Trudeau loses vote in Parliament that promises to examine Canada's relationship with China in the public spotlight
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Justin Trudeau just lost an embarrassing vote in Parliament, and here's why it's a good thing. Ezra Levenant explains why, and why we should all be nostalgic for the days of Jean Chrétien, the Prime Minister of Canada.
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Hey, you guys, I have some good news for you, and my mouth can barely even make those words.
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The opposition parties in Parliament got together and passed a motion over the objections of
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It's to set up a committee to investigate China-Canadian relations.
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I will read the entire motion to you, almost the entire motion to you, and tell you what
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Before I let you hear that, though, may I invite you to become a subscriber to our premium
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It's basically the podcast with video, and you get access to a couple other shows, too,
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Tonight, Justin Trudeau just lost an embarrassing vote in Parliament, 171 to 148.
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I'll tell you what it's all about and why this is good news.
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It's December 11th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
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I worked for Preston Manning back in the 90s, and in many ways, it was pointless.
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But really, every single vote in Parliament was predestined to go his way.
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We could make a bit of a fuss in question period and have the odd symbolic win.
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But really, for a decade, the government did what Jean Chrétien told it to do.
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Chrétien had his rival, Paul Martin, but he absolutely knew how to contain and control
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He delayed his exit as long as he liked, and he planted little time bombs for Martin when
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he finally decided to retire, like the ad scam scandal, the sponsorship scandal.
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I loathed the liberals so much, but I look back with almost a fondness.
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I know that's nuts because it was Jean Chrétien who was the liberal, but he reigned in the
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It was Jean Chrétien who allowed, and even legally and politically encouraged, the oil
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It was Chrétien and his Edmonton cabinet minister, Anne McClellan, who defended the oil sands against
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the more radical environmentalists in cabinet, like Sheila Copps.
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True, Jean Chrétien ratified the Kyoto Protocol, and he had this bizarre negotiation strategy.
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Whatever the Americans agreed at the UN global warming meeting back in Kyoto, whatever they
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said, he instructed his negotiators to pledge to do 1% better.
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But what was so genius about that was, of course, he never actually meant any of it.
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He never actually did anything other than say it.
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He just kept saying that he ratified Kyoto, and he did.
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Didn't mean he actually executed or implemented it.
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But I don't think he picked fights with either, like Justin Trudeau does.
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And he wasn't stupid enough to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs, the oil patch.
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Maybe that's why Chrétien won three back-to-back majorities.
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But his style, I think, was that of a manager, not a dramatic leader.
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He was happy to have no open files on his desk.
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He also had a bias towards people around him who were grown-ups.
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They were liberals, but they were seasoned a bit.
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I think of Herb Gray, the old liberal hand from Windsor, Ontario.
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I'm not saying that Herb Gray was a great businessman or really a great anything, but he had some ballast.
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He had seen a thing or two before, including in opposition.
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Compare that to the absolutely clueless, inexperienced team that Justin Trudeau has put around himself now.
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I mean, that works for hip TV shows, but not really when you're running a country and experience and wisdom counts.
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Chrystia Freeland is just over 50, but I think she styles herself as a wannabe millennial.
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And you are literally looking right now at her crack NAFTA team.
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I don't think any of them have even yet negotiated a mortgage, let alone an international trade deal.
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No wonder we were taken to the cleaners by Trump.
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That's not what I actually meant to talk about today, but I can't help but to have thought about it in comparison to Justin Trudeau.
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By the way, I see that Finland has a new prime minister and she's just 34.
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And she's part of a pack of millennial cabinet ministers of that country.
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All of them women, by the way, or most of them.
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So it's about the same population as the greater Toronto area.
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So, I don't know, maybe it's no harm to have a group of millennials at the helm.
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Or maybe Finland is about to be devoured by Russia again, as it has been in the past.
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And I don't know if the Finns stand a chance, but hey, they got some millennials who look sort of cool on Twitter.
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But the good news is he had his majority government taken away from him.
