10:44.760 We've got a number of reports like the true cost of wind and solar for Alberta,

00:10:49.140 clean electricity, delusion or reality.

00:10:52.240 We've got quite a few reports online

00:10:54.120 that help people understand why it's so expensive to do this

00:10:58.180 and why it's so ineffective.

00:10:59.740 So, I don't know, there's like a freight train mentality

00:11:04.860 at the top in government at the federal level

00:11:07.960 and they seem to be unable to understand

00:11:10.980 these very fundamental, important things.

00:11:16.220 Yeah, and you can watch this stuff happen in real time.

00:11:20.320 There's a Twitter account called Reliable Energy Alberta,

00:11:24.240 I think it's called.

00:11:25.680 Reliable AB.

00:11:26.420 Yeah, Reliable AB.

00:11:29.280 And it shows you in real time,

00:11:31.540 all it does, it's a bot

00:11:33.340 and all it does is tweet out

00:11:35.400 what's on the Alberta grid at that moment.

00:11:38.340 And you will see for yourself

00:11:40.620 what an absolute pipe dream green energy is,

00:11:44.920 especially, especially on a cold day.

00:11:47.520 Take a look at that on a cold day or a hot day.

00:11:50.640 And then look at what your life would be like

00:11:53.800 without that fossil fuel backup on the grid.

00:11:56.420 And it's not fossil fuel backup,

00:11:58.180 it's fossil fuels on the grid.

00:12:00.320 That's right.

00:12:01.280 Yeah, you can look at the Alberta Electric System

00:12:03.540 operator as well.

00:12:05.060 That's where the data comes from for Reliable AB.

00:12:08.160 And they have a new dashboard,

00:12:10.700 which is also quite demonstrative.

00:12:12.880 You can see the capacity,

00:12:15.800 you know, because that's the other thing

00:12:16.940 that people get confused about.

00:12:18.700 People say, oh, look,

00:12:19.540 we've got 5,500 something megawatts

00:12:22.680 capacity of wind power.

00:12:25.340 Well, we do.

00:12:26.260 Okay, fine.

00:12:27.580 But capacity is not actual generation.

00:12:31.440 When it's not generating,

00:12:32.760 we have nothing.

00:12:33.540 It doesn't matter what,

00:12:34.760 how many megawatts you've built

00:12:36.260 because you don't have any power.

00:12:39.440 So, you know,

00:12:41.320 and at one point last year,

00:12:43.820 there was an article in the Calgary Herald,

00:12:45.680 I think,

00:12:46.180 and they were quoting Blake Schaefer

00:12:47.720 of the University of Calgary.

00:12:49.580 And he was saying,

00:12:50.420 well, this is great.

00:12:51.480 You know,

00:12:51.660 for the first time in history in Alberta,

00:12:53.960 renewables outperformed coal.

00:12:56.700 Well, we have like one or two

00:12:58.680 measly little coal plants still running,

00:13:00.860 putting out like 820 megawatts of power.

00:13:04.080 And we've had like 5,000 something

00:13:06.740 megawatts of renewables.

00:13:10.060 So the coal was actually doing

00:13:12.440 just 1% less in all these renewables

00:13:16.640 over the course of the year.

00:13:18.340 That's not a victory.

00:13:20.060 That's a failure.

00:13:21.540 Big one.

00:13:25.160 Well, and of course,

00:13:27.800 of course, at one point,

00:13:29.620 coal is going to be surpassed

00:13:31.940 by green energy.

00:13:33.240 They banned the use of coal

00:13:35.640 for electricity.

00:13:37.620 So, you know,

00:13:38.580 they're phasing it out.

00:13:39.980 So, of course,

00:13:41.100 it's government mandated decline

00:13:43.480 of the coal industry.

00:13:45.320 We have 800 years

00:13:46.360 of pretty clean burning coal

00:13:47.780 under our feet,

00:13:48.700 which seems ridiculous

00:13:50.120 that we're stranding it.

00:13:51.700 But yeah,

00:13:52.080 if the government mandates

00:13:53.360 to phase out of coal,

00:13:54.320 at some point,

00:13:55.080 it will be phased out.

00:13:56.180 And I think, unfortunately,

00:13:57.960 for the rate payer,

00:13:59.580 we're getting there.

00:14:01.220 Before we move on to

00:14:02.560 one thing I want to talk to you about

00:14:05.240 that's very chilling,

00:14:06.120 and that is this climate colonization

00:14:08.960 of the banking industry,

00:14:10.480 both here but also around the world,

00:14:12.640 is an update to Justin Trudeau's

00:14:15.180 flagship tree planting program,

00:14:19.640 which is such a farce

00:14:22.120 because Canada,

00:14:23.580 I mean,

00:14:24.120 we're covered by the boreal forest.

00:14:26.500 It's the world's largest

00:14:28.380 continuous forest.

00:14:30.300 And Justin Trudeau's idea was,

00:14:32.420 you know what we need to do?

00:14:33.400 We need to get the government

00:14:34.720 to pay people to plant trees

00:14:36.260 even though industry

00:14:37.200 already does it for free.

00:14:39.000 So tell us what's going on

00:14:41.480 with the tree planting program

00:14:42.820 and why you think Justin Trudeau

00:14:44.900 announced it in the first place.

00:14:47.340 Well, you know,

00:14:48.220 it's a debacle really,

00:14:49.880 and I did a little short video

00:14:51.440 where I'm crawling around

00:14:52.420 in the grass

00:14:53.020 by my little tree

00:14:53.980 that I thought was going to die.

00:14:56.640 And why I'm in the grass there

00:14:58.420 is that most of the trees

00:14:59.580 that they show

00:15:00.500 on the Natural Resources Canada website

00:15:03.460 that they've planted

00:15:04.840 are being planted

00:15:06.260 in very grassy places.

00:15:08.420 And our forestry consultant

00:15:09.640 tells us that,

00:15:10.840 you know,

00:15:11.660 grass will outdistance

00:15:12.920 the tree 10 to 1,

00:15:14.140 like it'll basically

00:15:14.960 kill the tree.

00:15:16.300 And when you plant trees,

00:15:17.620 apparently about 30%

00:15:19.120 of them don't survive.

00:15:20.740 It's just,

00:15:21.580 you know,

00:15:21.880 Mother Nature,

00:15:22.580 it doesn't matter

00:15:23.020 how much you tend them,

00:15:24.320 blah, blah, blah.

00:15:25.160 But what's interesting

00:15:26.360 with the tree planting program,

00:15:28.720 they've posted

00:15:29.320 a whole bunch of images

00:15:30.520 of all these different projects

00:15:32.400 that they funded.

00:15:34.140 And what I found

00:15:35.860 very interesting

00:15:36.560 is the money's going out.

00:15:38.580 And then in these reports,

00:15:41.140 they're saying,

00:15:41.800 well,

00:15:41.920 we hired a,

00:15:42.580 or we didn't hire,

00:15:43.580 we got a bunch of volunteers

00:15:45.480 to plant the trees.

00:15:47.300 Well,

00:15:47.660 you know,

00:15:48.380 I mean,

00:15:48.980 trees shouldn't cost

00:15:50.360 a lot of money.

00:15:51.360 If you go to a company

00:15:52.520 called Tree Time

00:15:53.660 that's in Alberta,

00:15:55.960 you can get

00:15:56.620 little bundles of seedlings

00:15:58.040 and I got some this year

00:15:59.420 for a very,

00:16:00.940 very cheap price.

00:16:02.400 And they're frozen

00:16:04.420 and then you let them

00:16:05.860 thaw out

00:16:06.280 and you plant them

00:16:06.940 and boom,

00:16:07.420 you have a tree

00:16:08.020 for very,

00:16:08.860 very little money.

00:16:09.980 So the government

00:16:10.920 is paying people

00:16:11.960 hundreds of thousands

00:16:13.060 of dollars

00:16:13.760 and then those people

00:16:15.220 are getting volunteers

00:16:16.820 to plant the trees.

00:16:19.480 So where's this money

00:16:20.780 really going?

00:16:22.060 And just to let you know,

00:16:23.460 there's another thing

00:16:24.440 that's coming to Alberta

00:16:25.700 or not to Alberta,

00:16:26.780 to Canada

00:16:27.280 called the

00:16:27.900 One Trillion Tree Org.

00:16:29.540 Well,

00:16:30.700 this is a project

00:16:32.340 of the World Economic Forum,

00:16:34.440 of course.

00:16:36.140 And it's,

00:16:36.820 what's the guy's name?

00:16:39.700 Benioff,

00:16:40.300 Mark Benioff

00:16:41.100 of Salesforce.

00:16:43.100 It was his idea.

00:16:44.140 They want to plant

00:16:44.680 a trillion trees.

00:16:45.620 So they're getting people

00:16:46.460 to be involved in this.

00:16:49.440 Well,

00:16:49.720 you know,

00:16:50.100 really it's a carbon credit project.

00:16:53.180 So,

00:16:53.880 so if you're

00:16:54.760 a messy polluter,

00:16:56.180 then you can go

00:16:56.980 to some tree planted place

00:16:58.480 and say,

00:16:58.860 hey,

00:16:59.000 why don't I buy

00:16:59.900 your carbon credits?

00:17:01.740 And then we can pretend

00:17:02.820 that I didn't pollute.

00:17:04.400 So I'll pay you some money.

00:17:05.960 And,

00:17:06.340 you know,

00:17:06.540 so it's really just

00:17:07.380 the lack of delivery

00:17:08.660 of an invisible substance

00:17:10.180 to no one,

00:17:11.340 trading hands,

00:17:12.640 picking pockets

00:17:13.340 of the consumer.

00:17:14.960 And I think

00:17:15.860 it's also very dangerous.

00:17:17.040 Like our forestry consultant

00:17:18.640 pointed out

00:17:19.380 a long time ago

00:17:20.440 that,

00:17:21.560 and you can see it

00:17:22.840 in our burning questions

00:17:24.200 report

00:17:24.960 about coal

00:17:26.180 in Alberta,

00:17:26.920 that if you have

00:17:28.940 a forest

00:17:29.540 that is dedicated

00:17:30.400 to carbon credits

00:17:31.580 and you have

00:17:32.540 a wildfire,

00:17:34.500 somebody's going

00:17:35.580 to have

00:17:35.960 big liabilities.

00:17:37.980 Now,

00:17:38.160 who's going to pay

00:17:38.980 for all those

00:17:39.980 carbon credits

00:17:41.360 that just

00:17:42.320 poof,

00:17:43.320 not only went up

00:17:44.640 in smoke,

00:17:45.540 but they also created

00:17:46.540 more CO2?

00:17:47.400 the consumer

00:17:53.100 always.

00:17:54.520 To answer your question,

00:17:55.880 who's going to pay?

00:17:57.400 Always the consumer.

00:17:59.760 These people

00:18:00.440 just pass their costs

00:18:01.340 along to everybody else.

00:18:03.660 No,

00:18:04.200 no,

00:18:04.500 but we're talking

00:18:05.000 like millions of dollars.

00:18:07.140 Sure.

00:18:08.780 Yes.

00:18:09.760 Yes.

