Rebel News Podcast - August 21, 2018


Trudeau repeatedly calls a ā€œheckling grandmaā€ a ā€œracistā€ļ¼š Here's the FULL video the Media Party won't show you


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

154.70636

Word Count

7,240

Sentence Count

491

Misogynist Sentences

25

Hate Speech Sentences

32


Summary

Justin Trudeau loses his cool on a heckler in Quebec, calling her racist. We ve got the full video the mainstream media won t show you. It's August 20th, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show. Why should others go to jail when you're the biggest carbon consumer?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Tonight, Justin Trudeau loses his cool on a heckler in Quebec, calling her racist.
00:00:05.580 We've got the full video the mainstream media won't show you.
00:00:09.120 It's August 20th, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:17.560 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:21.380 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:25.080 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
00:00:28.080 The only thing I have to say to the government for why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:39.100 Justin Trudeau absolutely lost his cool over the weekend.
00:00:43.060 His staff always insulate him from criticism, and the Canadian media is so overwhelmingly biased towards him.
00:00:48.820 He really doesn't know what to do with someone like this woman who dared to heckle him in Quebec.
00:00:55.400 Take a look.
00:00:58.080 He's used to being lavished with praise.
00:01:05.860 He has been his whole life.
00:01:07.640 Ever since he was a boy, he's just not good at handling criticism.
00:01:11.260 He surrounds himself with yes-men.
00:01:13.720 So on those rare moments when someone manages to get through his bubble to speak truth to power,
00:01:19.340 he falls apart.
00:01:20.300 Like this weekend in Quebec, Trudeau was giving a stump speech when that woman started heckling him.
00:01:26.140 Take a look.
00:01:32.800 And now I'm going to show you more of it.
00:01:35.060 I'm going to show you the whole thing, okay, from the beginning to the end.
00:01:38.480 But let me set the clip up a bit first.
00:01:40.920 I mean, heckling, that's not very friendly, is it?
00:01:44.300 Well, it's actually a pretty important part of democracy.
00:01:46.620 We have the right to heckle our political leaders, maybe even a duty if they're doing something really wrong.
00:01:54.280 I mean, they heckle each other in Parliament, right?
00:01:57.360 And Trudeau heckles back, right?
00:01:59.660 I mean, who can forget Trudeau's own eloquent reply a few years back when he was in opposition to Peter Kent?
00:02:06.320 Here, take a listen.
00:02:07.880 You'll hear a swear being shouted in the background.
00:02:11.640 That's our boy Justin.
00:02:13.580 Well, Mr. Speaker, my honorable colleague, if she had been in Durban, would have seen that, in fact, Canada was among the leaders in the...
00:02:22.320 Order.
00:02:25.980 Order.
00:02:26.660 Order.
00:02:33.600 Hmm, that was Trudeau.
00:02:35.200 He later apologized.
00:02:37.000 I lost my temper and used language that was most decidedly unparliamentary, and for that I unreservedly apologize, Mr. Speaker.
00:02:47.080 And withdraw my remorse.
00:02:49.080 That Zorro mustache was just perfect for him, wasn't it?
00:02:52.500 Anyways, heckling, yeah.
00:02:53.980 Not so good at, say, weddings or funerals.
00:02:57.100 But those are private events, ceremonies, really.
00:02:58.960 A politician giving a stump speech is pretty much the number one place you should heckle, other than maybe at a comedy club.
00:03:06.980 And like at a comedy club, how the speaker deals with hecklers is really a test of your temperament.
00:03:12.500 I mean, for comedians, it's a test of how quick you can think on your feet and how funny you are.
00:03:16.820 For politicians, it's a test of how quick you can think on your feet and how smart you are or how funny you are.
00:03:22.960 A funny reply to a heckler can be as winning for a politician as for a comedian.
00:03:28.280 So how did boy Trudeau do?
00:03:31.540 Well, I'll show you.
00:03:32.560 Just FYI, the grandmother who heckles Trudeau, she's talking about Trudeau's decision to let in tens of thousands of illegal immigrants from the United States, just walking right across our borders, not applying legally, but pretending to be refugees when, of course, they're not.
00:03:48.220 No one coming from the United States is a refugee, but Trudeau lets them all stay, and he even puts them up in hotels at the expense of Canadian taxpayers.
00:03:57.260 So without further ado, watch this grandmother heckle Trudeau and watch his response.
00:04:03.140 Madame, on a livrƩ une augmentation du supplƩment de revenus garantie de 1 000 $ par mois, de 1 000 $ par annƩe pour les aƮnƩs, les seuls et les plus vulnƩrables.
00:04:14.740 On est inversƩ Ơ des milliards de dollars pour l'allocation de la guerre aux enfants.
00:04:20.780 Ƈa fait une Ć©norme diffĆ©rence dans la vie de famille Ć  travers la province et le pays.
00:04:26.980 Madame, une des choses importantes, madame, en politique, c'est l'Ć©coute.
00:04:33.400 Mes amis, c'est l'Ć©coute qui compte.
00:04:35.660 On est en dialogue.
00:04:37.420 Je suis...
00:04:37.760 Bien, vous me rƩpondez pas, rƩpondez pas, rƩpondez pas, monsieur.
00:04:40.880 C'est pas trĆØs gentil.
00:04:41.740 RĆ©pondez-moi.
00:04:43.620 On est ici pour Ć©changer, pour dialoguer.
00:04:46.640 J'ai bien hĆ¢te de vous Ć©couter ici, Ć  position que vous Ć©coutiez, madame.
00:04:51.180 Vous avez quelque chose Ć  dire, madame?
00:04:52.660 Je veux savoir quand vous allez nous remettre le 146 millions qu'on a payƩ pour vos immigrants illƩgaux.
00:05:00.000 OK, madame.
00:05:01.500 C'est nous autres qui a payƩ pour Ƨa.
00:05:04.020 OK, now, so far, so good.
00:05:05.920 He actually tells the heckling grandma that they have to listen to each other.
00:05:10.540 That sounds calm and friendly enough and respectful enough.
00:05:13.720 And to tell you the truth, it makes him look good, don't you think?
00:05:16.600 So he actually invites her to put her question.
00:05:21.140 And she does.
00:05:22.680 Without insults.
00:05:24.300 Without profanity.
00:05:26.020 She doesn't call him a piece of S-H-I-T, like he called Peter Kent.
00:05:30.860 And it's a real question.
00:05:32.540 What about the $164 million spent on Trudeau's illegal immigrants so far?
00:05:38.220 It's a question that everyone is asking in Canada.
00:05:40.980 At least different versions of that question.
00:05:43.820 Even the mainstream media acknowledges it's an issue.
00:05:46.260 It's a crisis.
00:05:46.960 They use that word, crisis.
00:05:48.740 The opposition in Parliament calls it a crisis.
00:05:50.620 His own bureaucrats call it a crisis.
00:05:52.540 And the liberal premier of Quebec calls it a crisis.
00:05:55.040 So much so that he insists on bussing Trudeau's illegal immigrants to Toronto.
00:06:00.760 Because he doesn't even want them in his province.
00:06:02.620 So what's Trudeau's first answer?
00:06:06.300 She was heckling him.
00:06:08.080 But then he invited her to put her question, get it out of her system.
00:06:11.500 And she did very succinctly.
00:06:14.140 I mean, sure, she's irritating.
00:06:15.480 But if you don't like that, don't go into politics.
00:06:19.620 She put her question and immediately, his immediate reaction was to attack her as racist.
00:06:27.200 She didn't call him names.
00:06:29.420 But he immediately called her, and presumably anyone else who dares to share the same opinions
00:06:33.780 as her, why they're intolerant, racist.
00:06:37.920 Take a look.
00:06:38.300 So she's intolerant.
00:06:58.240 She's racist towards immigrants.
00:07:00.480 But she wasn't.
00:07:01.500 She just asked him a real question.
00:07:04.180 Who's going to pay for it all?
00:07:05.080 Why does she have to pay $146 million along with other taxpayers?
00:07:08.620 How's that a racist question?
00:07:10.660 What's that got to do with race at all?
00:07:13.480 Trudeau is setting the example on how to treat people who disagree.
00:07:17.440 You can see other people telling her to shut up.
00:07:20.120 Now, fair enough.
00:07:21.080 She can dish it out.
00:07:22.300 She can take it.
00:07:23.020 But then, look, look, someone falsely accuses her of making a threat of violence.
00:07:29.740 I mean, it's a hoax, but right away, a plainclothes RCMP officer comes right over to check it out.
00:07:36.360 And she obviously denies it.
00:07:37.880 And we know the truth because we've been listening and watching her.
00:07:42.500 You can tell the guy who comes over as RCMP because he's got an earpiece in his ear.
00:07:47.240 He talks to her once or twice, but he basically leaves her alone.
00:07:50.700 Take a look.
00:07:53.020 Hey, Mr. Trudeau.
00:08:00.740 Hey, Mr. Trudeau.
00:08:04.680 Hey, Mr. Trudeau.
00:08:16.960 Hey, Mr. Trudeau.
00:08:30.900 Hey, Mr. Trudeau.
00:08:32.120 Hey, Mr. Trudeau.
00:08:32.620 Hey, Mr. Trudeau.
00:08:38.200 Monsieur Trudeau, ĆŖtes-vous tolĆ©rant avec les QuĆ©bĆ©cois de tous ?
00:08:52.200 On n'est pas un territoire Mohawk !
00:09:03.200 On n'est pas un territoire Mohawk !
00:09:09.200 Avez-vous, c'est la place de l'Europe enverte les QuƩbƩcois de tous ?
00:09:13.200 So she's responded in an interesting way.
00:09:16.200 She was just accused by Justin Trudeau of being intolerant
00:09:19.200 because she dared to question his immigration crisis and specifically its costs.
00:09:23.200 By the way, most Canadians are opposed to Trudeau on immigration.
