Rebel News Podcast - February 25, 2020


Teck oilsands mine is now cancelled — Company cites Trudeau's lawlessness as key reason


Episode Stats

Length

28 minutes

Words per Minute

157.36618

Word Count

4,560

Sentence Count

343

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

Tech Energy Resources cancels a $20 billion oil sands mine that had the support of all 14 local Indian bands and was due to be the largest single project of its kind in Canada. Ezra Levant explains why this is a disaster, and why Justin Trudeau is celebrating.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Terrible news today. Tech mines, tech resources, just canceled the $20
00:00:06.300 billion mining project that had the support of all 14 local Indian bands. Terrible news for
00:00:12.720 employment, for aboriginal reconciliation, terrible news for that. Terrible news for unity.
00:00:18.780 Huge wins for our OPEC oil and gas competitors who've just succeeded in eliminating a huge
00:00:27.480 source of oil. It's a tragedy, really, but Justin Trudeau is celebrating. Pardon me, if you'd like
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00:00:45.660 format and Sheila Gunn-Reed's show and David Menzies' show. Okay, I'll give you the podcast
00:00:49.500 now for my thoughts on the tech resources mine closure.
00:00:57.480 Tonight, after 10 years of regulatory approvals and 100% aboriginal buy-in, the mighty tech
00:01:16.060 oil sands mine is canceled, citing Trudeau's lawlessness. It's February 24th, and this is
00:01:22.600 The Ezra Levant Show.
00:01:25.880 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:29.620 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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00:02:02.540 Anyways, to today's story, of course it was canceled, the Tech Frontier mine, just like
00:02:09.900 the Northern Gateway pipeline was canceled, and the Energy East pipeline was canceled, and
00:02:13.760 the Trans Mountain pipeline has been canceled. This one is particularly huge, Tech Frontier,
00:02:19.680 a $20 billion oil sands mined, proposed by the Canadian mining giant Tech. They're based
00:02:27.000 in Canada, Vancouver actually, so this is about as good as it gets. Canadian jobs, Canadian
00:02:33.020 company, Canadian shareholders. But late last night, the company sent a letter to Trudeau's
00:02:38.560 Environment Minister just canceling the whole $20 billion deal. They were nice about it.
00:02:44.680 I mean, they're still professionals. They're still a publicly traded company. They have to
00:02:49.060 be grown up about things. But they've spent 10 years jumping through hoops, filling out
00:02:54.200 government paperwork, consulting with local Indian bands. 10 years. They passed every test,
00:03:00.400 by the way. They spent more than $1 billion just filling out the application form, really.
00:03:05.300 But they simply aren't going to go forward with the next $20 billion in the absolute malicious
00:03:12.500 anarchy that is just in Trudeau's Canada. The latter talks about a public debate and global warming and
00:03:19.480 things like that. And it's true that Tech's mine would have had very low carbon dioxide emissions if
00:03:25.140 you're worried about that sort of thing. But none of that is relevant to why they canceled. Like I say,
00:03:30.340 they passed all the regulations already. They were approved. They were lawful. They had their permit.
00:03:38.160 It's just that they no longer believe that Canada is a place with the rule of law. At least they don't
00:03:43.020 believe it fervently enough to bet $20 billion of their investors' money on the roulette wheel that
00:03:49.420 when Justin Trudeau's in charge. There is no constructive path forward for the project,
00:03:56.980 they wrote. The situation that has faced Frontier will be faced by future projects and it will be
00:04:03.860 very difficult to attract future investment, either domestic or foreign, they wrote.
00:04:10.180 Yeah, I mean, would you invest your life savings, let's say, in a Canadian oil sands project or pipeline
00:04:15.900 under Justin Trudeau? The strange thing about it was that Trudeau was set to make a final decision
00:04:21.620 on the mine in just a couple of days. And for weeks, liberal MPs, including some in cabinet,
00:04:26.580 have been publicly saying that they want to kill the deal. There were constant leaks from the liberal
00:04:31.700 caucus meetings trying to paint Trudeau into a corner over it. So yeah, Tech just pulled out.
00:04:36.780 I bet there's some deal in place whereby Trudeau gives them $1.1 billion in taxpayers' money
00:04:43.320 to tech to avoid a lawsuit. That's pretty much what Trudeau did when he killed the Trans Mountain
00:04:49.300 pipeline. You don't actually think that's going to get built, do you? I think it's a stitch-up,
