Rebel News Podcast - January 25, 2024


SHEILA GUNN REID | Will we ever get answers about what really happened at the Kamloops Indian Residential School?


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385

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Summary

In 2021, the Tecumlas-Tay-Schwetmik First Nation Band government said that they found the remains of 215 former students of the former Kamloops Indian Residential School. To date, not a single body has been discovered. My question is, why, just like the leftist media, the NDP, the Liberal government, are the Conservatives also so quiet about this?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Will anybody ever get to the bottom of what happened at the Kamloops Indian Residential
00:00:20.400 School? I'm not optimistic. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:00:30.000 My first question might not be the easiest for a politician to answer, but this is Rebel News,
00:00:48.040 and I'm Julia Humphrey. Thanks for having me. Thank you. In 2021, the Tecumlas-Tay-Schwetmik
00:00:53.480 First Nation band government said that they found the remains of 215 children who were former
00:01:01.660 students of the former Kamloops Indian Residential School. The reality is that to date, not a single
00:01:07.900 body has been discovered. The band government itself has revised the wording of their claim
00:01:13.740 to say that it's 200 probable graves, no mention of specific children anymore. And the only way to
00:01:20.880 know what's actually beneath the soil would be to excavate, which the band government has not done
00:01:25.880 in two and a half years to date. Meanwhile, in Canada, 96 churches have been burnt or vandalized
00:01:32.920 across the country since that initial claim was made. Many of the fires are proven arson,
00:01:38.280 and the vandals often leave messages that tie to the initial 215 kids claim buried in unmarked graves.
00:01:45.960 My question is, why, just like the leftist media, the NDP, the Liberal government, are the
00:01:53.320 Conservatives also so quiet about this truth and good news, which is that to date, 215 children's
00:02:00.240 remains have not been discovered there? When that truth coming from political leaders could
00:02:04.960 potentially help set free Christian Canadians from attacks on their places of worship?
00:02:10.560 Thank you for your question. I would disentangle two parts, because there is no justification for
00:02:17.080 burning down a church, period. Regardless of the other information or regardless of the other
00:02:27.360 justifications that people would claim to use, there is never a justification to burn down a
00:02:34.940 church. And we as Conservatives have called for stronger criminal sanctions for arson against
00:02:41.580 all who carry out these attacks. We've also called for more security infrastructure around places of
00:02:47.500 worship so that we can stop terrorists who burn down churches, who attack mosques and synagogues.
00:02:53.500 Unfortunately, these crimes against religious communities have raged out of control after eight
00:03:00.060 years of Justin Trudeau's catch and release system, after he has divided our country and turned people and
00:03:05.660 groups against each other. We have more violence directed against religious groups, including
00:03:11.660 Christians, than we have ever seen in Canadian history. This is the result of Justin Trudeau. He is not worth the
00:03:18.140 cost. He is not worth the crime. And he is not worth the country that we know and love. And we should provide the
00:03:23.980 resources to allow for full investigation into the potential remains at residential schools. Canadians
00:03:36.300 deserve to know the truth. And Conservatives will always stand in favor of historical accuracy. None of
00:03:44.140 this changes the fact that the residential schools were an appalling abuse of power by the state
00:03:50.700 and by the church at the time. And we need to move forward in a country that is free so that every
00:03:58.460 single Canadian, whether their ancestry goes back tens of thousands of years or whether they have been
00:04:04.060 here for 10 days, has the freedom to live their life in prosperity and happiness. Thank you.
00:04:11.420 That read there is my friend and colleague, Drea Humphrey, asking the leader of the official
00:04:16.380 opposition, and I think probably the next prime minister of Canada, why his party is not seeking
00:04:24.140 answers with regard to what is alleged to have occurred at the Kamloops Indian Residential School.
00:04:32.780 Initially, it was reported as a discovery of 215 bodies in a mass grave, children allegedly
00:04:42.940 murdered at the hands of the Catholic school at a residential school. It was something that sparked
00:04:51.260 a nation of firebombings of Christian churches, vandalism, attacks against Christians. And it was
00:05:02.060 something our prime minister said that he understood. Remember this clip?