00:18:12.180 Before we move on,

00:18:13.280 I want to

00:18:14.180 talk to you

00:18:15.680 about this thing

00:18:16.280 that seems pretty

00:18:16.880 commonsensical

00:18:17.600 given what we've just,

00:18:19.700 again,

00:18:19.960 what we just lived

00:18:20.560 through with COVID

00:18:21.100 where all the models

00:18:22.440 were wrong

00:18:23.180 and then,

00:18:25.040 and overblown

00:18:25.920 and overheated

00:18:26.920 and exaggerated

00:18:27.780 and doomsaying.

00:18:30.280 And that's nothing new

00:18:31.960 actually because

00:18:33.000 all the models

00:18:33.660 have always been wrong

00:18:34.480 for climate change.

00:18:35.940 And so,

00:18:36.820 our premier here

00:18:37.740 in Alberta,

00:18:38.420 common sense kind of

00:18:39.380 lady named Daniel Smith

00:18:40.380 said,

00:18:41.220 you know what?

00:18:41.960 I don't trust

00:18:43.940 the models

00:18:44.740 that are consistently wrong

00:18:46.400 and CBC

00:18:47.100 lost the marbles

00:18:48.160 about it.

00:18:49.800 Yeah,

00:18:50.440 it was on

00:18:50.880 Power and Politics

00:18:51.680 just a short clip

00:18:53.160 a couple of weeks ago.

00:18:55.420 And,

00:18:56.100 of course,

00:18:56.880 the government

00:18:57.760 modeling,

00:18:58.580 and it comes from

00:18:59.440 these ENGOs,

00:19:00.660 of course,

00:19:01.740 that are always

00:19:02.780 trying to destroy

00:19:03.640 our industry anyway.

00:19:05.700 They have projected

00:19:07.440 that there will be

00:19:08.420 almost no demand

00:19:09.440 for oil and gas

00:19:10.900 in the future,

00:19:12.260 especially not

00:19:13.180 from Canada

00:19:13.800 because it's

00:19:14.300 more expensive here,

00:19:15.600 and also that

00:19:16.580 the price of oil

00:19:17.360 will be kaput.

00:19:19.200 But Robert Lyman

00:19:20.360 just did a report

00:19:21.520 for us

00:19:22.160 that summarizes

00:19:23.160 a report

00:19:23.840 that was normally

00:19:25.000 done by British Petroleum.

00:19:26.880 Now they have

00:19:27.420 a consulting firm

00:19:28.200 doing the report.

00:19:29.780 And,

00:19:29.980 of course,

00:19:30.160 it shows nothing

00:19:30.940 but that demand

00:19:33.480 for oil and gas

00:19:34.580 is expanding

00:19:36.300 all around the world

00:19:37.160 and coal.

00:19:38.360 And it's expanding,

00:19:39.700 of course,

00:19:40.000 in all the

00:19:40.680 non-OECD nations.

00:19:44.020 And in the OECD nations,

00:19:45.840 it's pretty much

00:19:46.360 flatlined.

00:19:47.460 But we sell

00:19:49.320 our oil

00:19:49.820 anywhere, right?

00:19:50.940 We could sell it

00:19:51.560 anywhere around the world.

00:19:52.640 So if there's demand,

00:19:54.840 why wouldn't we

00:19:55.680 take advantage of that?

00:19:56.800 It's a huge

00:19:57.480 income earner

00:19:58.380 for the country.

00:19:59.500 So if you're going

00:20:00.160 to phase out

00:20:00.860 oil and gas,

00:20:02.200 what are you going

00:20:02.760 to use

00:20:03.220 to replace

00:20:03.920 that revenue?

00:20:06.860 You know,

00:20:07.660 that's the revenue

00:20:08.320 that pays

00:20:08.880 for healthcare,

00:20:09.680 that pays

00:20:10.140 for big

00:20:11.840 infrastructure projects,

00:20:13.880 that pays

00:20:14.860 for the military,

00:20:15.900 that pays

00:20:16.600 compensation

00:20:17.420 to Indigenous

00:20:18.760 people.

00:20:19.280 Like,

00:20:19.600 if we don't

00:20:20.000 have the

00:20:20.520 resource industry

00:20:21.640 working on

00:20:22.980 all cylinders,

00:20:24.100 we don't have

00:20:25.340 that substantial

00:20:26.260 revenue.

00:20:26.780 And it's certainly

00:20:27.980 not going to

00:20:28.540 come from

00:20:29.060 other,

00:20:30.180 you know,

00:20:31.020 things like

00:20:31.640 banking industry

00:20:33.300 or insurance.

00:20:34.340 I mean,

00:20:34.500 all those industries

00:20:35.300 run on oil,

00:20:37.120 gas,

00:20:37.520 and coal.

00:20:38.060 They all need

00:20:38.700 energy.

00:20:39.560 So it's crazy.

00:20:42.220 Anyhow,

00:20:42.800 in the interview,

00:20:44.980 Premier Smith

00:20:46.180 said,

00:20:47.080 you know,

00:20:47.340 she didn't trust

00:20:47.940 the modeling.

00:20:48.620 And of course,

00:20:49.180 Alberta has been

00:20:50.020 an oil and gas

00:20:50.740 producer for decades

00:20:51.780 now.

00:20:52.100 So we have

00:20:52.940 a lot of

00:20:53.400 very smart

00:20:53.860 people in

00:20:54.940 government and

00:20:55.520 industry who

00:20:56.300 know world

00:20:57.000 markets very

00:20:57.660 well,

00:20:58.240 far better

00:20:58.840 than the

00:20:59.820 people at

00:21:00.300 CBC or

00:21:01.480 the federal

00:21:02.080 government,

00:21:02.660 obviously.

00:21:03.800 So,

00:21:04.340 you know,

00:21:04.700 it's hard to

00:21:05.100 know,

00:21:05.400 is it an

00:21:05.920 internal trade

00:21:06.740 war where

00:21:07.500 actually the

00:21:09.240 eastern oil and

00:21:10.420 gas interests

00:21:11.120 are trying to

00:21:11.620 keep their

00:21:12.000 share of the

00:21:12.500 market because

00:21:13.140 they're not

00:21:13.620 suffering the

00:21:14.140 same kind of

00:21:14.680 blockadia that

00:21:15.980 we are in

00:21:16.560 the West.

00:21:17.660 And,

00:21:17.980 you know,

00:21:18.120 a lot of

00:21:18.740 the groups

00:21:20.900 like David

00:21:21.900 Suzuki

00:21:22.340 Foundation was

00:21:23.220 funded by

00:21:23.720 Power Corp

00:21:24.540 and Power

00:21:25.060 Corporation's

00:21:25.800 interests are

00:21:26.440 not in

00:21:26.800 Western Canada.

00:21:28.640 You know,

00:21:29.000 they're

00:21:29.220 international and

00:21:30.440 certainly very

00:21:31.480 deeply embedded

00:21:32.180 in China.

00:21:33.440 So,

00:21:34.660 you know,

00:21:35.600 let's just say

00:21:37.020 that I think

00:21:37.600 Premier Smith has

00:21:38.660 her head on

00:21:39.460 right and the

00:21:40.580 report by

00:21:41.120 Robert Lyman

00:21:41.740 called when

00:21:42.580 the facts

00:21:43.600 collide with

00:21:44.280 climate alarm

00:21:45.080 makes a lot

00:21:46.240 of sense.

00:21:46.860 So,

00:21:47.280 everyone should

00:21:47.780 read that.

00:21:48.400 I like how

00:21:51.740 CBC is

00:21:52.340 shocked that

00:21:53.000 the developing

00:21:53.600 world might

00:21:54.220 want the

00:21:54.640 same standard

00:21:55.220 of living

00:21:56.180 that the

00:21:56.840 rest of us

00:21:57.460 want.

00:21:58.700 They seemed

00:21:59.660 kind of

00:22:00.160 taken aback

00:22:00.980 by the fact

00:22:02.420 that they

00:22:02.700 might want

00:22:03.460 electricity

00:22:04.520 and autoclaves

00:22:06.620 in their

00:22:06.960 hospitals and

00:22:07.900 cars and,

00:22:09.120 you know,

00:22:10.640 public

00:22:10.960 transportation

00:22:11.720 and hospitals.

00:22:14.020 Public sanitation.

00:22:14.600 Water treatment.

00:22:15.720 Fresh water.

00:22:16.460 Yeah,

00:22:16.720 water treatment.

00:22:18.140 They seemed

00:22:18.920 really taken

00:22:19.500 aback by the

00:22:20.580 fact that the

00:22:21.080 developing world

00:22:21.760 might just

00:22:22.260 leapfrog over

00:22:23.260 those things

00:22:23.960 and just end

00:22:25.200 up with,

00:22:25.900 you know,

00:22:26.660 driving electric

00:22:27.740 cars in

00:22:29.600 their,

00:22:29.980 around their

00:22:30.220 15-minute

00:22:30.740 cities.

00:22:33.100 Now,

00:22:34.740 I think you

00:22:35.260 just briefly

00:22:36.060 touched on the

00:22:36.580 fact that the

00:22:37.260 OECD countries

00:22:38.640 seem to be

00:22:39.140 flatlining with

00:22:39.900 their oil and

00:22:40.380 gas use.

00:22:41.600 And I think

00:22:42.080 that is,

00:22:42.680 in part,

00:22:44.860 it has

00:22:45.240 something to

00:22:45.780 do with

00:22:46.200 the government's

00:22:46.960 mandating certain

00:22:49.200 lifestyle behaviors

00:22:50.960 for us that

00:22:51.900 drive up the

00:22:52.600 cost of living.

00:22:54.100 And I think

00:22:54.580 the banks are

00:22:55.380 propping that

00:22:55.980 up and the

00:22:56.640 insurance companies

00:22:57.500 are propping

00:22:58.160 that up.

00:22:58.900 And Mark

00:22:59.720 Carney,

00:23:00.360 the former

00:23:00.820 head of the

00:23:01.300 Bank of

00:23:01.680 Canada,

00:23:02.140 now the

00:23:02.560 climate czar

00:23:03.600 at the

00:23:04.000 United Nations

00:23:04.740 has a lot

00:23:05.240 to do with

00:23:05.720 that.

00:23:06.960 This seems

00:23:07.960 to be his

00:23:08.500 thing is

00:23:09.200 social license

00:23:10.820 in the

00:23:11.260 banking industry.

00:23:12.680 And I

00:23:13.040 find this

00:23:13.400 very chilling

00:23:14.000 because with

00:23:14.720 this push

00:23:15.240 for digital

00:23:15.780 currency and

00:23:17.100 the banks

00:23:17.560 adopting all

00:23:18.520 these climate

00:23:19.140 targets,

00:23:21.360 where does

00:23:22.300 that leave

00:23:23.180 us?

00:23:24.700 And then

00:23:25.400 you look at

00:23:26.200 that through

00:23:26.460 the lens

00:23:26.960 of what

00:23:28.020 happened with

00:23:28.580 the Freedom

00:23:28.920 Convoy where

00:23:29.560 you could just

00:23:29.960 have your

00:23:30.220 bank account

00:23:30.640 turned off

00:23:31.140 because of

00:23:31.680 your politics.

