Special guest! Rebel News reporter Drea Humphrey on Black Lives Matter, COVID-19 and more
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In this episode, we have an in-depth conversation with one of our newest Rebel colleagues, Drea Humphrey. She talks about Black Lives Matter, what it's like to be a Black conservative, and the things she wants to focus on here at Rebel News.
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Hello Rebels, you're listening to a free audio-only recording of my weekly Wednesday night show,
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The Gun Show. My guest tonight is our new Vancouver-based colleague, Drea Humphrey,
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and she's talking about Black Lives Matter, what it's like to be a black conservative,
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and the things that she would like to focus on here at Rebel News. Now, if you like listening
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Today, we have an in-depth conversation with one of our newest Rebels, Drea Humphrey. I'm
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Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
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You know, I might, might be just a little self-serving when I say that you don't need to be a classically
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trained journalist to do journalism. It's not a school that you graduate from or an exclusive
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guild that your competitors let you join. In fact, I think the only rebel on-air talent
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that actually went to journalism school is David Menzies, and I'm not so sure he got his money's
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worth. I didn't go to journalism school. Ezra didn't go to journalism school, and he founded
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Canada's largest independent news network. Kian didn't go to journalism school. Andrew Chapados,
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he's not gone to journalism school. Neither has our new Vancouver-based colleague, Drea Humphrey,
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and I think that's probably to her credit. I like to say we're news for the normals, by the normals.
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I like to ask questions and cover stories that I know families like mine are curious about or care
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about as opposed to what the mainstream media tells us we should care about from their comfortable
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cubicles in Toronto or Ottawa. Now, Drea's been with us for a few weeks now, and I want to learn
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a little more about her, and I think you'd like to learn a little more about her too and the things
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that she cares about and the things that she'll be focusing on. And so I thought, why not have her
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on the show to do just that? Now, the interview I recorded with Drea, I'm going to be honest. It's not
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my usual studio quality recording. It was a simple Skype conversation between her and I
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over this past long weekend, both of us taking time out of our long weekends with our family
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to do a little work. So please look past the framing and the audio of it all. And please
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enjoy this interview I recorded with Drea this past Sunday when she was at her home in Vancouver
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So joining me now from her home in Vancouver is one of my newest Rebel colleagues, quickly
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becoming one of my favorites, Drea Humphrey. You know what? This is how I know if the other
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guys watch my show. I'll at least know they're watching my work. Drea, I'm glad to have you
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on the show. This is the first time you've been on my show. I know you've been on David's
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show, Rebel Roundup, a little bit. The first thing I wanted to talk to you about, and I guess
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it's kind of the obvious, you're a Black woman. You're a Black woman who's conservative, and
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you are very critical of BLM. How did you end up being critical of this movement that
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says Black Lives Matter, and so I guess everyone must support it?
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Well, I'm glad you called me Black because Joe Biden sure as heck wouldn't. I think it
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just came down to how I was raised, and I was raised to treat people as equals, and that's
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how I've always wanted to be treated. So as soon as I see any group, doesn't matter what
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it is, that's, in my opinion, actually telling Black people that they can't achieve as much
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things or that you're sort of limited or you're in some kind of box simply because of the color
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of your skin, that's not really something that was resonating with me nicely. And then
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the more that I looked into the organization, the more I looked into what the leaders were
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saying, I found a lot of what some of the leaders were saying as racist. And I know that they seem
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to not acknowledge that you can be racist against white people, but saying things like,
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prevent me or Lord, help me not to kill white people. I mean, quote unquote, it's not exactly
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the same way, but basically, I mean, that's not something that I'm for. I love people of all skin
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tones. And so to have the leaders, the founders speaking like this, and then, you know, then I
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learned that they're self-proclaimed Marxists. And I'm like, whoa, you know, that's totally not what
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I stand for. So, you know, the more that I just really looked into it, and I wish other people would
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really look into it, I realized, number one, they're not talking about the what seems like the primary
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concerns, as far as the most immediate threat, to if we take it to the Floyd situation to black Americans,
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if we start there, and we look there, you know, they're not addressing black on black crime, they're not
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addressing the family life, they're not acknowledging that there was some changes with the second act, when
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Trump signed that, that helped actually, you know, keep people back in their homes, take them out of the
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prisons for a long time. So it's just such a mess. And even when I look at the
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Canadian Black Lives Matter, and they want to abolish the police, I mean, none of these things I
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stand for. So yeah, I don't stand for Black Lives Matter. You know, it's funny, because these people
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who support Black Lives Matter, and it's so often a bunch of virtue signaling upper middle class white
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kids, with the black Instagram posts, and they're advocating for fewer cops in black and marginal
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communities. And that's how gangs overtake black communities. But they don't have to deal with
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those bad policy ideas, because they're living in a fancy neighborhood somewhere else. And they've
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never been touched by the problems plaguing minority communities, especially in Toronto.