00:09:26.200 Trudeau's own polls show that 92% of Canadians don't want increased immigration,
00:09:31.200 but he's forcing it on us anyways.
00:09:33.200 You could say he's intolerant of our views.
00:09:36.200 So she asks Trudeau, and she says Mr. Trudeau.
00:09:39.200 She's being even more polite now actually.
00:09:42.200 She asks if Mr. Trudeau is tolerant of old stock Quebecers.
00:09:47.200 And remember, this is in Quebec.
00:09:49.200 Their ethnic identity, their distinct society status,
00:09:52.200 their specialness has been drummed into the rest of us Canadians
00:09:56.200 by liberal politicians for 50 years since the FLQ crisis, right?
00:10:00.200 So it's hardly radical what she says there.
00:10:02.200 Quebecers do have an ethnic cultural identity.
00:10:06.200 I mean, don't be surprised.
00:10:07.200 It's what we've been told to accept for decades.
00:10:10.200 It's really for centuries since Lower Canada was given special French Catholic privileges
00:10:15.200 under the British Empire, and that's fine by me.
00:10:18.200 Quebecers obviously are different than the rest of Canadians.
00:10:21.200 My point is, this woman wasn't asking anything that Trudeau himself hasn't said his whole life.
00:10:28.200 He's a Quebec chauvinist himself.
00:10:30.200 Remember this?
00:10:31.200 Quebecers are better than the rest of Canada because, you know, we're Quebecers.
00:10:39.200 Yeah.
00:10:40.200 So let's keep watching now.
00:10:42.200 So the speech is over.
00:10:43.200 She had her heckles.
00:10:45.200 The RCMP came over, stood right by her, obviously saw who she was.
00:10:49.200 An angry grandma, but not anyone posing any danger at all.
00:10:53.200 Not making threats, not swearing, not really even shouting except to be heard.
00:10:58.200 Trudeau himself invited her to speak.
00:11:01.200 She did.
00:11:02.200 Everything's fine.
00:11:03.200 I mean, Trudeau's reaction was way, way over the top,
00:11:07.200 immediately escalating to calling her names.
00:11:09.200 So let's keep watching because the worst is yet to come.
00:11:13.200 Now notice there's a guy behind her in a cap, a light shirt and a dark knapsack.
00:11:19.200 That's another RCMP officer in plain clothes.
00:11:22.200 He follows her towards Trudeau.
00:11:24.200 And again, no problem.
00:11:26.200 That's good policing.
00:11:27.200 Just to make sure nothing goes wrong.
00:11:29.200 Just to make sure she doesn't, I don't know, try to hit him or something or grab him.
00:11:35.200 But he's so low key at first.
00:11:39.200 Take a look.
00:11:40.200 Don't let go with her.
00:11:41.200 Don't letęœ¬å½“ say!
00:11:43.200 Don't let go with her!
00:11:45.200 No problem.
00:11:46.200 Don't let you come from here!
00:11:47.200 No problem!
00:11:48.200 Hey!
00:11:50.200 And I haven't put up my lines on that.
00:11:51.200 I haven't done anything in the line!
00:11:52.200 I can't do anything in my opinion.
00:11:57.200 But maybe write-ן them at once.
00:12:00.200 And she's going to give up possible.
00:12:03.200 Mr. Trudeau, ĆŖtes-vous solĆ©rant avec les QuĆ©bĆ©cois de Sourge?
00:12:16.780 Ɗtes-vous solĆ©rant avec les QuĆ©bĆ©cois de Sourge?
00:12:20.580 RƩpondez-moi, vous avez pas votre place au QuƩbec.
00:12:25.900 Allez-vous m'envie?
00:12:27.320 Vous avez pas votre place au QuƩbec.
00:12:28.880 Je suis fier quƩbƩcois, madame.
00:12:31.020 Je suis fier quƩbƩcois.
00:12:33.200 So he calls her racist a few more times and says he's a proud Quebecer.
00:12:37.960 And he says she does not belong in Quebec.
00:12:41.520 You can see a couple more RCMP in very dark vests,
00:12:44.180 helping to push them forward, push people back.
00:12:46.180 You can hear her, but you can't see her anymore.
00:12:50.520 But now look at this new camera angle.
00:12:52.360 And for about 10 seconds, you can't hear her anymore either.
00:12:56.760 Take a look.
00:12:57.140 Look at that.
00:13:10.800 Look back there near the tractors.
00:13:13.920 The guy who was following her when she approached the prime minister,
00:13:17.240 you can see his hat.
00:13:18.680 You can see his backpack there near the tractors.
00:13:20.460 You can see her shirt, and he's holding her.
00:13:25.420 He's got her, and he's moved her over to the tractors.
00:13:30.380 Okay, keep rolling.
00:13:31.220 They're demanding an ID card from her.
00:13:47.780 Why?
00:13:48.740 But look what they're doing to her arm there.
00:13:50.200 Look at how they're holding her arm.
00:13:51.820 Look at how they're bending it for maximum pain.
00:13:56.960 They're holding her bicep and pushing her wrist down.
00:14:02.980 Now, she's far away from the prime minister now.
00:14:05.520 He has left.
00:14:06.640 You saw him leave.
00:14:08.560 She never said anything threatening to him.
00:14:10.540 She asked him a question, and then you saw it.
00:14:12.900 He came.
00:14:13.820 When he left, he walked right to her.
00:14:16.160 He leaned over.
00:14:17.040 He came up to her for him to have another go at her.
00:14:20.500 He went to her.
00:14:22.380 He obviously wasn't scared of her, but he wasn't ignoring her either.
00:14:27.960 He went up to her to humiliate her a bit, to quarrel with her a bit.
00:14:32.900 So he wasn't scared of her, and she wasn't scary.
00:14:35.260 And he's the one who insulted her, saying she does not belong in Quebec.
00:14:40.400 You heard him say that.
00:14:43.080 And so the RCMP pull her away?
00:14:46.760 Why?
00:14:47.620 Trudeau came towards her to finish their quarrel.
00:14:53.080 But now, to hurt her like that, to bend her wrist like that, for what?
00:14:59.100 Watch some more.
00:14:59.780 OK.
00:15:00.340 So I don't know if you noticed it, but a second ender cop,
00:15:30.340 the undercover cop, comes over.
00:15:31.980 But really, why does she have to go with them?
00:15:35.520 Trudeau has left.
00:15:36.480 He bravely came up to her, called her some names.
00:15:38.860 She didn't call him names.
00:15:39.960 In fact, she's calling him Mr. Trudeau now.
00:15:42.260 He called her names.
00:15:44.100 But they're handling her, bruising her.
00:15:46.760 She says, I don't know if she's telling the truth about being bruised,
00:15:49.340 but it sure didn't look comfortable to have your wrist like that.
00:15:53.160 Trudeau has left.
00:15:54.260 And even if he hadn't, what had she done?
00:15:57.620 In fact, it wasn't Trudeau who came over to her.
00:16:00.340 Keep rolling the tape.
00:16:01.580 Tu m'as fait un bleu?
00:16:03.100 Regarde!
00:16:03.580 Qu'est-ce que je fais?
00:16:07.520 Ben, j'ai juste dit Ơ M. Trudeau, j'ai posƩ des questions Ơ M. Trudeau.
00:16:11.180 C'est bon?
00:16:12.580 A douleur sur l'opinion.
00:16:14.580 J'ai douleur sur l'opinion, puis je suis pas obligĆ© de t'arrĆŖter quand je lui demandais des questions.
00:16:19.760 Je suis en train de faire raison.
00:16:20.980 C'est Ƨa.
00:16:22.020 Et vous me questionz, savez-vous?
00:16:23.480 Non, j'en ai pas, lĆ¢che-moi.
00:16:24.940 C'est quoi votre nom?
00:16:26.680 Je ne saura pas.
00:16:28.140 Je ne suis pas ici, madame.
00:16:29.100 She's not done, really?
00:16:43.480 And what more will he do to her?
00:16:46.820 And on what basis will he do it?
00:16:49.820 Has she been depersoned yet by Trudeau, fired from her job,
00:16:54.960 though I sense she's probably retired, humiliated in public?
00:16:57.460 Oh, that will come soon enough.
00:16:59.940 On what grounds would the police not be done with her yet?
00:17:05.740 You know, the police in Quebec know how to be very hospitable,
00:17:09.200 super friendly, very accommodating to foreign illegal immigrants breaking the law.
00:17:15.200 Then the police are positively bellhops, carrying luggage, fetching them lunch.
00:17:21.100 But they're illegal immigrants.
00:17:23.040 This woman is much worse.
00:17:24.200 She's an old-stock Quebecer, asking about illegal immigrants,
00:17:28.080 and Trudeau says she doesn't belong in the province.
00:17:32.000 So the police aren't done with her yet.
00:17:34.120 Two of them now.
00:17:35.480 Trudeau's long gone.
00:17:36.660 He's in his bulletproof limo.
00:17:38.020 He's gone back to another personal day or whatever.
00:17:40.140 But this woman's not free to go yet.
00:17:43.640 But watch this next part.
00:17:44.880 It's classic.
00:17:46.220 It's amazing, actually.
00:17:47.720 Take a look.
00:17:48.160 Non, mais moi, j'ai fini quand tu m'as fait mal.
00:17:50.860 Hey!
00:17:51.540 Tu m'as fait mal!
00:17:52.980 Garde le bleu que tu m'as fait.
00:17:55.080 Regarde!
00:17:55.900 Tiens, qui va te poser?
00:17:57.040 Garde le bleu que tu m'as fait.
00:17:58.260 OK, madame.
00:17:58.820 LĆ , vous allez juste Ć©couter.
00:18:00.200 Non, je sais pas.
00:18:01.140 Ce monsieur-lĆ  aussi.
00:18:02.420 Madame?
00:18:04.620 Vous sommes tƩmoins de libertƩ d'expression au QuƩbec?