00:23:33.580 Where does

00:23:34.000 it leave

00:23:34.320 us?

00:23:35.260 Are we

00:23:35.920 marching

00:23:36.280 towards you

00:23:36.860 could have

00:23:37.120 your bank

00:23:37.420 account turned

00:23:37.920 off because

00:23:38.380 you drove

00:23:39.800 a little

00:23:41.140 too far

00:23:41.720 and ate

00:23:42.540 a little

00:23:42.800 too much

00:23:43.240 meat?

00:23:44.880 Yes,

00:23:45.500 I'm sure

00:23:46.120 that we

00:23:46.460 are marching

00:23:46.960 directly toward

00:23:47.740 that because

00:23:48.280 one of the

00:23:49.000 things that

00:23:49.660 Mark Carney

00:23:50.160 was interested

00:23:50.880 in implementing

00:23:52.960 for many years

00:23:53.840 now is the

00:23:54.560 digital currency.

00:23:56.360 And the

00:23:57.000 theory was

00:23:57.820 that somehow

00:23:58.260 this would

00:23:58.760 stop climate

00:23:59.520 change.

00:24:00.160 Now,

00:24:00.400 of course,

00:24:01.240 imagine that

00:24:02.560 there's some

00:24:03.200 massive

00:24:03.860 supercomputer

00:24:04.600 counting every

00:24:05.720 little thing

00:24:06.400 that you

00:24:06.800 and I

00:24:07.100 buy and

00:24:07.720 use every

00:24:08.720 place that

00:24:09.300 we go to

00:24:10.560 make sure

00:24:11.020 that we

00:24:11.420 have a

00:24:11.920 personal

00:24:12.320 carbon

00:24:12.840 ration that

00:24:14.420 is not

00:24:14.940 exceeded.

00:24:16.800 Well,

00:24:17.560 the only way

00:24:18.280 that it makes

00:24:18.860 sense to have

00:24:19.480 this huge

00:24:20.060 supercomputer

00:24:20.720 that's draining

00:24:22.320 all the

00:24:22.760 energy in

00:24:23.760 the world

00:24:24.360 to count

00:24:25.400 every carbon

00:24:26.100 molecule of

00:24:27.060 yours and

00:24:27.880 mine is

00:24:29.400 if they're

00:24:30.140 at the same

00:24:30.720 time limiting

00:24:31.660 every single

00:24:32.840 thing that you

00:24:33.760 use or

00:24:34.320 consume or

00:24:34.980 do.

00:24:36.240 So,

00:24:36.940 that is the

00:24:38.320 objective.

00:24:39.020 And I did

00:24:39.800 a presentation

00:24:40.680 for the

00:24:41.320 Alberta

00:24:41.600 Prosperity

00:24:42.300 Project a

00:24:43.120 few months

00:24:43.540 ago and it

00:24:44.360 was about

00:24:44.720 lockdowns.

00:24:47.000 And it's

00:24:47.300 interesting that

00:24:47.960 in 2020,

00:24:49.860 no,

00:24:50.300 sorry,

00:24:50.600 in 2016,

00:24:51.360 there was a

00:24:51.980 report written

00:24:52.620 called Deadline

00:24:53.520 2020.

00:24:54.660 In that report

00:24:55.880 for the major

00:24:57.000 cities,

00:24:57.740 they were

00:24:58.160 planning that

00:24:59.020 people should

00:24:59.620 only have

00:25:00.460 a 2.9

00:25:01.700 ton carbon

00:25:02.640 CO2

00:25:04.300 equivalent

00:25:05.020 carbon

00:25:05.760 footprint.

00:25:06.920 That's about

00:25:07.820 the level

00:25:09.000 of the

00:25:09.320 people who

00:25:09.740 live in

00:25:10.160 Cuba.

00:25:11.380 So,

00:25:11.620 in Canada,

00:25:12.500 we typically

00:25:13.440 have a

00:25:14.080 personal

00:25:14.420 carbon

00:25:14.980 footprint

00:25:15.520 of about

00:25:16.220 17,

00:25:17.660 16 tons.

00:25:19.260 So,

00:25:19.960 imagine

00:25:20.460 reducing

00:25:21.080 your

00:25:21.520 lifestyle,

00:25:23.020 your heating,

00:25:23.820 your food

00:25:24.240 consumption,

00:25:24.920 your travel

00:25:25.460 to 2.9

00:25:26.960 tons

00:25:27.700 CO2

00:25:28.580 equivalent

00:25:29.080 from

00:25:29.980 16 or

00:25:30.820 17.

00:25:31.240 17.

00:25:32.100 So,

00:25:32.820 you know,

00:25:33.180 that would

00:25:33.600 simply be

00:25:34.100 deadly for

00:25:34.740 us.

00:25:38.800 Well,

00:25:39.560 and to

00:25:40.900 think that

00:25:41.340 this is a

00:25:41.980 conspiracy

00:25:42.420 theory,

00:25:43.080 I mean,

00:25:43.960 it's really

00:25:44.540 not,

00:25:45.040 because this

00:25:45.700 is already

00:25:46.200 happening at

00:25:47.140 the industrial

00:25:48.120 level,

00:25:49.180 right?

00:25:49.440 they deny

00:25:51.680 financing

00:25:53.420 or insurance

00:25:54.400 to major

00:25:55.140 oil and gas

00:25:55.780 projects

00:25:56.280 because they

00:25:57.620 are not

00:25:58.080 complying

00:25:58.740 with whatever

00:26:00.680 the bank

00:26:01.200 has decided

00:26:01.860 the climate

00:26:02.420 targets are,

00:26:03.180 and those

00:26:03.420 seem to be

00:26:03.920 the ones

00:26:04.540 from the

00:26:05.520 UN.

00:26:05.980 So,

00:26:06.400 this is

00:26:06.840 already

00:26:07.120 happening

00:26:07.660 to big

00:26:09.220 corporations.

00:26:10.220 It's hard

00:26:10.520 to feel sorry

00:26:11.020 for big

00:26:11.420 corporations,

00:26:12.160 but I feel

00:26:12.560 sorry for

00:26:12.960 the people

00:26:13.320 who work

00:26:13.740 at those

00:26:14.020 big

00:26:14.240 corporations.

00:26:14.980 Those are

00:26:15.160 jobs,

00:26:15.700 those are

00:26:15.940 families,

00:26:16.700 and so

00:26:17.540 why wouldn't

00:26:18.140 they do

00:26:18.480 this to

00:26:18.960 us?

00:26:19.280 We're

00:26:19.520 the

00:26:19.740 little

00:26:19.980 guys.

00:26:21.500 Well,

00:26:22.080 and the

00:26:22.460 thing is,

00:26:22.860 with the

00:26:23.100 big

00:26:23.260 corporations,

00:26:24.160 as we

00:26:24.640 mentioned

00:26:24.960 before,

00:26:26.240 they can

00:26:27.020 either get

00:26:27.440 into the

00:26:27.840 carbon

00:26:28.120 trading

00:26:29.040 markets

00:26:29.660 and pretend

00:26:31.240 that they're

00:26:31.740 not emitting,

00:26:33.160 or they

00:26:34.000 can move

00:26:34.540 offshore,

00:26:35.180 which is

00:26:35.540 why there's

00:26:36.260 been a

00:26:36.560 decline in

00:26:37.160 energy use

00:26:37.900 in North

00:26:38.320 America

00:26:38.720 and in

00:26:40.680 the other

00:26:41.000 OECD

00:26:41.980 countries,

00:26:42.600 because any

00:26:43.200 energy-intensive

00:26:44.260 company has

00:26:45.680 left,

00:26:46.820 like steel

00:26:47.540 manufacturers

00:26:48.320 in

00:26:48.800 the UK

00:26:49.540 left for

00:26:50.200 India.

00:26:51.880 No-brainer.

00:26:53.400 And really,

00:26:54.560 I have to

00:26:54.960 say that

00:26:56.000 people keep

00:26:57.440 thinking that

00:26:58.100 this is all

00:26:58.820 about climate

00:26:59.300 change and

00:26:59.800 saving the

00:27:00.260 planet,

00:27:01.100 but actually

00:27:01.620 what if it

00:27:02.240 is part of

00:27:03.300 the Chinese

00:27:04.260 100-year

00:27:04.920 plan to

00:27:05.640 take over

00:27:06.120 the world

00:27:06.680 and we're

00:27:07.580 just playing

00:27:08.060 along with

00:27:08.660 it?

00:27:09.120 Can anyone

00:27:09.720 see it from

00:27:10.440 a geopolitical

00:27:11.320 point of

00:27:11.780 view that

00:27:12.860 if all

00:27:14.200 the Western

00:27:14.700 countries are

00:27:15.320 being gutted

00:27:16.960 and economically

00:27:17.800 damaged and

00:27:19.140 one country

00:27:20.100 in the

00:27:20.380 world has

00:27:21.760 a plan

00:27:22.260 called Made

00:27:22.960 in China

00:27:23.440 2025 and

00:27:25.800 it's a plan

00:27:26.760 that also

00:27:27.200 wants to

00:27:28.080 take over

00:27:31.380 all the

00:27:35.320 rare metals

00:27:36.040 of the world

00:27:37.360 and they're

00:27:37.920 already doing

00:27:38.660 this to

00:27:39.340 Europe.

00:27:40.000 They're already

00:27:40.520 using extortion

00:27:44.200 on Europe

00:27:44.800 with regard

00:27:45.860 to the

00:27:46.900 rare metals

00:27:48.900 that China

00:27:49.460 supplies to

00:27:50.280 Europe.

00:27:50.980 So that

00:27:51.880 will shut

00:27:52.380 down certain

00:27:53.060 forms of

00:27:53.580 manufacturing

00:27:54.220 there.

00:27:55.260 Why don't

00:27:56.020 we ever

00:27:56.480 look at

00:27:56.840 this from

00:27:57.240 a geopolitical

00:27:58.040 point of

00:27:58.480 view and

00:27:58.780 say,

00:27:59.080 hey,

00:27:59.940 you know

00:28:00.160 what,

00:28:00.360 maybe climate

00:28:00.900 change

00:28:01.280 actually is

00:28:01.880 an economic

00:28:02.880 trade war

00:28:03.500 against the

00:28:04.040 West.

00:28:04.940 Maybe we

00:28:05.660 should stop

00:28:06.460 playing this

00:28:07.340 game for a

00:28:07.960 while and

00:28:09.140 sort this out

00:28:10.080 first.

00:28:12.380 Yeah,

00:28:13.200 you know,

00:28:13.620 I'm glad you

00:28:14.260 mentioned that

00:28:14.720 because that's

00:28:15.280 sort of how I

00:28:16.400 look at the

00:28:18.360 climate change

00:28:19.200 agenda.

00:28:19.720 You look to

00:28:20.200 see who

00:28:20.660 benefits through

00:28:22.620 these policies

00:28:23.420 to see,

00:28:24.360 you know,

00:28:25.280 really what the

00:28:26.160 war is.