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Yeah, I don't know if you saw any of the videos on Twitter and stuff of a lot of white people in the
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name of Black Lives Matter going to black areas and vandalizing the areas and wrecking the the
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businesses, the black owned businesses in the areas in the name of Black Lives Matter. So I don't know
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what's going on. I've got a video coming up, where today I was just, I'm black and indigenous, and I was
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booted off of a public park for not, I don't know, I don't know, you guys will have to wait and see, but
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basically by indigenous people. So I'm starting to feel like it's less about the color of your skin
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and more about if you agree with the left or not. I'm starting to really see that that's kind of what
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it is for a lot of the things happening right now in general. Yeah, it truly is about politics,
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because, and it's, it's about progressive politics and Marxism, and the abolishment of the
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family. We saw just a couple of days ago, some white, and I think African, or black, and may I,
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I mean, they're just pro-life activists is what they were. Let's not even put a label on what they
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were. They were pro-life activists. They went to a planned parenthood, because they tend to plunk these
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things in minority neighborhoods, because I guess the left thinks it's better off not to be born at
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all than to be born poor. And they painted on the ground, black baby lives matter. And those pro-life
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activists were arrested. And all they're saying is black babies deserve to be born too. And they're
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taken away in handcuffs, yet you can vandalize everything with BLM, hashtag BLM, spray painted on
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somebody's property, loot their stores, and you're free. They don't arrest you. Exactly. And I hate to
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use Kanye West as an example, but I mean, he's everywhere right now. But you know, they're,
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they're really attacking him for, for getting emotional about how his daughter was almost aborted,
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and how that resonates with him. And he's really sad about it. And they're just making them sound
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like that's a crazy statement. And whether you're pro-life or, or not, I think you should be able to
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comprehend the fact that he has a daughter that wouldn't be here. And you know, that's emotional
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for him. I don't see why that's crazy there. So, you know, there's just nothing illogical right now
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about the far left. I can't connect the dots. So help me God. Yeah. And they did like, you did a
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really fantastic interview, um, the other day with the chairman of the Frederick Douglass Foundation.
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And he really had some, uh, he pinpointed where the problems are. If you care about, um,
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the black community, if you care about the problems plaguing it, um, as you rightly point out,
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black on black crime, um, criminality, recidivism rates, incarceration rates, um, drug abuse, he says
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it comes down to the fact that families in the black community are not intact. And those, those problems,
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those same statistics overlay into white families experiencing the same problems. If your parents
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aren't together, if you're not born into a stable home, you are at greater risk of those things,
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but nobody wants to talk about it because then it takes us into feminism, doesn't it? Because
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it takes us into, well, women can have it all and you don't really need to be married to have a baby.
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And you, you, you can have everything you want. You don't need a husband. Um, and people sort of
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forget that there are children who are living with consequences of feminism, I guess.