00:04:55.960 an inside job. Literally hours before the deal was killed, the province of Alberta signed an agreement
00:05:01.740 with 14 local Indian bands cementing their support for the project, support they had already professed.
00:05:08.080 So this wasn't suicide by Tech. This was a murder. You know, Justin Trudeau has been a disaster when
00:05:16.200 it comes to Aboriginal people. I'm not just talking about how he fired Jody Wilson-Raybould,
00:05:20.320 the first Aboriginal justice minister in history, because she put her loyalty to the law ahead of
00:05:25.480 her loyalty to Trudeau and his McGill frat boy buddies. But his whole shtick, his whole fake talk
00:05:32.700 about reconciliation, it's just acting. It's just another costume. Just a few more lines to read
00:05:38.280 in his dramatic actor voice. We all saw the real Trudeau when a few Aboriginal activists paid, I think
00:05:43.720 it was $1,500 to go to a fancy reception, and they asked Trudeau about a poisoned Indian town that
00:05:51.300 Trudeau had promised to get clean water for, but he just hasn't. Thank you for being here tonight.
00:05:58.140 Thank you for being here. Thank you very much for your donation tonight. I really appreciate the
00:06:10.940 donation to the Liberal Party of Canada. And as we know, the Liberal Party is filled with different
00:06:19.780 perspectives and different opinions, and we respect them all, and our commitment to reconciliation
00:06:23.860 continues to be strong and committed, and we will continue to engage. Thank you, sir, for your
00:06:30.640 donation to the Liberal Party of Canada. I really appreciate you being here tonight. Thank you for
00:06:35.540 being here. That is why we are moving forward on reconciliation in a real and tangible way.
00:06:41.540 Thank you, sir. Thank you for being here tonight. Thank you for highlighting how important reconciliation
00:06:47.100 is. Thank you for being here tonight, sir. Thank you very much for your donation to the Liberal Party.
00:06:53.860 What an absolute disgrace he is. Yeah, we all know what Justin Trudeau thinks about Indians. I mean,
00:06:59.680 they're great for a prop or a woke tattoo like he's got to give him street cred with white liberal
00:07:05.340 women, but he has no time or place for actual Indians. Except as weapons to fight against the oil sands,
00:07:11.900 even if 14 out of 14 Indian bands around the Tech Frontier mine want it. Just like 20 out of 20 Indian
00:07:18.780 bands want the coastal gas link pipeline, the Wet'suwet'en First Nations. Say, you know who loves
00:07:24.760 Indians? Tech does. Hundreds of millions of dollars they've spent in contracts and jobs with Aboriginal
00:07:35.440 people. Countless agreements, training, cultural programs, jobs mainly. If you watch my show a lot,
00:07:44.260 you'll already know that the biggest employers of Aboriginal people in Canada are oil and gas and
00:07:49.360 mining. Of course, first of all, those activities often happen close to where Aboriginal people are.
00:07:55.880 So it's natural. Second, the nature of the work is a good fit. I am so proud of Tech and all the other
00:08:02.280 mining and oil sands and gas and pipeline companies. They're the ones actually doing reconciliation
00:08:09.340 with Aboriginal people. What has Trudeau done other than mock Indians and put on a headdress?
00:08:16.900 The media is the worst, of course. These past weeks, they've peddled disinformation that the
00:08:21.360 railway blockades were either done by Indians or in solidarity with Indians, particularly those with
00:08:26.740 Suatane First Nations up in northern BC where that coastal gas link pipeline is proposed to be built.
00:08:31.500 But of course, that's a lie. I told you that 20 out of 20 bands up there support the pipeline.
00:08:36.740 And when our own Kian Bextie went up there to check it out, who these protesters were,
00:08:41.280 he really saw just a bunch of white guys who had come in from Ontario. It was a fake protest.
00:08:49.520 Look, that guy, that guy there, he's from Ontario. We identified him. They're not real Indians.
00:08:55.880 They're a corporation funded by the Tides Foundation. It's not a real Indian band.
00:09:00.780 How sad. You know, cancelling the tech frontier mine will cost $20 billion in construction jobs
00:09:07.980 and countless billions more in ongoing oil operational jobs. The families that would have
00:09:16.160 gotten that employment, all the taxes paid, $20 billion, just gone. That's a full percent off our
00:09:22.120 GDP, you know. I suppose that'll push the whole country into recession. That's just the loss of
00:09:27.280 $20 billion. That's one percent. But on top of the loss of $10 or $15 billion each for the other
