Rebel News Podcast - September 03, 2019


SPECIAL： Gavin McInnes and Ezra Levant talk censorship, pronouns, Antifa and mob rule


Episode Stats

Length

39 minutes

Words per Minute

185.58427

Word Count

7,314

Sentence Count

338

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

42


Summary

Ezra Levant catches up with his old friend and former colleague Gavin McInnes to talk about the left's de-platforming of him, and why he thinks it's a good thing that he's not here anymore.


Transcript

00:00:00.560 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast.
00:00:03.860 Tonight, whatever happened to Gavin McInnes?
00:00:06.840 It's September 2nd, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:11.560 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:15.360 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:19.420 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it
00:00:22.960 is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:30.000 Well, one of my favorite guys is Gavin McInnes.
00:00:38.400 So funny, but not just funny for funny's sake.
00:00:41.440 He makes a point, and because he uses humor,
00:00:43.860 he has a much wider audience than boring blah, blah, blahers
00:00:47.700 that just talk about policy.
00:00:49.800 And he was a big hit with the Rebel for years.
00:00:53.160 At the end of his tenure with us, he had hundreds of videos,
00:00:56.100 many of which had more than one million views.
00:00:59.400 Now, he was such a success, and we're so proud of that,
00:01:01.980 that he was hired away from us.
00:01:04.040 It happens sometimes.
00:01:05.600 We simply couldn't compete with the financial offer made to him by CRTV,
00:01:11.360 an American-based paywalled conservative site.
00:01:14.540 He went down there, and he was doing shows there
00:01:17.560 a little different than his shows for us,
00:01:19.280 no swearing allowed down there.
00:01:21.100 But then suddenly, he was let go from CRTV,
00:01:25.920 and a series of deplatformings happened to our friend Gavin.
00:01:31.380 He was pushed out of social media,
00:01:34.280 and he was, at least there was an attempt to marginalize him.
00:01:38.220 I'm in New York today to meet up with my old friend,
00:01:40.700 to catch up and talk about this phenomenon of leftists
00:01:45.180 who no longer want to debate.
00:01:46.620 They don't even want to joke.
00:01:49.120 They want to silence, censor, and deplatform.
00:01:51.620 And Gavin joined us now.
00:01:52.820 Great to see you again, my friend.
00:01:53.860 Good to see you.
00:01:54.520 Well, thanks for your hospitality.
00:01:55.460 I don't want to tell you how to do your job,
00:01:56.600 but in the intro, you said,
00:01:57.780 so funny, and then there was nothing after that.
00:02:00.120 Like, you mean, so funny that you forgot to laugh,
00:02:02.580 or so, like, usually so funny is followed by...
00:02:05.320 Gavin is, I laughed and laughed until I stopped.
00:02:09.780 So funny that I laughed and laughed until I stopped.
00:02:11.940 Yeah, that's fine.
00:02:13.760 I tried it in editing, I guess.
00:02:17.400 You really helped build the Rebel in a number of ways.
00:02:19.640 I want to tell you that.
00:02:20.580 I think you know that.
00:02:21.640 You helped us reach beyond guys like me
00:02:24.760 who came up through politics.
00:02:25.840 You made me famous, unfortunately, which I don't like.
00:02:29.720 Weren't you famous before?
00:02:30.820 Not really.
00:02:31.500 You helped start Vice.
00:02:32.220 No, I was never recognized before Rebel.
00:02:34.080 Well, I mean, you did hundreds of videos,
00:02:36.000 and you were the star of all the videos,
00:02:37.620 so I guess you became famous?
00:02:38.820 No.
00:02:39.380 Yeah, I did hundreds of videos for you, you mean.
00:02:40.840 Yeah.
00:02:41.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:02:41.700 Before that, I did some comedy sketches.
00:02:43.380 I get recognized maybe once a week.
00:02:45.300 After the Rebel videos blew up,
00:02:48.080 I am stopped by millennials,
00:02:50.120 mostly white millennial men,
00:02:52.120 five times a day,
00:02:54.260 and they all want a selfie,
00:02:56.440 which is infuriating,
00:02:57.780 because what are you doing with that selfie?
00:02:59.400 Like, we're not friends.
00:03:00.580 It's a moment that they can use as a news peg
00:03:02.880 to tell their friends.
00:03:03.580 I saw Gavin, look at this.
00:03:04.320 It's like with the aboriginals
00:03:05.760 where they thought it was going to steal your soul.
00:03:07.200 They're trying to steal my soul.
00:03:08.220 They want to remember the moment,
00:03:10.300 and they want to...
00:03:10.840 It's a stupid moment.
00:03:11.380 We're not having a moment.
00:03:12.320 They're proud of you.
00:03:12.980 They're turning me into Larry David.
00:03:14.140 They're proud of bumping into you.
00:03:15.060 They want to brag about it.
00:03:15.800 It's a way of tapping into your momentum.
00:03:17.500 Oh, it's the worst.
00:03:17.540 I pose like this,
00:03:18.520 and they put their arm around me.
00:03:19.340 I can feel their arms shaking.
00:03:21.260 You've made me into, like, Celine Dion.
00:03:23.240 You know what?
00:03:24.220 99.9% of people would love
00:03:26.360 to have that place of esteem and fame, and...
00:03:29.720 Oh, it sucks.
00:03:30.960 It's so pedantic.
00:03:32.820 It's...
00:03:33.160 It's so tedious.
00:03:34.480 It's how your fans...
00:03:35.060 Same thing every time.
00:03:36.420 Hey, I just watched one of your videos.
00:03:38.560 Yeah, I figured.
00:03:39.200 I saw the count number.
00:03:40.280 It's pretty high.
00:03:41.740 Well, that's what pays your bills,
00:03:44.120 and to a lesser degree, my bills.
00:03:45.620 Yeah, this is where we differ.
00:03:47.100 Because you will tolerate...
00:03:48.420 You suffer fools gladly.
00:03:50.240 I don't want them around me.
00:03:52.320 I don't like fans.
00:03:53.340 When they're gone, you'll miss them.
00:03:56.180 Yeah, you'll probably try it right.
00:03:58.080 It's like catcalling.
00:03:59.200 It's really irritating,
00:04:00.380 and then the day it stops,
00:04:01.320 you're like,
00:04:01.520 hello.
00:04:02.920 What are these?
00:04:03.980 Chopped liver?
00:04:05.340 Well, it's like,
00:04:06.020 you know,
00:04:06.780 when you're young,
00:04:07.360 you hate being ID'd.
00:04:08.520 Ask for ID'd at a bar
00:04:09.860 or a liquor store.
00:04:10.720 Yeah.
00:04:10.960 And when they're always saying,
00:04:11.640 no, no, I know.
00:04:12.280 No, let me show you my ID.
00:04:13.540 No, no, no.
00:04:14.280 I know.
00:04:15.020 No, no, no.
00:04:15.200 I was going to a bar once
00:04:16.380 with these two younger girls
00:04:17.640 that were working for me,
00:04:19.000 and he asked for ID,
00:04:20.500 and I go,
00:04:21.080 well, I suppose you're going to...
00:04:22.040 And he goes,
00:04:22.440 not you.
00:04:23.040 You old as hell.
00:04:27.020 Well, listen.
00:04:27.860 I mean,
00:04:28.800 I want to tell you,
00:04:29.600 and you probably know that...
00:04:31.500 And one of the fun things
00:04:32.660 about YouTube,
00:04:33.300 fun's the wrong word,
00:04:34.100 but interesting,
00:04:34.960 is that YouTube and Google
00:04:36.280 know so much about
00:04:37.880 everyone who's watching.
00:04:39.340 It's actually terrifying.
00:04:40.440 Right.
00:04:40.640 So as a video producer,
00:04:42.600 we know on any individual video
00:04:45.000 you do,
00:04:46.380 how many people watch it,
00:04:48.280 their age,
00:04:49.280 their gender,
00:04:50.300 their nationality,
00:04:51.680 how many minutes they watch.
00:04:52.980 Like,
00:04:53.060 it's actually amazing
00:04:54.040 and terrifying.
00:04:54.820 And you mentioned
00:04:57.360 the young males.
00:05:00.300 You made our audience younger
00:05:03.360 because you use humor
00:05:05.160 and pop culture references.
00:05:07.900 And your power
00:05:10.200 was that you use that humor
00:05:12.380 and those pop culture references
00:05:13.540 to push ideas
00:05:17.020 that you didn't say,
00:05:18.000 hello, I'm conservative,
00:05:19.020 I'm going to say something
00:05:19.760 conservative now.