00:18:08.040 Oui!
00:18:08.540 Tu vois, je connais pas.
00:18:11.040 J'avais le droit de mettre l'expression Ć  M. Trudeau,
00:18:13.400 puis il nous trĆØs bien tolĆ©rant.
00:18:14.760 C'est lui qui est intolƩrant avec les QuƩbƩcois de source.
00:18:17.160 Non, c'est hysterique, c'est une femme.
00:18:22.340 Un gars qui dit qu'elle a une opinion, lui, il y a des couilles.
00:18:25.520 Une femme qui dit son opinion est hysterique.
00:18:27.980 Laisse me dire.
00:18:30.880 Oh, you're hysterical, lady.
00:18:33.240 You're mad.
00:18:34.480 Isn't she great?
00:18:35.540 She says, no, if I were a man, you'd say I had balls.
00:18:39.420 But again, really, who was hysterical?
00:18:42.320 This woman or Trudeau?
00:18:43.680 They both shouted, but only Trudeau called her names.
00:18:47.160 Six times?
00:18:49.200 They both exercised their freedom of speech,
00:18:51.540 but only Trudeau's bodyguards thought that a physical altercation was necessary.
00:18:57.320 And if someone did that to my arm because I dared to question the precious one,
00:19:02.560 I'd probably be more hysterical than she was.
00:19:06.000 That's it.
00:19:07.100 She leaves after that.
00:19:07.980 The tape ends in about 10 more seconds.
00:19:10.200 Hey, did you see any of the footage I just showed you on TV?
00:19:14.120 I understand that CTV actually played a brief clip of her hollering at the PM,
00:19:18.760 but did you see on TV him insulting her six times, calling her racist, calling her intolerant,
00:19:25.100 and saying she has no place in Quebec?
00:19:30.220 But more to the point, did you see him going over to her afterwards to grind her face in it,
00:19:35.020 to really rub it in her face?
00:19:37.360 She was intolerant that there's no place in this country for her.
00:19:39.920 No, you did not see that on CTV or CBC, at least not as of the moment I'm recording this.
00:19:45.240 And you did not see the clip of the bodyguards bending her wrist,
00:19:48.480 roughing her up just a little bit, just enough to leave a mark,
00:19:52.100 even just for a few minutes on her arm,
00:19:53.860 and just enough to psychologically mark her,
00:19:57.080 so that she knows if she does it again, she'll be hurt,
00:20:00.320 maybe hurt much worse.
00:20:01.860 Did you see that on the media party TV stations?
00:20:05.200 No, you did not.
00:20:07.380 Four times Justin Trudeau said she was intolerant.
00:20:10.340 Two times said she was racist.
00:20:11.820 No place here.
00:20:14.040 Twice to be called racist.
00:20:16.100 No place in Quebec.
00:20:19.080 That's six insults to her for asking a question,
00:20:21.760 for daring to ask about the number one issue in Quebec today.
00:20:25.980 That's not insignificant to note the liberal partisan
00:20:29.360 who falsely accused her of making threats.
00:20:32.060 Remember earlier in the video,
00:20:34.200 falsely accusing her of making threats.
00:20:35.780 You saw it was false.
00:20:37.240 And of course, it is important to note the bodyguards
00:20:39.760 who she did not make any threats.
00:20:42.260 They were treating her as if she did.
00:20:45.300 Did you see this comedy headline over the weekend?
00:20:49.140 Trudeau says 2019 election is fight against polarization.
00:20:53.080 And then says liberals want positive politics.
00:20:56.560 Conservatives reject.
00:20:57.620 Imagine being a reporter,
00:21:00.580 watching Trudeau insult this woman six times,
00:21:03.060 and then writing that absurd headline.
00:21:05.500 Trudeau wants a healing, positive country,
00:21:08.280 unlike those evil conservatives.
00:21:10.540 This, my friends, is what we're in for
00:21:13.200 for the next 12 months.
00:21:16.140 You are that grandma.
00:21:18.960 If you dare to ask any questions,
00:21:21.620 however nicely or however loudly,
00:21:23.400 you will be called intolerant and racist
00:21:27.660 and that you have no place in this country.
00:21:30.640 Not the place that illegal immigrants have,
00:21:33.000 that's for sure.
00:21:34.760 And the media party,
00:21:35.860 they will cheer along with your denunciation.
00:21:39.220 Say, what do you think the media party would have done
00:21:41.600 if it were Stephen Harper who had smeared
00:21:44.880 a liberal citizen six times in two minutes
00:21:47.520 as a bigot merely for asking a question
00:21:49.340 about government spending?
00:21:51.960 And if Harper had literally walked up
00:21:53.700 to that grandma afterwards
00:21:54.740 to pick a fight some more,
00:21:56.500 and then if Harper's bodyguards
00:21:58.080 would have bent a grandma's wrist
00:21:59.940 just to teach her a little lesson?
00:22:03.180 Yeah, it would be crisis-style coverage
00:22:04.800 for a week.
00:22:06.520 But for Trudeau,
00:22:07.340 well, the media knows its job.
00:22:09.620 Ignore this story
00:22:10.520 or denounce the woman as a bigot, too.
00:22:12.900 I wonder how Andrew Scheer's going to fare
00:22:16.280 in a battle like this.
00:22:18.460 Stay with us for more.
00:22:36.100 Welcome back.
00:22:36.940 Well, I think the key issue of our age
00:22:39.300 is internet censorship.
00:22:40.900 That censorship,
00:22:41.820 I wouldn't have said anything so obscure
00:22:44.600 just a few years ago,
00:22:46.600 but censorship did not rear its ugly head
00:22:49.620 until more recently,
00:22:50.720 and it's become increasingly politicized
00:22:53.780 and weaponized
00:22:54.820 against a particular point of view,
00:22:57.160 namely conservatives.
00:22:58.200 It's gotten so bad
00:22:59.380 that President Donald Trump himself
00:23:01.640 weighed in on the matter over the weekend
00:23:03.240 in a series of three tweets.
00:23:05.360 Let me read them to you.
00:23:07.520 Social media is totally discriminating
00:23:09.820 against Republican conservative voices.
00:23:12.260 Speaking loudly and clearly
00:23:13.540 for the Trump administration,
00:23:14.860 we won't let that happen.
00:23:16.840 They are closing down the opinions
00:23:18.180 of many people on the right
00:23:19.340 while at the same time
00:23:20.420 doing nothing to others.
00:23:22.560 And the next one,
00:23:23.900 censorship is a very dangerous thing
00:23:25.780 and absolutely impossible to police.
00:23:28.740 If you are weeding out fake news,
00:23:30.460 there is nothing so fake
00:23:31.420 as CNN and MSNBC.
00:23:32.860 And yet I do not ask
00:23:35.120 that their sick behavior be removed.
00:23:37.300 I get used to it
00:23:38.160 and watch with a grain of salt
00:23:39.380 or don't watch at all.
00:23:40.920 And last one,
00:23:42.720 too many voices are being destroyed,
00:23:44.580 some good and some bad,
00:23:45.700 and that cannot be allowed to happen.
00:23:47.500 Who is making the choices?
00:23:48.660 Because I can already tell you
00:23:50.120 that too many mistakes are being made.
00:23:52.420 Let everybody participate,
00:23:54.060 good and bad,
00:23:54.800 and we will all just have to figure it out.
00:23:57.600 I think that's actually
00:23:58.400 a fairly thoughtful intervention,
00:23:59.940 appealing to our better nature,
00:24:02.680 calling for freedom of speech
00:24:03.880 even for views
00:24:04.620 he doesn't himself support,
00:24:06.480 and pointing out
00:24:07.380 that one man's fake news
00:24:08.580 is another man's CNN,
00:24:10.500 and he's fine with that.
00:24:11.620 He's never called for CNN
00:24:12.780 to be banned
00:24:13.500 despite their squawking.
00:24:15.400 What exactly is he referring to?
00:24:17.980 Well, one case that fits the bill
00:24:20.000 is that of our friend Robert Spencer,
00:24:22.040 the boss of Jihad Watch,
00:24:23.540 who suddenly and without notice
00:24:25.320 was informed
00:24:26.880 that his Patreon account,
00:24:28.960 which is not only
00:24:30.300 a source of funding
00:24:31.740 but an online communications tool,
00:24:34.140 was being suspended.
00:24:37.020 He suddenly saw this
00:24:39.580 when he went to log in.
00:24:40.360 Your account has been disabled.
00:24:41.780 If you believe this is an error,
00:24:42.900 please visit our help center.
00:24:44.580 And they actually sent him
00:24:45.660 an email.
00:24:47.400 Put that up on the screen.
00:24:49.880 Hi, Robert.
00:24:50.340 My name is April,
00:24:51.020 and I'm on the trust and safety team
00:24:52.780 here at Patreon.
00:24:54.000 I've been notified by MasterCard
00:24:55.740 that we must remove your account
00:24:58.320 from Patreon
00:24:59.020 effective immediately.
00:25:02.200 MasterCard has a stricter set
00:25:03.360 of rules and regulations
00:25:04.160 than Patreon,
00:25:05.040 and they reserve the right
00:25:05.940 to not offer their services
00:25:07.400 to accounts of their choosing.
00:25:09.940 They announced that they will
00:25:11.140 pay out Robert,
00:25:12.280 the final amount there,
00:25:13.740 and they just shut him down.
00:25:15.580 No appeal, no nothing.
00:25:17.480 And joining us now via Skype
00:25:18.640 is our friend,
00:25:20.180 Robert Spencer.
00:25:20.760 Robert, welcome back to the show.
00:25:22.760 Always great to be here, Ezra.
00:25:23.920 Thank you.
00:25:24.520 You know, it's not just
00:25:25.200 the censorship of your voice.
00:25:26.480 That's one thing.
00:25:27.680 But they're actually banning you
00:25:29.840 from banking.