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Yeah, that was Kevin McGarry and he had a lot of good things to say and he does a lot of videos
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that are really, he really goes out into detail and explains, um, you know, contradictions with
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black lives matter. And that's one of the things that he points out and I couldn't agree more. I
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mean, you're, you're dealt the cards you're laid with. And obviously if you're born in a two parent
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home, that's a good two parent home. You're going to have some better odds, no matter what color
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your skin is. You know, um, I grew up in times, you know, we were poverty, we were living in poverty
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and sometimes my stepdad was there and not. And so even with that, yes, it sets you back in some
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ways, but at the same time, I still don't like the idea of teaching my kids or anything like that,
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that because of the color of their skin, they're set back or even because, um, you know, during my
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divorce or something that they would be set back. What happened to encouraging your kids,
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encouraging young people that they can achieve if they work hard, uh, you know, anything,
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anybody else can. I used a reference one time, like if my child was born with one leg, I would
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really want to instill into them just how much they can do and how much they can, that they can
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learn and adapt and make people respect them because of what they've overcome. So I'm, I'm kind of
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worried about all of these young kids. I've seen them, I've gone to events and I don't, I can't tell
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if they're Antifa. I can't tell if they're Black Lives Matter. I can't tell, but I can tell they're
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very young. And so I'm a little concerned with the fact that they're kind of having this, this
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attitude now and this belief and yeah, scary. Yeah. They're, they're told that if they,
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they won't achieve in the world, it's somebody else's fault. Yeah. You know, like the, I was
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raised to think the world didn't owe me anything. I'd have to earn it all. And now kids, they are,
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are told completely the opposite. You are owed something. And if you don't have it, somebody else
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took it from you. And that's, I mean, what a generation we're raising now changing lanes a little
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bit. We could talk about this issue forever. Changing lanes a little bit. You're also sort
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of on the mandatory mask beat. And that's really something that you've been concerned about. And I
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think it was sort of the reason you came onto our radar is, you know, you were, you've been at these
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freedom protests in Vancouver. Luckily, Vancouver isn't going down the same road that the rest of the
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country is that they're bringing in mandatory masks now that the pandemic is over for some reason.
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What do you think is behind this push for these cities? Now that not only have we flattened the
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curve, it's, it's, there was no curve to start with to flatten. Why are they bringing in the masks now?
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Well, I'm just going to take it back and just touch a little bit of my journey with masks.
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Please. Okay. So, so I bought N95s back in January. I stocked up on them before there was
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any shortage because I followed just not mainstream news media. And I knew there was whistleblowers in
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China being silenced of some crazy virus that's spreading fast and killing people. And so, you know,
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I was like, Oh, better get N95s, which are the most qualified masks to actually help you from this
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situation. So I bought that. And I'm the type of person who has, um, you know, enough emergency
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supplies. Should there be an earthquake? You know, isn't that what we're told to do? I have it in my
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car. I have it in my house. Um, you know, sometimes we dip into the food, I replenish it. So that's how I
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am. That's how I think every Canadian should be. So then I had this government who started shaming me
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and I, and that was the first like weird thing I saw with the mask. So they're like, there was this
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real shame. If you had the correct type of mask, if you went out and you bought for your family and
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you were prepared, it was like, no, you're not allowed because you're, you're not, um, you know,
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a frontline worker. And don't get me wrong. I get that. However, the government had thrown away
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millions and millions of masks and not replaced it, the liberal government. And so, but the citizens
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were reading the headlines and getting mad at the people who, who were prepared for them and their
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family. And that's where the hate was. I can remember wearing an N95, I don't know, maybe
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February or something. And, you know, people giving me dirty looks and I had one guy intentionally
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hacking on me. So I've been through the whole motion with the mask and it really made me sort of
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distrust the health, uh, our health officials, as well as the liberal government. It made me
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distrust their judgment because they weren't able to get it together. They weren't able to
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acknowledge, uh, what masks, um, if masks were helpful, what type were helpful. And they were
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also kind of encouraging, I thought, shame. And as you can see is all they have to do is give a
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suggestion and, and people will quickly react to shame and judgment. So I do believe there is a time
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in a place for masks. I do believe they play a role in pandemics and I have lots of friends
