SPECIAL： Interview with Conrad Black about his NEW book, “The Canadian Manifesto”
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Conrad Black's new book, The Canadian Manifesto, is out now, and it's a political call to arms. I sat down with him at his house, had a great time, and we talked about other things besides his book too, including a question I asked him about his time in prison.
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Hey folks, special show today, it's one extended interview with Conrad Black.
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It's about his new book, The Canadian Manifesto.
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I sat down with him at his house, had a great time.
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And we talked about other things besides his book too, including a question I asked him
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All right, without further to do, here's Conrad Black.
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Tonight, a special feature interview with Conrad Black about his new book, The Canadian
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It's May 10th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
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As an author, his last book about Donald Trump was great.
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Not only is Black one of the few journalists who truly understands Trump, but he is also
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a personal friend of his from before his presidential days.
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So it was a great review of the 45th president from someone who really knows him.
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Well, Black has a new book out, and it's 100% Canadian this time.
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It's even called The Canadian Manifesto, which sounds like a political call to arms.
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I had so much fun talking with him about his Trump book.
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Now, I only received the review copy just right before we talked, so I hadn't gone through
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it in depth as much as I wanted to before our interview, so our conversation was partly
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about the book and partly about life in general, including a surprising answer he gave me when
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I asked him about his time in prison, which I found interesting, and maybe you will too.
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So without further ado, here is my interview with Conrad Black about his new book, The Canadian
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So if you're interested in it, you can buy it at the Amazon link below.
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I have to tell you, the first thing that stood out to me about this book was how short it
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And I was thrilled because I have your other books.
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Why did you write something that was 166 pages?
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Well, ever since John Turner objected that I was causing my arthritis, holding first my
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Roosevelt book, then my Nixon book, and then my history of the U.S., then my history of
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Canada, I've been slimming it down, and I got down to about 220 pages in my book about
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President Trump, and I'm trying to turn it into a pamphleteer, you see.
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With this book, you could tear through it in one long sitting on the throne or something.
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But it's called a manifesto, and I read it, and it felt a little bit like a political party's
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Well, I give the historical background for it, and then I make some policy ideas.
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I mean, you're a bit of a politician yourself, even though you have no elected office.
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I think it would not be fair to say who, but that are elected, and they're from a bit
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Actually, useful factual suggestions, but not particularly policy ones.
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Now, the subtitle of the book is How One Frozen Country Can Save the World.
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That was my publisher, Kevin Wright, who came up with that.
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We're always sorry, sorry, after you, after you, sorry.
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It's a little Trumpy to say, we're going to save the world.
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I thought the reference to Canada being frozen played into a caricature that Canadians don't
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like, because, you know, they don't like being thought of that we're living in England
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But I've got to tell you, right now, it looks like we can't even save ourselves, let alone
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It's still a great country, but the government's not doing well.
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Well, first we've got to save ourselves before we save the world.
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The fact is, if you get into it, Ezra, as you know, the definition of saving the world
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is, in fact, making Canada sufficiently noteworthy and recognized in the world because of its
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level of good government, if the program enunciated here is followed.
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We save the world by saving ourselves, so it's not as contradictory as it sounds.
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You know, you broke this book into three parts.
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The first is sort of a history pointing the way.
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And I'm glad you did that because you're a historian by, I'd almost say by profession.
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We haven't done much here in Canada, but we've actually done a lot.
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And, you know, we often think about the Quebec quarter of our country.
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But we've managed to do that without, as you point out, a U.S. civil war, without the Irish
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You know, for all our quirks as a country, we have kept it together.
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And the only countries in the world with more people than Canada, larger population than
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Canada that have had political institutions continuously longer, pardon me, longer than
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we have are Great Britain and the United States.
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And as you say, the British lost a province at the end of World War I, and the Americans
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just two years before we set up Confederation ended a terrible civil war in which three-quarters
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of a million people died in a population smaller than Canada is now.
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When I was a kid, we learned it's a middle power.
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But it was a middle power, and we like to punch above our weight.
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I mean, there are great countries that are middle powers that I don't think aspire to
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I don't think the Swiss want to double their population and throw their weight around.
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No, but they've made a vocation of what they have.
