Rebel News Podcast - The truth about David Menzies, Rebel News & Andrew Scheer -

00:00:00.000 Hello, Rebels. A big show for you again.

00:00:03.000 Two things I hope you're looking forward to.

00:00:05.100 First is I have a good talk with my friend Tommy Robinson.

00:00:08.140 Very interesting news out of the UK.

00:00:10.260 He won his fight against John Sweeney of the BBC.

00:00:14.180 But the first, oh, 45 minutes of the show is talking about me

00:00:17.820 and Andrew Scheer and David Menzies and the Rebel and the Conservative Party

00:00:22.260 and what's going on there anyway.

00:00:25.240 So I hope you enjoy that.

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00:00:41.240 It gives you the video version of this.

00:00:43.860 And there's a lot of things I want to show you on video.

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00:00:59.020 All right, here's today's show.

00:01:04.220 You're listening to a Rebel News podcast.

00:01:15.120 Tonight.

00:01:16.000 So what's the deal with David Menzies, Rebel News, and Andrew Scheer?

00:01:19.780 I'll do my best to answer.

00:01:22.000 It's October 1st, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:26.340 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:30.020 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:34.060 The only thing I have to say to the government, the buyer publisher,

00:01:37.880 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:39.960 I've known Andrew Scheer since he was practically a kid.

00:01:48.700 I remember meeting him in his Parliament Hill office right after his election.

00:01:52.480 His mom and dad were there, too.

00:01:54.760 To be candid, it felt a bit like parents dropping their son off at college,

00:01:58.580 making sure he had real food in the fridge and unpacked his suitcases.

00:02:02.780 It really did feel that way.

00:02:03.980 I mean, the lad was only 25, and as we've learned in the past few days

00:02:08.860 from the Liberal War Room, the sum of Andrew Scheer's real-world experience

00:02:13.520 was selling insurance for a few months.

00:02:16.840 I won't say we're close, but I remember that meeting in his office clearly.

00:02:21.700 His dad did as much talking as Andrew Scheer did,

00:02:25.280 and the main subject, I have to tell you, was the pro-life caucus in Parliament.

00:02:30.300 But here's the thing. It was a secret pro-life caucus.

00:02:34.840 As in, Andrew Scheer was a part of it, but it was secret

00:02:38.400 because if word got out about who was in it, they'd be pilloried in the press.

00:02:42.980 I mean, if you think it's hard to be a pro-life Christian in the Conservative Party,

00:02:47.220 imagine how hard it would be to be a pro-life Christian in the Liberals,

00:02:50.640 or even the Bloc or the NDP, though I doubt there are any in those parties,

00:02:55.400 even one once led by a preacher named Tommy Douglas.

00:02:58.620 It's been 15 years since that meeting, but I still remember it

00:03:02.100 because Scheer and his dad were trying to make it memorable for me.

00:03:06.580 They were trying to impress upon me that Andrew Scheer was really, really conservative,

00:03:12.080 not just a fiscal conservative, which everyone claimed to be back then,

00:03:15.380 even some of the Democrats, but that Scheer was also a social conservative.

00:03:20.200 And the fact that he was there with his whole family,

00:03:23.000 and that his father was there in the room, was a sort of chaperone or guarantor,

00:03:27.320 I think that was designed to impress upon me that he was super conservative,

00:03:31.540 and you know it was true, because his whole family was out vouching for him,

00:03:35.360 and he's a family man.

00:03:37.760 But the fact that it was a secret caucus, and that I was being told of all these things

00:03:41.660 in a private face-to-face meeting, that also stands out in my memory,

00:03:45.620 as in, if someone truly has beliefs in politics,

00:03:50.080 if someone believes in something passionately,

00:03:52.060 wouldn't you already know?

00:03:55.000 Isn't joining a secret caucus sort of pitiful, actually?

00:03:59.640 Isn't that proof that you actually don't really have those convictions,

00:04:04.320 or at least none that you're willing to fight for?

00:04:07.100 I didn't have a lot to do with Scheer after that.

00:04:09.720 I mean, no one did.

00:04:10.780 I was involved in the Conservative Party a fair bit over the years.

00:04:14.700 For a while, I did some speech writing for them.

00:04:16.880 I wrote campaign literature for them.

00:04:19.000 I really enjoyed that, and the highlight for me was working

00:04:21.580 in Stephen Harper's War Room in 2008.

00:04:25.160 I really liked that experience.

00:04:26.560 I got to know all the true conservative fighters.

00:04:30.460 Andrew Scheer was never one of them.

00:04:32.300 Like his secret pro-life caucus membership,

00:04:34.720 he really was never on the front lines of anything,

00:04:37.540 because he was the Speaker of the House.

00:04:39.620 The Speaker of the House is not partisan.

00:04:41.560 He never votes, unless it's to break a tie.

00:04:44.060 He doesn't ask or answer questions in question period.

00:04:48.020 He doesn't go into the foyer of the House of Commons

00:04:50.240 to endure questions from a hostile media.

00:04:53.860 He never has to defend anything in public,

00:04:56.000 let alone defend things that are really hard to defend,

00:04:58.880 defend indefensible things, defend mistakes,

00:05:02.080 which is sometimes the job of a loyal partisan.

00:05:05.800 Instead, he led a pretty easy life, actually.

00:05:08.420 Did you know that the Speaker of the House

00:05:09.960 has several free homes courtesy of the taxpayer,

00:05:13.200 including this amazing apartment

00:05:15.820 right in the House of Commons center block?

00:05:19.880 Isn't that cool?

00:05:21.300 That's so gorgeous.

00:05:23.520 And he also has an estate called The Farm

00:05:26.960 in Kingsmere, Quebec.

00:05:29.300 Of course, the real power of the Speaker

00:05:30.860 is his budget.

00:05:33.540 More than half a billion dollars,

00:05:36.020 and it's all run by something called

00:05:37.780 the Board of Internal Economy,

00:05:39.500 chaired by the Speaker.

00:05:40.240 Other parties have their representatives on the board,

00:05:42.740 but it's all done in secret.

00:05:44.460 It's very collegial,

00:05:46.180 since no one's mugging for the cameras,

00:05:48.640 so they all get along quietly, privately.

00:05:51.280 They scratch each other's back.

00:05:52.700 It's called log rolling.

00:05:54.160 So if a liberal MP is sued

00:05:55.920 by a former employee for sexual harassment,

00:05:59.520 he gets his legal fees covered

00:06:01.200 by the Board of Internal Economy.

00:06:02.580 And the Conservatives agree to fund that

00:06:05.480 behind closed doors,

00:06:06.800 because when a Conservative MP

00:06:08.460 gets sued for sexual harassment,

00:06:11.500 they cover him in return.

00:06:13.180 It's all quiet.

00:06:14.040 It's all in camera, as they say.

00:06:16.180 It's all done by consensus.

00:06:18.200 No need to bicker,

00:06:19.780 because there are no cameras.

00:06:21.200 No need to play for an audience.

00:06:22.660 It's all secret.

00:06:23.520 There's no need to be careful,

00:06:24.900 because they don't publish their proceedings

00:06:26.700 in the same way Parliament as a whole does.

00:06:29.020 So it's as clubby as it gets.

00:06:31.320 There's always someone else's money

00:06:32.840 to solve the problem,

00:06:33.880 taxpayers' money.

00:06:35.000 There's no partisan fights.

00:06:36.340 There's no media allowed in there.

00:06:38.140 I'm just saying what it's like

00:06:39.100 to be the Speaker of the House.

00:06:40.580 It's that way for any Speaker.

00:06:43.140 But my point is,

00:06:44.140 other than six months

00:06:45.160 selling life insurance,

00:06:47.100 that's really all Andrew Scheer

00:06:48.560 has done as an adult.

00:06:50.700 And I think it helps to understand

00:06:52.140 how he won the Conservative leadership vote

00:06:54.460 by a squeaker on the very last ballot,

00:06:57.200 not through fighting hard

00:06:58.660 like Maxime Bernier did.

00:07:00.220 But the opposite,

00:07:01.040 just quiet deal-making.

00:07:05.040 Agreeing to defend

00:07:05.820 the Quebec dairy cartel,

00:07:07.300 that's a private deal,

00:07:08.560 the kind of private deal

00:07:09.820 the Board of Internal Economy always did.

00:07:11.820 Private deal,

00:07:12.580 everybody's a winner,

00:07:13.560 make no fuss,

00:07:14.540 let the other guys

00:07:15.220 beat each other up in public.

00:07:16.880 And on the very last ballot,

00:07:18.740 Andrew Scheer won.

00:07:19.860 He was no one's first choice,

00:07:21.320 everyone's second choice.

00:07:23.100 He literally had campaign buttons

00:07:24.860 saying,

00:07:26.140 Andrew Scheer's my second choice.

00:07:27.580 So he won under the radar.

00:07:30.540 Maxime Bernier had the flash

00:07:32.200 and the pizzazz.

00:07:33.640 Andrew Scheer had the quiet calculations.

00:07:36.680 Bernier was the passionate ideologue,

00:07:39.020 fighting for freedom,

00:07:40.120 even against the Quebec dairy cartel,

00:07:42.000 which is quite something,

00:07:43.160 given that Bernier himself

00:07:44.100 is from Quebec,

00:07:44.840 but like Scheer's pro-life support

00:07:46.780 that he preferred to keep a secret.

00:07:49.780 Standing for things boldly

00:07:51.420 isn't really Scheer's top priority.

00:07:53.460 That's why his very first act

00:07:56.060 as leader

00:07:56.480 was to order all of his MPs,

00:07:59.220 including his Alberta MPs,

00:08:00.620 to vote for the UN Global Warming Scheme.

00:08:04.740 He whipped his MPs,

00:08:06.160 including from Alberta.

00:08:07.080 He forced them to do it.

00:08:08.080 It was bizarre,

00:08:08.740 but if his most cherished

00:08:11.040 personal belief,

00:08:12.080 according to his dad at least,

00:08:14.200 was something he wanted

00:08:15.340 to talk about in secret,

00:08:17.380 to keep hidden from the media,

00:08:18.660 why would he fight for anything?

00:08:21.720 At least if he thought

00:08:22.420 there was some momentary benefit

00:08:24.320 to ditching him.

00:08:26.360 Andrew Scheer was never an ideologue.

00:08:28.080 He is a transactional politician.

00:08:30.400 That's what he did

00:08:30.940 for a decade as speaker.

00:08:32.460 Compromise, make deals,

00:08:34.200 pay for things

00:08:34.820 with an untransparent budget.

00:08:37.540 Now, I always liked the guy

00:08:38.820 because he has a likable face

00:08:41.040 in my mind,

00:08:42.460 because I thought it was sort of cute

00:08:43.700 that my big meeting with him

00:08:45.160 was with his parents there.

00:08:46.460 It had an effect on me.

00:08:47.720 It made me think of him

00:08:49.280 as rooted in something.

00:08:51.120 The thing I like the most

00:08:52.360 about him today

00:08:53.120 is the fact that he has

00:08:54.860 a big family.

00:08:56.380 It tells me he's normal,

00:08:57.840 that he actually has to deal

00:08:58.800 with normal issues,

00:08:59.840 a household, being a dad,

00:09:01.440 a budget.

00:09:02.720 As far as I know,

00:09:03.320 he doesn't have two nannies

00:09:05.000 on the government payroll

00:09:05.960 like Justin Trudeau does.

00:09:09.160 I really didn't keep in touch

00:09:10.620 with Andrew Scheer

00:09:11.140 because he wasn't really active

00:09:12.720 in the conservative movement.

00:09:15.020 He was a dealmaker,

00:09:16.000 a compromiser.

00:09:16.680 Tammany Hall,

00:09:18.140 as they'd say in New York.

00:09:19.820 I was more in sync

00:09:20.640 with the guys

00:09:21.160 who fought the battles

00:09:22.620 for conservative ideas

00:09:23.860 like Stephen Harper,

00:09:25.160 not the ones who just reaped

00:09:26.320 the luxuries for power.

00:09:28.760 I know what Stephen Harper

00:09:30.040 stands for.

00:09:30.660 I always did.