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in Japan and that's always to date been a good country for us to look at with COVID. And they're
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all like, you know what, masks are not mandated here. Um, you know, many of us wear it. It's pretty
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common to wear it, especially if you're in a small place like that, but there's no blanket,
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like you have to, there might be a store you walk into that says you haven't and everybody just
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kind of applies. And, and so you had a country like that go through it. And then you had us take
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forever to even acknowledge, you know, Teresa Tam to, to acknowledge whether or not it's helpful or
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not. Like, like there's never been a pandemic before she's been on the world health organization
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as one of seven pandemic doctors for years upon years. I mean, I think 10 or 12 years ago,
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she was in documentary saying, as soon as there's a pandemic, you got to lock healthy people up and
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then ask later if you, if you overreacted. So I was just like, what's going on? You know,
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I really realized you have to do what's best for your family and you have to look at the numbers
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and they have to make sense. So here we are now, if you look at the numbers, it doesn't make any
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sense to be mandating masks in Canada of all places based on the numbers that we've had. And so
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that's where I go into freedom of choice. It's not that I won't wear a mask somewhere where,
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you know, I can't socially distance and there's some elderly people. I'm not some, I don't know,
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I don't want to scare people either. But at the same time, I don't need my government to force me
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to put masks on, especially when they couldn't get their act together and tell us to wear masks when
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we should wear a mask. I think I have a better opinion about what's best for me and my family
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Oh, that's so phenomenal. And no, I've been with you. We've been in Toronto. You have to wear a mask
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in an Uber. We wear a mask in an Uber. Like we're respectful of the people around us. And
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you know, we stand away from people if we're not wearing a mask. And I think that's just social
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courtesy. I don't have the cough. I'm not going to give somebody the cough, but if they're uptight
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about me being a little too close to them, I respect that. You know, like I'm not here to scare
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anybody, but there is a lot of fear and misinformation. And I think a lot of that was
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bred by the government. And yet now they're the ones running around saying that we've have to fight
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misinformation about the coronavirus. I do too. That's why I think we have too much government.
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Yeah, exactly. Oh, this whole misinformation censorship thing. And then, oh, that's like a
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whole nother topic there. But yeah, you're right. And and you have people saying they like I remember
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in the Uber, he said, yeah, you can't breathe in this thing. And it's just it's just, you know,
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the forcing. I think that that is a dangerous, slippery slope when we start throwing our rights
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away and saying, yeah, we're so scared that you can now force us what we need to wear. Like,
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I don't understand where Canadians don't connect the dots there and say, you know what? No,
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you're you're overstepping. Thank you very much. We understand. We appreciate it. But don't don't
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mandate masks on us, especially with these numbers. So
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one last thing I wanted to talk to you about is still on the coronavirus topic. You did something
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that I have not seen anybody else really do. You saw that. Well, yes. And, you know, I'll get to that
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in a second. But you did something that I don't think a lot of people could have done. You saw the
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fact that the coronavirus cases were not manifesting themselves in the homeless community in Vancouver's
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downtown east side the way that government officials had promised. And, you know, these are
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people already who are, you know, largely a lot of them are immunocompromised underlying issues. And
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underlying infections that do put them at risk of a whole a number of other things. Plus,
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they are living in less than sanitary conditions. Every time the rest of us turn around, you know,
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we have to wash our hands and wear a mask. And they don't that's just not how it works down there. It's
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just not part of everyday life. You did something I haven't seen anybody else do. And you went down to
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the downtown east side. And you asked the people who are on the ground there, what it's like, what's
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happening, what it's like to be in the age of the cough, when you are already living in a marginal
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community. And you did something else. And you treated these people with dignity. Life has,
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you know, been hard. Some people do choose to be there. Some people don't. But, you know, we do a
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lot of talking about these folks on the street, but not a lot of talking to them, which I think
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is pretty admirable. You treated them the way we would treat any other person that we were
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interviewing on the street. And I don't think they get a lot of that.
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Mm hmm. Well, I think that's the most important. It's all about treat others the way you would like
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to be treated. That's how I was raised. Again, that's why I don't agree with Black Lives Matter.