00:28:26.600 And I think

00:28:27.320 of climate

00:28:28.020 change as

00:28:28.500 just one

00:28:29.620 battleground

00:28:30.640 where we

00:28:32.680 don't even

00:28:33.000 realize we're

00:28:33.700 fighting China

00:28:34.560 for global

00:28:35.460 supremacy.

00:28:36.560 You know,

00:28:36.800 again, I'm

00:28:37.900 going to sound

00:28:38.280 conspiracy-minded,

00:28:39.060 but if you

00:28:39.500 look at

00:28:39.840 TikTok,

00:28:40.340 which is

00:28:40.640 a Chinese

00:28:41.080 app,

00:28:41.800 it seems

00:28:42.300 to be

00:28:42.580 rewiring

00:28:43.120 the brains

00:28:43.620 of our

00:28:43.820 young people

00:28:44.320 to make

00:28:44.700 them weaker,

00:28:45.400 stupider,

00:28:45.840 more woke,

00:28:46.600 and more

00:28:47.180 vulnerable.

00:28:49.020 And once

00:28:50.440 you look at,

00:28:51.100 you know,

00:28:51.380 social media,

00:28:53.120 climate change,

00:28:54.680 and the

00:28:55.040 economic,

00:28:56.100 really,

00:28:57.540 the takeover

00:28:58.420 of what China

00:28:59.060 is trying to

00:28:59.460 do to the

00:28:59.900 world,

00:29:00.860 they have a

00:29:01.820 hundred-year

00:29:02.220 plan.

00:29:02.780 They're fighting

00:29:03.140 a war that

00:29:03.660 we don't even

00:29:04.160 know we're in.

00:29:05.840 That's right.

00:29:06.580 And not only

00:29:07.180 that,

00:29:07.980 you know,

00:29:08.220 people have

00:29:08.640 to realize

00:29:09.160 that a lot

00:29:09.700 of money

00:29:10.120 from the

00:29:10.540 West is

00:29:11.120 sunk in

00:29:11.680 China,

00:29:12.020 so it's

00:29:13.560 stuck there.

00:29:14.360 So that's

00:29:14.720 a very big

00:29:15.280 lever.

00:29:16.260 You know,

00:29:16.640 Canada Pension

00:29:17.300 Plan was

00:29:18.020 financing coal

00:29:19.840 in China,

00:29:21.240 so I'm sure

00:29:22.100 all the Alberta

00:29:22.740 coal workers

00:29:23.460 who are on

00:29:24.020 the skids now

00:29:24.760 feel pretty

00:29:25.700 good about

00:29:26.160 that.

00:29:27.380 You know,

00:29:28.460 they're financing

00:29:29.280 apparently military

00:29:31.060 equipment in

00:29:32.620 China,

00:29:33.280 which will be

00:29:34.240 used against

00:29:34.940 us.

00:29:35.240 There's

00:29:36.240 another book

00:29:36.760 about China's

00:29:38.040 domination of

00:29:39.020 the pharmaceuticals

00:29:40.180 of the world

00:29:41.060 and how they

00:29:41.760 very cleverly,

00:29:42.860 you know,

00:29:43.420 entered the

00:29:43.860 markets,

00:29:45.100 had a lower

00:29:45.920 priced product,

00:29:47.540 ran people out

00:29:48.840 of business in

00:29:49.560 Europe and the

00:29:50.100 U.S.,

00:29:50.800 and created

00:29:51.720 market dominance

00:29:52.620 for themselves.

00:29:53.580 Well,

00:29:53.820 now if you

00:29:54.420 need pharmaceuticals

00:29:55.680 and they're all

00:29:56.180 in China's hands

00:29:57.180 and a conflict

00:29:58.320 breaks out between

00:29:59.200 the U.S.

00:29:59.780 and China,

00:30:01.060 you know,

00:30:03.000 they're going to

00:30:03.720 have a very

00:30:04.420 strong lever

00:30:05.120 on the

00:30:06.200 entire health

00:30:07.600 of all the

00:30:08.880 people in

00:30:09.320 the OECD

00:30:10.040 nations.

00:30:12.060 So,

00:30:12.680 you know,

00:30:12.940 they've been

00:30:13.400 very clever

00:30:14.140 in their

00:30:15.000 strategies.

00:30:15.920 I don't

00:30:16.360 condone it,

00:30:17.540 but,

00:30:18.040 you know,

00:30:18.440 you have to

00:30:18.940 hand it to

00:30:19.440 them that

00:30:19.760 they've been

00:30:20.140 thinking ahead

00:30:20.940 and we

00:30:21.720 haven't been

00:30:22.120 thinking at

00:30:22.620 all.

00:30:24.780 Yeah,

00:30:25.360 so,

00:30:25.840 you know,

00:30:26.680 and oddly,

00:30:27.720 as you mentioned

00:30:28.480 about the

00:30:28.840 banks,

00:30:29.320 you know,

00:30:30.000 Bank of

00:30:30.400 Canada is

00:30:31.040 playing along

00:30:31.640 with all

00:30:32.060 this.

00:30:32.360 They just

00:30:32.640 recently issued

00:30:33.540 a climate

00:30:34.420 risk assessment

00:30:35.400 and I

00:30:38.720 did a video

00:30:39.340 about it.

00:30:40.160 You know,

00:30:40.420 it's a

00:30:40.960 ludicrous

00:30:41.580 document.

00:30:42.640 They have a

00:30:43.040 whole bevy of

00:30:44.100 people working

00:30:44.740 on climate

00:30:45.260 risk assessments

00:30:46.120 all the time

00:30:46.960 and they're

00:30:47.800 using an

00:30:48.380 implausible

00:30:49.040 model basis,

00:30:50.460 RCP 8.5.

00:30:53.120 And a woman

00:30:53.580 named Professor

00:30:55.060 Jessica Winkle

00:30:56.080 testified to the

00:30:57.440 U.S.

00:30:58.320 Senate recently.

00:31:00.920 it was this

00:31:01.580 spring,

00:31:02.000 I don't

00:31:02.180 exactly remember,

00:31:03.120 maybe March,

00:31:04.220 that all

00:31:04.960 of the

00:31:05.280 basis for

00:31:06.680 climate change

00:31:07.620 modeling is

00:31:09.400 conflicted.

00:31:10.580 So you

00:31:10.880 have consulting

00:31:13.120 firms hiring

00:31:14.460 IPCC lead

00:31:16.320 modelers to

00:31:18.140 concoct models

00:31:20.320 that support

00:31:21.380 the conclusions

00:31:22.300 of the

00:31:23.800 consulting firm.

00:31:25.900 And in many

00:31:26.540 cases, the

00:31:27.100 firm is

00:31:27.660 McKinsey,

00:31:28.780 the world's

00:31:29.480 largest management

00:31:30.500 firm.

00:31:31.420 So, you

00:31:32.620 know, and

00:31:33.400 if we

00:31:33.740 recall, who

00:31:34.380 did we have

00:31:35.020 consulting in

00:31:35.820 Canada?

00:31:36.640 Dominique

00:31:37.160 Barton of

00:31:38.320 McKinsey, who

00:31:39.400 was working

00:31:39.920 for $1 a

00:31:40.900 year for the

00:31:41.760 Canadian

00:31:42.080 government,

00:31:42.660 giving them

00:31:43.040 advice on

00:31:44.180 how to

00:31:44.520 proceed for

00:31:45.140 a new

00:31:46.120 clean economy.

00:31:47.720 I wonder

00:31:48.100 who that

00:31:48.480 benefited.

00:31:51.040 Well,

00:31:51.780 nobody works

00:31:53.040 for $1 a

00:31:53.660 year.

00:31:54.480 Nobody.

00:31:55.300 So there

00:31:56.180 was payment

00:31:56.620 in kind

00:31:57.260 somewhere else,

00:31:58.080 that's for

00:31:58.720 sure.

00:31:59.020 Now, one

00:32:00.900 of the

00:32:01.140 things, let's

00:32:02.380 just change

00:32:02.780 lanes away

00:32:03.200 from climate

00:32:03.560 change really

00:32:04.040 fast.

00:32:05.460 One of the

00:32:06.240 things that

00:32:06.980 you've been

00:32:07.720 focused on

00:32:08.600 is getting

00:32:09.340 to the

00:32:10.080 truth of

00:32:11.200 the mass

00:32:14.440 graves, which

00:32:16.760 are not mass

00:32:17.520 graves at all

00:32:18.280 in many

00:32:19.000 instances here

00:32:20.220 in Canada.

00:32:20.760 Canada, and

00:32:21.840 it's difficult

00:32:24.880 work to do

00:32:26.080 because you're

00:32:26.820 digging through

00:32:27.900 history, but

00:32:29.280 you're also

00:32:29.740 fighting censorship.

00:32:31.640 And, you

00:32:32.720 know, we've

00:32:33.380 heard musings

00:32:35.420 that you

00:32:36.180 should make

00:32:36.680 genocide

00:32:37.260 denialism

00:32:38.240 illegal in

00:32:40.860 Canada.

00:32:42.060 Tell us about

00:32:43.080 some of your

00:32:43.560 work to get

00:32:45.100 to the truth

00:32:46.060 about what

00:32:46.660 happened at

00:32:47.320 residential

00:32:47.780 schools here in

00:32:48.720 Canada.

00:32:49.040 Well, first

00:32:51.720 of all, I

00:32:52.060 just want to

00:32:52.440 mention this

00:32:52.940 is a personal

00:32:53.760 project of

00:32:54.380 mine, so

00:32:55.000 I worked

00:32:59.160 with Dr.

00:33:00.140 Hugh Dempsey

00:33:00.740 on many

00:33:01.980 documentaries

00:33:02.700 back in the

00:33:03.460 1980s.

00:33:04.600 I spent about

00:33:05.260 a decade of

00:33:06.000 my life in

00:33:06.700 and out of

00:33:07.080 the Glenbow

00:33:07.580 Museum archives.

00:33:08.820 I interviewed

00:33:11.020 hundreds of

00:33:12.060 southern Alberta

00:33:12.800 pioneers,

00:33:13.800 historians, and

00:33:15.620 descendants of

00:33:17.020 the early

00:33:18.200 pioneers and

00:33:20.980 people who

00:33:21.740 signed treaties.

00:33:23.400 So, in my

00:33:25.200 view, there was

00:33:25.960 no genocide in

00:33:27.300 Alberta.

00:33:27.900 If anything, the

00:33:29.080 Mounties came

00:33:29.940 west and

00:33:30.520 stopped the

00:33:31.900 massacre of

00:33:33.640 the Blackfoot

00:33:34.420 nation, which

00:33:35.240 was going on by

00:33:36.200 the whiskey

00:33:37.020 traders who

00:33:38.300 really didn't

00:33:38.760 care about

00:33:39.680 anybody.

00:33:40.900 They were

00:33:41.460 feeding them

00:33:42.080 this horrible

00:33:42.880 mixture of

00:33:43.840 strychnine and

00:33:44.940 whiskey and

00:33:45.760 old tea.

00:33:47.940 You know, they

00:33:48.340 were killing

00:33:48.820 people, they

00:33:49.540 were raping and

00:33:51.200 pillaging,

00:33:51.760 literally.

