SHEILA GUNN REID： Who exactly were the Trudeau liberals talking to before they decided to ban all hunting rifles in Canada？
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Just who exactly were the Trudeau Liberals talking to before they decided to ban basically all the hunting rifles in Canada? It's January 6th, 2023, and it's time to ask the question: Who were they talking to?
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Oh, hey guys, it's me, Sheila Gunn-Reed. I'm filling in today again for The Big Boss, Ezra Levant.
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Today we're talking about Justin Trudeau's gun grab and how they won't tell us who exactly they talked to
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before they turned the single largest comprehensive firearms prohibition in this country, the handgun ban,
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into the next single largest comprehensive firearms ban in this country, the hunting gun ban.
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They won't tell us who they're talking to. And that's because you know they were talking to the
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crazy people. And then after that, Tracy Wilson from the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights
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joins us to talk about, of course, Justin Trudeau's single largest gun ban in Canadian history. Now,
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Just who exactly were the Trudeau Liberals talking to before they decided to ban basically all the
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hunting rifles in Canada? It's January 6th, 2023. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, but you're watching the Ezra
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What will you do when provinces like in Alberta and Saskatchewan, as they've signaled, say they're
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not going to enforce your gun laws? It's not that they're going to direct police, but they're going
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to tell prosecutors, don't go after people with these banned weapons, to at least send a message
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to people that this is not a priority for their provinces. What will be your response?
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They've said that they might do it, yes. But the reality is Canadians are overwhelmingly
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worried about gun violence, want to see stronger gun control. We have a mandate to do exactly that,
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and that's what we've done. We've banned assault-style weapons. We've frozen the market on handguns,
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and now we're ensuring that there is a definition going forward so assault-style weapons remain banned.
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Now, there's been a lot of misinformation and disinformation around it, and I'll be entirely honest.
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There are some guns out there, not many, but some, that hunters are now using for hunting that are
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overpowered or have characteristics that make them assault-style weapons, and the definition
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will probably catch those. And there are some people who hunt with a gun that is considered
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an assault-style weapon who will have to change weapons on that, and will have a buyback for that
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weapon because they're not criminals. But we are changing the definition to make sure that guns designed
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to kill the largest number of people as quickly as possible have no place in this country.
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Well, I think everyone, you've been very criticized by everybody under the sun. The NDP, First Nations,
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Conservatives, other groups. So that indicates to me that it's not right, the way it is now.
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It indicates to me that it's a hard thing to do, to move forward on gun control in a country where
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the gun lobby holds a lot of sway in a lot of places. The Conservative Party is moving hard,
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and they have successfully weaponized a pitting of urban Canadians against rural Canadians.
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But that's not our focus. Our focus is on making sure that the guns that have no place in Canada,
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because they're assault-style weapons, are continued to be banned. But Conservatives have been very,
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very clear on it. They want to reverse our ban on assault-style weapons. I think most Canadians
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actually are in line with wanting to make sure that assault-style weapons stay banned.
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I think it's interesting that you think the Conservatives are pitting people against each
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other because they would say the same about you, and particularly that you are, as they may be,
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also entrenching division between rural and urban voters.
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Trudeau seems to be rolling from one authoritarian reflex to the next, isn't he? He started off hot in
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2022 with the lockdown of Canadians and the snatching of our civil liberties, including those to travel
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and associate during his pandemic measures. Trudeau tracked where we went and who we were with using
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data provided to the Public Health Agency of Canada, data that was stolen from us by our own
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cell phone providers. Trudeau made mandatory a vaccination that people didn't want, and incidentally,
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doesn't work just for people to be able to go to work. Trudeau then stood on the graves of people
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murdered by a madman with an illegal cache of weapons in Nova Scotia to systematically ban the
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lawfully acquired firearms of law-abiding Canadians with his 1500 model gun ban in May 2020. And then,
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of course, there was the invocation of the wartime law of the Emergencies Act in early 2022. He used it to
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end the peaceful anti-regime protests taking place in the nation's capital. Trudeau suspended the civil
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liberties of all Canadians to protest. He seized the bank accounts of protest organizers and their
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supporters, and then he arrested the leadership. Do their relationships with anyone involved in the
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illegal blockades and report to the RCMP or CSIS. As of today, a bank or other financial service provider
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will be able to immediately freeze or suspend an account without a court order. In doing so,
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they will be protected against civil liability for actions taken in good faith. Federal government
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institutions will have a new broad authority to share relevant information with banks and other
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financial service providers. And building on that authoritarian reflex, Trudeau decided to bring in
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even more firearms legislation, banning the sale and transfer of handguns, which are the most regulated
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form of firearm in this country. I'm proud to announce that our government has decided to ban the
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importation of handguns. Through a regulatory mechanism enacted by my colleague, Minister Joly,
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nearly all individuals and businesses in Canada will be banned from importing handguns on a go forward.
