Three theories： Who banned (and unbanned) 'China Virus' from Amazon？
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My book, China Virus, is back on sale on Amazon after being banned for three days. Is this a good or bad thing? We'll talk about that, and a tech reporter on the show talks about what happened to the China Virus book.
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Hello, my friends. Today I talk about a funny story that involves the rebel, in particular
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involves my book, China Virus. Why was it banned by Amazon? Why was it unbanned? Why was it re-banned?
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Why was it re-unbanned or un-re-banned? I don't know the word. We'll talk about that and then
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we'll talk to a tech reporter about what happened to Twitter. Oh my God, there's so many things.
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Stay with us for that. But before you do, can I invite you to become a Rebel News Plus
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go to rebelnews.com. Okay, here's today's show.
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So what's the deal with Amazon censoring Rebel News? It's July 17th and this is the Ezra LeVant
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I have
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to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
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Why was my book about China banned from the Amazon website? And then why was it unbanned two
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months later? And then why was it banned again a week later? And then why was it unbanned from
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banned four days after that? That's the status right now at this moment. For all I know,
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it might be banned again later tonight. I don't know. Amazon won't even talk to me about it.
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But I can guess. See, the full title of my book is China Virus? How Justin Trudeau's pro-communist
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ideology is putting Canadians in danger. So sure, it's partly about the pandemic, yeah. But it's
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actually mainly about how Trudeau's love for communist China has corrupted Canadian politics.
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We first tried to publish the book in late April. They refused it, saying it contradicted
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official sources. They didn't say what that meant. So we sent them a lawyer's letter. They ignored it.
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And then without explanation, they simply let us upload the book to Amazon in June. And the book
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became an instant bestseller. Thank you, Canada. And then bizarrely, Amazon deleted the book from
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their pages last Friday afternoon. Boom, gone. And they gave us the same weird excuse as the first
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time, word for word. The book contradicted official sources. Of course, the book doesn't give medical
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advice. It's not like a health care book of home remedies or something. It's a political book.
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I don't know. Is that what they meant by official sources? We contradicted some official politician?
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Is that the official they're talking about? Which one? Our lawyer sent Amazon another letter.
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We still haven't heard back. So last weekend, when we were shut down the second time,
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we set up an emergency solution. We published the book on our own special website,
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ChinaVirusBook.com. We had a local publisher agree to print the paperbacks and mail them for us.
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And on that website, we gave away the e-book for any tiny donation at all. And thousands of people
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bought the book over the weekend, last weekend. And then a few days later, Amazon changed their mind
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again. And now the book is back up for sale on Amazon for now, for now. You know, fool me once,
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shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you. What is it? Fool me three times. What's going on here?
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Are they going to ban us a third time? We don't know. They've never actually explained to us what
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we did wrong. They haven't even given us the courtesy of replying to our lawyer's letters.
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I think that's rude. Should we even continue to sell our books on Amazon? They make
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money off it. What if they ban us again? Should we just continue to sell the books on our own
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website to be safe? There's some good reasons to do that. If we print and ship the books to people
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ourselves, we don't have to pay Amazon's huge commissions. We would know the names and the
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email addresses of all our book buyers. So we could contact them in the future when we publish new
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books. That would be useful. See, Amazon keeps its list of people buying our books or any other product
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secret. So there would be a few benefits to being censored by Amazon. Not for being censored, but
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our solution would have some benefits Amazon doesn't even give us. But there's a downside too.
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For one thing, Amazon is by far the biggest bookseller in the world. Not even close. In fact,
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they now have about 90% of the e-book market. Can you believe it? And they're slowly killing off
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bricks and mortar bookstores. I mean, good night. It's sad, but it's true. They're almost a total
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monopoly. For better or worse, it's where book buyers go. So if we're not on that book buying
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website, it's much harder for people to find us and buy us in any currency, for example. Being on
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Amazon means customers might get our book as a suggestion when they buy another book. Amazon's
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algorithm suggests our book. It does advertising for us to people who buy similar books. That's a
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bonus. And finally, our books almost always go to the top of Amazon's Canadian bestseller list.