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As you know, it's a trilingual country, and it's between the traditional great powers of
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continental Europe, and it's sort of a haven country, and it's a small country, so it
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You know, Luxembourg's a wonderful tax haven country.
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But, you know, if you only have a little country, you can't do that much with it.
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I'm saying we should distinguish ourselves from those others because...
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The Swiss make the absolute most of what they have, and I don't think we do, and that's
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You know, under Stephen Harper's prime ministership, I think Canada did have a moral force in the
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And to some degree opposite Russia and China, yes.
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If that's what you're going to do, you can't do much unless you pay your way militarily.
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If we had, we could have had much more influence in NATO, I think, and in the United Nations.
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Well, by contrast, our current prime minister has made such an obsession with getting on the
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Security Council of the United Nations, which I think is just nothing but a bauble, but
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And in his path towards that, I think he's burnt so many of our key relationships.
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Like, who cares if we're giving out foreign aid to corrupt third world countries?
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Who cares if we're at the front row of a corrupt institution like the UN?
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We should be leading the movement to reform the UN.
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I mean, I think a lot of it's nonsense, as you do.
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As it is now, it would absolutely horrify its founders.
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And it's a primal screen therapy for the most disreputable regimes in the world.
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We are the logical people to lead the reform movement.
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You talk about immigration, and you are politically incorrect enough to say,
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We've got to watch out for people who would want to...
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We've got to watch out for unassimilable immigrants.
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Well, okay, let's talk a little bit more about that.
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Because there is no one in our Canadian political firmament right now who is saying that.
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But that is a very different thing from keeping out someone who does not believe in the equality
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of men and women does not believe in the separation of mosque and state.
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And there's no ambition to assimilate to either official culture in this country.
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And I think that this is an issue where the elites are on one side and the people are on the other.
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I refer to an Angus Reid poll that shows only 6% of Canadians want more immigration.
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And yet we have Justin Trudeau saying, we're going to give you more than ever.
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So I'm not a small number of immigration people.
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Well, I think, believe it or not, we could get some from the United States.
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I think we could get good many from Central and Eastern Europe.
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Right now, if you look at where Canadians are coming from, new Canadians, China, Philippines, Pakistan...
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I have nothing against any of those countries as long as the attitude of the applicants is the correct attitude.
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I mean, Chinese Canadians, Filipino Canadians, integration, assimilation, I don't sense that's a problem.
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And with most Muslims, I don't sense it's a problem.
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I mean, look, some of these street gangs are Vietnamese.
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But the Vietnamese in general are welcome here.
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Many of them speak French from the French days.
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I'm talking about the political ideology of Islam as being superior to the secular law of the land.
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Look, I don't particularly get into this in this book.
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But on the issue you raise, I'm happy to talk about it.
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I mean, look, they're perfectly entitled to religious views like you and I are.
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But they are not entitled to demand religious exceptions to the laws of this country.
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I only mention that because when I read that you want Canada's population 50, 60 million,
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I mean, wouldn't it be great to get people who...
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If we did it right, we'd get a lot of people from Belarus and Ukraine and Russia and so forth.
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I want to talk a little bit about that because high immigration is good for landlords, drives
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It's good for factory owners, drives down wages.
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But I'm not sure if that works in today's economy.
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I'm worried we're teetering on the edge of a recession.
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Now, we're straying from my book, but that's fine.
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But we may achieve the astounding feat of having a recession in this country while the United
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States is having the greatest economic boom in its history.
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Because Stephen Harper, I think, bit his tongue and went along with Barack Obama for the good
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And I think he actually got a grudging respect in return from Obama.
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It wasn't until Harper was gone that Obama nixed the Keystone XL, for example.
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How does Canada stay Canadian and get along with our biggest ally and trading partner?
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The Americans have no desire to tell us what to do.
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They don't want to meddle in this country the way Brussels meddles in the governments
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of the member states because, ostensibly, the European Union is seeking an ever-closer
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They just want arrangements with us that they're happy with.
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You know, there's a while there where we heard different people in Ottawa talk about changing
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the sun around which we orbit, replacing America with China.
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Well, I heard that from Catherine McKenna and Gerald Butts about, well, if America's not
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following the global warming scheme, maybe China is, and let's reorient towards China.