00:05:20.860 You just told a story
00:05:22.380 or made a joke
00:05:23.040 or did a sketch
00:05:24.560 and people said,
00:05:25.300 yeah, he's got a point there
00:05:26.300 and didn't even know
00:05:27.120 it was called conservative.
00:05:28.280 Yeah, I think it's important
00:05:29.300 to be honest.
00:05:30.140 And the key to honesty
00:05:31.680 is you have to be brave enough
00:05:34.560 to keep things interrogative
00:05:36.680 and not know.
00:05:37.920 And the big problem
00:05:38.820 with Fox News
00:05:39.440 and a lot of right-wing
00:05:40.140 and left-wing pundits
00:05:41.760 is this is me.
00:05:43.440 Like, I'm the jock.
00:05:44.640 So this is the jock perspective.
00:05:46.160 I'm the nerd.
00:05:46.860 So this is the nerd perspective.
00:05:48.940 I think it's important
00:05:50.060 to treat truth
00:05:51.280 like a scientist
00:05:52.060 and go,
00:05:53.060 here's what I've accrued
00:05:54.540 as a hypothesis
00:05:55.780 from the data,
00:05:56.940 but if you've got something else,
00:05:58.020 that's fine.
00:05:58.760 Like, I remember as a young man,
00:06:00.320 I used to think
00:06:00.980 that Israel should go back
00:06:02.120 to the borders of 1967.
00:06:04.480 And an Israeli said to me,
00:06:06.200 what are you talking about?
00:06:07.360 People spilled blood
00:06:08.540 for where the borders are today,
00:06:10.620 in all borders.
00:06:11.880 People don't just rescind borders
00:06:14.380 like it's nothing.
00:06:15.580 It's not a magical line
00:06:17.760 in the sand
00:06:18.320 that's irrelevant.
00:06:19.280 And I was like,
00:06:20.040 you're right,
00:06:20.380 I never thought of that.
00:06:21.600 I think you're not a real man
00:06:22.960 unless you change your mind
00:06:24.440 about something consequential
00:06:25.620 once a year.
00:06:26.640 And I remember being at Fox News
00:06:27.660 once and this black engineer,
00:06:29.460 camera guy,
00:06:30.480 we were walking together
00:06:31.280 to get to Hannity or something.
00:06:32.900 And he said,
00:06:33.360 yo, man,
00:06:34.140 I got to say,
00:06:35.140 I don't agree with a lot
00:06:35.880 of your views,
00:06:36.420 but I respect
00:06:37.000 that you speak your mind.
00:06:39.200 And I said to him,
00:06:40.620 what views?
00:06:41.820 Like,
00:06:42.020 I don't have views.
00:06:43.360 I have what I believe
00:06:45.180 to be true based on this.
00:06:47.060 Well,
00:06:47.260 you have views.
00:06:48.420 Like what?
00:06:49.280 Well,
00:06:49.500 you have views about masculinity,
00:06:51.180 femininity.
00:06:52.640 Yeah,
00:06:53.000 but if you can disprove it,
00:06:54.140 if you can prove
00:06:54.780 that women are good at sports,
00:06:56.360 I'll eat my hat.
00:06:58.400 If you can prove
00:06:59.240 there's more than two genders
00:07:00.260 and trans people
00:07:01.220 aren't mentally ill gays,
00:07:02.620 I'm all ears.
00:07:03.440 You know,
00:07:05.220 it was exciting for us
00:07:07.700 because it was,
00:07:09.540 you were speaking,
00:07:10.220 I mean,
00:07:11.120 profanity,
00:07:12.760 it didn't bother me.
00:07:14.020 We had a little warning
00:07:14.960 at the beginning.
00:07:15.480 Some of our older viewers,
00:07:16.560 some of our more...
00:07:17.100 A lot of motherfuckers
00:07:18.100 are complete cunts
00:07:19.040 about profanity.
00:07:20.500 They will fuck your head in.
00:07:22.420 Like,
00:07:22.640 they'll fuck it.
00:07:23.440 And my point about that is,
00:07:25.800 that's the power of YouTube
00:07:26.960 is you don't have to,
00:07:28.120 I mean,
00:07:28.580 I remember when we started
00:07:29.420 The Rebel,
00:07:30.480 one of the things
00:07:30.960 we were rebelling against
00:07:32.140 were the rules
00:07:33.360 of censorship in...
00:07:34.680 I was forced
00:07:35.560 to apologize in Canada
00:07:37.340 by something called
00:07:38.260 the Canadian Broadcast
00:07:39.100 Standards Council.
00:07:39.860 Let me tell you
00:07:40.140 a quick swearing story.
00:07:41.940 There's this company
00:07:42.700 called Chiquita Banana.
00:07:44.380 It used to be called
00:07:45.780 the United Fruit Company.
00:07:48.060 And it was a terrible company
00:07:49.380 if you care about
00:07:50.760 local democracy,
00:07:51.760 workers' rights.
00:07:52.520 It was the only company
00:07:53.720 that had its own CIA code
00:07:55.700 named Unifruit.
00:07:56.840 And that's where the phrase
00:07:58.400 Banana Republic came from.
00:08:00.020 Oh, really?
00:08:00.540 Because Unifruit would come in,
00:08:01.720 bribe every politician,
00:08:04.400 bribe the cops,
00:08:05.900 shoot...
00:08:06.560 Like,
00:08:06.880 they literally were so powerful
00:08:08.760 that they destroyed
00:08:10.140 democracies and the rule of law.
00:08:12.540 That's where the phrase...
00:08:13.080 They were fascists.
00:08:13.760 Banana...
00:08:14.320 They were.
00:08:15.080 And they were...
00:08:17.120 They had a working rapport
00:08:18.320 with the CIA.
00:08:20.860 That's where we got the word
00:08:21.880 Banana Republic.
00:08:23.360 Anyways,
00:08:23.820 this company is now
00:08:24.520 called Chiquita.
00:08:25.860 And one day,
00:08:26.680 they dared to defame
00:08:28.740 the oil sentence
00:08:29.440 from Alberta,
00:08:29.920 where I'm originally from.
00:08:31.180 And they said,
00:08:31.720 oh, it's unethical.
00:08:32.500 We're never going to use
00:08:33.160 unethical oil
00:08:33.760 from the oil sentence.
00:08:34.680 And I thought,
00:08:35.500 you're the Banana Republic
00:08:38.040 corrupt,
00:08:39.660 you know,
00:08:40.920 Unifruit company
00:08:41.900 and you're criticizing...
00:08:43.760 And by the way,
00:08:44.980 Chiquita
00:08:45.400 just paid a huge fine
00:08:47.080 in the United States
00:08:47.740 for financing
00:08:48.780 terrorists
00:08:50.020 in Colombia.
00:08:51.760 So it's not even
00:08:52.540 ancient history.
00:08:53.300 Some of the worst
00:08:53.820 terrorists you got
00:08:54.680 outside of ISIS.
00:08:55.400 Yeah,
00:08:55.620 and I don't even
00:08:56.020 understand why
00:08:56.600 they would...
00:08:56.980 So I was doing
00:08:59.440 this rant
00:08:59.900 at the Sun News Network
00:09:01.100 about Chiquita Banana
00:09:02.020 and I was talking
00:09:03.360 about some vice president
00:09:04.820 who was Spanish
00:09:06.000 and I ended
00:09:06.680 by saying,
00:09:08.240 chinga tu madre,
00:09:09.880 which is a swear
00:09:11.580 in Spanish.
00:09:12.700 What does chinga mean?
00:09:14.160 Fuck your mother?
00:09:14.960 That's exactly
00:09:15.460 what that means.
00:09:16.540 In Spanish.
00:09:17.720 Which is fine
00:09:18.380 if you're saying it
00:09:18.900 to your dad.
00:09:19.500 And there was a hearing
00:09:23.720 at the Broadcast Standards Council
00:09:25.300 and I was convicted
00:09:28.060 of being mean,
00:09:30.280 not even of swearing.
00:09:31.740 It wasn't the swearing
00:09:32.600 that bothered them.
00:09:33.560 It was I was mean
00:09:34.620 to the vice president
00:09:36.100 of the Chiquita Banana Company
00:09:37.160 and I was compelled
00:09:38.320 to read a statement on air.
00:09:40.780 Now,
00:09:40.960 the Sun News Network
00:09:41.440 was pretty cool with it.
00:09:42.420 I read it
00:09:43.120 and then I mocked it
00:09:43.960 and I undid it
00:09:45.140 and I put...
00:09:45.500 Like,
00:09:45.620 I physically did say
00:09:48.080 the words
00:09:48.620 in the apology
00:09:49.260 but I attacked it
00:09:50.340 ten times
00:09:51.200 and in fact
00:09:51.640 the head of the Broadcast
00:09:52.660 Standards Council
00:09:53.180 called up the head
00:09:53.820 of the Sun
00:09:54.200 and said,
00:09:54.920 if you guys
00:09:55.240 don't want to be
00:09:56.540 part of this process
00:09:57.340 just let us know.
00:09:59.160 You have to comply.
00:10:00.480 So part of the rebel
00:10:02.200 was rebelling
00:10:02.840 against that regulation.
00:10:03.940 Can I just interrupt you?
00:10:04.160 Yeah.
00:10:04.740 You said you have to comply.
00:10:06.100 Is this the actual
00:10:07.260 Canadian legal system?
00:10:09.320 There's so many
00:10:09.860 fake kangaroo courts
00:10:11.140 in Canada.
00:10:11.980 Like,
00:10:12.300 what would be
00:10:12.960 the ramifications?