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Given that nearly all our handguns are imported, this means that we're bringing our national handgun freeze
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into effect even sooner. Now, the measures will take effect on August 19, as I understand it, and Minister
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Joly will have more to say. People like me have to hold a special license and submit to special screening
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and can only use that firearm in a designated pre-approved location. All this, Trudeau said,
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would stop crime in downtown Toronto committed by gangsters using illegally trafficked guns. And then,
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in the last minute, an amendment was proposed by Liberal MP Paul Chiang to that handgun ban,
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C21, that made it a ban on hunting and our hunting heritage in this country. The Liberals snuck in an
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amendment to C21 that bans semi-automatic centerfire rifles and shotguns capable of holding a five-round
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magazine. It ostensibly outlaws millions of rifles and shotguns used for hunting in this country.
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A man who was convicted of second-degree murder had been released early and is now re-arrested for
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51 counts of trafficking firearms. Why won't they go after this criminal and others like him
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instead of targeting Grandpa Joe's hunting rifle in Cape Breton?
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Mr. Speaker, Canadians are united around the need to see our communities safer. And
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most Canadians understand that that means eliminating the guns that are most dangerous. Those guns are
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designed to kill the largest number of people in the shortest amount of time. That's why two years
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ago we moved forward with a ban on assault-style weapons. But we also know that we need to ensure
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that that ban stays in place. And that's why we're moving forward with a definition to define
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assault-style weapons. And if you, like me, looked in your gun cabinet and said,
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hold up here, he said it wasn't a hunting ban but my hunting guns are banned, Trudeau accused you
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of misinformation. Take a look. Gun control, in French, asking if we were going to revoke or
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pull back at C21. The answer is no. C21 is part of our commitment to Canadians to move forward on
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strengthening gun control in smart, responsible ways. We have frozen the market on handguns. It's
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now impossible to buy or sell a handgun in this country. We've moved forward on a ban on assault
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style weapon that's been in place for two years. And we're making sure with C21 that assault weapons
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will never be legal again in this country. The issue that's come up for a lot of people, and I suspect
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Eric who sent in the question, is that there's a lot of misinformation and disinformation from the
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conservative party and from the gun lobby about us going after hunting rifles and shotguns. The
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reality is we're focused on banning the most dangerous weapons, those assault style weapons,
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that were designed to kill the largest number of people as quickly and efficiently as possible.
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But was it misinformation? It isn't, if you ask the experts. Here's the Canadian Coalition for
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the single largest gun ban in Canadian history, the hunting gun ban, which happened again at the
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last minute in an amendment to the previous single largest gun ban in Canadian history,
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the handgun ban. Look at this. Over the last seven years, crime and violence has skyrocketed
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under the Liberal NDP government, all while the Liberals increased gun control, all licensed gun owners,
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and while they were at it, made life the easiest it's ever been on criminals. The Liberals have
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rolled out three gun bans in three years, while gang-related homicide has shot up 92 percent,
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basically doubled, along with a 32 percent rise in violent crime, all since the Liberals took office.
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Those same non-gun-owning Canadians need to ask what in the world is going on.
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The Liberals spent the first three years of their majority government pontificating about how
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government has no business classifying firearms and that it should be left to the experts at the
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RCMP lab. Then they engaged in precisely that behaviour at a level we've never seen before in
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the history of our country, and take a good hard look at the mess that they've created. On top of that,
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they've yet again circumvented democracy and the usual parliamentary process by sneaking in Amendment
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G4 into C21, this late in the committee stage. After two votes in the House of Commons, after
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deliberation at SECU, after all the expert witnesses testified, and after hearing from Indigenous leaders,
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nobody got to speak to this sweeping hunting gun ban amendment. This is a mockery of our legislative
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system and does nothing for public safety. Canada is a far more dangerous place to live,
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and we are more divided than ever. The Liberals and their enablers, the NDP and of course the Bloc,
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can credit themselves for this massive failure at keeping Canadians safe. And I will mention,
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not only making Canadians far less safe than ever in a modern Canada and wasting billions in tax
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resources, this coalition feels it virtuous to lay this disaster at the feet of licensed gun owners
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who have, who are productive, law-abiding contributors to Canadian society since long
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before Confederation. So I would ask, what exactly have we done to deserve this? And how is this going
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to make Canada better? I'd ask all Canadians to dedicate a few minutes today to think about this.
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Now I'm pretty sure Justin Trudeau did not consult with the experts like the Canadian Coalition for
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Firearms Rights before he decided to arbitrarily ban almost every single hunting gun in this entire
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country with the exception of basically a handful of duck shotguns. I know Trudeau did not talk to the
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National Firearms Association either. I know he didn't talk to the Canadian Shooting Sports Association
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either. And I know based on the press release put out by the Fur Institute of Canada that Justin Trudeau
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didn't talk to them either before he outlawed the tools of their trade. Indigenous groups are fuming
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mad. And now the NDP are mad because the Indigenous groups that they represent are mad. It's a mess.