00:09:31.780 I know what Doug Ford

00:09:32.720 and Jason Kenney

00:09:33.560 stand for,

00:09:34.240 more or less.

00:09:36.080 I actually don't know

00:09:36.900 what Andrew Scheer stands for

00:09:38.340 other than the dairy cartel.

00:09:40.000 I mean,

00:09:40.500 I can read his daily press releases

00:09:42.020 on the campaign

00:09:42.620 as well as anyone,

00:09:43.400 but none of them ring true.

00:09:45.240 They're all just focus group

00:09:46.360 messages of the day

00:09:47.480 like his support

00:09:48.600 for the UN global warming scheme.

00:09:51.540 I'm not even sure

00:09:52.240 that was focus group

00:09:53.100 or if he was just

00:09:54.340 literally pressured into it

00:09:56.240 on live TV

00:09:57.820 by Evan Solomon

00:09:59.000 as in,

00:10:00.040 Andrew Scheer was so uncomfortable

00:10:01.240 with media scrutiny,

00:10:02.200 so unused to it,

00:10:03.400 so unwilling to fight for things

00:10:05.280 that he just collapsed

00:10:06.200 in like 90 seconds

00:10:08.220 on live TV

00:10:09.040 and let a journalist

00:10:10.220 peer pressure him

00:10:11.880 into changing

00:10:13.320 what he believed.

00:10:14.280 Do you remember

00:10:14.600 this interaction?

00:10:16.040 We will be unveiling

00:10:17.180 a very detailed

00:10:18.060 and comprehensive plan

00:10:19.100 because we believe

00:10:20.020 that Canada has to be

00:10:21.120 part of the solution.

00:10:22.040 We're about a year away

00:10:22.820 from the next election,

00:10:23.520 a little bit more.

00:10:24.200 I guarantee you,

00:10:24.980 we will have a comprehensive

00:10:26.040 message to Canadians

00:10:27.080 that doesn't just focus in

00:10:28.540 on...

00:10:29.280 That will reach,

00:10:30.000 that will reach,

00:10:30.700 I'm just asking

00:10:31.640 because you know,

00:10:32.440 this is the big issue

00:10:33.680 because it ties in

00:10:34.960 with pipelines

00:10:35.500 as you said.

00:10:36.900 The former Harper regulations

00:10:38.720 would not come close

00:10:39.700 to meeting the targets

00:10:41.340 that the Harper government set

00:10:42.520 and you want to keep those.

00:10:43.980 Will you unveil a plan

00:10:45.140 that will actually meet

00:10:46.260 the Paris targets?

00:10:47.260 Of course I will unveil

00:10:48.980 a plan that reaches

00:10:50.420 the targets

00:10:50.940 that we have already

00:10:52.080 voted in favor of.

00:10:53.400 We believe that Canada

00:10:54.480 has to be part of the solution.

00:10:55.600 We want to have,

00:10:56.620 we will,

00:10:57.040 we will have a meaningful plan

00:10:58.220 to reduce emissions.

00:11:00.260 I went back and forth

00:11:01.400 a bit and he caved in.

00:11:02.960 He did not.

00:11:05.380 That was not party position

00:11:06.660 until Evan Solomon

00:11:07.620 pushed him around

00:11:08.380 and so gently,

00:11:09.600 Evan Solomon

00:11:10.140 is pretty polite.

00:11:12.440 That shows a lack

00:11:13.540 of conviction.

00:11:14.240 That goes to a lack

00:11:14.900 of experience

00:11:15.620 pushing back

00:11:16.620 at the media.

00:11:17.160 That goes to his

00:11:17.740 susceptibility

00:11:18.440 to peer pressure.

00:11:19.540 The guy's never fought

00:11:20.240 a fight in his life.

00:11:22.060 Our co-founder here

00:11:23.520 at Rebel News

00:11:24.240 is my friend

00:11:25.240 Hamish Marshall,

00:11:26.240 smart guy,

00:11:27.540 lifelong conservative fighter,

00:11:29.000 real conservative.

00:11:30.340 I worked with his wife,

00:11:31.860 Catherine Marshall,

00:11:32.480 too.

00:11:33.520 She used to be

00:11:34.080 the spokesman

00:11:34.700 for my old group

00:11:35.880 called Ethical Oil.

00:11:37.620 They're a great

00:11:38.340 conservative power couple.

00:11:40.780 Hamish ran

00:11:41.680 Scheer's leadership campaign.

00:11:43.820 We let him do it

00:11:44.600 right out of our

00:11:45.320 Rebel offices

00:11:45.980 as long as he didn't

00:11:47.180 interfere with our journalism

00:11:48.400 as in Hamish

00:11:49.300 was a director

00:11:49.860 of our company

00:11:50.840 doing business

00:11:51.560 and tech things for us

00:11:53.120 and he was based

00:11:54.060 in our office

00:11:54.540 but if it was

00:11:55.300 an Andrew Scheer thing

00:11:56.120 there was what we

00:11:57.220 called a Chinese wall

00:11:58.020 between him

00:11:58.560 and the Rebel News

00:11:59.320 editorial.

00:11:59.820 We interviewed

00:12:02.440 Andrew Scheer

00:12:03.860 as we normally

00:12:04.860 would interview

00:12:05.380 any other politician.

00:12:07.060 Hamish had nothing

00:12:07.800 to do with that.

00:12:08.480 We did that as our

00:12:09.180 own editorial decision.

00:12:10.920 That said,

00:12:11.720 Hamish did bring

00:12:12.560 Andrew Scheer

00:12:13.380 by the office

00:12:14.300 one day

00:12:14.700 to be interviewed

00:12:15.300 by me

00:12:15.980 and I was really

00:12:17.240 looking forward to it.

00:12:18.060 I was very positive

00:12:18.900 about it

00:12:19.540 but it turned into

00:12:21.380 a bit of a disaster.

00:12:22.420 I'm not going

00:12:24.120 to be in the business

00:12:24.800 of trying to participate

00:12:26.320 in an auction

00:12:27.260 of well

00:12:27.800 one party says

00:12:29.240 300,000

00:12:29.940 another party

00:12:30.440 says 400,000

00:12:31.120 I'm not going

00:12:31.460 to try to

00:12:31.880 out but it should

00:12:32.840 be based

00:12:33.640 on logical rationale.

00:12:34.940 Okay, well

00:12:35.240 McCallum has said

00:12:35.960 he's going to

00:12:36.320 jack up the numbers

00:12:37.000 probably by 100,000

00:12:38.180 do you oppose that?

00:12:39.120 Well, what's that

00:12:39.940 based on?

00:12:40.700 I don't know.

00:12:41.140 Yeah, so if it's

00:12:42.140 not based on something

00:12:43.160 logical or coherent

00:12:44.420 then I think it's

00:12:45.060 just a political target

00:12:46.100 aimed at

00:12:46.720 trying to win over

00:12:48.560 a segment of the electorate.

00:12:50.500 I'm not going to

00:12:51.220 do that.

00:12:52.020 One of the constraints

00:12:52.640 Are you against that?

00:12:53.500 Well, I am against

00:12:56.380 a policy that just

00:12:57.520 throws a number out

00:12:58.620 for shock value

00:12:59.460 or to try to

00:13:00.980 gain attention.

00:13:01.680 I want our

00:13:02.100 immigration policy

00:13:02.840 to be based on

00:13:04.220 what the needs

00:13:05.280 of the economy are

00:13:05.840 what the needs

00:13:06.280 of our society

00:13:06.800 and then let's

00:13:07.440 arrive at a number.

00:13:10.040 All right.

00:13:10.800 Now, I tried to

00:13:11.760 press him on

00:13:12.300 what is the number

00:13:13.480 and I tried to

00:13:14.500 press him on

00:13:15.140 if we should have

00:13:15.900 any qualitative

00:13:17.120 tests for migrants.

00:13:18.720 Should they have

00:13:19.600 to be in sync

00:13:20.600 with Canadian values?

00:13:22.460 I must have

00:13:23.240 asked him

00:13:23.780 versions of those

00:13:24.600 questions

00:13:25.140 five times.

00:13:27.280 Take a look.

00:13:28.160 Do you have anything

00:13:28.780 to say about

00:13:29.780 the Syrian migrants

00:13:31.560 or about

00:13:31.940 John McCallum's

00:13:32.620 new numbers?

00:13:34.020 I mean,

00:13:35.040 that's something

00:13:35.580 that I think

00:13:36.100 conservatives,

00:13:36.660 maybe it's just me,

00:13:38.100 but I think a lot

00:13:38.740 of conservatives

00:13:39.120 want to hear

00:13:39.620 something on that.

00:13:40.480 Kelly Leach

00:13:40.800 isn't talking

00:13:41.300 about security.

00:13:41.860 He's talking

00:13:42.080 about values.

00:13:42.680 What's your view

00:13:43.140 on values?

00:13:44.520 Well, McCallum

00:13:45.380 has said he's

00:13:45.800 going to jack up

00:13:46.380 the numbers

00:13:46.720 probably by 100,000.

00:13:48.060 Do you oppose that?

00:13:48.980 Are you against that?

00:13:49.780 Kelly Leach

00:13:50.400 has said

00:13:50.800 before they get here

00:13:52.120 they should be

00:13:53.140 some sort of

00:13:53.740 a value screening.

00:13:55.240 Do you think

00:13:55.580 we should ask

00:13:57.000 any values-laden

00:13:59.820 questions of people

00:14:00.780 before they get here?

00:14:01.700 Just tell me

00:14:02.400 your answer yourself.

00:14:03.180 Do you think,

00:14:03.980 you're saying

00:14:04.680 once people get here

00:14:05.580 integrate them,

00:14:06.320 teach them.

00:14:06.740 I don't think

00:14:07.220 anyone disagrees.

00:14:08.420 But before they

00:14:09.060 even get here

00:14:09.680 should we ask

00:14:10.340 them about

00:14:10.880 their values?

00:14:12.420 Should we ask

00:14:12.880 them about

00:14:13.200 Canadian values

00:14:13.760 before we let

00:14:14.420 them in?

00:14:14.720 I didn't show

00:14:16.600 the full answers

00:14:17.320 there.

00:14:18.060 Take it from me

00:14:18.880 that he did not

00:14:19.620 answer.

00:14:20.400 He bobbed and

00:14:21.060 weaved so I came

00:14:22.360 back.

00:14:22.680 I think that was

00:14:23.160 like seven times.

00:14:24.380 I think I'll re-upload

00:14:25.800 the full version

00:14:27.180 of that interview

00:14:28.040 because it was

00:14:30.100 so frustrating

00:14:30.820 for me and I say

00:14:31.860 again, I was

00:14:32.780 pretty excited to

00:14:33.620 have a sit-down

00:14:34.380 with him.

00:14:35.020 He came right

00:14:35.640 into our Rebel News

00:14:36.440 studio which was

00:14:37.220 fun.

00:14:38.500 But that's what

00:14:39.240 happened when you

00:14:39.720 have me, an

00:14:41.380 ideologue and a

00:14:42.760 fighter, trying to

00:14:44.440 get a straight

00:14:44.980 answer out of a

00:14:45.800 shy transactional

00:14:47.420 politician who

00:14:48.500 probably agreed with

00:14:50.520 me deep down

00:14:51.140 inside but just in

00:14:53.180 his secret pro-life

00:14:55.280 caucus kind of

00:14:56.100 way, he didn't

00:14:57.240 want to talk about

00:14:57.960 it publicly.

00:14:58.500 Needless to say

00:14:59.080 that was the last

00:14:59.720 time Andrew Scheer

00:15:00.880 had anything to do

00:15:01.800 with me because

00:15:03.040 look, we weren't

00:15:04.740 like the other

00:15:05.400 people in a

00:15:07.000 secret board of

00:15:07.780 internal economy

00:15:08.500 meeting where we

00:15:09.860 were out for some

00:15:10.460 payoff, some I

00:15:11.820 scratch your back,

00:15:12.520 you scratch mine.

00:15:13.360 We wanted to know

00:15:14.260 where he stood on

00:15:14.940 key issues and he

00:15:16.260 didn't want to say.

00:15:17.380 He still hasn't

00:15:18.180 said actually.