00:10:13.960 Would you go to jail?
00:10:14.840 I mean,
00:10:15.860 to get technical
00:10:16.460 there's the broadcast
00:10:17.980 regulator
00:10:18.580 called the CRTC
00:10:19.680 and they said
00:10:22.340 to the industry
00:10:22.900 we'll regulate you
00:10:23.740 or you can choose
00:10:25.000 your own judges
00:10:25.720 and have the Broadcast
00:10:26.960 Standards Council
00:10:27.580 and you should do that.
00:10:29.880 So,
00:10:30.520 basically,
00:10:31.860 the head of Global News
00:10:33.020 called us up
00:10:33.560 and said,
00:10:33.920 if you don't want to be part
00:10:34.620 of this Broadcast Standards Council
00:10:35.780 we'll send you
00:10:37.180 the real CRTC court
00:10:38.300 you just let us know.
00:10:40.160 So it's terrible.
00:10:40.780 That's a mess.
00:10:41.240 Oh,
00:10:41.400 it's a terrible mess.
00:10:42.660 So that was one of the things
00:10:43.480 we were rebelling against.
00:10:45.040 That was a very long story
00:10:45.900 to say.
00:10:46.640 The fact that you swore
00:10:47.640 we put a little warning
00:10:48.880 in the front of it
00:10:49.660 and it never bothered me
00:10:50.780 because people could just
00:10:52.140 click over it
00:10:52.720 or click away from it
00:10:53.480 but I think that irreverence
00:10:55.240 and the fact that you
00:10:56.840 took on sacred cows
00:10:57.860 I mean,
00:10:58.160 you lived up to the name
00:10:59.140 Rebel
00:10:59.580 and I think you really
00:11:01.240 helped build it
00:11:01.760 and I don't know
00:11:02.760 if I ever told you that
00:11:03.480 maybe you always knew
00:11:04.380 but you helped build
00:11:05.840 the Rebel up
00:11:06.460 and give us
00:11:07.640 our spirit.
00:11:08.280 Do you want to get with me?
00:11:08.880 No,
00:11:09.060 I'm just telling you.
00:11:10.040 Okay.
00:11:10.760 This is professional.
00:11:11.580 Well,
00:11:11.820 it's totally professional.
00:11:13.220 Nothing sexual.
00:11:13.900 I'm taken.
00:11:14.620 I'm taken.
00:11:14.880 Because I am too.
00:11:18.880 So when you were hired
00:11:19.940 Keep your hands above the table.
00:11:21.200 So you were hired
00:11:22.020 and we had to talk about this
00:11:23.320 and I tried to
00:11:24.020 I tried to outbid
00:11:25.820 a Nevada billionaire
00:11:27.620 named Kerry Katz
00:11:28.420 who hired you away
00:11:29.580 but I just couldn't.
00:11:30.640 There was no way
00:11:31.100 we could outspend.
00:11:32.480 It was pretty close though
00:11:33.400 and I clearly should have
00:11:34.780 gone with you
00:11:35.520 because I was fired
00:11:37.300 what, a year after?
00:11:39.460 Well, and you were fired
00:11:40.460 for being you.
00:11:43.120 Yeah.
00:11:43.620 I think that they
00:11:44.580 had a horrible experience
00:11:45.700 this must adjust my theory.
00:11:47.360 They had a horrible experience
00:11:48.680 with Mark Stein.
00:11:49.820 He sued them.
00:11:50.980 They became very risk averse
00:11:52.340 and my life changed drastically
00:11:55.600 on October 12th last year.
00:11:57.000 What happened October 12th?
00:11:58.360 I did a speech
00:11:59.740 at the Manhattan Republican Club.
00:12:01.400 I've done speeches there before.
00:12:02.680 It's basically the only place
00:12:03.920 I can do stand-up comedy
00:12:04.960 because as a Trump guy
00:12:06.180 you can't go to comedy clubs
00:12:07.800 in New York
00:12:08.220 and I mean that literally
00:12:09.000 I cannot walk into a comedy club
00:12:10.840 I'll be asked to leave.
00:12:12.160 There's a bar right down
00:12:13.160 the street here
00:12:13.700 called Strange Love
00:12:15.220 where I cannot get a beer.
00:12:16.780 We should go there after.
00:12:17.660 I love tormenting them.
00:12:19.040 I put all their Yelp reviews
00:12:20.360 are full of people saying
00:12:21.300 Proud Boys Official Bar
00:12:22.700 and a great place
00:12:23.380 for a MAGA guy
00:12:24.040 to get a beer.
00:12:24.940 They've totally ruined
00:12:25.660 their business.
00:12:26.340 That's so funny.
00:12:28.140 But we should take selfies
00:12:29.860 in there.
00:12:30.260 Oh, that's funny.
00:12:31.920 But so I just did
00:12:33.220 my normal thing
00:12:33.900 and you know
00:12:35.180 the left is so fragile now
00:12:37.520 that it's just fun
00:12:38.640 to trigger them with this
00:12:40.040 or say
00:12:40.480 free helicopter rides
00:12:41.880 for commies
00:12:42.520 which is a reference
00:12:43.160 to Pinochet
00:12:43.680 that makes them apoplectic.
00:12:45.800 So I read
00:12:46.520 about four months
00:12:47.760 before I had read
00:12:48.460 that Otoya Yamaguchi
00:12:50.160 was this 18-year-old student
00:12:51.760 who assassinated
00:12:52.980 the head of the Japan
00:12:53.780 Socialist Party
00:12:55.100 with a katana
00:12:56.520 and he later killed himself
00:12:58.020 in prison
00:12:58.420 and I read that
00:13:01.720 Japanese conservatives
00:13:02.660 have these ceremonies
00:13:04.520 for Otoya every year
00:13:05.820 which is clearly
00:13:06.960 just to fuck with people, right?
00:13:08.580 And I thought
00:13:09.040 that'd be funny
00:13:09.560 if we did that here
00:13:10.500 and the fact
00:13:11.540 that he's Japanese
00:13:12.120 would screw up people's heads
00:13:13.340 with the racist thing.
00:13:14.580 So we reenacted
00:13:16.600 the assassination
00:13:17.180 of this socialist.
00:13:18.900 Ryan played
00:13:19.760 the Japanese guy.
00:13:21.420 He's half Japanese.
00:13:22.200 He doesn't know any Japanese.
00:13:23.000 So he's just like
00:13:23.440 and when you look it up
00:13:28.060 on YouTube
00:13:28.400 it's in slow motion
00:13:29.260 so I was like
00:13:30.320 with like a plastic katana
00:13:34.520 and I had the
00:13:35.840 almondized glasses
00:13:36.960 they're called now.
00:13:37.720 Oh my God.
00:13:38.180 You're not allowed
00:13:38.500 to call them whatever
00:13:39.340 and I had this
00:13:40.520 I bought a Japanese
00:13:41.400 school uniform.
00:13:42.560 It took like four months
00:13:43.500 to be shipped from China
00:13:44.520 and I was like
00:13:45.340 and he's like
00:13:47.600 and then I did a talk
00:13:50.560 that was pure comedy.
00:13:51.840 Oh my God.
00:13:52.500 It was like the comedy
00:13:53.640 set in Tel Aviv
00:13:54.440 and the funny thing
00:13:55.760 about the left
00:13:56.360 these days is
00:13:57.020 all you have to do
00:13:58.580 is talk about
00:14:00.120 their beliefs
00:14:01.260 and it's a comedy set.
00:14:03.280 Yeah.
00:14:03.960 So you're like
00:14:04.520 let me get this straight.
00:14:05.840 Cops are hunting
00:14:06.600 black people for sport
00:14:07.700 just like on a hillside.
00:14:09.440 I got one.
00:14:10.860 Like you just say
00:14:11.620 their beliefs
00:14:12.220 and everyone's laughing
00:14:12.820 their heads off
00:14:13.300 and the audience
00:14:14.080 by the way
00:14:14.520 was gay, Jewish,
00:14:15.920 black, white,
00:14:17.000 old, young.
00:14:17.820 It was one of the most
00:14:18.600 diverse groups
00:14:19.400 you'd ever see
00:14:20.960 in New York.
00:14:21.400 New York's very segregated.
00:14:23.420 Outside everyone
00:14:24.140 was screaming and yelling
00:14:25.000 Nazi
00:14:25.500 and Antifa
00:14:28.580 beat the crap
00:14:29.300 out of this journalist
00:14:30.000 Paul Miller
00:14:30.620 and three Antifa
00:14:32.160 were arrested
00:14:32.680 Kai Russo,
00:14:33.420 Caleb Perkins,
00:14:34.220 Finn Barcelonum.
00:14:35.280 They got away with it
00:14:36.080 scot-free.
00:14:37.560 But the consequential thing
00:14:38.840 about October 12th
00:14:39.820 was it was right
00:14:40.880 before the midterms
00:14:41.860 and Chadwick Moore
00:14:43.960 had just started
00:14:44.620 this hashtag
00:14:45.180 called Jobs Not Mobs
00:14:47.000 and the left
00:14:47.920 was getting known
00:14:48.500 as unhinged.
00:14:49.400 So they desperately
00:14:50.620 needed right-wing violence
00:14:52.060 to obfuscate
00:14:53.080 that narrative.
00:14:54.340 And they needed
00:14:55.120 a fight that night.
00:14:56.420 They needed Proud Boys
00:14:57.240 to get into a fight.
00:14:58.360 And actually one
00:14:58.980 of the guys
00:14:59.620 said look
00:15:00.580 we know they're