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I mean, they are, one, the greatest polluter in the world, and two, the head of G77, the
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77 countries, patting around with cupped hands and begging bulls, saying, you advanced economies
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I mean, the Chinese, like anyone else, if you leave the door open, they'll push the door.
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So what is the best way to handle China, which is a huge market, but it's crony capitalism,
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And it pursues not only an aggressive foreign policy, but one with certain racist overtones.
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And it has to be respected as the other great power in the world next to the United States.
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But the way to do it is to maintain cordial relations with those kind of...
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Well, maintain as cordial relations as we can with China without in any way subordinating
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ourselves on matters of principle or our national interest, and keep friendly with that arc of
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It's not a military expansion, but the general expansion of Chinese influence in the Far East.
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We're talking about Japan, Indonesia, Philippines, Taiwan, Vietnam, South Korea, Malaysia, Singapore,
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even though it's a Chinese country, and India and Australia.
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They're all countries we're friendly with, and the Americans are essentially encouraging
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It is a very soft and appropriately different version of the containment strategy in Western Europe
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I'm having trouble staying focused on your book because I want to talk to you about the whole world.
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I was reading your passage about oil and gas and natural resources and pipelines.
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I mean, Ontario was built by mining, and the Atlantic, and forestry, and fisheries, and
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Canada has more oil than any country in the world other than Saudi Arabia or Venezuela.
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But we've actually, for the first time in a decade, had a reduction in oil production.
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Well, you've changed governments, and you proclaim an imminent domain that requires
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the construction of pipelines east and west from Alberta.
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It is an absolute scandal and an outrage that we import one drop of oil.
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And, you know, you stop inviting the native people to declare the whole of Canada a sacred burial ground.
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There are Indian bands who support these oil pipelines.
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Northern Gateway pipeline was 10% owned, 10% set aside for Indian bands, and yet it was
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There will always be an environmentalist who says no.
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What do you do when you've got all your permits, and yet activists show up to either physically
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block or even do some violence or, God forbid, eco-terrorism?
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What do you do when people just say, I will not abide by the rule of law.
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Look, I mean, obviously you try and avoid the violence, and if there is violence, you
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But the fact is, you do the necessary to ensure that the writ of the government of Canada
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I mean, otherwise, it's just a house of cards and not a government.
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These cities, even Toronto, talk about a climate emergency.
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I mean, they love oil and gas in all those cities.
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There's no climate emergency in any of those cities.
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I mean, I touch on this in the book, so you're not off topic.
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The carbon footprint of Canada and the world is a fraction of 1%, as you know.
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If we had belching factories side by side from Halifax to Vancouver, it would have no impact
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Secondly, we don't know a thing about climate change.
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We know at this point the world is not, in fact, warming.
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The first 15 years of this century were colder than the last 15 years of the previous century.
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Who has got the courage to say that in an election campaign?
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Well, certainly the president of the United States does.
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Leadership is you tell the people the facts, and nobody's telling them the facts.
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Basically, the conservation movement, which we all agreed with.
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I mean, I'm older than you, but years ago when we were young, it was essentially avoidance
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And it consisted of bird watchers, butterfly collectors, and the Sierra Club.
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You know, Greenpeace, even though I got a little tiresome about nuclear weapons.
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When the international left was defeated in the Cold War, the forces of Marxism piled into
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And in the guise of saving the planet, they've turned it into an assault on capitalism.
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The Paris Climate Agreement is the most outrageous, fraudulent agreement in history, except for
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And they were both the work of the Obama administration, and Trump is undoing them both.
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I point out that Andrew Scheer, the leader of the Conservatives, one of his first acts
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as leader, was to whip his MPs, including his oil patch MPs, to support the Paris Climate
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What I was getting at about these cities, Vancouver, Victoria, Toronto, and Montreal, is they use
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But psychologically, they say, I don't want that dirty oil from Alberta, but they're buying
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I'm not criticizing you, but you're missing the silent majority.
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I mean, you used to bestride this country in your newspapers, and I worked for the National
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Post when you were the proprietor of it, and I felt like we were pushing back against that
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I felt that way when I worked for the National Post 20 years ago.