00:09:31.980 three pipelines killed by Trudeau, the $40 billion LNG project that he killed, well, that's over $100
00:09:38.180 billion right there. But everyone else in the world of finance, in the Toronto Stock Exchange,
00:09:44.300 also in New York and London and Hong Kong and Frankfurt, they're all saying,
00:09:48.740 thanks for the heads up, tech. Thanks for the warning. We'll pass on Canada, thanks. No mines,
00:09:58.780 no ports, no bridges, no pipelines, no LNG facilities. We'll go to Donald Trump's America,
00:10:04.520 where they're drilling and fracking and mining like crazy, building pipelines in one year, not 10 years.
00:10:12.140 And other places. Here's a map of tech's operations around the world. You can see they do a lot in
00:10:18.220 Canada, but also in Peru and in Chile. Now, Peru has been in a state of political chaos for years.
00:10:27.880 Riots. Chile, too. They had energy riots for weeks. Remember that? That's why they moved the UN Global
00:10:34.480 Warming Summit. I don't know if you remember, they raised the price of public transit in Santiago,
00:10:40.060 the capital, to pay for some fancy new green buses. People literally rioted. They burned public
00:10:46.580 utilities to the ground. Now, tech is operating just fine in those semi-civil war places like Peru
00:10:56.240 and Chile. No problem. No cancellation of any projects there. Those places are more politically
00:11:03.060 stable than tech thinks Canada is. Tech thinks they can make a go of it down there. They're risky,
00:11:09.480 of course they are. But the risk-adjusted rate of return makes them a winner. Tech can make a go
00:11:16.300 of it down there, but not so in Canada. Tech just can't, in good conscience, plow more of its
00:11:23.840 shareholders' money into Canada, while oil and gas demand has never been higher around the world. So
00:11:29.600 that's just in Trudeau's Canada. I see Jason Kenney is appalled, of course. And well,
00:11:34.540 he should be. But as we've been asking for months, so what? He keeps asking for things from Ottawa,
00:11:42.000 but without an or else. Why would Jason Kenney think that his mortal enemy, Justin Trudeau,
00:11:49.000 the mortal enemy of the West and oil and gas, why would anyone think that Trudeau and his destroyers
00:11:53.640 would do anything differently than they're doing right now? Stay with us for more on this subject
00:12:01.520 with Lauren Gunter. Well, we've spoken about this tech frontier mind several times with our friend
00:12:19.600 Lauren Gunter, so it won't surprise you that he has a new column out today in the Edmonton Sun
00:12:25.320 entitled, Tech Frontier Cancellation, Entirely Trudeau's Fault. It gives me no joy to read
00:12:32.620 through it, but every word of it is accurate. Joining us now via Skype from Edmonton is Lauren
00:12:38.100 Gunter. Lauren, good to see you again. They jumped through every hoop. They threaded the needle every
00:12:46.460 time. Ten years of doing the right thing. $1.1 billion they spent in compliance. 14 out of 14 Indian
00:12:54.920 band said, we want this. And then they looked around and said, what, are we crazy? And they just
00:13:02.240 laughed. I think that's what happened. So Sunday morning, even, the Alberta provincial government
00:13:09.660 signed up the last two Cree nations up in the area of this new mine to environmental agreements with
00:13:18.640 the province. That was a big sticking point, apparently, for the federal government. So the
00:13:23.620 provincial government worked very hard to get these two First Nations to sign on. They did.
00:13:28.400 They make it a big announcement. And then shortly after that, Tech pulls the plug. And I have to say,
00:13:35.320 I'm glad you didn't contact me last night because I was inarticulate. I was so angry about this. I was
00:13:44.100 spitting, man. I even did several radio interviews this morning. And the same thing. I'm tripping over my
00:13:49.820 tongue trying to express just how furious I am about this and how furious I think Albertans are going
00:13:57.240 to be. I mean, we're talking here about 7,000 jobs in the construction phase. 7,000 jobs. This would
00:14:04.560 have, during the construction phase, raised the family incomes of Albertans by $8 billion over about a
00:14:13.780 three-year period. You know, that would be a huge chunk getting back to where we were before the NDP
00:14:20.220 were elected in 2015 and crashed our economy. And this is purely because the prime minister
00:14:28.440 is weak, weaker than any prime minister I've ever seen. And because he came out last Tuesday after his
00:14:36.540 emergency meeting with his operations cabinet committee and said, yeah, I don't know what to
00:14:42.160 do. Let's just wait. Let's just talk some more. Let's let the people who are on the barricades