00:05:07.500 As I've also said, it is unacceptable and wrong that acts of vandalism and arson are being seen across
00:05:16.780 the country, including against Catholic churches. One of my reflections is I understand the anger that's
00:05:24.780 out there against the federal government, against institutions like the Catholic Church. It is real,
00:05:31.180 and it is fully understandable given the shameful history that we're all becoming more and more aware
00:05:38.220 of and engaging ourselves to do better as Canadians. Unlike the prime minister, I don't know what could
00:05:45.260 compel someone to burn down a place of worship. I also don't understand what would compel someone to not
00:05:53.740 seek evidence of their claims. Now, someone who has been dogged in her pursuit of the truth is my friend
00:06:02.060 Drea Humphrey. She has done her best to try to get answers, and there really are none. She joins me now to discuss
00:06:13.420 what she knows about the Kamloops Indian residential school, why maybe those answers are not forthcoming
00:06:21.900 yet, and what the conservatives should do. Take a listen.
00:06:34.540 Joining me now is my friend and my colleague, and really someone who I would consider an expert
00:06:40.460 on the file of the lack of evidence being uncovered at specifically the Kamloops Indian residential
00:06:47.100 school, Drea Humphrey. Drea, thanks for jumping on the show with me today. You put a really great
00:06:55.100 question to leader of the official opposition, Pierre Polyev, and we'll get to that in a second.
00:07:01.820 But let's go back a little, just put this all into context. You made a documentary on this,
00:07:08.940 so I think you're one of the few people in this country who have really gone looking for answers
00:07:16.220 where there have been none. Tell us, you know, if you were a new person to this topic, give us the
00:07:21.580 Reader's Digest version of what we know about what happened at the Kamloops Indian residential school.
00:07:28.700 Yeah, well, like myself and everybody else, we were the same. We heard this claim that came out May 27,
00:07:35.180 2021, and that was that the Kamloops Indian Indian residential school had discovered 215 children
00:07:43.660 buried in an unmarked grave. It was unclear at first whether they were saying one unmarked grave
00:07:49.340 or unmarked graves at the former Kamloops Indian residential school. Now, when I heard that,
00:07:54.860 I was just as shocked as everybody else. Got my boots on the ground. We went down there to bring
00:08:00.380 everybody a report and make sure to talk to people. We talked to people who actually attended the school.
00:08:05.900 There was so much sorrow. There was so much grief. But there were so many questions
00:08:12.220 remaining. And I didn't expect to see that happening. So I would say that initial report
00:08:19.100 that I did after the claim was probably the hardest report I ever had to do because I was blindsided
00:08:25.820 with going, well, wait a second. The claim says that by use of ground penetrating radar,
00:08:34.060 that is how they had discovered the remains of 215 former students as young as six years old.
00:08:42.780 And so when you look into ground penetrating radar, you go, that's absolutely impossible to make a
00:08:47.660 statement like that. Not only what's under the ground specifically, how many bodies are under the
00:08:53.180 ground, but how old they are. So that's sort of the beginning of journalistically how I was like,
00:09:01.020 OK, well, how do I juggle, you know, the very real pain, you know, letting the public know about that,
00:09:07.740 but also letting the public know something else isn't quite right. And so I think that report,
00:09:11.980 instead of it taking 48 hours to get up, it took like two weeks, because I had to keep trying to
00:09:17.260 get answers, which even now, I still don't get that directly from the banned government.
00:09:23.260 But I had to get enough to let everybody know in that first report that, hey, this, this is the claim.
00:09:28.620 I, you know, it doesn't seem like it would be unmarked graves, stuff like that. And I don't
00:09:33.260 understand how they're getting that. So that's how it first happened. And the documentary came about a
00:09:37.820 year later, when it was kind of like enough is enough. It's been a year, and nothing has been
00:09:44.060 made clear. The only thing that's made clear is that they had actually backpedaled. And the expert
00:09:50.380 that who made the discovery, Dr. Sarah Bollier, had now started saying it was 200 probable graves.
00:09:57.340 So that got our boots on the ground yet again, to just show people that what we were told was untrue.
