Surprise! Media Party poll calls for more subsidies for the Media Party
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A new poll suggests that most Canadians support government bailouts for Canadian media companies that are facing a financial crisis. Could that be true? Or is it just clickbait? We'll find out tonight on Rebel News Plus!
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Hello, my Rebels. Today, I take you through a poll that maybe you've seen in the media.
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It suggests that Canadians overwhelmingly want the government to give more bailout money to TV
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stations and newspapers. Could that possibly be true? I'll actually take you through the
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pollster's questions and, well, I'll let you judge for yourself. Hey, before I do,
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Tonight, the Media Party is publishing a poll by the Media Party calling for more subsidies for
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the Media Party. Are you surprised? It's April 8th, and this is the Ezra LeVance Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my
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Hey, have you seen this headline in the National Post?
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COVID-19 crisis. Most Canadians support bailout for media organizations, poll finds. Oh, that is a
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work of art right there. That headline, pandemic, crisis, COVID-19. Oh, okay, now that we've got your
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attention, the story's actually not about those things, but it's about getting more corporate
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bailouts for journalists, including the journalist who wrote that story. That's called clickbait.
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That's a bait and switch. That's junk journalism, and that's where we are these days with the media
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party. That was in the National Post, which used to be against bailouts until they weren't. I mean,
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as they said in the movie The Godfather, nothing personal. It's just business. I don't know if you
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know this, but the National Post and most Canadian daily newspapers, including the Toronto Sun chain,
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the Calgary Herald, Montreal Gazette, Edmonton Journal, Vancouver Sun, etc., they're not actually
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owned by Canadians. They're owned by a company called PostMedia, which in turn is owned by a U.S.
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investment fund called Chatham Asset Management. Here, let me read to you from PostMedia's latest
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filings. They say, as at November 30th, 2019, Chatham owns 62 million, or 66% of our shares.
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So yeah, the National Post, which nation are they talking about, says Canadians want to help fight
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the pandemic by giving tax dollars to their U.S.-based owners. Here, let me read from this
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highly credible and not at all self-serving story in the Post.
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The majority of Canadians support government bailouts for media organizations that are facing a collapse
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in advertising revenue since the COVID-19 pandemic shut down businesses across the country, according
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to a new poll. Really? Oh, yes. The survey was conducted by Nanos Research for Friends of Canadian
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Broadcasting, a non-partisan media watchdog, and was released Monday. Non-partisan? Really?
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Here's an attack ad that Friends of Canadian Broadcasting ran when Stephen Harper was Prime
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Mr. Prime Minister, when you came to power, you promised accountability, transparency,
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and clean ethics. Now that we've had the robocalls, the in-and-out scandal, the G20 abuses,
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the F-35 boondoggle, the shattering of Parliament, the cancelling of the long-form census, muzzling
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of scientists, the Duffy Wallen scandal, losing track of 3.1 billion in security funding, stonewalling
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on digital spying, the military police investigation of CTV for breaking stories that embarrassed
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the government, and now turning CBC into a state broadcaster. How do you respond to that?
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Who is going to ask the tough questions now? Join the campaign to free the CBC from political
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Yeah, non-partisan. But look, the Post says that they're non-partisan, but the conflict
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of interest here isn't between the Conservative Party and the Liberal Party. It's that the National
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Post is a party. It's a would-be beneficiary of more government bailouts. Of course, it's
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relevant that the Friends of Canadian Broadcasting is a left-wing pro-CBC front group that hates
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Conservatives. Right, but the point today is that it's now lobbying for the National
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Post's owners, Chatham Asset Management, so they can get Canadian tax dollars too. That's
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a neat trick. Here, let me read some more from the story. It found that 7 in 10 Canadians support
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26 percent, or somewhat support 41 percent, the federal government sending financial aid to
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failing news organizations. A majority of Canadians also agree, 36 percent, or somewhat agree, 26 percent,
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that Ottawa should treat media bankruptcies and layoffs as an emergency because journalism
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is essential to keeping Canadians safe during the crisis. Imagine writing that, that it's
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critical to have journalists because that's who keeps Canadians safe, not doctors or nurses
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or truck drivers or farmers or people who make masks, but journalists? Like this kooky CBC journalist
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who wrote a story saying masks don't work, so don't wear them? What? For some reason, the CBC keeps
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saying that. Here's another doozy saying that the pandemic is caused by global warming. Did you know
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that? It's almost like, you know, the CBC is actually spreading disinformation that's dangerous.
