Rebel News Podcast - July 12, 2019


SPECIAL! “Fake news,” “feelings” more important than freedom at government media conference


Episode Stats

Length

16 minutes

Words per Minute

171.04857

Word Count

2,765

Sentence Count

250

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

Ezra Levant is back in the Potemkin village of free speech. Day two of the so-called "Media Freedom Conference" in London, England is in full swing, and Ezra is here to talk about it.


Transcript

00:00:00.540 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast.
00:00:03.880 Day two in the Potemkin village of free speech.
00:00:07.600 It's July 11th and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:12.600 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:16.400 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:20.460 The only thing I have to say to the government of a wire publisher
00:00:23.820 is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:30.000 You know what a Potemkin village is, don't you?
00:00:35.040 It's a fake. It's something to show off to foreign media to, well, to lie about the way things really are.
00:00:41.260 And that's what this so-called Media Freedom Conference,
00:00:45.300 co-sponsored by the governments of Canada and the UK, has been.
00:00:49.040 This is the second day of the conference and I am convinced that the purpose of the conference
00:00:54.620 is to further the globalist agenda that Justin Trudeau is definitely part of.
00:01:00.000 And I'm afraid the United Kingdom must be too, but many others,
00:01:03.440 which is to divide the world's media into two parts.
00:01:07.220 Those that are controlled and subsidized by government
00:01:10.320 and those that are marginalized, demonized and banned by government
00:01:15.140 with nothing left in between.
00:01:17.300 No independent media, no free media, no dissident media,
00:01:20.840 just approved media and banned media.
00:01:24.000 Now you might think that sounds astonishing.
00:01:26.540 How could the governments of Canada and the United Kingdom abide that?
00:01:30.280 Well, I'm telling you that for the last 48 hours I've observed it with my own eyes.
00:01:34.740 I've listened to dozens, probably two dozen hours of conversations,
00:01:39.340 or maybe not quite that much.
00:01:40.540 And the ideas of freedom, what it means to be free, have been incidental.
00:01:47.260 Maybe 20 minutes out of all the talk I've heard,
00:01:51.700 much more common is the talk of banning fake news and disinformation.
00:01:58.460 But what is fake news or disinformation other than something someone disagrees with?
00:02:03.100 I think the theory of man-made global warming is fake news and disinformation.
00:02:07.260 I think the theory of Trump-Russia collusion is fake news,
00:02:11.320 and I think it was proven that way.
00:02:12.820 But for the official narrative media, that was the truth.
00:02:16.780 So what we have here is a media censorship commission
00:02:20.340 that calls itself a free speech conference.
00:02:25.580 It's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
00:02:27.300 It's a censor in free speech clothing.
00:02:29.860 I want to tell you about one particular moment when I knew this was coming true.
00:02:34.140 I actually wasn't there myself, but Sheila Gunn-Reed, our chief reporter,
00:02:37.860 and Andrew Lawton from TNC.news were there.
00:02:40.800 As you know, Canada's foreign minister, Christy Freeland,
00:02:43.380 was one of the co-sponsors of this event.
00:02:45.220 And she was having a press scrum.
00:02:48.320 And there was a gaggle of reporters, including from CTV and Global News
00:02:55.000 and other mainstream media who frankly don't have a lot of time for us here at The Rebel.
00:02:58.780 Well, feelings mutual, that's fine.
00:03:00.620 So this whole gaggle of Canadian reporters was going in,
00:03:05.140 and Sheila and Andrew were there, and they said,
00:03:07.960 Oh, oh, oh, oh, stop, you guys, stop, stop.
00:03:11.140 It's too crowded in here, so two journalists can't make it,
00:03:15.880 and those two are you, Sheila, and you, Andrew.
00:03:21.200 Oh, my God, it couldn't have been more transparent.
00:03:23.560 And in that moment, Christy Freeland showed her true colors at a free speech conference.
00:03:32.560 She censored Sheila and Andrew.
00:03:36.780 At the conference, moments after giving a lecture to everyone
00:03:41.740 about how politicians must respect journalists even if they ask tough questions.
00:03:46.200 If that story isn't incredible enough, what happened next was even more amazing.
00:03:52.280 Those other mainstream media journalists I just referred to,
00:03:56.020 they actually stood up for a moment.
00:03:59.560 For us, maybe, but for free speech, for sure.
00:04:03.140 And they all said,
00:04:04.640 If Sheila and Andrew aren't going in, we aren't going in.
00:04:09.480 And not just that, it wasn't just the Canadians.