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So who exactly did Justin Trudeau consult with before he snuck in a last-minute amendment to turn
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an already terrible law which scapegoats to law-abiding while making it easier to be a bad
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guy into some Frankenstein monster of a law that tramples on property rights and throws Canadian
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heritage right into the garbage? Somebody joked on Twitter once and I wish I could remember who it was
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because I would love to give them credit. But imagine if a space alien who had never met a human
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being or had never seen a car was suddenly writing the rules of the road. That's how it feels to be a
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firearms owner in Canada. It's like people who have never used a firearm or who have never jumped through
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all the hoops to own a firearm or ever even examined the existing firearms laws or even had a basic
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passing familiarity with ballistics. We're writing the firearms laws or at least they're the people
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being consulted on the laws. I was curious, and I think you are too, what sort of feminist and
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feminist ally groups have these people been talking to? Because they have not been talking to gun owners
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or the people who use guns to, well, survive or to work. So I filed for access to information to get that
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data. I do this all through your generous crowdfunded donations at rebelinvestigates.com.
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We filed with Public Safety Canada asking them for the list of names that they consulted with
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on Bill C-21. You think it would be easy for them to provide just the list of names they consulted with
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on their own legislation? You know, they have to have contact information for these people, right?
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Because they contacted them to talk to them. But just the other day, I got back a letter saying that
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the government is not going to provide that information to me until October of 2023. They
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took a 10-month extension. Your door might be kicked in by the RCMP before you ever know who inspired the
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law that allowed for any of it. Now, normally, I try to get information two different ways because
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sometimes I can catch them up by asking the same question just a little differently,
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a little more creatively. They won't give me the list of names till October. Fine. So I thought maybe
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I could compile the list of names myself by asking for all the government's communications about Bill C-21
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and the crazy amendment that took a handgun ban, which was already bad, and turned it into a
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handgun ban plus a hunting ban. I thought I could get the names of the people they were consulting
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with by compiling them from the text messages and briefing notes and memos and emails. I thought I
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could get the names from the back and forth, right? However, the government is smartening up. I think
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they saw right through me because they're not going to give me any of that information until at least
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August 3rd, 2023. And even this, even the delays don't make sense because they want me to believe
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they can't give me a simple list until October, but they can give me all the communications with
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all the people they talk to two months sooner. These people aren't even good at lying. The problem is
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there's no consequence for any of this nonsense. And even though the NDP pretend to be mad about these
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sweeping changes that will hurt their constituents in Northern Ontario and in Northern Quebec, the NDP
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will indeed continue to prop the Liberals up and go along with this legislation because for the NDP,
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I think they just want to be listened to by the Liberals and they don't really care what their own
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voters think. Joining me now after the break is one of those very experts that Justin Trudeau
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didn't bother to talk to. My friend Tracy Wilson from the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights. Hang tight.
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So the federal government is blocking us from knowing who they consulted with on Bill C-21.
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But we definitely know it wasn't the experts. We know it was activist groups, although they won't
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identify them. Now, we want to talk to the experts. That's why we're bringing on our friends from the
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CCFR. Joining me now is Tracy Wilson to discuss the misinformation she's been accused of spreading
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about Justin Trudeau's latest comprehensive gun ban. I think the largest in Canadian history.
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Over the last seven years, crime and violence has skyrocketed under the Liberal NDP government,
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all while the Liberals increased gun control on licensed gun owners, and while they were at it,
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made life the easiest it's ever been on criminals. The Liberals have rolled out three gun bans in three
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years, while gang-related homicide has shot up 92%, basically doubled, along with a 32% rise in
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violent crime, all since the Liberals took office. Those same non-gun-owning Canadians need to ask
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what in the world is going on. The Liberals spent the first three years of their majority government
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pontificating about how government has no business classifying firearms and that it should be left to
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the experts at the RCMP lab. Then they engaged in precisely that behaviour at a level we've never seen
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before in the history of our country. Justin Trudeau has repeatedly said that he is not banning hunting
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rifles. You're saying he's banning hunting rifles. I know he's banning my hunting rifles. So who's
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guilty of spreading misinformation here? Well, the government is obviously guilty of doing that
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exact thing. In fact, if you go all the way back to the May 2020 gun ban, there was AR-15s included in
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that, but a whole suite of other guns as well. I know my husband is a veteran. The guns he hunted
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with were banned way back then. So to be perfectly honest, they've been banning hunting rifles all
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along. This latest gun ban that was of course introduced as an amendment in the 11th hour to
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a piece of legislation that was supposed to be targeting handguns, of course, bans hunting rifles,
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or you wouldn't have First Nations groups, the NDP and everybody else opposing it, including law
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enforcement. So, yeah, the misinformation and disinformation is coming from the government
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and they can't even decide what they're doing, how they're going to do it or who are they going to do
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it to. You know, and let's talk about that because there are so many guns that are moving from
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unregistered. So the government has no idea where they are or who has them.
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Right. And they're moving completely to prohibit. The SKS is a great example of this.
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Low estimates have them pegged at 200,000 of them inside the country. I would suggest the
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numbers probably at least double that. Oh, yeah.
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And so how do they even go about enforcing this? Do they take the list of PAL and RPAL holders,
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give it to the RCMP and say, OK, well, start knocking on doors? How do how do they think
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that they're going to go about enforcing any of this? Well, it's impossible to enforce the man hours
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it would take to go door to door is literally impossible. We have a deficit as far as law
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enforcement personnel goes in this country. The military has a deficit. Both law enforcement,
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military, Canada Post. Everybody has told the government, including provinces and one territory,
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has told the government that they don't have the resources nor the interest in doing this.