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Well, it was part of my reason for founding the National Post.
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But how do you stand up against the Paris Accord?
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But what if 90% of the voices in the country at the discussion table are the think-alikes
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In 1939, not quite 90%, but almost 90% of Americans were isolationists.
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They wanted nothing to do at all with the belligerent powers in Europe.
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By the middle of 1941, well before Pearl Harbor, a majority of Americans wanted to support the
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British and Canadians, even if it led to war, though they hoped it wouldn't.
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Now, that was leadership by President Roosevelt.
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At the end of the war, an overwhelming majority of Americans didn't want anything to do with
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And within a year, he had a majority of support for the Marshall Plan and setting up NATO.
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I don't know the media landscape back then enough offhand.
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But here in Canada, on the issue of global warming, even the old National Post's dissident
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And the media in this country is completely hopeless, and not just because of its political
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Most of them can't write, and most of them are slothful.
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How can you be a courageous leader proposing the ideas that you do in your book when you
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know in advance that the Huffington Post and Vice and BuzzFeed, let alone the CBC, CTV,
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the Globe and Mail, are going to take the mushy, think-alike, lefty view?
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If you can't get your point of view out, how can you be a leader if no one repeats your
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Well, no, if you're in a position of official responsibility, you can...
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To use Margaret Thatcher's old line, you have a direct line to the people.
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The mushy-minded people, as you say, may comment on it and distort it and misrepresent it.
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But when Reagan referred, when he opened the Strategic Defense Initiative, you're certainly
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old enough to remember that, he was ridiculed everywhere.
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Star Wars, they thought he'd gone crazy and had cartoons of him as Darth Vader and everything.
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Meanwhile, the country followed it, and basically that ended the Cold War.
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I mean, the Soviet Union collapsed, not the Russians.
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Well, listen, I read your book, and it's called A Manifesto, so you got my attention, and it
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I do propose a lot of policy alternatives in different fields.
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Go through some more of them, because I read the book quickly before.
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Look, on the tax side, I don't want to sound too simplistic.
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But on the tax side, I want reduced income taxes and an increased HST on nonessential spending,
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which, obviously, you don't raise HST on groceries bought in food stores, but you can raise it
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on luxury restaurant bills, you know, that kind of thing.
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And in poverty reduction, I think we go to a self-eliminating wealth tax, very small percent
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on high wealth numbers, but the way it's paid is not just paying a tax, pay for more civil
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It is the wealthy people certify in the way that bona fide charities are certified methods
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And as statistically defined poverty is reduced, the tax is eliminated.
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So you give the wealthiest and most commercially and economically astute people in the country
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an incentive to help eliminate poverty, and you align exactly the interests of the poor
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I think we've gone as far as we can go with our well-intentioned, but now over-manned and
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So you're saying you're calling on private individuals to solve the problem of poverty
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Look, I think official action has reduced poverty a long way from where it would be, but to finish
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But, you know, the Bible says the poor will always be with us.
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Yeah, but we don't have, I agree it says that, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily
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If you define it as, let's say, the lowest 10% of income earners, you will always have
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a lowest 10% even in the richest country of the world.
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They need not necessarily be in a state of poverty.
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I'm not trying to create equal levels of wealth for everybody.
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There's a great tradition in Canada, and even stronger in America, of wealthy people doing
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That, I think part of that is made possible if people are allowed to get wealthy in the
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Don't imagine for a second I'm trying to stop that.
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It's just that the tax they pay will be a slightly different tax.
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I think, I mean, listen, I've never been wealthy enough to donate a hospital wing or anything
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like that, but I would imagine people do that partly for the pride and the joy and the
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feeling that I'm a community builder, but I think there's been a demonization of wealth
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and the wealthy, Bernie Sanders, that whole, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, there's a new love
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for socialism and a misunderstanding of socialism and capitalism, I think, from millennials, and
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Look at Howard Schultz, who's thinking of running as an independent for president.
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Yeah, yeah, he's fine as a businessman, but as a politician, he's a jackass.
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I, but some of his clips that I've seen online are startling.
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He says, look, we have to keep with the American way.
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It's what allowed me to go from poor to wealthy, and he was...
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He's a conservative Democrat, which is basically, doesn't exist anymore.