00:04:11.480 An Al Jazeera reporter said that.
00:04:13.520 Stop and think about that for one second.
00:04:16.720 A government broadcaster, a government journalist from the state broadcaster of Qatar,
00:04:22.980 an odious dictatorship, had more free speech in his blood
00:04:27.480 than Christy Freeland, the co-chair of this conference.
00:04:31.800 Here, our friend Sheila Gunn-Reed was right there with her camera.
00:04:34.740 Take a look at how that went down.
00:04:36.080 So, um, Rubber Mail, um, Wobble, um, CTD, Al Jazeera, CBC, and the National Economic Team.
00:04:47.480 What about the rest?
00:04:48.440 The rest of us?
00:04:49.460 The rest will have to stay back.
00:04:50.680 No, I don't think we all go.
00:04:51.960 No, that's nonsense.
00:04:52.880 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:04:54.940 That's, let's take us to the room, and we can see if we can...
00:04:57.700 No, we're not going, Brittany, we're just not.
00:04:59.200 We're all going to the room.
00:04:59.720 This is a media freedom conference.
00:05:01.020 Yeah, this is ridiculous.
00:05:01.860 We just don't do that.
00:05:02.500 So, that was the highlight.
00:05:06.500 The worst censor at the conference was Chrystia Freeland, the co-chair.
00:05:10.600 The best moment was Canadian journalists who discovered the...
00:05:14.480 Maybe they always had it.
00:05:15.600 It was latent.
00:05:16.540 They stood up for the rebel.
00:05:18.140 It was sort of amazing.
00:05:19.780 Anyways, there was a lot of interesting...
00:05:21.180 There's a lot of depressing things.
00:05:22.440 I was actually invited to be on a panel, sort of a youth journalism panel.
00:05:26.240 I don't like when things are artificially divided up at the kids' table and the grown-ups' table,
00:05:30.840 but, hey, take it where you can get it, right?
00:05:32.400 And I was invited on a panel at this conference.
00:05:35.580 Obviously, they didn't run that by Chrystia Freeland.
00:05:37.760 So, I was on it, and I was disappointed at how little, how shallow the roots of free speech are in the millennial generation.
00:05:45.800 I was very depressed by it.
00:05:47.300 And I think that the idea of hurt feelings that counterfeit human right not to be offended,
00:05:54.200 I'm afraid that's taken deep root even at this conference.
00:05:57.800 But I want to tell you a story today that I thought was rather incredible.
00:06:03.580 As I mentioned, this was co-sponsored by Canada and the United Kingdom.
00:06:08.860 There's about 1,000 delegates here.
00:06:10.780 I was told by a staffer there are 900 people working at this conference of 1,000.
00:06:15.900 And, you know, there was Brits and there's Americans here and Canadians and other Europeans,
00:06:20.940 and it was interesting.
00:06:22.480 And I just sat down in a session, and I couldn't even find it on my agenda.
00:06:28.000 It wasn't an official part of the agenda.
00:06:29.980 And I sat down, and I wasn't really paying much attention because I didn't know who I was listening to.
00:06:33.320 And I heard him talking about how free the country of Pakistan was.
00:06:41.860 Pakistan? Free?
00:06:43.480 Pakistan is a racist, Islamic supremacist country in their constitution.
00:06:50.380 Their bigotry is hardwired in there.
00:06:52.320 They're extremely censorious.
00:06:54.260 Let me just give you one example.
00:06:55.460 I'm sure I could give you a dozen.
00:06:57.260 You know the case of Asia Bibi, the Christian woman who was sentenced to death for blasphemy against Islam,
00:07:07.700 finally freed and actually came to Canada, if you can believe it.
00:07:11.520 The Pakistani foreign minister was a guest of honor speaking on the main stage.
00:07:20.100 That thug, and I call him a thug because he's part of the regime.
00:07:24.060 It would be like having Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela or Vladimir Putin.
00:07:28.640 I mean, they're not completely irredeemable, but to invite the foreign minister of Pakistan as an honored guest,
00:07:35.420 and I couldn't even believe he was there.
00:07:37.640 And I was listening to him lie about free speech when I knew about Asia Bibi.
00:07:43.060 And surely Chrystia Freeland, the foreign minister who welcomed and took a photo op with these people coming from Pakistan,
00:07:51.120 surely she would object.
00:07:52.340 No.
00:07:52.660 Well, I have a little censorship story involving Pakistan.
00:07:57.120 You see, I like to tweet on Twitter.
00:07:58.880 It's what I do, and I tweet about many subjects.
00:08:01.180 And one day I got an email from Twitter saying the government of Pakistan objected to a tweet I published.
00:08:10.040 And so they demanded it be deleted, and Twitter complied.
00:08:13.180 And so you've got some thuggish Sharia supremacist in Pakistan telling a company in San Francisco,
00:08:23.060 First Amendment free speech jurisdiction, to censor me, a Canadian journalist, in Toronto.