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Now, the good news for him is that the NDP doesn't want to have another election right away.
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And Jagmeet Singh is like Trudeau, but even with less there, there.
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He was a weak campaigner, and he actually makes Trudeau look wise.
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That's a popular app with the teenagers called TikTok.
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And I think Jagmeet Singh is a perfect fit for TikTok.
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And that was his brother there, too, politician also.
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Those guys are happy to be living on the public dime, have a fake sort of celebrity.
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But neither of them would ever know what to do if they were given any power.
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They're happy to be in opposition, is what I'm saying.
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Neither of them will ever actually wield power.
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So I don't think they're going to go to an election again.
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The Bloc Yiboquai actually came ahead of the NDP.
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He's revived Western separatism and Quebec separatism.
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I don't think they're in a hurry to campaign anymore.
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They're just enjoying life on the public dime, too.
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They're totally against the government of Canada, except when it comes to their pay and
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So I think Trudeau will likely win any confidence votes for at least a few years.
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Because, of course, if you lose a confidence vote, like a budget, there's an election.
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I think Trudeau will call an election when he thinks he has his opposition particularly
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I don't know, maybe right in the middle of an Andrew Scheer leadership vote or something.
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But although Trudeau is likely to pass any budgets or confidence votes, he will still
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lose on some matters where the parties can humiliate him and stop him without forcing an election.
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It might be hard to find common ground amongst the conservatives, the Bloc, and the NDP.
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When it comes to the SNC-Lavalin-Jody Wilson-Raybould matter, although I think, now that I say it,
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I think the Bloc Quebecois would probably stop that because they would champion SNC-Lavalin
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I think there could be some cooperation by the opposition on ethics matters.
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But last night, they actually found common ground in foreign policy on China.
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And so they teamed up to pass a motion, 171 votes to 148.
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It comes on the one year anniversary of the kidnapping by China of two Michaels, Michael
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Kovrig and Michael Spavor, who were seized as hostages by the dictatorship of China in revenge
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for Canada lawfully arresting a Chinese tycoon named Meng Wanzhou.
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So it would be like arresting, I don't know, Bill Gates' daughter or something like that,
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China has launched a diplomatic war against Canada in revenge and a trade war.
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And of course, taking hostages, which really could be considered a real act of war.
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But Trudeau has bent the knee and appointed a new foreign minister who literally went on
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television in China on their propaganda networks to speak in defense of what a great dictatorship
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And I would say China stands out as beacon of stability, predictability, a rule-based
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But Canadians are smarter than Trudeau, even though they voted for him.
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It's a survey done by Pew Research of countries around the world and asked them if they have
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You can see that Canada has amongst the most unfavorable views of China in the world, even
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Canadians have hardened their hearts only in the last year towards communist China.
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I think Canadians are good people, obviously, and have always felt a bit odd about how chummy Trudeau
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was with China, and now it's moved from a quirk of Trudeau to a real flaw.
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There's a level of admiration I actually have for China, because their basic dictatorship is
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allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime.
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When Trudeau said that back then, it was weird, but now it's much worse than weird.
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It's called Special Committee on Canada-China Relations.
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The motion is that in light of the prolonged diplomatic crisis with China, the House, that's
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House of Commons, appoint a special committee with the mandate to conduct hearings to examine
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and review all aspects of the Canada-China relationship, including, but not limited to,
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consular, economic, legal, security, and diplomatic relations.
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That the committee be composed of 12 members, of which six shall be government members, four
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shall be from the official opposition, one shall be from the Bloc Québécois, and one
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So it's a total review of the Canada-China policy.
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It's something Trudeau should have done, but he didn't do.
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Even his new ambassador to there, Dominique Barton, total signophile.
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I think they might even still be working psychologically for China as they did in real life before.
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They did in their real life work for China, in China, for Chinese businesses.
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I'm not sure how anyone can trust that they're still not putting Chinese interests first.