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So you're right. It is completely impossible to enforce. The only thing they could do here,
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of course, is confiscate the approximately 90,000 AR-15s that were legally acquired here in Canada,
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because, of course, those are registered. And as we know, registration leads to confiscation
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100 percent of the time. It's the only purpose it serves. As far as everything else goes, they have no
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idea who has what. And if you think about it, we're in a country of over 10 million square kilometers.
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And we went from a gun ban that maybe had about a quarter of a million rifles to a gun ban that's
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going to encompass well over a million guns from hundreds of thousands of Canadians over a country
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as vast as ours. If they were to decide to go to people's houses and do searches, this would literally
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take well over 100 years to do. So I've said it right from the beginning. This entire thing is
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impossible. They may have a few people participate in some sort of they call it a buyback. I call it a
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compensated confiscation program. But even that doesn't even exist. We're going on three years of
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this gun ban. My AR-15s are still sitting here in the room next to me in my gun room, locked up,
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just like they have been for the last 20 years safely. And of course, blood isn't running in
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the streets. So they have no idea what they're doing, how they're going to do it. And I think
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at this point, they just throw a bone to the media every now and then to appease the anti-gun
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lobbies to make it look like they're still focused on this. But they're not.
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Now, we filed for access to information with the federal government. We wanted to know
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who in their right mind they were talking to before they brought in these amendments
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to Bill C-21. Now, we know, or I have a pretty good idea, and I think you do too,
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who exactly they were talking to, you know, before they decided to ban everything cool, cheap,
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and cheap to shoot in this country. I've got a pretty good idea. I wanted to see it in writing,
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and I wanted to see those communications. I know who they weren't talking to,
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and that was First Nations groups. I know they weren't talking to people like the Fur Institute
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of Canada who have come out and said, you have considered us experts on other legislation
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surrounding what we do. Why didn't you talk to us about this? Your handgun ban puts us in danger.
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Now your hunting rifle ban outlaws the humane execution of our industry.
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Were you guys consulted on this at all? Or did you try to show yourself into consultations,
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Yeah. Well, here's the thing is when C-21 was introduced, of course, it was a piece of
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legislation that focused primarily on banning handguns, or at least the sale of handguns,
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and of course, banned toy guns like airsoft. And there was a variety of other small measures
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within the bill that are not overly popular either. And then in the 11th hour, they introduced
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this amendment. And I got to tell you, even members of the Liberal Caucus had no idea this was coming.
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They were not briefed on it. They don't know about it. They've even started speaking out about it.
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So, yeah, I do believe the only people they've consulted were probably anti-gun lobby groups and maybe pollsters.
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And even then, they've shot themselves in the foot, so to speak, with this piece, because they've gone a step
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too far and they've proven themselves to be incapable of being trusted to properly classify what's legitimate and
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adequate for civilian use in Canada. And they use vague terminology around it, right? Like, that's why they say
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assault style weapons, because to define it, you would have to point out just how ridiculous it is to call a 410
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bird gun an assault style weapon, because that one of those was on the original list of 1500 banned models of
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firearms. Also, a 22, a Brazilian made 22 is on that list. And so single shots, old action. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, there is no definition. Assault style means nothing. And by definition, if something is, you know,
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blank style, it is not that thing which it is styled after. You know, if I go out and put a racing fin on
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my SUV, it's not, it's not, you know, a Daytona style car. You know, it's just a ridiculous,
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a ridiculous terminology. And if you look at how they've sort of evolved with that, they've gone
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from a saying assault weapons, which of course is, is inaccurate because those have been banned in
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Canada since 1977. Then they went with assault style. Then they have, you know, military grade
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assault style. And now Marco Mendicino, public safety minister has started saying AR-15 style.
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Like, they don't even know what they're talking about. And I think, you know, they did get a lot
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of political mileage out of some of the previous gun bans. And it's been a great wedge to divide and
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stigmatize Canadians, you know, create a big divide between urban and rural. And of course, force people
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who probably wouldn't normally support them anyways to, to, you know, out of the arena. But the problem is,
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now that they've gone this far with it, the majority of Canadians do support the legitimate
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use of firearms for hunting. It's literally part of our Canadian heritage and that's actually
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protected in parliament. So I, I don't think they're getting the mileage out of this that they thought
00:27:35.160
they would. And I, I don't want to go on too long, but I just want to know, please do.
00:27:39.400
Another thing I was talking to Rod about last night is, you know, people often say like the anti-gun
00:27:44.520
lobby groups, they'll tweet me and say, you know, Justin Trudeau's won three elections on gun control.
00:27:49.880
And I'm like, let's think about that for a minute. He, in 2019, he introduced C-71. That was the first
00:27:56.600
piece of liberal gun control, modern liberal gun control in this government. In 2019, he was reduced
00:28:03.160
to a weakened minority. We've had an election since then, and he didn't improve his standing.