00:10:07.660 And there hasn't been any real efforts to bring confirmation or closure. I think to find out that
00:10:15.340 these are not graves would be a great thing for this country. And you would think that the powers that
00:10:23.660 be would want to know, A, are these not graves? That's wonderful. A genocide was not committed
00:10:29.420 there. Or on the flip side, if this is bad, how do we hold the responsible accountable? How do we
00:10:38.460 bring closure to the families, if that is the case? But there really has been none of that done.
00:10:46.060 Absolutely. And let's not forget about repatriation, which is really important to
00:10:51.100 the Indigenous community. That is having what's rightfully yours returned back. So if there are
00:10:57.820 hundreds of buried children there from that school, that means they're from all over British Columbia,
00:11:03.820 which is not just the Shwetmik First Nation children. So usually, you would think that you
00:11:10.380 would want to know, A, what happened to these children, and where do they belong, and bring them
00:11:15.100 back rightfully so to have proper burials. So that's just another aspect of it.
00:11:19.420 So what is the reluctance then, do you think? I'm probably asking you to speculate here.
00:11:26.140 Yeah. To excavate and find out, are these tree roots? Are these weeping tiles, as might be the case
00:11:37.100 based on some old records that have been uncovered? Or are these graves? And if they are graves,
00:11:48.140 are they just forgotten graves? Or something far more sinister? What I'm asking you to speculate,
00:11:55.980 what's the reluctance to get to the bottom of this?
00:11:58.700 I can't really speak to the reluctance. I mean, I did speak to Cookby Chief herself, and she said,
00:12:05.660 you know, we're entertaining the thought of doing that. And then they had the interlocutor
00:12:11.740 involved and things like that seems overly complicated. But I will lay out some facts,
00:12:16.060 and then the viewers can speculate on their own. It's not just the hesitation to excavate that raises
00:12:23.260 questions. It's also the fact that the RCMP weren't allowed to do an investigation there.
00:12:28.780 The BC Coroner's office has never done an investigation there. So many people think there
00:12:34.620 was a mass murder of children there. And to think that the RCMP and the BC Coroner's has never actually
00:12:41.580 investigated that property is quite shocking. Then you couple that with why the RCMP backed off. They
00:12:48.460 initially, as you would expect them to do after that announcement, were asking questions, going there.
00:12:55.820 And former Senator Marie Sinclair spoke on behalf of the ground-penetrating radar specialist and basically
00:13:05.340 said it was racism. He basically said, you're intimidating her by asking these questions,
00:13:10.620 and I've advised her to lawyer up. And that was the end of it for the RCMP. So you have the specialist
00:13:16.700 who makes this claim, who, by the way, I've looked into very much and really has no excuse
00:13:21.420 to make such a claim through ground-penetrating radar. She should know better based on her
00:13:25.900 experience, who won't ask questions. And remember that there is RCMP right on the property, right
00:13:33.420 beside the school. They are part of that community. It's not outsiders coming in. So even their own RCMP
00:13:41.740 have not done an investigation. So I think that's important to know. And then we go two and a half years
00:13:47.420 later, and there's still no excavating being done. No proper explanation for why, other than, you know,
00:13:54.140 we're trying to be culturally sensitive. And there's money attached to this, right?
00:13:59.260 Yes.
00:13:59.580 Like, Ottawa pledged $320 million to these bans so that they can search for residential school discoveries.
00:14:10.380 And I don't know what, if any, strings are attached to that. Do you just get money to search,
00:14:18.860 but you never actually have to search? I'm not sure how that works. There seems to be very little
00:14:23.340 clarity or accountability to what appears to be a third of a billion dollars just going out the door.