00:15:20.340 Oh well, he can

00:15:20.840 make his choices,

00:15:21.480 we'll make our

00:15:21.900 choices, we do

00:15:22.520 reporting and we

00:15:23.400 report on him as

00:15:24.280 you know we do.

00:15:25.660 We support anyone

00:15:26.500 who will topple

00:15:27.160 Justin Trudeau.

00:15:27.980 We regret that

00:15:28.980 Maxime Bernier split

00:15:30.160 off into the PPC

00:15:31.260 because we don't

00:15:32.460 like split-ism.

00:15:34.320 Stephen Harper

00:15:34.700 united the right and

00:15:35.620 it's a shame that

00:15:36.160 it has come apart

00:15:36.900 again.

00:15:37.460 I blame both

00:15:38.040 Bernier and Scheer

00:15:38.740 for that, it takes

00:15:39.340 two to unravel like

00:15:41.140 that.

00:15:41.920 I said that Bernier

00:15:42.500 ought to have

00:15:43.080 stayed in the

00:15:43.760 Conservatives and

00:15:44.920 that he likely would

00:15:45.600 have become their

00:15:46.100 heir apparent but he

00:15:47.360 left.

00:15:48.320 So our views are

00:15:49.100 well known.

00:15:49.620 We like Bernier on

00:15:50.500 policy, we like his

00:15:52.040 clarity, his ideology,

00:15:53.180 his charisma, his

00:15:53.800 courage.

00:15:55.020 He's the opposite of

00:15:56.060 Andrew Scheer in many

00:15:56.760 ways but we know that

00:15:57.760 Andrew Scheer is the

00:15:58.440 only candidate whose

00:15:59.960 party has a likelihood

00:16:00.960 of beating Trudeau.

00:16:02.260 This is a secret so

00:16:03.680 we do our job.

00:16:04.360 Sometimes we, you

00:16:06.000 know, do stories like

00:16:07.220 David Menzies did the

00:16:08.000 other day exposing,

00:16:08.980 remember that insane

00:16:09.820 leftist troll in

00:16:11.140 Toronto who did the

00:16:12.400 hoax?

00:16:12.720 Remember the hoax?

00:16:14.200 This is a place of

00:16:15.020 men.

00:16:15.840 This is a place of

00:16:16.800 men.

00:16:17.280 This is a beautiful

00:16:18.020 hoax.

00:16:18.440 I can't believe you're

00:16:21.540 real.

00:16:22.980 You're actually real.

00:16:24.940 You're real.

00:16:27.080 Get the fuck home.

00:16:29.220 Go home.

00:16:30.440 This is a place of

00:16:31.380 men, not for fucking

00:16:32.460 a**.

00:16:33.500 You don't belong here.

00:16:34.620 Get the fuck home.

00:16:36.120 You can't spit on my

00:16:37.060 country.

00:16:38.900 Every media in the

00:16:39.980 country reported that

00:16:41.000 and we said that's not

00:16:42.420 right.

00:16:43.740 That's an obvious hoax.

00:16:46.560 And it was a hoax.

00:16:47.680 Well, David Menzies went

00:16:49.560 to that woman's court

00:16:50.520 case and accosted her

00:16:52.900 and indeed she is a

00:16:54.940 leftist who was trying

00:16:57.640 to embarrass Andrew

00:16:59.120 Scheer and we were the

00:17:00.020 only people who reported

00:17:01.040 it.

00:17:01.860 Ms. Davidson, have you

00:17:02.640 apologized to Andrew

00:17:04.340 Scheer yet?

00:17:06.200 Ms. Davidson?

00:17:07.800 Are you mentally ill?

00:17:09.760 Are you?

00:17:10.500 Huh?

00:17:11.160 Are you mentally ill?

00:17:11.780 I don't think so.

00:17:13.120 How do you not go on?

00:17:14.380 Are you sure you're not

00:17:15.140 going to be ill?

00:17:15.260 Why did your friend do

00:17:16.960 that?

00:17:20.280 Ms. Davidson?

00:17:24.520 Hey, that was assault.

00:17:25.780 That's assault.

00:17:26.880 That's assault.

00:17:27.460 You broke my microphone.

00:17:28.420 That's assault.

00:17:29.300 Huh?

00:17:29.720 That's assault.

00:17:30.320 He's assaulting me.

00:17:31.360 I'm defending myself.

00:17:32.220 I've just witnessed you

00:17:32.880 assaulting him.

00:17:33.380 I'm tired of you idiots.

00:17:34.140 Oh, I'm tired of you.

00:17:35.460 You're using idiots here.

00:17:36.540 Ms. Davidson, have you

00:17:38.380 apologized to any of the

00:17:39.580 people that you assaulted

00:17:40.480 or smeared?

00:17:41.220 Have you got Tourettes?

00:17:42.180 Huh?

00:17:43.340 You're from Tourette's.

00:17:44.620 Ms. Davidson, what was

00:17:46.180 the agenda you had in

00:17:47.240 doing that stunt last

00:17:48.200 month?

00:17:48.740 It was the bursting of

00:17:49.740 the liberal bubble.

00:17:50.740 It was what?

00:17:51.500 The bursting of the

00:17:52.540 liberal bubble.

00:17:54.660 I think she's a little

00:17:56.220 imbalanced, but as you

00:17:58.100 can see, we were the

00:17:58.920 only media in the

00:18:01.120 country fighting against

00:18:03.820 that anti-Andrew Scheer

00:18:05.660 lie.

00:18:06.720 Even though we think

00:18:07.500 Andrew Scheer is too

00:18:08.160 wobbly, this doesn't

00:18:09.820 mean we don't do real

00:18:10.460 conservative journalism.

00:18:11.360 You just saw it.

00:18:11.820 We tell the other side

00:18:12.500 of the story from the

00:18:13.420 media party.

00:18:13.940 You just saw it.

00:18:14.320 That was great, wasn't

00:18:15.140 it?

00:18:16.360 So that's all history, and

00:18:17.520 I tell you all of that as

00:18:18.760 background to yesterday's

00:18:21.120 interaction between David

00:18:22.180 Menzies and Andrew Scheer.

00:18:24.580 Simply put, Scheer and his

00:18:26.020 people kicked out David

00:18:27.260 from a public press

00:18:28.900 conference.

00:18:29.380 They had the police do it

00:18:30.760 for them, and then they

00:18:32.380 had the police arrest and

00:18:33.620 handcuff him.

00:18:34.880 We did a whole show on

00:18:36.060 it yesterday.

00:18:36.540 I just stitched together two

00:18:38.220 other videos I had done that

00:18:39.600 day because making sure

00:18:40.820 David was safe, took up

00:18:42.300 half my time.

00:18:42.940 I was on the phone with

00:18:44.220 the lawyers.

00:18:44.840 Anyways, but I see that the

00:18:45.820 Conservative Party is pushing

00:18:46.860 back, claiming strange

00:18:50.360 things, and I've received at

00:18:52.620 least a dozen emails with

00:18:54.800 different conservative

00:18:56.080 excuses, and I wonder about

00:18:57.840 a few of them, not because

00:18:58.680 I'm trying to be mean, but

00:18:59.560 because they're lying about

00:19:01.620 David and about us, and I

00:19:02.960 think that's wrong, and I

00:19:03.820 want to clear it up.

00:19:04.560 Look, Andrew Scheer doesn't

00:19:05.880 want anything to do with

00:19:06.960 Rebel News, because if he

00:19:09.340 even talks to us, then the

00:19:11.520 media party Mean Girls will

00:19:13.080 be mean to him.

00:19:14.020 That's the only reason.

00:19:15.680 I mean, Hamish told me that

00:19:16.640 directly.

00:19:17.200 If Andrew Scheer talks to

00:19:18.400 Rebel News, then all the

00:19:20.220 Unifor journalists, all the

00:19:21.740 Justin Journos, they just

00:19:23.680 freak out.

00:19:24.180 I mean, like this guy, Paul

00:19:25.620 Wells.

00:19:26.620 If Andrew Scheer ever talks to

00:19:28.340 us, Paul Wells will get very,

00:19:30.860 very mad at him.

00:19:31.840 Remember this?

00:19:32.340 The number one question

00:19:34.320 that came from an awful lot

00:19:35.300 of people when we invited

00:19:36.600 them to say, what would you

00:19:37.480 ask Andrew Scheer was, why is

00:19:40.100 he working with people who

00:19:41.280 were associated with Rebel

00:19:43.100 Media and Ezra Levant?

00:19:44.820 Your campaign director, Hamish

00:19:45.920 Marshall, was a director of

00:19:47.560 the corporation until he

00:19:49.700 became your campaign

00:19:50.400 director.

00:19:52.080 Stephen Taylor is working on

00:19:54.440 social media with you, was

00:19:55.660 also associated with Rebel

00:19:56.840 Media.

00:19:58.000 To what point are you taking

00:19:59.360 on the baggage of Rebel

00:20:01.880 Media when you work with

00:20:03.000 folks like that?

00:20:04.580 Did you hear that Paul Wells

00:20:06.400 said that's the number one

00:20:07.360 question from viewers?

00:20:08.900 Do you believe that?

00:20:10.980 It was the same with Wendy

00:20:12.260 Mesley of the CBC.

00:20:13.900 Remember this?

00:20:15.100 Criticism of you for your

00:20:18.320 links in the past to Rebel

00:20:20.360 Media, which is associated with

00:20:22.220 rather extreme views on Muslims

00:20:24.360 and associations with white

00:20:26.460 supremacists and so on.

00:20:27.800 Your campaign manager now,

00:20:29.220 Hamish Marshall, was directly

00:20:31.180 involved with building Rebel.

00:20:33.280 Why did you choose him to run

00:20:34.820 the campaign?

00:20:35.640 Are you not at all worried

00:20:36.680 about messages of sending out

00:20:38.680 now?

00:20:39.420 I mean, that Rebel has gone so

00:20:40.840 far down this white supremacist

00:20:42.080 path?

00:20:44.680 What a...

00:20:45.880 I'm a Jew, Wendy Mesley.

00:20:48.000 We...

00:20:48.300 What are you talking about?

00:20:49.760 We have people of every race

00:20:51.660 here.

00:20:52.080 You're the one...

00:20:53.500 I don't know.

00:20:54.560 I totally...

00:20:55.660 How is that crazy?

00:20:57.260 But you can see why Andrew Scheer

00:20:59.860 would want to be away from the

00:21:01.360 crazy.

00:21:02.660 But that doesn't mean submitting

00:21:04.220 to the crazy.

00:21:07.020 Do you see my point?

00:21:08.040 Andrew Scheer doesn't know how to

00:21:09.200 handle media...

00:21:10.100 That was a crazy question.

00:21:13.860 But Andrew Scheer has never had

00:21:15.240 practice.

00:21:16.760 When he was Speaker of the House,

00:21:18.160 you saw him cave in in real time

00:21:19.840 to Evan Solomon on global warming.

00:21:21.500 So he will literally do anything

00:21:23.320 to make the mean girl stop being

00:21:25.320 mean to him.

00:21:26.380 Not only will he give them his

00:21:27.680 lunch money, but he'll give them

00:21:29.220 our lunch money.

00:21:30.620 He'll throw us under the bus to

00:21:32.240 appease anyone.

00:21:33.600 That's what happens when you live

00:21:35.380 a life of luxury for 10 years,

00:21:37.380 never fight a fight.

00:21:39.320 Look, Andrew, it's not going to

00:21:40.360 work, buddy.

00:21:40.780 They will never love you as much

00:21:43.640 as they love Justin Trudeau.

00:21:45.540 Last book you've read or the book

00:21:47.080 you're reading?

00:21:47.380 I just finished The Patch, which

00:21:55.400 was Chris Turner's history of The

00:21:58.740 Oil Patch, but I'm also about to

00:22:02.360 start the new Ken Follett, the

00:22:05.180 third book that is the sequel to

00:22:09.220 Pillars of the Earth.

00:22:10.920 That's your nerdy side?

00:22:12.300 No, that's my...

00:22:14.780 Your sci-fi nerdy side.

00:22:15.820 No, no, it's not sci-fi.

00:22:17.260 It's just a sweeping historical

00:22:19.500 epic, I'm sure, but I haven't

00:22:20.720 started it yet, so...