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I'm talking about our ambassador, our foreign minister.
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Well, now we've got a committee that is 50-50 government and opposition MPs.
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I'm not sure how tie votes will be broken, but it'll be very interesting to see the proceedings.
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Like, I don't know if you remember a few months ago, how they shut down any inquiries in the
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House of Commons because they used that liberal majority when they were investigating the Jody
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And I appreciate that this is a very uncomfortable subject for the Trudeau majority on this committee.
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But while the prime minister is trying to silence his former attorney general, he will not
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We're going to—Mr.—Mr.—because I've spoken to the clerk, and at this point, you haven't
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I'm sure that this is an attempt to shut down the debate and continue to cover up.
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What an awful, disgraceful, corrupt moment that was, that Anthony Howe's father,
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chairing the committee, shutting down any questions into the scandal.
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Well, that won't be able to be done now that Trudeau does not have a majority anymore.
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I don't know how you're going to break a tie on a committee, though.
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I'm going to skip some of the technical parts of the motion, but let me read a little bit
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The clerk of the House shall convene an organization meeting of the said committee for no later than
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That the committee be chaired by a member of the government party, that notwithstanding
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Standing Order 106-2, in addition to the chair, there will be one vice chair from the official
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opposition, one vice chair from the Bloc Québécois, and one vice chair from the New Democrats.
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The quorum of the committee be as provided for in Standing Order 118, and that the chair
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be authorized to hold meetings, to receive evidence, and to have that evidence printed
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when a quorum is not present, provided that at least four members are present, including
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one member of the opposition and one member of the government.
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Okay, I'm just showing that they're going to do some, that they've got some rules here.
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The committee be granted all the powers of a standing committee, as provided in the standing
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orders, as well as the power to travel, accompanied by the necessary staff, inside and outside of
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This thing's going to get rolling pretty quickly.
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Right after the new year, they're going to organize it.
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They'll have all the powers of any existing committee, and they'll travel in Canada and
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That the committee have the power to authorize video and audio broadcasting of any or all of
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its proceedings, and that the prime minister, the minister of foreign affairs, the minister
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of public safety, and the Canadian ambassador to China be ordered to appear as witnesses
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So it's going to be broadcast on TV, which is good, so we can all see it, and the foreign
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minister, public safety minister, Trudeau himself, the ambassador, ordered to appear.
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Now, I'm not quite sure if a vote of the House of Commons is enough to order someone to appear,
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He takes questions from time to time in question, period, already.
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It's not like he actually says anything substantive in his answers.
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He's a master at evasion, and the opposition isn't really good at pinning him down on anything,
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He doesn't even know enough to give a wrong answer.
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And certainly, the media party doesn't press him on anything.
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Really, Trudeau just has his very shallow message track, and no one tries to push him
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Well, we'll put him on a payment plan, you know?
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The number we talk about is 70% increase over these past years, including, and for the
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coming years, including significant investments in our fighter jets, significant investments
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We are increasing significantly our defense spending from previous governments that cut it.
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Trudeau was afraid of Trump, afraid of Trump calling out his BS.
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Canada spends 1.27% of our GDP on defense, not 1.4%.
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But at least he gave a substantive answer to the best of his meager abilities.
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Trudeau was afraid to avoid the answer, but he's unafraid of Parliament or the Canadian
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I mean, the guy's broken the law five times now, Conflict of Interest Act.
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So he'll skate at this new China committee, but still it'll be a moment Trudeau will hate.
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And even if Trudeau lies to the committee, others might tell the truth.
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Why isn't Canada retaliating to China's trade war?
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Why does Canada take so many Chinese nationals into our universities, pushing aside Canadians?
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Why does Canada take so many Chinese nationals into our high-tech university departments where
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they engage in massive industrial espionage, according to CSIS?
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Why is Canada allowing Huawei to build any telecom infrastructure in Canada at all, let alone
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Why is Canada allowing China to put trade sanctions on us, like on our agriculture, without a tit
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Frankly, why are Chinese diplomats even allowed here while the two Michaels are held hostage?