00:14:30.060 Yeah, it's actually, they pledged 330. I know that for sure they've handed out 90 million. But again,
00:14:38.460 if people want to speculate based on facts, try to remember what big event happened in the world. It
00:14:44.780 happened in America, but it had everybody looking into social justice issues, systemic racism back just
00:14:52.460 before May 2021. Can you remember what that was? Yeah. George Floyd, right? Yeah. So you had the
00:14:59.820 Black Lives Matter movement and all the traction that was happening. And when you look in the Truth
00:15:04.060 and Reconciliation Commission report, one of the demands is that they want help finding these
00:15:10.300 unmarked graves. They had oral testimony, even in Kamloops, that there was unmarked graves. So they
00:15:15.260 wanted help. And the government actually said they would do that. They said they would give some money,
00:15:19.580 but they never did. So what if it just seems like the right time to shine light on this issue and get
00:15:27.900 the money that they were owed, that they were told. And a week after that announcement went out,
00:15:33.420 maybe less than a week, Patty Hadju, who she actually went out and said, okay, we're going to give 25
00:15:39.980 million right away. That's what she said. And then what happened? Well, we have an unmarked grave. We
00:15:46.700 have an unmarked grave. We have an unmarked grave. They were all reported as discoveries. But if you
00:15:52.060 actually look, most of them had suspected they've had an unmarked grave there for quite some time. It wasn't
00:15:57.820 something new. And many of them, unlike with the Kamloops Indian Residential School,
00:16:03.020 many of the chiefs said, listen, we know there's a grave there. We know it was marked at one point,
00:16:07.740 but over time, the crosses have broken down and we just want to, you know, give them a proper burial.
00:16:12.380 That's totally fine. So again, you guys do the speculating. Yeah. I mean, and you know,
00:16:20.540 when you look at the language attached to this, you see Justin Trudeau kneeling with the teddy bear
00:16:26.220 at Kausna's First Nation with his actor's tears in his eyes, crocodile tears, using terms like
00:16:35.980 genocide. And what I will say about the United Nations, and as people know, I am not a fan of
00:16:42.380 that organization in general, but they actually do a really good job of investigating real genocides,
00:16:47.580 like Rwanda, like the former Yugoslavia. They have teams of forensic investigators that go in,
00:16:52.700 they can determine how old the people were, how they died, their ethnicity, all those things
00:17:00.380 to hold people to account. And I've often wondered why, if indeed this is a genocide the way
00:17:08.620 Trudeau has declared it, that we are a genocidal state, why has nobody called in the United Nations
00:17:15.500 investigators who would do a good job of investigating this, except insofar as they probably don't want
00:17:22.540 it investigated at all. Yeah, a lot of it doesn't make sense. There's also, there's been a halting
00:17:29.020 of the money that we've been paying specifically for that. The First Nation there in Kamlas has said,
00:17:34.780 oh, oh, we don't want any more. So what's that about? That's interesting. Well, you haven't discovered
00:17:39.900 exactly what's happened to the probable children underneath, so why stop? So I can't give the answer
00:17:47.020 to the UN. I can't give a lot of answers. All I can do is ask the questions and make sure that the
00:17:52.860 public knows that this stain that has been put on Canada and Canadians on an international scale
00:18:01.740 has never been confirmed. Period. Right. And it set off a series of attacks on Christian churches
00:18:15.580 all across the country. And it didn't really matter the denomination, although a lot of it
00:18:19.980 was strongly focused on Catholic churches. And ironically, on Catholic churches that exist to
00:18:26.300 serve the indigenous community. I think you would have to be a social justice activist in an urban
00:18:33.180 area and quite possibly white to not know that by and large, the majority of indigenous people in this
00:18:39.820 country are Catholic. And attacking and burning their churches is attacking and burning a part of
00:18:47.020 who and what they are. But that is exactly what happened. You've covered this extensively. Just
00:18:55.260 give us a breakdown about how many churches were attacked. And it wasn't always just churches. It was,
00:19:01.260 you know, it was cemeteries. Sometimes it was statues. It was a lot.
00:19:06.860 Yeah, that's very, very important to point out, because I think I have a rant coming up about CBC
00:19:11.740 basically excusing these church burnings. And they only show one side, which is, you know,
00:19:18.540 an indigenous person who hates the church and isn't sad to see it go up into flames. But even if you
00:19:23.980 hated the church, you're right, these were attached to cemeteries. That's what they're setting on fire
00:19:28.780 is their loved ones. You know, cemeteries where they actually go back every year and visit. And this
00:19:34.220 was in indigenous communities, many of them. In the summer is where it started in the Okanagan out here in BC,
00:19:40.620 in dry areas in the Okanagan. I mean, they could have lit the whole reserve on fire. So it doesn't
00:19:47.020 make any sense. But you're right. There are a lot of indigenous Christians. And so this has been
00:19:53.820 so frightening. According to a measure done by True North, they say that at least 96 churches
00:20:01.900 from that 2021 announcement have been burnt or vandalized. CBC came out, and I'm looking into this
00:20:09.740 to correct this. It's going to be like a part two of my rant with them. So you'll see my rant today.
