Thanks to Trudeau's carbon tax, Canadian airlines will stop flying to smaller cities
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Canadian Airlines say they'll have to stop flying to smaller cities when Trudeau's carbon tax takes effect on Oct. 19. I don't know what else to say except that it's a good thing that they don't fly to other cities.
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Tonight, Canadian airlines say they'll have to stop flying to smaller cities
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It's October 19, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it
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Ottawa's carbon tax will send more passengers to U.S. carriers, Canadian airlines warn.
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That headline doesn't actually list the worst part, in my opinion.
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Canada's airlines are warning Ottawa's planned carbon tax will increase airfares,
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reduce flights on marginal domestic routes, and drive passengers to nearby American airports.
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The article quotes from a spokesman for the airline industry group.
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The tax will not only drive up airfares, but could force airlines to cut service on routes
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that are already losing money or are only marginally profitable.
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It would also encourage travelers from cities close to the border to find cheaper U.S. flights.
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A $50 per ton levy on carbon emissions would cost the industry roughly a billion dollars in 2022,
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The airline council represents Air Canada, WestJet, Air Transit, and Jazz.
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By the way, those airlines combined don't earn a billion dollars a year, just in case you're checking.
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I mean, you know that given how many little airlines start and then fail in Canada.
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It's the first thing to be hit in any economic downturn.
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Businesses fly less, business people fly less, people vacation less.
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And all the little regulations airlines are hit with.
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And Canada's biggest airport, Pearson, is famous for some of the highest landing fees
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the airlines have to pay in the world, actually.
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As in, airlines have to pay enormous fees just for the privilege of flying to Toronto.
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What a terrible business to be in, other than for the love of flying.
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And this carbon tax is just going to kill it off.
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At least the routes that are iffy right now, you heard the man.
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Fuel represents either the largest or the second largest cost for airlines.
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And Mr. Bergamini said his members have been investing heavily in more fuel-efficient aircraft.
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Between 2005 and 2016, the industry cuts its fuel for each kilometer flown on domestic flights by 15.6%.
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I mean, newer fleets of aircraft are more efficient.
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But the Global Mail found a pro-carbon tax lobby group.
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There really are those, actually just quite a few of them, to cheer on the higher taxes for airfare.
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It's Preston Manning's group, I'm so embarrassed to say, called the Eco-Fiscal Commission.
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The founder of the Reform Party, who fought against the Kyoto Protocol, is part of this carbon tax push?
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But it is not clear airlines deserve any special treatment because of competitiveness, conserves, says Dale Bougin,
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executive director of the Eco-Fiscal Commission, a think tank that works on pricing pollution.
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I think it is quite likely they will just be able to pass along their costs to the consumers, Mr. Bougin said.
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So, yes, flights might cost more, but I don't see them losing market share to international competitors.
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Dale Bougin is with that pro-carbon tax lobby group.
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He doesn't know anything about airlines or business, really, at all.
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But he actually has an academic degree that touches on economics.
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Surely he would know or have heard about the concept of the elasticity of demand.
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That's a fancy way of saying if the price of something goes up, you're going to buy less of it.
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Just an example, if a flight to Mexico for a holiday is $1,000, maybe 100 people will buy a ticket on that plane.
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But if you jack the price up to $1,500, maybe only 50 people would buy that ticket.
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It certainly wouldn't be the same number because you don't want that flight to Mexico that badly.
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That might mean the whole flight is no longer economic, though.
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Now, that's one thing when it's a holiday flight to Mexico.
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Not that important, but how about when it's a flight to a small Canadian city that barely makes sense for any airline to fly into it now?
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There are some things for which there is very little elasticity in demand.
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I mean, you have to fill up your car to get to work, to drive the kids to school,
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especially if you're in a place without public transit like the country.
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I mean, people will just take a vacation closer to home.
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Business people will use Skype or just talk on the phone instead of flying.
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He works for a lobby group, not a real company with real customers.
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His hubris, oh, just pass it on to the consumers.
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That drips of the elitism that all carbon tax proponents seem to have.