00:14:47.980 continue to defy court orders and break the law. That seems reasonable. Doesn't it seem reasonable to
00:14:53.360 you? And as a result of that, Don Lindsay, who's the chief executive of Tech Resources, the people
00:14:59.580 behind the frontier oil sands mine said, there's just no point. We don't see a way forward. And this
00:15:08.140 is not something that was building for them for a long time. I mean, I think they've had reservations
00:15:13.240 for a long time. But as recently as early last week, Tech had said, look, yes, oil prices are a
00:15:19.580 little bit depressed right now. But we think over the lifetime of this mine, things will be fine.
00:15:24.700 So it's still economically viable as far as we're concerned. And now, four or five days later, he
00:15:31.540 says, well, events of recent days must mean the blockades have convinced us that there is no way
00:15:38.960 forward. And that that just that that doesn't resonate only for resource industries in Canada. This
00:15:47.160 simply says to the world, don't put your money here. There is no bonus for you. There's no benefit
00:15:54.280 to you to risk your your investment because the federal government of Canada will not have your
00:16:01.060 back. They won't enforce court orders to end blockades. They won't make sure that your shipments
00:16:06.500 get through by rail. They won't make sure that your manufactured goods can be built because all the
00:16:11.580 component parts are coming. It doesn't matter. Some people throw down some burning tires and some
00:16:16.060 wooden pallets on a train track. They'll be frozen with fear about what to do. They won't have any clue
00:16:22.440 and they'll just let it sit there for three weeks. Yeah. You know, I couldn't help but notice
00:16:29.280 that Donald Trump was in India today talking about more trade, 125,000 people meeting him in a stadium
00:16:37.320 and. No costume. The world is focused on other things. America, which used to be so thirsty for our
00:16:45.900 oil. Yeah, they still take oil imports, but now they're a net exporter. Oil production has never
00:16:52.940 been this high around the world. I hate to say it. You know that Chapters Indigo motto, the world needs
00:16:58.560 more Canada. We always say that and there's a bit of self-righteousness and condescension in that.
00:17:04.860 But you know what? The world should have more Canadian oil, but the world ain't waiting for Canadian
00:17:11.300 oil. They're getting it and doing it other ways. And we just missed the moment.
00:17:20.820 A substantial number of Chinese refineries are set up for the kind of bitumen heavy oil that we have.
00:17:30.080 I think we still have great potential to sell to China and other markets around the world,
00:17:36.180 even if we're losing some of our edge in the United States. But the point is not now,
00:17:43.220 is there a market for our oil? The point is, are we just going to beggar our economy so that we can
00:17:48.400 make Greta happen? And I think that's basically what we've become as a country. We've become a
00:17:53.340 country that is quite prepared to shut down its economy in the name of saving the planet, because
00:17:59.940 we think somehow by not moving forward with economic developments, we are going to prevent
00:18:06.080 global warming, which really still today is only shown in elaborate computer models, which cannot
00:18:15.320 even replicate past climate, much less predict future climate. This is such, you see again here,
00:18:22.580 I'm becoming inarticulate, because it is so frustrating to try and talk about this with the
00:18:29.280 people on the other side, because it is religious cant for them now. This is beyond ideology. This is
00:18:36.060 cultish, religious belief, as far as they're concerned. And they would be quite prepared to have all of us
00:18:44.140 sit in the dark without food or jobs, so that they could say, oh, look what we have done to save the
00:18:51.680 planet. You know, it's been interesting watching different people react to their rail lines being
00:18:58.140 shut down. I think Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal don't care when it's some Western thing shut down, but
00:19:06.460 God forbid you shut down their via rail, you shut down their highway, oh my God. Oh, I thought the
00:19:11.960 inconvenience and the frustration would only be felt in Alberta. I didn't think I had to do anything.
00:19:17.320 You know what, I mean, I live in Toronto now, and of course I don't want anyone to be harassed and
00:19:23.780 hassled by these blockades. But it's quite, it's quite evident to me that the electoral compact of
00:19:31.460 Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal for the parties of the left was, we get to be sneering and self-righteous