00:20:13.900 But they say that 33 churches have been burnt. But if you look closely, their wording is
00:20:23.100 like 33 have been destroyed. So there is a difference between what's completely annihilated
00:20:30.380 and what was set on fire. So I have to look at those numbers. But even if it is only 33 churches,
00:20:37.580 that's not an only. Since May 2021, this is insane. And why are so many people quiet about
00:20:44.860 that? If this was a synagogue, if this was a mosque, there would be hell to pay.
00:20:51.020 Yes. Yeah. And it's not just burning. It's vandalisms. It's throwing red paint all over the
00:20:57.580 doors of a church. It's writing genocide across the front entrance of a church so that parishioners
00:21:03.660 and congregants have to run the gauntlet of anti-Christian hate before they can attend services.
00:21:08.860 It's desecrating a statue of Pope John Paul II in Edmonton, who was the most ecumenical
00:21:15.660 people. And I would suggest the most pro-Indigenous pope ever. Just Google the words,
00:21:24.860 John Paul II kissing Indigenous. And the man can keep his lips off Indigenous people. He was just
00:21:30.940 hugging them and kissing them. It was great. And for Pope John Paul II, for people who don't know,
00:21:37.500 he thought it was really important for people to worship in their own cultures, that Christianity was,
00:21:45.020 it's a faith for all humanity. And to make it unique to the culture in which it was being
00:21:53.260 practiced in, that was really important for him. And so that's why it was really important for him
00:21:56.940 to have outreach to Indigenous communities. And yet his statue was desecrated by, I suggest,
00:22:04.060 white liberal know-nothings in Edmonton. So many people were never caught for any of this. It
00:22:09.740 seemed like there was just a lack of investigative curiosity in any of this.
00:22:15.020 Mm-hmm. It's just been hush-hush.
00:22:18.140 Now, you put a great question to leader of the opposition, Pierre Polyev, just a couple of days
00:22:25.820 ago on this topic, because like you, I think it's important that it is not forgotten. This is,
00:22:32.060 I think, the single largest anti-religious attack probably in North American history.
00:22:39.020 I think so.
00:22:39.740 When you see how systemic and devastating it is, and how it is, like, in such a short time frame,
00:22:47.020 and I have two points to make here, but then I'll let you talk, because I'm doing a lot of talking,
00:22:51.660 and I'm supposed to be interviewing you.
00:22:52.860 That's what we do.
00:22:53.500 First of all, cultural sea change in the Conservative Party of Canada, letting us in and letting us ask
00:23:02.540 good questions, which is, I think, a win for everybody.
00:23:07.260 It is.
00:23:07.740 It allows the Conservatives to speak directly to their base, because I think the Venn diagram
00:23:12.540 between the Conservative base and our viewership is probably a circle.
00:23:17.260 And they know we're going to ask tough questions, and I think the Conservatives are better at thinking
00:23:21.340 on their feet than the Liberals are, so it gives them an opportunity to showcase how much better
00:23:25.820 they are, which is exactly what we saw from Pierre Polyev.
00:23:29.580 Yeah, you're right. I mean, I think I ended my full report on that with saying, you know what,
00:23:34.300 Conservatives watch us. Conservative people watch us, but we're not going to stop asking tough
00:23:38.620 questions to Conservatives. And I feel like that was a very tough question. I even say that, Tim,
00:23:42.940 you know, this isn't going to be an easy question to answer. And it's not an easy question for me to
00:23:47.660 ask. I was nervous, because it's just such a weighted question. You want to make sure you deliver
00:23:54.060 all of the facts? Because it's been so in the dark that people won't even know what you're talking
00:23:58.700 about. If I was just to say it wasn't true, people would just think I'm some weird conspiracy theorist,
00:24:03.100 right? But I think all in all, being in that situation, he did answer that question pretty good.