00:28:09.880
So ever since he, you know, he's done C-71, he did the May 2020 gun ban. He did the handgun freeze.
00:28:17.720
He's got C-21, you know, the second iteration of it. And of course now the hunting gun ban.
00:28:22.840
Well, and I don't think that the gun control lobby exists in reality. I think they're in a very deep
00:28:33.960
bubble because the firearms community is much larger than these people think. We just don't
00:28:42.920
talk about it because when we talk about it, the government comes and takes our guns.
00:28:47.160
Like, we're pretty quiet about it. But you know, more people are registered PAL holders,
00:28:54.760
like who hold a PAL, then play organized hockey. Shooting sports are the national sports in this
00:29:01.160
country. And as you rightly point out, it is a part intrinsic to our heritage. I point this out all the
00:29:07.720
time. This country would not exist without brave men and guns coming here to harvest animals. And so
00:29:16.920
now Justin Trudeau, in his version of toppling a statue, because you don't like, it doesn't pass the
00:29:23.160
2023 litmus test of wokeism. He's doing the same thing with firearms, but they are intrinsically part
00:29:29.400
of our culture. If you step a little bit outside of downtown Toronto.
00:29:33.240
Yeah, well, and it's funny, there's a video that's, you know, been floating around social
00:29:38.040
media of Justin Trudeau, you know, before he was Prime Minister on the steps of Parliament Hill,
00:29:43.000
talking to some young people about guns and hunting. And and he admits fully in that video
00:29:48.760
that it is absolutely part of our heritage. And it is here in here is that the first step towards
00:29:54.440
registering your guns is is just the first step towards taking away guns from everyone.
00:29:59.400
That's never going to happen. Because here in Canada, we have a culture that has that has grown
00:30:03.720
up with guns and that respects the need to to go out into the wilderness and shoot things from time
00:30:08.040
to time. I mean, you look at we have an Olympic shooting team. It's it's literally an Olympic sport.
00:30:13.800
He's freezing handguns, which are an Olympic sport, predominantly with female athletes,
00:30:20.920
in at least in Canada, you know, and it's like, I don't know, at the same time, regardless of how
00:30:27.480
you feel about me having rifles, shotguns, handguns, AR-15s, you know, I've owned them for decades
00:30:34.760
safely and without issue. But regardless how you feel about that, at some point, you have to look
00:30:40.200
at the fact that we've got a 92 percent increase in gang violence, an overall violence increase across
00:30:47.400
the country of 33 percent. This this is bad. It's bad for Canada. It's bad for unity. It's bad for
00:30:53.960
public safety. It's bad for families. And you've got a government floundering around trying to pick
00:30:59.880
and choose guns off a list to ban. And criminals are laughing at them. And yeah, there is a cost
00:31:06.680
to their failure to focus on actual crime and violence. And it can be measured in human lives.
00:31:12.120
And it is it is happening. This is why outside of Marco Mendicino, I have a lot of ire reserved for
00:31:21.080
Bill Blair, because Bill Blair was the top cop in Toronto who oversaw an explosion of gang violence,
00:31:28.760
by the way. And so he absolutely knows where these guns are coming from, how they're ending up in the
00:31:35.640
hands of criminals and who is using them. And in none of those instances are lawful Canadian firearms
00:31:42.120
owners involved in any of it. And yet he doesn't speak up. He's a good and loyal liberal soldier. And
00:31:48.440
he's happy to throw over two million Canadians under the bus instead of address a very real problem that
00:31:55.480
his government is overseeing. And I think it's because he doesn't want to examine the root causes. And I think they
00:32:01.480
start a lot with the federal government's border policies and their bail policies.
00:32:07.480
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, look at just what's happened recently in Haldeman County.
00:32:13.880
You've got a young OPP officer who lost his life going to to a call of a truck in trouble in the ditch. Right.
00:32:22.200
So he's going there with the intention of helping these people who have got themselves in the ditch. It's a big storm.
00:32:27.960
You know, there's accidents all over the place. And you've got a repeat violent offender out on bail.
00:32:34.920
You've got the police chiefs. You've got the OPP commissioner on TV saying this is crazy.
00:32:41.160
We've got to stop these soft on crime liberal policies and and focus on reducing actual crime
00:32:50.360
violence and gun smuggling. And then to see Marco Mendicino post pictures from the funeral of that officer.
00:32:56.920
I don't know. Like we are not the same. I used to think maybe there wasn't that there wasn't a huge
00:33:04.120
difference between, you know, the left and right in Canada. But there is like there is. And unfortunately,
00:33:10.120
I think with the liberal policies, that divide just gets wider and wider. But, you know, at the end of
00:33:17.400
the day, gun owners want to say for Canada, too, we are the safest demographic in this country. I want to see
00:33:23.960
and end to to violence and to crime and to repeat offenders getting back out into the streets and
00:33:29.800
hurting people. And, you know, the idea that this is the liberal answer to that is, you know,
00:33:36.360
dicking around fighting with gun owners. It's it's crazy, but it is a perfect example of the liberal
00:33:45.080
A hundred percent, Tracy. Now, you add the CCFR. You guys are always fighting. You're not just a
00:33:53.880
lobby group. You are advocates and you are willing to take the fight to the liberals. So tell people,
00:33:59.560
tell us, do you have something in store to fight back against this?