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That's important validation. It's proof to you and it's proof to the media party that our little
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company, Rebel News, actually runs circles around the boring, liberal, predictable books that
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the left-wing authors write. I love the fact that my last book, The Libranos, outsold the 23 other
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books about Justin Trudeau combined. I only know that because of Amazon. So we've decided to let
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Amazon sell our book again, even though there are awful, awful people who have censored us twice and
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may well do so a third time. We've made this decision because we want the maximum number of people to buy
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and read our books, especially China virus. It's a business decision, but it's also an editorial
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decision. We simply want people to read the book. You can buy the book on Amazon now. And I just
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recorded an audio book version of it. So you'll soon be able to download that on Amazon too. And if
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we're banned again, we'll sell this all on our own website, China virus book.com. We still don't know
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why we were banned. I have three theories. The first is that Justin Trudeau did it. He hates us.
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He bans our reporters from covering debates and press conferences. We're suing him over that,
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by the way. And when I published my last book about Trudeau, he had Elections Canada send two
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former RCMP officers after me, interrogating me for an hour about why I dared to write a book
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criticizing Trudeau during an election. Yeah, because I'm a free man. So we know that Trudeau is obsessed
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with us and tries to censor us. We have that on the record. My second theory though, is that maybe the
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United Nations or the China controlled World Health Organization are to blame. As much as I
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criticize Trudeau in my book, I criticize the World Health Organization. They're the ones who
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helped China cover up the pandemic for months. Canada's feckless public health officer, Dr.
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Theresa Tam, is in a terrible conflict of interest. She actually works as a WHO employee while working
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as Canada's health officer. Well, to which master is she loyal? I mean, you can't ride two horses.
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My book is very critical of her. Wouldn't surprise me if she and the World Health Organization were the
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official sources who want my book banned. But my third guess is Amazon itself. It's now the world's
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third largest company worth 1.5 trillion dollars on the stock exchange. If they stay on this pace,
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they will be the world's largest company by the end of the year. Their CEO, Jeff Bezos, is closing in
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on 200 billion dollars personally, even after paying tens of billions to his wife in a divorce.
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I think he might be the world's first trillionaire. Amazon has nearly doubled their value since the
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pandemic began because regular stores have been ordered closed by the governments. So people have
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been forced to shop online and they're flocking to Amazon. The government built Amazon in that way,
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didn't they? But Amazon and Bezos want more, more, more, more. He's a frustrated trillionaire.
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And the only way to keep that staggering rate of growth going is cracking the massive Chinese market.
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Bezos is greedy and ambitious. Now, China virus is a bestseller, but it is not even a tiny, teeny,
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rounding error compared to the value of breaking into the Chinese market. And to do that, Bezos and
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Amazon have to bow down to the Chinese Communist Party. That's a virus part of China virus in my book.
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Would Jeff Bezos censor a book to please China? He's got a trillion reasons to do so.
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So that's the state of things right now. We despise Amazon. It's just another left-wing,
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globalist, censorship-prone tech company run by an oligarch with a god complex. But
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that's the world we live in. And we do want a maximum number of people to read the book. So we
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have to hold our nose and work with Amazon. If they ban us again, we'll sell it on our own
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website. But in the meantime, we will sell the book through them. I hope you agree with my thinking
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here. And more importantly, I hope you read the book itself. That's my purpose. I want you to learn
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how the Chinese Communist Party has its tentacles deep within Trudeau's government. If you haven't got
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the book yet, just go to ChinaVirusBook.com. If you did order the book on that website, we will
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ship it to you. Let me close on one note. I don't know if you saw it. But this week, we put up a huge
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billboard for the book on a major highway. It looks gorgeous to me. Our friend Sheila Gunn-Reed was there
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as the billboard went up at, I don't know, 5 a.m. or something. It cost us over $2,000 for that
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billboard. But it will get millions of eyeballs over the course of the months. If you want to help
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us for that, you can do so at ChinaVirusBook.com. Finally, we are going to continue with our book
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launch events. My first one is on Tuesday night, just outside Edmonton in Sherwood Park. I'm sorry,
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it's sold out. So if you don't have your ticket, there's no room, I'm afraid. We're following the
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pandemic rules about where we can meet and where we can gather. So we had to cap the attendance.
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But we will do more book events across Canada as places gradually open up. I hope they do
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gradually open up. You'll be able to find those events at ChinaVirusBook.com. So this is sort of
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a business update, but it's also an editorial update. And it's a question, why did Amazon shut
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us down? For now, I'm afraid. It's a mystery. But stay with us. Coming up next, a tech reporter
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answers more curious questions about censorship and other Silicon Valley shenanigans. Our friend
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Hey, welcome back. Well, there's someone who knows more than almost anyone about tech companies
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censoring, banning and coming up with strange excuses for glitches. I've heard that word before
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that only seem to happen to conservative leaning sites. And you know who I'm talking about. It's
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our friend Alan Bocari, chief tech writer at Breitbart.com. Alan, great to see you again.