00:33:52.780 The Assiniboine

00:33:53.560 tribe was

00:33:54.380 slaughtered prior

00:33:55.780 to the arrival

00:33:56.880 of the

00:33:57.280 Mounties in the

00:33:59.000 Cypress Hills by

00:34:00.320 the Bentham

00:34:00.940 Gang, which

00:34:01.540 came over the

00:34:02.140 border out of

00:34:02.900 the United

00:34:03.400 States.

00:34:03.900 So, what

00:34:04.860 people don't

00:34:05.340 realize is,

00:34:06.500 you know, the

00:34:06.820 U.S. was

00:34:07.520 running Indian

00:34:08.780 wars from

00:34:09.400 1622 to

00:34:10.720 1924.

00:34:12.580 The cavalry

00:34:13.680 was actively

00:34:14.600 pursuing Indian

00:34:16.580 bands in the

00:34:17.980 United States,

00:34:19.980 corralling them

00:34:20.720 and murdering

00:34:21.540 them.

00:34:21.820 That never

00:34:22.300 happened in

00:34:22.860 Canada.

00:34:23.380 That was not

00:34:24.080 the interaction

00:34:25.820 between First

00:34:26.520 Nations people

00:34:27.300 and the

00:34:28.120 traders in

00:34:28.760 Canada.

00:34:29.200 It was

00:34:29.440 always an

00:34:29.940 economic,

00:34:31.380 convivial

00:34:32.620 kind of

00:34:33.380 arrangement.

00:34:34.920 So, you

00:34:35.780 know, we

00:34:36.000 had about

00:34:36.360 300 years

00:34:37.240 here of,

00:34:38.700 if not

00:34:39.120 more, of

00:34:40.580 mutually

00:34:42.560 beneficial

00:34:43.320 trade.

00:34:44.460 And then

00:34:44.960 upon that,

00:34:45.620 the treaties

00:34:46.060 were built.

00:34:47.620 So, I

00:34:48.880 think that

00:34:49.340 the problem

00:34:50.900 is that

00:34:51.480 in many

00:34:53.860 First Nations

00:34:54.980 communities,

00:34:55.580 there were

00:34:56.880 a lot of

00:34:57.400 people who

00:34:57.940 died of

00:34:58.740 TB.

00:35:00.340 Or,

00:35:01.160 once the

00:35:02.380 family died

00:35:03.160 of TB,

00:35:03.880 the children

00:35:04.380 were sent

00:35:05.900 to a

00:35:06.440 residential

00:35:06.880 school for

00:35:07.540 care.

00:35:08.000 They basically

00:35:08.500 became

00:35:09.020 orphanages.

00:35:11.040 So, if

00:35:12.720 you look at

00:35:13.180 it from

00:35:13.460 that community's

00:35:14.360 perspective,

00:35:15.460 those people

00:35:16.040 were missing.

00:35:17.460 They disappeared.

00:35:18.720 The place

00:35:19.140 they went

00:35:19.700 was to a

00:35:20.920 residential

00:35:21.320 school.

00:35:22.480 So, and

00:35:23.680 they would

00:35:23.940 have no

00:35:24.280 reason to

00:35:24.740 come back

00:35:25.340 because there

00:35:26.340 was no

00:35:26.660 family left.

00:35:27.680 They were

00:35:27.960 orphaned.

00:35:28.680 But over

00:35:30.740 time, that

00:35:32.140 element of

00:35:32.900 fact would

00:35:33.660 become lost,

00:35:35.740 especially if

00:35:37.360 the family

00:35:38.200 was not

00:35:38.880 buried with

00:35:39.520 a headstone

00:35:40.180 on reserve

00:35:41.180 and if no

00:35:42.480 one was there

00:35:42.960 to care for

00:35:43.600 it.

00:35:44.240 These are

00:35:44.760 very, very

00:35:45.300 difficult times.

00:35:46.400 These were

00:35:46.680 times when

00:35:47.200 everyone was

00:35:47.780 extremely poor.

00:35:49.100 So, I think

00:35:49.460 this is where

00:35:49.980 the impression

00:35:51.440 that there

00:35:51.840 were thousands

00:35:52.360 of missing

00:35:53.120 and buried

00:35:55.020 children who

00:35:56.100 have no

00:35:58.180 documentation

00:36:00.800 comes from

00:36:01.900 because for

00:36:02.720 people living

00:36:03.440 on reserve

00:36:04.840 or in a

00:36:05.540 community, of

00:36:06.580 course, there

00:36:06.960 are these

00:36:07.300 people who

00:36:07.780 vanished.

00:36:08.940 But if you

00:36:09.880 look into

00:36:10.320 the archival

00:36:11.000 records, you

00:36:12.380 find that

00:36:13.160 there is

00:36:14.360 very good

00:36:15.200 documentation of

00:36:16.420 who the

00:36:16.880 person was

00:36:17.680 and yes, they

00:36:18.720 were given a

00:36:19.400 number, yes,

00:36:20.660 but that's so

00:36:21.420 that all of

00:36:22.400 their laundry

00:36:23.040 could be done

00:36:23.960 and tracked

00:36:24.560 and all of

00:36:25.140 their documents

00:36:25.800 could be done

00:36:26.420 and tracked.

00:36:27.000 It's just the

00:36:27.460 file number.

00:36:28.180 It's not like

00:36:28.640 at Auschwitz.

00:36:29.400 It was never

00:36:30.000 tattooed on

00:36:30.840 anyone's arm.

00:36:32.800 But you find

00:36:33.740 that the

00:36:34.060 documentation is

00:36:34.960 very good.

00:36:36.200 You know

00:36:36.780 the person's

00:36:37.680 name, their

00:36:38.720 family name,

00:36:40.320 their age.

00:36:41.600 A lot of

00:36:42.040 the children

00:36:42.440 who came into

00:36:43.120 care came in

00:36:43.840 at age four,

00:36:45.260 five, six.

00:36:46.320 This is all

00:36:46.960 under age,

00:36:47.840 according to

00:36:48.340 the government

00:36:48.800 regulation.

00:36:49.960 The only way

00:36:50.680 they would come

00:36:51.320 into that care

00:36:52.080 is if they

00:36:52.680 were orphaned,

00:36:53.880 destitute,

00:36:54.560 or the

00:36:55.920 family requested

00:36:56.900 aid or the

00:36:57.700 Indian agent

00:36:58.480 requested aid

00:36:59.540 if the family

00:37:00.580 say was

00:37:01.100 dysfunctional to

00:37:02.140 save the life

00:37:02.700 of the child.

00:37:03.940 So then you

00:37:05.740 have medical

00:37:06.700 records for

00:37:07.620 the child

00:37:08.080 entering as

00:37:08.780 well.

00:37:09.300 They were

00:37:09.600 examined before

00:37:10.600 being entered

00:37:11.420 into the

00:37:11.920 school to see

00:37:13.260 whether or not

00:37:13.780 they had TB.

00:37:14.620 That was a

00:37:15.000 main thing to

00:37:15.580 look for.

00:37:16.040 and if they

00:37:18.740 needed any

00:37:19.260 kind of

00:37:19.600 medical

00:37:19.900 treatment.

00:37:21.040 And then

00:37:21.400 if sadly

00:37:22.560 the child

00:37:23.100 died, there

00:37:23.740 is a death

00:37:24.220 certificate.

00:37:25.020 If they

00:37:25.260 died at the

00:37:25.820 school, there

00:37:26.260 was an

00:37:26.540 inquiry.

00:37:28.980 Statements

00:37:29.420 were issued

00:37:29.880 to the

00:37:30.280 parents.

00:37:31.520 And it

00:37:31.740 may be that

00:37:32.320 in some

00:37:32.720 instances,

00:37:33.240 people did

00:37:34.120 not get the

00:37:34.940 message in a

00:37:35.660 timely way.

00:37:36.560 Because some

00:37:37.660 of the parents

00:37:38.320 had their

00:37:39.520 children intentionally

00:37:40.420 put into

00:37:41.380 residential

00:37:41.980 schools because

00:37:43.060 they're working

00:37:43.540 on a trap

00:37:44.260 line.

00:37:45.040 They're going

00:37:45.420 out hunting.

00:37:46.320 That was

00:37:46.720 their occupation.

00:37:48.380 So it's much

00:37:49.220 easier if your

00:37:49.960 children are

00:37:50.560 cared for and

00:37:51.880 you're out in

00:37:52.260 the bush.

00:37:53.360 I mean,

00:37:53.860 there's a

00:37:54.520 really sad

00:37:55.420 story.

00:37:56.540 I don't know

00:37:56.900 if I can

00:37:57.240 find it off

00:37:58.060 the cuff.

00:37:59.280 There's a

00:37:59.780 very sad

00:38:00.320 story here

00:38:01.020 in Eric

00:38:02.080 Bay's book

00:38:02.780 where he

00:38:03.980 talks about

00:38:04.740 this is up

00:38:05.980 at Moose

00:38:06.780 Factory.

00:38:08.120 And he

00:38:08.360 said a

00:38:09.100 father had

00:38:12.280 come to the

00:38:12.780 post at

00:38:13.280 Albany to

00:38:13.900 report there

00:38:14.440 was no

00:38:14.820 food in

00:38:15.260 the tent.

00:38:16.180 His wife

00:38:16.640 was ill.

00:38:17.400 While at

00:38:17.760 the post,

00:38:18.640 he took

00:38:19.060 ill and

00:38:19.620 he died.

00:38:20.720 So the

00:38:21.120 Hudson Bay

00:38:21.640 Company

00:38:22.060 manager sent

00:38:23.000 out a

00:38:23.300 couple of

00:38:23.640 men with

00:38:24.120 grub.

00:38:24.980 And when

00:38:25.280 they got

00:38:25.600 to the

00:38:25.920 tent,

00:38:26.860 the mother

00:38:27.260 was dead

00:38:27.900 with five

00:38:28.680 children around

00:38:29.920 her.

00:38:30.620 The youngest

00:38:31.140 was a

00:38:31.620 babe of

00:38:32.000 two months,

00:38:33.020 was taken

00:38:33.500 in by a

00:38:34.060 relative.

00:38:34.780 The eldest

00:38:35.200 was a

00:38:35.700 boy of

00:38:36.000 16.

00:38:36.900 He went

00:38:37.320 with another

00:38:37.840 relative to

00:38:38.520 hunt.

00:38:39.180 And the

00:38:39.440 other three

00:38:39.900 children came

00:38:40.580 to the

00:38:40.900 school.

00:38:41.660 The youngest

00:38:42.060 of the

00:38:42.480 three died

00:38:43.360 while at

00:38:43.900 school during

00:38:44.560 a flu

00:38:44.940 epidemic.

00:38:46.420 So, you

00:38:47.140 know, imagine

00:38:47.700 that.

00:38:48.120 This is a

00:38:48.880 story that

00:38:49.340 happened more

00:38:49.920 than once.

00:38:50.540 But all

00:38:52.760 of those

00:38:53.100 people were

00:38:54.040 now missing,

00:38:55.000 right?