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But his second comment, the Canadian airlines won't lose customers to foreign airlines, it's just wrong.
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Already many budget-conscious Canadians just drive down from Toronto to Buffalo, New York,
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or drive down from Vancouver to Washington State, whether it's to Bellingham or all the way down to Seattle.
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Wouldn't you drive two or three hours to save hundreds of dollars, especially if your whole family was traveling?
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But that only works with flights to the U.S. or to foreign places, right?
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You're not going to drive down to Buffalo if you want to get to London, Ontario, or Whitehorse, or whatever.
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They'll just shut those Canadian routes down because there are no American competitors.
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Rachel Notley announced her provincial carbon tax, and surprise, Greyhound bus lines pulled the plug on so many of their routes in Western Canada.
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I mean, people weren't taking the bus as much, but this was just the final straw.
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Quote, declining ridership is the primary culprit, said Kendrick, who called that an increasing costs, an ongoing spiral that's making it impossible for the company to continue operations.
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Well, fuel just went up with their carbon tax, didn't they?
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So more than 400 people are out of work now at Greyhound, and low-budget travelers are stuck.
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It's not only because of carbon taxes, it's from competition, from other means of transportation, but this is what carbon taxes do.
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In fact, sort of the whole point of a carbon tax, the whole point, isn't it, is to make people change their behavior.
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As with Justin True and Catherine McKenna, and the whole lot of them they always say,
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it's Stéphane Dion's green shift, punish the use of carbon-based fuels so people will stop using them.
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Well, Greyhound stopped using them, mission accomplished, guys.
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And it forced its low-income people to stop traveling at all, mission accomplished, maybe they can bicycle.
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So I guess that carbon tax lobbyist from Preston Manning's group is wrong.
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I mean, you just can't always pass on the cost to people, especially if they're poor people,
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and especially aboriginal poor people who often use Greyhound.
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Just pass on the cost to the customers, just do it.
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I want to take you through a 71-second TV clip of Catherine McKenna in question periods.
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But I have never seen so many stupid ideas jammed into 71 seconds before.
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You could fill a book with it, but she did it in 71 seconds.
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I'm going to play the video, and then I'm going to play it again and stop a few times because it's so nuts.
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But like Dale Boujiam, no one in the media ever pushes back with basic questions calling the bluff here.
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From forest fires in British Columbia to heatwaves in Ontario and Quebec to floods in New Brunswick,
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Canadians know there's a real cost to climate change.
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If we do not take action now, the cost is only going to grow.
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Police say those forest fires she blames on global warming.
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Police say that at least 29 of those fires in British Columbia were caused by arson,
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But Catherine McKenna, despite that news, lies.
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I'm sure it's a lie to blame, I don't know, you because you used gas, you rode a bus, you flew a plane.
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I think it's called lying when you say something that you know is false.
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We have a plan to tackle climate change, to reduce our emissions, to create good jobs, to grow our economy.
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The sad thing is the party opposite doesn't get it.
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They don't understand that there is a huge cost of climate change.
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People that are facing extreme heat, people died this summer because of extreme heat in Quebec and Ontario.
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I've had to call ranchers who've lost their whole ranch because it's burned down.
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I've helped sandbag because there have been floods that have impacted people's homes.
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This is a huge cost and the cost is only going to grow if we don't take action.
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But they also don't understand the economic opportunity in the trillions of dollars.
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If we are smart about this, we can be the country that is providing the clean solutions.
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We are helping businesses save money because guess what?
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We did not get out of the Stone Age because we ran out of stones.
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All right, let's look at that again for a moment.
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We have a plan to tackle climate change, to reduce our emissions, to create good jobs,
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So she said that the carbon tax will tackle climate change, or they have a plan to tackle
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Does the Canadian government actually claim that what they're doing will change the climate?
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I mean, they might actually reduce emissions if everyone stopped driving, could be.
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But will that actually stop or reverse climate change, the weather, the climate?
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No one says you can actually change the world's weather through a tax, or any other human action.
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If we all pay her tax, what will be the change in the weather?