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They're not saving any lives. And that's just the CBC. They're obviously the worst. But most of the
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media is the same. They were against closing the borders. They pretend the World Health Organization
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is a neutral, science-friendly entity rather than a puppet of the Chinese government, which it is.
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So yeah, no, journalists are not saving us from the pandemic. And you'll note the wording there.
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There were no majorities. They had to add together people who agree and people who sort of maybe agree
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to get a majority. What a joke. I'll read some more. The survey notes that Canadian media outlets
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have seen advertising revenues fall by as much as 60 percent, and nearly 500 journalists were laid off
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in the first two weeks of the lockdown. Torstar, which publishes several daily newspapers including
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the Toronto Star, announced on Monday it would eliminate 85 positions and cut its operating budget
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to offset advertising revenue losses. Now look, I don't want anyone to lose their job, but seriously,
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you have, what is it, 4 million Canadians out of work in the last month? I think that's the latest
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figure. It's growing daily. 4 million. Entire industries just flattened. Airlines, hotels,
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restaurants, cinemas, sports, schools. But the poor dears of the Toronto Star laid off 85 people,
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so that's the crisis? Yeah, no. Oh, well, they're just getting started. Here, let me read some more.
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Many of our most prominent journalism outlets face imminent failure, even after the government's
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proposed tax credits and wage subsidies are factored in. Friends Executive Director Daniel
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Bernard said, this is an acute emergency, and Canadians want Ottawa to intervene quickly
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to save these trusted institutions from mass extinction. Our democracy and our future as an
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independent country are at stake. Holy cow, I didn't know that. A country that can't talk to itself
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ceases to be. If we lose our media, we lose our country. Oh my God. You know, I worked at the National
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Post during its glory days 20 years ago, right after it started. It was amazing. It fought so hard for
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conservative ideas for smaller government. I remember we even had a whole series criticizing the CBC
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for being the media party, for taking government money. Yeah, that old National Post is gone, my
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friends. Now it publishes hysteria and fantasies from left-wing pressure groups without skepticism
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or rebuttal, because it's only the National Post in name. The nation that owns 66% of its stock is,
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well, it's a hedge fund from the U.S. And they don't care who they have to quote to get more government
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money. They're already getting 140 grand a week from Trudeau, and they'd like some more. Thank you
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very little. Here's how their story ends. The survey was conducted over landlines, cell phones,
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and online between March 30th and April 2 as part of an omnibus survey. Nanos Research carried out a
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random survey of 1,036 Canadians aged 18 and over. The margin of error is plus or minus 3.1 percentage
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points, 19 times out of 20. Now that's the thing. This is a laughable claim. It's a joke of a story
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that Canadians care about journalists, that journalists are the only ones who are going to
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save us, that Canadians think these 85 layoffs at the Star are the most pressing thing in our
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country. And without those 85 journalists at the Toronto Star, we're all going to die
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from the pandemic or whatever the headline said. But they're hanging it all on an opinion poll.
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So they're really saying, hey, don't look at us. We didn't make up this craziness. We're not crazy.
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Canadians actually believe this stuff. And we paid a pollster to tell us that.
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Now, I have no beef with Nick Nanos, the pollster here. But I want to show you the junk poll that was
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used to get these numbers. I mean, you've probably heard of a push poll before. It's not even really a
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poll. It pretends to be a poll, but it's a persuasion tool. It would be like if someone called you up
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and said, I'm a pollster. If you heard that Justin Trudeau took a million dollar donation
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from the Communist Party of China, would that make you more or less likely to trust him?