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Well, I appreciate you coming on. I see your story. It's just incredible. Donald Trump Jr.
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and spokesman Andy Sarabian remain locked out of Twitter. Now, this was true for a day or so.
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Finally, the ban was lifted. If Twitter can lock down Donald Trump Jr. and his spokesman
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for, what was it, 24, 36 hours? It's quite a long time, yeah. Well, everywhere, I mean,
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there was a Twitter problem. There was a hacking, but it was over within an hour. But funny enough,
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Donald Trump Jr. stays banned for more than a day. I'm sorry, I'm not going to call that a coincidence.
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Are you? It does seem strange that he was one of the only accounts that was locked out for such an
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extended period of time. Big tech has censored his account before. He's had some problems on
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Instagram previously. And we know from the past few months that Twitter is not above even censoring
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President Trump himself. They've hidden his tweets. They've attached fact-checking warning
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labels to perfectly accurate tweets. So this does seem to be escalating. This did happen in the wake
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of a hack, as you said. And actually, all verified accounts were locked down for a while on the
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previous day because a number of high-profile accounts got hacked. And we should talk some
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more about that, actually, because there was an interesting leak from the hackers who gained
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access to an internal Twitter console that they used to regulate accounts. And we saw from the
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screenshots of that internal console that the hackers used that Twitter has something called a
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search blacklist and a trends blacklist. Now, Twitter hasn't answered my questions about what
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those things are, but they certainly suggest that they're covertly suppressing trends, covertly
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manipulating search, something that we've suspected they've been doing for a while, but it's only
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coming out now because of this hack. Yeah, there's so many layers to this. I mean, first of all,
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I saw Elon Musk, a very famous entrepreneur, the boss of Tesla, and Bill Gates. They both said,
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send me $1,000 by Bitcoin, and I'll send you $2,000. Hurry, only lasts for half an hour. Like,
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quite an obvious scam if it were to come from anyone else. But from a gazillionaire like them,
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some people believed it. And obviously, that Bitcoin address was going to the hackers.
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And it looks like they made off with hundreds of thousands of dollars who thought they were going
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to get double their money from some billionaire giveaway. But actually, they gave it to the
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hackers. That was an interesting wrinkle. But it looks like they made that might have actually just
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been a cover, a distraction for other shenanigans they got up to. If you're saying that they got
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access to these control panels, who knows, maybe they even got access to private direct messages that
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influential people are sending each other. That's a sort of a private form of communication through
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Twitter. Who knows what else they did when they were in there?
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Yeah, it's interesting because the Bitcoin scam that they employed was not the most valuable
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or lucrative thing they could have done with those accounts. They could have shorted stocks
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using tweets to help them make profits off the stock market to potentially make a lot more money than
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that. And as you said, having access to the private messages of these prominent accounts
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is also potentially a lot more valuable. But what struck me as the most interesting part of the
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story was the way this hack went down, the way they got access to these accounts. They didn't
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hack the accounts directly themselves. What they did was they were able to gain access to an account
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owned by a Twitter employee. And this Twitter employee apparently had access to all of these
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accounts. He could go in and change their passwords, change their email addresses, go in and read their
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DMs, put them on a search blacklist or a trends blacklist, whatever that is. So it really revealed
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something about the extent of control and surveillance that Twitter employees have over
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all of our accounts. Yeah, I was thinking about that. I mean, when you say Bill, if Bill Gates were to say
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I'm giving away free money, it looks iffy and weird and cheap, but nothing terrible is going to happen. But
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you know, if someone were to, you know, if someone were to say this is Elon Musk's family, I saw one
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Twitter critic said, what happens if they would have said instead, this is Elon Musk's family, we're so
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sad to announce his untimely death. Well, you can imagine Tesla stock would have plummeted so someone
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could have gone short. Or God forbid, imagine if they would have hacked Donald Trump's account
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and declared war or made some announcement, an economic announcement, or a political announcement,
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something to provoke China or Putin or North Korea. So, you know, what they did was actually not,
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it was in some ways the least harmful scam they could think of.