00:08:28.600 And they did it.
00:08:30.340 And that thuggish foreign minister of Pakistan was sitting right on the stage.
00:08:36.460 Well, you know me.
00:08:38.580 I'm very diplomatic.
00:08:39.620 And when you have a careful, nuanced point you want to make, send in Ezra Levant.
00:08:44.840 And here's how that looked.
00:08:46.560 Thanks.
00:08:47.120 Actually, I'm not going to be directed by you.
00:08:48.900 I'm going to ask a question to the Pakistani gentleman.
00:08:51.460 No, you're not.
00:08:52.000 Yes, I am.
00:08:52.780 Because it's the Media Freedom Conference, and you're not going to shut down questions about a censor.
00:08:57.260 You censored me, sir.
00:08:58.440 I have a Twitter account in Canada, and because I wrote something that produced some Pakistani blasphemy law,
00:09:06.500 you complained to Twitter, which took down my tweet in Canada.
00:09:11.100 So can you explain why your Islamic supremacy in Pakistan is silencing my personal and journalistic freedom in Canada?
00:09:20.680 And I know it happens in the United States, too.
00:09:22.740 And frankly, you sure should be embarrassed to invite a censor like this.
00:09:25.960 But back to the thought, who the hell are you to censor me in Canada?
00:09:29.840 Answer.
00:09:30.420 Now, I don't like...
00:09:32.020 I know you don't, because you don't like free speech.
00:09:34.660 I don't like...
00:09:35.420 You don't like free speech.
00:09:37.180 Okay, would you like to not censor me?
00:09:38.660 I'll just respond to you, sir.
00:09:40.860 First of all, you want your sentiments with a perspective.
00:09:45.960 Just look at the tone of the talent you've adopted.
00:09:50.140 Is that the correct way?
00:09:52.060 You have a right last question, sir.
00:09:53.680 Well, then why did you censor me?
00:09:54.980 Did I censor you?
00:09:56.160 You shut down my Twitter tweet.
00:09:57.740 I did not.
00:09:58.200 Don't lie.
00:09:59.720 How can I...
00:10:00.780 How am I censor you for that?
00:10:02.280 Because the government of Pakistan did.
00:10:04.500 The government of Pakistan.
00:10:05.820 I didn't respect you to you.
00:10:07.020 No, you were not.
00:10:07.780 You censored me.
00:10:09.000 I did not censor you.
00:10:09.940 Don't lie.
00:10:10.560 All right.
00:10:10.940 Why would I lie?
00:10:11.840 Because that's what you do.
00:10:12.880 Okay, me?
00:10:13.400 No, we don't.
00:10:14.440 I'm sorry.
00:10:15.160 I'm sorry.
00:10:16.140 Shame on you and shame on you.
00:10:17.700 You have...
00:10:18.240 You have double standards.
00:10:19.440 Shame on you and shame on you for inviting you.
00:10:20.980 You have double standards.
00:10:21.460 Shame on you.
00:10:22.780 You censorious bug.
00:10:24.860 You have double standards.
00:10:25.960 I'm sorry as a thug.
00:10:27.200 And what you call freedom at times you are projecting certain sectoral agenda.
00:10:33.420 Well, what do you think?
00:10:34.520 Did the shoe fit?
00:10:35.400 Was he a thug?
00:10:36.380 I enjoyed saying it.
00:10:37.780 I bet you 200 million Pakistanis wanted to say that to him.
00:10:41.820 But alas, they can't because it's not free.
00:10:44.660 There were a number of speakers from unfree countries.
00:10:47.380 Anyways, as I was walking out, a young Pakistani man came right up to me and wanted to talk to me.
00:10:53.520 And I was worried.
00:10:54.520 It was part of the foreign minister's thuggish entourage.
00:10:57.580 It wasn't.
00:10:58.580 It was a young reporter who himself had been blackballed by that same foreign minister.
00:11:05.460 In fact, he was a TV journalist whose network was taken off the air.
00:11:10.720 I couldn't believe that.
00:11:12.700 Here, take a look.
00:11:13.780 He was so excited that someone finally held the foreign minister's account.
00:11:17.080 Here's his story.
00:11:17.880 Take a look.
00:11:18.640 Irfan, after I asked the foreign minister a tough question, you came up to me.
00:11:22.200 At first, I thought you were maybe an enforcer of his, but the opposite.
00:11:25.980 The Pakistani government has censored you too, haven't they?
00:11:29.140 Thank you very much for your time.
00:11:31.540 You know, the first question which I asked you, the minister, I'm really shocked when coming to this world organization,
00:11:36.520 like the conference where the whole world is watching you and putting a show to the world,
00:11:40.920 that in Pakistan the media is free, which is not.
00:11:44.380 The three channels have been taken off the air, right?
00:11:47.040 And this is something really disturbing for all the journalists
00:11:51.260 because we don't know where we stand as a free journalist and what we have to do.
00:11:54.480 Because the reason was during the time when the PTI government in Pakistan, right,
00:11:59.860 they were campaigning for the election.
00:12:01.560 The channels in Pakistan were actually showing the street power of PTI without any discrimination