00:22:22.080 What kind of music are you

00:22:23.280 listening to right now?

00:22:24.960 If you have time.

00:22:25.800 Or podcasts.

00:22:26.740 Podcasts?

00:22:27.200 No, I don't.

00:22:28.040 I've tried.

00:22:28.780 I run regularly, and I've tried to

00:22:31.000 do the podcast thing, but it

00:22:33.500 hasn't really...

00:22:34.440 It doesn't really say...

00:22:35.120 I don't like people talking in my

00:22:36.460 ears when I'm trying to run.

00:22:37.520 I like to sort of vibe out.

00:22:40.480 That was the CBC's Rosemary

00:22:41.880 Barton on a platonic date.

00:22:44.880 Right with Justin Trudeau.

00:22:47.040 There's no other way to describe

00:22:48.040 it.

00:22:48.400 I note that today, Andrew Scheer

00:22:50.900 had a private, exclusive interview

00:22:53.520 with the CBC the day after banning

00:22:56.860 and handcuffing David Menzies.

00:22:58.480 They are not going to love you,

00:23:00.620 Andrew.

00:23:01.060 They hate you because you are who

00:23:03.600 you are.

00:23:04.160 They hate whatever

00:23:04.860 conservativeness you actually have

00:23:07.520 left, and they have contempt for the

00:23:10.020 fact that you won't even stand up for it.

00:23:11.740 They'll take whatever you give them

00:23:13.160 by way of surrender, and then they'll

00:23:15.680 campaign for Trudeau anyways.

00:23:17.260 You cannot outbid Trudeau transactionally.

00:23:20.660 He'll always give them more than you

00:23:22.400 can give them.

00:23:24.360 How about just being yourself instead of

00:23:26.500 doing what they say, or being your dad

00:23:28.680 or something?

00:23:30.240 Anyways, I got a lot of emails from

00:23:31.440 conservatives who were shocked by

00:23:32.680 Andrew Scheer's treatment of David Menzies,

00:23:34.640 and a lot of them simply didn't believe

00:23:36.980 it.

00:23:38.580 They said the campaign event yesterday

00:23:40.480 wasn't really a campaign event.

00:23:41.720 It was a private event.

00:23:43.740 It wasn't a media event.

00:23:44.900 They said it wasn't even the

00:23:46.240 conservatives that kicked this out.

00:23:47.660 Some conservative candidates were

00:23:49.380 telling their volunteers that the CBC

00:23:50.900 was kept out too, so it wasn't just

00:23:52.640 to punish the rebel.

00:23:54.460 Those things just aren't true, I'm

00:23:56.440 sorry.

00:23:56.900 You can see the CBC reported the event

00:23:59.820 as a media availability.

00:24:01.980 The National Post reported it as a

00:24:04.460 public appearance.

00:24:07.940 Of course, we are both the public and

00:24:09.320 the media, and they actually brought

00:24:11.640 David right into the event when he

00:24:13.080 arrived.

00:24:14.480 The CBC was there as a welcome guest.

00:24:17.820 Here's their reporter, Salima Shivji,

00:24:20.520 tweeting from the event.

00:24:21.940 She actually tweets the exact moment when

00:24:24.400 a conservative party staffer, Jamie

00:24:25.960 Ellington, kicked out David.

00:24:28.360 Some conservatives said Andrew Scheer

00:24:29.840 wasn't even there.

00:24:31.300 Well, he absolutely was there and gave

00:24:33.320 a press conference and answered

00:24:34.780 questions from other reporters.

00:24:36.780 Some conservatives said David just had

00:24:39.160 to RSVP in advance, but Scheer himself

00:24:42.200 said that Rebel News reporters will

00:24:44.080 never be allowed to come to any of his

00:24:47.800 events.

00:24:48.100 He said that yesterday.

00:24:49.640 Hi, I'm Mitch Potter, Toronto Star.

00:24:52.260 Earlier, just before you stepped in, there

00:24:54.580 was an individual from the information

00:24:56.840 outlet, the Rebel, who was removed from

00:24:59.280 the room.

00:25:00.460 And I think in the distant past, you've

00:25:03.020 engaged with the Rebel.

00:25:04.440 Can you tell us what's changed and how you

00:25:07.020 view that organization now?

00:25:08.620 Well, as I said a few years ago, after some

00:25:11.540 incidents with reporting from that network,

00:25:14.000 that I would no longer be granting interviews

00:25:16.580 to the Rebel.

00:25:17.500 And as for today, this event was open for

00:25:20.420 accredited media outlets.

00:25:23.840 He later compared us to Rabble, which is a

00:25:27.180 group blog.

00:25:28.020 It's not a news organization.

00:25:29.320 I have no beef with Rabble attending any of

00:25:30.820 these journalists.

00:25:31.480 They are journalists of sorts.

00:25:32.920 And they also compared us to Press Progress.

00:25:35.200 This was in Talking Points to Other

00:25:36.440 Journalists.

00:25:37.200 That's a wholly owned armed of the Broadbent

00:25:39.340 Institute's lobby group.

00:25:40.960 We're not those things.

00:25:42.020 But even if we were, why would he ban us from

00:25:44.920 coming into the room to listen to him?

00:25:47.680 How are we any more activists than the

00:25:49.700 Toronto Star or his new friends at the CBC?

00:25:52.420 And what does any of that have to do with

00:25:54.120 David Menzies?

00:25:54.880 I've never seen David Menzies do a report

00:25:57.620 that I wasn't proud of.

00:25:59.480 I mean, once in a while he has some fun and

00:26:01.600 dresses up in a tutu, but that's a different

00:26:04.160 thing.

00:26:04.860 Now, I want to show you two more videos.

00:26:07.800 The first is a video that we published last

00:26:09.740 night after David returned from that event and

00:26:13.920 we downloaded all of his footage.

00:26:15.260 It's the full story of how he was kicked out.

00:26:18.260 Now, I want to show it to you.

00:26:19.860 It's nine minutes long.

00:26:21.920 You saw some of it yesterday, but you didn't see

00:26:24.480 most of it.

00:26:25.040 We didn't have the footage in time.

00:26:26.300 Now, take a look and please come back because I want to

00:26:29.220 show you today's news, which is very, very interesting.

00:26:34.100 So watch this.

00:26:34.960 This is when Andrew Scheer kicked out David.

00:26:36.840 But after this nine minute video of what happened

00:26:39.360 yesterday in the daytime, I want to show you what

00:26:43.040 happened later last night.

00:26:45.840 And we didn't get this video until the morning of when

00:26:48.640 David actually got through to Andrew Scheer and spoke to

00:26:54.300 him late last night.

00:26:57.280 Okay.

00:26:57.620 So I'll see you in nine minutes.

00:26:58.760 This is the update from yesterday.

00:27:00.240 Come right back because I want to show you what happened

00:27:01.800 last night.

00:27:02.420 David Menzies for the Rebel News here in Whitby, Ontario.

00:27:26.340 Well, folks, I'm outside the Ability Centre.

00:27:28.520 This is the venue for a press conference that's going to

00:27:32.700 take place headed up by the Conservative Party leader,

00:27:36.880 Andrew Scheer.

00:27:37.840 I have no idea what he's going to announce as part of his

00:27:41.060 party's platform.

00:27:42.240 Hopefully it's going to be a big announcement.

00:27:43.940 It is exactly three weeks before the federal election on

00:27:48.640 October 21st.

00:27:50.340 And hey, let's put it this way.

00:27:53.120 If the polls are correct, this is a neck and neck horse race.

00:27:57.060 Clearly, Andrew Scheer has to break through.

00:27:59.960 He has to get some good vibrations going.

00:28:02.720 So I'm going to go into the press conference and find out what

00:28:06.800 the leader has to say today.

00:28:12.060 This is not a public event and you are not accredited media,

00:28:14.680 so we're going to ask you to leave, please.

00:28:15.940 How do you get to be accredited media?

00:28:17.820 You need to be accredited by the campaign.

00:28:19.620 You are not accredited media, so we're going to ask you to leave,

00:28:21.480 please.

00:28:21.580 And why is that?

00:28:22.580 You are not accredited media.

00:28:23.740 This is a private event.

00:28:24.520 We are going to ask you to leave, please.

00:28:25.420 Well, you keep saying that, but why am I not accredited media?

00:28:27.260 I'm not doing an interview right here right now.

00:28:28.540 You can get in touch with our press office.

00:28:29.400 Well, that's what I was invited for.

00:28:30.960 You are actually not invited.

00:28:32.260 You are not accredited media.

00:28:33.320 We're going to ask you to leave.

00:28:34.240 You can get in touch with the press office and learn more about our

00:28:36.940 Is this the Andrew Scheer event or the Justin Trudeau event?

00:28:40.540 Mr. Menzies, I'm going to ask you to leave, please.

00:28:42.220 You're not accredited.

00:28:43.140 What is he announcing that you don't want?

00:28:45.320 Who are you, by the way?

00:28:47.300 I'm with the campaign.

00:28:48.320 You're welcome to step outside here.

00:28:49.540 I'll stay here.

00:28:51.740 I'm with the RCMP.

00:28:53.280 It's a private event.

00:28:53.860 Please walk.

00:28:54.240 Sir, please walk.

00:28:55.360 It's a private event.

00:28:55.980 Excuse me.

00:28:56.360 Don't shove me in, all right?

00:28:57.700 I'm not shoving you.

00:28:58.480 I'm asking you to leave.

00:28:59.100 I'm asking you how you get in touch with it, okay?

00:29:01.880 Well, that's the same problem I have.

00:29:03.640 It was a public event, and they're saying no.

00:29:06.360 Oh, they won't allow you in here, sir?

00:29:08.040 No.

00:29:08.580 And why is that?

00:29:10.600 Well, because I want to ask some questions from Andrew Scheer,

00:29:14.160 and they keep on saying no, you can't come.

00:29:16.700 Mm, okay.

00:29:17.700 Completely wrong, completely wrong, and this is a public event.

00:29:21.240 It should be a public event.

00:29:22.980 I see on the TV all the time, people saying they can set up and ask questions.

00:29:27.900 And here they're saying I can't even enter the damn thing.

00:29:30.380 Sir, sir, sir, let's just cooperate.

00:29:34.900 I thought you were calling the police.

00:29:37.500 We are.

00:29:37.840 We'll meet them on time.

00:29:39.840 Okay?

00:29:40.340 Okay?

00:29:40.840 I'll write them.

00:29:41.280 You were asked nicely to leave.

00:29:42.300 So this is free speech in Canada right now, right?

00:29:44.520 But you're not welcome to describe it.

00:29:45.900 I've got my brothers in the media.

00:29:47.500 Are you going to stand up for this, or is there going to be some solidarity?

00:29:51.280 He asked him three times to leave.

00:29:52.820 He doesn't want him or not.

00:29:54.760 I didn't know this was a Trudeau precedent.

00:29:57.000 I thought it was a conservative precedent.

00:29:59.680 Is there anyone going to be in solidarity with me?

00:30:01.880 Any of you?

00:30:02.880 I'm going to have their own police to come in.

00:30:04.540 No?

00:30:04.860 Just wait for their own police to come in.

00:30:07.360 Let's call it up.

00:30:08.380 All right.

00:30:11.280 I hope whatever Mr. Scheer's announcement is, it isn't going to get eclipsed by the sidebar story

00:30:16.020 of all the media covering this physical removal of a journalist.

00:30:21.240 I really hope so.

00:30:24.340 Hi.

00:30:24.820 Hi.

00:30:25.180 Can we have a chat?

00:30:26.220 Pardon me?

00:30:26.700 Can I talk to you, please?

00:30:27.740 Absolutely.

00:30:28.260 Right here, sir.

00:30:28.820 But I want to remain here, because I'm going to try to ask Mr. Scheer directly why, you

00:30:33.180 know, the muscle is strong-arming us out of a press event.

00:30:37.280 Okay.

00:30:38.040 Can we maybe just have a little...

00:30:40.080 I'll stay right here, because I don't want to miss them.

00:30:42.200 So, this is a private event.

00:30:45.080 Okay.

00:30:45.440 It's been hosted here at the Ability Centre.