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That's not a real poll because everyone, of course, would be less likely to trust him.
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That's a ridiculous question, but it's not really a question that's pretending to be a question.
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It's really a veiled attack on him. By the way, we have no evidence that Trudeau cashed any checks
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from China. We do, of course, have plenty of evidence that the Liberal Party front group called Canada
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2020 did cash huge checks from the Chinese phone company Huawei, and that the Trudeau Foundation
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takes huge foreign checks that they refuse to disclose. We do have proof of that. But back to
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the polls. Do you get my point? Ask a non-neutral question, get a non-neutral answer. It's garbage.
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So let's look at some of the questions that Nick Nanos actually agreed to ask. And really,
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what a surprise. You'd think that his reputation would be worth more than whatever he got paid for
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this one-off poll. Anyhow, let's take a look. Here's what they published online. Here's the
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poll in full. I read it. And can I draw your attention just to a couple lines in it?
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Question. Since the coronavirus COVID-19 outbreak began, because of the economic collapse,
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Canadian media outlets have seen advertising revenues fall by 60%. In the first two weeks of
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the lockdown, nearly 500 journalists were laid off. If current trends continue, parts of the country
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will have either no or fewer professional journalists covering important news stories.
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Would you support, somewhat support, somewhat oppose, or oppose the following? And I'll get
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into the actual questions in a moment, but about that whole preamble I just read.
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Parts of the country will have no professional journalists covering important news. Really? Is that
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really what's going to happen? There will not be a single reporter left to report the news in this
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country. Are you crazy? Does anyone actually believe that? Or did this pollster have to say that
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because he knew people just don't care that a few journalists are being laid off? Get in line,
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right? I mean, journalists are not essential. Anyone can be a journalist. And the ones we have,
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well, they seem to be political activists as much as journalists. I like that phrase,
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professional journalists, too. Did you know that there's a profession, I guess? Like doctors and
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engineers and lawyers for journalists? What a laugh. You know, a profession is a self-regulating
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industry with standards that you have to meet before you can practice. Heck, even carpenters
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and plumbers and welders have to have a trade certificate. No such thing for journalists.
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It's whoever tells you what happened today. That's journalism. Imagine the twin lies here. You're saying
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you're a profession, which is a lie, like a pharmacist is a profession. Journalists are not like
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pharmacists. And you're saying they're all going to be laid off. Everyone, there will be no
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journalists left. Yeah, Nick Nanos, that's a push poll. I hope you cash the check quickly.
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But remember, that was just the preamble to juice the numbers, like saying, if you heard Trudeau
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robbed a bank, would that make you more or less likely to support him? It's not legitimate.
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It puts a thumb on the scale. But look at the wording of the questions that came right after the
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preamble. Look at this one. The government of Canada sending financial aid to failing news
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providers to keep them from closing down. That's what they're checking if you support,
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somewhat support, oppose, or somewhat suppose. So is that what will happen if Trudeau gives more money
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to media companies? They won't shut down. They won't lay people off. Is that really what happens
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when you give companies money? I don't think so. You see, the most, there's a newspaper company in
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The Atlantic that publishes most of the newspapers out there. The company's called Salt Wire. They
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have received literally millions of dollars in bailout money from Trudeau, and yet they just laid
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off 250 people. The Toronto Star gets $110,000 per week from Trudeau's bailout. They just laid off 85
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people. So why is Nick Nanos and his pollsters, why are they promising people there won't be any layoffs
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if we just give a few more bucks to the media? That's not how it works. That's not how it has
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worked. Of course there will still be layoffs. The money just goes into the bank accounts of the
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media companies, including Chatham Asset Management in the States. Do you think Chatham Asset Management
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really cares about keeping reporters? I mean, I'm sure they'd like to, all things being equal,
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but all things are not equal. That's not really their business. Their business is making money.
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In fact, their specialty is laying off reporters to save money. That's what they do for a living.