00:38:55.240 In the

00:38:55.520 minds of

00:38:55.920 the community,

00:38:56.500 they're missing.

00:38:57.240 We don't

00:38:57.540 even know

00:38:58.120 if that

00:38:58.980 orphaned

00:38:59.440 baby grew

00:38:59.980 up knowing

00:39:00.500 that its

00:39:02.500 own mother

00:39:02.980 had died.

00:39:04.960 You know,

00:39:05.300 so we

00:39:07.320 don't know

00:39:07.700 how the

00:39:08.120 son, the

00:39:08.740 16-year-old

00:39:09.380 son, how

00:39:09.880 would he

00:39:10.240 remember that?

00:39:11.220 He would

00:39:11.560 remember that

00:39:12.120 his siblings

00:39:12.600 went to

00:39:13.320 residential

00:39:13.920 school and

00:39:14.500 never came

00:39:15.000 home.

00:39:15.240 So, you

00:39:18.040 know, it's

00:39:18.280 a very

00:39:18.580 complex

00:39:19.280 history that

00:39:21.120 we have

00:39:21.660 and it's

00:39:22.920 being swept

00:39:24.820 away with

00:39:25.580 the theme

00:39:26.000 of genocide

00:39:26.700 as if all

00:39:28.660 of these

00:39:29.820 people who

00:39:31.680 died were

00:39:32.260 intentionally

00:39:32.800 murdered.

00:39:34.160 And that's

00:39:34.960 really the

00:39:35.440 fundamental thing

00:39:36.280 about genocide.

00:39:36.920 There has to

00:39:37.540 be an intent

00:39:38.400 to wipe out

00:39:39.840 a population.

00:39:41.100 Well, why

00:39:43.180 would you

00:39:43.460 build a

00:39:43.800 residential

00:39:44.260 school and

00:39:44.940 staff it

00:39:45.520 and bring

00:39:45.940 food and

00:39:47.600 organize

00:39:48.600 events for

00:39:50.140 hundreds,

00:39:51.080 thousands,

00:39:51.580 150,000

00:39:52.640 children?

00:39:53.420 Why would

00:39:53.840 you do

00:39:54.120 that if

00:39:54.900 your intention

00:39:55.380 was to

00:39:55.840 wipe them

00:39:56.200 out?

00:39:59.500 Yeah, it's

00:40:00.300 all portrayed

00:40:00.980 very black

00:40:01.820 and white

00:40:02.360 in all of

00:40:04.180 this, that

00:40:05.320 this was

00:40:06.620 entirely bad

00:40:07.740 and there

00:40:08.480 was no

00:40:08.980 good.

00:40:10.140 There weren't

00:40:10.960 people with

00:40:11.660 good intentions

00:40:12.520 and all of

00:40:13.180 this and

00:40:14.260 it is as

00:40:15.460 woke watch

00:40:18.820 Canada writes

00:40:19.680 quite likely

00:40:21.460 will lead to

00:40:22.380 a balkanization

00:40:23.260 of Canada

00:40:23.740 and we've

00:40:24.100 seen this.

00:40:24.580 I mean,

00:40:24.840 it's becoming

00:40:26.160 like this

00:40:27.560 every Canada

00:40:28.460 Day where

00:40:29.920 now you

00:40:31.000 can't celebrate

00:40:31.900 Canada Day

00:40:32.680 because of the

00:40:33.400 history of

00:40:34.040 residential

00:40:34.540 schools.

00:40:35.720 There's a

00:40:36.120 push for

00:40:37.780 reparations

00:40:39.960 funds to

00:40:40.400 be paid

00:40:41.000 now to

00:40:42.440 survivors of

00:40:43.660 residential

00:40:44.100 schools, but

00:40:44.620 not just

00:40:44.960 survivors,

00:40:45.800 families,

00:40:46.440 communities,

00:40:47.040 people who

00:40:47.440 are by

00:40:48.380 and large

00:40:48.740 not even

00:40:49.980 affected by

00:40:51.460 residential

00:40:52.040 schools.

00:40:53.740 And it

00:40:54.520 just, I

00:40:56.160 am concerned

00:40:56.760 that it will

00:40:57.220 fracture our

00:40:57.940 country in a

00:40:58.500 way that I

00:40:59.940 think is both

00:41:00.480 unfair and

00:41:01.120 possibly

00:41:01.540 irreparable.

00:41:02.120 I think

00:41:04.580 that you're

00:41:05.160 right.

00:41:05.620 I think

00:41:05.900 that real

00:41:06.620 possibility

00:41:07.240 exists and

00:41:08.880 I think

00:41:09.740 there's two

00:41:10.440 things that

00:41:11.180 people should

00:41:11.840 create.

00:41:14.620 One is

00:41:15.620 this just

00:41:16.480 came out

00:41:17.060 on June

00:41:17.840 the 20th

00:41:18.580 and it's

00:41:19.740 the Justice

00:41:20.500 Department's

00:41:21.560 action plan

00:41:23.020 for the

00:41:24.620 United Nations

00:41:25.880 Declaration on

00:41:27.140 the Rights of

00:41:27.640 Indigenous

00:41:27.980 People to

00:41:29.280 implement this

00:41:30.220 Act.

00:41:31.620 And basically

00:41:32.840 it requires

00:41:34.600 that everything

00:41:35.220 in Canada

00:41:35.860 now be

00:41:36.520 aligned with

00:41:37.580 UNDRIP as

00:41:38.500 it's nicknamed

00:41:39.300 and be

00:41:42.660 Indigenous

00:41:43.220 led.

00:41:45.200 And the

00:41:45.880 other thing

00:41:46.220 people should

00:41:46.760 know is

00:41:47.480 that this

00:41:49.240 is from the

00:41:49.720 Fraser Institute

00:41:50.480 by Dr.

00:41:51.460 Tom Flanagan

00:41:52.260 that the

00:41:53.180 reparations or

00:41:54.160 compensation now

00:41:55.180 being planned

00:41:55.940 is in the

00:41:56.940 order of

00:41:57.360 60 billion

00:41:58.480 dollars.

00:41:59.080 So, you

00:42:01.100 know, people

00:42:02.260 are being

00:42:03.340 recognized for

00:42:04.540 their statements

00:42:05.660 of claim.

00:42:06.980 However, people

00:42:07.920 should also know

00:42:08.720 that none of

00:42:09.600 the recollections

00:42:10.820 which are

00:42:11.300 written in the

00:42:12.040 Truth and

00:42:12.440 Reconciliation

00:42:13.060 Reports were

00:42:15.360 ever cross

00:42:15.940 examined.

00:42:16.800 These are

00:42:17.240 statements from

00:42:17.940 people who

00:42:19.780 in some cases

00:42:20.780 stand to gain

00:42:22.020 $125,000

00:42:23.820 in compensation.

00:42:25.860 So, never

00:42:28.440 subjected to

00:42:29.220 cross

00:42:29.640 examination, no

00:42:31.440 evidence per

00:42:32.500 se was

00:42:32.980 required.

00:42:34.420 So, you

00:42:35.260 know, it's

00:42:35.580 problematic

00:42:36.040 because the

00:42:37.200 entire country

00:42:38.020 is being made

00:42:38.760 to feel guilty

00:42:39.920 of genocide

00:42:41.320 when there's

00:42:42.760 no evidence

00:42:43.600 of genocide.

00:42:45.800 When, as

00:42:47.480 Terry Glavin

00:42:48.240 wrote in one

00:42:48.940 of his

00:42:49.260 articles, The

00:42:50.060 Year of the

00:42:50.680 Graves, he

00:42:51.380 wrote that

00:42:51.840 most of the

00:42:52.640 claimed mass

00:42:54.220 grave sites or

00:42:55.280 unmarked grave

00:42:56.040 sites were

00:42:57.000 grave sites

00:42:57.620 that were

00:42:58.000 already well

00:42:58.820 known to

00:43:00.040 the local

00:43:00.600 First Nations

00:43:01.260 communities.

00:43:02.540 So, you

00:43:03.240 know, all

00:43:03.580 of a sudden

00:43:04.000 they all

00:43:04.420 started popping

00:43:05.000 up in the

00:43:05.500 news as if

00:43:06.320 no one ever

00:43:07.200 knew there

00:43:07.520 was a graveyard

00:43:08.080 there or

00:43:09.220 that there

00:43:09.600 were unmarked

00:43:10.240 graves.

00:43:11.920 Well, yeah,

00:43:12.900 everyone knew.

00:43:14.020 So, why did

00:43:15.200 it become a

00:43:15.820 media phenomenon?

00:43:16.980 You know, what

00:43:17.460 is the end

00:43:18.720 goal here?

00:43:19.520 And I think

00:43:20.560 one of the

00:43:21.060 end goals

00:43:21.660 actually does

00:43:22.720 go back to

00:43:23.300 the climate

00:43:23.680 change issue

00:43:24.320 and that's

00:43:25.020 nature-based

00:43:26.240 solutions.

00:43:27.860 So, excuse

00:43:29.480 me, just let

00:43:30.100 me get a

00:43:30.480 drink here.

00:43:35.400 The whole

00:43:36.140 nature-based

00:43:36.720 solutions thing

00:43:37.660 is the idea

00:43:39.000 of, again,

00:43:39.700 selling carbon

00:43:40.400 credits on

00:43:41.220 pristine,

00:43:41.940 untouched

00:43:42.380 forestry,

00:43:43.300 water, blue

00:43:44.340 carbon, wetlands,

00:43:46.720 and supposedly

00:43:49.000 that all the

00:43:49.860 young people,

00:43:50.720 rather than

00:43:51.180 becoming doctors

00:43:52.560 and scientists

00:43:53.300 and astronauts

00:43:54.300 would go

00:43:55.140 back to

00:43:55.540 being land

00:43:57.320 keepers,

00:43:58.020 land

00:43:58.260 guardians,

00:43:59.040 water

00:43:59.320 guardians,

00:44:00.240 fire

00:44:01.600 watchers,

00:44:02.960 you know,

00:44:03.280 in sort

00:44:03.760 of a

00:44:04.060 quasi-traditional

00:44:05.440 knowledge-keeper

00:44:07.580 way.

00:44:08.680 Now, of

00:44:09.620 course, there

00:44:10.220 are some

00:44:10.880 traditional

00:44:11.820 knowledge

00:44:12.600 aspects that

00:44:14.020 are important

00:44:14.740 to communities,

00:44:16.220 they're important

00:44:16.940 to development,

00:44:18.100 and they should

00:44:18.760 be respected,

00:44:19.440 but, you

00:44:20.760 know, we're

00:44:21.380 basically creating

00:44:22.420 an apartheid

00:44:23.200 situation with

00:44:24.280 this document

00:44:26.100 that is more

00:44:28.060 or less kind

00:44:28.640 of the Garden

00:44:29.360 of Eden,

00:44:30.240 noble,

00:44:30.840 savage view

00:44:32.020 of Indigenous

00:44:33.260 people.