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Why won't Canada stand with Hong Kong like the U.S. Congress has done?
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Both parties, Democrats and Republicans, they voted for a law that would put sanctions on
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China if they get violent in Hong Kong, take away Chinese rights to trade in America.
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We have more Canadians in Hong Kong than America has Americans there.
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Why are we still planning to take billions of Canadian tax dollars and invest them in China's
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Why would Canadian taxpayers give money to China at all, let alone to build Chinese infrastructure?
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They have, what, two, three trillion dollars in foreign currency reserves.
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Why would we build Chinese infrastructure with our money, especially when we're shutting down
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How much money does Canada still give China in foreign aid?
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Those are just a few of the hundreds of questions I think ought to be asked, and none of them
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could cause the minority government to fall in themselves.
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It's actually a smart use of the combined votes of the opposition parties, don't you think?
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Maybe they're not quite as hopeless as we once thought.
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We no longer have time to leave out the science.
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Without seeing the full picture, we will not solve this crisis.
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Finding holistic solutions is what the COP should be all about.
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But instead, it seems to have turned into some kind of opportunity for countries to negotiate
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Well, that's Greta Thunberg, Saint Greta, as we call her, or the Time Magazine Person of the Year,
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as Time Magazine calls her, even though Time Magazine readers overwhelmingly voted
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that that honor should be bestowed on the young people of Hong Kong,
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who have stood firm against Beijing's tyranny, defended democracy and freedom
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at the cost of their own, at the risk of their own lives.
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Well, Greta, she sailed in a yacht from America to the Global Warming Conference in Madrid,
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so surely that makes her the most amazing person in the world.
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But we have sent the only two skeptical journalists in all of the world
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to cover the Global Warming Conference that the UN hosts every year.
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But alas, that city is in flames as the people rise up against energy poverty,
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brought about by poor decisions made by the local authorities there
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and thus made the price of transit go up and cause the riots.
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I think it's quite poetic that the Global Warming Conference was moved
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because of riots against the global warming agenda.
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Arke and Bexty and Sheila Gunnery, good to see you guys.
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I just can't even, part of me can't believe that Greta is held up
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But really, when you think about the politically correct mindset,
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of course she was, because she is the battering ram
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for the globalist, environmentalist, green agenda.
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But you know as well as I do, the history of Time magazine's person of the year used to be man of the year back in 1930-something
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They don't have the best taste as far as I'm concerned.
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And when you compare Greta Thunberg to the millions of people marching in Hong Kong,
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I'm impressed by the people who stand up against the Communist Party of China
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when they risk their own lives, when they risk being sent to a gulag,
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when they risk being raped in prison by police officers.
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Greta Thunberg, on the other hand, doesn't risk anything.
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Greta Thunberg is just raking in the dough, raking in the fame,
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Well, and what does it say about Time magazine that they're choosing this young girl
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as their person of the year over the Hong Kong protesters?
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One of these groups or one of these people is advocating for more centralized government,
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And the other group, the Hong Kongers, they're marching for less government control,
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They're marching for liberty when all the solutions to the things that Greta thinks are problems
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means more government and fewer rights for everybody.
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your fourth global warming conference that you've covered for Rebel News.
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Tell us how this one is different, if it is different, than the ones you've covered in
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the past from, let me see if I can remember, Marrakesh, Morocco, Bonn, Germany, Katowice,
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It's a feast for the bureaucrats and diplomats and lobbyists.
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You're there working and you're going economy class.
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How, if at all, is this year's conference different from the previous three you've covered?
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Well, I think the first thing is that it is, it's in a bigger facility than the other places
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So there's, in the other cities, there were more inflatable structures to support the
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So they do have a lot of structures existing here.
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However, you can tell that it was thrown together haphazardly at the last minute.
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If you look around town, there's not a lot of signage here.
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I know in Morocco, the whole town was coated with signs.