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This poll is a pack of lies. I'm embarrassed for Nick Nanos, and I have to say my esteem for his
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work, which is quite high actually. It's fallen a lot here. That's not a real poll, Nick. I'm embarrassed
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for the National Post publishing such a self-serving left-wing pack of baloney and those crazy quotes.
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The country will die. I'm embarrassed for all the media companies who don't even pretend anymore.
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They want to be crowned corporations. They want bailouts. They want to call
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Justin Trudeau their daddy. And I'm embarrassed for every journalist who agrees to work
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for the government this way. But I have a question. This poll says most Canadians want a bailout
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to newspapers and TV news stations. All right. Well, let's put aside the junk poll I just showed
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you. Let's take this headline at face value. It's great news if it's true. Most Canadians think
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journalism is important, newspapers and TV. Well, that's amazing news. Because in real life here,
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fewer than 1% of Canadians subscribe to a newspaper. Think about it, 37 million of us. Do you know how many
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copies they print every day of Canada's largest newspaper, the Toronto Star? It's by far the
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largest newspaper in the country. 193,000. That's it. On Saturday, it's higher just for that one day,
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290,000. There's six and a half million people in the greater Toronto area. The National Post,
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the Globe and Mail, much smaller. TV stations, the average local TV newscast, suppertime newscast
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of CBC in this country had 12,000 viewers. Not 12 million, 12,000. Nobody cares. Nobody watches.
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Nobody subscribes. So if this poll is right, if we put aside the obvious propaganda in it and accept it,
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well, that's great news. Because then we don't need to reach into the taxpayer's pocket
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to grab our money as a bailout to their friends. Because if suddenly millions of Canadians truly,
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genuinely love the Toronto Star and those Atlantic newspapers and the CBC, and oh my God,
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we must save them to save the country. Well, hallelujah. This is great news. Now go up there
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and start selling your newspaper subscriptions. The fact that a once mighty Canadian newspaper
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like the National Post had to be bought up by a U.S. vulture fund tells me that, yeah, no.
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This poll is just fake news. Stay with us for more.
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I watch CNN. I watch Fox. I watch CBS. And in this case, there's a lot of things not being said.
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It almost certainly is a recombination event that was laboratory-driven.
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This is just the essential nature of Chinese communism. Chinese communism is evil.
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Every person that harms is directly attributable to the Chinese Communist Party.
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Absolutely riveting. A new documentary released just last night, tracking down the origin of Wuhan coronavirus.
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You might have recognized one of those folks there, our friend Gordon Chang.
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The film was produced and broadcast by Epoch Times, which is a newspaper website,
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both published in the Chinese language and in English.
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And it has become my personal source of information for what's really going on in China.
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There's so much inaccuracies being reported by the Western media, either by accident
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or because they negligently rebroadcast without skepticism or corroboration propaganda from Chinese state media.
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The Epoch Times, on the other hand, has dissident sources within communist China
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and, of course, has great journalists outside of them.
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And I'm delighted to bring you, right now, an interview with the host, narrator,
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and lead investigative journalist behind this documentary.
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You know, I recently came across a study by two scholars, two academics in Wuhan,
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claiming that the virus was spread in Wuhan not from a bat in the seafood market,
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but rather from the virus labs that the Communist Party has in Wuhan.
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Why don't you tell us the thesis of your documentary?
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And by the way, we've embedded it on our website.
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So, of course, we all heard the narrative that this virus started in this Wuhan seafood market,
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The Chinese Communist Party lied to the world when they told them that.
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Patient zero, at least the known one, had no connection whatsoever to that seafood market.
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The Chinese Communist Party itself has stopped using that narrative.
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And somehow the whole world has just been satisfied, at least at the government level, it seems,
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has just been satisfied at being lied to with not knowing what the origin was
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or what the intermediary species was, if there even was one.
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And so the question is, where did the virus come from?
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And I think all of us want to know that right now.
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I think not just me, but I assume everyone watching.
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You know, we're getting bombarded with information.
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How do you go and track the origin of these different stories coming out?
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And what do they tell us when you put them all together?