00:25:31.400 I've never heard of a credit card
00:25:33.080 company banning someone
00:25:35.840 from having a credit card
00:25:37.160 or using a credit card
00:25:38.300 for reasons other than fraud.
00:25:41.820 Yeah.
00:25:42.060 And here it's a political ban
00:25:44.280 from a bank.
00:25:45.740 Yeah.
00:25:46.120 There's no doubt about it.
00:25:47.480 They won't give a reason.
00:25:48.540 I repeatedly asked Patreon,
00:25:50.580 why?
00:25:51.020 What rule did I break?
00:25:52.020 What guideline did I transgress?
00:25:54.100 Nothing.
00:25:54.920 And then Breitbart
00:25:56.320 went to MasterCard
00:25:57.600 and MasterCard actually told them
00:25:58.920 that it was because
00:25:59.800 I had illegal content
00:26:01.440 on my website.
00:26:03.920 Illegal content?
00:26:05.020 I didn't know MasterCard
00:26:06.140 had a court
00:26:08.160 that they could determine
00:26:09.200 what content is illegal or not.
00:26:10.780 And I didn't know
00:26:11.900 that that was MasterCard's business.
00:26:13.660 That is so bizarre.
00:26:16.400 It is.
00:26:16.780 I have 60,000 posts
00:26:18.960 on Jihad Watch.
00:26:20.140 It's news and commentary
00:26:21.060 going back to 2003.
00:26:22.760 There's not a shred of illegality
00:26:24.220 about any of it
00:26:25.120 unless, of course,
00:26:26.020 you're talking about
00:26:26.700 from the standpoint
00:26:27.520 of Islamic law.
00:26:28.680 Then there's plenty
00:26:29.300 that's illegal
00:26:29.840 because criticism of Islam
00:26:31.300 and Jihad terror
00:26:32.380 is forbidden in Islam.
00:26:34.860 Well, that's a good point.
00:26:35.500 If you were based in Turkey
00:26:36.560 or Saudi Arabia
00:26:38.020 or Iran...
00:26:39.120 That's plenty illegal.
00:26:40.560 And, you know,
00:26:41.680 the Bank of Riyadh said
00:26:43.480 you're breaking our rules.
00:26:45.040 You would probably be able
00:26:45.980 to guess what they're talking about.
00:26:47.000 But MasterCard,
00:26:48.120 if I'm not mistaken,
00:26:49.120 is headquartered
00:26:49.760 in the United States.
00:26:51.460 As far as I know, yes.
00:26:52.700 But I understand
00:26:53.680 that they do have
00:26:54.440 extensive holdings
00:26:55.440 in the Middle East.
00:26:56.500 And so it did occur to me,
00:26:57.900 and of course,
00:26:58.400 they're not talking,
00:26:59.500 at least so far,
00:27:00.720 but it did occur to me
00:27:02.100 that this may actually be
00:27:03.640 a Sharia decision,
00:27:05.360 a decision based on,
00:27:06.480 excuse me,
00:27:07.280 on Islamic law,
00:27:08.220 because they may want
00:27:09.840 to not offend
00:27:10.640 their business partners
00:27:12.340 in Middle Eastern countries.
00:27:14.520 Now, I've heard of Patreon.
00:27:16.520 I mean, Patreon is
00:27:17.760 an interesting social media service.
00:27:20.140 We don't really use it
00:27:20.940 here at The Rebel.
00:27:21.960 It's a way that people
00:27:23.020 can show their content.
00:27:24.860 And as you can see
00:27:25.440 in the name Patreon
00:27:26.380 to patrons.
00:27:28.060 We use PayPal.
00:27:29.640 We crowdfund,
00:27:30.640 and people chip in
00:27:31.360 through PayPal.
00:27:31.880 But Patreon was really built
00:27:33.520 for artists,
00:27:35.280 people who weren't getting
00:27:36.400 a lot of money
00:27:36.900 from YouTube.
00:27:38.060 So it was a system
00:27:39.360 where they could let
00:27:40.260 only their patrons
00:27:41.800 get the first view
00:27:43.340 or a sneak preview.
00:27:44.280 It's a great system.
00:27:46.160 Obviously, you signed up
00:27:47.380 for Patreon for your work,
00:27:51.060 a way for your grassroots viewers
00:27:52.880 to support you.
00:27:54.040 If someone doesn't want
00:27:55.340 to support you,
00:27:55.960 they don't have to support you.
00:27:57.140 It's bizarre to me
00:27:58.060 that a company would stop
00:28:00.160 a lawful,
00:28:01.460 you know,
00:28:02.720 commercial transaction
00:28:04.220 between you
00:28:05.260 and your consenting supporters.
00:28:07.860 It's bizarre
00:28:08.980 that anyone could object
00:28:10.040 to a happy legal act
00:28:13.000 of commerce like that.
00:28:14.560 Yeah, it's bizarre, Ezra,
00:28:15.780 because that's what they're
00:28:17.000 in the business of offering.
00:28:18.560 And so if they stop offering it
00:28:20.000 on the basis of disliking
00:28:21.280 people's political views,
00:28:22.880 well, obviously,
00:28:23.460 the question next is,
00:28:24.680 where does it stop?
00:28:25.740 And you're right.
00:28:26.580 You know, people,
00:28:27.340 I sometimes hear about
00:28:28.500 people's YouTube videos
00:28:29.920 being demonetized,
00:28:31.600 and I always laugh
00:28:32.360 because I was demonetized
00:28:34.140 before they were monetized.
00:28:35.360 They never have allowed me
00:28:38.080 to earn any money on YouTube.
00:28:40.600 All my videos there
00:28:41.720 are for free.
00:28:43.080 And as it happened,
00:28:43.860 I came into the possession
00:28:44.800 of an old TV studio,
00:28:46.360 thought I would fix it up,
00:28:47.440 and went to Patreon
00:28:48.380 to raise money to do this.
00:28:50.060 And as you say,
00:28:50.820 everybody who signed up
00:28:52.160 to help
00:28:52.620 was somebody
00:28:53.360 who already likes my work
00:28:54.840 and was doing it
00:28:55.720 voluntarily.
00:28:57.200 So the idea
00:28:58.060 that Patreon or MasterCard
00:28:59.600 would object to this
00:29:00.580 is obviously clear,
00:29:02.400 just viewpoint censorship,
00:29:03.560 which is supposed to be illegal
00:29:05.560 in the United States.
00:29:06.900 Well, that's interesting
00:29:07.740 because about a year ago,
00:29:09.820 we had a cruise booked
00:29:11.660 with Norwegian Cruise Line.
00:29:13.580 And without notice,
00:29:14.840 warning, or appeal,
00:29:15.820 they just said,
00:29:16.720 no, we're not having you on there.
00:29:18.280 And it was clear
00:29:19.180 that they were pressured
00:29:20.160 by a group
00:29:21.120 that was taking credit for it,
00:29:22.580 a Soros-backed group
00:29:23.760 in the United Kingdom
00:29:24.480 called Hope Not Hate.
00:29:26.000 Now, we returned a lawyer
00:29:26.980 to look into this,
00:29:27.980 and the lawyer reviewed
00:29:28.760 our contract
00:29:29.320 with the cruise line
00:29:30.380 and came back and said,
00:29:32.620 the terms of service
00:29:33.340 are so one-sided,
00:29:34.460 you really don't have a case.
00:29:35.860 And we didn't want
00:29:36.460 to waste the money trying.
00:29:38.840 But it would seem to me
00:29:40.120 that if MasterCard is saying,
00:29:42.680 I mean, we weren't
00:29:43.500 really told anything.
00:29:44.840 They just dropped us.
00:29:46.900 But if you have actually
00:29:48.040 been told
00:29:48.800 that you are breaking the law,
00:29:51.540 but no court has said so,
00:29:54.160 it sounds to me,
00:29:55.900 I'm not going to say
00:29:56.740 you have a defamation case,
00:29:57.860 but you may have some case
00:29:59.520 and to be able to smoke out
00:30:00.900 from Patreon or MasterCard
00:30:03.900 what basis it was
00:30:06.140 for them to do this to you.
00:30:07.180 And the reason
00:30:07.500 I'm going down this road,
00:30:08.680 just bear with me
00:30:09.160 for one more minute,
00:30:10.080 is because a few months ago,
00:30:12.360 the Southern Poverty Law Center,
00:30:15.300 which is a left-wing smear group,
00:30:18.220 they smear everyone
00:30:18.860 they don't like as racist,
00:30:20.680 they went after someone
00:30:22.000 in London named Majid Nawaz,
00:30:24.520 who is the head
00:30:26.280 of the Quilliam Foundation,
00:30:27.440 and he says
00:30:28.160 he's a progressive Muslim
00:30:29.560 for moderation
00:30:31.020 and against extremism.
00:30:32.900 And I'm not going to ask you
00:30:33.940 for your view on him
00:30:34.820 because that's not relevant.
00:30:35.720 I'm just saying
00:30:36.120 that's who he is.
00:30:37.620 And I've been following him
00:30:38.940 fairly closely
00:30:39.560 and I like some of the work he does.
00:30:42.380 He sued
00:30:44.120 the Southern Poverty Law Center
00:30:46.620 and before it even went to court,
00:30:48.560 in fact,
00:30:49.000 before I think,
00:30:50.120 I don't even know
00:30:50.900 if he actually filed a claim,
00:30:53.400 they settled with him
00:30:54.500 for more than $3 million
00:30:55.660 and gave him
00:30:57.300 an amazing
00:30:58.640 videotaped apology
00:31:01.020 spoken by no one
00:31:02.260 less than their boss.
00:31:03.940 And so that's a very long preamble,
00:31:05.580 but my question to you is,
00:31:07.880 would you consider suing
00:31:09.840 Patreon and particularly MasterCard,
00:31:13.160 not just to be reinstated,
00:31:15.880 but so that the lawsuit
00:31:16.860 could flush out
00:31:18.040 who the hidden hand was
00:31:19.900 that was blackballing you
00:31:21.660 and that perhaps
00:31:23.020 they would restore your account
00:31:24.780 and maybe even so.