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But here, even the signs, they still say Chile.
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And then they have Madrid written underneath because Madrid was chosen, you know, really
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So I suppose it's hard to get momentum up for a conference that literally nobody wanted.
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Originally, this was intended to be in Brazil, and then Brazil elected their version of President
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And he said, we're not having this conference here.
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And as you rightly pointed out, they are having energy poverty protests that have turned out
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So I guess the people who want to make energy more expensive for literally everybody on the
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planet thought it might be an optically bad idea to continue to hold it in Chile.
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So they scrambled and found a location here in Madrid.
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I was actually quite convinced that it would go back to Bonn, Germany, where the head of
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But when you're in the rest of the city, you would not know that this conference is
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Well, let me ask you one more question before I go back to Kian.
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I noticed that they have big corporate sponsors, which makes sense because, of course, the journalists
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report on the press releases and the politicians.
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But there really is a lot of business conducted at these billions of dollars worth of grants
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I noticed that of the four, I think they're called platinum or diamond sponsors, three of
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And they have, you know, they all have a few windmills for window dressing.
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But the people who are sponsoring this are in the coal industry.
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I think it shows that the UN, like most global things, is absolutely riggable.
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There's bribery and corruption and whether it's FIFA, soccer or the Olympics.
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Here, you don't have blood doping like the Olympics.
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You just have payola to say, can you give my coal mine your green blessing or something?
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I'm just laughing that the global warming people are letting themselves be sponsored
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by coal because, of course, they like free money.
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There are some major fossil fuel companies here sponsoring this event.
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If you go to their website, they sort of feature the fact that they're into natural gas.
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We also see there's a lot of greenwashing happening here.
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And as Kian points out, they're one of the world's largest producers of plastic pollution.
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Danone, you know, the little dairy company that has all the disposable yogurts, they're prominently featured here.
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These high-polluting companies, if you care about that sort of thing, and I'm told these people do, if they throw enough money at the United Nations, they get the green stamp of approval.
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And it's funny because I saw on Twitter today some of the delegates here are sort of outraged that CAP, the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers, has representatives here.
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But why is that so outrageous when everyone is walking under these signs featuring these Spanish fossil fuel companies?
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It's almost as though, you know, it's really how the Liberals treat Canadian oil and gas, isn't it?
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They tax Canadian oil and gas and give foreign oil and gas a pass.
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And the same thing is happening here, except in reverse.
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They are giving their own domestic production a pass while, again, continuing to target Canadian oil and gas.
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Well, Kian, I want to bring you into the conversation.
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You are the only journalist of which I'm aware, at least the only journalist in the English-speaking world,
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who has actually managed to put questions to Greta Thunberg, St. Greta, Person of the Year Greta,
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And that's when you encountered her in Edmonton.
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And you, well, here, let me just show our viewers a quick reminder of when you actually got to ask her about,
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Will you be telling us who is paying for your trip, your Tesla,
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and bringing you to our country in the middle of an election?
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Have you registered as a third-party advertiser coming to this country in the middle of an election period?
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Have you registered as a third-party advertiser?
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I'm sure she will not talk about the elections at all.
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You understand that climate change is a pivotal policy, is a ballot box question in this election.
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I'm actually competing in the middle right now, so...
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This is a ballot box question in this election, and you're rallying, you're engaging in our political discourse as a foreigner.
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You're, I think, the only journalist in the world who's actually scrummed Greta.
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Really, it's her handlers that are the puppeteers.
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How is Greta being treated or seen at this global warming conference?
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Because on the one hand, they would love her because she's the battering ram that's punching through because she's so quirky.
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On the other hand, her whole shtick is that she's holier than thou.
00:32:58.100
This is a very interesting question, Ezra, because something we've been working on here is sharing some footage that we have of Greta.
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Something that we haven't published yet before, from that day when I talked to Greta, was the footage of the inside of her Tesla.
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The Tesla that Arnold Schwarzenegger gave her, and it was littered, Ezra, it was littered with climate contraband.