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And I guess the entire parliamentary press gallery, who have let that talking point go
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I mean, they basically say the same as they were under Stephen Harper.
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And yes, the economy is growing at a snail's pace.
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As we showed you yesterday, we got about 2% GDP growth per year.
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Donald Trump's America is growing at 4.1% per year for comparison here.
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They don't understand that there is a huge cost of climate change.
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People that are facing extreme heat, people died this summer because of extreme heat in
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I've had to call ranchers who've lost their whole ranch because it's burned down.
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I've helped sandbag because there have been floods that have impacted people's homes.
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This is a huge cost and the cost is only going to grow if we don't take action.
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That floods and fires are the result of global warming?
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The B.C. police say the 29 fires in that province were from arson.
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Is she attributing those individual events to her theory of man-made global warming?
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She said the cost we all pay is going to get worse unless we take climate action.
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She's seriously saying that if we just pay her carbon tax, it'll all stop.
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That implies it was because of not paying her tax in the first place that those things
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And the tax will be so powerful and so transformative, it'll stop the bad weather.
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How is that any different, any less superstitious than Aztec priests saying, sorry, hate to do
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it, but we have to sacrifice humans and cut out their hearts on top of pyramids.
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Because if you do make the sacrifice, and I'm so sorry for you that you have to, you will
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stop this evil solar eclipse from happening or whatever.
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The forest fire gods are going to continue being angry with us.
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But it's the last point in that 71-second video that is probably the kookiest.
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They also don't understand the economic opportunity in the trillions of dollars.
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If we are smart about this, we can be the country that is providing the clean solutions.
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We are helping businesses save money because guess what?
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A lifelong leftist activist who has never run a business, never lived in the private sector
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First she told you how to change the weather, pay her tax.
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You don't understand the trillions of dollars of opportunities that come with joining the
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Just pay your tax and you'll get trillions of dollars.
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She says all the small smart people are doing it and you know that's true.
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But that last point there, we're helping you save money by being more energy efficient
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and then you can reinvest all those savings in your business.
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And if that were true, if there were a way to save money by cutting back on energy use,
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people would do it without being told to by some politicians.
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You don't need to be told not to buy things you don't need or don't need to be told to
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I think she means we're forcing you to use less energy through carbon taxes, through social
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And so you'll save money and you can spend that money that you can't afford to spend on
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That's actually what these airlines are exactly talking about.
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Forcing people to be energy efficient by making energy so expensive that no one buys it.
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Forcing people to not be able to fly or not be able to even take the Greyhound.
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And hey, guys, you can save all that money you were going to foolishly spend on a Greyhound
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ticket because you can no longer afford to buy a Greyhound.
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The last line I think is the most embarrassing.
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We did not get out of the Stone Age because we ran out of stones.
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We did not get out of the Stone Age because we ran out of stones.
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And does she mean that energy, though, is like the Stone Age, that we don't really need it
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I'm sure one day when we invent the lithium crystals or some other imaginary perfect source
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of energy, I'm sure one day we will stop using oil and gas and coal and other carbon
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By the way, ethanol has carbon in it, obviously.
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That doesn't have fossil fuels in it, but that hasn't replaced oil and gas and gasoline
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One day, maybe, scientists will invent something new.
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It's like alchemy, pretending you can change lead into gold, pretending you can just will
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Except that Catherine McKenna and Justin Trudeau are amongst the biggest fossil fuel users in
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the country that I can see, always jetting around on private jets.
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I promise you, I promise you, they'll keep flying on their private jets long after Air
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Canada and WestJet and Air Transat shut down their flights to Mexico or Nanaimo or Moncton
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We've heard these same cliches from Catherine McKenna for three and a half years now.
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I think people have tuned them out, mainly, but some people have obviously ingested them
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I think we should start criticizing them and calling them out as the fools they are.
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Do you support violence to create this khilafah, this caliphate?
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Do you support violence to achieve the goal of a worldwide ummah?
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Well, what I would say to you is that it could only come to places like Britain and Canada
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Either the people will embrace Islam and they will implement the Sharia, or a section of
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the community will, like the army or, you know, the people in charge.