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Yeah, and it really raises national security questions now. Because as you say, with access
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to the accounts of world leaders, they could do anything. We know from 2017 that regular Twitter
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employers have enough access that they're able to delete President Trump's account. That's what
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one employee did in 2017. The account was quickly restored, but he did have the power to do that.
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And in the case of this hack, according to the reports, what happened was a Twitter employee
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was bribed around $2,000 to give up access to their account. So that's a huge, huge security
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vulnerability when we consider the fact that every world leader has a Twitter account. And we really
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need to know more about the amount of power that regular Twitter employees have over the accounts
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of world leaders. Can they read their DMs? Can they go in and change passwords and make tweets
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on their behalf? It would seem in this hack that they absolutely can. So we need, at the very minimum,
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more transparency and oversight. Yeah. When I checked about half an hour into this scam,
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the Bitcoin thieves had made off with $200,000. So if they spent $2,000 to bribe someone,
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that's a 100-fold return on investment for this crime. And they surely did much more than that.
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But imagine that. Imagine if you're China, North Korea, any foreign spy agency,
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bribing $2,000. And maybe you don't do anything. Like this was a public spectacle
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hacking account. What if you hacked an account and no one ever knew? What if you hacked an account
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and read all the private messages? And that was your... I mean, don't you think China would like
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to read all the private messages by every U.S. senator, every U.S. congressman, every U.S. diplomat?
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I mean, we hear talk in the U.S. about banning TikTok because it's a Chinese company. But seriously,
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if all it takes is $2,000 to bribe a Twitter worker, it's almost impossible to think it hasn't
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been done already. That a Chinese spy, or maybe Russian, maybe Israeli, I don't know,
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wouldn't pay $2,000 and not basically ring the fire alarm on himself, but just quietly copy
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Yeah, and I have heard some rumors from within Twitter about exactly such occurrences. Also,
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we know for a fact that they allowed that their Saudi spy operated within Twitter for a very long
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time. And another thing I'll point out about this hack is we don't know how long the hackers had
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access to this account and to the accounts of all these world leaders. They could have been
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access for a very long time. So they could very well have made logs of everyone's private messages
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before they went public with this Bitcoin scam. So we absolutely don't know how insecure this
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platform is. And I would strongly recommend against conveying any sensitive information
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through Twitter DMs. It's probably one of the best secure messaging systems that big tech operates,
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Yeah, for sure. I want to shift gears to our own story just for a minute, because it's very strange.
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I wrote my book, China Virus. I was 99% finished by late April. So we uploaded the cover. And you know,
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you can put a book on pre-order while you're just correcting typos. And you can say, all right,
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it's going to be on sale one week from now. So we did that in late April. And they almost
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immediately rejected it. We tried again. And they said, no, it contradicts, quote, official sources.
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We had a lawyer write to Amazon. They ignored us. That was back in April. In June, suddenly they
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relented. We were able to upload it. The book went to number one on Kindle in Canada, very successful.
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And then a week later, they deleted the whole thing for the exact same excuse they used the
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very first time, Alan. I couldn't believe it. And our lawyers wrote them a letter. They haven't
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answered our lawyer's letter yet. But would you tell our viewers about your contact with them
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Yeah. So you sent me the story and then I emailed them, you know, requesting comment and explanation
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in case we did our own story on it. And shortly after that, they restored the book. And this is
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actually the second time something that has happened. Alex Berenson, who's sort of seen as a
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COVID skeptic, I'm not sure if he'd call himself that, also did his own short book about the virus,
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was also blocked by Amazon. But then again, they relented after media pressure. So it seems
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like censorship is the default option for Amazon at the moment when it comes to books about the
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pandemic. But they do relent under media pressure. So it makes you wonder how many other books and
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pamphlets and e-books have been uploaded to Amazon about the virus that have just been vanished without
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Did they give you any words? Did they give you any explanation at all? Because I should tell you,
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we've written to them again, and we have not heard, they have not given us the courtesy of
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even a single one-line email in reply. They just let it back up. I think they're talking more to you
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than to me, the author, or our lawyers. Did they tell you anything?