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Plastic utensils, plastic grocery bags, plastic water bottles, plastic wrappers for Kiwis, plastic twine covering oranges, all this stuff, Ezra.
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So we're asking folks, well, what do you think about the use of plastics in general?
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And when they say, oh, the use of plastics is bad, and then we say, well, look at this footage of Greta Thunberg's Tesla.
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And their response, Ezra, is, I don't believe it.
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They, they, they, they, we watch the, we watch the stages of grief pass through their face in about five seconds.
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One of them said, I just don't believe you because she's my hero and Greta wouldn't do that.
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One of them said, well, you know what, Kiwis, I do believe you because she's not a messiah as much as everyone says she is.
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And I encourage everyone to go to rebelun.com where all, all of our coverage from this conference is.
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And it is the, the creme de la creme of this conference, I think, because the reactions, they just, some of them don't want to accept that Greta, person of the year, is really Greta, hypocrite of the year.
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Okay, well, let's just show a quick sneak peek of that, but you're correct, you guys have been pumping out the vids, including on St. Greta.
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But here's just a taste of you showing the truth that St. Greta isn't quite as pure as the driven snow when it comes to plastics.
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What do you think Greta Thunberg would say to people who continue to use plastic, even though they know how damaging it is to the environment?
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If you stop using plastic, it'll help a great deal.
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Do you think Greta Thunberg uses plastic water bottles?
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So we, we see lots of people driving Teslas, you know, and they're like, oh, we're saving the environment.
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But in the Teslas, in the cup holder, is a plastic water bottle.
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Do you think some of these people are just hypocrites?
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And I think it's easy to, like, jump and to be part of the trend of, like, going green, going healthy.
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So I think that it is, a lot of it is, like, this new kind of trend or fad that's going on of trying to save the environment.
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But I think at the end of the day, people don't really care and they just want to have the image.
00:35:58.020
So one thing I want to show you, it's footage that I took, actually, of Greta Thunberg's car.
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These are the aboriginal beads that were given to her by native bands.
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It's not to be unplight, but it's kind of hard to believe because Greta is kind of my, it's really a hope for my family, my generation.
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So if I don't have, like, strong evidence, I can give you an answer.
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I don't know what is the source of the photos, I'm afraid I cannot say anything.
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If they were true, if they're real, and I can promise you they are, what do you think about them?
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Well, nobody, nobody should use plastics in the first place, but I don't know what is the source, so I'm afraid I cannot really say.
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Why, are you surprised that Greta Thunberg, someone who...
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So Greta Thunberg is using single-use plastics.
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I don't know what was the case and why was it bought, but as I say, I wouldn't take any stand on this just because it is unclear to me what is the source and if it's true.
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So, I want to believe that it's not Greta Thunberg, I want to believe that it's not her, and I can't confirm it, so I will not talk about her.
00:37:35.620
Well, you're going to be there for a couple more days.
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Now, it looks like you're getting more access to this conference than we have in the past.
00:37:42.140
I know that after Sheila went to Marrakesh, Catherine McKenna, the climate zealot who has since been demoted by Justin Trudeau, she instructed the U.N.
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It hasn't stopped us from going to these climate conferences, but it's changed where we could physically go.
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It looks like you guys are getting a lot of access.
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Is that just because everything's so ramshackle?
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Is it because it's not in an authoritarian regime like, I mean, Morocco is not that bad a place as Arab countries go, but it's a controlled, benign dictatorship there.
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Why are you getting more access than you have in years past?
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Now, we are nowhere near where all the bureaucrats and decision makers are.
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They're in a completely other building from where we're at.
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But because this was thrown together, I think so haphazardly, the side events that are normally spread across the city and that are earlier in the conference, they're being held right now in one building.
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And so we're able to get into it sort of amounts to a bit of a trade show where they have press conference or like not press conferences, but panels.
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They're hosting panels of completely uninteresting people, but at least we're allowed to get in under in the warmth.