00:19:39.020 about climate. And Alberta can pay the price. So they love the tech frontier shutdown. They hate the
00:19:44.460 blockades in their neck of the woods. It's not supposed to happen that way. I'm sort of mixing a
00:19:49.320 couple of things there. But let me ask you the question I've been asking Albertans for months,
00:19:55.020 really. After Trudeau was reelected, despite all his corruption, despite everything,
00:20:02.020 the Wexit movement got a lot of attention. And Jason Kenney basically said, well, I'm going to try
00:20:11.700 and fix things from within. But there was no or else. So now, Justin Trudeau punches Jason Kenney in
00:20:20.400 the mouth. And where's the or else? Trans Mountain Pipeline is not going to be built. So where's the
00:20:26.600 or else? And what is, is anything going to change? Are people just going to grouse a bit
00:20:31.480 and go back to normal? I mean, is anything going to happen here? Or is people just going to roll over
00:20:36.600 again? I don't know. It's always tricky when people are economically vulnerable. You know, we tend to
00:20:48.500 think that revolutions happen when people are starving. They tend to happen, actually, when they've
00:20:54.800 started to get some food. Most revolutions in the last 200 years have been middle-class
00:21:02.180 revolutions, people whose economic power has exceeded their political power, and they pushed
00:21:07.400 for more power through revolution, or at least, you know, through radical changes. I don't know. I don't
00:21:15.620 know where we're going to go at this point. It's a little early in the process. But one of the things I am
00:21:21.300 prepared to predict is, the next time somebody decides to put a barricade or blockade on a rail
00:21:27.980 line in Alberta, I don't think you can expect people like Guy Simpson, the unemployed oil worker
00:21:34.800 who pulled down the one outside Edmonton, I don't think you can expect them to be polite.
00:21:38.520 I'm quite worried that people will say, look, there's absolutely no point in me being nice,
00:21:46.540 in me being polite, in me being nonviolent, because every time we do what's asked of us,
00:21:53.600 we're simply spat upon once again. And there's a level of frustration in the province right now that
00:22:01.060 I have never seen before, not even under the National Energy Program with Trudeau's father.
00:22:07.660 Was it as high, I think, as it is now?
00:22:10.000 Well, there is one more thing. You mentioned this just before we turn on the camera.
00:22:14.560 The Alberta Court of Appeal issued its ruling on the constitutionality of Trudeau imposing a carbon
00:22:22.480 tax on Alberta. Jason Kenney obviously opposed what Rachel Notley, his predecessor, supported.
00:22:28.300 And it was, to me, a surprising result. I honestly hadn't followed it that closely. Why
00:22:34.480 don't you tell our viewers a little bit about it? Because you've been following it a bit today.
00:22:37.820 It surprised me, too, for two reasons. One, because the Court of Appeal said that the carbon
00:22:45.260 tax was unconstitutional. I didn't think they were going to do that. The constitution is quite clear
00:22:49.480 that the federal government has the power to tax by any mode or method of taxation. I thought they
00:22:55.240 were going to get free and clear on that alone. But the Court of Appeal, so Court of Appeal struck
00:23:02.400 down the carbon tax. Secondly, it overwhelmingly struck down. I have not seen so clear and forceful
00:23:11.660 a ruling from a court in a very long time. They said if the carbon tax law is allowed to go ahead,
00:23:18.840 it will destroy federalism as it was intended in the constitution. It will make the provinces so
00:23:26.420 submissive to the federal government that there'll be no point in having the provinces. He said the
00:23:31.460 provinces, the majority decision was written by a guy named Tom Wakeling. And he said the constitution
00:23:38.340 makes it clear that the federal government and the provincial government are equal levels of
00:23:44.180 government within their own spheres of power, within their own spheres of authority. And this seeks
00:23:50.600 to intervene in a way never conceived of in the constitution before to allow the feds to come in
00:23:58.840 and make decisions in provincial jurisdiction by claiming that they're trying to solve the climate
00:24:04.620 emergency. And I really I read the decision and I my eyes were wide open. It saved me from having
00:24:13.160 one of the worst days I can remember as an Burton based on the tech decision, because I don't know
00:24:18.880 where this is going to go. It's going to go to the Supreme Court at some point. There's one from
00:24:23.580 Saskatchewan that went to the feds level. There's one going on in Ontario right now, which I expect will go