00:30:47.520 Okay.

00:30:48.380 And the building is ours, and so if you're not a member, I have to respectfully ask...

00:30:55.340 But I am a member of the media, sir.

00:30:56.720 No, sorry.

00:30:57.220 A member of the Ability Centre.

00:30:58.740 Oh, okay.

00:30:59.160 Well, I see dozens of media members right behind the glass.

00:31:03.340 Yes, they are there by invitation.

00:31:04.720 It's their event.

00:31:05.580 They get to choose who is present there.

00:31:08.480 This is the Ability Centre, and for security reasons, I have to ask the respect for you.

00:31:12.400 Security reasons?

00:31:13.340 Yes.

00:31:13.600 You don't have a member...

00:31:13.860 I am a security threat?

00:31:14.940 You are not a security threat I'm aware of.

00:31:17.500 Okay.

00:31:17.780 We have strict protocols that this premises is for members only, or invited guests when

00:31:26.220 we host an event.

00:31:27.240 So, we're not even hosting, actually.

00:31:29.440 We are renting the space.

00:31:30.620 Well, there's only...

00:31:31.320 You've got one option.

00:31:32.820 There are two options.

00:31:33.640 Either you leave by yourself, or we'll have to call the police staff to escort you out.

00:31:38.500 Well, if you feel you want to do that, sir, you know, somehow I'm a criminal, somehow

00:31:43.820 I'm a security threat that you would call the real police to throw me out.

00:31:48.020 I mean, why is that?

00:31:48.740 And I'm sorry, who are you in...

00:31:50.300 I'm the security lead for the Conservatives.

00:31:52.020 Okay, then.

00:31:52.760 And you're not welcome to the event here, and...

00:31:55.240 Can I ask you why, sir?

00:31:56.280 No, I cannot indulge or get into anything further than what I just told you.

00:32:01.000 You're just not welcome to the event.

00:32:01.960 Do you know what the reason is?

00:32:03.160 I have no idea.

00:32:04.000 Okay, then.

00:32:05.040 So, basically, I...

00:32:07.040 That's...

00:32:07.520 Sir?

00:32:07.800 That's right.

00:32:08.220 You have to leave from this premises, and now you're going to have to leave.

00:32:11.000 Well, you know, it's...

00:32:11.940 Sir?

00:32:13.860 Okay.

00:32:14.700 Sir.

00:32:16.460 So, I had requested that you leave.

00:32:20.860 You brought me right to the room, sir.

00:32:22.600 I did.

00:32:23.360 Yes.

00:32:23.720 Because I thought you were an invited guest.

00:32:25.140 Okay.

00:32:25.920 So...

00:32:26.140 Well, I am a member of the media.

00:32:27.580 I understand.

00:32:28.580 I have to, again, please respectfully ask that you leave, because if you don't, these people

00:32:32.760 will have to escort you from our building.

00:32:34.220 You know, I don't know if I'm in Canada right now, or North Korea.

00:32:38.160 Okay.

00:32:38.320 You know, and it's no offense to you officers here, but, I mean, you have.

00:32:42.260 I agree.

00:32:42.920 But you won't answer my question.

00:32:45.180 You leave with no choice.

00:32:46.640 You know, my grandfather fought five years in the Second World War to preserve our freedoms,

00:32:50.800 man.

00:32:50.840 Can you just come with us?

00:32:51.880 All right, then.

00:32:52.460 If I don't, you're going to arrest me?

00:32:53.900 Is that how it works?

00:32:54.200 I mean, if I can charge you.

00:32:55.480 All right, then.

00:32:56.480 Well, that sure didn't go as planned.

00:32:58.660 In fact, I'm in a state of shock, folks.

00:33:01.160 Andrew Scheer and his conservative lackeys actually called the police on me and had me

00:33:08.180 removed from a public venue.

00:33:11.500 As you can see in the back, there is the Team Scheer big blue bus.

00:33:16.880 I'm not allowed to even go in the parking lot.

00:33:18.820 I'll be charged with trespass.

00:33:20.260 That's what the police had told me.

00:33:21.740 So, I'm on a public sidewalk about 120 meters away from the bus.

00:33:26.920 I'm going to see if I can shout out some questions to Andrew Scheer, see if he'll have the intestinal

00:33:32.540 fortitude to answer them.

00:33:34.760 Some of the questions I think should be, when did he start taking censorship lessons from

00:33:40.880 Justin Trudeau?

00:33:42.520 And why is it that the likes of the Toronto Star, the Globe and Mail, the CBC, the so-called

00:33:48.060 mean girls of the media party, they're welcome to these events.

00:33:51.740 With a red carpet, but a conservative leading journalist, has the police frog march him out?

00:33:58.800 And does he indeed believe in freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of expression?

00:34:05.140 He says he does, but I would say that his actions indicate otherwise.

00:34:10.480 In any event, I'm going to attempt to ask those questions to Mr. Scheer before he leaves

00:34:15.580 Whitby.

00:34:16.600 And assuming I don't get arrested, let's see what happens.

00:34:20.120 I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just trying to get a, an answer.

00:34:26.780 Excuse me.

00:34:28.120 Excuse me.

00:34:29.180 I know I'm not part of Jerry Diaz's uniform union, but it'd be nice if you gentlemen, lady,

00:34:36.420 would be, give some solidarity.

00:34:38.460 Can I not talk to these members of the press?

00:34:42.280 Do we have freedom of press here?

00:34:44.580 Do we or not?

00:34:45.200 So, uh, these are your tax dollars, uh, hard at work folks.

00:34:50.020 Um, the RCMP being used to, um, shut down, uh, the practice of journalism, at least to

00:34:57.580 those journalists, uh, who have the temerity to ask impolite questions.

00:35:01.920 So, I guess the, uh, thought police, if you will, has been called in.

00:35:06.580 Again, I'm not, I'm not going to criticize the, uh, Durham regional police here.

00:35:11.480 They're just acting on, um, I presume 9-1-1 calls from the Conservative Party.

00:35:18.280 So, um, they're mulling it over, I guess, right now to find out, um, what they're going

00:35:23.560 to charge me with, I overheard, uh, obstruction of justice.

00:35:28.740 Gee, that, that, that kind of sounds SNC-Lavalin-like, doesn't it, folks?

00:35:34.660 And, um, I'll continue, uh, dispatching here at the Ability Center in Whitby, where I am

00:35:42.020 only trying to do my job, which is practicing journalism.

00:35:46.620 Okay, so that's what happened yesterday during the day.

00:35:49.920 I've never seen a journalist handgun before in Canada.

00:35:53.160 Have you?

00:35:53.560 Even Unifor journalist Andrew Coyne was appalled and pointed out that David's questions were

00:35:58.560 legitimate, and of course they were, and we didn't need Andrew Coyne's permission, but

00:36:02.200 even our competitors are getting grossed out, you know it's bad.

00:36:05.160 Well, short hours later, when he was unhandcuffed, David went to another Andrew Scheer event, and

00:36:11.680 he met that same cop who, well, he said a few things.

00:36:16.920 First, he said David couldn't come in at all.

00:36:19.700 And then he said David could come in, but only if he promised not to ask any questions.

00:36:24.320 Does that sound weird to you?

00:36:26.320 A policeman telling reporters what they can and can't ask?

00:36:30.320 Yeah, that's not Canadian.

00:36:32.880 David points out that other media were there.

00:36:35.000 I don't know.

00:36:36.320 The whole thing seems so weird.

00:36:37.820 But here, watch for yourself.

00:36:38.840 This is David's interaction at the event last night, including with Andrew Scheer.

00:36:45.960 Now, come back, because I've got some things I want to tell you afterwards.

00:36:48.940 Take a look at this.

00:36:49.840 Mr. Scheer, do you believe in freedom of speech?

00:36:52.140 Absolutely.

00:36:52.460 Why did you have me arrested earlier today, sir?

00:36:58.340 David Menzies for the Rebel News here in Brampton, Ontario, just outside the Brampton Lions Club.

00:37:05.500 Well, Andrew Scheer has dropped by to do a meet and greet with the local candidate here.

00:37:10.820 For me, it's been, I don't know, less than six hours since I was roughed up, handcuffed,

00:37:15.480 arrested, and released back in Whitby, Ontario.

00:37:19.740 I'm going to wander into the grounds here and see if I can get an audience with Mr. Scheer.

00:37:25.580 A couple of questions I want to ask him.

00:37:28.260 Why did he do what he did to me six hours ago?

00:37:32.280 And does he or does he not believe in those crazy concepts known as freedom of speech,

00:37:40.880 freedom of expression, and freedom of the press?

00:37:43.860 Let's see how this plays out.

00:37:45.180 Hopefully, I won't be wearing a set of handcuffs and roughed up again.

00:37:50.980 Here we go.

00:37:54.680 Hey, how you doing there?

00:37:57.340 Hi there.

00:37:58.440 David Menzies with Rebel News.

00:38:10.740 What's that?

00:38:11.820 You're not allowed in here.

00:38:12.940 I'm not allowed in here?

00:38:13.700 No, you're not allowed in here.

00:38:14.340 Why is that?

00:38:14.880 Okay, you've been told already that you're not allowed to our events.

00:38:18.400 It's a private...

00:38:18.980 Who are you, sir?

00:38:19.580 I am the security for the Conservative Party of Canada.

00:38:23.180 So, I'm a security threat somehow?

00:38:25.460 Just...

00:38:26.020 Just...

00:38:26.460 Well, folks, it took all of, oh, I don't know, 15 seconds before that security thug that I

00:38:33.980 met earlier today told me that we're not invited.

00:38:37.600 And again, we had the back-and-forth questions go, well, why am I not invited?

00:38:42.520 Well, you're not invited, which is a non-answer.

00:38:46.580 So, I'm here on the grounds in the parking lot, outdoors.

00:38:51.740 We'll see if they're going to...

00:38:52.960 We're going to go through a repeat of what happened this morning.

00:38:55.140 Oh, hello again, sir.

00:38:57.320 How are you doing?

00:38:57.920 Good.

00:38:58.340 We're going to allow you to say, but there's no questions allowed.

00:39:01.100 Oh, really?

00:39:01.460 Yeah, that's right.

00:39:02.320 So, there's no questions allowed.

00:39:03.100 Isn't that the idea of a free press to...

00:39:05.440 Yeah, there's no questions allowed.

00:39:06.740 For all the media?

00:39:07.520 Yeah, for all the media.

00:39:08.660 Oh, okay.

00:39:09.300 Yeah.

00:39:09.800 All right.

00:39:10.020 Just for the earworm.

00:39:11.220 Just harmless questions.

00:39:12.440 I mean, there's no questions allowed.

00:39:14.160 That's just...

00:39:14.960 That's for all the media.

00:39:16.240 And you've set up all...

00:39:17.160 All these cameras are set up with no questions?

00:39:18.860 Right.

00:39:19.200 Just for the...

00:39:20.260 That's right.

00:39:21.220 Well, folks, as you just saw, the security guard that told me to beat it when I first came

00:39:26.520 here says, well, I can stick around.

00:39:30.040 Just can't ask any questions.

00:39:32.660 Oh, Ms. Gossel.

00:39:33.980 Ms. Gossel?

00:39:35.020 Hello.

00:39:35.920 Hi.

00:39:36.280 Hey.

00:39:37.080 David Menzies, Rebel News.

00:39:38.720 Can I ask you, does Andrew Scheer believe in freedom of speech?

00:39:42.680 Of course he does.

00:39:43.680 Okay, then.

00:39:44.680 How...

00:39:45.120 Why was it that earlier today I was let off in handcuffs from his Whitby presser?

00:39:52.240 I have no idea what you're talking about.

00:39:54.100 I'm so sorry.

00:39:54.980 I have...

00:39:55.680 Yeah, we have to get started.

00:39:56.900 Oh, you got to get started?

00:39:57.700 Yes.

00:39:58.020 Okay.

00:40:08.720 Oh, you got to get started.

00:40:23.400 It is such a thrill to be here.

00:40:39.040 Friends, I've got great news, great news.

00:40:45.600 We are halfway to Election Day, halfway to getting rid of Justin Trudeau's son.

00:40:50.600 You can come over here on this side, but not on the stage.