00:15:01.120 looking for a photo op.
00:15:02.300 Let's bring pillows
00:15:03.340 tonight.
00:15:04.340 So if there's a fight
00:15:05.180 they'll have us
00:15:05.840 pillow fighting
00:15:06.500 Antifa.
00:15:07.520 And they brought pillows.
00:15:09.500 But the night ended.
00:15:11.020 Pillows stayed
00:15:11.600 at the Manhattan Club
00:15:12.360 and the mob was there
00:15:14.120 the Antifa were arrested.
00:15:17.020 The Antifa were sent away.
00:15:18.660 They circled the block
00:15:19.520 ambushed Proud Boys.
00:15:21.040 The Proud Boys
00:15:21.460 happily beat them up.
00:15:23.220 And they just got
00:15:24.420 found guilty
00:15:25.060 a year later now
00:15:25.960 almost
00:15:26.320 for too happily
00:15:28.380 beating them up.
00:15:30.060 For defending themselves
00:15:31.080 with too much enthusiasm.
00:15:32.260 And they're facing
00:15:32.780 nine years in prison.
00:15:35.420 The three Antifa
00:15:36.280 it was three of ten
00:15:37.520 by the way.
00:15:38.060 The three Antifa
00:15:38.620 who were arrested
00:15:39.280 for beating
00:15:40.420 mercilessly
00:15:41.220 a journalist
00:15:42.140 and taking his equipment
00:15:43.420 got away scot-free.
00:15:45.720 Probation.
00:15:46.340 No criminal record.
00:15:47.060 No media attention.
00:15:47.800 Nothing.
00:15:49.520 The guys who defended
00:15:50.800 themselves
00:15:51.180 nine years in prison.
00:15:52.540 And anyway
00:15:53.000 since that day
00:15:54.640 there was this
00:15:55.920 huge onslaught
00:15:57.080 that de Blasio
00:15:58.500 the Attorney General
00:15:59.500 the Governor Cuomo
00:16:00.920 they all said
00:16:01.420 hate is not welcome here.
00:16:02.380 The narrative became
00:16:03.120 I started a hate group
00:16:04.360 that roams the streets
00:16:05.200 and just beats up
00:16:05.960 Muslims and gays
00:16:06.960 and trannies.
00:16:08.500 They postered
00:16:09.300 my kids' school.
00:16:10.920 They vandalized
00:16:11.720 my car.
00:16:12.940 They left notes
00:16:13.860 in my door.
00:16:15.180 They planned a vigil
00:16:16.200 in front of my house
00:16:17.040 that I managed
00:16:17.460 to sabotage.
00:16:20.300 I mean
00:16:20.680 I was banned
00:16:22.960 from bars.
00:16:23.580 I could tell you
00:16:24.400 a million stories
00:16:25.180 about the past year.
00:16:26.820 And I noticed
00:16:27.640 the common thread
00:16:28.500 was
00:16:28.940 oh I was banned
00:16:30.020 from PayPal,
00:16:31.500 Instagram.
00:16:32.660 My face
00:16:33.380 my actual face
00:16:34.300 is banned
00:16:34.680 from Instagram.
00:16:35.380 Post a picture
00:16:36.060 of a picture
00:16:37.800 of myself
00:16:38.220 that I use a lot
00:16:38.960 with a fake mug shot.
00:16:40.800 Post that picture
00:16:41.380 on Instagram
00:16:41.660 and it'll be taken down.
00:16:42.700 Or if you say
00:16:43.320 on Facebook
00:16:43.780 I don't know
00:16:44.840 Proud Boys
00:16:45.280 they don't seem
00:16:45.880 that racist to me
00:16:46.560 aren't there
00:16:46.820 a lot of black guys
00:16:47.520 in the club?
00:16:48.380 That will get taken down.
00:16:50.680 So what was the
00:16:52.220 rationale or excuse
00:16:53.600 or rule
00:16:54.300 that was cited
00:16:55.460 by these social media
00:16:56.480 companies for
00:16:57.140 deplatforming you?
00:16:59.300 Literally nothing.
00:17:00.900 It's the
00:17:01.480 Twitter thing
00:17:03.100 said
00:17:03.820 your account
00:17:04.500 has been
00:17:04.840 permanently suspended
00:17:06.360 because
00:17:07.000 colon
00:17:07.680 and a blank space.
00:17:09.740 And I looked
00:17:10.460 at my past 20 tweets.
00:17:11.460 I think I made
00:17:11.920 a YouTube video
00:17:12.500 about my past 20 tweets.
00:17:14.140 Totally benign.
00:17:15.740 Like fart jokes
00:17:16.420 and stuff.
00:17:18.020 But sorry
00:17:18.740 to finish my previous point
00:17:19.660 I looked for a common thread
00:17:21.420 and they all had this
00:17:22.220 cited by the SPLC
00:17:24.620 as a hate group.
00:17:25.960 The SPLC
00:17:26.580 seemed to be
00:17:27.160 the common bond
00:17:28.480 and that was like
00:17:29.140 the Canadian Human Rights Commission.
00:17:31.620 So we raised
00:17:32.740 a quarter of a million dollars
00:17:33.800 7,000 people.
00:17:34.840 I think the 7,000 people
00:17:36.620 is much more consequential
00:17:37.960 than the
00:17:38.420 quarter of a million.
00:17:39.540 So this is a crowd fund.
00:17:40.680 Crowd fund.
00:17:41.380 And it shows that
00:17:41.980 7,000 people have had enough
00:17:43.480 of this hate group
00:17:45.040 that randomly chooses
00:17:46.740 their opponents
00:17:47.300 and says
00:17:47.740 you're a hate group.
00:17:48.740 Hey Family Research Council
00:17:49.880 you're a hate group.
00:17:51.200 Which essentially means
00:17:52.340 hey psychos
00:17:53.180 go shoot up that place.
00:17:55.260 And they did.
00:17:55.920 Did you know that guy
00:17:56.760 who shot up
00:17:57.360 the Family Research Council
00:17:58.340 who by the way
00:17:59.280 was tackled by a black
00:18:00.720 security guard
00:18:01.360 who was shot.
00:18:02.820 You know he had
00:18:03.320 a backpack full of
00:18:04.280 Chick-fil-A sandwiches.
00:18:05.980 He had 15 Chick-fil-A sandwiches.
00:18:07.980 He was going to smear
00:18:08.740 in the face
00:18:09.180 of the dead bodies
00:18:10.540 that he killed.
00:18:12.020 That is a psycho.
00:18:13.240 And he wants to sue
00:18:14.360 the SPLC
00:18:14.920 because he's like
00:18:16.020 I'm mentally ill.
00:18:17.640 I'm a nut.
00:18:18.980 And you convinced me
00:18:20.140 that these guys
00:18:20.760 were a hate group.
00:18:22.360 It's true.
00:18:23.260 I mean
00:18:23.580 you know there's that
00:18:25.720 thought experiment
00:18:27.100 that it's an ethics
00:18:28.660 question
00:18:29.480 would you kill
00:18:31.580 baby Hitler
00:18:32.300 if he could go back
00:18:33.080 in time.
00:18:33.820 What if you
00:18:34.240 the time machine
00:18:34.920 breaks.
00:18:37.180 You're like
00:18:37.780 trust me
00:18:38.780 he was going to
00:18:39.720 become a mass murderer.
00:18:41.780 No but
00:18:42.080 whatever dude.
00:18:43.120 I mean
00:18:43.380 a lot of people
00:18:47.680 say yes
00:18:48.080 a lot of people
00:18:48.500 say no
00:18:48.960 but here's the thing
00:18:49.900 the assumption is
00:18:52.600 killing Hitler
00:18:53.880 will save lives.
00:18:55.520 Do you kill
00:18:56.140 a baby Hitler
00:18:56.940 who is not yet
00:18:58.460 a moral being
00:19:00.080 that's the ethics test
00:19:01.140 but the premise is
00:19:02.860 if you kill Hitler
00:19:04.320 you will save.
00:19:05.500 Correct.
00:19:06.020 So the premise
00:19:06.880 is accepted
00:19:07.440 the moral battle is
00:19:09.760 well do you become
00:19:11.000 a murderer
00:19:11.380 for an innocent baby.
00:19:13.060 But my point is
00:19:13.960 everyone agrees
00:19:15.160 in that thought experiment
00:19:16.020 that you will save lives.
00:19:17.160 That's the reason
00:19:17.840 it's a test.
00:19:19.280 If you tell
00:19:20.380 300 million plus
00:19:21.560 Americans
00:19:22.100 that someone
00:19:23.780 is a Nazi
00:19:24.820 maybe 250 million
00:19:28.860 will say
00:19:29.180 oh that's hyperbole
00:19:30.140 and maybe 20 million
00:19:31.380 will say
00:19:31.940 it's hyperbole
00:19:33.100 but I'm going to use it
00:19:33.940 because I believe
00:19:34.740 in this
00:19:35.340 ultra partisan
00:19:36.760 style of rhetorical combat.
00:19:38.960 But maybe
00:19:39.760 one in a thousand
00:19:41.740 people
00:19:42.280 will believe you
00:19:44.620 and say
00:19:45.960 correct
00:19:46.660 that's an actual Nazi
00:19:48.040 and a Nazi
00:19:48.840 is one thing
00:19:49.780 but
00:19:50.020 a Hitler
00:19:51.620 in the making.
00:19:52.680 I'll go further
00:19:53.300 with this Ezra.
00:19:54.060 they're aware of that.
00:19:56.100 They want us dead.
00:19:57.600 They are aware
00:19:58.580 that this hyperbole
00:19:59.820 puts our life in danger.
00:20:01.320 They know we're not Nazis
00:20:02.320 but they say it
00:20:03.360 because they want us dead.
00:20:04.420 They're childless.
00:20:05.660 They don't have kids.
00:20:07.160 They don't value life.
00:20:08.960 It's all a big video game