00:31:25.600 They gave Majid Nawaz
00:31:26.740 more than $3 million.
00:31:28.300 Would you consider suing?
00:31:30.300 Oh, absolutely, Ezra.
00:31:31.940 And as a matter of fact,
00:31:32.940 there is a letter
00:31:33.940 that is going,
00:31:34.980 I think today,
00:31:36.080 from an attorney
00:31:36.900 to MasterCard
00:31:37.800 and so we'll see
00:31:38.580 how that develops.
00:31:39.740 I do suspect
00:31:40.580 that the palsied hand
00:31:41.640 of the Southern Poverty Law Center
00:31:42.860 is behind this.
00:31:44.120 I'm on that same
00:31:44.980 anti-Muslim extremist list
00:31:46.600 that Majid Nawaz was on.
00:31:48.400 I had contacted lawyers
00:31:50.260 to try to attempt
00:31:51.280 to sue the Southern Poverty Law Center
00:31:52.740 myself,
00:31:53.680 but they have explained to me
00:31:55.060 that he had the benefit
00:31:56.280 of UK libel laws,
00:31:59.440 which favor the plaintiff,
00:32:01.240 whereas US libel laws
00:32:03.000 favor the defendant.
00:32:04.460 And so nobody so far
00:32:05.660 has been willing
00:32:06.200 to take the case,
00:32:07.080 but I'm still trying
00:32:07.960 and still hoping
00:32:08.960 to find somebody.
00:32:10.000 The Southern Poverty Law Center,
00:32:11.320 as you say,
00:32:11.900 they just try to destroy
00:32:13.660 people whose views
00:32:15.080 they dislike.
00:32:15.680 And if people don't stand
00:32:18.160 up to this group,
00:32:19.240 it's going to get
00:32:19.780 a lot worse
00:32:20.420 in terms of freedom of speech
00:32:22.200 and the ability
00:32:23.400 for dissenters
00:32:24.780 from the leftist agenda
00:32:25.800 to be heard at all
00:32:27.280 in the West.
00:32:28.600 I'm not even saying
00:32:29.580 to sue them
00:32:30.040 for defamation.
00:32:32.460 I'm saying to sue them
00:32:33.580 for a breach of contract
00:32:34.740 or for some inducement
00:32:37.100 of breach of contract.
00:32:38.060 The fact that MasterCard
00:32:39.820 cut you off
00:32:40.780 and apparently claimed
00:32:42.740 you broke the law,
00:32:43.980 it's not even
00:32:44.640 the defamation
00:32:45.360 of their smear
00:32:46.920 that you broke the law.
00:32:47.820 It's that they thought
00:32:49.740 they had enough
00:32:50.340 to break off
00:32:51.280 a commercial deal
00:32:53.020 with you.
00:32:53.460 I think they would
00:32:54.900 be terrified
00:32:55.500 to have all their emails
00:32:57.240 and phone calls
00:32:58.360 and everything
00:32:58.940 brought out
00:32:59.860 into the light of day.
00:33:00.660 I really think
00:33:01.400 it's worth pursuing.
00:33:03.120 And Donald Trump,
00:33:04.280 I don't know
00:33:05.120 what you thought
00:33:05.580 about those three tweets
00:33:06.520 I read at the top
00:33:07.260 of our interview.
00:33:08.300 I think he tweets
00:33:10.660 if he's about to do
00:33:11.640 something more substantive.
00:33:12.780 He's starting to soften
00:33:14.260 up the ground
00:33:14.920 by talking about it.
00:33:16.240 I think that your suit
00:33:17.340 against MasterCard
00:33:18.260 is something
00:33:18.640 that you should really
00:33:19.580 look at seriously,
00:33:20.920 not from a defamation
00:33:21.640 point of view,
00:33:22.240 but to fight back.
00:33:23.540 If they can cut off
00:33:24.800 our banking
00:33:25.660 and our finances,
00:33:26.900 they can cut off
00:33:27.920 our entire project.
00:33:30.020 Yours,
00:33:30.380 ours,
00:33:30.660 everybody's.
00:33:31.840 Absolutely,
00:33:32.440 yes.
00:33:33.060 And you're absolutely right.
00:33:34.040 Yeah,
00:33:34.160 I couldn't agree more.
00:33:35.560 It's not solely defamation.
00:33:37.000 We're going after
00:33:37.700 the lawyer's letter.
00:33:38.840 I can't really talk
00:33:39.440 too much about it,
00:33:40.160 obviously,
00:33:40.540 but the lawyer's letter
00:33:41.300 essentially just tells them
00:33:43.160 to give a reason
00:33:43.840 or reinstate me.
00:33:45.440 And so we're going
00:33:46.140 to take it from there
00:33:46.940 depending on how
00:33:47.580 MasterCard responds.
00:33:48.920 Yeah.
00:33:49.360 I mean,
00:33:50.080 it's one thing
00:33:50.900 for the social media giants
00:33:52.260 to be regulated.
00:33:53.240 And as Donald Trump
00:33:54.260 suggests,
00:33:54.900 it's very careful
00:33:56.200 because you don't want
00:33:57.320 to step on the First Amendment.
00:33:58.420 But for a bank
00:33:59.380 to ban someone
00:34:01.460 from banking,
00:34:03.280 there's no First Amendment
00:34:04.860 that's going to protect
00:34:05.640 a bank
00:34:06.220 for blackballing someone.
00:34:08.120 I mean,
00:34:08.480 that's pure
00:34:10.040 lunch counter stuff,
00:34:11.220 back of the bus stuff.
00:34:12.900 Yes.
00:34:13.220 I really think
00:34:14.140 MasterCard's made a mistake here.
00:34:15.880 It'll be interesting
00:34:16.560 to see how stubborn they are.
00:34:18.800 Well,
00:34:19.020 listen,
00:34:19.420 you know what?
00:34:20.100 It's very interesting times.
00:34:21.520 Can you keep us posted?
00:34:22.540 I hear what you're saying.
00:34:23.280 You don't want to give away
00:34:24.060 privileged material
00:34:25.020 that your lawyer is doing,
00:34:26.340 but I really think
00:34:27.640 your case is interesting.
00:34:29.420 I really think it's dangerous
00:34:30.500 because it involves a bank.
00:34:31.880 When you have news,
00:34:33.240 can you share it with us
00:34:34.260 so we can keep
00:34:34.820 our viewers up to date?
00:34:36.240 Oh,
00:34:36.500 yeah,
00:34:36.720 absolutely.
00:34:37.180 And thank you
00:34:37.940 for your interest in the case.
00:34:39.000 I think,
00:34:39.520 obviously,
00:34:40.000 its implications
00:34:40.580 go far beyond me
00:34:41.820 and are very far-reaching.
00:34:43.540 Yeah,
00:34:43.860 I think so,
00:34:44.500 too.
00:34:44.740 Well,
00:34:44.940 listen,
00:34:45.200 it's nice to have you
00:34:45.740 on the show.
00:34:46.220 Stay strong.
00:34:46.900 Give us one minute
00:34:47.840 on how your book's doing.
00:34:49.080 Of course,
00:34:49.620 the history of jihad.
00:34:50.280 Yeah,
00:34:50.480 you know,
00:34:50.820 thanks,
00:34:52.400 Cesare.
00:34:52.680 You know,
00:34:52.880 I'm having a happy
00:34:53.480 problem with that.
00:34:54.600 The book,
00:34:55.260 The History of Jihad,
00:34:56.240 From Muhammad to ISIS,
00:34:57.640 it is doing so well,
00:34:58.840 as a matter of fact.
00:34:59.800 It hit number one
00:35:00.700 in six different
00:35:01.440 Amazon categories.
00:35:02.680 It's doing so much better
00:35:03.680 than anybody expected
00:35:04.660 that we've run out.
00:35:06.300 And so,
00:35:07.020 we are hurrying
00:35:08.720 a second printing now
00:35:09.820 and a third is in the works.
00:35:12.200 And so,
00:35:12.820 it's great demand for it.
00:35:14.800 It's been very well received
00:35:16.080 in initial reviews.
00:35:17.540 And so,
00:35:18.000 I'm very grateful
00:35:18.800 for all of that.
00:35:19.900 Well,
00:35:20.240 that's good to hear.
00:35:21.060 Hopefully,
00:35:21.320 we can get MasterCard
00:35:22.320 back on board
00:35:23.040 so you can sell
00:35:24.180 some books that way.
00:35:25.080 Nice to see you again,
00:35:25.860 Robert.
00:35:26.880 Likewise,
00:35:27.420 Ezra.
00:35:27.660 Thank you.
00:35:28.040 All right.
00:35:28.620 There you have it.
00:35:29.040 Robert Spencer,
00:35:29.800 he's the boss
00:35:30.520 of Jihad Watch,
00:35:32.040 the author of
00:35:32.760 The History of Jihad,
00:35:33.840 and of course,
00:35:34.580 he is the target
00:35:35.400 of Silicon Valley censorship.
00:35:38.620 Stay with us.
00:35:39.120 More ahead on.
00:35:51.200 Welcome back.
00:35:52.040 Well,
00:35:52.140 those of us in the West
00:35:53.200 who follow Islamic Jihad
00:35:55.780 are very cautious
00:35:57.200 about Muslim populations
00:35:58.800 and are very curious
00:36:00.520 about the nature
00:36:01.600 of the Jihad.
00:36:02.520 One country
00:36:03.280 that I think deserves
00:36:04.200 our observation
00:36:05.840 is China,
00:36:07.400 which has a large
00:36:08.260 Muslim minority.
00:36:10.660 And we have
00:36:11.300 the perfect article
00:36:12.180 to lead into
00:36:13.200 that discussion today.