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That was the goal of this documentary, to basically do a full picture of all the credible information
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Look at the real information, the stuff that was deleted by the Chinese Communist Party.
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Look at what whistleblowers in China were saying about the real origin of this virus.
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And yeah, as you mentioned, out of that Wuhan lab itself,
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there were at least two whistleblowers who used their real names and came out publicly
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And somehow that never really got much attention outside of China.
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I mean, this Wuhan virus lab has been in the news before.
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Bizarrely, Canada approved the transfer of the Ebola virus from our research lab to China
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And then there was a startling case of a Chinese national and her students who were frog marched
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out of Canada's top virus lab in suspicious circumstances by our mounted police.
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There was not a full disclosure of what happened.
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But that Wuhan virus lab has been in the news in Canada.
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And I have to tell you, when I heard of this Wuhan virus, I thought, what are the odds?
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What is the sheer statistical likelihood that there was a natural, organic starting of a virus
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in the same city of this virus lab without the connection?
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I mean, it's almost ridiculous to believe there wasn't an involvement.
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Tell us a little bit more about your positive evidence that there was a connection.
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Now, that Wuhan lab, the P4 laboratory is about 20 miles up the street from that marketplace.
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When the Chinese Communist Party declared the virus came from the marketplace, what do they do?
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They go in there and they destroy the evidence.
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Now, if this was a murder mystery and you had a dead body on the ground and there's blood
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and there's bullets, they went in, they got rid of the body, they got rid of the blood,
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they got rid of the bullets, they wiped down all the fingerprints.
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There's no possible way for the international community to go in now and either prove or disprove
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So you're speaking about the seafood market itself.
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The Chinese Communist Party destroyed the evidence with that.
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Patient Zero had no connection to the marketplace.
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The question then comes up, well, what was the origin?
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Well, it just so happens that that laboratory 20 miles up the road from this place, first
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off, yeah, they were starting to study the SARS virus around 2003, 2002, when they were
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The head of that laboratory was one of the top coronavirus, bat coronavirus researchers in
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She had been writing papers about this, Dr. Xi.
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She had been writing papers about this going back years.
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In fact, one of the papers in 2015 described it was a synthetic virus that destroyed, it
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was shown to destroy the lungs of mice that had no known cure.
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The symptoms of that, the nature of that, very closely fit the description of this current
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In addition to that, they talked about how to make bat coronaviruses transmittable to humans.
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That laboratory was on the frontier of this type of research on how do you change the
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The key that allows these viruses to connect to human cells.
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That laboratory was one of the, it was the frontier laboratory doing that kind of research.
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It just so happens now that this new coronavirus, this Wuhan virus or CCP virus as we've been
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calling it, if you look at the actual virus sequence, what does it show us?
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Well, it has a very close match to a bat from, I believe it's Nanjing province.
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Two different parts of it, one's over an 80% match.
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The other is a 100% match to the different proteins.
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Now, that bat coronavirus just so happens to have been submitted to the bat coronavirus
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In other words, a PLA bat coronavirus is the closest match to this one, at least the virus
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Now, what makes, now these bat coronaviruses are not naturally transmittable to humans.
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It's those little spike proteins, the little mushroom looking things coming off the virus.
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It just so happens that that one, the one circulating now, appears to come from the
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SARS virus, which is why they're calling it, you know, SARS-like virus, right?
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And so this bat coronavirus is somehow a recombination, it appears, between this virus that was owned,
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submitted by the Chinese military to the bat, to this coronavirus database, combined,
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recombinated, not mutated, it appears, with the SARS virus.
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So how did the SARS virus join with the bat coronavirus?
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Just so happens that P4 laboratory was doing research on this.
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This is the kind of stuff they were doing there.
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And the fact of the matter that, you know, a virus gets out that just perfectly fits the
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template of exactly what they were publicly saying they were doing at that laboratory spreads
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globally, even fits the description of what people feared would happen if some of the viruses they
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And somehow it's called conspiracy, if you talk about it, at least has been until very recently.
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I think UK government now and some other countries are seriously looking into the possibility
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And I think this documentary really shows that.