00:34:02.520
Yeah. So we actually the bad guys too much information, by the way.
00:34:06.840
Yeah. No, I we've got a few projects coming up that are just going to knock their socks off,
00:34:11.800
so to speak. But yeah, back in May of 2020, when the liberals first started their
00:34:18.280
litany of gun bans and their attacks against legal owners, we launched the largest federal
00:34:22.520
court action on behalf of Canadian gun owners in the history of the country. So this coming April,
00:34:27.960
we have an eight day hearing here in Ottawa at the federal court. Of course, a decision won't be
00:34:33.240
forthcoming at the end of that eight days. It takes a little bit of time. But so far,
00:34:37.400
the government has basically presented no information, no evidence. It's crazy. And they were actually
00:34:45.000
compelled to by Associate Chief Justice Jocelyn Gagne of the federal court. She compelled the government
00:34:50.840
to provide their evidence. And of course, they claimed cabinet privilege. So, you know, this is
00:34:56.440
the reason they need to ban guns from legal gun owners is so such a top level secret thing that
00:35:03.240
not only can average Canadians not know why this is happening, but the Associate Chief Justice of the
00:35:08.200
federal court, she just simply can't know. So when you've got, you know, one side refusing to provide
00:35:14.520
any evidence, anything at all. And then the other side, we've provided thousands of pages of documents,
00:35:20.920
we've provided affidavits, witness, cross-examination testimony, just everything under
00:35:27.720
the sun. So I don't know. I mean, I used to kind of wonder if it was futile to bother fighting it in
00:35:34.680
court. At the same time, accepting it is not an option. But it looks promising, to be perfectly honest.
00:35:43.720
And of course, ultimately, the real solution to the problem that Canadian gun owners face
00:35:48.840
is we need a political solution. We need a new government that will at least, you know, take
00:35:56.200
their their foot off the head of gun owners, and maybe focus on reducing crime violence and gun smuggling.
00:36:03.080
Tracy, how do people get involved with the CCFR? Because I'm a gun owner, you're fighting on behalf of
00:36:08.920
my rights, my property rights, my rights to be assumed that I am not a criminal by virtue of the
00:36:15.800
property I have in the gun cabinet in the room across the way. How do people get involved? Because it
00:36:21.240
isn't, look, I'm from Rebel News, we love a good lawsuit, especially against the federal government. And
00:36:26.840
it's not cheap. So how do people get involved? And how do they support you? And how do they get one of
00:36:30.600
those beautiful shorts that you're wearing? Yeah, thank you. This is brand new for our women's
00:36:35.720
program. So you can find us at firearm rights.ca or CCFR.ca. We're also on all the socials,
00:36:43.720
we've got a crazy good social media channel. And then of course, if you're looking for content,
00:36:48.760
we're on YouTube. We're all over the place. You can find stuff to buy on there. And of course,
00:36:55.640
you can also support that federal court challenge. We're about just breaking the $2 million investment,
00:37:02.840
as far as costs go in fighting the government. And of course, we haven't had our trial yet. So
00:37:08.680
it's incredibly expensive. They've got an unlimited amount of resources because they've got your tax
00:37:13.320
dollars with which to fight us with. So yeah, that's coming up. We can use all the support we can get.
00:37:21.080
And of course, we've got projects coming up in case of an election, some public awareness campaigns. So
00:37:28.280
yeah, the best place to find us is firearm rights.ca.
00:37:32.840
Tracy, I just want to thank you so much for taking the time to come on the show today and
00:37:36.280
for being such a strong and articulate advocate for people like me, people who've done nothing wrong,
00:37:41.960
except inherit their father's shotgun. It's been a pleasure. I hope to have you back on the show very,
00:37:48.520
very soon. Anytime at all. It's my absolute pleasure.
00:37:51.480
Thank you. Stay with us. Your letters to Ezra unceremoniously read by me up after the break.
00:38:10.440
Now, if you'd like to help us send a message to the Trudeau Liberals that these attacks on Canada's
00:38:14.920
law-abiding gun community must not stand, but also that they should be rolled back, please head on over
00:38:20.760
and sign our petition at handsoffourguns.ca. Now, this is the portion of the show where we sort of
00:38:26.600
throw things back to you. We care about what you think about the work that we're doing here at Rebel
00:38:30.680
News, and we want to take your temperature on it. So that's why we have this list beside me of places
00:38:37.880
where you can get in contact with us. But also, please don't hesitate to leave a comment wherever you
00:38:43.480
might find us on Rumble, on Odyssey, on YouTube. Today's letters are on my show from yesterday,
00:38:51.160
wherein I was also filling in for Ezra, and I spoke about how the NDP continue to prop up the Liberals,
00:39:00.120
and it's my concern that that is going to make the Liberals' censorship laws even more radical, and I think
00:39:07.240
they're going to do exactly what they did do already with the gun control legislation is sneak in
00:39:13.160
amendments at the last minute to make these laws even worse as a thank you to the NDP for keeping
00:39:21.320
them in power because the Liberals, I don't really actually think they have an ideology. I think their
00:39:26.840
only ideology is attaining power and then hanging on to it ruthlessly at all costs, no matter what it
00:39:34.120
does to Canadians. Now, too much for air, right? NDP served a purpose when they were a blue-collar
00:39:41.160
party. Going woke under Singh has made them irrelevant. People that dislike them the most are union workers
00:39:45.880
who built the party. I don't even think union workers who built the party are mad at them because I don't think
00:39:52.040
union workers actually built the modern NDP party at this point. I think union workers are forced through
00:39:59.400
mandatory union dues to support political ideologies that they disagree with, including the NDP
00:40:07.640
out here in Alberta. And I know you send me letters that when I host the show is Alberta-centric, but
00:40:12.680
that's where I'm from. And it's my experience that our blue-collar union workers out here are conservative.