00:40:57.600 But these people are on this stage.

00:40:59.600 They're staff.

00:41:00.600 They're staff?

00:41:01.600 They're media.

00:41:02.600 Well, I can't see.

00:41:03.600 It says CTV on the camera.

00:41:06.600 Mrs. Scheer, do you believe in freedom of speech?

00:41:09.600 No, no, no.

00:41:10.600 Mrs. Scheer?

00:41:11.600 No, no, no.

00:41:12.600 Mrs. Scheer, do you believe in freedom of speech?

00:41:18.600 Absolutely.

00:41:19.600 Mrs. Scheer, do you believe in freedom of speech?

00:41:21.600 Absolutely.

00:41:22.600 You do?

00:41:23.600 Why did you have me arrested earlier today, sir?

00:41:25.600 I'm not going to have one.

00:41:26.600 Mrs. Scheer, why was I arrested earlier today?

00:41:28.600 Mr. Scheer, did you answer that question?

00:41:32.600 Mr. Scheer, you said you absolutely believe in freedom of speech, but you had me arrested.

00:41:37.600 Could you explain that, please?

00:41:39.600 Mr. Scheer, thank you.

00:41:40.600 Mr. Scheer, thank you.

00:41:41.600 Now, this is interesting.

00:41:42.600 I'm trying to ask Andrew Scheer if he believes in freedom of speech.

00:41:45.600 He said absolutely.

00:41:46.600 And he wouldn't answer why he had me arrested earlier today for exercising freedom of speech.

00:41:54.600 And now, as you can see behind me, there's this, like, human wall of Conservative Party security

00:42:01.600 staff, like this fellow here with the Canadian flag.

00:42:07.600 And they're not letting me get any closer to Mr. Scheer.

00:42:12.600 I've already been disciplined by saying you're not supposed to ask any questions.

00:42:17.600 So, in any event, I'm going to try to see if Mr. Scheer will walk past me a little closely

00:42:23.600 and try to press him on this issue of why he has journalists in Canada arrested for asking impolite questions.

00:42:32.600 Mr. Scheer, if you believe in free speech, why did you have me arrested today?

00:42:36.600 Excuse me.

00:42:37.600 How are you doing?

00:42:38.600 Mr. Scheer, if you believe in free speech, why was I arrested today earlier?

00:42:43.600 Can you answer that question, Mr. Scheer?

00:42:45.600 Thank you very much.

00:42:46.600 Can you answer that question?

00:42:49.600 Why are you asking me?

00:42:51.600 Excuse me.

00:42:52.600 Excuse me.

00:42:54.600 Excuse me.

00:42:55.600 What are you talking about?

00:42:57.600 Thank you very much, everyone.

00:42:59.600 Mr. Scheer, can you answer my question?

00:43:02.600 Well, the Andrew Scheer meet and greet here in Brampton has wrapped up.

00:43:05.600 Mr. Scheer is back on the bus going to who knows where.

00:43:09.600 I'm going to see if I can find any of the other local Brampton Conservative candidates.

00:43:14.600 And sure enough, just to the left of me, I do see Ramona Singh.

00:43:18.600 I'm going to go and ask Miss Singh what her position is on freedom of speech.

00:43:25.600 Ramona Singh.

00:43:27.600 Hi.

00:43:28.600 David Menzies.

00:43:29.600 How are you?

00:43:30.600 Good.

00:43:31.600 How are you?

00:43:32.600 Good.

00:43:33.600 Ramona, I'm just trying to get a question answered by Mr. Scheer but he won't answer it.

00:43:35.600 And that is whether or not he believes in freedom of speech.

00:43:39.600 Can you speak for him on that point?

00:43:41.600 Well, I mean the leader has always been open about freedom of speech.

00:43:44.600 It was one of the things that it was a platform for the leadership and it's a big tent party.

00:43:48.600 Absolutely.

00:43:49.600 But you'd have to reach out to him for his own quotes.

00:43:52.600 But he's always been somebody who's been open to that.

00:43:56.600 You may not know this Ramona, but just about six hours ago I was actually arrested in Whitby for attending a conservative press conference.

00:44:05.600 So when it comes to that big tent, I'm just wondering why Mr. Scheer is picking and choosing which media he will speak to

00:44:13.600 and have the media he doesn't want to speak to actually arrested.

00:44:17.600 I can't speak on that.

00:44:18.600 I'm sorry to hear that, David.

00:44:19.600 Yeah.

00:44:20.600 I'm definitely sorry to hear that.

00:44:21.600 Thank you.

00:44:22.600 But I can't speak on that.

00:44:23.600 All right then.

00:44:24.600 Thank you.

00:44:25.600 My apologies too.

00:44:26.600 I guess my visit here could be considered as a measure of progress.

00:44:30.600 For example, although I was initially told to beat it by security, they relented given my stubbornness

00:44:38.600 and said I could stay as long as I didn't ask any questions, mind you.

00:44:42.600 Yeah, a journalist not asking questions.

00:44:44.600 That's kind of like asking a bricklayer not to build a house, isn't it?

00:44:48.600 And when I did get a question asked to Mr. Scheer, it was, do you believe in free speech?

00:44:54.600 He said, absolutely.

00:44:55.600 But he didn't answer the supplemental question, which was, if you believe in free speech, then why did he have me arrested earlier today in Whitby?

00:45:06.600 And I think the silence was deafening to that one.

00:45:09.600 So as much as Mr. Scheer claims he's a free speech advocate, the evidence shows otherwise.

00:45:16.600 And I think these are dangerous waters Mr. Scheer is treading in.

00:45:20.600 If you are conservative, if you are right of center, good golly, surely you believe in freedom of the press

00:45:27.600 and freedom of expression and freedom of speech and freedom to say what you will on campus.

00:45:32.600 But Mr. Scheer might say he supports that.

00:45:36.600 But again, clearly by his actions, he does not.

00:45:40.600 For the Rebel News, I'm David the Menzoid Menzies.

00:45:44.600 Alright, so what's my point?

00:45:45.600 My point is that, look, we're going to do our job as reporters.

00:45:49.600 David has been a reporter for 35 years.

00:45:53.600 He's not going to stop because some cop tells him to.

00:45:57.600 Because a cop says he can come into a political event but not ask questions.

00:46:01.600 Yeah.

00:46:02.600 Now David wants to ask normal questions of all the party leaders.

00:46:05.600 It's not us that's being weird about that.

00:46:08.600 It's Andrew Scheer.

00:46:09.600 And he's being weird about it because the mean girls will be mean to him if he talks to us.

00:46:13.600 And Paul Wells and Wendy Mesley will be mean.

00:46:16.600 Well, Andrew, they're going to be mean to you no matter what.

00:46:19.600 They are mean to you no matter what.

00:46:21.600 They're not going to like you more if you're mean to us.

00:46:25.600 And it doesn't make sense.

00:46:26.600 It's not conservative censorship.

00:46:29.600 And the spectacle of sending cops to silence us really is un-Canadian.

00:46:34.600 I mean, we all freak out when liberals or New Democrats try to censor journalists.

00:46:38.600 Why would we not freak out when conservatives do it?

00:46:41.600 We're not actually freaking out.

00:46:42.600 We're the ones being normal.

00:46:44.600 Normal journalists don't shut up because police tell them to.

00:46:47.600 At least not in Canada.

00:46:48.600 Normal journalists ask politicians questions that politicians maybe don't like.

00:46:53.600 If you can't handle David Menzies, who's a pretty friendly guy, how are you going to handle, how are you going to manage as Prime Minister Donald Trump or Vladimir Putin or Xi Jinping?

00:47:07.600 You can't just pout and hide from them.

00:47:10.600 Look, be for freedom.

00:47:11.600 Be for free speech.

00:47:12.600 Stand up for things, including standing up to the mean girls in the media party.

00:47:16.600 Don't throw us under the bus because that's how your enemies want you to be.

00:47:20.600 You're not a Speaker of the House cutting backroom deals with the opposition anymore.

00:47:23.600 You've got to be a leader now.

00:47:25.600 You have to stand for something.

00:47:27.600 That means you're going to have some enemies.

00:47:29.600 We're actually not your enemies, Andrew.

00:47:31.600 I know you're trying to make us your enemies.

00:47:33.600 We're actually the closest thing you have to a friend.

00:47:37.600 Stephen Harper let the Sun News Network die just before the 2015 election campaign.

00:47:42.600 That wasn't just a crying shame.

00:47:44.600 It surely was one reason he lost the election so badly.

00:47:48.600 He had no allies, certainly not at the CBC.

00:47:51.600 If you can't see that Rebel News does more real accountability journalism, holding the left to account, holding the other media to account, telling the other side of the story, then you're blind as a bat.

00:48:04.600 We're not going to stop doing journalism.

00:48:06.600 We're not going to stop coming to your events or any other party events.

00:48:10.600 We'd just rather ask questions about real things rather than asking questions about us and why you call the cops on us.

00:48:17.600 But hey, you do you and we'll do us.

00:48:22.600 Stay with us.

00:48:24.600 An interview with Tommy Robinson on his great victory day is next.

00:48:29.600 Hey, remember when I went to Manchester about a year ago, Tommy Robinson was unveiling his own documentary called Panodrama.

00:48:52.600 Obviously a knockoff of the word Panorama.

00:48:55.600 Now Panorama is the name of a famous documentary program on the BBC.

00:49:01.600 I'd say it's a little bit like 60 Minutes.

00:49:04.600 When 60 Minutes targets you, you better be careful because they're going to put in massive investigation resources.

00:49:11.600 Top journalists.

00:49:12.600 Well, that's what Panorama was in the UK and their lead reporter is this guy, John Sweeney.

00:49:20.600 Well, John Sweeney, he was dispatched to do the final job of snuffing out Tommy Robinson in the British media.

00:49:30.600 He was hunting Tommy, but Tommy stung the stinger.

00:49:37.600 What I mean by that is Tommy detected that John Sweeney was working secretly with lobby groups, was offering to pay people to say bad things about Tommy.

00:49:47.600 So instead of just making a legal threat or giving his spin, Tommy stung the stinger.

00:49:53.600 What I mean by that is he sent in some of his friends and they wore hidden microphones and cameras and they recorded John Sweeney and his misconduct.

00:50:05.600 And so right before Panorama was going to release their hit piece on Tommy, Tommy released Panodrama showing what he had learned about them.

00:50:18.600 That was riveting. Of course, one of the themes of Panorama was that Tommy Robinson is a racist, Tommy Robinson is far right.

00:50:25.600 Amazingly, John Sweeney is the one who was caught making outrageously racist comments.

00:50:31.600 Here are a few of them. Here's John Sweeney, the man who came to bury Tommy as a racist, making comments about Muslims.

00:50:40.600 Do you need to do a cab too?

00:50:43.600 I mean, I pre-book because the dog makes it more difficult.

00:50:48.600 Alright.

00:50:49.600 The...

00:50:51.600 You know wine, don't you?

00:50:53.600 Wine?

00:50:54.600 Because...

00:50:55.600 Oh, wine?

00:50:56.600 Yeah.

00:50:57.600 Asian camera drivers don't like taking dogs. It's crazy.

00:51:04.600 How dare you? How dare you? Where's my phone? Say that on camera, right?

00:51:10.600 Racist.

00:51:11.600 No.

00:51:12.600 I...

00:51:13.600 Um...

00:51:14.600 True.

00:51:15.600 It's true.

00:51:16.600 Here he is making fun of Greeks.

00:51:18.600 Here he is mocking the Irish.

00:51:25.600 I have a little more... I have more of a common autonomy than most Irish courses.

00:51:31.600 Yeah.

00:51:32.600 Are you scumbag Irish background?

00:51:33.600 That's fun.

00:51:34.600 I don't know if you know what's going on there. It's a mashup between the undercover footage

00:51:38.600 of John Sweeney riffing on every minority group and then John Sweeney himself being shown himself.

00:51:45.600 He didn't realize he was recorded in his... he is ashen. Here he is talking about gays in a derogatory way. Take a look.

00:51:46.600 Because they've not gone out and just had a mate that's gay. That's the difference.

00:51:49.600 So you've got people working like all these different places in the UK or whatever.