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An error. Okay, one of those. You know, I hear that a lot. It's a glitch. It's an error. But they didn't
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even have the courtesy to tell us that, Alan. I want to let you know, you have had more communication
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with Amazon about our book than we have. And I'm really grateful because I believe that were it not
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for your intervention, we'd still be banned. I think they probably thought, oh, Breitbart.com is
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going to do a story that'll probably be read by some Republican senators who are on our case
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for censorship and collusion with China. Okay, it's not worth the hassle. I think it's precisely
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because they know important political leaders read Breitbart.com, especially on the China
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censorship issue. I think you actually saved my book, so thank you.
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Well, hopefully that's the case. It's impossible to know with these companies,
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but certainly happy to help. Well, listen, it's great to talk with you. I say again that you are
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the leading journalist when it comes to issues of tech bias and tech censorship. I understand that
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you may, I don't know if I'm letting the cat out of the bag, but that you may have a book coming out
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in the months ahead yourself on these things. I hope I haven't blown your cover on that, but go ahead.
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No big announcement yet, but yes, there is a book on the way and there'll be some announcements about
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that shortly. Well, I'm very excited when that happens. Hopefully we can schedule a longer in-depth
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interview about your book. And I'd love to put the whole thing on YouTube and email it to all our
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viewers, because anyone who is concerned about tech censorship, you and I have talked a little
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bit informally about the kind of things in your book. I know that our rebel viewers will be
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extremely interested in it. And I bet we could get that thing to be a bestseller in Canada too,
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you know, because you're in the States and you're with Breitbart, but in Canada, I think we have some
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of those problems even worse than you do. Oh yeah, absolutely. And we'll see if Amazon bans it when
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it comes out. Yeah, I sure hope they don't, but we'll do our best to promote it. Good luck. Thanks
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for your time today, Alan. Thanks, Ezra. All right. There you have it. Alan Bokari, the senior tech
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writer for Breitbart.com. Stay with us more ahead.
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Hey, welcome back on my monologue of our plan to help the two Michaels. Pierre writes,
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great idea. I'm also pledging to actively avoid buying anything made in China until the two Michaels
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are home again. It is extremely hard not to buy something made in China. I might suggest it's almost
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impossible unless you were going to not buy anything manufactured, not buy anything
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high tech, no clothing, no gadgets, no, nothing made of plastic. It's all made in China.
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I saw a video out of India that said, look, if you try and de-China-fy your life, you'll go nuts.
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You can't do it, but maybe take baby steps once a month, change one thing. Buy a phone that's not
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made in China, buy a TV that's not made, buy something made in Korea, buy something made in Taiwan,
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buy something made in America or Canada. If you try and take China out of your life, you're not
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going to succeed. It's like dieting. I'm sort of an expert in what doesn't work. If you just say I'm
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going to lose all the weight, it's not going to happen, but maybe baby steps. All right, take my
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dieting approach to China. Susanna writes, I can't imagine how the two Michaels must feel knowing we
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have a PM who admires the basic Chinese dictatorship and won't lift a finger for them. Good on you rebel for
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doing something about it when our traitor-in-chief won't. People call him a traitor. I don't think I
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would use that word because I think it overplays it by a few percent. I think he's corrupt, obviously.
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It's not my opinion. The ethics commissioner has made that ruling several times. I think he is
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compromised. I think he ideologically sympathizes with our enemies. But I don't want to use the word
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traitor. I want to wait and use that. I want to keep that word sharp like a knife that's rarely used.
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I don't want to dull it by overuse because when we need to call someone a traitor, we need that word.
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On my interview with Philip Slayton, Laura writes, leftists don't want to debate anything. They just
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want to silence anyone who disagrees with them. That's the thing. I think there's an important
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distinction between a liberal and a leftist. I think, maybe I'm making things up. Our friend
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Joel Pollack made this point too. A liberal is someone who just, I want a little more taxes. I want a little
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more government. I think the state needs to be a bit bigger. I'm worried about certain things. I want to be
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soft on crime. But it's someone who's on the spectrum and will debate with you. But a leftist
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says, no, no, no. You shut up. Shut up, he explained. That's a leftist. And Barry Weiss found out that
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leftists will come for liberals too. Well, that's our show for the day. We have, we're doing more TV
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than ever. We're doing more stuff than ever. We've got more teammates than ever. Well, not than ever,
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but we're growing. Andrea Humphrey has joined our team. We've got other talent on TV. We're going
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full guns. I'm so very excited. And I'm grateful to you for being part of it. Until next time,
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on behalf of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night. Keep fighting for freedom.