00:40:18.920
That's just how it is. And our union workers out here, by and large, support oil and gas development,
00:40:26.760
not just because they are working in oil and gas sometimes, but also if they're in a construction
00:40:33.160
union or another blue-collar trades union, their industry rises and falls on the boom or bust of the oil
00:40:41.400
patch too. And so they are completely disconnected from the modern NDP party as we know it. I think the
00:40:49.160
modern NDP party is made up of career students, baristas, the small champagne socialist contingent,
00:40:59.240
Antifa and Antifa adjacent people, and just your blue-haired social justice activists and
00:41:06.200
childless cat ladies. Let's keep going. Hidden in plain sight, right? What's in it for him? What's
00:41:14.200
Jagmeet getting paid? If conservatives get in, it will be the same game. Block NDP liberals.
00:41:21.160
I don't know what's in it for Jagmeet Singh. I don't even think that party that he's leading
00:41:26.920
is fundraising enough to pay him a salary as a party leader. Because normally, party leaders,
00:41:32.440
if they are sitting MPs, and almost always they are, they get their MP salary and then they get
00:41:37.640
a top-up from the party for being the leader. I don't think he's getting that party top-up.
00:41:43.320
Because I think the support for the party has basically collapsed because, I mean, the
00:41:51.560
party is being outflanked on the left by the liberals. Now, as a conservative, if you are a
00:42:00.520
conservative, hidden in plain sight, I think you should be cheering for the re, I don't want to
00:42:06.920
say normalization, but you would want the NDP to return to the NDP of 10 years ago, maybe?
00:42:16.200
Because back then they weren't so radical. They were definitely champagne socialists with whom I
00:42:20.920
disagreed on everything. But I didn't think they were crazy people and Antifa radicals, which I do
00:42:29.320
think they are now. And that's because they had a leader who wasn't a madman. Again,
00:42:34.840
somebody with whom I disagreed on everything. His name was Thomas Mulcair. And he was a grown-up,
00:42:41.800
a fully functioning adult, and he kept the more radical elements of the NDP party under control.
00:42:46.680
Jagmeet Singh's not doing that anymore. And so there is no real vote split on the left because
00:42:55.080
for a conservative party to win in Canada, you need the progressives to divide themselves into
00:43:01.960
two separate parties. But right now, are the NDP offering anybody anything different than what
00:43:09.560
the liberals are already offering? The answer is no. So if you want a progressive in power,
00:43:16.440
you're just going to vote for the liberals, as opposed to what used to happen is where people
00:43:20.600
parked their votes with the party that they thought matched their values. And so there was a vote split
00:43:26.920
and it was great for Stephen Harper. So again, I say, as a conservative, you got to cheer for
00:43:32.520
the certain factions of the NDP to find their sanity again, or at least get back on their medication.
00:43:41.320
Let's keep going. Boyz Hoyes sends us a comment and says, Jagmeet for Prime Minister of Siberia.
00:43:50.280
Well, you know what? I don't know about Siberia, but I mean, he could be the Prime Minister of
00:43:58.840
one of those places that has the system of government that he wants. North Korea, Cuba,
00:44:09.960
Venezuela. Those are all places where they have put his ideology to practice and it only works out
00:44:18.760
well for the people at the top. As Andrew Wilkow says over on SiriusXM on the Patriot channel, he says,
00:44:27.320
socialism is for the people, but it's never really for the socialists. Well, everybody, that's the
00:44:34.760
show for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. I think Ezra's back hosting next week. Thanks to
00:44:40.680
everybody in the studio in Toronto for putting the show together. And as Ezra always says, keep fighting
00:44:45.800
for freedom. Hey, what's up, guys? Celine Gallas here with Rebel News. Now, I have a super crazy topic to
00:44:51.560
break down today. This is quite literally something plucked right from the hit 1999 movie,
00:44:57.400
The Matrix. Baby, growth pods. If you ask me, that's mere steps away from keeping humans encapsulated in
00:45:04.600
those sci-fi artificial wombs made to siphon off a human's energy exactly like the machines did from that
00:45:28.360
Though this representation of what is practically a large-scale baby farm, which is alleged to be
00:45:33.320
capable of incubating up to 30,000 lab-grown babies per year, is but a conceptual psychotic dream brought
00:45:39.960
forth by a biotechnologist and science communicator, Hashim Algali. Hashim graduated from Jacobs University
00:45:46.440
Bremen, where he received his master's in molecular biology. It's his supposed passion for science which
00:45:52.920
motivates him to forward his role in educating the public through his social media and video content,
00:45:59.000
where his personal website does allege that his weekly reach is somewhere around 300 million people.