00:51:50.600 And they're like, I don't know what's going on there. I don't know if you know what's going on there.

00:51:52.600 It's a mashup between the undercover footage of John Sweeney riffing on every minority group and then John Sweeney himself being shown himself.

00:52:02.600 He didn't realize he was recorded in his... he is ashen. Here he is talking about gays in a derogatory way. Take a look.

00:52:10.600 Because they've not gone out and just had a mate that's gay. That's the difference.

00:52:15.600 So you've got people working like all these different places in the UK or whatever and they're sort of...

00:52:20.600 They've not just had a gay mate. Have they never met a conservative MP? No.

00:52:27.600 I remember one line in particular. She said, well, what do you think about LGBT or something?

00:52:32.600 And I said, well, some of the stuff that gay people say is just ridiculous. And that's me being...

00:52:37.600 That's okay. By the way, there's nothing wrong with it. You said something worse, I guess.

00:52:41.600 Probably. That's the way that I would speak to Kaylin. They're just ridiculous.

00:52:45.600 That's the way that I would speak to Kaylin in a bar, you know, like...

00:52:48.600 They're ridiculous that they should be shot?

00:52:51.600 Well, yeah, exactly. No, obviously.

00:52:53.600 No, I know, but did you say it?

00:52:55.600 No. Good. That's the thing. Because unbeknownst to...

00:52:59.600 I would say that, by the way. I would...

00:53:02.600 They should be shot!

00:53:04.600 What are we talking about? Oh, yeah, Joe's dick pics.

00:53:06.600 Are you gay? Is he gay?

00:53:08.600 My gay doll's rubbish.

00:53:10.600 Who's a Bertie Watt there, is he?

00:53:12.600 Who's a Bertie Watt there, is he?

00:53:14.600 Who's a Bertie Watt there, is he?

00:53:16.600 Very, very embarrassing.

00:53:18.600 It's one thing to be embarrassing, though.

00:53:20.600 It's one thing for a man that's hunting Tommy Robinson to call him a bigot.

00:53:24.600 To basically go through every single possible checkmark, gays, Irish, Greeks, Muslims.

00:53:32.600 I mean, that's just rudeness.

00:53:34.600 He would hang Tommy Robinson for any one of those things.

00:53:37.600 But I think where it moves from mere rudeness to deeply unethical, maybe even illegal conduct,

00:53:45.600 is offering that undercover lady there, Lucy, cash or other consideration if she makes a false claim against Tommy

00:53:55.600 that he had a Me Too sexual misconduct moment with her.

00:53:59.600 Take a look at this.

00:54:01.600 I'm like a silly little man.

00:54:03.600 And stuff.

00:54:04.600 I'm just shouting at him.

00:54:06.600 Yeah, but...

00:54:08.600 Oh, we loved that.

00:54:10.600 It was quite bad.

00:54:12.600 Could we have that?

00:54:13.600 It might drop you in it.

00:54:15.600 I'll have to think.

00:54:16.600 It will drop me in it.

00:54:17.600 Everything will drop me in it.

00:54:18.600 Not necessarily.

00:54:20.600 It was really bad.

00:54:24.600 We have this great big argument in Woburn High Street.

00:54:28.600 Yeah, maybe.

00:54:31.600 I suppose that I did give to the lawyers and they said,

00:54:34.600 well, actually, this for the case doesn't really work

00:54:37.600 because you're just having a dispute.

00:54:39.600 It doesn't really...

00:54:40.600 Whatever.

00:54:41.600 But I thought I'd recall it just in case.

00:54:45.600 Maybe I'll do that.

00:54:47.600 That's...

00:54:49.600 Um...

00:54:50.600 It's only audio.

00:54:51.600 It's only audio.

00:54:52.600 That's fine.

00:54:53.600 How angry did it get?

00:54:54.600 Thank you.

00:54:55.600 Can I have to get all the side, please?

00:54:57.600 He gets really angry and then he runs away and gets in the car

00:55:00.600 and drives off.

00:55:01.600 And I shout after the car.

00:55:03.600 It's really bad.

00:55:04.600 We can clip that a bit.

00:55:05.600 We can clip that a bit.

00:55:06.600 We can clip that a bit.

00:55:07.600 My view about that is that, um...

00:55:10.600 Um...

00:55:13.600 I think doing a kind of...

00:55:16.600 A kind of gender...

00:55:19.600 A kind of sexual...

00:55:22.600 thing...

00:55:23.600 I guess...

00:55:24.600 I don't know what it means to me.

00:55:26.600 A person on...

00:55:27.600 So they just had an argument.

00:55:28.600 Lucy was actually shouting at Tommy, but he said, no, no, no.

00:55:32.600 Let's make it a gender thing.

00:55:33.600 Let's make it a sexual thing.

00:55:35.600 That's deep misconduct.

00:55:37.600 Well, when Tommy Robinson revealed that he had stung the stinger in his own movie, Panadrama,

00:55:42.600 that's where these clips are from, it was like a bombshell went off.

00:55:46.600 The BBC said they were going to produce the documentary, but they never did.

00:55:51.600 It was too compromised, journalistically and probably legally.

00:55:55.600 And John Sweeney of Panorama, well, he never was really seen again until today,

00:56:02.600 when I saw these three tweets from him.

00:56:05.600 After 17 years, I'm leaving the BBC.

00:56:08.600 It's high time to make trouble elsewhere.

00:56:11.600 And then he has the next tweet.

00:56:13.600 Next tweet, he says, thanks to my great pals at the BBC.

00:56:18.600 Together we helped free five people here.

00:56:22.600 Trump got challenged there.

00:56:23.600 Putin here.

00:56:24.600 Okay, so he's going through his greatest hits.

00:56:26.600 But then what's his third tweet?

00:56:28.600 I'm sorry our Panorama on Tommy Robinson wasn't broadcast.

00:56:33.600 I paid for all the drinks, by the way.

00:56:36.600 So after 17 years, I can finally say these are not the views of the BBC,

00:56:39.600 but he's a complete C blank blank T.

00:56:42.600 I remember I remain an old school reporter, up for the right kind of trouble.

00:56:46.600 I'll be back.

00:56:47.600 Yeah, sure you will, mate.

00:56:48.600 Actually, I think he probably will be.

00:56:50.600 There's a great demand for journalists who tow the line against any conservative populist like Tommy.

00:56:56.600 I bet he'll be hired by Al Jazeera.

00:56:59.600 But it's amazing to me.

00:57:01.600 Imagine if some grassroots citizen journalist in America were to take down 60 Minutes,

00:57:08.600 were to take down in Canada Bob Fyfe of the Globe and Mail.

00:57:11.600 It's unthinkable.

00:57:12.600 But that's just what Tommy did.

00:57:14.600 And he joins us now.

00:57:16.600 Here, take a look.

00:57:17.600 And joining us now is the man who ought to be taking a victory lap, our friend Tommy Robinson.

00:57:25.600 Tommy, great to see you again.

00:57:27.600 It's good to be seen again, Ezra.

00:57:29.600 Tommy, I tell you, I opened up my Twitter today and I absolutely was not expecting to see a John Sweeney,

00:57:36.600 the top investigative journalist at the top investigative show on the whole BBC, was sacked.

00:57:43.600 And in his goodbye rant, he mentions you in particular.

00:57:48.600 You brought down Goliath.

00:57:51.600 You took out John Sweeney.

00:57:53.600 You stung the stinger.

00:57:55.600 I'd ask the BBC again.

00:57:57.600 I'd still want to know, where is your documentary?

00:58:01.600 They couriered a letter to my front door to let me know that a documentary was due to be screened on me in the coming weeks.

00:58:09.600 It was at that point that I produced my panorama and showed everybody, where is your documentary?

00:58:15.600 Yeah.

00:58:16.600 Why haven't you screened it?

00:58:18.600 I know a lot of people are saying that I should be happy.

00:58:22.600 What's taken nine months?

00:58:25.600 We gave evidence to the entire world of the lead face of the tax funded BBC making false sexual allegations against me.

00:58:37.600 He was trying to do a Me Too story against me.

00:58:39.600 He was constantly lying.

00:58:41.600 He was being homophobic.

00:58:43.600 And yet the amazing thing still for me, Ezra, is that not one single British journalist talked about what we uncovered.

00:58:53.600 The biggest expose on the BBC in history.

00:58:57.600 Not one mention from any journalist anywhere in the country.

00:59:02.600 Even so, I sat down with a lead journalist for The Telegraph, a lead journalist who used to work for the Sunday Times.

00:59:08.600 And I showed him all the old undercover footage before we put our documentary out.

00:59:13.600 And he couldn't believe it.

00:59:14.600 He said, this is massive.

00:59:16.600 This is huge.

00:59:17.600 He took that footage back.

00:59:19.600 He then rang me up and said, our editor says no.

00:59:22.600 I said, how can that be?

00:59:24.600 Yeah.

00:59:25.600 How can that be that you won't even talk about it?

00:59:28.600 So it just shows that they're all in it together.

00:59:30.600 It's complete corruption.

00:59:31.600 But you're right.

00:59:32.600 John Sweeney's gone.

00:59:33.600 He's gone.

00:59:34.600 In his final leaving statement, he showed how a year later we know why he's gone.

00:59:40.600 It's because he has not been seen on the BBC since we exposed him.

00:59:44.600 Yeah.

00:59:45.600 It's unbelievable.

00:59:46.600 I mean, I'm trying to get Canadians and Americans to understand who John Sweeney is in the UK.

00:59:52.600 I mean, I had never heard of him in Canada, but he would be like our Bob Fyfe.

00:59:56.600 He would be like Woodward and Bernstein in the United States, the Watergate reporters.

01:00:01.600 He is the guy.

01:00:03.600 If John Sweeney is hunting you, be careful because he's going to get you.

01:00:07.600 Well, he was hunting Tommy, but Tommy captured him.

01:00:10.600 Tommy, you bagged him.

01:00:12.600 I've never heard of such a turnabout ever.

01:00:16.600 So your viewers understand, he was the face.

01:00:21.600 He's the face.

01:00:22.600 He is Panorama.

01:00:23.600 And Panorama can go on to make more shows.

01:00:26.600 They've lost all their credibility.

01:00:28.600 Everything they've ever done must now be questioned because we proved that they were staging things,

01:00:34.600 setting things up, telling people what to say in interviews about me.

01:00:37.600 They were working.

01:00:38.600 This documentary was supposed to finish me.

01:00:41.600 When it didn't, when it didn't, we've seen the course of events.

01:00:44.600 When it didn't, when I produced my documentary in 24 hours, I was made invisible to the world.

01:00:50.600 I was removed from all social media.

01:00:52.600 I was banned from all social media.

01:00:54.600 And then within a week of all of this, they relaunched their charges against me for the second time and subsequently got me put back in prison in Belmarsh, which I was released, I think, two weeks ago from.

01:01:08.600 Yeah.

01:01:09.600 Well, I tell you, I just, when I saw this on Twitter, I couldn't believe it.

01:01:12.600 I couldn't believe that he was gone.

01:01:14.600 I couldn't believe that he was blaming you.

01:01:16.600 And I know that this will not be covered in the mainstream media because they don't want to acknowledge the scandal that you documented in Panodrama.

01:01:25.600 Well, listen, I wanted to have you on to say congratulations about that.

01:01:28.600 But while we have you, this is the first time you and I have talked since you got out of prison.

01:01:33.600 And I take it you've had a chance to renormalize with your family, with your friends.

01:01:38.600 Can you give us a bit of an update on what you're doing in terms of projects?

01:01:43.600 Do you have any news for your fans in North America?

01:01:46.600 I do.

01:01:47.600 Ezra, to be honest, this is the first time I've done anything.

01:01:52.600 I wanted to come out of prison and, you know, in fact, I came out of prison and I attempted to do a couple of things.

01:01:58.600 And when I come out of prison last time, last year, I'd done months of social confinement.

01:02:03.600 And then I went the next day, I went on holiday for two weeks.

01:02:06.600 Right.

01:02:07.600 So I continued to lay down next to a pool for two weeks.

01:02:12.600 I continued to.

01:02:13.600 When I come out this time, I tried to go full on into doing everything I wanted to do and going everywhere I wanted to go.