00:20:10.240 to them
00:20:10.620 and they're sitting there
00:20:11.740 trying to kill Ezra,
00:20:12.960 trying to kill Gavin.
00:20:13.800 You know the Dayton, Ohio guy?
00:20:15.300 He's an Antifa supporter,
00:20:16.960 Antifa member
00:20:17.580 who killed 10 people
00:20:19.880 in Dayton.
00:20:21.060 Many of them black
00:20:22.040 he called Faith Goldie
00:20:24.600 a Nazi.
00:20:25.220 He retweeted a tweet
00:20:26.720 that said Faith Goldie
00:20:27.420 was a Nazi.
00:20:28.300 So here is someone
00:20:29.680 who we now know
00:20:30.780 is a murderer.
00:20:32.400 He wants to murder people
00:20:33.720 and he thought Faith
00:20:34.540 was a Nazi.
00:20:35.700 Whoever called Faith
00:20:36.600 a Nazi
00:20:36.940 put her life in danger.
00:20:39.500 And actually led
00:20:41.180 to the deaths
00:20:41.700 probably
00:20:42.360 of those people
00:20:44.040 he killed.
00:20:44.400 This propaganda
00:20:45.020 kills people.
00:20:46.320 And the thing is
00:20:47.040 calling you a Nazi
00:20:48.700 or Faith a Nazi
00:20:49.720 is one thing
00:20:50.360 but when you call
00:20:51.040 the President
00:20:51.540 of the United States
00:20:52.240 a Nazi
00:20:52.620 see now that's
00:20:53.340 a different thing
00:20:53.820 because whether
00:20:55.380 you're crazy or not
00:20:56.400 you know that the President
00:20:57.100 of the United States
00:20:57.480 is a very powerful person.
00:20:59.040 So some guy on the street
00:21:00.280 you call him a Nazi
00:21:01.000 well I'll punch him
00:21:02.640 but if the President
00:21:03.740 of the United States
00:21:04.280 himself is a Nazi
00:21:04.980 you must assassinate him.
00:21:06.400 If I believe
00:21:07.320 that Donald Trump
00:21:07.940 was Hitler
00:21:08.360 and obviously I don't
00:21:09.560 if I truly believe that
00:21:10.980 would I not have
00:21:11.860 a moral obligation
00:21:12.660 to do anything I could
00:21:14.080 including risking
00:21:14.700 my own life to stop him.
00:21:15.440 Exactly.
00:21:15.520 Well they took that premise
00:21:16.620 which is a good premise
00:21:17.900 you should punch a Nazi.
00:21:20.460 You should punch someone
00:21:21.600 who is going to
00:21:22.960 kill six million Jews.
00:21:24.760 You should punch someone
00:21:25.700 That's punch a Hitler
00:21:26.000 but even the Nazis
00:21:26.960 just someone
00:21:27.480 there were millions
00:21:29.120 of Nazis
00:21:29.940 who didn't actually
00:21:31.140 themselves commit a murder
00:21:32.280 it was just an
00:21:32.860 Right but you should
00:21:33.800 punch them.
00:21:34.260 If it's 1943
00:21:35.720 you should punch a Nazi.
00:21:37.420 Yeah if you're in a
00:21:38.000 1943 I agree.
00:21:39.560 You know what I mean?
00:21:40.420 So they take a premise
00:21:41.360 like we shouldn't have
00:21:43.080 a World War III
00:21:43.800 if we see the bubbling
00:21:45.960 of the Fourth Reich
00:21:47.040 and we're going to have
00:21:48.100 another Nazi party
00:21:48.960 we should stop it.
00:21:49.960 That's true
00:21:50.560 and it's logical.
00:21:52.760 But they went
00:21:53.360 wow that was effective
00:21:54.540 people really hate Nazis.
00:21:56.120 Let me just take
00:21:56.940 this paint brush
00:21:57.980 and just go Nazi
00:21:59.640 over everything
00:22:00.420 I don't like
00:22:01.100 anything that makes
00:22:01.960 me uncomfortable
00:22:02.480 anything that challenges me
00:22:04.140 and now
00:22:05.380 they're all bad.
00:22:06.800 Well it's not
00:22:07.400 it went from
00:22:08.140 punch a Nazi
00:22:09.100 to anyone I punch
00:22:11.440 is a Nazi
00:22:12.840 to ex post facto
00:22:14.440 justify why
00:22:15.180 I punched them.
00:22:15.880 Why did you punch them?
00:22:18.100 Because if I punch you
00:22:19.700 you're a Nazi
00:22:20.940 and that's
00:22:22.080 I'm just going to use
00:22:22.740 It's just become a tool
00:22:23.740 that liars
00:22:24.300 you know in that
00:22:24.880 court case with Proud Boys
00:22:25.860 there was a black
00:22:26.880 conservative who was
00:22:27.560 on the stand
00:22:28.000 and he said
00:22:28.420 look I think
00:22:29.040 you got this all wrong
00:22:29.820 these guys are patriots
00:22:30.900 they're multiracial
00:22:31.720 blah blah blah
00:22:32.180 and the DA said to him
00:22:33.580 you know Gavin McInnes
00:22:35.160 yeah he started the group
00:22:35.980 yeah I know
00:22:36.400 do you think it's funny
00:22:38.360 that he called Obama
00:22:39.300 a monkey?
00:22:40.040 and the guy goes
00:22:42.060 well in that context
00:22:43.100 I don't find it very funny
00:22:43.960 no I never called Obama
00:22:45.280 a monkey
00:22:45.660 so this
00:22:47.140 this original premise
00:22:48.760 like stop racism
00:22:49.700 stop Nazis
00:22:50.360 has now just become
00:22:51.620 this magic wand
00:22:52.720 this Harry Potter thing
00:22:54.180 you can just aim
00:22:55.140 at all your enemies
00:22:56.000 and randomly make up stuff
00:22:57.680 I think the original premise
00:22:59.080 is correct
00:22:59.560 like Ron Coleman
00:23:00.780 was saying
00:23:01.400 five years ago
00:23:02.700 Twitter was kind of
00:23:03.760 an uncomfortable place to be
00:23:04.900 there was Holocaust deniers
00:23:06.680 and that tiny sliver
00:23:08.380 of the right
00:23:08.980 which is
00:23:10.320 the Pepe the Frog
00:23:11.540 shit posters
00:23:12.220 that have sort of
00:23:13.820 they're maybe
00:23:14.940 less than five percent
00:23:16.480 of everything right
00:23:17.960 of center
00:23:18.320 but they can really
00:23:19.540 pollute a conversation
00:23:20.540 and I've seen this
00:23:21.200 on internet
00:23:21.540 so then you block them
00:23:22.360 or mute them
00:23:22.740 you block them
00:23:23.260 and that was good
00:23:24.420 but then they went
00:23:25.600 they got kind of
00:23:26.380 drunk with power
00:23:27.100 and they went
00:23:28.380 wow that was fun
00:23:29.460 you're a Nazi
00:23:30.620 you're a Nazi
00:23:31.180 you're a Nazi
00:23:31.720 there was this moment
00:23:33.320 a golden age
00:23:34.060 of free speech
00:23:34.820 on the internet
00:23:35.440 YouTube
00:23:36.420 Twitter
00:23:36.940 Facebook
00:23:37.440 you could do
00:23:37.940 and say anything
00:23:38.540 you could even
00:23:39.060 make money off it
00:23:39.860 I think that's
00:23:41.640 I think that's over
00:23:42.580 and I think
00:23:43.960 with that being over
00:23:45.840 it's not just
00:23:47.060 in social media
00:23:47.900 that's what you
00:23:48.760 talked about
00:23:49.240 I think journalists
00:23:50.400 themselves
00:23:50.720 let me tell you
00:23:51.120 another anecdote
00:23:51.640 in 2006
00:23:54.280 I published
00:23:55.820 the Danish cartoons
00:23:56.660 of Mohammed
00:23:57.180 yep
00:23:57.640 that's when I fell
00:23:58.740 in love with you
00:23:59.260 and
00:24:00.400 because you had
00:24:00.960 that awesome quote
00:24:01.740 where the government
00:24:02.720 said what was your
00:24:03.700 impetus
00:24:04.120 what were you thinking
00:24:04.960 publishing those cartoons
00:24:06.560 and you said
00:24:06.960 if we were friends
00:24:07.820 and we were in a bar
00:24:08.460 I would tell you honestly
00:24:09.520 but you're the government
00:24:10.720 it's none of your business
00:24:11.720 what I was thinking
00:24:12.460 well thank you for reminding me
00:24:14.300 that and that's the right approach
00:24:15.260 I mean
00:24:15.800 when the government says
00:24:17.320 how dare you think that
00:24:18.420 or why are you thinking that
00:24:20.380 well you can't
00:24:21.060 you can't indulge them
00:24:22.240 but let me
00:24:23.100 let me say that
00:24:24.140 in 2006, 7, 8
00:24:25.300 when my case was going through
00:24:26.500 the vast majority of journalists
00:24:29.240 supported me
00:24:29.780 I know that not just anecdotal
00:24:30.940 from the 100 interviews I did
00:24:32.680 99 of them were positive
00:24:33.780 but a pollster
00:24:35.980 called Compass
00:24:36.680 did a survey
00:24:37.980 of working journalists
00:24:38.920 like called
00:24:39.620 hundreds
00:24:40.280 and 70%
00:24:41.940 of working journalists
00:24:42.700 not only thought
00:24:43.320 that I should do it