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Here, let's take a quick clip from the documentary that discusses exactly this recombination
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After the Wuhan outbreak, Indian researchers compared the S-protein sequence between 2019
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They discovered that 2019 NCOV had four new sequences inserted, all of which can be found
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Although she never denied the existence of the four inserted sequences.
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However, scientists probing GenBank found that there were only three viruses containing
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The second is a bat coronavirus discovered by Shi.
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He's the narrator of this groundbreaking documentary published by Epoch Times.
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Joshua, I can understand why the Chinese government would be absolutely terrified of their role
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It's bad enough that people are dying from a, quote, accident.
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But if this virus was engineered in their labs, if this was a military weapon that was either
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purposefully or more likely accidentally released, I mean, at least Chernobyl in the Soviet Union,
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It just was poorly engineered and there was safety protocols that weren't followed.
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This looks, and you mentioned the People's Liberation Army, this looks like it was a deliberate
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Now, when people talk about bioweapons, they, of course, point to the fact that the Chinese
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Communist Party is a signatory in the Bioweapons Act.
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They have agreed to not develop bioweapons, but even just, I think, 2018, 2019, the State
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The Chinese Communist Party, we knew for a fact they had bioweapons programs going back
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When they signed on to that program, they never even acknowledged the programs that we
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knew they had, let alone showed any evidence they got rid of those programs.
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The State Department was calling out the Chinese Communist Party even very recently, publicly,
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before this whole virus came out, about this, noting even that a lot of the lab research
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In other words, for both civilian purposes and for military purposes, a lot of what they're
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Now, when you're talking about bioweapons programs, let's be clear about this.
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Countries around the world can talk all they want about how they don't have biowarfare programs.
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And so they can run any experiments they want under the guise of defensive programs.
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And when in reality, they can be used for weaponization.
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When it comes to the Chinese Communist Party, though, they've actually been very upfront,
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very public about the nature of their interest in these types of weapons.
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They have, for example, the unrestricted warfare doctrine.
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They've had Chinese generals come out and talk about how they need to develop multiple
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bioweapons for use against the United States specifically.
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In other words, mass extermination of nations is mutually assured destruction.
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It's not practical if you want to actually destroy another nation.
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And somehow I think that a lot of the academic, let's say, community, they tend to write off
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a lot of what these Chinese generals say because it's so extreme, because it's so aggressively
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hostile and violent and horrific that they have trouble believing it.
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But the Chinese Communist Party has never tried hiding the fact that it does this, never tried
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hiding the fact that this is part of their military doctrine and military program.
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And it just so happens, yeah, that now that there is a appears to be a very destructive virus
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that may may have come from a Chinese laboratory, at least the evidence does suggest this, had may
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We know for a fact that the head of China's biowarfare programs took control of this laboratory
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That laboratory is now under the control of the PLA's top biowarfare person.
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And also during the building of the laboratory, a PLA-connected industry took over the construction.
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Of course, they were working with France earlier on.
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And when it comes to possible intentional, sorry, I'm in New York, you'd be amazed how
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But when we talk about possible leaks and possible intention to it, we've shown the documentary
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We look into the actual leadership of this laboratory.
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He was the head of the Chinese Communist Party two leaders ago.
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Jiang Zemin runs a rival faction to the current leadership of the Chinese Communist Party, Xi
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His faction is really probably just as bad, if not worse, than Xi's faction.
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Xi Jinping's whole anti-corruption campaign was purging a lot of people connected to the
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Just so happens now this lab is tied to the Jiang faction, specifically to Jiang Zemin's
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And it just so happens, too, that guess who runs a lot of the medical institutions in
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China, including the one that controls this Western drug that was given to China to treat
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this virus, this Remendisphere, I can't pronounce it, just so happens to be Jiang Zemin's son.
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In other words, the guy who's connected to that laboratory also runs the institutions that
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And so, yeah, there is a very strong possibility in this.
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Let's show a quick clip of the movie in this regard.