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And that's my point, is that the Democrats have demonized wealth and wealthiness so bad,
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I'm worried that that's undermining the American dream.
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I blame some of this, and it certainly wasn't what they intended, but on these immensely
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wealthy people making sort of leftist gestures, like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates saying, I'm
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I mean, you know, Uncle Warren padding around in his corduroys and his viola shirt and masquerading
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as just the, you know, the friendly uncle in the old age home or something.
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I mean, it's wonderful PR for him, and he's a brilliant man, and to the very small extent
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I know him, he's a very courteous, nice man, too.
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But it sort of invites the next step to Sandersism.
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Look here, these guys aren't leaving their money to anybody.
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Why the hell did they make it in the first place, and why shouldn't we take it now, instead
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You know, I tell you, there's a hundred things we've talked about that I could go down deep,
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Now, what about, I think that constitutional matters were pretty much put in the freezer
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Quebec was appeased, I think, because Harper was not part of an age-old feud himself.
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They didn't like him down there, and they didn't give him much support, but at least he spoke French
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Well, he recognized Quebec as a distinct society.
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But look at Canada now for three years of Trudeau.
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But even, I think that you see province after province turning against the hard-fisted tactics
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I mean, look, if you have to raise taxes, you have to raise them, but don't pretend you're
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And that's why Macron has these gilets jaunes out there.
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You know, the French don't like paying taxes, but they would pay it if they have to, for
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But the idea they're paying it to save the world's climate is just a load of God's wallop,
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Well, let's talk about the gilets jaunes, the yellow vest protests, which have been going
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Yeah, but you can't deal with them the way Macron is.
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In Canada, we have some people who put on yellow vests as a symbol of being dissident,
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I mean, let them put on the, you know, pink tukes like the women who were complaining about
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But the great use of that is that it's allowed Justin Trudeau, Chrystia Freeland, Ahmed Hassan,
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Ralph Goodale, all the Trudeau senior cabinet to say, ah, we have a tremendous problem in
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Canada with neo-Nazis, alt-right, and white supremacists.
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I think that's going to be their theme going forward.
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The average Canadian knows, of course, in any society, there are some crazy people and
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there are some extremists and you can't take their rights away, but you've got to watch
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them closely to make sure they don't do really seriously bad things.
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But that Canada has a real problem, that our society is threatened by the numbers and ferocity
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of these people, bunk, and everyone in this country knows it's bunk.
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But the answer to that is get better media, not change society.
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Claude Wagner, you know, who I supported for leader when he ran against Joe Clark, he
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used to quote Duplessis and say, le peuple est bon, but people are good.
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Well, that's funny because you're a lord, a house of lords.
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And I think partly because of how you carry yourself, partly because of your vocabulary,
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and partly because, you know, media tycoons, that's a certain image.
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You would normally be called fancy, but you have this populist streak to you.
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You, you, you, you're a Trumpist, which by definition means you're, you're a sort of a blue,
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you sympathize with the blue collar workers in a way that I don't think most people in
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I mean, when I, you know, was an outrage, it's widely recognized now to be an outrage,
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and the last shoe hasn't dropped yet, but it will, on, on, on the legal problems I had.
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And, you know, everybody in the media here was saying, oh, well, when he gets to an American
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federal prison, you know, they'll do terrible things to him and so on.
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When, when, when the public address system announced that I was under a Supreme Court
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release order, 200 people wanted to accompany me to the gate.
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But, you know, and I certainly know a lot of socially prominent people, but in various
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countries, but, but I'm interested in everybody, not just, not just rich people.
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I mean, I've, I've seen you when a 17-year-old cadet said hello and you stopped and you talked
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to him for 15 minutes about every, I've seen you do that.
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I've never asked you about your, your time in prison and maybe you don't want to tell
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me, but I'm curious because talk about a fish out of water.
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I mean, if, if it weren't so grave and unjust, that would be a hell of a movie.
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I was going to say, I mean, that's a hell of a, that's a trading place.
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I mean, some of them are, are bad news, but, but, but, but I got on fine with them.
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Did you, have you kept in touch with any of them?
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Well, you've been very generous with your time.