00:36:14.260 It's titled
00:36:15.020 China's Peaceful Muslims
00:36:17.220 Fight Back.
00:36:18.220 And it's published
00:36:19.040 in the Epoch Times,
00:36:20.600 which is a newspaper
00:36:21.740 that focuses
00:36:22.500 on minorities in China,
00:36:24.220 especially the Falun Gong
00:36:25.320 religious minority.
00:36:26.920 And the author
00:36:27.920 of the piece
00:36:28.480 is an old friend
00:36:29.200 of ours,
00:36:29.700 Gordon Chang.
00:36:30.500 He's a writer
00:36:31.160 with the Daily Beast
00:36:32.020 and is the author
00:36:32.980 of the book
00:36:33.480 The Coming Collapse
00:36:34.700 of China.
00:36:35.340 And Gordon Chang
00:36:35.960 joins us now
00:36:36.900 via Skype.
00:36:37.360 Gordon,
00:36:37.520 it's great to see you again.
00:36:39.080 Tell us in what ways
00:36:40.820 the Chinese population
00:36:42.200 of China
00:36:42.980 is different,
00:36:44.020 say,
00:36:44.180 to the Chinese population
00:36:45.260 of Arabia
00:36:46.260 or even the expat
00:36:48.000 Muslim population
00:36:50.000 in Europe.
00:36:51.980 Yeah.
00:36:52.340 There are two large groups
00:36:53.440 of Muslims in China.
00:36:54.760 There are the Uyghurs
00:36:55.660 in northwest China
00:36:56.800 in Xinjiang,
00:36:57.940 and there are the Wei
00:36:59.080 who are further east.
00:37:01.160 And both of them
00:37:02.000 have been very peaceful people,
00:37:03.820 but they both
00:37:04.940 have actually been
00:37:06.120 motivated to activism
00:37:07.700 because of extremely
00:37:09.400 repressive actions
00:37:10.500 on the part
00:37:11.240 of the Beijing government,
00:37:12.920 part of the Communist Party,
00:37:14.180 which is trying
00:37:15.200 to assimilate them
00:37:16.680 and essentially
00:37:17.280 eliminate Islam
00:37:18.640 from China.
00:37:19.520 And of course,
00:37:20.740 this has triggered
00:37:21.840 a pushback
00:37:23.480 from both groups.
00:37:25.340 My piece,
00:37:26.500 which referred
00:37:27.380 to the Wei,
00:37:28.660 they are right now
00:37:30.420 in a struggle
00:37:31.060 to preserve a mosque
00:37:32.320 in a city called
00:37:33.240 Weizhou
00:37:33.800 in the Ningxia
00:37:34.740 Autonomous Region.
00:37:36.840 And this is
00:37:38.020 an important story
00:37:39.260 in the sense
00:37:39.880 that these
00:37:40.920 Wei
00:37:41.620 would never think
00:37:43.380 of opposing Beijing,
00:37:45.340 but they're doing so now
00:37:46.580 because they're trying
00:37:47.360 to preserve
00:37:47.820 their way of life.
00:37:48.760 You know,
00:37:50.240 I visited that province
00:37:52.020 of Xinjiang
00:37:52.740 about 10 years ago
00:37:53.900 and it was interesting
00:37:55.000 to see the Chinese
00:37:56.040 Communist Party's
00:37:57.620 attempt to put
00:37:59.000 the ethnic diversity
00:38:00.480 in a museum.
00:38:01.420 In fact,
00:38:01.720 they had such a museum,
00:38:03.480 the different costumes
00:38:04.820 and the different stories
00:38:05.820 and the end
00:38:07.220 of the narrative
00:38:07.860 in the museum
00:38:08.520 was we're all
00:38:09.240 happy communists now.
00:38:10.880 It's like they wanted
00:38:11.560 to take the specialness
00:38:12.800 of Xinjiang
00:38:14.220 and sort of put it
00:38:15.020 in a box
00:38:15.540 and that's it.
00:38:17.320 My own sense,
00:38:18.600 and I was only
00:38:19.180 there as a tourist
00:38:19.880 and of course
00:38:20.320 I don't have
00:38:20.740 the language facility
00:38:21.580 and I was only
00:38:22.080 there briefly,
00:38:23.040 was that it was
00:38:23.600 the mildest form
00:38:24.600 of Islam
00:38:24.980 I've ever observed.
00:38:26.620 I didn't see
00:38:27.380 any niqabs there.
00:38:29.000 There was,
00:38:30.100 I felt no tension
00:38:31.200 whatsoever
00:38:31.660 and it actually
00:38:32.620 felt very gentle,
00:38:35.360 in some ways
00:38:35.820 more gentle
00:38:36.380 than the bustling
00:38:37.760 parts of China
00:38:38.440 like Shanghai
00:38:39.240 or Beijing.
00:38:39.700 that's just
00:38:40.060 my own anecdote
00:38:40.760 but how much
00:38:43.340 paranoia
00:38:44.540 can China
00:38:45.940 be allowed
00:38:46.920 given
00:38:47.760 the global
00:38:50.320 ambitions
00:38:51.020 of ISIS
00:38:52.400 or even
00:38:53.280 Saudi Arabia
00:38:54.080 and Iran
00:38:54.580 to sort of
00:38:55.420 evangelize Muslims
00:38:56.660 to make them
00:38:57.200 more activist.
00:38:58.200 Is there
00:38:58.740 a proper place
00:39:00.220 for China
00:39:00.680 to be a little
00:39:01.660 bit worried
00:39:02.260 about outside
00:39:03.700 influences
00:39:04.220 that would
00:39:04.780 radicalize
00:39:05.660 Chinese Muslims?
00:39:06.320 Well, yeah,
00:39:08.120 of course
00:39:08.640 there is reason
00:39:09.360 to be concerned
00:39:10.100 but really
00:39:11.660 when we look
00:39:12.220 at radicalism
00:39:13.120 in both Ningxia
00:39:14.500 and in Xinjiang
00:39:17.180 because most
00:39:18.400 of it's in Xinjiang
00:39:19.120 it's really
00:39:20.060 because it's
00:39:20.680 a reaction
00:39:21.220 to what
00:39:21.960 the Chinese
00:39:22.480 government
00:39:22.820 has tried
00:39:23.260 to do
00:39:23.700 and in Xinjiang
00:39:24.680 you have
00:39:25.520 what really
00:39:26.080 constitutes
00:39:26.760 a crime
00:39:27.160 against humanity
00:39:27.960 about 10%
00:39:29.200 of the population
00:39:30.140 about a million
00:39:31.340 people
00:39:31.940 have been put
00:39:32.980 into internment
00:39:34.020 camps
00:39:34.400 which are called
00:39:35.040 re-education
00:39:35.760 centers
00:39:36.200 and they're
00:39:36.940 being put
00:39:37.420 there largely
00:39:38.180 because of
00:39:38.800 their religion
00:39:39.420 they're being
00:39:40.860 cut off
00:39:41.460 some people
00:39:42.100 have been
00:39:42.460 dying
00:39:42.820 in those
00:39:43.260 camps
00:39:43.640 and this
00:39:44.960 is one
00:39:45.560 of the most
00:39:45.920 horrific
00:39:46.340 human rights
00:39:47.060 abuses
00:39:47.460 in the world
00:39:48.020 today
00:39:48.480 fortunately
00:39:50.080 now people
00:39:50.920 are starting
00:39:51.360 to pay
00:39:51.680 attention
00:39:52.080 to it
00:39:52.680 Gordon
00:39:53.540 I was reading
00:39:54.020 in your article
00:39:54.740 about some
00:39:55.720 internment
00:39:57.040 camps
00:39:57.420 that you've
00:39:57.820 been suggesting
00:39:58.700 where these
00:39:59.540 Uyghur Muslims
00:40:00.100 are forced
00:40:00.980 positively
00:40:02.100 forced
00:40:02.620 to eat
00:40:03.120 pork
00:40:03.620 and things
00:40:04.420 like that
00:40:04.900 in violation
00:40:05.620 of their
00:40:06.400 religion
00:40:06.760 and that
00:40:07.420 does sound
00:40:08.040 like the
00:40:08.340 kind of
00:40:08.720 thing
00:40:08.940 that would
00:40:09.340 maybe stir
00:40:10.680 within the
00:40:11.780 heart
00:40:12.060 of a
00:40:12.720 calm
00:40:13.580 pacified
00:40:14.260 Muslim
00:40:14.640 community
00:40:15.120 a kind
00:40:15.940 of resistance
00:40:16.640 like a
00:40:17.080 martyrdom
00:40:17.700 it sounds
00:40:19.280 bizarre
00:40:19.840 and punitive
00:40:21.200 and inflammatory
00:40:23.020 does China
00:40:24.360 does China
00:40:24.380 not sense
00:40:25.080 that maybe
00:40:25.460 they're
00:40:25.760 provoking
00:40:26.500 the monster
00:40:28.380 that was
00:40:28.840 never there
00:40:29.340 they're creating
00:40:30.040 a problem
00:40:30.540 that wasn't
00:40:31.540 there
00:40:31.840 you know
00:40:33.540 you'd like
00:40:33.920 to think
00:40:34.280 that there