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There will be a military or an ideological coup.
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Or there could be a conflict like happened in Bosnia and other places.
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The Muslims should end up in a position of authority.
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Or lastly, which is the most likely scenario, is that the khilafah or the Islamic State will
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remove the obstacles in the way of implementing the Sharia outside of its own frontiers.
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So I believe that there are certain ways in which the government would be removed.
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And that was me interviewing him, or trying to interview him at least, a few years ago
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He wants Sharia law in the United Kingdom, and he supports the use of jihadist violence
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A few years after that interview with Anjum Chowdhury, he was arrested, prosecuted, convicted,
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and sentenced for providing support for boosting and recruiting ISIS.
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In the United Kingdom, just like in Canada, parole is easy, especially for terrorist supporters.
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And today, Anjum Chowdhury is back on the streets of London.
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Well, our own Jack Buckby is doing his best to stop that and to turn the tide against that.
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Well, for a couple of weeks now, you have been running a campaign that thousands, more than
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10,000 rebel viewers, mainly in the UK, have signed called jailanjum.com.
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You actually walked right up to the door at 10 Downing Street.
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You knocked on the door and you gave the petition to an officer.
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I know you had to arrange that in advance to get security clearance.
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That's pretty exciting for the 11,000 people who signed your petition, Jack.
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Yeah, it was a really bizarre experience for me.
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I never thought I'd have the chance to knock on that door, but it happened.
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And actually, I was kind of surprised they let me do it.
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A few people have said that to, you know, Rebel Media and Jack Buckby outside Downing Street.
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I'm quite surprised, but we managed it and the petition went in.
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We handed them the petition as well as the results of the opinion poll, which showed 68% of Brits
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And the thing is, and here's the poll on our screen right now.
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And on the other side, only single digits strongly want him released early.
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And you can count on five fingers the percent of Brits who strongly think he should be let out.
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He was sneaked out of prison at what, 4 a.m., I understand.
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Has the media been feasting on this, or are they sort of saying, oh, don't talk about it too much.
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What's the mainstream media been handling this?
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Well, the mainstream media have been talking about it.
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You know, when it comes to the I word, the one person the media are sort of willing to talk about is Anjan.
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It's a lot of other people they're scared of talking about.
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But one thing I will say about it is there's one person right here who's been talking about this for quite a long time
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and running a campaign against it, and I'm the one person that the media certainly hasn't been asking to come on and comment about it.
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There has been uproar that people are not happy about it.
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And when I saw the photo of the bail house that he'll be staying in for the next six months,
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I couldn't help but think as well that it looked much nicer than most flats that people can afford in London.
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I mean, in Canada, at least, when someone is released on parole, as we call it,
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sometimes they have day parole in their own house and have to go back in prison at night.
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Yeah, I imagine other people live there as well in a bail house.
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But he has his own space, and the cost of housing him, protecting him, and monitoring him is not cheap.
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It came out that it's two million pounds a year that we're going to be spending.
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Anjum Chowdhury isn't paying a thing for any of this.
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That's just under 3.5 million Canadian dollars.
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Now, if you divide that by 365 days, that's, if my math is right, that's $10,000 a day.
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I think that's, if my math is right, $10,000 a day.
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Well, it makes sense, because if you have to watch him 24 hours a day around the clock,
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you have at least three shifts of police doing that.
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You have police watching him visually, monitoring him electronically.
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And why does he get protection and not, say, Tommy Robinson, who's actually threatened all the time?
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I mean, there's an obvious threat against Anjum Chowdhury because people are very angry.
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Lee Rigby was killed by one of Anjum Chowdhury's disciples.
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One of Anjum Chowdhury's disciples also committed the London Bridge terror attack.
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So there's people that want to get back at the guy, understandably.
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But, you know, looking at some of the restrictions, I was looking earlier, and we've got things
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like a ban from preaching or attending certain mosques.
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And the first thing I thought about that was, is this the authorities admitting that certain
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And if certain mosques are problems, are the authorities therefore Islamophobic?
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Use of internet will be supervised, blah, blah, blah.