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It just ties into it. A lot of those people are just down on their luck. And like you said,
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there's different circumstances. It could be mental health, it could be the cards that they were dealt
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with. It basically just comes down to treating others the way you want to be treated. That's how I was
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raised. That's why I'm not a huge fan of Black Lives Matter, because they're not treating people
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nicely with respect and in an equal way. And, you know, the homeless people are, in my opinion,
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just like you and us. But different things have happened. They've had different walks in life. And
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a lot of times it has to do with their childhood and the cards that they were dealt. And sometimes it
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has to do with other things. And you make a few bad decisions and look where you are. So
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I don't really see them as a population that's kind of too different than me, just with different
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circumstances. So I guess it was natural or natural for me to just talk to them and get their opinion
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on their own neck of the woods. Yeah, I mean, that was the part that I really liked is you're like,
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this is their neighborhood. So why wouldn't I talk to them? Why would I talk to the activists
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who are speaking for them? Why don't I talk to them? So I think by the time this goes to air,
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that video will have been out because we're pre-recording because it's the August long weekend
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and I'm sort of kind of not supposed to be working, but here I am. But I do, I hope everybody
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checks that out because you did treat the people of the downtown east side with a lot of kindness
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and respect. Drea, before we go, because it is long weekend and you shouldn't be working and neither
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should I, I wanted to ask you a work question, I guess. You're new to the company, but the great
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thing about working for Rebel News is that we have all this freedom. I think that other journalists
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don't get, like they get stories assigned to them and they have to cover what they're told to cover.
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And, and of course they cover it in their own biased way. And so do we, but we're upfront about
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where we're coming from. Yeah. We get a lot of freedom to cover the stories that we care about.
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So my question for you is going forward as one of our newest rebels, um, and quickly becoming a fan
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favorite. Yeah. What are the things that are on your radar? What, what drives you? What do you want
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to talk about as Drea Humphrey, rebel journalist? Oh, okay. In the hot seat. Um, you know, I think I am
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going to continue following the mandated mask just because my gut tells me we're not seeing the end
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of these types of mandates and these types of rules. So I think that that might expand into some
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other things. And I think that I'm not alone in those concerns. In fact, I'm another video coming
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up where I'm interviewing a lawyer. He thinks that those are very valid concerns that that could,
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there could be other things that are mandated. So I think I'll follow that. And also I feel like
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we've heard about the second wave so much that I feel like it's coming, it's coming, whether the
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numbers add up to it or not. So I want to watch that closely and just see how accurate kind of
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mainstream media is reporting on that to people. Um, and I already have some ideas. I'll, I'll run them by
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you, Sheila, to make sure I'm not way off on left field, but I have some ideas of, of maybe just kind of
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calm down people. Let's take a breath here. Let's, let's dissect these numbers for what they are
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instead of the crazy titles that you guys are seeing that make you want to stay in a bubble
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locked up the whole time. And, um, you know, I would love to do more topics. If we keep going down
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the abolish the police road, I would like to do more topics that kind of challenge that. I know I said
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before on David's show that I have been talking to officers who are not even able to come out
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publicly and speak about it. And they have some really good ideas about where money should be
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allocated and how it would actually help, um, even reduce police brutality, but also do things like,
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uh, help more cold cases be solved and things like that. So I think that there needs to be some
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more voices about what we're, what the silent majority by staying silent is actually kind of putting
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at risk to letting go or, or seeing cutbacks or whatever it's going to look like. So those are
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some of the things that I'm interested in. And I hope the viewers are interested in those as well.
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Well, they are interested in your work already. Like I said, you're quickly becoming a fan favorite.
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I know that the fact that you're on my show this week was a request from a viewer. Actually,
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I think it came to us. It came in via a super chat. When people pay me money to super chat,
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um, I got to do what they say. And I, I, I jumped at the opportunity. So we'll have you back on the
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show very soon. Please enjoy the rest of your long weekend, whatever they call it here in BC.
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Yes. Family, family day is coming up tomorrow. So yes, you too, Sheila. Okay. Bye guys.
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Drea has got a unique perspective because of her background and where she lives. I admire her for
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seeing the human dignity in the downtrodden to speaking to people, the mainstream media won't
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and for telling their stories. And you know, it can't be easy to be a black conservative or
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a conservative in Vancouver. And Drea is both. So, you know, Drea is a woman of strength and integrity.
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She is who she is, even when people say she shouldn't be. And I cannot wait to see what
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she does next. Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight. Thank you so much for tuning in. As
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always, I'll see everybody back here or in my studio in the same time, in the same place next
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week. And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.
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So, you know, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.