00:40:34.620 was self
00:40:35.060 awareness
00:40:35.400 on the part
00:40:36.060 of religion
00:40:36.940 officials
00:40:37.440 in Beijing
00:40:37.980 but they've
00:40:39.020 been pursuing
00:40:40.100 these policies
00:40:40.880 in Xinjiang
00:40:41.560 for quite
00:40:42.120 some time
00:40:42.760 and so
00:40:43.580 they have
00:40:44.200 been forcing
00:40:44.820 Muslims
00:40:45.240 to eat
00:40:45.720 pork
00:40:46.080 they've
00:40:46.620 been forcing
00:40:47.060 them to
00:40:47.480 break
00:40:47.800 Ramadan
00:40:48.280 traditions
00:40:48.920 they've
00:40:49.860 forced
00:40:50.180 shaving
00:40:50.680 of
00:40:50.980 beards
00:40:51.440 children
00:40:52.080 are not
00:40:52.580 allowed
00:40:52.920 religious
00:40:53.380 instruction
00:40:54.000 they've
00:40:54.740 destroyed
00:40:55.120 mosques
00:40:55.780 and now
00:40:56.300 they've
00:40:56.500 got these
00:40:56.880 internment
00:40:57.380 camps
00:40:57.740 which are
00:40:58.140 just
00:40:58.400 horrific
00:40:58.860 so at
00:40:59.960 this time
00:41:00.520 you'd have
00:41:01.340 to believe
00:41:02.360 that although
00:41:03.180 that they
00:41:03.780 understand
00:41:04.440 that they
00:41:04.880 might be
00:41:05.720 triggering
00:41:06.440 retaliation
00:41:07.500 they nonetheless
00:41:08.300 believe that
00:41:08.980 this is the
00:41:09.540 correct policy
00:41:10.360 and that's
00:41:11.400 why this
00:41:11.880 story about
00:41:12.980 the internment
00:41:13.620 camps is so
00:41:14.440 important
00:41:14.920 one last
00:41:16.220 question for
00:41:16.680 you
00:41:16.800 what are the
00:41:18.180 interesting
00:41:18.740 characteristics
00:41:19.360 of the
00:41:19.840 ISIS
00:41:20.200 terrorists
00:41:20.880 were how
00:41:21.920 international
00:41:22.720 they were
00:41:23.340 you had
00:41:23.740 people coming
00:41:24.980 from Germany
00:41:25.560 from France
00:41:26.100 even from
00:41:26.660 Canada
00:41:27.100 and I saw
00:41:28.200 that there
00:41:28.540 were Chechen
00:41:29.840 Muslims
00:41:31.020 who went
00:41:31.660 to join
00:41:33.320 ISIS
00:41:33.640 are you aware
00:41:34.900 of any
00:41:35.500 Chinese Muslims
00:41:37.080 that went
00:41:37.560 to join ISIS
00:41:38.320 well there's
00:41:40.280 some Uyghurs
00:41:41.000 who have gone
00:41:41.680 to the Middle
00:41:42.180 East I don't
00:41:42.760 know if they've
00:41:43.300 gone to ISIS
00:41:44.020 but there
00:41:45.060 have been a
00:41:45.640 few there
00:41:46.240 and Beijing
00:41:47.340 is obviously
00:41:48.020 worried about
00:41:48.700 them coming
00:41:49.280 back to
00:41:50.120 China
00:41:50.560 but if you
00:41:51.880 go back
00:41:52.640 three decades
00:41:53.780 or so
00:41:54.720 Xinjiang
00:41:56.060 and Ningxia
00:41:57.060 were completely
00:41:57.760 peaceful
00:41:58.240 and really
00:41:59.980 what we've
00:42:00.740 seen is
00:42:01.660 activism
00:42:02.320 and sometimes
00:42:03.060 radicalism
00:42:03.900 which has been
00:42:04.760 the result
00:42:05.380 of a horrific
00:42:06.280 repression
00:42:06.880 campaign
00:42:07.520 so this is
00:42:08.360 something that
00:42:08.820 Beijing has
00:42:09.440 caused itself
00:42:10.400 well it's
00:42:11.820 very interesting
00:42:12.560 and we are
00:42:13.180 always on the
00:42:14.000 alert of
00:42:14.720 Islamic Jihad
00:42:16.160 and we're
00:42:16.720 always cautious
00:42:17.900 about that
00:42:18.440 but your
00:42:19.500 report in
00:42:20.240 the Epoch Times
00:42:20.800 which I
00:42:21.080 very much
00:42:21.600 recommend
00:42:21.940 I recommend
00:42:22.540 the Epoch Times
00:42:23.260 as a read
00:42:24.380 all the time
00:42:24.800 it's a good
00:42:25.180 counterpoint
00:42:26.000 to the
00:42:26.320 mainstream
00:42:26.680 but your
00:42:27.380 piece here
00:42:27.820 it's called
00:42:28.100 China's
00:42:28.520 peaceful
00:42:28.800 Muslims
00:42:29.160 fight back
00:42:29.660 that was
00:42:30.440 my own
00:42:30.840 observation
00:42:31.440 and
00:42:31.820 I had
00:42:34.080 this
00:42:34.900 passing
00:42:35.660 fancy
00:42:36.120 when I
00:42:36.440 was there
00:42:36.680 if only
00:42:37.100 that were
00:42:37.480 the template
00:42:38.080 for Islam
00:42:39.080 around the
00:42:39.560 world
00:42:39.840 it would
00:42:40.340 be
00:42:40.480 the world
00:42:41.680 itself
00:42:42.080 would be
00:42:42.440 more
00:42:42.740 harmonious
00:42:43.360 last word
00:42:43.960 to you
00:42:44.240 Gordon
00:42:44.460 yes
00:42:45.860 well that's
00:42:46.480 certainly
00:42:46.800 true
00:42:47.200 I mean
00:42:47.620 you look
00:42:47.940 at the
00:42:48.180 way
00:42:48.440 they've
00:42:48.740 been
00:42:48.880 completely
00:42:49.300 assimilated
00:42:49.920 into
00:42:50.180 Chinese
00:42:50.580 society
00:42:51.180 and
00:42:52.120 the only
00:42:52.620 reason
00:42:52.920 why
00:42:53.140 there's
00:42:53.420 activism
00:42:53.860 is
00:42:54.180 because
00:42:54.500 the
00:42:55.000 government
00:42:55.280 has
00:42:55.600 been
00:42:55.860 taking
00:42:56.220 mosques
00:42:56.680 and
00:42:56.940 destroying
00:42:57.720 them
00:42:58.020 and so
00:42:59.100 really
00:42:59.480 this is
00:43:00.120 at the
00:43:01.080 end
00:43:01.260 of the
00:43:01.500 day
00:43:01.780 something
00:43:02.540 that
00:43:02.840 Beijing
00:43:03.160 has
00:43:03.380 triggered
00:43:03.640 on its
00:43:04.020 own
00:43:04.320 well
00:43:05.500 thank
00:43:05.720 you
00:43:05.820 for
00:43:05.940 this
00:43:06.120 update
00:43:06.400 a
00:43:06.660 point
00:43:07.100 of
00:43:07.260 view
00:43:07.400 I'm
00:43:07.640 sure
00:43:07.820 most
00:43:08.080 of
00:43:08.220 our
00:43:08.320 viewers
00:43:08.580 have
00:43:08.720 not
00:43:08.940 heard
00:43:13.360 you
00:43:13.460 so
00:43:13.580 much
00:43:13.780 Ezra
00:43:14.080 all
00:43:14.420 right
00:43:14.560 there
00:43:14.700 you
00:43:14.800 have
00:43:14.940 it
00:43:15.040 Gordon
00:43:15.240 Chang
00:43:15.520 is a
00:43:16.120 writer
00:43:16.280 with
00:43:16.440 the
00:43:16.560 Daily
00:43:16.740 Beast
00:43:17.040 and
00:43:17.200 an
00:43:17.320 author
00:43:17.560 of
00:43:17.760 the
00:43:17.860 book
00:43:18.040 The
00:43:18.500 Coming
00:43:18.840 Collapse
00:43:19.540 of
00:43:19.680 China
00:43:19.940 Stay
00:43:20.440 with us
00:43:20.940 more
00:43:21.580 ahead
00:43:21.800 on
00:43:21.920 The
00:43:22.040 Rebel
00:43:22.240 Hey
00:43:34.060 welcome
00:43:34.260 back
00:43:34.520 on
00:43:34.620 my
00:43:34.740 monologue
00:43:35.080 Friday
00:43:35.440 about
00:43:35.660 Maxime
00:43:36.040 Bernier
00:43:36.380 fighting
00:43:36.720 back
00:43:37.000 against
00:43:37.280 Rosemary
00:43:37.700 Barton
00:43:38.040 and
00:43:38.180 fake
00:43:38.380 news
00:43:38.600 from
00:43:38.760 the
00:43:38.880 CBC
00:43:39.220 Angela
00:43:39.900 writes
00:43:40.380 I
00:43:41.320 agree
00:43:41.560 with
00:43:41.780 you
00:43:41.920 insofar
00:43:42.360 as
00:43:42.580 sheer
00:43:42.800 is
00:43:42.960 concerned
00:43:43.400 I
00:43:43.700 have
00:43:43.860 emailed
00:43:44.120 him
00:43:44.340 suggesting
00:43:44.780 that
00:43:45.160 he
00:43:45.240 get
00:43:45.340 a
00:43:45.440 backbone
00:43:45.880 and
00:43:46.220 start
00:43:46.420 challenging
00:43:46.860 the
00:43:47.080 mainstream
00:43:47.540 media
00:43:47.920 on
00:43:48.120 their
00:43:48.260 biased
00:43:48.600 reporting
00:43:49.140 it's
00:43:50.980 hard
00:43:51.260 to
00:43:51.560 have
00:43:51.980 someone
00:43:52.280 change
00:43:52.580 their
00:43:52.720 personality