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But the one that really got to me is he can't leave London, which really amazed me because
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honestly, I would say I wouldn't want him in London in the first place.
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The fact that he can't leave London doesn't make me feel any safer.
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London's where he's done his proselytizing and his radicalization.
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Yeah, well, I'd rather him go to, I don't know, not Mosul these days, but let him hang
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out with his buddies in the last tiny holdouts of ISIS in Syria or Iraq.
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If he's not allowed to go to certain mosques, that implies that the government thinks certain
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I know that in other countries, whether it's France, Italy, or even China, but I wouldn't
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use them as a comparator, governments have shut down mosques that are extremist, that
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In the UK, has a mosque ever been shut down for its links to terrorism?
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Have you ever heard of a mosque being shut down?
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No, I've never heard of, I've never heard that happen.
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And even after about 10 years ago, there was a documentary called Undercover Mosque done
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And they ended up getting in trouble for being Islamophobic.
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They found ammunition and all sorts being kept in mosques in the UK.
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And it was Hard Cash Productions and ITV who got in trouble for it.
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And ever since then, anyone who dare talk about mosques and radicalization, they just think
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back to what happened to that documentary crew and production team, and they don't say
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Well, I tell you, I'm glad that The Rebel has been, I mean, we're interested in the UK
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and we have a disproportionate number of viewers in the UK.
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I always say to our Canadian and American viewers, the UK is interesting in itself, but
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it's also a premonition of what will come our way if we don't change the path we're on.
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Let's show that Downing Street clip one more time, because I just thought it was great.
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Everyone knows that 10 Downing Street in Canada, the equivalent is 24 Sussex Drive.
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In America, the equivalent is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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And there you have it, Jack Buckby delivering a petition of thousands of names in the poll
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Do you think that's just going to be thrown right in the garbage?
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Do you think anyone will actually look at that petition?
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Do you think they'll at least look at the poll?
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Because that's an independent third party poll.
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We hired a pollster over there that does polling for reputable TV stations, ITV, Sky News, whatnot.
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Do you think anyone there will at least look at the poll?
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Theresa May, I heard her speaking during a press conference yesterday about Anjum Chowdhury
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I think she knows in her heart of hearts how bad this is.
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And I hope, I hope that she sees her, or at least somebody in the cabinet sees it.
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And you know, Ezra, if more people sign the petition, then maybe I can even go back if
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the names get even bigger and make sure that they do see it.
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That's a good idea for those who haven't signed it yet.
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And I see no reason why people in Canada or the United States shouldn't sign it as well.
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And it was a very exciting moment for me to see the Rebel being represented on the steps
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Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about Canada dropping to number 12 in the
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World Economic Forum's Global Competitiveness Rankings.
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I mean, I tried to show that this was a fairly comprehensive study.
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I was trying to show that this wasn't just like a figure skating judge saying it subjectively.
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But, you know, I don't know how good the measurements was and who did the measurements for each of
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I believe that if anyone from the World Economic Forum would genuinely and truly look at how
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the Canadian government killed, in the last three years, the Northern Gateway Pipeline,
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the Energy East Pipeline, the Kinder Morgan Pipeline, and were it not for Donald Trump,
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If we saw how all these things were killed and fracking's being killed in Atlantic Canada,
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I think we would rate far lower in so many ways, from regulations to litigation to, you know,
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Because remember, this study just came out a couple days ago.
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So I don't think that it would have had all of the recent events of this year in it.
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I don't know that kind of minutia of how this hundreds of pages of report was put together.
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I predict we will fall again next year when this year's business setbacks are included.
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Bruce writes, what a stark contrast between our socialist PM and Donald, Art of the Deal, Trump.
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Well, yeah, and you know, I should play that clip for you.
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But Kanye West, for all of his curiosities and eccentricities,
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He said, Trump is blunt and he says exactly what he means.
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Can you even remember what he says after he says it?
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I've been in a few clunkers and gaffes like you didn't build up.
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Can you tell me a single memorable phrase that Barack Obama said in eight years as president?
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I can think of Ronald Reagan, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.