00:44:34.500 When, you

00:44:35.400 know, if you

00:44:35.720 look at the

00:44:36.100 residential school

00:44:36.940 history, you

00:44:37.680 find that the

00:44:40.200 residential schools

00:44:41.140 were turning out

00:44:41.840 successful farmers,

00:44:43.500 successful ranchers,

00:44:46.120 successful managers,

00:44:47.260 authors, artists,

00:44:49.520 nurses, you

00:44:51.900 know, there's a

00:44:53.600 whole record of

00:44:55.120 people who came

00:44:55.940 out of Indian

00:44:56.700 residential schools

00:44:57.740 who are very,

00:44:58.520 very competent,

00:45:00.200 and actually many

00:45:01.700 of the leading

00:45:03.040 figures, even in

00:45:05.100 the reconciliation

00:45:05.760 thing, are people

00:45:07.520 who graduated from

00:45:08.860 residential school,

00:45:10.520 and, you know,

00:45:11.260 if you look and

00:45:12.300 you see most of

00:45:14.440 the population of

00:45:15.740 Indigenous people in

00:45:16.740 Canada can speak

00:45:17.720 English to one

00:45:18.580 degree or another,

00:45:19.880 often very good.

00:45:21.380 Well, that's a

00:45:22.080 product of schooling

00:45:23.720 and enculturation.

00:45:25.720 So, you know,

00:45:27.440 it's not like people

00:45:28.160 didn't get some

00:45:29.220 kind of a benefit.

00:45:30.520 Anyway, if we

00:45:31.640 have 632

00:45:32.500 and, I think,

00:45:33.960 32 distinct

00:45:35.880 bands in Canada

00:45:37.060 and over 50

00:45:41.380 languages,

00:45:42.720 if this is going

00:45:44.960 to lead the

00:45:45.860 country,

00:45:46.940 then we are

00:45:48.020 definitely going

00:45:48.760 to be

00:45:49.120 balkanized.

00:45:52.520 And I don't

00:45:53.400 want to gloss

00:45:53.840 over the fact

00:45:54.800 that there

00:45:55.760 were problems

00:45:56.920 with residential

00:45:58.320 schools.

00:45:58.980 Some people

00:45:59.620 did some

00:46:00.480 terrible things,

00:46:01.900 but I don't

00:46:02.500 believe in

00:46:03.000 collective guilt.

00:46:04.220 If there are

00:46:05.280 people who

00:46:06.440 must be held

00:46:07.420 responsible,

00:46:08.520 even posthumously,

00:46:09.980 let's do that.

00:46:11.400 But we can't

00:46:12.400 do that without

00:46:13.080 a real

00:46:13.920 fulsome

00:46:14.720 examination of

00:46:16.200 what really

00:46:17.180 happened at

00:46:18.780 these residential

00:46:19.580 schools.

00:46:20.400 And we've

00:46:20.860 never done

00:46:21.360 that.

00:46:22.040 And the

00:46:22.580 resistance is

00:46:23.320 not coming

00:46:23.880 from outside,

00:46:25.740 it's coming

00:46:26.320 from within.

00:46:27.700 And I'm very

00:46:28.960 curious as to

00:46:29.860 why that might

00:46:30.440 be.

00:46:30.760 For example,

00:46:31.380 at the Kamloops

00:46:32.260 Indian Residential

00:46:33.200 School, there

00:46:34.280 has been no

00:46:35.160 excavation there.

00:46:36.500 And they're

00:46:36.900 telling me this

00:46:37.520 is the site of

00:46:38.360 a major genocide.

00:46:39.300 If that's a

00:46:41.200 crime scene, I

00:46:43.160 want it

00:46:43.680 investigated, and

00:46:45.280 I want the

00:46:45.720 people responsible

00:46:46.580 to be named

00:46:47.620 for eternity.

00:46:50.380 But we're not

00:46:51.140 doing that.

00:46:52.020 And to say that

00:46:52.860 there are no

00:46:53.320 organizations capable

00:46:54.540 of doing the

00:46:55.120 heavy lifting

00:46:55.640 there, you know

00:46:56.180 what?

00:46:56.480 The United

00:46:56.980 Nations, for

00:46:58.080 all of its

00:46:58.540 flaws, does a

00:46:59.240 pretty good job

00:46:59.800 investigating

00:47:00.360 genocide.

00:47:01.800 And why

00:47:02.860 haven't they

00:47:03.360 been called

00:47:03.800 in?

00:47:03.980 Why hasn't

00:47:04.460 anybody been

00:47:05.140 called in to

00:47:06.020 deal with

00:47:06.420 this?

00:47:07.460 Well, actually,

00:47:08.300 Francisco, no,

00:47:12.380 Jose Francisco

00:47:13.380 Calice, who

00:47:15.640 is the UN

00:47:16.980 Special

00:47:18.420 Rapporteur on

00:47:19.640 Indigenous

00:47:20.180 Human Rights,

00:47:21.560 he has been

00:47:22.400 here, he has

00:47:23.300 been investigating

00:47:24.580 human rights

00:47:26.700 violations, which

00:47:28.480 would be

00:47:28.960 fundamental to

00:47:30.620 the future

00:47:32.700 investigation that

00:47:33.920 may happen,

00:47:34.480 because China

00:47:35.300 has accused

00:47:36.740 Canada of

00:47:37.480 genocide.

00:47:38.980 So that

00:47:40.300 should trigger

00:47:41.360 a UN

00:47:41.980 investigation.

00:47:43.500 But, you

00:47:43.940 know, my

00:47:44.300 problem with

00:47:44.880 that is that

00:47:45.700 it was a

00:47:46.740 group of

00:47:47.340 terror bloc

00:47:48.840 countries, and

00:47:50.280 Terry Glavin is

00:47:51.260 the person who

00:47:51.880 brought this to

00:47:52.840 everyone's

00:47:53.280 attention.

00:47:54.200 The charge was

00:47:55.120 made the day

00:47:55.840 after UNDRIP

00:47:57.020 was received

00:47:58.860 royal assent in

00:48:00.160 Canada, which

00:48:00.980 to me is

00:48:01.740 rather suspicious,

00:48:03.260 and about three

00:48:03.880 weeks after the

00:48:04.700 Kamloops discovery

00:48:06.180 hit the news.

00:48:07.000 and, you

00:48:12.280 know, it's

00:48:13.180 problematic if

00:48:14.740 you have a

00:48:17.100 nation that

00:48:18.280 actually had a

00:48:20.360 real genocide

00:48:21.080 where they

00:48:22.060 caused the

00:48:24.340 death of

00:48:25.280 about 40

00:48:26.360 million of

00:48:27.040 their own

00:48:27.440 people under

00:48:28.920 Mao in the

00:48:31.020 Great Leap

00:48:31.520 forward by

00:48:32.920 starvation, by

00:48:34.320 famine.

00:48:34.740 It's

00:48:35.520 problematic if

00:48:36.660 that's the

00:48:37.160 accuser of

00:48:37.920 Canada of

00:48:39.600 genocide.

00:48:41.780 So, you

00:48:43.480 know, I

00:48:43.680 think it's a

00:48:44.120 very complicated

00:48:44.800 issue, and

00:48:45.540 our MPs in

00:48:47.240 the House of

00:48:47.780 Commons have

00:48:48.420 complicated it

00:48:49.260 further, because

00:48:50.340 last fall on

00:48:51.400 October 27th,

00:48:52.760 they all voted

00:48:54.120 unanimously that

00:48:56.200 Indian residential

00:48:57.220 schools were an

00:48:58.100 act of genocide.

00:48:59.820 There was no

00:49:00.560 debate, nothing.

00:49:01.840 They just passed

00:49:02.620 it in like two

00:49:03.320 minutes.

00:49:04.660 So, you

00:49:06.880 know, there's

00:49:07.260 no evidence for

00:49:08.220 it, but we've

00:49:08.960 accused ourselves,

00:49:10.880 and it's going to

00:49:12.580 be pretty hard to

00:49:13.440 backtrack on that

00:49:14.400 one, I think.

00:49:16.140 Yeah, and we've

00:49:16.920 got China, who is

00:49:18.500 actively engaging

00:49:19.420 in a real

00:49:19.940 genocide against

00:49:21.020 Muslim Uyghurs and

00:49:22.620 Christians,

00:49:23.780 accusing us of

00:49:26.140 genocide, because

00:49:26.920 we've accused

00:49:27.620 ourselves of

00:49:28.300 genocide.

00:49:28.620 we can't say the

00:49:29.720 Chinese are wrong

00:49:30.440 about us, because

00:49:31.540 they voted in the

00:49:33.680 House of Commons.

00:49:35.360 Michelle, before I

00:49:37.280 let you go, because

00:49:38.180 you've been very

00:49:38.920 generous with your

00:49:39.540 time, as always,

00:49:41.020 you've started your

00:49:42.160 own sub-stack, and

00:49:43.420 I want to give you a

00:49:44.840 chance to promote

00:49:45.400 it, because it does

00:49:48.280 something that I think

00:49:49.020 is so necessary in

00:49:50.400 all of these debates,

00:49:51.680 and it's hopeful.

00:49:54.580 We're so inundated

00:49:55.800 with doom and gloom

00:49:56.660 when it comes to

00:49:57.220 climate change, or

00:49:57.960 COVID, or the next

00:49:58.780 pandemic, or how

00:49:59.920 apparently we're a

00:50:00.860 genocidal state, we're

00:50:01.760 the worst people on

00:50:02.620 the face of the

00:50:03.160 earth, according to

00:50:03.780 China, your sub-stack

00:50:05.360 does the opposite.

00:50:07.540 Well, I call it the

00:50:09.220 climate of hope, so I

00:50:11.040 basically am really

00:50:13.080 heartbroken over what's

00:50:14.480 happened with our young

00:50:15.340 people, especially, but

00:50:16.520 with many other people

00:50:17.560 who feel this, you

00:50:18.980 know, dark cloud over

00:50:19.880 their head all the

00:50:20.560 time, whenever there's

00:50:22.000 a disaster, like the

00:50:24.020 wildfires, or whatever,

00:50:25.180 it's always amped up

00:50:26.240 into, you know, climate

00:50:27.300 change, and this is the

00:50:28.340 new normal, it's always

00:50:29.520 going to be like this,

00:50:30.400 you're always going to

00:50:31.060 be running from wildfire,

00:50:32.560 and that's just not

00:50:34.920 true, so I'm going to

00:50:36.320 try and post some, you

00:50:38.120 know, informative items,

00:50:40.520 something on the lighter

00:50:41.980 side, and just try and

00:50:44.960 help people climb down

00:50:46.520 from that tree of fear,

00:50:49.080 you know, a lot of

00:50:50.440 people are like kittens

00:50:51.360 up a tree, where they're

00:50:52.520 terrified, and they're

00:50:53.400 stuck there, so I want to

00:50:55.740 try and tempt them to

00:50:56.760 come down the tree, and

00:50:58.640 you know, have a nice

00:50:59.960 warm bowl of milk, and

00:51:01.400 some crunchies, and

00:51:02.200 curl up, and feel safe

00:51:03.400 and comfy, so that's my

00:51:05.120 goal, so I just started

00:51:06.900 it, so there's not much

00:51:07.860 posted there yet, but

00:51:09.020 thank you.