00:24:44.220 but their own
00:24:45.260 that every media outlet
00:24:46.960 should have published
00:24:47.500 those cartoons
00:24:48.060 so 70% of journalists
00:24:49.960 said we all have to have that
00:24:50.800 I'm Spartacus
00:24:51.480 I'm Spartacus
00:24:52.240 that was in 19
00:24:53.640 that was in 2008
00:24:54.940 that that survey was done
00:24:56.120 here we are
00:24:57.300 barely a decade later
00:24:58.600 and I put it to you
00:25:00.080 that at least 70%
00:25:02.540 of working journalists
00:25:03.340 would say
00:25:03.840 not only will I not
00:25:06.200 publish those Danish cartoons
00:25:07.440 but no one else
00:25:08.640 should either
00:25:09.180 so it's absolutely correct
00:25:10.600 it's a journalistic culture
00:25:12.220 journalists themselves
00:25:13.340 no longer believe in
00:25:14.360 journalism
00:25:15.140 or reporting
00:25:16.060 let alone holding
00:25:16.940 a debate with two sides
00:25:18.040 they believe in
00:25:19.160 outing
00:25:19.720 shaming
00:25:20.260 shutting up
00:25:21.520 deplatforming
00:25:22.340 narrowing the bandwidth
00:25:23.400 free speech
00:25:23.860 doesn't include
00:25:24.400 hate speech
00:25:24.920 as far as they're concerned
00:25:25.780 that's what they say
00:25:26.380 and as if
00:25:27.260 as if suddenly
00:25:28.760 adding an emotion
00:25:29.640 to your conversation
00:25:31.240 makes it illegal
00:25:32.420 I think
00:25:33.340 what happened
00:25:34.260 was
00:25:34.800 this
00:25:35.880 when I went
00:25:37.540 to university
00:25:38.240 it was
00:25:38.620 I started in 88
00:25:39.440 I was out in the early 90s
00:25:40.880 and I knew
00:25:42.020 when I was leaving
00:25:42.600 Carleton University
00:25:43.480 that
00:25:44.520 education was about
00:25:46.560 to be flushed
00:25:47.180 down the toilet
00:25:47.740 CKCU
00:25:49.240 was the
00:25:50.400 started by Dan Aykroyd
00:25:51.760 by the way
00:25:52.180 was the local radio station
00:25:54.300 and when I was there
00:25:55.180 there was like
00:25:55.960 the punk hour
00:25:57.100 and the country music hour
00:25:58.340 and it was all
00:25:59.040 divided by music
00:25:59.800 as I was leaving
00:26:00.900 it was like
00:26:01.440 aboriginal talk
00:26:02.540 and the Papua New Guinean hour
00:26:04.260 and what do the Aztecs
00:26:05.740 think of China
00:26:06.480 and it was all
00:26:07.260 multiculturalism
00:26:08.140 and those people
00:26:10.480 the mid-90s students
00:26:12.960 have graduated
00:26:14.160 and gotten jobs now
00:26:16.380 and they're getting power
00:26:18.320 they're in their 30s
00:26:20.540 and they've infiltrated
00:26:22.980 not just academia
00:26:24.820 but they've infiltrated
00:26:26.200 journalism
00:26:26.900 and they've infiltrated
00:26:28.360 the court system
00:26:29.640 so you will see
00:26:31.460 a DA
00:26:32.420 in New York City
00:26:33.720 wearing a kafaya
00:26:35.100 with a lip ring
00:26:35.960 and using weird pronouns
00:26:37.880 like she, they
00:26:38.900 in fact one of them
00:26:40.360 just got
00:26:40.820 the Antifa guy
00:26:42.280 Caleb Perkins
00:26:43.220 she got him out of jail
00:26:44.280 for beating the crap
00:26:45.060 out of a cop
00:26:45.660 so I think what happened
00:26:47.880 from 2008
00:26:48.880 in the past 10 years
00:26:50.040 the kids who were polluted
00:26:52.740 in college
00:26:53.480 in the mid-90s
00:26:54.420 have finally accrued power
00:26:56.000 and they are wreaking
00:26:58.100 havoc on society
00:26:59.200 you know it's funny
00:26:59.760 I had forgotten
00:27:00.880 until you just said it
00:27:01.700 that when I was
00:27:02.240 at University of Calvary
00:27:03.020 I had a radio show
00:27:03.840 and I was just as right-wing
00:27:05.320 back then as I am now
00:27:06.400 the idea that a
00:27:07.600 right-wing pundit
00:27:08.580 could have an hour
00:27:09.840 a week
00:27:10.380 on a campus radio show
00:27:12.620 is unthinkable
00:27:14.100 it's unthinkable
00:27:15.320 even people who hated
00:27:16.300 conservatives back then
00:27:17.320 it was like
00:27:18.480 almost an affectionate disdain
00:27:20.580 like Michael P. Keaton
00:27:21.720 on the show
00:27:22.640 Family Ties
00:27:23.400 right
00:27:24.020 it was like
00:27:24.420 oh great
00:27:25.260 that guy loves Reagan
00:27:26.740 what will we think of next
00:27:28.820 that's exactly
00:27:29.460 what it was like
00:27:30.020 today if you love Trump
00:27:31.700 you want trans people
00:27:33.320 to die
00:27:33.940 and the answer
00:27:35.920 and debate
00:27:37.020 I'll never debate you
00:27:38.360 oh I wouldn't give
00:27:38.900 a Nazi a platform
00:27:39.900 yeah
00:27:40.280 and it's funny
00:27:41.700 because I mean
00:27:42.240 I remember
00:27:42.720 all the debates we had
00:27:44.020 in university
00:27:45.060 the different parties
00:27:46.740 the different
00:27:47.420 and there was
00:27:48.340 and frankly
00:27:49.240 we all shared an office
00:27:50.360 and we were
00:27:51.220 I didn't even think of it
00:27:53.000 as being forced to get along
00:27:53.940 we just did
00:27:54.720 and so I'm not talking
00:27:56.480 about ancient history
00:27:57.160 okay that's 20 years ago
00:27:58.100 25 years ago
00:27:58.860 but that's not
00:28:00.160 that long ago
00:28:01.160 now
00:28:01.740 you literally
00:28:03.060 will get punched
00:28:04.000 just for wearing
00:28:04.600 a Trump hat
00:28:05.180 yeah it just happened
00:28:06.300 two days ago
00:28:06.980 in Portland
00:28:07.400 a guy got mobbed
00:28:09.180 wearing a MAGA hat
00:28:10.480 walking down the street
00:28:11.400 that's what I'm trying to do
00:28:12.320 with freespeech.tv
00:28:13.440 I'm trying to bring
00:28:14.680 liberals and conservatives
00:28:15.920 together
00:28:16.380 dude it's a chore
00:28:18.260 yeah
00:28:19.300 it's very expensive
00:28:20.340 and once they
00:28:23.040 I finally get them
00:28:23.900 and I do it right over there
00:28:24.760 once I finally get them together
00:28:26.360 they disagree on
00:28:28.860 the environment
00:28:29.580 they disagree on
00:28:32.380 Trump
00:28:33.200 they have
00:28:33.620 one side has no faith in them
00:28:35.220 the other wants to give them
00:28:36.220 a chance
00:28:36.700 the rest is basic
00:28:38.660 some of the immigration
00:28:40.360 but when you get into
00:28:41.220 the nuts and bolts
00:28:41.880 they don't really have
00:28:42.640 they just think it's mean
00:28:43.800 that they're being detained
00:28:45.580 basically
00:28:46.340 but they all agree
00:28:48.160 that the prison system
00:28:49.700 is out of control
00:28:50.740 in America
00:28:51.180 it needs to be fixed
00:28:52.100 they are totally open
00:28:53.960 to the idea
00:28:55.080 that you know
00:28:56.120 America's past
00:28:57.140 has done serious damage
00:28:58.700 to visible minorities
00:28:59.840 it's amazing
00:29:00.980 how much we have in common
00:29:01.740 but the media
00:29:02.460 and politicians
00:29:04.300 have a vested interest
00:29:05.860 in polarizing us
00:29:07.000 and they're doing
00:29:07.860 an excellent job
00:29:09.020 and one of the ways
00:29:09.680 they do it
00:29:10.220 is by banning
00:29:11.460 you, me, Tommy Robinson
00:29:13.180 from social media
00:29:14.140 so they can conjure up
00:29:16.180 this wild Nazi narrative
00:29:17.940 and you can't go
00:29:18.960 that's not true
00:29:19.840 I wasn't even there
00:29:20.720 you know
00:29:21.800 the idea that we're all
00:29:24.060 in our silos
00:29:25.040 and we only
00:29:25.580 Republicans and conservatives
00:29:26.880 only listen to
00:29:27.560 Republicans and conservatives
00:29:28.540 and liberals
00:29:28.960 only listen to liberals
00:29:29.780 I don't believe that
00:29:31.180 because I'm a conservative guy
00:29:32.920 I grew up in a very
00:29:33.600 conservative city in Canada
00:29:34.720 called Calgary
00:29:35.360 all my friends
00:29:36.520 were conservatives
00:29:37.060 all the time
00:29:37.820 and yet I am as soaked
00:29:39.580 in liberal narratives
00:29:40.960 as anyone
00:29:41.760 because I watch TV
00:29:42.800 I watch movies
00:29:43.720 I listen to the radio
00:29:44.600 and pop songs
00:29:45.260 If you check Twitter moments