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It was only four degrees here and it was raining this morning.
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So we can get in there and we can there we can find sort of the climate change true believers, which has resulted in some really great content for Kian.
00:39:25.500
But, yeah, I think it's just because it was just the whole conference was just stuffed together in this one venue and the security is not as tight at other times.
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You know, sometimes they want to see our passport so we can get into the building.
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Sometimes we just walk in with the herd and nobody seems to notice.
00:39:44.340
Well, I think it's really exciting and I want to encourage all the people to go to rebelun.com.
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I believe that you, too, Sheila and Kian, are the only skeptical journalists, I want to say in the world, there may be someone else out there, but I just don't know who they are.
00:40:03.220
I haven't seen journalists make contact with Greta in the skeptical way that we have.
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I haven't seen journalists cover these global warming conferences in the way that we have.
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I think that it's important journalism and I'd encourage all our viewers to go to rebelun.com to watch all the videos and to help cover our costs if they can.
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I have one more question for you and I'll let you guys go because I know the time zones are later over there.
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I think it's six hours later there than in Toronto.
00:40:38.320
I've been talking a lot about China and you mentioned Hong Kong, Kian.
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Everyone at these global warming things hates what I call ethical oil.
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And these days that really means Canada, the United States, a little bit of North Sea oil.
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Whereas the conflict oil from OPEC countries in Russia is generally not criticized.
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And of course, if you worry about greenhouse gases, and I don't, but for those who do,
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China is by far the largest emitter and India is probably growing and will soon be number two.
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Have you seen any criticisms of China, India, OPEC countries, Russia there?
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Or is there hatred reserved only for the Western liberal democracies?
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Their hatred is reserved completely for Western liberal democracies.
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And Greta Thunberg said it in her speech today when she said,
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Net zero emissions are not enough when referring to rich countries, rich Western liberal countries.
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And countries like Canada and the United States need to do even more to offset poor countries like India, China.
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You know, the major polluters that are destroying our rivers and oceans,
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killing ecosystems and polluting particulate matter more than anyone else in the world.
00:42:07.480
There's one reference of China here, and it is in these pollution pods.
00:42:11.860
We did a video on them, and Beijing was the worst pod out of all of them.
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Beijing is one of the most polluted cities in the world.
00:42:21.900
And in these pollution pods, well, there's five of them, one from London, one from Sao Paulo,
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one from India, and Beijing as well from China.
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None from North America, though, because, well, guess what?
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But it's North America that is being targeted by the likes of Greta and by the likes of the United Nations.
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The West needs to do more and do more, and we need to kneecap our economies,
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and we need to kneecap our middle classes more and more and more,
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so that Xi Jinping can pollute more and more and more and create cheap products to be shipped out to South America
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and Europe and Africa and North America as well because China gets a free pass.
00:43:06.040
China's not – I haven't seen China mentioned hardly at all.
00:43:09.080
And one thing also to note is Taiwan is not here.
00:43:12.820
Taiwan typically – a major city, millions and millions of people, tens of millions of people, I think, live in Taiwan.
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Huge contributor to the dialogue around sustainable development, sustainable growth,
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and climate change technology and carbon capture technology.
00:43:31.780
But China has been allowed to veto Taiwan's ability to be at this climate change conference, which they wanted to be at.
00:43:39.400
But, of course, the United Nations bends to whatever demands Xi Jinping has.
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It's very modern, very clean, and it is a democracy.
00:43:51.000
It's shocking to me that they have been banned, but not surprising because, of course, the UN is all in for Beijing.
00:43:59.900
Sheila, I want to say that your trips to these global warming conferences are truly one of the great achievements of Rebel News in our almost five-year history.
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I mean, I say this as a compliment to you, but it's true.
00:44:17.160
I think that if I were to look back on the 13,000 videos we've produced at Rebel News over the years, we've hit other UN conferences too.
00:44:27.620
We did one on the Nanny State Conference in New Delhi once.