00:51:09.820 You know, I think it's

00:51:10.280 much needed, I think it's

00:51:11.680 much needed, though, you

00:51:12.640 know, when you flip on the

00:51:13.820 TV, or, you know, your

00:51:16.180 Twitter account, even, and

00:51:17.260 it's just nonsense, there's

00:51:19.320 nothing climate change

00:51:20.180 can't do to kill you,

00:51:21.380 apparently, if you get all

00:51:23.340 your news from the

00:51:24.020 mainstream media, and

00:51:25.320 it's just so outrageous,

00:51:26.380 you know, it's like, is

00:51:27.320 climate change giving you

00:51:28.320 an earache, is climate

00:51:29.680 change making the ticks

00:51:30.720 bite you, and I wish I

00:51:31.600 were making up the

00:51:32.680 things I just said, but

00:51:33.620 those are recent articles

00:51:34.800 that I've read, is

00:51:35.880 climate change making

00:51:36.740 you fat, is climate

00:51:37.900 change giving you heart

00:51:38.860 disease, I mean, it's

00:51:40.540 non-stop.

00:51:42.100 And the person to

00:51:43.180 follow for all these

00:51:44.400 ridiculous headlines is

00:51:46.320 Dawn TJ90, D-A-W-N-T-J-90,

00:51:50.180 on Twitter, because she's

00:51:52.300 got a fantastic gallery

00:51:53.740 of memes, where she's

00:51:55.400 just stuck together all

00:51:56.400 these different headlines

00:51:57.420 that are conflicting and

00:51:58.980 ridiculous, and, you

00:52:01.000 know, that, if you read a

00:52:02.580 few of those, it completely

00:52:04.360 ends your climate fear

00:52:06.320 right there.

00:52:10.480 And, again, before I let

00:52:12.240 you go, let people know

00:52:13.180 how they can support

00:52:14.180 Friends of Science, because

00:52:15.480 you are just this little,

00:52:16.740 tiny, scarcely funded

00:52:19.500 group up against the

00:52:20.960 deep pockets of foreign

00:52:22.440 funded environmentalists

00:52:24.040 and the United Nations

00:52:25.720 and the World Economic

00:52:26.720 Forum, and you're trying

00:52:27.720 to cut through the

00:52:28.260 garbage to advocate for

00:52:32.260 more reasonable policies

00:52:33.680 and sensible debate on

00:52:35.280 these issues.

00:52:37.280 Well, you can go online

00:52:39.140 to friendsofscience.org.

00:52:42.960 You can join us, become a

00:52:44.940 member, you can donate, or

00:52:46.480 you can just send a

00:52:47.600 donation to, by e-transfer

00:52:49.740 to contact at

00:52:51.360 friendsofscience.org.

00:52:53.160 We're entering our 21st

00:52:54.820 year of operation, so

00:52:56.080 $21 would be a nice

00:52:58.060 birthday present.

00:52:59.380 I did want to mention we

00:53:00.680 are going to have a live

00:53:01.700 event in the fall, so

00:53:03.520 it's called Break Free

00:53:04.880 from Climate Tyranny, and

00:53:07.020 you can see that on our

00:53:08.820 main page on our website,

00:53:10.460 and there's also an event

00:53:11.640 page, so we're doing

00:53:12.560 early bird ticketing right

00:53:13.780 now for that, so

00:53:14.840 have a look at it.

00:53:20.640 Very exciting.

00:53:21.640 Those events, your live

00:53:23.040 events, are great, and the

00:53:24.920 food is great, and the

00:53:25.800 conversation is great, and

00:53:26.720 the speakers are always

00:53:27.420 really excellent, and it's

00:53:28.800 just good to get back out

00:53:29.920 in person after three years

00:53:32.160 of no events whatsoever.

00:53:34.680 Great.

00:53:38.700 Michelle, thanks so much

00:53:39.720 for coming on the show.

00:53:40.500 We'll have you back on

00:53:42.200 again very, very soon.

00:53:44.760 Thank you, Sheila.

00:53:45.800 Have a good day, everyone,

00:53:47.200 and don't let the climate

00:53:49.100 fear get you down.

00:53:50.820 There's hope.

00:53:51.500 Well, friends, we've come to

00:53:59.980 the portion of the show where

00:54:01.280 we invite your viewer

00:54:02.260 feedback.

00:54:03.020 It's why I give out my

00:54:03.920 email address right now.

00:54:05.220 It's Sheila at

00:54:05.980 rebelnews.com.

00:54:07.620 Put gun show letters in the

00:54:09.060 subject line, so I know that

00:54:10.500 your feedback is not just

00:54:12.900 generalized hate mail, but

00:54:15.700 specifically to the show that

00:54:18.720 I'm doing, and last week's

00:54:21.180 letter comes to me by way of

00:54:23.940 somebody named Micah, and

00:54:26.260 Micah writes, hi, Sheila, big

00:54:28.220 fan of your show here.

00:54:29.220 Keep up the excellent work.

00:54:30.440 I definitely will, as long as

00:54:32.920 Ezra will have me.

00:54:34.560 I have an idea for a show or

00:54:36.120 perhaps a series of shows,

00:54:37.740 because the subject matter

00:54:39.660 deals with Atlantic Canada.

00:54:42.420 It may not be your wheelhouse

00:54:44.620 necessarily, but maybe it would

00:54:46.560 be of interest to one of

00:54:48.420 Rebels' Eastern-based

00:54:49.840 journalists.

00:54:50.540 We don't have a ton of

00:54:51.600 Eastern-based journalists, but

00:54:53.900 I have a strong interest in

00:54:56.160 Eastern Canada just because of

00:54:57.860 where I live, and you would

00:54:58.820 think, why would an Albertan

00:54:59.860 care about what's happening in

00:55:00.920 Eastern Canada?

00:55:01.540 But we have so many of you

00:55:02.560 Easterners here that at my

00:55:04.140 little small-town grocery

00:55:05.240 store in Fort Saskatchewan, we

00:55:07.780 have an aisle, our ethnic food

00:55:10.600 aisle is actually maritime food.

00:55:12.840 So, like, we have your weird

00:55:15.500 brands of crush and the big

00:55:17.320 logs of bologna and salted

00:55:19.600 fish and all those things that

00:55:21.280 make you people feel at home

00:55:23.960 here.

00:55:24.540 And so we're glad to have you

00:55:25.440 in, you know, our pubs are

00:55:26.580 often Atlantic kitchen-style

00:55:30.520 pubs.

00:55:31.180 Again, because there are just so

00:55:32.440 many of you here.

00:55:33.960 And, you know, as they say,

00:55:36.840 Fort McMurray is the largest town

00:55:38.820 in Newfoundland.

00:55:39.940 So, a lot of you guys here,

00:55:41.460 and I'm very interested in what

00:55:43.060 happens there, but also how,

00:55:46.380 you know, sort of the attacks on

00:55:48.040 your industry here led you, or

00:55:50.840 the attacks on your industry

00:55:52.160 there led you here, and then now

00:55:54.840 they're attacking our industry

00:55:55.780 here.

00:55:56.160 So, things to consider.

00:55:58.480 I'm currently on vacation in

00:55:59.780 Newfoundland.

00:56:00.260 Oh, lucky.

00:56:02.040 It seems like almost everyone I

00:56:03.520 talk to here has their own

00:56:04.640 version of how and why the

00:56:06.100 fisheries were shut down.

00:56:07.240 Same thing with certain energy

00:56:09.500 projects.

00:56:10.940 Hmm.

00:56:12.220 Maybe this has been done before,

00:56:14.200 but I think it would be

00:56:14.880 interesting to see a post-mortem

00:56:16.220 play-by-play on all the events

00:56:18.180 and political moves that led to

00:56:19.460 the demise of the key industries

00:56:21.280 in this province.

00:56:22.580 Thank you for your time and for

00:56:23.880 the work that you and the entire

00:56:25.200 Rebel team do every day.

00:56:26.840 Warm regards.

00:56:28.000 Micah.

00:56:28.440 You know, Micah, that's a very

00:56:31.120 interesting proposition.

00:56:32.760 Something I would seriously

00:56:33.820 consider because I can see how

00:56:38.020 those sort of government

00:56:43.020 overreach, government control

00:56:44.380 on certain key industries there

00:56:46.260 cause problems in those

00:56:48.400 industries and then drove

00:56:50.040 people, like I said, out to the

00:56:52.040 West, where now government

00:56:54.040 control is doing the same things

00:56:55.440 to the new industries, which

00:56:56.920 employ those fun-loving

00:56:59.500 Easterners.

00:57:00.040 And, yeah, there's a lot of

00:57:05.140 different versions of the story.

00:57:06.920 And I think there will always be a

00:57:08.100 lot of different versions to

00:57:09.000 every story.

00:57:09.760 You know, how did Alberta end up

00:57:12.800 basically underwater in the 1980s

00:57:15.740 thanks to Trudeau?

00:57:16.460 There are a lot of different

00:57:17.380 moving parts there.

00:57:20.600 But, you know, very interesting.

00:57:23.100 And I think a very big part of

00:57:26.040 Canadian history that is often

00:57:27.340 overlooked just by

00:57:30.720 the nature of

00:57:32.180 demographics so that there are

00:57:34.380 not a lot of people

00:57:35.380 on the East Coast in some of those

00:57:37.100 communities that ended up just

00:57:38.680 basically destroyed

00:57:40.020 by the collapse of the fishery

00:57:41.760 the way that we're seeing

00:57:42.540 communities out here in the West

00:57:43.760 destroyed by

00:57:45.700 the government-mandated collapse

00:57:47.820 in the coal industry.

00:57:51.160 But also just because they're so far

00:57:52.920 away.

00:57:53.740 They're just so darn far away

00:57:55.600 that, not to say that we forget

00:57:57.180 that they exist.

00:57:57.840 It's hard to forget they exist

00:57:59.100 when you're in Alberta and there's

00:58:00.960 so many Easterners here.

00:58:02.480 But you're just far away.

00:58:05.200 It's like talking about a town in

00:58:07.640 the far north.

00:58:09.120 You don't often do that just

00:58:10.240 because it's so far away from

00:58:12.400 the center of the universe,

00:58:14.700 Toronto.

00:58:16.120 So, yes, thank you for the idea.

00:58:17.480 And I will seriously consider it

00:58:19.260 when I'm not doing a million other

00:58:21.720 projects at the company.

00:58:22.780 But there's always time for one

00:58:23.860 more isn't there.

00:58:25.200 Well, everybody, that's the show

00:58:26.280 for tonight.

00:58:26.720 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:58:27.940 I'll see everybody back here

00:58:28.900 in the same time.

00:58:29.740 Well, it might not be in the same

00:58:31.020 place.

00:58:31.320 I'm touring the documentary this

00:58:32.780 week.

00:58:33.480 But from wherever I'm filming,

00:58:36.300 don't let the government tell you

00:58:37.420 that you've had too much to think.

00:58:53.860 And then after the time,

00:59:09.680 thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - July 05, 2023

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ What happens when our banks become infested with climate hysteria？

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