00:29:46.820 you get a pretty good metric
00:29:48.600 of the left
00:29:49.220 Yeah, so
00:29:49.940 there is no place
00:29:51.440 for a conservative
00:29:52.120 to hide
00:29:53.040 from the other side
00:29:54.440 but there are people
00:29:55.620 who live their entire lives
00:29:57.640 never having met
00:29:59.420 a Christian conservative
00:30:01.960 a conservative of any sort
00:30:03.300 a blue collar person
00:30:05.200 and Charles Murray
00:30:06.580 wrote a book called
00:30:07.260 Coming Apart
00:30:08.120 Great book
00:30:08.860 it prophesized all of this
00:30:10.080 by the way
00:30:10.400 where he talked about
00:30:11.240 in some ways
00:30:13.180 it's wonderful
00:30:13.760 it talks about
00:30:14.340 the mobility of America
00:30:15.620 self-selecting
00:30:17.180 that there's certain
00:30:18.020 high income
00:30:19.080 high IQ
00:30:19.960 postal codes
00:30:21.660 or zip codes
00:30:22.400 where
00:30:22.660 you know
00:30:23.320 in Manhattan
00:30:23.920 in Hollywood
00:30:24.660 all these high achievers
00:30:25.880 sort of
00:30:27.100 agglomerate together
00:30:28.240 they go to schools
00:30:28.900 with each other
00:30:29.320 they marry each other
00:30:30.160 and it's a clique
00:30:31.240 and it's a testament
00:30:33.780 to mobility
00:30:34.360 but those people
00:30:35.840 live in a bubble
00:30:36.400 and he has this
00:30:36.980 amazing quiz
00:30:37.880 which I've shown
00:30:38.920 several times
00:30:39.580 you can take the quiz
00:30:40.640 on the PBS website
00:30:41.620 it asks questions
00:30:43.080 how thick is your bubble
00:30:43.940 it asks you
00:30:44.440 when was the last time
00:30:45.640 you
00:30:46.300 have been on a factory floor
00:30:48.720 factory floor
00:30:49.640 did you see
00:30:50.400 the Transformers movie
00:30:51.480 do you drink Budweiser
00:30:53.500 all of these normal
00:30:55.120 American questions
00:30:56.540 Applebee's
00:30:57.360 or a chain like that
00:30:58.240 what does
00:31:00.320 I mean they
00:31:01.180 they test
00:31:02.020 it's very important
00:31:03.480 to be a chatterbox
00:31:04.880 have you ever
00:31:06.260 worn a uniform
00:31:07.180 have you ever been
00:31:09.940 in a parade
00:31:10.360 other than a gay pride parade
00:31:11.360 that's why
00:31:12.300 I was talking
00:31:12.620 to that guy downstairs
00:31:13.360 who talked about
00:31:13.860 Baltimore
00:31:14.200 that you didn't want
00:31:14.700 to talk to
00:31:15.060 every cab driver
00:31:16.900 I talk his ear off
00:31:18.160 every time I buy a pencil
00:31:19.780 I say how's business
00:31:20.880 I want to know people
00:31:22.920 I love people
00:31:23.800 and you know
00:31:24.580 there's some great questions
00:31:25.680 have you ever come home
00:31:26.740 from work
00:31:27.160 and you're physically sore
00:31:29.780 right
00:31:30.920 I mean all these people
00:31:32.440 who are labour activists
00:31:33.660 like the left
00:31:34.800 in both Canada
00:31:35.460 and the United States
00:31:36.060 it's not the labour left
00:31:37.680 it's the campus left
00:31:40.160 it's the professor
00:31:41.560 and activist left
00:31:42.540 they don't know
00:31:43.340 about hard work
00:31:44.080 they hate guys
00:31:45.760 who work hard
00:31:46.540 hard hats
00:31:47.500 steal
00:31:48.160 it's not just work
00:31:49.240 like when I was in a band
00:31:50.440 and I was in Vice
00:31:52.200 and I was single
00:31:52.780 I was so popular
00:31:54.660 that I would come home
00:31:55.360 when my genitals
00:31:56.000 would be sore
00:31:56.600 it was strenuous
00:31:59.880 I gotta come back
00:32:00.540 but I'm not gonna say it
00:32:02.600 okay so you were
00:32:04.300 drummed out of CRTV
00:32:05.520 for political correctness
00:32:07.740 you were just too hot
00:32:08.980 they harassed
00:32:11.020 every single
00:32:11.640 so after the merger
00:32:12.580 it was in the news
00:32:13.400 and this is your term
00:32:15.780 the swarm of bees
00:32:17.420 just attacked
00:32:19.120 every single employee
00:32:21.020 the accounts person
00:32:23.040 everyone
00:32:23.380 they'll call this
00:32:25.860 the free market
00:32:26.460 it's not
00:32:26.880 it's a mob
00:32:27.660 and the mob
00:32:29.540 attacked so many employees
00:32:31.000 that some of them went
00:32:31.560 really?
00:32:32.900 he's a Nazi?
00:32:34.460 and eventually
00:32:35.980 that made it
00:32:36.580 to the top brass
00:32:37.280 and they said
00:32:37.720 this is too risky
00:32:39.060 we gotta get out of here
00:32:39.980 I think they regret it now
00:32:42.140 in fact
00:32:42.840 I think they might want to
00:32:43.960 buy freespeech.tv
00:32:44.940 but that ship has sailed
00:32:46.340 but once you're
00:32:49.640 once you're defined as a pariah
00:32:52.680 in this mob era
00:32:54.780 even your allies
00:32:56.880 can't help you
00:32:57.500 yeah
00:32:57.740 you know
00:32:58.460 it's funny you say that
00:32:59.360 because when I was
00:32:59.900 if Rebel rehired me
00:33:01.740 during that time
00:33:03.040 you guys would have
00:33:04.320 been harassed
00:33:05.080 your accounts person
00:33:06.820 would have been
00:33:07.740 you know
00:33:08.320 tormented
00:33:09.840 terrorized
00:33:10.580 what's funny is
00:33:11.380 when I was at the
00:33:11.940 Sun News Network
00:33:12.440 I had a lot more
00:33:13.320 of that kind of harassment
00:33:14.380 because they were
00:33:15.740 trying to drive a wedge
00:33:16.560 between me
00:33:17.240 and the company
00:33:18.020 I worked for
00:33:18.520 at the Rebel
00:33:19.520 we don't really get
00:33:21.220 that harassment
00:33:21.720 because who's
00:33:22.480 the boss
00:33:23.060 who's the board of directors
00:33:23.960 who's the CEO
00:33:24.760 who's going to step in
00:33:25.920 and say
00:33:26.240 Ezra enough
00:33:27.580 we just can't handle
00:33:28.380 I mean I suppose
00:33:29.000 staff might leave
00:33:30.220 if they felt
00:33:30.980 overly harassed
00:33:31.940 but in a way
00:33:33.380 being purely independent
00:33:34.460 takes away a pressure point
00:33:36.160 that's why big companies
00:33:37.360 roll over so quickly
00:33:38.720 because there's so many
00:33:39.820 pressure points
00:33:40.360 any company in retail
00:33:41.480 can never advertise
00:33:42.920 on a Fox
00:33:43.460 or something like that
00:33:44.420 they'll be smoking
00:33:44.920 that's what I did
00:33:45.640 we did a free speech rally
00:33:47.000 in DC
00:33:47.500 and I directed it
00:33:49.340 at the right
00:33:50.280 and I said
00:33:51.500 it was directed at Blaze
00:33:52.980 but it was also directed
00:33:54.040 at all these companies
00:33:54.740 that fire someone
00:33:55.880 the second they get
00:33:56.960 an angry tweet
00:33:57.680 or a phone call
00:33:58.580 because you're getting
00:33:59.020 a phone call
00:33:59.500 from Antifa
00:34:00.120 by the way
00:34:00.660 you're not getting
00:34:01.440 a phone call
00:34:01.980 from Ezra Levent's wife
00:34:04.000 and by the way
00:34:04.980 when they're threatening
00:34:05.880 to boycott Chick-fil-A
00:34:07.580 they were never going there
00:34:09.120 they were never going there
00:34:09.860 so tell them to fuck off
00:34:11.560 hang up the phone
00:34:12.580 stop being such a pussy
00:34:14.060 when they're boycotting
00:34:15.400 Dick's sporting goods
00:34:16.200 they weren't going
00:34:17.480 hunting and fishing
00:34:18.180 to begin with
00:34:18.800 exactly
00:34:20.800 like the right
00:34:22.360 is so bad
00:34:23.620 at fighting
00:34:24.260 they're so apt
00:34:26.040 to capitulate
00:34:26.660 and a good example too
00:34:27.920 is like take Hannity
00:34:28.920 for example
00:34:29.520 I remember when
00:34:30.620 John Stewart was
00:34:31.160 making fun of him
00:34:31.840 for his
00:34:32.300 Hannity was worried
00:34:33.360 about spring break
00:34:34.140 he said it's dangerous
00:34:35.300 it's not fun anymore
00:34:36.100 girls are getting raped
00:34:37.280 Hannity was right
00:34:38.560 and someone got murdered
00:34:40.040 soon after
00:34:40.620 he was warning everyone
00:34:41.680 John Stewart's take
00:34:43.120 was
00:34:43.880 look at Hannity
00:34:45.080 he hates partying