00:24:09.900 He said that Canadians deserve to know the truth. And that's exactly what we're trying to do here,
00:24:16.540 is bring them the truth and expose that there's another side of the story here that's being buried.
00:24:22.460 And that's why I also asked him, why have the Conservatives been so quiet about the now 96
00:24:29.420 and counting churches that have been burnt or vandalized since that claim? And the fact that,
00:24:35.420 you know, them and every other party, they're all standing up for a moment of silence for a
00:24:40.300 discovery that never was. It's right for people who know the truth that that claim hasn't been
00:24:46.460 substantiated. And then they watch every leader in the House stand up and pretend like it is.
00:24:52.220 What does that say? Like it's all a charade. And so that's basically what my question was.
00:24:57.900 No, I thought, I thought it was great. Your question was basically,
00:25:04.540 is anybody ever going to give Canadians the truth on this issue? Because you are right. These
00:25:10.540 politicians could be having moments of silence for tree roots and weeping tiles. Because that is
00:25:16.540 the flip side of this.
00:25:17.420 Sewage plots is another, there's some plans that suggest it could be sewage plots.
00:25:21.500 Yeah. And so I think Canadians are entitled to know our own history. And right now, as it sits,
00:25:31.260 we are letting the progressives write our history when the facts are there just beneath the soil.
00:25:38.460 Mm hmm. Yeah, that's simple.
00:25:41.260 Now, Drea, tell people how they can go back and watch your documentary on the Kamloops Indian
00:25:48.140 Residential School because you did. I mean, you did your best to get answers. But I think at the end,
00:25:54.220 again, there really were no answers or none forthcoming. And I think that is the symptom of this whole
00:26:00.140 problem. But you were really the only journalist that ever actually went there and tried to talk to
00:26:06.700 the people. Everybody else was just happy to believe what some pseudo expert on ground penetrating
00:26:14.540 radar was saying about who and what Canadians are.
00:26:16.780 Mm hmm. Yeah, the documentary is available for free. So if you want to learn about what hasn't been
00:26:22.780 discovered, I usually say and help other people's learn is at Kamloops documentary.com. And basically,
00:26:31.500 it's like that it had been a year still hadn't gotten answers from Ben. Not only did I not get
00:26:36.060 answers from the band government specifically in the documentary I do, I talk directly with Cookby,
00:26:42.540 but also they had moved, you know, things out of their museum and sent them off to back east like
00:26:49.500 it was it was weird. So you go there. And also, there's a part I really, really think was profound.
00:26:55.900 And that's when we asked the people of Kamloops and they are still living in the dark, even though
00:27:00.940 they're right there and they're living under this cloak of shame as well. So I think it's it's worth
00:27:06.460 the watch. It's worth the share. I won't stop reporting on this issue as long as there is another
00:27:12.220 side of the story that's not being covered. And so we're going to continue keeping up with this.
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00:27:27.260 to chip in a few bucks, you know, a coffee a day or something, then that's much appreciated while you're
00:27:32.140 there. You know, Drea, I was going to lead with this, but I didn't think it was important because the
00:27:38.780 truth doesn't really matter. But you have been very careful about all of this because it is close to home
00:27:45.740 for you. You are indigenous yourself. And so for a lot of people who try to discredit your
00:27:50.620 journalistic curiosity is, well, you don't know. You're not one of us. You don't know about our
00:27:58.140 cultural sensitivities. You do.
00:28:01.580 Well, I have family members who attended the day schools, so day residential schools. They weren't
00:28:07.340 taken from their home back east. And that's another reason why it was so hard for me to do these reports
00:28:13.180 is because I not only had to think about people who really believe there's for sure 215 buried kids
00:28:20.140 there or, or whatever, um, at these other claims, but I also had to deal with my own family, you know,
00:28:26.460 but, but that really put the pressure on me to make sure when I report on these, it's just facts,
00:28:33.180 facts, facts. Like you asked me to speculate, I said, here's the facts. You can't. Because then I'm not in
00:28:38.860 trouble. I'm not doing anything wrong. These are the facts. This is what's happened. No one's
00:28:43.820 answering or this, or here's the answer I got in the, in the documentary. There's a little trickery
00:28:48.060 to get the BC coroners to talk cause they weren't talking to me too. Um, so yeah, sometimes I don't
00:28:54.220 always mention that I'm black and indigenous and it's funny because when I do, there's one of two
00:28:58.860 things, uh, people say I'm lying. I don't know why. Uh, the second thing is I'll have people,
00:29:06.300 I think they're rebel supporters and they'll say, oh, Drea, you shouldn't use the black card.