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The Wuhan P4 Laboratory was a subsidiary of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is managed
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The director of the laboratory was Juan Ximing, who was also the head of Chinese Academy of
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Design and funding for construction were the responsibilities of the ex-vice presidents of
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Jiang Mianheng from 1999 to 2011 and Chen Zhu from 2000 to 2007.
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Jiang Mianheng was the eldest son of ex-CCP leader Jiang Zemin.
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After Jiang Zemin ascended to power after the Tiananmen Square Massacre, his son entered the
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academy and led the Institute of High Technologies Research and Development.
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Jiang Mianheng created the Shanghai Institute of Life Sciences, and together with China Academy
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of Sciences, Shanghai Colleges and Universities, Shanghai Hospitals, Military Hospitals, and
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Research Institutions formed a profit group of life sciences organizations.
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They controlled China's major life sciences research projects and allocation of massive
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Jiang Zicheng, son of Jiang Mianheng, is the controlling shareholder of Wuxi App Tech, which in turn is
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controlling Fosun Pharmaceutical, China's agent for remdesivir.
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Effectively, Jiang Zicheng is the kingpin behind the specific medicine for the outbreak.
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Meanwhile, Chen Zhu is the current president of the Red Cross Society of China, which had
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We're talking with Joshua Phillip, the host and narrator of this blockbuster documentary.
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Joshua, one of the excuses used by Western political leaders for being unprepared for this virus
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I think they know to distrust anything said by China or the World Health Organization.
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But other leaders, including here in Canada, said, well, the World Health Organization told
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The Chinese government has said only a few thousand people have died out of a mighty country
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What do you think the actual death count in China is?
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Because I find it hard to believe that it was as low as they say.
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I find it hard to credit them when they say there are no more domestic cases.
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Using your sources, what do you estimate the real number of Chinese fatalities is?
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Like I mentioned Chernobyl before, the death count from Chernobyl was nowhere this high.
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I mean, it was a great disruption, great economic disruption.
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It was a great moment of truth for the communist regime.
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But millions of people did not die from Chernobyl.
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And yet, Gorbachev said it was probably the central factor for the fall of the Soviet Union.
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So, Epoch Times, we've been making a lot of phone calls into China.
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We also have a lot of sources on the ground in China.
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You know, we're blacklisted in China, proudly blacklisted, because that means we're telling the truth about them.
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And, of course, you tell the truth, kick you out.
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We actually did have an office in China early on.
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Our editor spent 10 years in prison, and they tortured him.
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That's what happens when you tell the truth in China.
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And so, when it comes to this, of course, we've made phone calls into some of the funeral homes, into the cremation centers.
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And even then, they did not have the capacity to cremate all the bodies.
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The Chinese Communist Party brought in mobile incinerators into the city.
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We know that in Iran, the Iranian government is being accused of covering up the news as well.
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There was a report in The Atlantic that estimated the number of infections in Iran could be 2 million.
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There were other reports showing you can see the mass graves from space.
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And Iran right now is calling out the Chinese Communist Party for lying to them about the lethality of this virus.
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Even Iran, which is a close ally of China, is calling them out for this.
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I saw an early commentator, it was speculation, but I want to bounce it off you,
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who was looking at the demographics of who dies from this virus.
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And there may be some other demographic or ethnic characteristics to it.
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And a theory that was bruited, again, this was pure speculation,
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was that China itself might have a diabolical idea of culling its nonproductive senior citizens from the country.
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I mean, I thought that was an outlandish thing when I heard it,
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that China would actually want this virus to euthanize its old and unproductive population.
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I don't think there was any basis for that other than observation of who this virus kills.
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Do you think there's anything special about how this virus works that was deliberate?
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Or was this just a pure attempt to weaponize a virus and its manifestations are just random?
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I wouldn't put it beyond the Chinese Communist Party.
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When you're talking about targeting with bioweapons, development of bioweapons,
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That's one of the reasons why biometrics can be such an issue.
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You can target viruses in terms of bioweapons at specific, say, races, specific traits of genes.