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I can even think, I mean, even George W. Bush, you know,
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when he was standing on the smoldering ground of 9-11.
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I can hear you and soon the whole world will hear you.
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Can you think of a single thing Barack Obama said in eight years you can remember?
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And that's the difference between a bureaucrat politician, Barack Obama,
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And he says he's had to learn how to communicate so people get it done.
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They know what they're going to be judged on, their achievements.
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So Kanye, and it's weird to take this lesson from a rapper, isn't it?
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He says he has had to learn how to communicate bluntly, clearly,
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to get things done because he's a businessman now with 90 staff.
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Donald Trump, you know, you don't manage hotels, casinos,
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developments, schemes, shows without getting it done, communicating and deciding.
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And I think those same criticisms of Barack Obama apply just as much to Canada,
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even more, because at least Barack Obama had some people in economic councils
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Chrystia Freeland was like a pop journalist writer.
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No one actually ran a business, did a deal, negotiated something.
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I think that Canada is getting worse because there's no grown-up to pull Trudeau back.
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I will concede that someone or something spooked Trudeau into signing the new NAFTA deal
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On my interview with Barbara Kay about trans people in sports, Ruben writes,
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we were witnessing the slow death of women's sports because this can only end two ways.
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Either the powers that be admit there are fundamental differences between men and women,
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or let this continue until women stop participating in organized sports because there's no point
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But I think that you will see, in the next 365 days, a sports competition of some variety,
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whether it's bicycling, as was the case here, or wrestling, or probably weightlifting.
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Like, of all the different sports, there's female weightlifting.
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Some people find that interesting to compete in and to watch.
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That's a perfect example of where men would absolutely dominate.
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Because even a not-so-fit man is going to have more sheer strength than a pretty fit woman.
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Especially if you're talking about people on a couple of standard deviations outside of
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Your average guy is not that much stronger than your average gal.
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But as you move out toward the elites, the difference becomes more pronounced.
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If you were to rank the strongest weightlifters in the world, starting with the absolute strongest
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person in the world, I don't know who that is, and go to the second strongest, the third,
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the fourth, the fifth, the sixth, the sixth, you would go through thousands of people before
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I'm sorry, I'm not being sexist, I'm just saying that one of the differences between
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And so let's say you are the thousandth strongest weightlifter male in the world.
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You're going to come in a thousandth every time.
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But you would immediately be the number one champion of any women's competition.
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There are some activities where men and women physically are actually comparable.
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In some swimming events, women are better than men.
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So here's my point, Ruben, my lengthy little detour.
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Remember, how long before the 10,000th or the 100,000th best guy in weightlifting or wrestling
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or a very power-intensive sport where men would have a biological advantage, how long before
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loser number 100,000 on the men's side says, you know what, I want to win.
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I'm going to say I'm a woman, and I'm immediately going to be a serious contender because of the
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difference, especially in the extremes between strength of new women and women.
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And that is a long way of saying, Ruben, you will see it in the next year that all three
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You will see that in the next year because there's someone out there who is either a real
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transgender person who's working through issues like this Rachel McKinnon obviously is, or a
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faker who just says, you know what, I can call myself a gal, put on a shave and some makeup,
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and I can go and win because it's just gender identity.
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I don't even have to cut off my twig and berries.
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How long before some troublemaking frat boy does it, just as a stunt, how long before
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some YouTuber says, I'm going to do a shtick here, I'm going to do a joke, play a joke on
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the world, emperor has no clothes, I'm going to go to a competition, say I'm a gal, threaten
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them with a lawsuit if they don't let me in, I'm going to win this, and boy, me and my buddies
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Oh, and if you say I'm faking it, I'll see you in court, mister.
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That's a very, very, very long way of saying the day is coming where women's sport is ending.
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That day will be here before the calendar says 2020, expected in the next year.
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I've got a show on Monday, it's a special about why I'm going to the UK, so tune in on Monday
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Tuesday I'll be in the UK with the whole team, and I'll have lots to say then, but have a
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We've got other shows, as you know, Sheila Gunn-Reed, David Menzies, et cetera.
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Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night.