00:24:29.500 the feds way too. And the Supreme Court's going to have to sort these all out. But, but for now,
00:24:35.980 here, here to the Alberta Court of Appeal. Yeah. Huh. Well, I, I'm pretty pessimistic of what the
00:24:44.440 Supreme Court's going to do. Yeah, I am too. But, you know, today was a nice way to finish off a very
00:24:50.600 otherwise very bad day. Yeah. Well, it'll be interesting to see what happens next. I, I look forward
00:24:56.440 to hearing what our Alberta based reporters, Kian and Sheila, see on the ground. They're very much
00:25:01.680 on the ground. Sheila, especially, she interviewed Guy Simpson and some of his fellow blockade
00:25:08.920 clearers. We, we delivered them each, or Sheila did, a bunch of beer, which I thought was a fun
00:25:14.400 thing. And one of the guys, Zach Lamoureux, was hit by a blockader. So we have agreed to help him
00:25:22.180 sue that blockader for assault. So we're doing our, in a very small way, we're trying to push
00:25:27.980 back against the blockades. Lorne, it's great to see you again. Thanks for taking the time with us
00:25:31.260 today. Good to see you. All right. There you have it. Our friend, Lorne Gunter, senior columnist
00:25:35.980 with the Edmonton Sun. His piece in that newspaper today entitled, Tech Frontier Cancellation Entirely
00:25:42.140 Trudeau's Fault. Stay with us. More ahead on The Rebel.
00:25:44.840 Hey, welcome back on my monologue Friday about Trudeau's bailout media wanting a crackdown
00:25:59.560 on the non-bailout media. Doug writes, the liberal cartel has duped the average Canadian
00:26:04.720 into believing our media should be run by Trudeau, but paid by our hard-earned tax dollars.
00:26:09.400 Wake up, Canada. Yeah. What's so gross about this is that it's all the other
00:26:14.760 media now that are turning against the independent media. They are literally doing
00:26:20.620 Trudeau's bidding for him. It's so gross. Adrian writes, Canadian news sources seem to
00:26:26.720 be between a rock and a hard place. Refuse government money and risk bankruptcy or take
00:26:30.980 the money and tow the party line. Yeah, that would be a rock and a hard place if those were the only
00:26:38.260 two alternatives. I don't believe that we here at Rebel News are facing bankruptcy. I mean,
00:26:45.000 unless we were absolutely steamrolled by a whack of government prosecutions or something. But even
00:26:50.900 then, I think we would survive. So I don't think it's bankrupt or bailout. I think there's plenty of
00:26:58.020 room for private sector media. There are private sector media all around the world. Many media make a lot
00:27:03.900 of money. I think that's the reason why a lot of media are losing money is because they're so boring
00:27:10.920 and liberal and predictable and vanilla. Yeah, Trudeau wants to push us out of business, but he
00:27:17.800 hasn't done so yet. On my interview with conservative leadership hopeful Dr. Leslyn Lewis, Marion writes,
00:27:24.760 I'm very favorably impressed. She's articulate, confident, and willing to answer the tough questions.
00:27:29.260 Well, I'm glad you think so. And we have invited all the leadership candidates to come and talk to
00:27:35.060 us. I think most of them are chickening out. I think Peter McKay, I don't think he wants to. I
00:27:41.120 think we, I got to tell you, he really feels like a liberal to me. Aaron O'Toole personally promised
00:27:46.940 Kian that he'd do an interview with him and he's been dodging him. Hopefully he'll do an interview.
00:27:53.600 And I think there's one other candidate whose name escapes me right now. I'm sorry about that. But
00:27:57.220 yeah, I think the whole leadership contest is looking very depressing.
00:28:02.720 Gloria writes, I don't think much of her. She is evasive on all the important issues.
00:28:08.760 Well, look, I didn't want to grill the woman in my first encounter with her. I wanted to be a little
00:28:12.960 bit more biographical. She had some lines down pat, but on others, I just don't think that she is a
00:28:20.400 seasoned political operator. She's a lawyer and a businesswoman and a scholar too. I don't want to
00:28:27.020 be too harsh on her, but I tend to agree. I don't think that she could go toe to toe in a modern
00:28:33.600 election campaign against Justin Trudeau and succeed, which is a very important test. But I
00:28:39.460 wish her good luck. And we'll see if the other conservative leadership candidates come through
00:28:44.860 our doors. I sort of doubt they will. I think they know that we are conservative and I don't quite see
00:28:50.040 that yet in them. Hopefully I'm wrong. Hopefully I'm wrong. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here
00:28:55.120 at Rebel World Headquarters, good night and keep fighting for freedom.