00:29:10.860 And so to that, I say, I'm not using the black card. I am again pointing out the other side of
00:29:16.780 the story. It's no different than gays against groomers, for example. Right. They're saying that not
00:29:23.340 everybody in the LGBTQ community thinks it's okay for a grown man to dress up sexually as a woman
00:29:29.020 and go teach other people's toddlers how to shake their hips like a drag queen. So they say gays
00:29:34.380 against groomers. So when I think it's appropriate, I do point out that, hey, not everybody who's
00:29:40.300 indigenous thinks it's okay not to get answers about potentially hundreds of dead indigenous children.
00:29:47.420 And I think that that's important. Yeah, I do too. I mean, I walk a little bit in your shoes
00:29:53.340 as a farmer who would never consume seed oils that you had to say, I'm a farmer.
00:29:59.900 I'm a farmer. I don't give me them seed oils. Drea, uh, thanks so much for coming on the show. I know
00:30:05.740 you're very busy today. Um, you, you do it. Uh, I know you're doing your best to hold the mainstream
00:30:11.740 media and the activists to account for their lack of, of forthcoming information on this.
00:30:17.660 They're getting the story wrong from the very beginning. They said it was mass graves. They
00:30:21.580 said it was murder. Um, now we, but the truth is we really don't know what it is. And, you know,
00:30:27.980 I think, oh, you know, hopefully, hopefully we find out soon. I'm not optimistic. I think, um,
00:30:35.740 the further away we get from the dis discovery, um, the, uh, lack of information, uh, I think
00:30:44.460 becomes greater. I think a lot of people who jumped on the bandwagon from the very beginning
00:30:49.260 now just want this to be part of it, a distant past. Um, but I know you're not going to let it go.
00:30:55.980 Drea, once again, thanks so much for coming on the show. Thanks for your great work on this.
00:30:59.820 Um, and you know, your ongoing advocacy for, uh, Christians in this country to just be able to
00:31:06.060 live their lives in the public square, unmolested by the state and activists.
00:31:12.060 Well, thank you. Thanks so much for having me. Bye everyone.
00:31:15.100 Well, as always, this is the portion of the show wherein we invite your viewer feedback,
00:31:30.060 unlike the mainstream media who really don't care about, well, anything you have to say,
00:31:35.340 they really just care about making sure that they get your money from Justin Trudeau in their coffers.
00:31:43.180 Without you, there is no rebel news. So I want to hear from you. It's the reason I give out my
00:31:48.140 email address right now. It's Sheila at rebel news.com. Put gun show letters in the subject line.
00:31:53.820 So I know why you're reaching out to me because I can get up to, well, frankly,
00:31:58.780 hundreds of emails a day, depending on what sort of controversial or rambunctious antics
00:32:06.380 us rebels are getting up to on any given day. Um, David Menzies. Um, but also don't hesitate to
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00:32:27.180 leave something in the comment section. I frequently go looking through there, um,
00:32:31.180 for whatever you have to say. And actually today's comes from the email bag and it comes
00:32:39.820 from a regular viewer of the show, Bruce Atchison. He lives in beautiful Radway, Alberta,
00:32:47.260 um, where they have a really great army surplus store there in case you're interested.