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If you remember, the U.S. military actually warned,
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there was a warning going out to U.S. military personnel
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because the genealogy analysis of DNA is being sent to these Chinese labs.
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Now, why would the military warn personnel to not do these things
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And so, I mean, yeah, you can do that type of work.
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You can alter a virus to target specific types of DNA,
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I can't remember off the top of my head exactly which companies,
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but yes, a lot of them do process DNA in China.
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Allegedly, when they do it, they don't include the name of the individual.
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But yes, a lot of them process it in Chinese labs.
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One is the health question, but the other is politically.
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about getting out of the World Health Organization.
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I see Taiwan has come out of this looking responsible
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and public-minded, and I really like how Taiwan is looking
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But if China did misbehave in the way that your documentary suggests,
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a disconnect, a disconnecting of industry and security from China,
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a marginalization and maybe even a pariah status of China
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or is their financial clout and military clout just too powerful?
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that the United States appears to be pulling out a lot of companies from China.
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Companies are pulling out themselves from China
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because really they can't manufacture there right now.
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They're realizing now that China is a national security threat on many, many fronts.
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The Chinese Communist Party is hostile towards the West,
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that it will hold medical equipment, essentially ransom,
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unless foreign countries want to cooperate with it.
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China is only saying they'll give them masks if they agree to install 5G from Huawei.
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And so, yes, the Chinese Communist Party is in a very bad state,
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because Taiwan used to be recognized as the official government of China.
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The U.N. was the first to recognize the Chinese Communist Party as the government of China.
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The Chinese Communist Party is a murderous regime.
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Under Mao Zedong alone, killed between 50 million and 70 million Chinese people.
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against, say, people who are critical of the regime,
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people who even spread online, you know, rumors, as they call them,
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information about viruses like this, like the deal with these doctors,
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citizen journalists, people who believe in religion,
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whether it be Muslims or Christians, Falun Gong or Tibetan Buddhists,
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I think the world needs to realize what the Chinese Communist Party is.
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It is not a system that is in any way friendly to us,
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and it is one that is extremely abusive to the Chinese people.
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And I believe this is exposing that in a way that,
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I think everybody's starting to see now the nature of the Chinese Communist Party.
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I want to tell our viewers that we will have a link
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There's the paper, newspaper, that you publish in English.
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Tell us some of the places people can go if they want to go deeper on this,
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websites or other advice you have for our viewers.
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You can find us on the Epoch Times homepage or on YouTube.
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And those are probably the best places for you.
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This documentary certainly puts you, you were before,
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but you're definitely on the top 10 bad guys list for Communist China.
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So stay safe because they are desperate now and your documentary only adds to the pressure on them.
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Congratulations and thank you for coming on our show today.
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you will learn more from that than from anything you've learned in the mainstream media.
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Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about seven things that are better now because of the pandemic.
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There are many people who appreciate alternative points of view from the mainstream,
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and we also spread the word and try to get others thinking critically.
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And even though there's a few of us who are dissenters or critics or independent thinkers,
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banning us from reporting things like his daily pajama briefs outside his house.
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Many companies were failing before the pandemic that could have used a bailout,
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Why is the media getting funding other than Trudeau buying his support group?
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And that's what I talked about today in my monologue.
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I mean, the railway blockades, that wasn't even a natural shutdown of a company.
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The police had no problem with illegal blockades of railways.
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Oh, but my God, if you sit on a park bench in the city of Ottawa by yourself, you'll get a ticket.
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On my interview with Dr. Peter Chang, Ron writes,
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Would you please take the interview with Peter Chang from Taiwan out from behind the paywall
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so viewers can send it to our provincial, federal and provincial health ministers, officers and ministers?
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And we put subtitles on that just to make him slightly easier to understand because of his accent.
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But I was really glad he joined us from Taiwan.
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You know, we tried to send a journalist to Taiwan, but they told us that he would be stuck in quarantine for 14 days
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And I just didn't want to tie up one of our people for 14 days in a hotel in Taipei before they could get out and do a story.
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Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,