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Um, I like the fact that you still love Canada and that you, it's called a manifesto and you
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Are you going to do anything to make them happen?
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Are you going to go on a tour, a speaking tour?
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Are you going to, I mean, this book is, it's affordable and it's on Amazon and people can
00:34:48.520
Are you going to do anything to, to push these ideas into, into places where they might be
00:34:59.120
And, and if, if I was, uh, if anyone in, I mean, I'm not at this stage about to hurl
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myself into politics and I'm not even at this point a citizen in this country, though.
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I think, I think that'll change probably fairly soon.
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But the, the, um, uh, and I, I like the situation I have in Britain because I, you know, I am a
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legislator and I can speak and it's on television and if it's any good, it's noticed and quoted.
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And, uh, but here, um, if, if, if somebody asked me to do something that I thought I could
00:35:34.380
do properly and, and, and, and, and was, it was interesting, I'd, I'd do it.
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I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'll, I'll, I'll see what I can do.
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I mean, I, I, there's a lot of things in the book when you talk about constitutional matters,
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you talk, there's a lot of things we haven't even touched on, but if you could identify
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one problem in Canada that you think is soluble, like not just a, wouldn't it be great if, but
00:36:00.460
if there was one thing out there, a low hanging fruit, something that you think, my God, we
00:36:05.540
What would that problem be and what would your prescription be?
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So there's a lot of things in your book, but what's the one thing that's a no-brainer?
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Uh, the no-brainers are not so, uh, they're not so many of those.
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I mean, if there were, in fairness, I think the others would have got onto them already.
00:36:27.000
On the, um, education side, I think we have to start, I think we have to decertify the
00:36:36.460
teachers unions and institute, uh, a, a meritocratic, uh, system of rewarding performance, both
00:36:49.260
the students and the teachers, and occasionally this is attempted, but it's always rigged, and,
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and, and we've got to stop that, because we're spending, as a civilization in the Western
00:36:59.860
world, in almost every country, more and more and more money to get less and less well-educated
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The second thing I'd, I'd mention is on, on, on, I'll mention three of them.
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We have to integrate private medicine into our, into our healthcare system.
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We don't have enough doctors per person, per unit of population, to, to get rid of waiting
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lists and provide efficient healthcare, and we, we can only deal with it by bringing some
00:37:34.720
level of private medicine back into the system.
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And third, on the justice side, other than in the most egregious cases, we should not imprison
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I'm, I'm, I'm all for punishing crime, but, but there are much better, more efficient, more
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Well, listen, I, I'm amazed at your output, the number, I've, I've got to keep up with you.
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If you make the book short enough, you can put them out quickly.
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You've written more books than a lot of folks have read.
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I, I, I like the fact that this and your Trump book, which was great, is so accessible.
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And I'm grateful, because, I mean, I love your thick history books, but.
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No, but in, in fairness, the, the life of Franklin D. Roosevelt, if you're going to be serious,
00:38:33.160
Well, I, I congratulate you on this new book, and we will, we'll send this video to our
00:38:40.740
folks out there, and I think in this country, people are, after three and a half years of
00:38:46.620
Justin Trudeau, I think people are, are looking for someone who loves Canada, who's maybe studied
00:38:52.160
Canada a little bit, and knows our history, and has done some serious thinking about the
00:38:56.740
I want to say, I personally like Justin Trudeau.
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I, I, I think he's a very genuinely nice man, uh, and smarter than his detractors say,
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but I, I, I do not think he's had a successful government, unfortunately.
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Congratulations on the new book, and, uh, we look forward to your next book as well.
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I mean, and for me, I think the test will be, can your ideas in the manifesto, which suggests
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Well, what did you think of that very interesting character?
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I wish I had had a little more time to go through the review copy, which I just got that
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day, so my questions would be more specific to his book, but I hope you enjoyed our conversation
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nonetheless, and if you want to buy his book, and I think we should support conservative
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I tell you, the bestseller list is jammed with liberal books.
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When a conservative actually writes a book, I think we should support it, so please consider
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going to the Amazon link below this video to buy a copy for yourself.
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What's so great is that Conrad Black, he writes these big, thick history books, but this one's
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I think it's going to sell a lot of copies, by the way.
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And until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night