00:43:53.260 people
00:43:54.060 can
00:43:54.280 grow
00:43:54.520 and
00:43:54.660 improve
00:43:54.920 their
00:43:55.060 job
00:43:55.300 I
00:43:55.420 mean
00:43:55.500 I
00:43:55.600 have
00:43:55.760 to
00:43:55.880 say
00:43:56.140 Justin
00:43:57.320 Trudeau
00:43:57.620 when he
00:43:57.840 was
00:43:57.960 first
00:43:58.200 elected
00:43:58.520 as
00:43:58.740 MP
00:43:59.000 to
00:43:59.340 Justin
00:43:59.940 Trudeau
00:44:00.240 by the
00:44:00.520 time
00:44:00.700 he
00:44:00.800 was
00:44:00.940 done
00:44:01.120 his
00:44:01.300 first
00:44:01.640 election
00:44:02.640 campaign
00:44:03.120 he
00:44:03.320 improved
00:44:03.700 markedly
00:44:04.360 it
00:44:05.420 is
00:44:05.560 possible
00:44:05.900 to
00:44:06.140 improve
00:44:06.640 but
00:44:07.500 to
00:44:07.780 find
00:44:08.240 a
00:44:08.680 courage
00:44:09.080 to
00:44:09.320 take
00:44:09.680 on
00:44:09.880 the
00:44:10.060 media
00:44:10.400 it's
00:44:11.140 a
00:44:11.220 whole
00:44:11.400 new
00:44:11.600 level
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00:44:12.040 courage
00:44:12.300 it's
00:44:12.500 not
00:44:12.640 just
00:44:12.840 a
00:44:13.040 skill
00:44:13.480 can
00:44:13.800 you
00:44:13.900 do
00:44:14.060 it
00:44:14.200 well
00:44:14.460 it's
00:44:15.160 can
00:44:15.380 you
00:44:15.540 look
00:44:15.860 a
00:44:16.180 reporter
00:44:16.580 in
00:44:16.820 the
00:44:16.960 eyes
00:44:17.460 and
00:44:18.060 know
00:44:18.420 that
00:44:18.620 what
00:44:18.780 you're
00:44:18.940 about
00:44:19.140 to
00:44:19.360 say
00:44:19.700 will
00:44:20.180 hurt
00:44:20.440 their
00:44:20.640 feelings
00:44:21.120 will
00:44:21.360 offend
00:44:22.100 them
00:44:22.380 maybe
00:44:22.700 and
00:44:23.100 turn
00:44:23.340 them
00:44:23.500 against
00:44:23.820 you
00:44:24.040 that's
00:44:24.700 what
00:44:24.860 makes
00:44:25.140 it
00:44:25.300 tough
00:44:25.660 and
00:44:26.160 that's
00:44:26.520 what
00:44:26.620 I
00:44:26.720 don't
00:44:26.860 know
00:44:27.000 if
00:44:27.120 Alan
00:44:29.360 writes
00:44:29.880 Well it
00:44:41.760 reminds me
00:44:42.360 of
00:44:42.520 Preston
00:44:42.860 Manning
00:44:43.100 I worked
00:44:44.020 for Preston
00:44:44.480 Manning
00:44:44.700 as you
00:44:44.920 may know
00:44:45.160 for two
00:44:45.520 years
00:44:45.840 and
00:44:46.700 people
00:44:48.580 liked
00:44:49.000 the media
00:44:49.700 of course
00:44:50.580 they attacked
00:44:50.980 Preston
00:44:51.340 Manning
00:44:51.540 as a
00:44:51.780 racist
00:44:52.060 as a
00:44:52.380 bigot
00:44:52.580 that's
00:44:52.860 their
00:44:53.380 go-to
00:44:53.780 line
00:44:54.040 has been
00:44:54.460 for
00:44:54.720 decades
00:44:55.560 but they
00:44:57.500 never felt
00:44:57.940 threatened
00:44:58.340 by Preston
00:44:59.680 Manning
00:44:59.920 I
00:45:00.100 remember
00:45:00.520 when
00:45:01.320 Stockwell
00:45:01.840 Day
00:45:02.020 came
00:45:02.300 around
00:45:02.460 I mean
00:45:02.620 they hated
00:45:02.940 Preston
00:45:03.240 Manning
00:45:03.400 absolutely
00:45:03.800 but the
00:45:04.540 minute
00:45:04.680 Stockwell
00:45:05.240 Day
00:45:05.400 came
00:45:05.660 around
00:45:06.020 to
00:45:06.560 seek
00:45:07.080 the
00:45:07.340 leadership
00:45:07.860 of the
00:45:08.100 Canadian
00:45:08.320 Alliance
00:45:08.600 Party
00:45:08.900 the media
00:45:09.800 suddenly
00:45:10.260 fell in
00:45:10.760 love with
00:45:11.060 Preston
00:45:11.460 Manning
00:45:11.800 why's
00:45:12.380 that
00:45:12.740 well
00:45:13.620 because
00:45:13.860 they
00:45:14.060 saw
00:45:14.360 in
00:45:14.540 Stockwell
00:45:14.920 Day
00:45:15.060 someone
00:45:15.300 who
00:45:15.480 had
00:45:15.600 a
00:45:15.720 chance
00:45:16.060 of
00:45:16.280 breaking
00:45:17.020 through
00:45:17.340 he
00:45:17.540 spoke
00:45:17.860 better
00:45:18.140 French
00:45:18.500 he
00:45:18.660 was
00:45:18.840 more
00:45:19.040 media
00:45:19.380 savvy
00:45:19.800 he
00:45:20.320 was
00:45:20.500 younger
00:45:20.880 so
00:45:22.080 I
00:45:22.600 think
00:45:23.100 that
00:45:23.400 of course
00:45:24.540 the
00:45:24.760 media
00:45:25.060 despises
00:45:25.900 Andrew
00:45:26.300 Scheer
00:45:26.660 of course
00:45:27.040 he's
00:45:27.520 everything
00:45:27.840 they
00:45:28.080 hate
00:45:28.380 he's
00:45:28.780 conservative
00:45:29.500 he's
00:45:30.180 socially
00:45:30.580 conservative
00:45:30.940 he's
00:45:31.120 pro-life
00:45:31.600 he's
00:45:31.920 a family
00:45:32.380 man
00:45:32.740 he's
00:45:33.320 mild
00:45:33.580 mannered
00:45:34.080 he's
00:45:34.320 reasonable
00:45:34.900 of course
00:45:35.880 the media
00:45:36.380 hate him
00:45:36.940 but
00:45:38.300 they
00:45:38.640 fear
00:45:39.900 Maxime
00:45:40.900 Bernier
00:45:41.220 because
00:45:41.560 he might
00:45:42.000 actually
00:45:42.360 win
00:45:42.900 so
00:45:43.920 I
00:45:44.560 think
00:45:44.940 that
00:45:45.120 that's
00:45:45.400 why
00:45:45.580 the
00:45:45.800 media
00:45:46.040 hates
00:45:46.360 Bernier
00:45:46.880 they
00:45:47.380 fear
00:45:47.960 that
00:45:48.780 if
00:45:48.880 he
00:45:48.980 were
00:45:49.080 to
00:45:49.160 lead
00:45:49.280 the
00:45:49.440 party
00:45:49.640 he
00:45:49.760 could
00:45:49.880 actually
00:45:50.160 win
00:45:50.400 the
00:45:50.560 thing
00:45:50.820 John
00:45:52.420 writes
00:45:52.780 you
00:45:53.720 piqued
00:45:54.000 my
00:45:54.220 interest
00:45:54.540 about
00:45:54.780 a
00:45:54.920 rebel
00:45:55.080 charity
00:45:55.480 we
00:45:56.040 could
00:45:56.200 approach
00:45:56.460 the
00:45:56.600 next
00:45:56.760 election
00:45:57.080 with
00:45:57.280 third
00:45:57.440 party
00:45:57.680 status
00:45:58.000 with
00:45:58.160 our
00:45:58.280 own
00:45:58.440 commercials
00:45:58.880 denouncing
00:45:59.700 Trudeau
00:46:00.140 or other
00:46:00.600 third
00:46:00.840 parties
00:46:01.220 hey
00:46:01.900 I
00:46:02.580 like
00:46:03.040 your
00:46:03.320 thinking
00:46:04.080 you
00:46:04.900 are
00:46:05.080 exactly
00:46:05.580 right
00:46:06.120 I
00:46:06.680 mean
00:46:07.080 there
00:46:07.340 were
00:46:07.480 over
00:46:07.840 100
00:46:08.560 third
00:46:08.940 party
00:46:09.180 campaign
00:46:09.540 groups
00:46:09.820 in
00:46:09.960 the
00:46:10.040 last
00:46:10.240 election
00:46:10.640 all
00:46:11.620 but
00:46:11.760 one
00:46:11.940 of
00:46:12.020 them
00:46:12.140 for
00:46:12.500 Justin
00:46:12.880 Trudeau
00:46:13.200 wouldn't
00:46:13.440 it
00:46:13.540 be
00:46:13.680 fun
00:46:13.880 to
00:46:14.040 have
00:46:14.240 our
00:46:14.420 own
00:46:14.600 campaign
00:46:15.140 organization
00:46:16.200 registered
00:46:16.860 and
00:46:17.360 giving
00:46:17.760 tax
00:46:18.220 receipts
00:46:18.720 or
00:46:18.900 whatever
00:46:19.280 something
00:46:20.400 to
00:46:20.580 think
00:46:20.820 about
00:46:21.080 that's
00:46:21.440 for
00:46:21.580 sure
00:46:21.980 boy
00:46:22.320 I
00:46:22.460 like
00:46:22.640 the
00:46:22.780 way
00:46:22.900 you
00:46:23.040 think
00:46:23.360 already
00:46:24.840 well that
00:46:25.240 is our
00:46:25.600 show
00:46:25.900 for
00:46:26.200 today
00:46:26.560 on
00:46:26.840 behalf
00:46:27.100 of
00:46:27.260 all
00:46:27.340 of
00:46:27.420 us
00:46:27.520 here
00:46:27.660 at
00:46:27.800 Rebel
00:46:27.860 World
00:46:28.040 Headquarters
00:46:28.420 to you
00:46:28.640 at home
00:46:28.920 good night
00:46:29.540 and keep
00:46:30.600 heckling
00:46:31.020 politicians
00:46:31.700 bye
00:46:32.660 bye
00:46:46.200 bye