00:32:51.500 And, uh, he writes to me on my show with my friend, Robbie Picard from oil,
00:32:57.420 sand strong and oil and gas world magazine last week. And Bruce writes, hi, Sheila. Robbie's
00:33:06.300 interview was quite good and he only swore twice. That must be a record for him. Yeah. Talk about
00:33:11.820 rambunctious there. Um, he, and he kept it to like a PG 13 level swearing, which makes it easier on my
00:33:20.540 editors. Um, you know, I'm not one to, uh, censor people. So I, I really don't care. I'm,
00:33:28.460 I'm a farmer. My family's from the oil patch, so I'm not, um, clutching my pearls over rough language,
00:33:35.340 but I know that we have, uh, Christians and, and, and other people who, you know, they, they don't like
00:33:40.780 that kind of language who watch the show. So if I can remember, sometimes I'll give a little bit of
00:33:46.540 a language warning. I know I have to do it on the live stream on Fridays sometimes when we're
00:33:50.380 showing clips, um, from outside, you know, like found clips from the internet. Um, like Sean
00:33:57.020 Strickland, I, Sean Strickland went off on the Canadian media and Justin Trudeau, and there were
00:34:04.540 a lot of F bombs in that. And again, I'm not blushing about it, but I know that we have some
00:34:10.460 people who regularly watch you just don't use that sort of language. And I'm not about to censor
00:34:15.820 it, but I feel like I should have given everybody a bit of a, just a little bit of a warning.
00:34:19.820 Cause it can be kind of jarring at like 11 o'clock in the morning when you're just tuning in with
00:34:25.580 your coffee to watch Sheila ramble about stuff for an hour on a Friday, and then you've got
00:34:30.060 nothing but F bombs from Sean Strickland. Anyway, Bruce writes, but seriously, I'm glad those Hollywood
00:34:36.620 hacks are being ratioed so hard on social networks. Um, we were talking about the anniversary of Robbie
00:34:44.460 running Jane Fonda out of Fort McMurray. She went on an oil sands bashing tour and he caught her at the
00:34:53.980 local Moxies and just gave her the what force in the parking lot. Cause she went there to say,
00:34:59.660 you know, like, Oh, you're poisoning the groundwater of the indigenous people.
00:35:02.620 And Robbie indigenous himself was like, listen, sister, this is a job creator and a wealth creator
00:35:10.860 for indigenous people. And there are multiple partnerships between oil and gas companies
00:35:15.900 and the bands that are creating generational wealth for his people. And he wasn't going to let some
00:35:22.380 white privileged Hollywood lady come to his town and bad mouth the jobs of indigenous people. And it was,
00:35:30.140 um, beautiful. Anyway, I especially love what Robbie said about native people and the dignity they feel
00:35:36.460 when they're employed. It's the dignity we all feel. I don't think it's exclusive to
00:35:42.220 indigenous people. There is value in hard work and earning your way in this world and showing your
00:35:48.380 children that this is the way, this is the way that nobody's coming with a handout for you. And if you,
00:35:54.460 they come with a handout for you, you probably shouldn't take it because when the government gives you
00:35:58.540 something with one hand, the other hand is always a fist as Andrew Wilkow always says on his SiriusXM
00:36:04.700 show. Let's keep going. I sure remember the thrill I had when I earned my first paycheck being legally
00:36:10.300 blind jobs were and still are hard to come by. That first $350 I earned gave me so much joy that I
00:36:17.820 actually earned it. It wasn't charity or welfare. I actually was paid for what I did. This is why
00:36:25.100 Robbie's stories mean so much to me. People need hope, not Trudeau. That's great. I also survived the
00:36:32.540 cold snap, but my furnace died. I'm glad the repair guy resurrected it and I'm warm again. Sincerely, Bruce.
00:36:37.580 Yeah, it was bitterly cold. I think it was about like minus 53 for a couple of days here. The school
00:36:44.140 buses didn't run. And that's also when we got that emergency alert saying that we had a potential grid
00:36:51.340 failure because of increased electricity demand, even though we are a province that is absolutely
00:37:00.380 dripping in coal and oil and gas. And that has to do with the accelerated coal fees out,
00:37:05.580 thanks to Rachel Notley. These are her chickens coming home to roost. Ironic that she resigned
00:37:11.660 in the week that we had that emergency alert that she ultimately caused in 2015. It takes a while for
00:37:21.020 bad things to catch up, doesn't it? Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight. Thank you as always
00:37:25.420 for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week. And
00:37:29.660 don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.