00:44:31.120
We sent David Menzies to their migration conference in Morocco also once.
00:44:39.740
But I think that these global warming conferences, if we didn't do it, I don't think anyone would.
00:44:45.960
We have, I mean, our headquarters is in Toronto, but our heart is in Alberta with the oil patch.
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I just think it's important work, and I thank you for doing it.
00:44:53.780
I'm glad you're bringing Kean along, show him the ropes to these conferences, release the Kean.
00:45:02.600
This is your fourth one, and I hope you'll continue to go to these always for us.
00:45:07.520
Well, you did point it out that we are probably two of the only skeptical journalists here.
00:45:14.440
We did encounter our friends from the New American magazine who did interview us, because as Americans, you're quite interested in the fact that we were banned by our own government.
00:45:29.420
But also, besides Kean and I being journalists, I think we're just normal people, like we're normal Albertans.
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And so we noticed things that these very managed, true-believing journalists don't or refuse to.
00:45:44.780
I felt like I had maternity over it when we were going through security, and he noticed the hum of the diesel generators.
00:45:59.140
And then when we were out in the parking lot, and Kean's like, nobody's using the electric car chargers.
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And I had to wipe away a little tear, because I was very proud that he was noticing all these things that normal people notice,
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that the dozens and hundreds of journalists walking into the conference every day don't.
00:46:15.140
So I'm very excited that Kean's here, because there's so much to do.
00:46:20.100
And my great regret at these conferences is that I can't cover it all.
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And Kean and I will never be able to cover it all.
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But at least we can make a real serious dent in it.
00:46:30.400
I remember, and we'll just show a little B-roll of it right now, when you were in Morocco, and you leaned up against one of these car chargers.
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And I was thinking to myself, are there really that many Teslas in Morocco?
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And not only are there really no Teslas there, but they were fake.
00:46:47.920
These car electric chargers were fake, and they tipped over when you leaned on them.
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They were literally a Potemkin village, a fake just-for-show thing, which was the perfect symbol.
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So I'm so glad that Kean caught on to that, too.
00:47:01.460
Well, you guys, thanks for doing this interview with me.
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I don't even know what time it is over there, but thanks for fitting me in.
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I think you guys are really making a difference.
00:47:23.540
Well, there you have it, Sheila Gunn-Reed and Kean Bexte at the UN Global Warming Conference
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And I really recommend you head over to rebelun.com.
00:47:43.240
There's just little videos, little vignettes there that I promise you, you will not see
00:47:52.200
Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about WestJet's CEO saying he won't tolerate
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Roddy writes, I say, boycott WestJet, find another means of travel.
00:48:11.960
Yeah, I don't think that's going to punish the CEO.
00:48:16.920
Well, I think he has to be chided by his business peers and by political leaders.
00:48:28.840
So far, I haven't seen either of those things happen.
00:48:32.400
Raymond writes, if Alberta separates, investments would flood in.
00:48:38.780
So it couldn't be any worse than that, could it?
00:48:41.020
Matthias writes, we don't need the opinions of millionaires.
00:48:48.520
Yeah, my beef with the CEO of WestJet isn't that he's a millionaire.
00:48:52.100
I'm just pointing out that because he's a millionaire, he's completely immune to what
00:48:57.760
I saw a statistic that 20% of young men in Alberta are unemployed.
00:49:02.360
It's that he has no connection to the oil patch, really no connection to Canada at all.
00:49:09.820
He's a jet-setting globalist in every meaning of that word.
00:49:12.980
And he's telling regular Albertans who are hurting to shut up.
00:49:16.320
The fact that he's a millionaire adds insult to injury because, you know, who knows what
00:49:21.120
lavish lifestyle he's in while he's chirping at people for complaining about their poverty.
00:49:27.340
And it really reminded me of the snobbery in the UK Brexit vote.
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He's a perfect remainer where he can go sawed off, as they'd say in Britain.
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Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night and keep