00:46:05.720
In Hashim's dystopian concept, a futuristic company by the name of Ectolife will be the answer to the
00:46:11.080
world's severe depopulation decline, which I think is pretty ironic considering over the last decade the
00:46:17.640
so-called science experts and new age know-it-alls have been trying to convince you that God's green
00:46:22.920
earth is in peril, and because of our so-called overpopulation issues that we are losing all of our
00:46:28.680
resources, but does the data really back up those claims? Ectolife is designed to help countries that
00:46:34.040
are suffering from severe population decline, including Japan, Bulgaria, South Korea, and many
00:46:40.440
others. As you can see here, according to data taken from the World Bank, Japan's fertility rate has been
00:46:46.600
steadily declining for many years now. With healthy fertility rates being mostly consistent in Japan
00:46:52.440
from 1960 to 1975, fertility rates are now at an all-time low. But that isn't to say that the
00:46:59.240
conceptual idea of baby farms is the correct way to approach fertility issues. For instance, Japan,
00:47:05.000
Bulgaria, and South Korea all have very high levels of air pollution, where most of their citizens live
00:47:11.240
also very high-stress work lives, and as the saying goes, folks, you are what you eat. These three
00:47:17.320
countries are also known to have a high consumption level of unhealthy foods that include refined
00:47:22.120
grains, sugary drinks, and unhealthy fats, which again, all contribute to fertility issues. Now,
00:47:27.960
these three countries also have relatively high rates of smoking, which is known to reduce fertility
00:47:33.160
in both men and women. So yeah, great. Why don't we just ignore the fact that an active healthy lifestyle
00:47:38.520
paired with a balanced diet is known to boost fertility in both men and women. And just skip right to
00:47:43.640
the Terminator takedown by putting on a VR suit and committing to only feeling the simulation of a
00:47:49.000
baby growing inside of you, instead of experiencing and embracing the fact that parenthood is a very
00:47:54.440
natural and now somewhat rebellious thing to do in our corrupt modern age. And get this, in the future,
00:48:00.680
you can have all of that all from the comfort of your own home, where you can experience the miracle
00:48:06.440
of motherhood by watching a live stream from your phone that gives you access to a time lapse of your
00:48:12.040
real but fake babies development. The conceptual video even goes as far as to infer that EctoLife will
00:48:17.720
quote, improve your bonding experience with your baby. EctoLife improves your bonding experience
00:48:23.240
with your baby. The next part honestly does make me slightly ill just talking about it. Literally
00:48:28.600
having to say or refer to an umbilical cord as being artificial is enough to honestly make my skin crawl.
00:48:34.440
Each group of pods is connected to two central bioreactors. The first bioreactor contains nutrients
00:48:41.240
and oxygen which are supplied to your baby through an artificial umbilical cord.
00:48:47.720
For goodness sakes folks, it's become common for some groups of individuals to reduce women to our
00:48:52.440
monthly cycles by calling us bleeders. Or, and I hate to open this up, that being the can of worms,
00:48:59.080
because it's simply not one. So instead of recognizing that only two genders exist, and that
00:49:04.280
women, not men, are the only ones of our two genders that are able to carry life in our wombs,
00:49:09.640
sometimes we are also only reduced to our bodily functions as just being referred to as pregnant
00:49:14.840
people or pregnant persons, instead of just being a woman these days. And if you want your baby to stand
00:49:21.240
out and have a brighter future, our elite package offers you the opportunity to genetically engineer the
00:49:27.080
embryo before implanting it into the artificial womb. Thanks to CRISPR Cas9 gene editing tool,
00:49:34.440
you can edit any trait of your baby through a wide range of over 300 genes. Great. And now look here,
00:49:40.760
we're playing God. You guys, this is never a good thing. Gene editing? This is when God casts down a
00:49:45.880
plague or creates another great flood. We don't want to go down this road. This is literally like a video
00:49:50.920
game. But instead of building up traits of your main character, they're trying to turn a beautiful natural
00:49:56.520
process of allowing your body to rely on its natural inherent instinct of choosing a mate with a
00:50:02.440
complementary immune system to your own that will produce the strongest offspring and instead turn
00:50:08.520
this into a build a baby workshop. I can tell you one thing, folks, that this isn't a reality that I'd
00:50:13.480
want to live in. Tackling the issue of infertility rates and genetic issues in general can be addressed
00:50:19.080
from multiple angles, none of which involves skipping over one of the most important and impactful
00:50:23.880
experiences humans can have. The more ways that we allow artificial intelligence to automate our lives
00:50:29.640
and the potential lives of our offspring, well, you know what they say, to play with fire is to risk
00:50:35.320
be burned. For Rebel News, this is Selene Gallis.