00:34:46.240 and Fox News
00:34:47.840 was worried about it
00:34:49.000 they go
00:34:49.420 uh oh
00:34:49.880 John Stewart's
00:34:51.600 making fun of us
00:34:52.240 this is really blowing up
00:34:53.540 we're getting letters
00:34:54.440 and they care
00:34:56.300 about that controversy
00:34:57.120 if Hannity made fun
00:34:58.780 of John Stewart
00:34:59.500 the idea of John Stewart
00:35:01.080 going uh oh
00:35:01.900 Fox News is really
00:35:03.260 on my tail
00:35:04.440 like the left
00:35:05.480 laughs off
00:35:06.360 our outrage
00:35:07.400 but we poop our panties
00:35:09.640 when we're in trouble
00:35:11.440 and that's why I say
00:35:12.440 at the end of my show
00:35:13.060 every episode I say
00:35:14.020 get fired
00:35:15.240 get in trouble
00:35:16.300 be brave
00:35:17.300 and never stop fighting
00:35:18.600 well look
00:35:20.180 you're a Canadian originally
00:35:21.080 but you've been in the land
00:35:22.440 of the First Amendment
00:35:23.140 and it's tough enough
00:35:24.260 down here
00:35:24.840 but in Canada
00:35:25.820 we don't even have
00:35:26.600 the First Amendment
00:35:27.260 can I interrupt you
00:35:28.060 yeah
00:35:28.300 it's exactly the same
00:35:29.600 here in America
00:35:31.200 the First Amendment
00:35:32.500 is actually good
00:35:33.480 with the government
00:35:34.380 if a case makes it
00:35:35.580 to a judge
00:35:36.740 he will usually
00:35:37.820 err on the side
00:35:38.360 of free speech
00:35:38.920 so the actual system
00:35:40.260 itself is good
00:35:41.100 that's meaningless
00:35:42.120 because there's a swarm
00:35:43.320 of bees down here
00:35:44.180 the mob
00:35:44.800 so I still get fired
00:35:46.360 my kids still get
00:35:47.540 terrorized
00:35:48.480 you get Facebook
00:35:49.040 to your platform
00:35:49.500 my car still gets
00:35:50.420 vandalized
00:35:51.140 I still get doxxed
00:35:52.020 so I still suffer
00:35:53.260 all the consequences
00:35:54.260 of the tyranny
00:35:56.500 it's just not
00:35:57.160 a governmental tyranny
00:35:58.080 now in Canada
00:35:58.900 you have a
00:35:59.520 governmental tyranny
00:36:01.260 if that's a word
00:36:01.900 governmental
00:36:02.360 so but at the end
00:36:04.920 of the day
00:36:05.360 the Canadian
00:36:06.540 and the American
00:36:07.020 they're both fired
00:36:07.940 they're both unsafe
00:36:09.400 at home
00:36:09.920 they both have to
00:36:10.720 have a shotgun
00:36:11.480 you know
00:36:12.520 we're both
00:36:13.480 in danger
00:36:14.860 yeah
00:36:15.420 well
00:36:16.840 how's it going
00:36:18.960 to end
00:36:19.320 I mean
00:36:19.820 are we going
00:36:21.100 to break through it
00:36:21.760 I mean
00:36:22.000 earlier today
00:36:22.540 you and I
00:36:22.820 were talking
00:36:23.200 about a comedian
00:36:24.320 named Dave Chappelle
00:36:25.160 who is a black comedian
00:36:27.440 who you would think
00:36:28.300 that would give him
00:36:28.880 some politically correct
00:36:29.920 you know
00:36:32.120 bulletproof vest
00:36:33.200 but holy moly
00:36:34.860 are they going after him
00:36:36.260 the liberal guardians
00:36:37.160 of comedy
00:36:37.760 denouncing his Netflix show
00:36:39.380 I've seen a few clips
00:36:40.260 of it
00:36:40.420 it looks pretty funny
00:36:41.020 to me
00:36:41.380 Dave Chappelle
00:36:42.320 is Spartacus
00:36:43.060 is he going to be
00:36:44.340 well
00:36:44.620 is he going to lose
00:36:45.360 his head
00:36:45.700 he can afford it
00:36:47.420 he can
00:36:48.340 you can chop his head
00:36:49.540 off
00:36:49.680 he'll put it right there
00:36:50.540 but I mean
00:36:51.360 will Netflix
00:36:52.200 fire their star
00:36:53.440 will they take down
00:36:54.240 his show
00:36:54.720 nope
00:36:55.160 he's too big
00:36:56.120 he's too effective
00:36:57.180 the show is too popular
00:36:58.300 and the beauty
00:36:59.500 of Dave Chappelle
00:37:00.120 is
00:37:00.580 he did this
00:37:02.020 genius special
00:37:02.940 that took no prisoners
00:37:03.980 as comedy should
00:37:04.960 and the quality
00:37:07.120 is so fucking high
00:37:09.500 if he had taken
00:37:10.740 no prisoners
00:37:11.220 and it was slightly
00:37:12.460 half-assed
00:37:13.140 then it would be
00:37:14.840 like a wounded animal
00:37:16.020 at the edge
00:37:16.520 of the flock
00:37:17.140 and the wolves
00:37:17.980 would prey on him
00:37:18.560 he is the alpha
00:37:19.720 at the head
00:37:20.680 of the pack
00:37:21.580 and he delivered
00:37:22.940 a perfect comedy special
00:37:24.580 that defended
00:37:25.840 offensive content
00:37:27.480 and I really think
00:37:28.960 it's a ray of hope
00:37:29.740 because politics
00:37:31.000 is downstream
00:37:31.440 from culture
00:37:32.100 and youth culture
00:37:33.320 is at the head
00:37:34.080 of culture
00:37:34.620 so he's the head
00:37:35.740 of youth culture
00:37:36.340 today
00:37:36.860 and he said
00:37:38.080 screw it
00:37:38.640 I'm mad as hell
00:37:39.500 and I'm not going
00:37:40.000 to take it anymore
00:37:40.660 and he showed them
00:37:41.880 how important it is
00:37:42.900 that we stay offensive
00:37:44.240 and we stay uncomfortable
00:37:45.400 and that is a game changer
00:37:47.260 this could be
00:37:48.280 the tipping point
00:37:49.400 well
00:37:50.260 you certainly
00:37:51.400 say that eloquently
00:37:53.200 I'm not persuaded
00:37:54.740 but I'm glad
00:37:55.640 you're hopeful
00:37:56.220 listen my friend
00:37:57.760 way to take the zing
00:37:59.120 out of my ending
00:37:59.820 listen I've been around
00:38:01.180 this censorship block
00:38:02.180 a few too many times
00:38:03.240 you know it's exhausting
00:38:04.360 and it's harrowing
00:38:05.380 and it's hard
00:38:06.380 on your marriage
00:38:06.940 and it's hard
00:38:07.360 on your kids lives
00:38:08.560 and all this stuff
00:38:09.480 and of course
00:38:10.520 being fired sucks
00:38:11.520 it's murder on your bank account
00:38:12.600 but I remember talking to Tommy
00:38:14.280 last time I was down there
00:38:15.500 I stayed with him
00:38:16.080 and he goes
00:38:17.000 you know you get threatened
00:38:18.300 you're worried about getting killed
00:38:19.440 and you're worried about
00:38:20.180 all the threats
00:38:20.800 and then you eventually
00:38:22.560 you reach a point
00:38:23.320 where you realize
00:38:23.860 if I'm going to die
00:38:25.020 I'm going to die
00:38:25.500 if I'm not going to die
00:38:26.080 I'm not going to die
00:38:26.660 and it's sort of
00:38:27.520 this cathartic release
00:38:28.720 where you just go
00:38:30.160 fuck it
00:38:30.660 let's do this
00:38:31.560 and I've reached that point
00:38:34.020 not that I'm in
00:38:35.360 Tommy Robertson's league
00:38:36.260 but I've reached that point
00:38:37.440 in my life
00:38:37.860 where I go
00:38:38.240 let's go
00:38:39.400 you want to go
00:38:40.180 let's do this
00:38:41.140 yeah
00:38:41.560 oh they're so far gone there
00:38:43.060 I think that's the only approach to have
00:38:44.680 well Gavin
00:38:45.480 it's great to see you
00:38:46.200 and good luck
00:38:46.940 and tell me one more time
00:38:48.040 the website of your new show
00:38:49.760 very simple
00:38:50.480 freespeech.tv
00:38:52.440 it's easy to remember
00:38:53.680 and it describes what it is
00:38:54.940 it's a good start
00:38:56.220 I just subscribed today
00:38:57.300 you convinced me
00:38:57.920 thank you
00:38:58.220 I'm a little disappointed
00:38:58.940 it wasn't as easy
00:38:59.740 I've got to make the subscribe button
00:39:01.040 a little bigger
00:39:01.800 it was pretty easy
00:39:02.460 it took me a minute to figure it out
00:39:03.680 well listen
00:39:04.200 great to see you
00:39:04.880 in your natural habitat
00:39:05.820 of New York City
00:39:06.700 and I'll wrap up the show there
00:39:08.180 obviously I don't have any letters
00:39:09.220 with me today
00:39:09.820 but from here in New York
00:39:12.280 with my friend Gavin
00:39:13.120 to you at home
00:39:14.020 around the world
00:39:14.620 good night
00:39:15.500 and keep fighting for freedom
00:39:17.200 I'll see you next time
00:39:20.600 I'll see you next time
00:39:21.700 you