00:12:08.000 because everybody has a right to come in the street and talk about this is what happens in democracies.
00:12:13.480 But recently, since this government came into power, right,
00:12:18.260 most of the media houses in Pakistan are actually controlled in their own way,
00:12:23.040 that you cannot show this, you cannot show this.
00:12:25.120 There's a lot of censorship going on, right?
00:12:27.040 The question was, during the press conference of the political rival of the foreign ministers,
00:12:33.060 Shah Mahmood Qureshi, Maryam Namaz, who is the daughter of the ex-prime minister in Pakistan, right?
00:12:38.620 And during her press conference, these channels have been taken off the air
00:12:42.100 because what she was actually coming up with the evidence,
00:12:44.580 what exactly happened with that particular judge,
00:12:47.620 who actually admitting the fact that the whole deceit in the case of the prime minister of Pakistan
00:12:55.980 was influenced by some power corridors, right?
00:12:59.340 And tell me, you mentioned just before we turn the camera on that you yourself,
00:13:03.120 your media outlet has been censored.
00:13:05.020 Tell me a little bit more about that.
00:13:06.180 You said you were taken off the air?
00:13:07.360 Yeah, in the most part of the country, 24 News is not live.
00:13:11.420 And the message came on the screen.
00:13:13.060 There's a technical error.
00:13:14.520 But it wasn't a technical error, was it?
00:13:15.700 Technical error.
00:13:16.160 Everybody knows where the error was.
00:13:17.460 And, you know, it's just more like a censorship which the Pakistan media is actually facing right now.
00:13:21.400 Let me ask you one last question.
00:13:22.440 I know you're very busy.
00:13:23.300 Thanks for talking with me.
00:13:24.760 How did you feel as a journalist who's been censored by the government of Pakistan
00:13:28.820 to see the foreign minister of Pakistan on stage being given the red carpet treatment?
00:13:35.160 Well, you know what?
00:13:35.620 That's the thing.
00:13:36.920 When you come to a world platform like this,
00:13:39.320 and if you have to put the ball in somebody else's court, right?
00:13:42.120 Oh, this is not my job.
00:13:43.120 I'm the foreign minister.
00:13:44.000 This is a PEMRA who is doing in Pakistan, the regulatory body in Pakistan.
00:13:47.340 Then why are you here?
00:13:48.140 Send somebody who is the representative of the PEMRA
00:13:50.120 so we can actually address to the people, the right people, the right question,
00:13:53.300 if you believe that.
00:13:54.000 I think this absolutely defines the values of the journalism in Pakistan.
00:13:58.580 If someone of that level coming to media conferences like this,
00:14:02.060 I think they're just filling the blanks.
00:14:04.820 And it's nothing more than that.
00:14:06.840 Irfan, thanks very much for talking with us.
00:14:08.440 And good luck.
00:14:09.020 You are on the front lines of free speech, and I hope you stay strong.
00:14:12.140 Thank you very much.
00:14:12.940 Thank you very much.
00:14:13.600 Nice to meet you.
00:14:14.340 Isn't that strange?
00:14:15.980 He was outraged too.
00:14:18.000 A Pakistani journalist who's looking to the United Kingdom and Canada,
00:14:21.180 perhaps for hope, for inspiration as a role model.
00:14:24.720 He's invited to this conference where he's told it'll be about media freedom.
00:14:30.480 He's a hopeful young Pakistani man who wants our Western values of liberty.
00:14:33.860 And what does he see on the stage?
00:14:38.340 His jailer, his warden, his punisher, his censor, his bully, his boss, his tyrant, his dictator, his authoritarian.
00:14:45.060 Imagine how crestfallen he would have been.
00:14:48.040 He's invited to this fancy pants conference.
00:14:51.400 Jeremy Hunt, Foreign Secretary of the UK.
00:14:54.120 Chrystia Freeland, Foreign Minister of Canada.
00:14:57.100 No expense spared.
00:14:58.420 This is going to be amazing.
00:14:59.300 We're going to talk about media freedom.
00:15:00.300 And he's a young Pakistani man.
00:15:01.760 He wants freedom there.
00:15:02.820 And he looks on the stage and he sees the tyrant.
00:15:07.280 That's the kind of conference this has been.
00:15:09.960 Well, folks, I was here for two days.
00:15:12.060 I'll have one more report on this tomorrow.
00:15:14.080 I think it's important because the kind of camouflage and misdirection and sleight of hand here
00:15:20.400 on freedom of speech is exactly what you can expect to be pushed all around the world,
00:15:26.120 especially in Canada in this election year.
00:15:28.640 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us at The Rebel, including over here in London, UK,
00:15:35.540 to you at home, good night.
00:15:38.500 And keep fighting for freedom while you still can.
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