01:02:20.600 And I think I think I should have had a bit more relaxed time and time down to get back into it.

01:02:26.600 So so and I realized that myself when I attempted to do a couple of things.

01:02:29.600 So I've just and I've also I want my children.

01:02:33.600 I haven't been at home.

01:02:34.600 I've been away.

01:02:35.600 I miss last summer.

01:02:36.600 I miss this summer.

01:02:37.600 I want my children to feel secure.

01:02:39.600 Yeah.

01:02:40.600 When I was in prison this time, I was getting stories of how my son was if there was a noise.

01:02:46.600 He was he was scared.

01:02:47.600 So I just want them to feel that daddy's home.

01:02:51.600 I've been literally taking my children to school.

01:02:54.600 I've been taking them to my son goes boxing a few times a week.

01:02:57.600 He plays football.

01:02:58.600 My daughters go dance.

01:03:00.600 I've just made sure I want them to feel that I'm home and I'm here and that they feel secure again with it comes to when it comes to work.

01:03:09.600 I've got so many plans, ideas for documentaries.

01:03:13.600 I've got one nearly finished, which was Shalom, which was just to show about a Jewish gentleman in London.

01:03:21.600 Yeah.

01:03:22.600 Who was a British man who was persecuted to death.

01:03:25.600 So I've got that.

01:03:26.600 Yeah.

01:03:27.600 But I've also I want to make I've spoke I've spoke publicly about the rape of Britain, but the reason why I haven't started the rape of Britain yet is to do that documentary.

01:03:36.600 I need to move into these towns and seas.

01:03:39.600 I need to move into four weeks at a time.

01:03:42.600 I'm going to do that.

01:03:43.600 I'm happy to do that.

01:03:44.600 It's also a risky.

01:03:46.600 As soon as I go there, it's quite it's quite a high risk of confrontation.

01:03:49.600 And I know that it's quite a high risk of police pressure.

01:03:52.600 They will want to stop me.

01:03:53.600 I know all of that.

01:03:54.600 So I've already made a conscious decision to start that after Christmas.

01:03:57.600 Yeah.

01:03:58.600 For the sake the sake I want.

01:03:59.600 I've sort of come to a little agreement with my wife that up until after Christmas is when I'll go on the road.

01:04:05.600 But I have got another documentary as well.

01:04:08.600 I know this is going to go bang as well.

01:04:10.600 I'm going to categorically prove to people and actually confront the liars of the fake news.

01:04:17.600 I've got six different six different people, six different stories, six different broadcasters with evidence that I can categorically prove they're completely lying and have been for many years about myself.

01:04:32.600 So that's one of the things I want to work on just because you know what it is.

01:04:35.600 So many people who follow my story, you know who I am.

01:04:38.600 You know what's happened.

01:04:39.600 You follow the details of what's happened.

01:04:41.600 People who don't know.

01:04:42.600 So all these I have supporters across the UK who when they mention me to their friends or their family or colleagues or anything like that, they get bad reactions.

01:04:51.600 And that bad reaction is because of the hit job that the corporate media have been doing against me for a decade.

01:04:58.600 And I'm actually I'm sitting there now as we're watching the way Boris Johnson is under attack.

01:05:03.600 Right.

01:05:04.600 Right.

01:05:05.600 And I'm sitting thinking you're being you're being Tommy Robinson's.

01:05:09.600 Yeah.

01:05:10.600 You've got a woman.

01:05:11.600 You've now got groping claims against him.

01:05:14.600 You've got the this is from a lady who's if I'm right, her husband is in media who's part of the remain.

01:05:22.600 So all of these things, all of the things I've seen against me, Boris Johnson, if you now follow certain media is an extremist.

01:05:29.600 He's a he's a group of thugs.

01:05:32.600 He's a racist.

01:05:33.600 He's a bigot.

01:05:35.600 He's a sexual deviant.

01:05:37.600 All of these things, which I'm sitting there thinking, I'm wondering if Boris is feeling this.

01:05:42.600 And Jeffrey Cox, because Jeffrey Cox was the was the attorney general who pushed the charges against myself.

01:05:51.600 I was convicted in a political decision by a court that was political.

01:05:55.600 Right.

01:05:56.600 And I sat there grinning and smiling.

01:05:59.600 Think when when the Supreme Court made a political decision against the conservative government.

01:06:05.600 Right.

01:06:06.600 Well, how does that feel?

01:06:08.600 Because, you know, it's not right.

01:06:09.600 The decision they've made, you know, they're not following the law.

01:06:12.600 You know, they're making a decision based on their politics to go against you.

01:06:16.600 And it's exactly what Jeffrey Cox done.

01:06:17.600 And I don't know if you watch Jeffrey Cox speech the next day in Parliament after this decision.

01:06:22.600 And as much as I feel grieved with what I feel Jeffrey Cox and the British government have done to me.

01:06:28.600 He gave some amazing and amazing speech.

01:06:31.600 Yeah, I saw that here.

01:06:32.600 Let's just play a quick clip of it.

01:06:33.600 We'll just put it right here.

01:06:34.600 Take a look.

01:06:35.600 This parliament is a dead parliament.

01:06:39.600 It should no longer sit.

01:06:42.600 It has no moral right to sit on these green benches.

01:06:46.600 Twice they have been asked to let the electorate decide upon whether they should continue to sit in their seats while they block 17.4 million people's votes.

01:06:58.600 Folks, this parliament is a disgrace.

01:07:04.600 Let me tell them the truth.

01:07:06.600 They could vote no confidence at any time.

01:07:10.600 But they're too cowardly to have a go.

01:07:16.600 They could agree to a motion to allow this house to dissolve.

01:07:21.600 This parliament should have the courage to face the electorate.

01:07:38.600 But it won't.

01:07:40.600 It won't because so many of them are really all about preventing us leaving the European Union at all.

01:07:50.600 But the time is coming.

01:07:53.600 The time is coming, Mr. Speaker, when even these turkeys won't be able to prevent Christmas.

01:08:03.600 Well, Tommy, I saw that.

01:08:05.600 And it is ironic that the same men who were prosecuting you are now themselves being persecuted by being demonized by the same establishment.

01:08:15.600 Well, listen, my friend, I appreciate you taking the time to talk with us.

01:08:18.600 You've got a lot of fans in Canada, the United States, around the world.

01:08:21.600 I'll continue to follow your cases if you're ever in a court situation.

01:08:27.600 I'll come over there because our viewers like to read the live tweets from the court because they just don't trust the mainstream media to report on what's going on.

01:08:36.600 I'd like to while I'm talking to you, because I haven't done my videos, just to say a thank you to people who have supported me, who continue to support me, who continue to support my work or my group's work with all of us.

01:08:50.600 And that and to thank them for giving me the time.

01:08:54.600 So, you know what, when I go places, I sometimes face situations where I have to be dealing with things in the right frame of mind.

01:09:01.600 And if I'm honest, even coming back out of and I'll just tell you honestly, there's a documentary coming out.

01:09:07.600 Ross Kemp was a British journalist who was in who was in Belmarsh prison when I got in there and he's filming for a documentary and he come and interviewed me.

01:09:15.600 And even just before I was coming out of the prison, he was interviewing me and I was very emotional.

01:09:20.600 And I was and it's quite I think it's gonna be quite embarrassing because I was because it'll be on camera.

01:09:25.600 I was I was very emotional about my kids, about about what I felt and angry about what I felt the system has been allowed to do to me with full support of the establishment of the media of all of them.

01:09:37.600 And I still if I've done something, I'll understand it.

01:09:40.600 But I'm sitting there thinking and then getting angry because I was concerned and cautious and worried about even I was worried about coming home, which is insane.

01:09:48.600 Yeah, I was worried about coming home. Yeah, the reason I was worried about coming home was because I was feeling I was thinking I've just struggled for a year to get back to a position after spending previous time on solitary confinement.

01:09:58.600 So in my head, I was thinking that. So even coming out, then I think I need to be in the right frame of mind to react to things when I'm out on the street.

01:10:07.600 So I sort of even coming out now, took myself away just to give myself a few weeks.

01:10:11.600 Yeah. So that when I do come out, I'm not I feel that a lot of the buttons they push on me or they try to is to make me react in a certain way.

01:10:19.600 And I don't react in that way. It's not personal. Take it easy. Take some time.

01:10:22.600 Take some time. I tell you, I was really glad that that you got out of there safely.

01:10:27.600 I mean, being in solitary is psychologically unsafe, but at least physically you weren't starved.

01:10:33.600 We'll keep it. We'll keep watching you and you deserve some time to readjust.

01:10:38.600 And when you're ready after Christmas, we'll be there ready to watch Tommy.

01:10:42.600 Hey, I'm just recharging my batteries. I've got plans and I'm just grateful to everyone for this.

01:10:47.600 Right on. Well, you've got a lot of supporters on this side of the ocean.

01:10:49.600 Stay safe, my friend, and we'll keep in touch.

01:10:52.600 Thank you. Cheers.

01:10:53.600 All right. There you have it, our friend Tommy Robinson.

01:10:56.600 A victory day for him as John Sweeney, his tormentor of the BBC, is dispatched.

01:11:01.600 Stay with us. More Ahead on the Rebel.

01:11:12.600 Hey, welcome back on my show yesterday about David Menzies being arrested at an Andrew Scheer campaign event.

01:11:17.600 Jan writes, Andrew Scheer has just blown it. I'm sure the media will, despite hating Rebel News, use this to their advantage and paint Scheer as the first politician to have a Canadian journalist arrested for free speech.

01:11:29.600 Jan, it's funny. Who does the CBC hate more? Andrew Scheer or us?

01:11:35.600 Us. Because we're more conservative than he is. We change the culture. We have a bigger audience than he does.

01:11:44.600 13,000 conservative-themed videos we've published. The CBC hates us far more than they hate him.

01:11:51.600 And thus, they're... I don't know if they're siding with him, but they're certainly not holding it against him.

01:11:57.600 Henry writes, I would really like to hear Scheer's explanation for this, because as Menzies tells the story, there's absolutely no reason for this treatment.

01:12:06.600 Yeah, well, I mean, you heard the one explanation he gave.

01:12:13.600 Well, I've decided not to talk to give interviews to that outlet. It doesn't even explain why he would kick a reporter out of a press conference. It's not an interview.

01:12:22.600 Anyways, Revelation writes, I can't believe Scheer is that stupid. Trudeau took a lot of heat for kicking out Andrew Lawton. Even left-leaning reporters were stunned.

01:12:31.600 The dictator label was starting to take hold. Scheer must have seen the news. Then he does the same.

01:12:37.600 You know, there's an irony here. And I was going to do my monologue yesterday on the huge free speech rally that Maxime Bernier and Dave Rubin hosted.

01:12:46.600 I think it was on Sunday night or something. And I thought, boy, isn't that great?

01:12:53.600 Politicians having a free speech-themed rally. Boy, that's encouraging.

01:12:58.600 I wish the conservatives did that. I wish the liberals did that. I wish the media did that.

01:13:05.600 Instead, the very next day, Andrew Scheer kicks out a reporter. Very disappointing.

01:13:11.600 On the great stuff for sale in the Rebel News store, Denise writes,

01:13:15.600 I bought your Groper t-shirt when it first came out. When I wear it in downtown Hamilton, you wouldn't believe all the people who stop me and say, I love your shirt.

01:13:23.600 I hate Trudeau and I'm not voting for him. Thanks for helping me spread the word about our inept leader.

01:13:28.600 You know what? Let me show that Groper shirt right here to make sure people see what it looks like.

01:13:33.600 Of course, it's based on the Obama shirt that said, Hope.

01:13:37.600 I've seen one that says dope, as in dopey, but I like this one that says grope because Justin Trudeau is many things.

01:13:48.600 He's a blackface groper, pretty handsy, and he loves smoking pot.

01:13:53.600 We should have a pot-themed shirt too.

01:13:55.600 All right, folks, that's the show for today.

01:13:57.600 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, keep fighting for freedom.

01:14:02.600 See you now. Bye-bye.

Rebel News Podcast - October 02, 2019

The truth about David Menzies, Rebel News & Andrew Scheer -

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